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Speaker 1: Well, well, well we're back breaking down NBA win totals, baby,

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Speaker 1: and you asked for it. Uh, you got it. We're

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Speaker 1: doing the Southeast Division today. Uh, eagerly anticipated Southeast Division.

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Speaker 1: That's right. You're gonna get to hear about the Wizards.

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Speaker 1: You're going to get to hear about the Hornets with Leacher,

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Speaker 1: reports NBA writer Dampa Valley on today's episode.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jack O'Brien and I no, no, I'm producer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. We got to producer Jabbari in the

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Speaker 1: house on this week's episode.

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Speaker 3: Of Sorry got it, look a hitch. Okay, you be

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Speaker 3: driving Spinny number eighteen. That's good.

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Speaker 4: Secures suck NBA champions.

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Speaker 1: Dan for Valley in the house, not in the valley

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Speaker 1: on Long Island. How are you doing? I am doing wonderful.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing? Good man? We're thrilled to have

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Speaker 1: you here. The wind totals are up. I'm puzzled by

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Speaker 1: a couple of the picks that we've got here. So

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Speaker 1: we're we're gonna we're gonna get into it. But first

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Speaker 1: we got to talk about Shaq V Go Bear because

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Speaker 1: there is so Shack did a complex interview. Uh, like

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Speaker 1: with the with the outlet complex, not like the interview

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Speaker 1: was complicated with somebody who I was like, who is

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Speaker 1: this future looking fellow? And Jabbari in for me it

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Speaker 1: is shack Son and was asked who is the worst

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Speaker 1: all time NBA player of all time? And his answer

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Speaker 1: was Jabbari, Rudy Gobert, good Shack Twitch his son said

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Speaker 1: he's worse than Ben Simmons. Uh Twitch Shack said he's

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Speaker 1: a bum two. But interestingly, he then went on to

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Speaker 1: be like talking. He said, like the reason I walk weird.

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Speaker 1: If you've seen his toes, you understand that there's a

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Speaker 1: very good reason that he walks in a way that

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Speaker 1: looks very uncomfortable. Kitty said he can't turn his head

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Speaker 1: suit because he played for his one twenty and Rudy

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Speaker 1: Gobert he mentioned, uh has two fifty is not playing

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Speaker 1: for his two fifty. I just thought it was revealing

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Speaker 1: I don't know what what do we think is? Is

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Speaker 1: this just you know it? I guess I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't need to know, like a read on it.

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Speaker 1: It's just funny to see how competitive these guys are.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, you know, the funniest thing about guys like Shaq,

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Speaker 5: Guys like magic, guys that make you feel good, you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean, because they're smiling, they're charismatic and

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Speaker 5: all of that. But sometimes we forget even you know,

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Speaker 5: even twenty years after their career, ten twenty years after

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Speaker 2: Know, competitor.

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Speaker 5: And while yes, I do, you know, and Dan, you know,

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Speaker 5: if you want to chime in here and you'll feel free.

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Speaker 5: While yes, I do think that Shaq means it, I

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Speaker 5: also recognize his commitment to the bit because he did this,

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Speaker 5: you know, throughout Dwight Howard's entire career, and you know,

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Speaker 5: being plenty of other bigs you know, you know that

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Speaker 5: that have followed. But basically, it really does feel like

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Speaker 5: it's a it's a bit for me. I don't know

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Speaker 5: if you think otherwise.

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Speaker 6: As a as a colleague of the company that employed

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Speaker 6: I am Team Shack. No, honestly, I don't understand it. Actually,

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Speaker 6: I get if this was a player who was like

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Speaker 1: He still has.

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Speaker 6: I see him on like any live sporting event. He's

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Speaker 1: So I don't, I don't. I guess it could be

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Speaker 6: I just don't understand what he at this point gets

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Speaker 6: have said, like, well, why Shaq like show so out

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Speaker 1: I love Shaq. He's a great character.

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Speaker 6: I just don't understand like what he gets out of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, one hundred and twenty million dollars seems

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Speaker 1: that must be uncomfortable to be inside your head. You know.

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Speaker 6: Do you guys think Shaq would be as revered if

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Speaker 1: I feel like people would hate him.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I think it's tough because I think his

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Speaker 1: I think Shaq would have been even more famous and beloved.

