1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, it's Sophia and welcome back to this very 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: special two part work in progress. Last week, we kicked 3 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: off the new year on w I P with my 4 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: good friend and castmate on good Sam sky P Marshall. 5 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: If you haven't listened already, go check it out because 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: we had such a fun conversation. In fact, Sky is 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: such an interesting human and we had so much to 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: talk about that today you are listening to part two 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: of our chat. I could not bear to edit this 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: episode down because she is magic. You are not gonna 11 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: want to miss this one, because today we dive into 12 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: so much about good Sam and how we ended up 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: working on the show together. Let's get to it. Do 14 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: you want to tell the people how it started? I 15 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: absolutely do. Oh my gosh, okay, how did I become 16 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: Dr Lex? Truly so? As Sophia has shared, I'm from Chicago, Illinois. 17 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: I I was very much obsessed with Chicago Pet solely 18 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: because of Sophia Bush. I don't know what it was 19 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: about you, I honestly don't. I just knew that it 20 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: was like it was a collect It's not one thing. 21 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: There's a collection of things about you that make your 22 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: wholeness so dope from obviously your beautiful, warm face, this 23 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: swagger that you have um that you wouldn't know unless 24 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: you were able to see yourself. You can't even feel it. 25 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: You have this certain you have, like a certain swag 26 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: about you. Then obviously the voice. Then on top of that, 27 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: you're acting skills like it was. It's like layering in 28 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: the smile. It's like layers of thing that Like I'm 29 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: watching and I'm like who is this because I never 30 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 1: watched One Tree Hill, but I got into Chicago Pete 31 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: and I'm like, who is this woman? So I like 32 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: researched you. And then I then started watching some of 33 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: One Tree Hill, and I was like, how did I 34 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: not know about this? And I mean I knew about 35 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: the show, but I just didn't know about you. But 36 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: you just popped and I'm like, I'm in. I'm sold. 37 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: And then like when you left, I was I started 38 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: watching it again and I was just like, good show, 39 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: but not it's not the same show. So I'm just like, 40 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: I'm I'm out. I'm out. So I tapped out. And 41 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: then what year was that that your last season aired? 42 00:02:52,880 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: I left left three months before the Harvey Weinstein story broke. Oh, wow, 43 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: would you look at that? Um. The only reason why 44 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: I asked a year is because cut two, I go 45 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: and do an episode of This is Us. It airs, 46 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: uh fall of twenty when't so my episode airs. I'm 47 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: obsessed with This is Us. So it's great for me 48 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: to be on the show. My episode airs, and then 49 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: the very next episode you air, and I'm like, where 50 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: got there? She goes where been? And I was like 51 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: it's and I was like, this is so cool. I 52 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: had an episode right before, but while awesome moving on 53 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: February eighth of a few months after This is Us 54 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: episode aired November of me and my friend Jania go 55 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: to a it was a Black Aids Institute event in 56 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: Los Angeles for one of our friends, Karama Brown and 57 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: who's being honored. And after the red carpet situation, I 58 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: see Sophia and I say that you need to like 59 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go say something, and and he's like, girl, 60 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: go back. So then I like rush, I like rushed 61 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: to Sophia and like fan girl her really fast her 62 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: face because I knew she was like being like taken 63 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: away because she had to speak and and and the 64 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: ceremony was starting. So anyway, so I like, I gotta da, 65 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: I love you, hones no no no, and like I 66 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: was on this It's us, and then your episode there 67 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: after mine this is us, but like I really loved 68 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: Anna and then she's like, oh my god, thank you 69 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: and like you were so sweet and kind and then 70 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: you were like being pulled off and then you were gone, 71 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: and I was like, did it awesome? I love when 72 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: that happens, when you get to life me someone that 73 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: you're a fan of. Great, let's go inside. That was that. 74 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: That was February eight of two and a half. Three 75 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: weeks later, not even two weeks later. I'm sitting on 76 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: my couch and I opened up Instagram and I see 77 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: Katie Wesh's post that her new series Good Sam has 78 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: Sophia Bush is her lead. And I'm like, stop it. 79 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: And I had worked with Katie once before on her 80 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: pilot in two thousand nineteen that I guess start on 81 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: and didn't move forward, but I stayed in contact with 82 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: Katie because I absolutely loved her, and um, I'm I 83 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: messaged my manager and I was like, hey, have you 84 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: guys read Good Sam? And they're like, yeah, I got 85 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: the script, read it, loved it. Is there anything in 86 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: there for me. Um, there's only one other female lead 87 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: in your age range. Um. And they gave me the 88 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: whole character breakdown and I was like, okay, um, I 89 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: could do that. Did you submit me? And They're like, yeah, 90 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: we submitted you like a few times to casting, but 91 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: didn't hear anything back. And I was like interesting, all right. 