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Speaker 1: This is let's be clear with Shannon Dory unacceptable unacceptable.

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Speaker 1: But hi, everyone, did you hear the unacceptable? Do you

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Speaker 1: guys recognize that voice? Yeah, because even if I weren't

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Speaker 1: looking at this person, I would still recognize that voice.

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Speaker 1: But uh, you're listening to God, what's the name of

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Speaker 1: the show. Now, let's be clear with Shannon Dorty, Sirian

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Speaker 1: and I have Holly Marie Comb's back. I know you're

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Speaker 1: all very excited about that. If you don't recognize my voice,

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Speaker 1: you will recognize my far too loud. Wow, I try

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Speaker 1: to lean back. That's good because you know it's loud.

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Speaker 1: So Holly is here because we doesn't live here, how

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Speaker 1: dare you? Because you picked out her room here.

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Speaker 2: And guardians all the way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's uh, it's just prepared for her all

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Speaker 1: the time. When she's like okay flying in, it's like

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Speaker 1: a big panic moment for me. Where Why Because Claudia,

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Speaker 1: my housekeeper, who's like a family member, Like I heard,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, we have to make sure

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Speaker 1: it's like really clean.

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Speaker 2: I do believe I've lived with you since I was

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Speaker 2: twenty two.

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Speaker 1: But it's always been clean. Yes, I know, because Nobody

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Speaker 1: sleeps in that room. Nobody cares, I know, but I

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Speaker 1: don't want you sleeping on sheets that are you know,

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Speaker 1: have been like not changed.

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Speaker 2: What kind of thirties are you having here?

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Speaker 1: None? Nobody goes in that room. But you know, if

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Speaker 1: you don't wash your sheets for ten days, they get stale.

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Speaker 1: That's disgusting. Yeah, goodness, who knew? I didn't know? Anyway,

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Speaker 1: So I have you back on because I just want

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Speaker 1: to talk about that house of helliwell, okay, yours and

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Speaker 1: Brian and Drew's podcast, what about it?

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Speaker 2: It's really good. Thanks, it's really good. We just try

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Speaker 2: to have a good time. I mean, it's nothing studious.

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Speaker 1: You guys do have a good time, and I feel

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Speaker 1: like the conversations are always really interesting and you're learning something.

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Speaker 1: And you guys have been on break on the hiatus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there are reasons for such things.

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Speaker 1: So maybe we should get into those reasons. What are

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Speaker 1: the reasons, Hollie, You're the reason. I feel like I'm

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Speaker 1: the reason the soundtrack should start. Now, Shannon's always to

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Speaker 1: blame you guys. You're the reason. So truly, I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you decided to join us after I asked you a

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Speaker 1: year and a half ago. She takes a lot of courting. No,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know what a podcast was.

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Speaker 2: You didn't.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea. I thought it was basically like

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Speaker 1: I was clueless.

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Speaker 2: I have that text, or maybe it's an email that

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Speaker 2: says when there's a producer and there's money, and I

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Speaker 2: was like, wait, we're independent, we're broke, we have no

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Speaker 2: money to give you. And you were like, nah, bruh, nah,

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Speaker 2: But that's okay because you found a producer and you

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Speaker 2: found some money. You freak me out when you're like, no,

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Speaker 2: we should do this then, and we should do this now,

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to make it happen, And then you

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Speaker 2: do and it's really fucking creepy, I.

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Speaker 1: Know, but you love it because no I don't. Well, okay, yes,

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Speaker 1: because I did find the money. Yeah, we had this conversation.

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Speaker 1: We all got paid and I found iHeart who wanted

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Speaker 2: We have this conversation where I told you my husband said, well,

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Speaker 2: if Shannon is involved, it will be successful, and I

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Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa WHOA I paid Mike to say that I've

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Speaker 1: your venvo? How dare you say this? So he does

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Speaker 1: know and you do know, And it's common knowledge about

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Speaker 1: me that I'm not nearly as ambitious as I should be.