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Speaker 1: Assuming the game was the same as it was in

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Speaker 1: But it sounds like you think the opposite.

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Speaker 2: So dance got shack smoke.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, but well, the other thing you think people

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Speaker 6: There's just like that wouldn't have you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: Oh, just don't get webbing Yama boxing. That would be

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Speaker 1: like he don't even have to leave the Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: I mean she's there's that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's bendy. It would be like watching giraffes fight,

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Speaker 1: girafte fight club that I don't know about it?

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Speaker 2: We don't talk about that.

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Speaker 2: Uh winby versus chat in the post.

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Speaker 1: That's right, all right. Another thing, another little off season story.

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Speaker 1: The NBA's board has expanded the coaches review rules, permitting

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Speaker 1: officials to retroactively call a foul if one takes place

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Speaker 1: on a play that's being reviewed because the ball went

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Speaker 1: out of bounce is essentially what it is. And I think,

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Speaker 1: based on my extensive legal education, this feels like you're

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Speaker 1: reading a legal document, but it seems like it's basically

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Speaker 1: the foul has to have led to the ball going

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Look, I basically think everybody's gonna love it until

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Speaker 5: you know it's used against your team, But if it's

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Speaker 5: used in favor of it's like, good, the right hole

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Speaker 6: I feel like people already hate it based off the

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Speaker 6: Just because I hate the revisionists where people are like, oh,

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Speaker 6: when that's not really how it works.

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Speaker 1: So I like the idea of getting it correct.

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Speaker 6: I do wish they could figure out a way they

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Speaker 6: Like I feel like we could review even more things

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Speaker 6: I'm just surprised that we haven't made that transition yet.

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Speaker 6: So if people want to complain about how their team loses,

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Speaker 2: Well, but I mean, we know how this goes.

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Speaker 5: Those are the same people or you know, a large

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Speaker 5: you know they'll complain about that as well. We complain,

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Speaker 5: That's what we do.

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Speaker 1: My only complaint with this is that, like they're saying

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Speaker 1: the time elapsed between the uncalled foul and the out

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Speaker 1: of bounds violation under review, So like the foul has

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Speaker 1: of bounds. Essentially, I think they should be reviewing all

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Speaker 1: the way back, just like it should be actual like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: game is fifteen seconds in, there's a call, you put

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Speaker 1: I would be satisfied. Hey, call me weird. All right,

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Speaker 1: let let's take a quick break and we're going to

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Speaker 1: come back and talk about the magic. We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about the heat and some big some people that

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Speaker 1: Vegas thinks are gonna take a big leap this year

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Speaker 1: that I can't figure out necessarily why we'll be right

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Speaker 1: back and we're back. Should we just take it in

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Speaker 1: the order that Vegas thinks the Southeast Division is gonna go. Actually,

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Speaker 1: before we get to the Southeast Division. I know, listeners,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to do it to you because you're

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Speaker 1: all saying I don't care about the rest of the NBA,

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Speaker 1: just give me the Southeast Division wind totals. But Dan,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll get to the Eastern Conference equivalent in

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Speaker 1: half wins per draft Kings. They've added KCP, which is

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Speaker 1: seems like exactly what they needed. They needed some shooting,

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Speaker 1: ways with Markel Foltz and Joe Ingalls the clown prince

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Speaker 1: core players Franz and Paolo all Right, KCP, like this

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Speaker 6: I like the KCP signing, but I liked it a

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Speaker 6: They don't get that at all. Even if you think

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Speaker 6: So barring just another demonstrative leap from their top three players,

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Speaker 1: For their offense, Yeah, have measurably improved. I mean Franz

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Speaker 5: And I'm not saying that you're wrong in any way.

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Speaker 5: That's going to be, you know, most right out of

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Speaker 1: And also they could make a trade. It just kind

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Speaker 1: So you're saying they need to resign Markel Folt still

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Speaker 1: high Smith who I love. And then there's the Jimmy

435
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: of it all. Reportedly once another MAX deal. He is

436
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: thirty four, hasn't played in more than sixty four regular

437
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: season games since I don't think this is right, twenty sixteen,

438
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Is that right?

439
00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 2: I think that's right. I looked up.

440
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 6: I mean probably you have the two like shortened seasons

441
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 6: that were seventy two games. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me

442
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 6: at all. Actually didn't play in the postseason last spring.

