WEBVTT - SYMHC Classics: COINTELPRO 1

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<v Speaker 1>Hello and Happy Saturday. I'm Tracy V. Wilson and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Holly Frye. Our next two Saturday Classics are a listener

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<v Speaker 1>request from a friend who is also a history teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>who noticed that she's been seeing a lot of references

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<v Speaker 1>to co Intel Pro on social media lately. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>often run two partners as Saturday Classics, but our episodes

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<v Speaker 1>on co Intel Pro are not one continuous narrative. Part

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<v Speaker 1>ones today we will talk about some background on the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI and the origins of its counterintelligence programs, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as one specific operation, which was called co Intel Pro

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<v Speaker 1>White Hate. Then next week, Part two will cover two

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<v Speaker 1>other co Intel pros and how the public learned about

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<v Speaker 1>these programs. These episodes are also an example of something

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<v Speaker 1>we said in this week's Behind the Scenes about not

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<v Speaker 1>needing to go back very far in history to find

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<v Speaker 1>precedence and things that resonate with things that are happening now.

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<v Speaker 1>We recorded our episodes on co Intel Pro in July

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty, during international protests over the murder of

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<v Speaker 1>George Floyd by police officer Derek Chauvin. This originally came

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<v Speaker 1>out July twentieth, twenty twenty Welcome to Stuff You Missed

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<v Speaker 1>in History Class, a production of iHeartRadio. Hello, and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast. I'm Tracy B. Wilson and I'm Holly Frye.

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<v Speaker 1>Something that has come up several times on our show

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<v Speaker 1>is FBI surveillance of people who were associated with the

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<v Speaker 1>civil rights movement in the United States. Most recently, we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the bureau creating this file on James Baldwin

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<v Speaker 1>that was more than seventeen hundred pages long, and in

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<v Speaker 1>earlier episodes we've talked about things like the FBI using

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<v Speaker 1>wiretaps to spy on Byerd Rustin and Martin Luther King Junior.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of this surveillance was connected to a series

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<v Speaker 1>of counterintelligence programs, or co intel pros that primarily targeted

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<v Speaker 1>left wing organizations and people in the US from nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six until nineteen seventy one. The FBI framed this

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<v Speaker 1>as work that was necessary to prevent violence and protect

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<v Speaker 1>national security, but a whole lot of the people and

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<v Speaker 1>organizations that they targeted were not violent and were not

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<v Speaker 1>threatening national security. Mostly they were just threatening the status quo,

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<v Speaker 1>and the FBI pursued the one co intel pro that

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<v Speaker 1>really really was focused on violent organizations with a totally

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<v Speaker 1>different end in mind than what it pursued with the

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<v Speaker 1>other operations. This is one of those topics that includes

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of history that is just a complicated tangle,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to tackle it in two parts. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about the history of the FBI, especially as

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<v Speaker 1>it related to communism and perceived subversive threats, because all

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<v Speaker 1>that fed directly into co Intel Pro. We're also going

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<v Speaker 1>to give an o review of the types of tactics

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<v Speaker 1>that the FBI used across these various programs, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about the one co intel pro that

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of an outlier in all of this, which

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<v Speaker 1>was cointel Pro White Hate. Next time, we will get

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<v Speaker 1>into some of the specifics of the co intel pros

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<v Speaker 1>that targeted black liberation organizations and the new Left, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as how these programs were finally exposed to the public.

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<v Speaker 1>The investigation team that would become the US Federal Bureau

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<v Speaker 1>of Investigation was established in nineteen oh eight, and at

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<v Speaker 1>first this was a small group of newly hired investigators

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<v Speaker 1>who worked for the Department of Justice under the Office

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<v Speaker 1>of the Chief Examiner. Before this point when the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice needed investigators, it had either hired private investigators

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<v Speaker 1>or borrowed investigators from other departments. In nineteen oh nine,

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<v Speaker 1>the Office of the Chief Examiner was renamed the Bureau

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<v Speaker 1>of Investigation. The Bureau's work involved enforcing federal law and

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<v Speaker 1>helping to protect the nation from threats. In nineteen seven,

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<v Speaker 1>just after the US entered World War One, Congress passed

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<v Speaker 1>the Espionage Act, or an Act to punish acts of

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<v Speaker 1>interference with Foreign relations, the neutrality of the foreign commerce

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States, to punish espionage and better to

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<v Speaker 1>enforce the criminal laws of the United States, and for

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<v Speaker 1>other purposes. The Bureau of Investigation had become the government's

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<v Speaker 1>largest investigative agency, and it was tasked with enforcing the

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<v Speaker 1>Espionage Act. The Bureau of Investigation also had an assortment

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<v Speaker 1>of other duties, including guarding the US border with Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>during the Mexican Revolution. The same year that the Espionage

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<v Speaker 1>Act was passed, j Edgar Hoover joined the Department of Justice.

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<v Speaker 1>The following year, Congress passed the Sedition Act, which expanded

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<v Speaker 1>the Espionage Act to focus on anti war activists and socialists.

