Speaker 1: It's nine O Gene onegine with Jenny Garth and Tory spelling.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, this is it, you guys. Exciting day. Tory's back.
Speaker 3: Yes, Tory, welcome back. It is good to see you, guys.
Speaker 3: Most important question? Are you caught up on the uh
Speaker 3: train wreck that is season eight? Oh?
Speaker 4: Man, you guys? So I got to be honest.
Speaker 1: With the sickness and vertigo and everything, I couldn't focus
Speaker 1: on the show. That's why I just didn't want to
Speaker 1: watch it the season. This season is not good, you guys.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I am caught up and I'm not happy.
Speaker 1: What show is this? Oh?
Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I don't know. I don't This
Speaker 2: one really set me over the edge.
Speaker 3: I think this one was as equally bad as the
Speaker 3: week before.
Speaker 2: Are you kidding?
Speaker 4: It's just not our show? I will say.
Speaker 3: Priestley looks at his that's the like.
Speaker 4: Everyone looks really good.
Speaker 2: Everyone looks pretty.
Speaker 4: Jason Priestley is so handsome and hot hot babe. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say so smart for leaving season eight.
Speaker 3: He makes Noah look not handsome? Do you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying? Like, Jason Priestley is so hot that You're like, whatever,
Speaker 3: do not let me forget to talk about Noah in
Speaker 3: that jeep.
Speaker 2: Or that cut off button down?
Speaker 3: Why okay, I am Noah and I'm giving you a menacing.
Speaker 4: Look like to a.
Speaker 3: Murdery Loan shark in my red topless jeep.
Speaker 4: Like it was so dumb.
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, oh no, this is the episode
Speaker 2: where you Donna and Noah start up.
Speaker 3: The kiss was good? Actually I actually thought that was good.
Speaker 2: Well, because yeah, you real real feelings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have way more chemistry with him than than Valerie.
Speaker 3: Are you gonna say David no, no, no, no no,
Speaker 3: But then Valerie did with Noah and it takes all
Speaker 3: my strength to not call him Colin.
Speaker 2: You have more chemistry than him with David in certain respects.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually, wow, jet old that. I mean, life are
Speaker 1: imitating art, art imitating life? Do you think at this
Speaker 1: point like I was like, my dad knew and he
Speaker 1: was like, oh, we're going to put them together. Or
Speaker 1: I don't know, I convinced you at a drunken rat
Speaker 1: party to talk to my dad about putting us together.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I had nothing to do with it, that's all I do.
Speaker 4: You would have been like hard pass.
Speaker 2: I would have been like you guys, that's above my
Speaker 2: prey pay grade. Tell me what I'm supposed to say
Speaker 2: around here. I don't think. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Did you Did you ask for it? Do you remember?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: Could you know?
Speaker 1: I would never ask for anything. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: be tree differently, but people knew something happened. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure you were very tolerant of him. I've got to say,
Speaker 1: looking back on all the boys I've been with, you
Speaker 1: were good because you had to work with him every day,
Speaker 1: so you couldn't really fire off.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't remember. I think I was kind
Speaker 2: of doing my own thing at the time. I was
Speaker 2: a new mom.
Speaker 4: You just had a baby.
Speaker 2: I didn't really Yeah, I didn't really have time or
Speaker 2: the bandwidth to think about yeah. Or I wasn't really
Speaker 2: involved in your social life at that point. Oh, you were, but.
Speaker 4: It was good.
Speaker 1: But because you were a new mom, I just slipped by.
Speaker 1: So that was good timing on my part because you
Speaker 1: would not have been tolerant of that.
Speaker 4: Excuse me if I glitched.
Speaker 3: Are we talking about your real life romance with Noah
Speaker 3: it's his real name, against Yan? Yes? And how can
Speaker 3: you just give me again. Sorry if I just fully glitched.
Speaker 3: When did that start? How long did it go? And
Speaker 3: how was it trying to do that and work with him?
Speaker 4: It started in Hawaii?
Speaker 2: Well then when you guys were filming, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like the flirtation, getting to know each other. I remember
Speaker 1: the hospital scene with Jen when she had amnesia. I
Speaker 1: remember telling him, oh, you have to taste my lasagna.
Speaker 1: Not going anywhere else there.
Speaker 3: Wait wait, first of all, wait wait wait, wait.
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait I r l O. Donna told him
Speaker 2: you have to taste my lazan.
Speaker 1: So I remember filming those scenes in the hospital when
Speaker 1: you were shot in the.
Speaker 2: Hospital, Donna, you were Donna or you were I was Tory.
Speaker 1: This is so confusing, And I remember in between takes,
Speaker 1: I was massaging him in his chair and he's like.
Speaker 4: Oh, you give such a good back. Besides, is that
Speaker 4: a new come on?
Speaker 2: I am out about?
Speaker 4: Is that a new come on? You have to taste
Speaker 4: my lazonia? And I was like, well, I'm a really
Speaker 4: good cook.
Speaker 1: I make this was always my go to. Like I
Speaker 1: was good with like shoulder massage and I make a
Speaker 1: great lasagna.