443
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 6: Now reportedly interested in playing for the Nets if unable

444
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 6: to extend with the heat.

445
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: That one blew my mind.

446
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 6: What really they should wave him if he really wants

447
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 6: to play for the Nets, Just like that's like use

448
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 6: a better teams, Like I would d him to go sign.

449
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: It with the Knicks. Yeah, we would definitely take you

450
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: on the seventy six ers, Jimmy Butler. But the Nets

451
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: is such an like why it seems probably like a gambit,

452
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: Like he's like, well, I'll go to this place that

453
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: has like an even bigger market. Than Miami. Uh, it

454
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: feels like a gambit that would not work with pat Riley.

455
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 5: I don't Yeah, you know, Riles is the last guy

456
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 5: you want to play that game with. I'm sorry, and

457
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 5: I got I'm not even buying into the folklore of it, like,

458
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 5: but just based on how he is negotiating now he

459
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 5: has worked over the last thirty to forty years, I

460
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 5: don't think Riles is gonna even blink at this.

461
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: By the way, the Nets are predicted to win nineteen

462
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: and a half games this year. Last year they won

463
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 1: thirty two, so they're being projected to be they have

464
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: the dead last lowest win total in the entire NBA

465
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: based on you know, Vegas predictions. So maybe he's like

466
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: a Cooper Flag fan. Is that what he loves? Like flag?

467
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: Long game?

468
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: So anyways, forty four and a half wins they won

469
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: forty six last year. I don't know why they would

470
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: be much different other than just the middle class getting better,

471
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: which seems like a good enough reason to me. So

472
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm probably right in there on this one. This feels

473
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: about right.

474
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't like this team particularly, but they as

475
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 6: you mentioned, they won forty six while dealing with a

476
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 6: whole bunch of injuries ye last year. And even if

477
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 6: we assume that Tyler hero On Jimmy Butler miss time

478
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 6: like they always do, you have to assume like Terry

479
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 6: Roziero will be healthier.

480
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: Losing Kayleb Martin hurts. But I like Jack, I really

481
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: like Haywood high Smith.

482
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 6: If Jim Hawkes gets better, so and they should be

483
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 6: really good defensively.

484
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: And if Bam.

485
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 6: Continues to shoot threes like he kind of was with

486
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 6: Team USA, and the line is different obviously for FIBA,

487
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,719
Speaker 6: maybe their offensive ceiling is a little bit higher. That's

488
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 6: that's my biggest question with them is they've been bottom

489
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 6: ten in offense the past two years. They play so

490
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 6: freaking slow, So can they speed it up? Can they

491
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 6: get some rim pressure? But I'm inclined to go over,

492
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 6: but I will admit this is the team I think,

493
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 6: more than any other team in the NBA that I

494
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 6: have such a bad feel for, like what their floor

495
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 6: and ceiling is.

496
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we all do, because the reality is

497
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 5: you look at it on paper and it's like, okay,

498
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 5: I could see this or that, and then they come

499
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 5: out and they just grind their way to forty six

500
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Speaker 5: forty seven wins. Yeah, I'll take deal over there as well.

501
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: It's just injury based basically, and who knows how everybody's

502
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: going to hold up or like how many games everybody

503
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: going to want to play, and whether they're just gonna

504
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: try and grind it out in the postseason as an

505
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: eight seed like they seem to. They're like, that's where

506
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: we want. It's just thinking that we're bad. Okay. Up next,

507
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: we have the Hawks, who got rid of Dejonte basically

508
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: everything else. Intact, their coach is still the bad guy

509
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: from Karate Kid three. They won thirty six last year.

510
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: Vegas has him at thirty three and a half. I

511
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't mind me over here. For some reason,

512
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, the Dejonte experiment with Trey

513
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: didn't work. Bogged On is maybe the person who like

514
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: brings a little Olympic fairy dust back with him. He

515
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: was pretty awesome, seemed to be feeling himself a little bit.

516
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: And I don't know, i've seen Trey. This is probably

517
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: just like traumatized seventy six ers fan in me, like

518
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: from years ago where he just destroyed us. But he

519
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: just he does have a ceiling that. I don't understand

520
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: why he doesn't get too more often, and maybe just

521
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: like letting Trey Cook will lead to a higher win total.