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<v Speaker 1>The Sedition Act made it a federal crime to quote, willfully,

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<v Speaker 1>utter print, write, or publish any disloyal, profane, scurreless, or

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<v Speaker 1>abusive life language about the form of the government of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. It also outlawed urging, inciting, or advocating

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<v Speaker 1>any curtailment or reduction in the production of war material. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen nineteen, US Attorney General A. Mischel Palmer's home

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<v Speaker 1>was bombed. This was part of a series of male

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<v Speaker 1>bombings carried out that year, with seven other bombings happening

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<v Speaker 1>on that same night. We have a two part episode

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<v Speaker 1>on the bombings and the massive series of raids and

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<v Speaker 1>deportations that followed, and that two parter originally came out

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty sixteen. J Edgar Hoover led a team to

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<v Speaker 1>investigate these bombings, and the espionage and sedition acts were

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of it. The raids, incarcerations, and deportations

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<v Speaker 1>that followed became known as the Palmer Raids and they

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<v Speaker 1>were part of the first Red Scare, which was a

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<v Speaker 1>widespread fear of Bolshevists, anarchists, socialists, and immigrants as a

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<v Speaker 1>threat to American life and national security. By nineteen twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General Arl Palmer's handling of these investigations had come

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<v Speaker 1>under intense scrutiny from both within and outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>US government. On May twenty eighth of that year, a

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<v Speaker 1>team of twelve lawyers issued a report on the raids

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<v Speaker 1>Mister port detailed cruel and unusual punishments, arrests without warrant,

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<v Speaker 1>unreasonable searches and seizures compelling persons to witness against themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>propaganda by the Department of Justice, and provocative agents, which

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<v Speaker 1>were basically operatives who entrapped people. Palmer's reputation suffered as

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<v Speaker 1>a result of all this, and he returned to private

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<v Speaker 1>practice after failing to win the Democratic Party's presidential nomination.

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<v Speaker 1>William J. Flynn was director of the Bureau of Investigation

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and soon he was replaced as well.

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<v Speaker 1>The Espionage and Sedition Acts were repealed in nineteen twenty

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<v Speaker 1>and nineteen twenty one, but Hoover's reputation wasn't really tarnished

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<v Speaker 1>by his involvement in all this. Soon he was being

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<v Speaker 1>groomed to take over the Bureau. Jay Edgar Hoover became

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<v Speaker 1>the Bureau of Investigations director in nineteen twenty four, and

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<v Speaker 1>the bureau was renamed the Federal Bureau of Investigation in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirty five. Of course, there is a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>history between when Hoover joined the Department of Justice and

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<v Speaker 1>when the FBI started its co intel pros. Hoover was

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<v Speaker 1>involved in modernizing and standardizing the FBI, and the bureau

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<v Speaker 1>itself was involved in investigating organized crime during Prohibition. During

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<v Speaker 1>World War II, the FBI also maintained lists of Japanese, German,

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<v Speaker 1>and Italian nationals believed to be a threat to domestic

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<v Speaker 1>security and kept those people under surveillance. Then, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese immigrants and their American born descendants were incarcerated under

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<v Speaker 1>Executive Order ninety sixty six. That is also covered in

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<v Speaker 1>a previous two parter of the podcast. The Central Intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>Agency was founded in nineteen forty seven to focus on

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<v Speaker 1>foreign intelligence. That left the FBI to focus on domestic

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence and on investigationading federal crimes. This creation of the

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<v Speaker 1>CIA happened under the National Security Act of nineteen forty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>and that act also included this definition of counterintelligence quote

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<v Speaker 1>information gathered and activities conducted to protect against espionage, other

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence activities, sabotage, or assassinations conducted by or on behalf

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<v Speaker 1>of foreign governments or elements thereof foreign organizations or foreign persons,

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<v Speaker 1>or international terrorist activities. A big part of this same

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<v Speaker 1>time span was the fight against communism. Following a precedent

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<v Speaker 1>that had been set by the Palmer Raids, the First

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<v Speaker 1>Red Scare, and the Espionage and Sedition Acts, in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty Congress passed the Alien Registration Act, also known as

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<v Speaker 1>the Smith Act. In this act included clauses that made

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<v Speaker 1>it illegal for any citizen or resident of the US

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<v Speaker 1>to quote, advocate, a bet, advise, or teach the duty, necessity, desirability,

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<v Speaker 1>or propriety of overthrowing, or destroying any government in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States by force or violence. Just as the Espionage

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<v Speaker 1>and Sedition Acts had been used to target political dissenters

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<v Speaker 1>and immigrants, the Smith Act became a primary tool for

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<v Speaker 1>prosecuting communists. In nineteen forty eight, eleven leaders of the

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<v Speaker 1>Communist Party USA were tried and convicted under the Smith Act.