Speaker 4: So I was like going all out, try we get
Speaker 4: this guy.
Speaker 1: And he was like cool, and I remember making it
Speaker 1: and going over to his house after we filmed that night.
Speaker 3: This is the difference between when you guys were twenty
Speaker 3: and now, because now I'm like, can I have this
Speaker 3: shoulder massage?
Speaker 4: And we were together for three years?
Speaker 2: You guys, I'm calling yours. You took lasagna to Vince
Speaker 2: Young's house correct after filming all day and rubbing his
Speaker 2: back and nothing happened.
Speaker 1: You know the end story here, which you'll get with you.
Speaker 1: Nothing happened. Eventually something happened. But let's just say I
Speaker 1: was celibate for three years.
Speaker 3: Wait, you dated him for three years, so you're gonna
Speaker 3: date him season eight, nine, ten?
Speaker 4: And then do you end? Because the show ends?
Speaker 1: Now we went on, I mean I basically lived with him.
Speaker 1: What is like after the show ended? That's when he
Speaker 1: felt comfortable being like, Okay, she's my girlfriend and wait
Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait, hold out my hand in public
Speaker 1: and going on red carpets with me.
Speaker 2: I need to know this stage. Did you become celibate
Speaker 2: for three years?
Speaker 4: That night the entire time? Wait because he didn't want
Speaker 4: to do that. I don't want to talk about this.
Speaker 2: I don't blame you because it's starting to come back
Speaker 2: to me a little.
Speaker 1: Bit, because I got nervous that you guys would think
Speaker 1: we were like doing it like it wasn't.
Speaker 2: Well, of course we would think that if you guys
Speaker 2: are dating, you're grown ups.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it got to the point, but he would never
Speaker 1: it was noncommittal. We've talked about it years later, and
Speaker 1: he was like, I was nervous. I worked for your
Speaker 1: dad like I didn't. I'm like, but I slept at
Speaker 1: your house four out of seven nights a week.
Speaker 4: Like that is wild.
Speaker 3: The Internet describes your relationship as complicated and consuming consuming?
Speaker 2: How does how does the Internet know?
Speaker 3: It says it caused strain between you and Brian?
Speaker 1: It did?
Speaker 4: True? What true? It did?
Speaker 1: And Brian and I have discussed like that kind of
Speaker 1: started our eighteen year We didn't talk for eighteen years.
Speaker 4: That was a big reason. How did I not know that?
Speaker 3: This feels like multiple episodes we're doing here? So will
Speaker 3: Vincent Young be coming on this podcast or no?
Speaker 1: Maybe Jen ask him, what why wouldn't you come in
Speaker 1: asco I don't know because we're talking about this stuff.
Speaker 4: Hopefully he won't listen.
Speaker 2: If he's gonna come on the show. There's a chance
Speaker 2: he might go back and listen to him. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: gotta say, like, what have they been saying?
Speaker 4: Nah, I'm gonna go with no on that. Can you
Speaker 4: text him like do you have his number?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: So we talked again and started the convention we were
Speaker 1: at the one we got ripped off, the one I
Speaker 1: was pregnant. Vince was there and that's the first time
Speaker 1: I had seen him since we broke up. And we
Speaker 1: started talking again and dming and texting as friends, and
Speaker 1: I was like, good, we have like a reconnection and
Speaker 1: that's nice. And then when I DMed him because I
Speaker 1: did DM him to come on this show, no response.
Speaker 4: WHOA, Let's try again? Yeah? Sure? Why not?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 4: How do you feel about him today?
Speaker 3: Like when you watch it, is it like triggering or
Speaker 3: like fondness or do you think he's cute?
Speaker 1: Like what do you feel the same as always, I
Speaker 1: have no feelings at all.
Speaker 4: I pushed it down. I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's got to be something there. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think it was three years. We weren't supposed to be together.
Speaker 1: We had a lot in common mentally, I know Jen's
Speaker 1: gonna be like what he's satisfied me. He had a
Speaker 1: great humor. We loved independent films, we loved shopping, and
Speaker 1: you know, he had a great design taste.
Speaker 4: So there were a lot of things.
Speaker 1: About him that I liked that people wouldn't get from
Speaker 1: watching him on the show. He's very artsy and just
Speaker 1: he was young and became and didn't want to commit
Speaker 1: to the boss's daughter.
Speaker 4: And yet I just kept going, well, that's the we
Speaker 4: all did that. I know.
Speaker 3: Did he continue acting after this?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I always get defensive.
Speaker 1: Someone the other day was like, oh, he quit acting, right,
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, no, No, he's doing really well.
Speaker 1: He does a lot of independent films. He was just
Speaker 1: announcing Deadline doing something with it with Mickey Rourke.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good casting him.
Speaker 1: And he does a lot of he didn't move back
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia, but he does a lot of movies out
Speaker 1: of New York.
Speaker 4: He's married, he is he finally committed and got married.
Speaker 2: Wow. Well, I know way more about Vincent Young than
Speaker 2: I ever.
Speaker 4: Did or ever wanted to. You're welcome, you guys.