522
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: It feels like a couple of years ago they were

523
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: expected to win like fifty games and then that never materialized,

524
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: and now we're just off them, probably for good reason,

525
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: but I can't quit them. I'm going slide over for

526
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Hawks, what do you guys think?

527
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 6: I mean, they don't have their first round pick for

528
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 6: the next three years, so they have an incentive to win,

529
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 6: which is why be inclined to go over. I do

530
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 6: just worry they're gonna be reliant on at least like

531
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 6: two really young players in Dyson Daniels and Zachary Resische,

532
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 6: and just the learning curve there. I wonder, like, Okay,

533
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 6: how does that look Dyson Daniels great defender if he's

534
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 6: on offense. Zachary Resiche is not like elite at any

535
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 6: one thing. But are you going to ask him to

536
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 6: check elite wings? What does he look like on offense

537
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 6: against NBA length and speed? H So, I just the

538
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 6: offensive ceiling here does feel really high. I just I

539
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 6: still worry about their defense because they don't have a

540
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 6: two way wing like DeAndre Hunters probably the closest state

541
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 6: come and that's, you know, if you really stretch the

542
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 6: definition of of two way. So it wouldn't shock me

543
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,479
Speaker 6: if they were like a thirty one to thirty two

544
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 6: win team. But I think what will help help them

545
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 6: is they're you know, unless something just happens with Trey

546
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 6: and he demands out or something, they're not going to

547
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 6: be a team that trades out of winning games by

548
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 6: season's end because they have no incentive to do so, right, And.

549
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 5: That's exactly where I was going to just quickly ask you.

550
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 5: You know, it feels like, you know, we've heard the

551
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 5: trade young rumors better part of the last two or

552
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 5: three years, you know, honestly, like right after his rookie year.

553
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 5: It feels like, you know, we've been hearing it since then.

554
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 5: You know, why do you think his name is always

555
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 5: on the trade market? And you know what would that

556
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 5: market actually look like for him?

557
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 6: So I think his name's always in the trade market

558
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 6: because based off everything we know is that he has

559
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 6: to be incredibly difficult to deal with. He also plays

560
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 6: a very like grading style on his teammates because he

561
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 6: has the ball so much and if you're Luka Doncic,

562
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 6: that's fine, but we kind of know now that, like,

563
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 6: not everyone wants to play with that.

564
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: Not everyone wanted to.

565
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 6: Play with Pete James Harden and those guys, it's tough

566
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 6: for them to adjust. I actually think of the three,

567
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 6: Luca's probably done the best job adjusting his game, Like

568
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 6: he played a lot faster last year. So until Trey's

569
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 6: want to play off the ball a little bit more,

570
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 6: it becomes harder to build your team around him, especially

571
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 6: when you consider I know, Hawks fans really into like, oh,

572
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 6: he's been trying for like a season and a half

573
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 6: on defense, it really doesn't matter when you watch because

574
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 6: he's just so small. So I think that's a big reason,

575
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 6: and I really honestly do believe he would have been

576
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 6: traded already if that sentiment wasn't held around the league

577
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 6: as well, because like, if you're the Hawks, look at

578
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 6: what the Nets got for Michale Bridges, who has never

579
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 6: made an All Star team, probably needs to be the

580
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 6: third option on a championship team. There's a real chance,

581
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 6: if not a guarantee, that if you traded Trey Young

582
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 6: right now, he nets you substantially less than that and

583
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 6: how do you win that press conference when you already

584
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 6: traded away your first round picks? And so I do believe,

585
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 6: just like I believe the Nets would have traded machal

586
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 6: Bridges even if they never made that Rockets trade, if

587
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 6: there was an offer in line with something like that,

588
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 6: I believe the Hawks would have traded Drey Young already.

589
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. I think my favorite part of that

590
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: is you mentioned him playing off ball.

591
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 5: If I'm not mistaken, I feel like when they got

592
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 5: de Jonte, there was like the Hawks team account put

593
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 5: out a clip of Trey Young playing off ball like

594
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 5: in two possessions over the course of his career and

595
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 5: staying like and they said he couldn't play off ball.

596
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 5: If I'm not mistaken, that day take place, I'm gonna

597
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 5: I'm going to pray that into existence.

598
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: If it didn't, I hope it did. But I was

599
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: in the bag for that pairing, by the way, So

600
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: I was just for.

