1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeart. 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 2: Radio tonight though open lines, Merry Christmas, Hanika, stuff happening, 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: all sorts of things. We'll be talking about that throughout 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: the evening and right now though, we have Jim Peniston 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 2: with us talking about the biggest military document at UFO 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 2: event in history. As we ended during the break, you 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: had taken the pictures that didn't work, and now you're, 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: I guess heading a little closer to the object. 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: Yes. 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: As I was entering the forest, I was feeling things 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 3: that were odd, like an electric like static electricity on 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 3: my clothing and my face and hair. And I was 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: at first I wrote that off as being a door line, okay, 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: but it continued. As I entered the forest. The you know, 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 3: the men's white light had powered down, for lack of 16 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: better words, and I could well then I could just 17 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 3: see different color lights that were above it. And uh. 18 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 3: I was also as I entered, uh, I felt it 19 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: was cumbersome to walk. It felt like walking through a 20 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 3: pool of water that was waist high. I was my 21 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: my walk was labored at that point. I uh, in 22 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 3: this light, this. 23 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: Light was on the ground, you're walking toward it in 24 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 2: the forest. 25 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: Yes, but you got to remember there's berms there, and 26 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: those berms stood about three four feet high, so you 27 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: couldn't get a direct I couldn't get a direct sighting 28 00:01:53,200 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: of it. And as I entered, I felt those physical effects, 29 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: and uh, that's when I terminated the uh uh down 30 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 3: aircraft security response option. I called it in. I wasn't 31 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 3: receiving anything from the crow center. I don't think they 32 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: could hear me. That's I I figured that. I thought 33 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: they could hear me. I just couldn't hear them, and uh, 34 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: Command Zach was back here to relay anything anyway. Excuse 35 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: me a second. I'm just getting over a cold. 36 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: There's no coughing on this show. There's there's absolutely no 37 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: coughing on this show. 38 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. 39 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: There's a fine for that. That's pretty only write it 40 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: after Connie with us, I was working. 41 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 3: So hard not the cough and that's what it's gonna happen, 42 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: you know it. Then you got in there, and uh, 43 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 3: you know, I could see the other in the law 44 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 3: enforcement guy. He's about twenty feet to my right, and 45 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 3: I had Command Zac. I turned around. He was there, 46 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: but I noticed they weren't moving, And I said, that's 47 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: that's odd. You know, well why aren't they moving? I said, 48 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: maybe they're scared. Maybe they're so scared they're like frozen. 49 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: You know. 50 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. So I try to think logically, you know. 51 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: And so I changed the response option, called it in 52 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: some initiate a helping hand situation, and helping hand the 53 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: situation is a is a telephoning up channel report to 54 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: our control centers all the way up to the Pentagon 55 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: if it's needed of a possible hostile event involving and 56 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: our base had prior to A B and C resources 57 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: which means nuclear and you know, and we have six 58 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: squads of A tens there. I mean, there was sensitive 59 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: resources there. So I initiated the healthy hand. And so 60 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: now I'm treating as a possible hospital hostile threat. Uh 61 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: and here I am unarmed. That was that was a 62 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: good idea to leave the guns at the inter control point. 63 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 3: I regreted that it would have. It would have made 64 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: no difference either. 65 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not saying anything, but I do agree 66 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: with you. I don't think it would have made a difference. 67 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: No, it wouldn't. I mean, but I think it would 68 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: just made me feel better. I don't know. Yeah, because 69 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: this is now into even though I'm prying to stay grounded, 70 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: like running this checklist in my head, I'm I'm working 71 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: hard to stay grounded because everything is going on is 72 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: not normal everything. So as I come up over the 73 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: this this burm, his final burm, and I felt like 74 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 3: I could move a little better, and you know, and 75 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: and they it was the other thing was this. It 76 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: was no no sound, everything was quiet. Couldn't hear the 77 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: wind and the trees. They couldn't hear me walking on 78 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: the ground. 79 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: It was really really you couldn't hear you walking. Oh 80 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: that's interesting. And you know you were on the ground 81 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: right you you know you were stepping on twigs and 82 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: branches or things. 