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<v Speaker 1>They hadn't been directly advocating for the overthrow of the

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<v Speaker 1>US government, but they had been teaching from works by

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<v Speaker 1>Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin that described the revolutionary overthrow

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<v Speaker 1>of governments as necessary. The Supreme Court upheld these convictions

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<v Speaker 1>in Dennis versus the United States in nineteen fifty one,

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<v Speaker 1>and this Court decision moved the country away from an

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<v Speaker 1>earlier standard that required evidence of a clear and present

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<v Speaker 1>danger in order to justify the government placing limits on

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<v Speaker 1>free speech. The focus on communism escalated during the Cold War.

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<v Speaker 1>W OR two had left the US and the USSR

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<v Speaker 1>as the two remaining superpowers, and at first the US

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<v Speaker 1>was the only one with nuclear weapons, but the Soviet

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<v Speaker 1>Union detonated its first to nuclear device in nineteen forty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>and soon it became clear that spies had been at

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<v Speaker 1>work within the US nuclear program. This sparked an increasing

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<v Speaker 1>fixation on the idea that Soviet agents were infiltrating the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, including through the US Communist Party. There was

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<v Speaker 1>also a more general fear of Communist infiltration, regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>whether a particular person or organization had ties back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Soviet Union. The House on American Activities Committee had

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<v Speaker 1>been established in nineteen thirty eight to investigate suspected disloyalty,

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<v Speaker 1>including ties to communism. During the Cold War, the committee's

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<v Speaker 1>activities became notorious under the direction of Senator Joseph McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 1>This was all part of the Second Red Scare, which

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<v Speaker 1>was another national panic, this time focused on the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of Communist infiltration. This panic grew out of the tensions

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<v Speaker 1>between the US and the USSR, and it was further

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<v Speaker 1>inflamed by other events like the Chinese Communist Revolution which

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<v Speaker 1>started in nineteen forty nine and the Korean War which

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<v Speaker 1>started in nineteen fifty. To be clear, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>people targeted by the House and American Activities Committee really

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<v Speaker 1>were communists or otherwise had ties to the Communist Party,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were some Communists who really did have ties

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Soviet Union and its leadership, even to

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<v Speaker 1>the point of spying on the US or expressing overt

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<v Speaker 1>loyalty to the Soviet Union and its leadership. But the

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<v Speaker 1>overall paranoia was disproportionate to the actual level of threat

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<v Speaker 1>or the number of Communists who had ties to the USSR.

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<v Speaker 1>That also went way beyond communism and started targeting more

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<v Speaker 1>general political activity and dissent. The Communist Party had advocated

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<v Speaker 1>for things like labor rights, civil rights, and women's rights,

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<v Speaker 1>and that made it really ease to brand anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>fought for these same causes as a communist, as McCarthy, Hoover,

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<v Speaker 1>and other public figures stoked existing fear and paranoia. The

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<v Speaker 1>government and private organizations tried to purge themselves of anyone

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<v Speaker 1>deemed to be disloyal or a security threat for any reason,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, anyone who might be susceptible to blackmail, and

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<v Speaker 1>the national climate was one of suspicion, repression, and fear.

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<v Speaker 1>By early nineteen fifty four, McCarthy's support was starting to

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<v Speaker 1>wane because of his aggressive tactics with the Committee. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember now if we mentioned this already, but there

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<v Speaker 1>are also is yet another two parter on this back

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<v Speaker 1>in the archive. After he accused several Army officers of

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<v Speaker 1>having Communist ties, his own behavior was investigated, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate voted to condemn his conduct on December second of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty four. Although the House on American Activities Committee

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<v Speaker 1>still existed, its prominence and its reputation declined through the

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<v Speaker 1>late nineteen fifties and sixties. In a lot of ways,

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI's co intel pros picked up where the House

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<v Speaker 1>on American Activities Committee left off, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk more about that after we paused for a sponsor break.

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<v Speaker 1>The FBI and the House on American Activities Committee were

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<v Speaker 1>actively working together during the McCarthy era, but the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really publicize what it was doing or try to

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<v Speaker 1>promote the overall idea that communists had infiltrated a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of American institutions, particularly Hollywood. It left that to the Committee,

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<v Speaker 1>whose activities were publicly known and reported in the press.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the papers that I read while researching all

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<v Speaker 1>of this described the FBI during this time as laundering

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<v Speaker 1>its intelligence and counterintelligence activities through the House on American

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<v Speaker 1>Activities Committee. So when the House and American Activities Committee

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<v Speaker 1>came under scrutiny in nineteen fifty four or its own

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<v Speaker 1>activities declined, but the FBI's related work did not. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Edgar Hoover drew on the Communist Control Act of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty four or quote, an act to outlaw the

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<v Speaker 1>Communist Party, to prohibit members of communist organizations from serving

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<v Speaker 1>in certain representative capacities, and for other purposes nice and

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<v Speaker 1>specific there this Act banned the Communist Party of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, framing it not as a legitimate political party.