601
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 6: I look at Trey and I don't actually see a reason,

602
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 6: Like when I look at Harden and he's done some

603
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 6: adjusting with the Clippers some but like when I look

604
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 6: at Harden, I don't see someone who's like, Okay, if

605
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 6: you want to throw the ball on the post or

606
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 6: have them screen. Like I look at Trey and see

607
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 6: someone who should be able to fly around off the ball,

608
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 6: set pin downs for him, shots that way. And I

609
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 6: don't know if he doesn't want to do it or

610
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 6: if they just haven't tried it enough. But you know,

611
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 6: people were thrown up in arms because like his his

612
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 6: like catching shoot frequency that accounted for his possessions went

613
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 6: up by like two percent or something year of the year.

614
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 6: It's like that's not enough to be considered. Oh, I

615
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 6: can play with another ball dominant type playmaker. So I

616
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 6: do believe he could play that way. I just I

617
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 6: guess at this point we just have to default to

618
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 6: he doesn't want to. I'd like, I don't know what

619
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 6: the other year right there would be.

620
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: All right, these are the two that I found a

621
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: little bit confounding. I'm curious to get your read on this.

622
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: We got the Hornets who last year won twenty one games.

623
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: They went twenty one and sixty one. This year they're

624
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: being predicted to win thirty three and a half, gaining

625
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: twelve wins. Their biggest changes they added Alex sar Keishaan

626
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: George and uh the bub Carrington via the draft, A

627
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: cool name traded for Josh Green, signed Taj Gibson. Is

628
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: that toadj the same touch Gibson who's been the league

629
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: the past forty five years? Chiantae Johnson, Musa diabate re

630
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: signed Miles Bridges and Seth Curry. I don't know. This

631
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: is one of the biggest risers in the projected win

632
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: totals this season, and I can't quite figure out why, Like,

633
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: is it because LaMelo is gonna come back and be

634
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: like a big win wins above replacement? Guy? Jabari and

635
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: I were kind of talking about this before we started recording,

636
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: and Jabari looked into it. I guess three years ago,

637
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: LaMelo was healthy and played in seventy five games and

638
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: they won forty three. So is this a situation where

639
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: people are still remembering that and think, God, you know,

640
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: one of these years is gonna be healthy and then

641
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: that's that's when we're all in big, big trouble. Or

642
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: is it just like, what, why would they go from

643
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: twenty one ones to thirty three and a half? That's it?

644
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 6: So I was looking at a fand and they have

645
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 6: the Hornets at twenty nine and a half. That's like

646
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 6: a pretty big difference between market.

647
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and there is like some variants. Yeah, that's DraftKings.

648
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 6: On our end, I'd probably still take the over on

649
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 6: thirty three and a half for the reasons you just

650
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Speaker 6: outlined with if Wamelo's do for a healthy season, and

651
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Speaker 6: I do think he's a very valuable player. I also

652
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 6: think they have sneaky depth on this roster, Like Brandon

653
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 6: Miller was really good on defense last year and he

654
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 6: already kind of had the pull up MIDI going, so

655
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Speaker 6: I think he's someone who will get better. If Mark

656
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 6: Williams is healthy, that's someone who is pretty good. Miles

657
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 6: Bridges is super useful if he's going to be able

658
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 6: to stay on the court. And they have some interesting

659
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 6: backups where okay, or secondary guys where if they're healthy,

660
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Speaker 6: you know, with Josh Green, I'm a big fan Cody

661
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 6: Martin's like before there was Caleb Martin, Like everyone was

662
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 6: up in arms in Cody Martin. That's why he's still

663
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 6: in Charlotte and Caleb isn't, so I don't. I'd be

664
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Speaker 6: curious to see if this could be a team though,

665
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 6: and maybe that accounts for the variants. Are they trying

666
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 6: to bake in like, well, are they a team that's

667
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 6: going to trade out of winning? Because that's what I

668
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 6: can't figure out. Their new regime, the ownership in front office.

669
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 6: They've done everything through like a real long term lens,

670
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 6: especially when you look at last year's trade then line.

671
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 6: And so if the Hornets were on pace to win

672
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 6: like thirty five games in January mid January, early February,

673
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 6: what's to stop them from like, oh, like LaMelo has

674
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 6: some injuries to made up body parts and oh look

675
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 6: we traded yeah Josh Green, or we traded Miles Bridges.