83 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's forrest, you know, forest debris on you know, 84 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 3: like you know, old pine needles and stuff like that. 85 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: So you felt that but you didn't hear it. Oh 86 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: my gosh, that's right. 87 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: As I as I got over the berm, there was 88 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: like glober colors of light running around this thing, and 89 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: there was a white light underneath it. And then the 90 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 3: glove lights started to slow down, and finally they just 91 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 3: JUSTI painted and all I had in front of me 92 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: was a a black craft with this white light underneath. 93 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 3: So I'm at the point that I didn't Actually I 94 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 3: was pretty concerned. I had a lot of emotions going on, 95 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: but I was concerned that I might not make it 96 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: through this, you know, so I need to go ahead 97 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 3: and do what I can do. I took as many 98 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: notes as I'm gonna, I said, I gotta start taking notes. 99 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: I continued to make radio checks in on my IVR 100 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: interface radio, and then I said, I'm gonna get as 101 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: much information as I can. So I'm thinking, how the 102 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: hell is I think, is that thing on the ground 103 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 3: or is it just off the ground. 104 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: How's it doing that? 105 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 3: And as I approached it, I looked underneath there's just 106 00:06:53,520 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: like white light coming down three of them, and I says, well, 107 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: it's holding I think it's holding it, you know, fixed. 108 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: So the only way to find that out I took 109 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: my hands and I pushed on it. 110 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: See if you see it's amazing. 111 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: Well, I thought if it was, you know, it'd be 112 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: like a car, like you had a Caillac out there 113 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: and you pushed it, it should move right, And it 114 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: didn't move. It was solid, And I have no give 115 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: it at all. So I said, Well, I said, I 116 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: started feeling better because I felt a little safer. I says, 117 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: it looks like it's a little bit inert. It's not 118 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: doing anything like I'm going to continue my investigation. I 119 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: didn't have anything to measure it with. I mean, I stood, 120 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: I'm six foot two, and I say this thing based 121 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: on that, it was like, you know, maybe six and 122 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: a half seven feet tall. I couldn't really tell because 123 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: of the berms. The ground was uneven. Uh. So I 124 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: decided to pace it off. Uh And. 125 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: As you do all this, as you do all this, Jim, 126 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: you said, the other men are just frozen. They're just 127 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: standing there. 128 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 3: Yes they were. They were Yeah yeah interesting. Okay, well 129 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: I rationalized somebody thinking that they're probably scared. Yeah, uh yeah, 130 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: you know, I'm just frozen. 131 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: That's normally what happens. Yeah, they we always rationalize it exactly. 132 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: But but that's they're helping you. But but the thing is, 133 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: to me, that's crazy is that crazy error is Okay, 134 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: these other ones are frozen. To me, they are under 135 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: some other control at this point. They're frozen like that. 136 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 2: But man, they allowed you to do all this there 137 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 2: you were to do this. 138 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: Jim, Oh, yes, I completely agree with you. Okay, I 139 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: believe me. I believe one hundred They allowed me to 140 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: do that. And so I started pasting it off. My 141 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 3: gate's pretty big, so you know, my gig I can get. 142 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: I paste it off like at nine feet. And then 143 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: I'm looking for things that all aircraft have to make 144 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 3: them fly, like you know, arions, flaps, intake, exhaust, crew compartment. 145 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 3: It had none of that. As matter of fact, the 146 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: fabric of the craft, the outside of it was, was seamless, 147 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: and it had no rivets like aircraft has and. 148 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: So. 149 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: And then the other strange thing was this dwarf. This 150 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: I guess it's a rear I'm going by my orientation 151 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: to it. The rear of it had this higher like 152 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 3: dorsal fin type thing, you know, like what our aircraft have, 153 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: you know, in there in the rear end, you know, 154 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 3: for controlling, but there was nothing under the control. My 155 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 3: assessment right at that point was like, it's this thing 156 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: kind of fluid here. Because I'm looking around, the trees 157 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: aren't like five feet apart. I said, you know, I'm 158 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: thinking I just paste it off. It's nine feet. There's 159 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: no way it can go through those trees, and as 160 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: I as you know, I just so let's you know, 161 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 3: when when I touched, I didn't have no bloves on 162 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: it or nothing either in it. I know the air temperature, 163 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: I know, especially after about the radiation, I was thinking 164 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 3: that was stupid. 