Speaker 2: Can we please talk about the episode now?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: Episode ten of season eight, Child of the Night, Umber
Speaker 2: twelve nineteen ninety seven synopsis.
Speaker 1: Donna and Noah share a lip block on the doc.
Speaker 1: Erica McKay is back working the block. Valerie is drowning
Speaker 1: and anger. David just drowning in debt. Brandon won't reveal
Speaker 1: his source. The DA dishes a threat. Steve has caught
Speaker 1: in Jody's pregnancy drama. But even Sanders can't handle two
Speaker 1: baby mamas.
Speaker 3: Which storyline do you guys like the least? Let's start
Speaker 3: with that one, Oh good aby c and d Steve's vals,
Speaker 3: No Steve, which one?
Speaker 2: Kellie driving a van by.
Speaker 3: The way, I literally was like, where'd she get that van?
Speaker 3: It's that other lady's van, remember, And then Don is
Speaker 3: in there with you. And you've become an expert now
Speaker 3: on spotting ladies of the Evening.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I've seen so many I mean.
Speaker 3: Those storyline and first of all, Erica's not. And thank
Speaker 3: you to all our followers who actually kind of agree
Speaker 3: with us that this very dumb storyline Okay they could,
Speaker 3: they did not get mad at us for saying it.
Speaker 3: Thank happy, Thank goodness. Also, Toy doesn't know that we're
Speaker 3: doing a brady bunch of rewatched you and I I.
Speaker 4: Mean you guys talk about it when I'm on like
Speaker 4: every single time. So, yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: Mine, It's mine the pocket watch, Like she's gonna give
Speaker 3: that girl the pocket watch her brother Dylan Gate, Like
Speaker 3: there's so many things that I'm like, this is not happening.
Speaker 2: I would have to be honest. I was trying to
Speaker 2: brush my hair when this episode was on, and I
Speaker 2: was really tangled, so I couldn't focus. What did he
Speaker 2: get the watch back?
Speaker 3: She says, She So I think Erica keeps it at
Speaker 3: the end because Brandon says he'd want you to have it.
Speaker 4: There's some kind of toy.
Speaker 1: I would tell you where this storyline comes from. So
Speaker 1: my dad did a movie of the week, one of
Speaker 1: the early ones called Lee of the Night.
Speaker 4: Oh, and like it's coming back to me, Linda Pearl,
Speaker 4: do I have this right? Do you remember to say?
Speaker 3: First of all, you mean Patrick Duffy's girlfriend. I loved
Speaker 3: there together. There's nothing better than the fact that Linda
Speaker 3: Pearl has ended up with Patrick Duffy.
Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you that name.
Speaker 1: So it was a really big TV movie at the time,
Speaker 1: and that's where I don't know.
Speaker 4: Someone must have been like, remember that TV movie you
Speaker 4: did Let's.
Speaker 1: Little Ladies one of the Night, Little Ladies of the Night,
Speaker 1: which he then went on to do a male version
Speaker 1: which starred your ex husband Peter Fatchanelle.
Speaker 2: Little Little Fellas of the Night.
Speaker 4: Yes, what was that called?
Speaker 2: H Little Boys of the Night? Uh?
Speaker 4: Can I say that this was in.
Speaker 3: Nineteen seventy seven that Aaron Spelling did Little Ladies of
Speaker 3: the Night starring Linda Pearl and lou Gossipt Junior.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 4: Wow, And for some reason I don't know, were movies
Speaker 4: of the night, movies of the night, movies of the
Speaker 4: week not done. Then it was a really big deal
Speaker 4: and did really well. And I think people were.
Speaker 2: When it was like it wasn't just a movie of
Speaker 2: the night. It was like a special.
Speaker 3: It's probably an event, yeah, yeah movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah. It wasn't like the run of the mill, like
Speaker 4: Women in Peril, like oh, we got a lifetime movie
Speaker 4: here once a week. It was like a big event.
Speaker 4: You're right.
Speaker 3: Pretty young Haley Atkins runs away from her oblivious father
Speaker 3: Frank and jealous stepmother Marilyn, arriving in Los Angeles, ending
Speaker 3: up on Hollywood Boulevard. She's befriended by prostitute Maureen, who
Speaker 3: eventually turns out Haley as part of Maureene's pimps, Comfort Stable,
Speaker 3: whoa took a dark.
Speaker 2: Turn comfort Stable. Wow wait wait, okay, so you're saying
Speaker 2: this was something that your dad, it was brought to
Speaker 2: him that he it sparked interest in him. He wanted
Speaker 2: to explore this Ladies in the Night Underworld. It's not
Speaker 2: fit for me.
Speaker 1: I'm sad, Hey, guys, you know, like going back, I
Speaker 1: did this, you know, movie of the week. Let's bring
Speaker 1: this somehow into nine o two and zero or if
Speaker 1: John Eisendrat was like Hairen, like remember that we could
Speaker 1: do this?
Speaker 3: Can I also say that Vic Taybach, star of Alice,
Speaker 3: was also in this? Was he mil Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 3: Do you remember watching it? I've never seen this, as
Speaker 3: much as I.