92 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: So I just kind of set still and I just 93 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: like just I was like, spirit, I don't know what 94 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm a new tell me what the new here? And 95 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 1: then I was screw it and I pulled my phone 96 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: out and I just messaged Katie directly and I was like, Hey, Katie, 97 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: hope all as well. I just wanted to add congratulate 98 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: you again. I'm getting Sofia push and wondering like could 99 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: you ever see me playing? At the time, the characters 100 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: name was Pappa. And she's like, wait, you're available. I'm like, yeah, 101 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm available. And she's like, oh, okay, Well, I hate 102 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: to do this to you, but can you come to 103 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: CBS today at five thirty? Remind you it's two pm? 104 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god, m M. She's like okay, um, So 105 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: this is for what's called a test, and this is 106 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: where you audition for the studio network executives, it's about 107 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: five or six of them, and just for the people 108 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: listening at home. This skips like the first audition, the 109 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: crawl back the seed, which for some reason casting didn't 110 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: connect with Katie about you don't worry. We've set fire 111 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: to that failed chain since and and so Sky, I 112 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: just need y'all at home to understand is getting this 113 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: information at the last possible stage, which is also the 114 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: biggest deal with three hours to learn a bunch of scenes, 115 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: the hair and makeup, get to get far from your house. 116 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm my neck hurts, just like yeah, 117 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: so I had there's twelve pages of dialogue and um 118 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: so Katie's like, Okay, so you only have to do 119 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: two of the three scenes because they know you just 120 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: got it. And I was like, no, I'll do all three. 121 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: She's like okay, Skuy, but like you don't have to 122 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: like have it all memorized because like again, they just 123 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: they know that you just got it. I was like, no, 124 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: I'll have it all memorized. And she's like, Okay, Sky, Look, 125 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: I really like feel good about this. I'm gonna go 126 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: to bat for you, but I really want you to 127 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: do your best. You don't like you know. I was like, Katie, listen, 128 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: pressure is a privilege. I somehow work really well under 129 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: these conditions. But what you can do is you can 130 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: meet me there an hour early and like we can 131 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: do like a work session that whatever these other girls 132 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: may have, you know, gotten notes on, like we can. 133 00:07:55,480 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: She's like yeah, absolutely, so I'm like great, So I 134 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: grab a friend. I put the friend in the car, 135 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: were running lines as we get to the studio. Run 136 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: line drill line, drill line, drill line, drill lines. Put 137 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: friends in uber since friend home, goes into the studio 138 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: and then do a work session right with Katie and 139 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: Jenny and Joanna, and uh it was. It was incredible. 140 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: It was just magic. You know, it was just real 141 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: magic because I went in there and I just I 142 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: should I told these amazing women. I was just like, 143 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: look um, I've read the character breakdown. I love it. 144 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: I'm kind of here to change your mind about it, 145 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: Like whoever you have coming, I'm sure they are, Pippa, 146 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: but I want to kind of change your mind a 147 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: little bit about about the slice of life of this character. 148 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: And they're like, yeah, let's go, like let's play let 149 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: give it to us, and we did it. So then 150 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: I come out and I see the other two three 151 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: girls there and it wasn't as welcoming as I hope, 152 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: of course. But I sit down and it's game times 153 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: to your executives come in. I am completely frozen in 154 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: fear of the unknown. I don't know what notes. I 155 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: may not remember that they just gave me. In the room, 156 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: Um did I did? I lock the beats and it's 157 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: just a lot, it's overwhelming, and now these suits are 158 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: walking in and these are the money people, so you 159 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: know they're not the creative team for saying so I yeah. 160 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: I went in the room and I had to just 161 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: the narrative in my mind at that time was I 162 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: heard y'all need to me? What's up? I heard y'all 163 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: need to me? Like I just kept saying that in 164 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: my head as if like you need me like you 165 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: asked me. I was supposed to be in the grocery store. 166 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: I had errands to do today, Like what's the emergency? 