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Speaker 1: And I'm very happy to just retire on an island

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Speaker 1: But retirement only is possible when when you have a

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Speaker 1: So for me, I mean, I'm not quite sure I'm

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Speaker 2: As you should.

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Speaker 1: But then also like when I pass away, my mom's

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Speaker 2: For you projects are motivating and appealing, whereas I'd rather

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Speaker 2: It's hard for me to be on camera every day. Again,

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Speaker 2: it's hard for me to hear my own voice. It's

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Speaker 2: just it's not who I am anymore. Like my mom

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Speaker 2: keeps putting my mom just moved in with me, if

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Speaker 2: people don't know by now, but my mom keeps putting

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Speaker 2: just to like remind you. I don't know, like what

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's weird to watch yourself do and say

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Speaker 2: super critical and people do not like when I'm critical

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Speaker 2: when I was watching it last night. For this thing

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Speaker 1: Your being here right right besides you just you know,

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did sometimes a break from my retirement, but

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Speaker 1: I think you're incredibly Piper is very sensitive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Piper was not I hate to talk about

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Speaker 2: her voice exactly. And there's still some things I would change,

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Speaker 1: And the more you evolve and the more you grow,

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Speaker 2: You can see it. That doesn't mean everybody else sees it.

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Speaker 1: Right, And it doesn't mean that people should be at

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Speaker 1: Have you found though, that like the older you got,

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Speaker 2: No, I feel like I'm always kind of on that

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Speaker 2: I haven't met a performance I'm satisfied with yet.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, this is an episode about the fact that House

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Speaker 1: of Hellowell is coming back. It is it is coming

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Speaker 1: back to iHeart, so more people will have access to it.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to join a thing, you don't have

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Speaker 1: to pay extra money, you don't have any of that.

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Speaker 1: Like if we do an episode about you know, bloopers, outtakes, whatever,

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Speaker 1: they're there for everybody to say yes, and I am joining,

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Speaker 1: season one episode one.

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Speaker 2: Well, people rewatch it a lot, so we're going to

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Speaker 2: rewatch the rewatch reboot take two hashtag take two.

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Speaker 2: a heart project it was for us. So there's that.

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Speaker 2: And I think your memories and your interpretation of things,

433
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 2: you know, it is much more artistic than mine. Also,

434
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 2: like I'm just the one they're bleeding emotions. But you

435
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: were very much invested in what the show looked like. Yeah,

436
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: and the lighting and obviously then you directed, so it's

437
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: a different perspective.

438
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Speaker 1: I wanted it to have a very specific look, and

439
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, the presentation was a lot more represented as dark. Yeah,

440
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 1: it was dark, and the show overall was darker. It

441
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: was a much more serious, much more dramatic, like grounded show.

442
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: And I loved that because you know, coming from drama,

443
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: you coming from drama, so yeah, I there were certain

444
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 1: episodes that were like too bright or to this or

445
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: to that. The camera didn't move properly. Somebody didn't want

446
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 1: to you steady cam, and that would always upset me

447
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: because I was like, no, no, no, we can do better.

448
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: We can push. Let's push, let's push, like stop putting

449
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: the camera on sticks and have it being static, like

450
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: move in like do something like you guys have zooms,

451
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: you have this, you have that, Like, let's get going.

452
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: Let's let's make it different and original and look really

453
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Speaker 1: good while you were crying. Yeah, but I was also.

454
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 2: Really uncomfortable with being funny. I didn't think I was funny.

455
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: You were very funny. I didn't. I still don't think

456
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 2: I'm funny and so and I think you kind of

457
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,479
Speaker 2: came from the same sort of background where you know,

458
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: we're super comfortable doing the dramatic, the heavy dramatic stuff,

459
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 2: but being funny, being light and making fun of yourself

460
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: was almost difficult, and I think harshly, because we knew

461
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: each other before, it was easier to be light and

462
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: to be like feel like you're like in a safe space.