Speaker 1: Would like to say I have, I do, I mean
Speaker 1: not watching it, but I remember my dad, you know,
Speaker 1: looking at dailies and stuff, and I was really young.
Speaker 1: I had no idea what it was about, except I
Speaker 1: thought Linda Pearl was super.
Speaker 4: Do you guys want to even guess how many people
Speaker 4: watched it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Back then nineteen seventy seven? Was it ABC?
Speaker 4: Is that correct? Okay? Just take a guess. Not that
Speaker 4: many people have had TVs. Well, yes they did, Ye'll
Speaker 4: take it.
Speaker 2: I think millions in the million.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, give a guess. Ooh twenty million.
Speaker 3: Gosh, very close, twenty six million. Twenty six million.
Speaker 2: People like that's because tell them why Amy?
Speaker 4: There was no other TV.
Speaker 3: There were three networks, so it was like a big
Speaker 3: old deal.
Speaker 1: Was it Monday Nights they aired back then or is
Speaker 1: that something that came later? What you were how Monday Nights?
Speaker 1: That was the movie of Oh I can't see what
Speaker 1: networks to night.
Speaker 3: It was, but I can see that it beat Helter
Speaker 3: Skelter well, and then it was it was beat by
Speaker 3: the day after.
Speaker 2: He wants to watch Helter Skelter.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, the day after My dad did that as well.
Speaker 4: He did that thing. Wow, that traumatized me, scary. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wait, okay, So going back, you're saying that this storyline
Speaker 2: is brought from that movie.
Speaker 1: Correct, No one told me this, but you guys, I
Speaker 1: can you're guestimating. I'm guessing it's the exact same storyline,
Speaker 1: just modernized a bit.
Speaker 2: It's the storyline of any hooker storyline basically.
Speaker 4: I know. But it's called the Child of the Night.
Speaker 4: His movie is called Ladies of the Night.
Speaker 3: I thought it was maybe like also Pretty Women? When
Speaker 3: did Pretty Woman come out? By the way, sorry to
Speaker 3: correct you, but your dad was not the producer of
Speaker 3: the Day After?
Speaker 2: Sorry?
Speaker 4: Wait are you sure? Day one? That's not the day after?
Speaker 4: Day After? Like playing the Day After? Was the was
Speaker 4: a different thing. But that's okay? Sorry? Uh when was
Speaker 4: Pretty Woman? That was like nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 3: So maybe this was sort of a combination of the
Speaker 3: Pretty Woman.
Speaker 4: Success ninety with Little Ladies of the Evening I'm gonna
Speaker 4: go with no hard now, just the Little Ladies of
Speaker 4: the Night. Yes, I'm a guarantee it. I mean it tracks?
Speaker 2: Does it track? Do you like this storyline?
Speaker 4: No? No, it's terrible.
Speaker 2: I don't really get that.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing, you guys, it's not our show.
Speaker 2: She's staying on the cast. Is there something redeeming about her?
Speaker 3: I think she has a couple more episodes, Lorraine, can
Speaker 3: you look up how many she has? I just think,
Speaker 3: once again, we've tied up something with a bow in
Speaker 3: two episodes. That's like traumatizing a Yeah, but is there
Speaker 3: really a bow?
Speaker 4: It?
Speaker 2: Riggs is gonna come after Brandon. Now I think so, yeah, well,
Speaker 2: this is definitely not our show.
Speaker 3: We've also got too much of this going because we've
Speaker 3: got Rigs and The Loan Shark. It's like we've got
Speaker 3: two of these going, guys, And I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, looking at this show with all these storylines, could
Speaker 1: you compare it to what show it is reminiscent of?
Speaker 4: If not nine or two now during this time.
Speaker 2: Or TJ Hooker, I didn't watch TV back during this time.
Speaker 3: I did, what you what is it reminding you of
Speaker 3: something I don't want to watch?
Speaker 4: Like Hill Street Blue?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Like it's I got it.
Speaker 1: I see it's I don't know if I'm a girl
Speaker 1: in my twenties, which, hey, I was a girl in
Speaker 1: my twenties, this isn't the stuff I want to watch.
Speaker 4: I want to say, it's more voy skewed.
Speaker 1: I want to say, it's like it's a drama without
Speaker 1: the fun fluff.
Speaker 2: Like or the like juicy loveness. They're like, you know,
Speaker 2: cute outfits.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want it's also negative, Jenny. It makes
Speaker 3: such a good point. It's like we've got this, We've
Speaker 3: got the Loan Shark, We've got the only sort of
Speaker 3: highlight is Donna and Noah, and yet it's still kind
Speaker 3: of like dramatic you're seeing with David.
Speaker 4: Just it's just it's, you know, Dawson's Creek didn't do
Speaker 4: this stuff, Gossip Girl didn't do this.
Speaker 2: What it is, you know what it is, it's older
Speaker 2: men writing. And you've said it before and you're so right.
Speaker 2: It's it's some older men's idea of what this teen
Speaker 2: drama should have been about, and they are not the same.