165 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: You know. 166 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: Anyway, I when I touched their temperature we later find 167 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 3: out was like thirty one thirty two degrees that night, 168 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: but it felt really warm to touch and war meaning 169 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: fifty to fifty five degrees. So I'm thinking, well, maybe this, yeah, 170 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 3: this is probably if it was traveling, you know, and 171 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 3: it might be warm. Turns out later on I found 172 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: out that's the beta radiation. Yeah, I know, I would 173 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: never touched it if I know about I lucky it 174 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 3: was beta. That's what Minue told me. Said, You're lucky 175 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 3: it was beta and that gamma. He says, we won't 176 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: be talking about it today, and I said, oh really, 177 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: He goes, yeah, that's bad stuff. Anyway, as I as 178 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 3: I walked around, yeah, I had a mix of emotions 179 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: that this Kanye, it was. 180 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you. 181 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: Can't believe. 182 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: I just think it's amazing at what you were allowed 183 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: to do. Because you you're definitely allowed to do this. 184 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: This is great, So carry on. I've got some popcorn 185 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: over here. I'm enjoyed. Go ahead. 186 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: Well, it wasn't. I didn't think it was big enough 187 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 3: for you know, a manned air aircraft or a man craft. 188 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 3: I didn't think it was big enough. You know. It's 189 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 3: just it was that had been cramped, I mean, all 190 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 3: pretty cramped. But my impressions, and I had a lot 191 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 3: of impressions while I was walking around that the impressions 192 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: of the craft. I I this was a pileless craft, 193 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: and drones were not a thing then, okay they didn't, Yeah, 194 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 3: just trying to craft weren't a thing then. I mean, 195 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 3: so as I walked around, you know, I was taking 196 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: notes and then I see on the far side. As 197 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 3: I came around, I see there's writing on it, and 198 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 3: I go, oh, thank God, about time. I mean, I'm 199 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: like I said, you know, I'll probably say the United 200 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: States there for his experimental a Soviet you know, sickle 201 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: something like that. And as I got closer to the 202 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 3: to these etchings, a glyphs, that's what they were as well, 203 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: describing you know that if I stretched my arms out 204 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: there about five or six feet you know, long that 205 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 3: long and maybe not that long, maybe five feet, And 206 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 3: then I used my hands because I was trying to 207 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 3: figure out how big the symbols were. And there was 208 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: a row of symbols on the bottom, and there's a 209 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 3: larger one on top with a triangle and a big 210 00:13:51,120 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 3: cigar around it, and two little smaller circles. And but 211 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 3: I was only at that point I had touched the 212 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 3: craft again. It was smooth, but when I went over 213 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: the glyph area, it was like touching sandpaper. Okay, that 214 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 3: would be the comparison. And so I recorded those walk 215 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: back around and I'm thinking, well, I'm waiting for my 216 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: response teams to come out there, you know, the first responders. 217 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 3: And I said, you know, I'm gonna take it another 218 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: look at those glyphs. This thing isn't going anywhere, because 219 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: it didn't look it looked like it was that it 220 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: was going to stay there, Okay, And as I walked 221 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: back around. 222 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: I says, it's odd. 223 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 3: It was odd that the circular one with the triangle 224 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 3: was a bigger one and above the other ones. And 225 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: so I touched it, you know, the just to feel it. 226 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 3: But once when I touched it, I had this brilliant 227 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: white light that I couldn't see anything, uh, and all 228 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: kinds of visions, Oh my god, it was horrifying visions 229 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: one zero's and stuff like that. It made no sense. 230 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: Once in Zeros, I don't it's like there's flashing. 231 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: So that was terrifying to you, And. 232 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: It was in my mind's eye, I was like, what 233 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 3: the well? And then I started gaming my witsund about 234 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: me and I just removed my hand and all of 235 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: a sudden, everything's back to normal. And I know it 236 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 3: wasn't light. I'm calling it light, but it wasn't light 237 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: because I had my night vision back, and I had 238 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: never lost my night vision while I was out there, 239 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: So I mean I could still see and you know, 240 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: around the craft and anything that bright would actually blind 241 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: to me for about what a half hour or some 242 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 3: out there, And so after that point, I decide I'm 243 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: not going to touch that craft again. 244 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 245 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: one am Eastern, and go to Coast to coastam dot 246 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: com for more