463
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 2: So if you make fun of yourself or you do

464
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 2: something goofy that it didn't feel so much so much

465
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 2: like acting. It was like just being like normal girls,

466
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: which I think is a very big appeal to the

467
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: show is that these are like girls hanging out together. Yeah,

468
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: and this is what girls do. And I don't think

469
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 2: if it wasn't you, if it wasn't me, that we

470
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 2: would have been able to do that.

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00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: I agree. I think that we, you know, we're able

472
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: to bring that out in each other because we'd been

473
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: through so much prior that we had you know, we

474
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: obviously had that connection. We were besties, we were all

475
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: of that, so we were able to kind of you know,

476
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: wink wink, nudge nudge each other. I also think because

477
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: Alyssa came from comedy, so she was instantly the more

478
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: like lighter one that looks for those like joke moments

479
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: and to make something light, that she allowed us to

480
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: be lighter as well. I mean I always still dug

481
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: into like the drama you did. I freakin loved it

482
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: so much. I was like anytime there was a script

483
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: where it was Prue was crying and I was like,

484
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: yay when score. I don't know who wants to go

485
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: to set and like cry for fourteen hours. But I did.

486
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: I loved it. But you know what's funny is, like

487
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: I watched rewatching now you were actually very funny and

488
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: how your character starts and you're you know, the tilt

489
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: of your head, the eyebrow twitch that you have, like

490
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: all of it is so hyper. Yeah, it's just so

491
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: like it's endearing. You're very endearing on the show. Not

492
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: in real life, but no, in real life, you're horrible,

493
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: pain in the pain in the ass.

494
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: True story.

495
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: So my hope, okay, is that Hoops and Dreams people

496
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: are happy that I joined. I'm sure they were happy

497
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: that it moved to iHeart.

498
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 2: I know you told me not to tell people, but

499
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: I have told a few people and they were really

500
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 2: happy with them.

501
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: Really. Yeah, you chose the non hater stuff. And I

502
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: know that I'm thrilled to be a part of it.

503
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: I know that, you know, watching it for the first

504
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 1: time has been really interesting for me, and I don't know,

505
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: it's cool, like we're getting to work together again in

506
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: a different capacity. Yeah, and I kind of direct me though, Yes,

507
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm for sure a director and you forever

508
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: think I can do better, which sometimes I cannot. No,

509
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: whenever I was directing and I said you could do better.

510
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: You always did better every single time. Every time you

511
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: always did better, You dug deeper and figured out. I

512
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: don't know it was me pushing you or humiliating you sometimes,

513
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: but and you're the only one that I would have

514
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: done that with. I would never have directed anybody else

515
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: like that. But because we knew each other for so long,

516
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: I felt like I just knew what you were capable of.

517
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: Well, you have seen the depths of my despair, yes,

518
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: very much so. Yes, when it comes to abusive husbands,

519
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: when it comes to very very gritty, awful life stuff,

520
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: you have seen that.

521
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: And I wanted you to dig there, to go to

522
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: the place that nobody wants to go to at all.

523
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: It's like buried inside with a little lock. But I

524
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: wanted you to unlock it and dig for it so

525
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: that it could also be used in your performance. And

526
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: whenever you did that, it was the performance that I

527
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: was blown away by. All Right, that's all, folks, that's all, folks,

528
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: So thanks for joining. Let's be Clara Shannan Doherty and

529
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: Holly Maray Combs looking forward. I am to seeing your

530
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: guys action to the House of Hallowell Holly, thanks for

531
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: being here with me. Sure you can now eat pizza.

532
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna eat pizza now and probably watch some Charmed at.

533
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: Least two episodes.

534
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: At least two episodes. All right home or we love

535
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Speaker 1: you guys, See you soon.

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Speaker 2: Blessed be