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<v Speaker 1>But as a conspiracy to overthrow the government. This law

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<v Speaker 1>came out of this same ongoing fear and suspicion of communism,

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<v Speaker 1>and it also connected specifically to the labor movement. There

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<v Speaker 1>was some overlap between the Communist Party and union organizers,

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<v Speaker 1>and the act specifically banned members of the Communist Party

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<v Speaker 1>from holding office and labor organizations. This was purportedly to

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<v Speaker 1>protect unsuspecting workers from Communist subversion, but really it granted

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<v Speaker 1>the government a lot of of leeway to investigate labor

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<v Speaker 1>organizations and to invalidate their collective bargaining agreements if they

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<v Speaker 1>were determined to be communists infiltrated. Hoover interpreted the Communist

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<v Speaker 1>Control Act as giving the FBI brought authority to investigate

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<v Speaker 1>and proactively disrupt communist threats in the US, and when

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<v Speaker 1>the Bureau started these counterintelligence programs, at first the focus

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<v Speaker 1>was on communism. The first formal co intel pro built

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<v Speaker 1>on ongoing counterintelligence efforts that targeted communists. It was called

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<v Speaker 1>co Intel pro Communist Party USA or CPUSA, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was launched in nineteen fifty six. This formal co Intel

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<v Speaker 1>pro grew out of a series of field conferences that

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<v Speaker 1>were held that year as suspected communists had been brought

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<v Speaker 1>to trial under the Smith Act. The FBI's informants from

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<v Speaker 1>within the Communist Party had been exposed when they were

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<v Speaker 1>brought in to testify in court. These field conference were

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<v Speaker 1>held in part to figure out how the Bureau could

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<v Speaker 1>recruit new informants. A counterintelligence program was recommended as a

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<v Speaker 1>way to keep targeting communists while recruiting new informants. Shortly

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<v Speaker 1>after the FBI established cointel pro Communist Party USA. The

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<v Speaker 1>US Supreme Court partially reversed its earlier decision in Dennis

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<v Speaker 1>versus the United States. This time the decision was in

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<v Speaker 1>Yates v. United States. The Supreme Court, under Chief Justice

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<v Speaker 1>Earl Warren, ruled that radical reactionary speech was protected under

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<v Speaker 1>the First Amendment. People could talk about revolution and overthrowing

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<v Speaker 1>the government in the abstract, and that was protected speech

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<v Speaker 1>unless it posed a clear and present danger. This overturned

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<v Speaker 1>the convictions of fourteen people who had been charged with

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<v Speaker 1>violating the Smith Act. On the same day, the Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court also issued to other decisions in cases involving communism

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<v Speaker 1>and members of the Communist Party, and both cases protected

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<v Speaker 1>their rights to things like price to see and due process.

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<v Speaker 1>These Supreme Court decisions were the first of a series

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<v Speaker 1>that overturned or narrowed the focus of laws that had

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<v Speaker 1>been providing the foundation for the FBI's activities against suspected communists.

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<v Speaker 1>The FBI argued that these court rulings left them with

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<v Speaker 1>no other choice but to fight communism through covert counterintelligence,

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<v Speaker 1>so by the time the cointel pros were uncovered and investigated,

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<v Speaker 1>more than half of all the proposed operations had been

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<v Speaker 1>aimed at the Communist Party USA. The FBI carried out

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand, three hundred eighty eight separate documented efforts against

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<v Speaker 1>the Communist Party, whose membership went from twenty two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>in the early nineteen fifties to three thousand by nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty seven. But the focus expanded out from communism. Co

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<v Speaker 1>intel pro CPUSA targeted communists and suspected communists, and then

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<v Speaker 1>organizations that had Communists among their members, and then organizations

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<v Speaker 1>that were made be tangentially connected to suspected communists, and

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<v Speaker 1>then organizations whose purpose and goals had some common themes

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<v Speaker 1>with the Communist Party even if there were no Communists involved,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the definition of communism expanded to include pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much anything that the Bureau considered to be subversive. Co

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<v Speaker 1>Intel pro Cposa also included counterintelligence operations against civil rights activists,

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<v Speaker 1>initially because of known or suspected ties to communism. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>Stanley David Levison was a friend and advisor to Martin

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<v Speaker 1>Luther King Junior, and he had also been one of

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<v Speaker 1>the major financiers of the Communist Party USA. But this

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<v Speaker 1>targeting of civil rights activists was not just about actual

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<v Speaker 1>connections to communism. It was also because the Bureau saw

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<v Speaker 1>civil rights work in the US in general as a

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<v Speaker 1>subversive threat. So as cointel pro Cposa expanded, the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>put intense efforts into discrediting and disrupting civil rights organizations.

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<v Speaker 1>The FBI repeatedly broke into civil rights organization's offices to

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<v Speaker 1>steal documents, and got the IRS to start spurious audits

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<v Speaker 1>of civil rights leaders. In nineteen sixty four, the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>sent an anonymous letter to Martin Luther King Junior, supposedly

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<v Speaker 1>written by an anonymous black person, calling him quote a

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<v Speaker 1>colossal fraud and an evil, vicious one at that This

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<v Speaker 1>letter was accompanied by an audio recording purportedly documenting evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of King's extramarital affairs. It ended by saying that there

0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.200
<v Speaker 1>was quote only one thing left for you to do.