676
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 6: So there's definitely combustibility there. But if you told me

677
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 6: LaMelo is gonna play in sixty or more games, I

678
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 6: think I would take the over here.

679
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's fair.

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00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 5: So you you know, if that were to take place,

681
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 5: you basically have them as taking the biggest leap like

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00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 5: out across the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what did they win last year? They

684
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,959
Speaker 1: were at twenty one twenty one? Yeah, I think that's fair.

685
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 6: Like there, it would not shock me if they had

686
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 6: good health, Like I don't know if they're a five

687
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 6: hundred team, but they seem like a thirty seven to

688
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 6: forty win team. Maybe to be fair, I tend to

689
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 6: be way higher than consensus on LaMelo. Like I think

690
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 6: he could be like a second team All NBA player

691
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 6: next season if he's healthy. I just think he is

692
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 6: so transcendent on the offensive end, and so if he's

693
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 6: going to be on the court, I think they're gonna

694
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 6: win basketball games.

695
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Speaker 1: Is that, like, do the metrics back? Is he like

696
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: a big metrics guy? I actually don't know. He's like

697
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: a big I love watching this guy. I love like

698
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: anytime that there is a LaMelo highlight on my Twitter feed,

699
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: I am slowing down to check it out. Is he

700
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: also like a big wins above replacement guy? He is?

701
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 6: Like so when you do like the breakdowns, like offensively, yes,

702
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 6: but sometimes like there are points where it feels like

703
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 6: he gives back statistically, like just as much on the

704
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 6: defensive end, but offensively, like just when you look at

705
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 6: the assist totals, the scoring, the usage, he is like

706
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 6: a I don't know if I would call him a

707
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 6: stats like an advanced metrics darling offensively, but like he's

708
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 6: pretty close to it, Like those catchalls tend to love

709
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 6: him on the offensive end, all right.

710
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: And finally, we've got to the team that everybody's waiting

711
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: for us to talk about, and that is, of course,

712
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 1: the Washington Wizards, who added Sadik Bay, Malcolm Brogden via trade,

713
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: Jonas Valadchunis sign in trade. They removed the interim label

714
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: from coach Keith and made him the organization's twenty sixth

715
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: head coach of all time. They're expected to go up

716
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: seven wins. So after winning fifteen last year. Yeah, they

717
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 1: won fifteen last year, they're being projected to win twenty

718
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: two and a half. On Draft Gangs or no on MGM,

719
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is another one where I'm like, yeah,

720
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: I could see I mean this one. This is another

721
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: one that feels more like it's just like a reversion

722
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: to the mean, right, Like it's like they were so

723
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: bad last year, things went so badly for them, Like,

724
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: for instance, we were not talking about them in this episode.

725
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: But just as another illustration, they're expecting Detroit to win

726
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: ten more games this year than last year because it's

727
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: just hard to lose as many games as Detroit that

728
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: last year. So maybe it feels like that there's a

729
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: lot of that going around maybe, But what what do

730
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: you guys read on how the Wizards will be.

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Speaker 6: They will finish under I think the front office will

732
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 6: make sure that, like we will see Alex are play

733
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 6: point guard or something wild if they're on pace to

734
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 6: win more than those games. And I think, look, Malcolm

735
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 6: Rockden Good, Kyle Kuzma is good. At least one of

736
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 6: those dudes is getting traded. Yonna Salentunis was signed to

737
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 6: be traded. It really seemed like, Uh, I know that

738
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 6: in the new Lottery odds era, it's more about being

739
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 6: a bottom four team rather than trying to have the

740
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 6: worst record, but this doesn't feel like a team that's

741
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 6: gonna leave anything to chance, like they are going to

742
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 6: be if they are on pace to hit this over.

743
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 6: Will Dawkins and is Good and Michael Winger are going

744
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 6: to make sure that they do not hit the over.

745
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm convinced of that. They're flagging for Cooper in the

746
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: pooper for Cooper. Yeah, in the pooper for Cooper.

747
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,479
Speaker 5: This right here is why I definitely let Dan go first,

748
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 5: because I didn't full disclosure.

749
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: Then you have to give your same take that you

750
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: had heading here.

751
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 5: I was coming in here saying I'm gonna put it

752
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 5: out there I'm gonna put it out there, Dan talk

753
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 5: pay off the ledge.