Speaker 4: Like, you know what, I'm even okay with soapy stuff,
Speaker 4: but this isn't even soapy stuff. It's exactly right, and.
Speaker 2: It shouldn't have been soapy stuff because our audience wasn't soapy.
Speaker 2: They were They just wanted real teen things and you know,
Speaker 2: interactions between their favorite group of people, and they wanted
Speaker 2: to learn things from these characters. But they didn't want
Speaker 2: to see the CD side of LA.
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, I never thought I'd say I miss
Speaker 3: the crab cakes flying into the you know at that
Speaker 3: weird gala party.
Speaker 4: It's like that sort of better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would take the do do like Jason, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: fun line like stories.
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's just my dad wanted.
Speaker 1: To create TV to give people an escapism from their lives,
Speaker 1: and I feel like watching this particular episode or some
Speaker 1: of the previous.
Speaker 4: Ones on a Wednesday night makes you bummed. It's depressing.
Speaker 4: It's not like, oh my gosh, feel better.
Speaker 1: I'm like taking out of my life into this world
Speaker 1: for one hour and that's a that's a bummer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not like, what's going to happen my favorite
Speaker 2: character anymore? It's going to get It's like, I don't
Speaker 2: know what's going to happen. Who are they going to
Speaker 2: bring on this week?
Speaker 3: Well, and all the punching I don't like that, like
Speaker 3: punching David.
Speaker 4: Like on the ground. I don't. It's like, why am
Speaker 4: I watching a fistfight? Yuh because men like that? And
Speaker 4: then why am I watching that girl?
Speaker 3: I mean, I get it, it's done realistically, but that
Speaker 3: girls all beat up and it's just like calling nine
Speaker 3: one one and then Riggs comes in.
Speaker 4: It's just like dark.
Speaker 1: Dark, It's like n cis no what is it? It's
Speaker 1: one of those shows.
Speaker 2: Wait, is n cis Mates Murder? She wrote? That's how
Speaker 2: I with.
Speaker 4: A little bit of Maury Povich. Who's the daddy.
Speaker 3: Worry? She wrote?
Speaker 2: Is this girl pregnant or I mean there's a twist.
Speaker 4: Here, right, I mean, it's so weird.
Speaker 2: I don't feel like I can I believe her same
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 3: And I feel like he I'm very confused by, like
Speaker 3: Steve being like, it's not mine? Is it mine?
Speaker 4: It's not mine.
Speaker 3: It's like, I kept going take a paternity test, dude,
Speaker 3: what is your problem?
Speaker 4: Just one test? And he's like, I don't want to
Speaker 4: spend one thousand dollars for a thousand dollars?
Speaker 2: Is that what it costs?
Speaker 3: I have no idea, but like that seems the logical solve.
Speaker 1: It's so wait, do you think he won't take a
Speaker 1: test because maybe he's afraid?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, if you're I mean he was with her thousand percent.
Speaker 4: He's like, I am not the dad. We had protection?
Speaker 2: No, but then you see shades of didn't we didn't
Speaker 2: we have protection?
Speaker 3: Well, and then she says they did. So I'm assuming
Speaker 3: we're supposed to think, like, oops, there was an air.
Speaker 4: In the condom? Didn't dancy little hole did she put there?
Speaker 4: Is she going to be a bad character or she just?
Speaker 4: Like how episodes are we stuck with her?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I kind of when she was
Speaker 2: talking to Carly. I was like, you know what, I
Speaker 2: actually believe this girl, Jodie and Steve together more than
Speaker 2: I believe Carly.
Speaker 3: And so that's interesting. Jenny, I was like, they make.
Speaker 2: A perfect couple. Actually let him go, let them have
Speaker 2: a baby and go off with their lives.
Speaker 3: What did we forget? This thing's so messy? And then
Speaker 3: Valerie sneaking into the boat and once again sabotaging, Like
Speaker 3: I'm real sick of her.
Speaker 4: I gotta say.
Speaker 3: She comes in the boat, she's like, it's like she
Speaker 3: has amnesia that she forgot that she's the one who
Speaker 3: screwed over Noah because she wanted the rich guy. Then
Speaker 3: he does, she makes the dinner. He's very polite about it.
Speaker 3: Let me walk you out like this that's happening, like.
Speaker 2: Sleeves cut off of that shirt which I couldn't handle.
Speaker 2: Fair fair look like he came off with Gillian's eye.
Speaker 2: He's being so gentlemanly. I have to say, like, he's
Speaker 2: not he's not the angry type. He's just very like, hey,
Speaker 2: this isn't gonna because he's it's definitely done with her,
Speaker 2: like in his mind.
Speaker 4: Correct, He's like, you really no option? Mistreated me. Let
Speaker 4: me walk you out.
Speaker 3: So then here comes Donna, Hey, good guy, and then
Speaker 3: Valerie with her stink eye, and then she has to
Speaker 3: go and she can never take the high road. She
Speaker 3: can never see in her own self. I'm the one
Speaker 3: who screwed the up. So then she goes to David.
Speaker 3: Oh your girlfriends, Mike think.