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<v Speaker 1>The implication was that King should take his own life,

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<v Speaker 1>and it said he had thirty four days to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>that deadline being the day he was due to accept

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<v Speaker 1>the Nobel Peace Prize. So those are just examples of

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<v Speaker 1>the targeting of civil rights groups. And as the focus

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<v Speaker 1>of co intel pro CPUSA expanded, the Bureau also started

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<v Speaker 1>establishing other separate counterintelligence programs. When a Senate committee investigated

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<v Speaker 1>the US government's intelligence operations starting in nineteen seventy five,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about that in Part two. They

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<v Speaker 1>found five specific named FBI co intel pros, including co

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<v Speaker 1>intel pro Communist Party USA. The next co intel pro

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<v Speaker 1>Socialist Workers Party started in nineteen sixty one. This one

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<v Speaker 1>was short lived. There's a whole bunch of freedom of

0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:30.400
<v Speaker 1>information acts stuff on the FBI website, and this one

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<v Speaker 1>only has like three pages or three lengths of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to go through, like the other ones have sometimes twenty

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty and multiple pages of links to go through.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're not covering that one in as much detail.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the things that the Bureau routinely did

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<v Speaker 1>was to target Socialist Workers Party members who were running

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<v Speaker 1>for public office to undermine their political campaigns. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty four, the bureau launched co Intel pro White Hate,

0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:00.199
<v Speaker 1>co Intel pro Black Nationalist Slash Hate groups started in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty seven, and co Intel pro New Left started

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty eight. Other counterintelligence programs were also unearthed

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<v Speaker 1>later on, with targets that included the American Indian Movement

0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:17.880
<v Speaker 1>and Puerto Rican independence activists. Ostensibly, the goals of all

0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:21.520
<v Speaker 1>these counterintelligence programs were to protect national security and to

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<v Speaker 1>prevent violence, and to do that the FBI would quote expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit,

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<v Speaker 1>or otherwise neutralize its targets. The one exception was co

0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:35.879
<v Speaker 1>Intel pro White Hate, and with that the FBI was

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<v Speaker 1>focused on curbing white nationalist violence rather than neutralizing the

0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:44.600
<v Speaker 1>targeted groups altogether, which was more the focus and the

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<v Speaker 1>other coin cel pros we're going to get to more

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<v Speaker 1>about that in a bit. At the same time, even

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<v Speaker 1>though the FBI was purportedly preventing violence, some of these

0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:59.200
<v Speaker 1>operations incited violence. For example, the FBI tried to start

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<v Speaker 1>or escalate violent disputes between the black Panthers and street

0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:07.000
<v Speaker 1>gangs operating in the same areas. As another example, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not clear whether the FBI played a direct part in

0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:14.199
<v Speaker 1>the assassination of Malcolm X, but the Bureau definitely stoked

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<v Speaker 1>the divisions and disputes within the Nation of Islam that

0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:21.719
<v Speaker 1>led to his assassination. Another Bureau effort that was unearthed

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<v Speaker 1>later was Operation Hoodwink, which was an effort to quote

0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:30.479
<v Speaker 1>evoke a dispute between CPUSA and Lekosa Nostra, in other words,

0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:33.040
<v Speaker 1>to try to start a war between the Communist Party

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<v Speaker 1>and the Sicilian mafia. And beyond these ideas of national

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<v Speaker 1>security and violence prevention, these programs also worked to maintain

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<v Speaker 1>the existing social and political order in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>These co intail pros, many of them targeted organizations that

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<v Speaker 1>were not violent and did not threaten national security, but

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<v Speaker 1>they did advocate for changes big and small in how

0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the country operated or treated its residents and citizens, especially

0:22:59.840 --> 0:23:03.040
<v Speaker 1>with and people of color. Although there was some variation

0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:06.000
<v Speaker 1>from one to another, which we will get into, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bureau tended to use similar tactics all across all of

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<v Speaker 1>these various counterintelligence programs. Most of these tactics came from

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<v Speaker 1>counterintelligence works that had been carried out in foreign countries

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:21.640
<v Speaker 1>during wartime, with outcomes that the FBI considered to be successful.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, the United States had honed these techniques

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:29.040
<v Speaker 1>against its enemies during wartime, and then the FBI started

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<v Speaker 1>using them in the US against its own citizens. To

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<v Speaker 1>quote the Church Committee report, which followed a Senate investigation

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<v Speaker 1>into US intelligence activities. Quote, the techniques were adopted wholesale

0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:45.640
<v Speaker 1>from wartime counter intelligence and ranged from the trivial mailing

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<v Speaker 1>reprints of reader's digest articles to college administrators to the

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<v Speaker 1>degrading sending anonymous poison pen letters intending to break up marriages,

0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:59.800
<v Speaker 1>and the dangerous encouraging gang warfare and falsely labeling members

0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:04.160
<v Speaker 1>of violent groups as police informers. So the bureau relied

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:08.440
<v Speaker 1>on informants, surveillance, and other investigative tools to get information

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:13.639
<v Speaker 1>about organizations, their activities, and their members. This included everything

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<v Speaker 1>from conducting interviews, to opening and photocopying people's mail, to