754
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: No no, no, well, hold on, I didn't say that,

755
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: but he said top four team in the East.

756
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 5: I definitely, I definitely did not say that, but I

757
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 5: will say I like, you know, finally I'm looking at

758
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 5: a roster. I was like, these are NBA players, These

759
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 5: are actual guys that can be developed and be worked with.

760
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 5: I like, you know, I like the fact that they

761
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 5: made you know, coach Keef, you know, like the permanent

762
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 5: head coach or at least, you know, for now, they

763
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 5: remove the interim you know deal. He's you know, he's

764
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 5: got a you know, sixteen year career of you know,

765
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 5: player development, and if ever there were a team that

766
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 5: needs that, this is that team. But I will thank

767
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 5: you because you have talked me out of I was

768
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 5: definitely saying I could see this team win twenty five games,

769
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 5: and I might.

770
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: Have even foolishly, foolishly put some money on you. Oh man,

771
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 2: So wow, So thank you.

772
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: You sound like somebody who like you ever do you

773
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: guys play fantasy Like you ever talk to somebody who's

774
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: like a die hard for a specific team like I

775
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: play fantasy football, And like people will be like yo,

776
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: the fourth string running back for the Chicago Bears. Man

777
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 1: Like people are sleeping on him, but I've been watching

778
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: him in the preseason. He's like really really good. Like

779
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: you sound like somebody who's just like read too much about.

780
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: The said degenerate this you just he sounds like you

781
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: did too.

782
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: Much research on the Wizards, is what it sounds like.

783
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 6: It's been awesome, Like are you employed by the Wizards

784
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 6: trying to increase the trade value? He's guys like that

785
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 6: person in Jack's fantasy league who's trying to sell you

786
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 6: on this poo poo platter of players for yeah, Patrick

787
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 6: Mahomes or something like.

788
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: That's what that's out of.

789
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 6: Like they have actual NBA players, It's like they do.

790
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 6: Who's like the tank commander And there's a chance that

791
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 6: like Bob Carrington or Balakoulabali, who I love the latter,

792
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 6: might just be their best player on the roster by

793
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 6: season's end.

794
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: Like that's that's a pretty wild supposed to be.

795
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 2: Okay, So Jack, I did say Jordan Pool of it all.

796
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: I did acknowledge that nothing against him. I wish well said.

797
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: Pool Party America is being invited to the Pool party again. Uh,

798
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: you know, last year didn't go so well, but this year,

799
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: get ready for some splashback. Yeah, we're back baby. All right,

800
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and when we come back,

801
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: Dan will be in the hottest of hot seats. You

802
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: will be in the midst of the shootout at the

803
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 1: rapid fire Corral. We'll be right back. And we're back

804
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: and Dan. So this is the fastest segment in not

805
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: just basketball podcasting, podcasting in general. We can ask you

806
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: questions you're coming back with just the first answers that

807
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: come out of your brain. Just sounds whatever, It can

808
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: be pre lingual. We just want we want it fast, okay,

809
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: and if you slow it down at all, we will

810
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: blame you and hold it against you. Does that sound good? Yeah?

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00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: All right, Brian, start the clock. I don't like it.

812
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: I don't I don't feel good it does. It's not

813
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: becoming Brian. It's okay. If you don't, you know, do

814
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: whatever you want. All right. We've been asking our guests

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Speaker 1: what is the official state bird of your state? In

816
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 1: this case New York Blue Jay? I have no idea. Yeah,

817
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: we we don't know. We don't care about that. What

818
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: is the unofficial state bird of New York. Uh like

819
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: a probably a crow, black crow. Yeah, okay, yeah, that

820
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: is incorrect. We would accept trash pigeon, big bird, but

821
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,959
Speaker 1: the suit smells like urine or just straight up a rat.

822
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: Any of those would have been okay, yeah, all right, Jabari,

823
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: unto you.

824
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 5: What is your favorite all time throwback shoe and jersey?

825
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 5: And I noticed you got a Team Mac jersey back there,

826
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 5: but would that be in there?

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00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: No?

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00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 6: My favorite throwback jersey would be those Vancouver Grizzlies, like

829
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 6: teal jerseys or just.

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00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: Spectacular yeah with the bear. Oh yeah, they got the

831
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: bear on there.