Speaker 2: She always says when she goes to Brandon.
Speaker 4: I just remember what happens. I know what's coming. Oh god,
Speaker 4: it's my favorite word. And she's gonna go after me.
Speaker 2: Oh god, wait, I thought she was already going after
Speaker 2: you and your business.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's already doing it. No, but something happens in
Speaker 4: the future, like murder.
Speaker 2: Murder. I'm just so excited. What's gonna happen. No, I
Speaker 2: don't think murder.
Speaker 4: It had costs a Walsh.
Speaker 2: It doesn't get I don't think it gets any better.
Speaker 2: Hold on, But I'm confused about one thing with Carly
Speaker 2: and Jody.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I know nobody cares about this.
Speaker 4: But no I do.
Speaker 2: Actually, Carly says to Jody she wants she has her
Speaker 2: over to talk to her about it, and she does
Speaker 2: a solid for Steve apparently, But then she said, do
Speaker 2: you agree with this, and Carly says, no.
Speaker 3: Right, because Carly thinks she should keep that that that
Speaker 3: lady should.
Speaker 4: Keep the baby.
Speaker 2: Why because she kept her baby, okay.
Speaker 4: Even though the father's not involved.
Speaker 2: She's like, so what's right for you is right for everybody?
Speaker 1: Okay, Right they did. I don't a problem with that.
Speaker 1: I think Carly's a lot softer now. I like her
Speaker 1: a bit more the character. But I just thought like,
Speaker 1: it was so like you can't tell someone like it
Speaker 1: was too hard.
Speaker 3: More of a problem with telling that woman what to do.
Speaker 3: Nobody was bothered by that. Well you can do this
Speaker 3: or you could give it up for adoption.
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, that's just talking to Kenny.
Speaker 2: But then what did he say? He said something to
Speaker 2: Carly about like no, yes to Carly about her her
Speaker 2: baby daddy and said what choice did he have? So
Speaker 2: it's the flip side of the male's choice right to
Speaker 2: choose what she does with her body and subsequently the baby.
Speaker 2: But he's saying, this is the male perspective, where's our choice?
Speaker 2: That gets real, gets royal sticky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Carly telling him he has options of being a dad.
Speaker 4: There's variations of being fans on dad.
Speaker 3: It was like she was trying with that, but then
Speaker 3: it was also like you did this, dude, if you're
Speaker 3: the dad step up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's giving me weird vibes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like why are we doing this? That's
Speaker 3: my thing is like why are we doing this? On
Speaker 3: top of the loan shark, on top of the little
Speaker 3: ladies of the evening, on top of like Valerie up
Speaker 3: to her antics.
Speaker 4: It's just like, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, if I had to guess, it was to try
Speaker 1: to weave a storyline with Stephen Carly and call it
Speaker 1: back to her being a single mom. And now this
Speaker 1: is happening with him and this woman. They're trying to
Speaker 1: give them something, which is giving them nothing at all.
Speaker 3: How about that woman saying she was gonna throw a
Speaker 3: Brandon in jail if he didn't reveal his source.
Speaker 4: Yeah, something real. That house's so hot behind bars.
Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, he definitely got a tear drop right here,
Speaker 2: DoD One, you know what I'm talking about. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel I feel like the whole
Speaker 2: lady stocking Brandon. Now the what's she called? The doesn't
Speaker 2: have anything better to do, but come to this, it's
Speaker 2: da lady, The da is gonna knock knock, knock on.
Speaker 3: I looked it is possible to require the press to
Speaker 3: reveal confidential sources, particularly in federal cases, although forty nine
Speaker 3: states and DC have shield laws or court recognized privileges
Speaker 3: protecting journalists.
Speaker 2: Hm hm hmm. So he's really caught in the crosshairs,
Speaker 2: is what you're saying.
Speaker 4: He's really become a journalist too, like he was.
Speaker 3: I thought the Beverly beat was just like what's on
Speaker 3: sale at Barney's.
Speaker 2: Apparently it's it's hard to really hard. He's on the beat,
Speaker 2: he's on the street catching the beat. Yeah, you're welcome.
Speaker 4: No, I like that.
Speaker 3: I I could stand to be done with a lot
Speaker 3: of these storylines.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And I feel like I don't. Kelly is
Speaker 2: just no fun anymore.
Speaker 4: And she's always so combative to Brandon.
Speaker 1: It's like he's so hot storylines.
Speaker 4: She can't have fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, she can't have fun.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: It's like, God, what twenty two year olds are dealing
Speaker 3: with all this?
Speaker 4: That is my question.
Speaker 3: No, I don't know very many twenty two year olds
Speaker 3: that are, first of all, even like dealing with any
Speaker 3: of this, Nor are they like getting the most investigative
Speaker 3: journalistic story on like prostitution in La and the Beverly
Speaker 3: Beat like.
Speaker 4: Feels like the La Times. Maybe it's like a fortyeven
Speaker 4: year old show. I don't know. And they just gave
Speaker 4: you the van that seemed weird. It's like, is she
Speaker 4: licensed to drive that van?
Speaker 2: You don't have to have a special license to drive
Speaker 2: a van.