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<v Speaker 1>breaking into organization's offices to tap phones and copy documents.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it used that information to create division, distrust, and dissent.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the interviews themselves did that work, interviewing members of

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<v Speaker 1>an organization to make others suspect they were informants, or

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<v Speaker 1>conducting multiple simultaneous interviews to make people think that their

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<v Speaker 1>organization had been infiltrated. One specific tactic used to breed

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 1>distrust was called snitch jacketing, also known as bad jacketing,

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 1>which involved using things like planted evidence and faked communications

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 1>to make it seem like a loyal member of an

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:59.639
<v Speaker 1>organization was really an FBI informant. In some cases, FBI

0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:03.359
<v Speaker 1>informed planted the suspicion that loyal members were informants to

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<v Speaker 1>shift the focus off of themselves, and the FBI used

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<v Speaker 1>this tactic within organizations that had a reputation for violence,

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 1>as mentioned earlier, even though that carried the real potential

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 1>for the targeted member to be assassinated or otherwise harmed.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bureau also called people's parents, employers, landlords, and universities

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:26.919
<v Speaker 1>to inform them of their involvement in targeted organizations to

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<v Speaker 1>try to get them fired, evicted, or expelled. Many of

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<v Speaker 1>the targets of cointel pro New Left were college students,

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<v Speaker 1>and the FBI either contacted their parents to tell them

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 1>about their children's purportedly subversive activities or they faked calls

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 1>from parents to students haranguing them for their political activity.

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<v Speaker 1>The FBI also created and distributed published material that was

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:54.359
<v Speaker 1>meant to discredit their targets, and they fed news stories,

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:59.439
<v Speaker 1>sometimes real and sometimes fabricated, to the media. FBI informants

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.719
<v Speaker 1>gave media interviews in which they intentionally tried to make

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<v Speaker 1>the organizations they were purportedly representing look as bad as possible,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it was through using loaded rhetoric or emphasizing a

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>group's most controversial viewpoints, or just seeming unhinged. The FBI

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:19.879
<v Speaker 1>also paid informants to make false statements, for example, paying

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>informants who were part of nonviolent organizations to make public

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 1>calls for violence. In some cases, the bureau even set

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<v Speaker 1>up local branches of an organization, with the branch's entire

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 1>membership being made up completely of informants, or they set

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<v Speaker 1>up new fictitious organizations whose members were all informants so

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<v Speaker 1>that they could work against their actual targets. The FBI

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<v Speaker 1>also outed gay people and spread rumors about people's sexual orientations,

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 1>regardless of what their sexual orientation actually was. They made

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<v Speaker 1>postcards and mailed them to people's homes like for example,

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<v Speaker 1>a card that said quote thank you for your successful

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<v Speaker 1>anticipation in anti establishment and anti military Industrial complex activities,

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:09.120
<v Speaker 1>and those were sent to college students' parental addresses. During

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<v Speaker 1>co Intel pro New Left, the Bureau used postcards specifically

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>so that mail carriers, other members of a target's household,

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:21.359
<v Speaker 1>and others could also see the messaging, and so the

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:24.479
<v Speaker 1>intended target would wonder who else might have seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>Although most of these tactics were used across all the

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 1>different counterintelligence programs, they weren't used identically or to the

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 1>same extent from one to another. For example, the FBI

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't really create a lot of false documents to drive

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:41.879
<v Speaker 1>negative publicity for the ku Klux Klan under Cointel pro

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>White Hate. It didn't really need to, since the Ku

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Klux Klan's activities included openly harassing and murdering civil rights activists.

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:53.880
<v Speaker 1>As another example, the FBI also used tactics that had

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<v Speaker 1>the potential to cause really serious physical, emotional, or economic

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 1>harm during co Intel prob Bloe nationalist hate groups, but

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>really rarely used similar tactics when they were working in

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:09.440
<v Speaker 1>co Intel pro White Hate. Although the FBI was fairly

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:12.879
<v Speaker 1>insulated from other government departments, which is how it was

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>able to carry out these kinds of programs for so long.

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 1>It also pulled in other departments and bureaus. As part

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 1>of this work. The FBI leaked real and false information

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 1>to the IRS, prompting audits of civil rights leaders and

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:31.439
<v Speaker 1>other targets, essentially using the IRS to harass people. It

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:34.159
<v Speaker 1>did the same with local police, leading to things like

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 1>police harassment, arrests, false charges, and just a selective enforcement

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 1>of existing laws depending on who the FBI thought deserved

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>to be prosecuted. Basically, all these efforts combined investigation, disinformation,

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>psychological warfare, and harassment to try to destroy organizations that

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 1>the FBI thought were threatening, or, in the case of

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 1>cointel pro white hate, to just try to curb those

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 1>organizations violence rather than trying to neutralize them altogether. In

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<v Speaker 1>all of this, the FBI's focus was on whether what

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 1>it was doing was effective, not on whether these tactics

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 1>were constitutional or otherwise legal. According to the FBI, co

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<v Speaker 1>intel pro operations were a tiny proportion of its overall

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 1>work between nineteen fifty six and nineteen seventy one, quote

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<v Speaker 1>about two tenths of one percent of the FBI's workload

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<v Speaker 1>over a fifteen year period. At the same time, more

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<v Speaker 1>than fifty thousand pages of co intel pro documents were

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<v Speaker 1>released to the public. Starting in the nineteen seventies, a

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<v Speaker 1>Senate investigation concluded that the FBI had carried out two thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred seventy separate counterintelligence actions, with almost one thousand

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<v Speaker 1>additional actions being proposed but not carried out. More were unearthed.