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00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 6: My favorite throwback shoe, I would be a Team AC

833
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 6: shoe if you guys. I don't remember the actual addition

834
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 6: of it, but it was from Adidas that had like

835
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,959
Speaker 6: the spider web with the blue like it was white

836
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 6: and had like the blue lines that looked like spider webs.

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Speaker 6: It was in all those gop Milk magazine ads. When

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00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 6: I finally topped the pair of those and I was

839
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 6: playing youth basketball, I thought I was so freaking cool.

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Speaker 1: Those those were awesome. Man. I just googled te back

841
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: throwback spider web and Google does not know what to

842
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: do with that. So all right, what's the best slice

843
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: for your money in all New York? Ooh pizza?

844
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 6: Oh no, not cheesecakeney thing about that? Then two Brothers

845
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 6: or two Boots. There's like a place in Rockefeller Center

846
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 6: or something that's the best pizza I ever had. It's

847
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 6: like some home in the wall place. They might be

848
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 6: called like two Boots Pizza or something. Really Rockefeller Center. Hot,

849
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 6: Damn the Rockefellers still doing it after all these years.

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00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 6: All right, that is also incorrect, but I won't get

851
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 6: into it. I'm a fan of John's or Bleaker Street Pizza,

852
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 6: but those are both happened to be around where I

853
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 6: lived when I was in New York, So uh, probably biased, Jabari,

854
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 6: what you got?

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00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: All right? You know we're heading into the year.

856
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 5: We're doing all these fantastic breakdowns Southeast Division, of course,

857
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 5: what is your biggest sleeper team or sleep What are

858
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 5: your sleeper teams heating into the season.

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00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: I just want to pick the Pelicans, so you guys

860
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: could yell at me again like you have the pass.

861
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: I don't know. I kind of like it. I feel

862
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: like people forgot that Dejonte is on the Pelicans.

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Speaker 6: Now they don't have any centers, so it's like easy

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Speaker 6: to forget them against the place center there. I think

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Speaker 6: for the sake of variety, the Houston Rockets have like

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Speaker 6: twenty five guys that belong to an NBA rotation, and

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Speaker 6: I actually think that we're gonna look back on this

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Speaker 6: draft and wonder why Reed Shepherd wasn't taken number one.

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Speaker 6: That guy gives off like Steph Curry vibes and just

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Speaker 6: the way he gets to his mid range, the shooting

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Speaker 6: in general.

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Speaker 1: I think he'll end up being a really good passer.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how much they're going to play him

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Speaker 6: because they have so many dudes, but like Jabari Smith

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Speaker 6: really good, I'm in Thompson really good. They have Shane Goon,

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Speaker 6: Dylan Brooks is a psycho, Tarr Easton is defensive chaos creator.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're interested in.

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Speaker 6: Winning, but they won more. They forty one and forty

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Speaker 6: one or forty and forty two last year. Like that's

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Speaker 6: a team that people don't have penciled into kind of

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Speaker 6: the playing territory or even the top six running. It

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Speaker 6: would not shock me if their offense gets a little

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Speaker 6: bit better. The defense is still elite, and this is

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Speaker 6: a team that we're talking about like late in the

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Speaker 6: year as a as a dark horse.

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Speaker 1: Well he did it, Jabari. I know you said no

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Speaker 1: chance he makes it through another rapid fire round of questioning.

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Speaker 1: But Danny Beans, Dan Favalley, you have done it. You

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Speaker 1: have made it. Thank you so much for joining us

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Speaker 1: once again on Miles and Jack Out, Matt Boosties and

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Speaker 1: sometimes Jabari, Where can people find you? Follow you all

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Speaker 1: that good stuff?

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Speaker 6: They can find all my written work at Leach Report,

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Speaker 6: and I am podcasting always about the NBA at large

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Speaker 6: on the Hardwood NOPs podcast.

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Speaker 1: You can check out all my content there. Thank you

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Speaker 1: guys so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Jabari, where can people find you?

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Speaker 2: I'm easy y at Jabari A Davis all right.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore ol

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Speaker 1: Brian uh and be sure to search hashtag Mad Boosties,

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Speaker 1: for when you search hashtag Mat Boosties. That is going

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Speaker 1: to do it for another episodisode back next week with

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Speaker 1: more NBA and we're only getting closer to the season folks,

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Speaker 1: and another Divisional preview and over under preview. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you all then, Bye bye bye