Speaker 4: Insurance?
Speaker 2: Oh maybe maybe maybe the insurance? Are you covered by
Speaker 2: the Does she work PAM for now?
Speaker 4: I think so? I guess you do.
Speaker 2: Is that what happens that she goes eases into her
Speaker 2: I'm such.
Speaker 3: It was a very pretty woman when that when Donna goes,
Speaker 3: it sounds it seems like he's asking for directions because
Speaker 3: that's literally what happened in Pretty Woman.
Speaker 4: So there was a hint of pretty woman in there.
Speaker 2: The whole thing is grossing me out now that we're
Speaker 2: talking about it. I need to like the people that
Speaker 2: wrote this, the people that wrote this, and the people
Speaker 2: that wrote this I'm just now grossing out about, like
Speaker 2: why why.
Speaker 4: Why are you proved though, like that's.
Speaker 2: This is not this is not right for the show.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like the network was just like whatever.
Speaker 3: You guys want, like because you need get that big
Speaker 3: as you were.
Speaker 2: Do you think the.
Speaker 4: Network's it's like, yeah, do it, it's fine? Why no?
Speaker 2: No, I think they would be more attuned to maybe
Speaker 2: keeping it on.
Speaker 4: I don't know, so I'm asking you.
Speaker 2: Guys, will don't.
Speaker 4: Oh my god? Can we talk about Scott Wolf? I
Speaker 4: love them.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a show about like family and connections
Speaker 2: and there's no darkness, though there's no raper rapistiding in that.
Speaker 3: I think, first of all, I think Bailey became an
Speaker 3: alcoholic if I'm I don't remember how that happens, and
Speaker 3: like their parents died, uh huh, it started dark, but
Speaker 3: it's still were you more Matthew Fox or Scott Wolf?
Speaker 4: I was gonna see them?
Speaker 2: I never the Fox parties, No, I've never.
Speaker 4: I was just I was still with Jeremy London.
Speaker 3: Oh, Jeremy, good good one to good, well done.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't even know what to say about this. I
Speaker 4: don't know what to Wait.
Speaker 2: Who saved David Noah Tory?
Speaker 3: Obviously Noah your boyfriend's boyfriend. That's why he gave that
Speaker 3: glare from the jeep, the red topless jeep, like his
Speaker 3: usual like. First of all, he came with the glass,
Speaker 3: remember he shatters the glass and get out of here
Speaker 3: with the glass, and then obviously he knows David's in trouble.
Speaker 3: He also knows who's been kissing his girlfriend, and so
Speaker 3: now he's going to save the day and steal the girl.
Speaker 4: Hello, that's actually the only storyline I like. I actually
Speaker 4: like the storyline. Okay, I was confused. There's literally again.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no literally nothing else to talk about
Speaker 2: about this episode. There's nothing.
Speaker 4: We're totally going through it one more time.
Speaker 2: I'm trying people like.
Speaker 3: The apartment where Rigs comes in.
Speaker 2: What would that be called the.
Speaker 3: By the way, though, can we talk about the first
Speaker 3: of all, we did talk for you to talk about
Speaker 3: jail when they go to jail, and the guy just like,
Speaker 3: let's you guys take her. But can we talk about
Speaker 3: the other girl's amazing leopard jacket?
Speaker 4: Like the styling on that was.
Speaker 3: I was like, can I just have her leopard jacket?
Speaker 2: See, that's what we want to see totally like what
Speaker 2: would a lady of the evening wear leopard?
Speaker 4: And then it was like, can I just find that?
Speaker 2: Sign me up?
Speaker 4: Totally.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wonder where that jacket was do
Speaker 1: you think she was asked to bring in her own Yes.
Speaker 3: No, I think some stylist styled those ladies of the
Speaker 3: Evening but didn't really you know, gave him like couture.
Speaker 2: No. I think they brought their own clothes in.
Speaker 3: Oh really, like what speaking parts have to bring their
Speaker 3: own clothes?
Speaker 2: Speaking parts? I mean, what did you just call them
Speaker 2: speaking part?
Speaker 3: Speaking parts in the background actor like that girl had
Speaker 3: a lot to do talkies.
Speaker 2: She's in the talkie.
Speaker 4: Moving mouse to sound.
Speaker 3: Come guys, I don't think that those two parts. I
Speaker 3: feel like the stylist clothed them. It was so specific,
Speaker 3: and they had to have the makeup to look beat up.
Speaker 2: I don't know, probably windows.
Speaker 3: I would love that leopard jacket.
Speaker 1: Anyone out there, if you know where that leopard jacket is,
Speaker 1: imagine this actress.
Speaker 4: Wait, who is this actress?
Speaker 3: Well, and it's not the one playing Erica. It's the
Speaker 3: friend of Erica that got like beat up the.
Speaker 4: Home co stars.
Speaker 2: Julie. Is that her name?
Speaker 3: Probably Julie. You know what it's gonna happen. It's like
Speaker 3: I want to purge this episode from my mind, Like
Speaker 3: that's the thing.
Speaker 4: Do it to do this?