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<v Speaker 1>Later on, we're going to talk about coin cell pro

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<v Speaker 1>white hate, which, as we've noted, is kind of an

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<v Speaker 1>outlier in all of this. After a quick sponsor break,

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI established most of its co intel pros because

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<v Speaker 1>it believed that the people and organizations that it was

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<v Speaker 1>targeting were a threat. Overwhelmingly, these targets were on the

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<v Speaker 1>political left. They were people and groups who were advocating

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<v Speaker 1>for things like civil rights, black liberation, women's liberation, pacifism, socialism, communism,

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear disarmament, and an end to the US involvement in

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<v Speaker 1>the Vietnam War. Things like that. As we noted at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the show, there were exceptions, but most

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<v Speaker 1>of the time the people and organizations being targeted weren't

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<v Speaker 1>violent threats. Even organizations that weren't specifically nonviolent. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the time were focused on defending themselves with violence

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<v Speaker 1>if necessary, not on instigating violence, or in some cases,

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<v Speaker 1>there were individual members of an organization that were involved

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>in violence while the organization itself was not. Co Intel

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<v Speaker 1>pro White Hate started on July thirtieth, nineteen sixty four,

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<v Speaker 1>and in many ways it was an outlier when compared

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<v Speaker 1>to the other co Intel pros. Most of the other

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<v Speaker 1>programs shifted and expanded over time, and some of them

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<v Speaker 1>were particularly vague. For example, in co Intel pro New Left,

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI did not have a precise definition for what

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<v Speaker 1>New Left even meant. But co Intel pro White Hate

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<v Speaker 1>was focused on white supremacist groups, especially the Ku Klux Klan,

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<v Speaker 1>and it kept that focus throughout its whole existence. The

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<v Speaker 1>Ku Klux Klan has been through a few iterations in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, and it surged in popularity during the

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<v Speaker 1>Civil Rights movement, with its members fighting against integration and

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<v Speaker 1>terrorizing black people in other communities, using everything from cross

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<v Speaker 1>burnings to murder. Co Intel pro White Hate targeted seventeen

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Ku Klux Klan organizations and nine other hate groups, including

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<v Speaker 1>the American Nazi Party. Another big difference is that many

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<v Speaker 1>of the other co intel pros were focused on organizations

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<v Speaker 1>that were challenging the status quo. The Ku Klux Klan

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<v Speaker 1>and other targeted hate groups, on the other hand, were

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<v Speaker 1>maintaining the status quo by upholding segregation, racism, and white supremacy.

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<v Speaker 1>They harassed, threatened, and murdered integrationists and civil rights workers,

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<v Speaker 1>primarily in the Southern United States. In general, members of

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<v Speaker 1>these organizations were also Christian, anti communists, intensely patriotic, and

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<v Speaker 1>supportive of both local and federal law enforcement. So, unlike

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<v Speaker 1>with the other co intel pros, the FBI's goal wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>to totally neutralize these groups. It was just to curb

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<v Speaker 1>their violence and prevent that violence from spreading to other groups.

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<v Speaker 1>The FBI also took the initiative to launch its other

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<v Speaker 1>co intel pros based on its own assessments of what

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<v Speaker 1>constituted a threat, But co intel pro white hate followed

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<v Speaker 1>intense pressure from outside the bureau, including from President Lyndon

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<v Speaker 1>Baines Johnson and Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy. Current and

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<v Speaker 1>former klansmen and other white supremacists had carried out a

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<v Speaker 1>whole series of murders and other acts of violence. This

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<v Speaker 1>included the nineteen sixty three Sixteenth Street Baptist church bonding,

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<v Speaker 1>which killed fourteen year olds Addie mccollins, Denise McNair and

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<v Speaker 1>Carol Robertson and eleven year old Cynthia Wesley. It also

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<v Speaker 1>included the nineteen sixty three murder of Medgar Evers and

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen sixty four murders of civil rights activists Michael Schwermer,

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Goodman, and James Cheney. After coinceel pro white hate started,

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 1>members of the clan also murdered Viola Luzo, and one

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<v Speaker 1>of the participants in that murder might have been a

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<v Speaker 1>paid FBI informant. The FBI was criticized for failing to

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<v Speaker 1>prevent or intervene in any of this, something that the

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<v Speaker 1>Bureau had argued was not part of its jurisdiction, but

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<v Speaker 1>the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four had guaranteed

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<v Speaker 1>black Americans equal protection under the law in a number

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<v Speaker 1>of different contexts, which made it hard for the FBI

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:02.480
<v Speaker 1>to continue that argument. Cointel pro white hate then served

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 1>several purposes for the FBI. It allowed the bureau to

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrate for the President and the Attorney General that it

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<v Speaker 1>was doing something to investigate these crimes. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>by using covert counterintelligence, the FBI could do most of

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<v Speaker 1>this work in secret without alienating or antagonizing Southern law enforcement,

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 1>many of whom tacitly allowed the Ku Klux Klan and

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 1>other hate groups to operate in their area or actively participated.