Speaker 3: And now I'm like I'm kind of done with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to all delete all.
Speaker 4: Because it's just like, I don't know a six. I
Speaker 4: do love a good mel Silver parents.
Speaker 2: Every time I've had I was thinking, how many times
Speaker 2: have we seen this exact moment from Melsilver?
Speaker 3: What that's giving the money? I wanted him to go like,
Speaker 3: you've squandered your inheritance.
Speaker 2: Your grandpa. It gives him that look of disturbed disdain
Speaker 2: and is like and then we cut into a new scene.
Speaker 3: And then we have the scene where he gives Toy
Speaker 3: the money, Donna the money, and Donna's very like, I
Speaker 3: don't want I will take the money, but I will
Speaker 3: not give you forgiveness.
Speaker 1: That scene really bothered me. Why because I felt like.
Speaker 4: I was like, this is very dramatic, and I'm doing
Speaker 4: a good job.
Speaker 1: If I say it really quietly, Yeah this is me.
Speaker 2: I quite liked it.
Speaker 4: I liked it too. I actually thought you did do.
Speaker 2: I liked it.
Speaker 1: You were quiet, something she's never said ever. Well, I
Speaker 1: like that, I'm quiet. Oh you know you miss me?
Speaker 1: Oh yes, no, I looking at myself. I don't remember this,
Speaker 1: but I know for a fact that I was like, I'm.
Speaker 4: Going to drive this scene home dramatically.
Speaker 2: I felt it.
Speaker 3: I actually feel like you did. I'm not even being
Speaker 3: like sarcastic about it. I actually think you did.
Speaker 2: Was that a choice? Was that a director's like, hey,
Speaker 2: let's try to have that quiet strong now, don't raise
Speaker 2: your voice.
Speaker 1: No, I feel like I was nervous with that scene
Speaker 1: because you know, I always when it was comedy, I
Speaker 1: was always really confident.
Speaker 4: When it was drama.
Speaker 1: It was like in my head from Outsiders when I
Speaker 1: was young, being like, she can't act because she's Sarah's
Speaker 1: Bone's daughter. So I was always nervous. Even through the
Speaker 1: entire ten years. Any drama scene gave me anxiety that
Speaker 1: I wasn't good enough or worthy enough.
Speaker 2: My god, you must have lived in constant anxiety then,
Speaker 2: because you were on a drama.
Speaker 4: Have you met me? He wasn't a comedy, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: so I know that during that I don't I don't
Speaker 4: remember now. I'm sure he wouldn't have given any direction.
Speaker 4: I just know that I was here's what I should do,
Speaker 4: quote unquote in order to make this real? So silly,
Speaker 4: So I liked it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do we have next week? Well, okay, you
Speaker 2: gave it a six amy tour.
Speaker 4: You gave it a six. Give it a four. Oh,
Speaker 4: I was low.
Speaker 2: I was going to get a five, maybe a four.
Speaker 1: You're right, I'm going to give it a three four
Speaker 1: for those booty shorts in the walk in the boat
Speaker 1: up the boat that I.
Speaker 2: Hear a little one butche hanging out a.
Speaker 1: Little bit Jen like you know, I was probably like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, he's looking here. You're like, dude, you
Speaker 1: do but first now I'm doing the wah my god,
Speaker 1: I give this deal.
Speaker 2: Knowing you.
Speaker 1: Yes, I got extreme pleasure out of that next episode. Deadline.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's not paper.
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 2: What's gonna happen? You guys, what's gonna happen? We are
Speaker 2: only on episode eleven? Do we jump shark? Do we just? Does? Omg?
Speaker 3: The podcast just like we're going to keep going into
Speaker 3: this because we've got the Brady Bunch to talk about too.
Speaker 4: So it's fine.
Speaker 2: That is not I don't know if that's enough to
Speaker 2: keep me.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's hall fun to talk about bad episodes than
Speaker 3: good ones.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie, like, if you're listening, keep listening, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: talk about stuff and we can make of it. The
Speaker 4: red Jeep, he's so menacing.
Speaker 3: In his Red Wrangler, so dumb like gives that guy
Speaker 3: a better car to be tough guy in.
Speaker 2: Well, that's our that's our homework. Yeah, to watch.
Speaker 3: I don't mind watching it. It's still very joyful for me.
Speaker 2: Just say, this one really got to the bottom of
Speaker 2: the barrel of my of my joy. Barrel's hard to
Speaker 2: get through. Yep. I gotta be honest.
Speaker 4: I didn't find that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't. There was no beach, there was no like.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Just I'm reading what next week is about and it
Speaker 1: seems to be the same.
Speaker 4: As this same episode.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 4: I thought. I thought so too.
Speaker 2: Maybe we should just do it too fer well, too late.
Speaker 4: Now I've been watch it. Guys, let's be positive. Let's
Speaker 4: be positive season eight.
Speaker 2: Keep me, bring us up Amy here, that's what you're
Speaker 2: here for. Come on, all right, everybody listening. We love you.
Speaker 2: I hope you're week is better than this episode.
Speaker 4: Well said