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:32.840
<v Speaker 1>As a side note, when j Edgar Hoover said quote

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Martin Luther King is the most notorious liar in

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<v Speaker 1>the country in nineteen sixty four, that was in response

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<v Speaker 1>to King's criticisms that the Bureau was too friendly with

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<v Speaker 1>Southern segregationists and that the Southern FBI agents were not

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<v Speaker 1>taking threats to Black Americans seriously. The FBI used a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the types of tactics that we discussed earlier

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<v Speaker 1>in the episode during cointel pro white hate. As we

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<v Speaker 1>noted earlier, the Bureau didn't really need to create materials

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:03.320
<v Speaker 1>to try to bring bad pr to the clan because

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:05.760
<v Speaker 1>the clan was doing a lot of that work for them.

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<v Speaker 1>The FBI publicized not only their hate crimes, but also

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<v Speaker 1>other crimes committed by clan leaders and members, including things

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<v Speaker 1>like embezzlement and attempting to arrange marriages between clan members

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>and underage girls. The FBI also publicly identified clan leaders,

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<v Speaker 1>including leaking their names to the press who published critical

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:31.280
<v Speaker 1>articles and satirical editorial cartoons. After the House on American

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Activities Committee held hearings on the clan, something that the

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 1>committee was pressured to take on, the FBI released those

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 1>findings to the press as well. The FBI also worked

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 1>to so distrust within these organizations. They sent thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>postcards to clan members that either implied or flat out

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>said that the government had infiltrated the organization or that

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>accused KKK leaders of fraud or other wrongdoing. These postcards

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>said things like clansmen, trying to hide your identity behind

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<v Speaker 1>your sheet? You received this, someone knows who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, these postcards served multiple purposes to make clan

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>members think the organization had been infiltrated, to make them

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<v Speaker 1>wonder how many other people had seen that postcard on

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<v Speaker 1>its way to them, and to make it possible for

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<v Speaker 1>other people, including postal workers, to see that the target

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<v Speaker 1>was in the clan. During coen Cel pro White Hate,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bureau created the National Committee for Domestic Tranquility, which

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<v Speaker 1>sent letters and other materials to clan members to stoke

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<v Speaker 1>dissent and spread rumors about informants. They printed accusations that

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<v Speaker 1>clan leaders were the anti Christ and kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>weird irony. The FBI, which is we've talked about, was

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<v Speaker 1>really focused on undermining communism, tried to undermine clan membership

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:55.920
<v Speaker 1>by spreading rumors that communists had infiltrated the organizations. The

0:36:56.040 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>organization itself was fiercely anti communist. Some of the operations

0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:04.360
<v Speaker 1>were almost bizarre. In one instance, the FBI collected the

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<v Speaker 1>charred remnants of a cross that the clan had burned

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and then had it delivered by courier to a clan meeting,

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<v Speaker 1>hoping to reinforce the idea that not only had someone

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<v Speaker 1>known about the cross burning and who was behind it,

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<v Speaker 1>but that they also knew when and where the group gathered.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not clear how effective this was. According to

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<v Speaker 1>the book that I was reading about this, they took

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<v Speaker 1>it outside and tried to light it on fire again.

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<v Speaker 1>The targeted hate groups naturally realized that they had informants

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<v Speaker 1>in their midst Some turned toward requiring lie detector tests

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and questioning people under the effects of sodium pentathal to

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<v Speaker 1>try to determine whether a person was loyal. It is

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<v Speaker 1>not clear whether co Intel pro white hate thwarted white

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>supremacist violence, but overall membership in the clan did drop

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<v Speaker 1>during these years, from an estimated fourteen to fifteen thousand

0:37:57.040 --> 0:38:01.319
<v Speaker 1>members before co Intel pro tour twey three hundred in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy one. It does also seem that public perceptions

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:09.400
<v Speaker 1>of the clan shifted during these same years, with more people,

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<v Speaker 1>especially more white people, seeing the clan in similar hate groups,

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<v Speaker 1>as violent and unstable and mentally connecting the clan to Nazis.

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<v Speaker 1>Some white Southern leaders who had tacitly or directly approved

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<v Speaker 1>of the clan's activities gradually distanced themselves during the Bureaus operations.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the next episode, we're going to talk more

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<v Speaker 1>about some of the other Cohentel pros, including intense targeting

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<v Speaker 1>of the Black Panthers, and we'll also talk about, honestly

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite parts of this whole story, which

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<v Speaker 1>is how these programs were finally exposed. That is a

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<v Speaker 1>very very good story. Thanks so much for joining us

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