167 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm here, what's going on y'all? Good? Like that was 168 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: like my mentality and I went in the and went 169 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: in the room like that right, um, with that energy 170 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: and uh, you know. They were like, how are you. 171 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm good, just trying to keep you 172 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: from self and weed. I was like, but y'all are 173 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: in the blessing business, so let's just go in and 174 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: get this going. And I was just kind of and 175 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: I just was laughing at myself because I was hearing 176 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: the matra in my head and it made it fun 177 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: and I just took all the stakes out of it. 178 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: And then I leave out of the room and like 179 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm chatting with the other girls and we're having a 180 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: chat and we're like, oh my god, Pilot season, it's 181 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: so crazy. Pilot season is when all the new shows 182 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: are coming in and everyone's trying to figure out what 183 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: shows are going to move forward or not. Um So 184 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: of course all the actors are being auditioned all over 185 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: the place. So we're just talking about like, oh my god, 186 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: it's just so stressful, all right, And I'm like, yeah, 187 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: I know, it's crazy. So we're all like throwing our 188 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: audition paper in the trash that have all the lines 189 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: and our notes and stuff on it. And I say 190 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: to them because they were actually like pretty nice, and 191 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, wish was like a 192 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: picture together because I was totally going to send this 193 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: photo to Katie with me like in the middle, because 194 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: like my petty chakra lit up in this moment for 195 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: whatever reason. So like we take a photo together, and 196 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: as we're taking the photo, I get that text pop 197 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: up and I see Katie's name with a bunch of 198 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: caps in emoji. So I hurry up and swipe it 199 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: because the two girls could see my camera because I'm 200 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: about to take a selfie. So then I take the 201 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: selfie and then I'm like, okay, guys, when my god 202 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: was so nice meeting, you can walk crazy. And then 203 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: they walk away. I opened my phone and I like, 204 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: hurry up and read it, and it's Katie and it's 205 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: all caps. He was like, you killed it. They loved you. 206 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: We'll see you Monday for the network test. Network test, 207 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: which is like another fifteen executives, but now from the 208 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: network of CBS. So I'm like, oh my god, Oh 209 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: my god. And then I waited to make sure the 210 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: other girls were gone, and then I went in the 211 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: trash and I got my audition lines out and like 212 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: hop in the car, like I need these notes, as 213 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: I need all these notes. I got in the car 214 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: and then UM and then that weekend it was go time. 215 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: But when I when I got home after that experience 216 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: that night, I sat back on the couch and I 217 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: was like, what just happened? Four hours ago? I was 218 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: scrolling Instagram, procrastinating from doing errands today, and now I'm 219 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: back on the same couch four hours later. But I 220 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: just did a studio test for Sophew Bush and CBS. 221 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: Because let me remind you, CBS was on my very 222 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: first vision board, right and my very first apartment was 223 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: on Radford, across the street from CBS. So here I 224 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: was with my secret. I had the whole starter kid 225 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: of manifestation. I had my crystals and my angel cards, 226 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: and I could see CBS Network. So I said, I 227 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: wanted to be a series regular on a CBS show, 228 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: and I want to be in a medical drama. And 229 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: I went and I got head shots. You've seen the 230 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: head shots. My head shots are me and scrubs. And 231 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: I was sitting on my balcony looking at CBS and 232 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: then I realized I manifested an extra job for a 233 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: year on c S I New York, and that's where 234 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: I learned best ficity. I said, I actually manifested what 235 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: I asked for, but I wasn't specific about it. So 236 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: that's when I learned, like, okay, I gotta get very 237 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: even more clear on what I want. So now here's 238 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: the moment has now come back ten years later CBS, 239 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: except now Sophia Bush and it's a medical drama. Come in, 240 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: I do the network test, I have fun with it. 241 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: I'm out and I'm waiting that it's a Monday, which, 242 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: as you know, Sophia, every hour of waiting to see 243 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: if you got a job or not is like a debt. 244 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: And so I hear nothing on Monday. Afterwards Tuesday, I 245 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: hear that the other girls out, but I have to 246 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: do a chemistry read with Sophia Bush. And I was like, say, less, 247 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: when do I show? And then I'm debating my whole way. 248 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: They're like, do I tell her that I was the 249 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: crazy fan who the beautiful girl in the white suit 250 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: fum rushed her and completely because again this is just 251 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: my head playing tricks on me. But I'm like, that's 252 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: gonna make me a fan and not like an actor. 253 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: And then the other side was like, no, you should 254 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: be a professional actor meeting a professional actor, and I 255 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: was like that sounds boring, So yeah, I was like 256 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: screw it. So as soon as I came in the room, 257 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: I was just like I'm the girl. And then you 258 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: were just like oh oh yeah, oh my god. Yes, 259 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: So like that to me helped just break the ice, 260 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: Like I felt like, at least for me, I just 261 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: kind of like relaxed and exhaled, and I looked at Katie, 262 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: and Katie knowing me now for a year, just kind 263 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: of gave me this nod of like do it all right? 264 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: And I remember you and I having this physical play 265 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: in the room, like and I remember you accidentally dropped 266 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: a line and I was like, okay, come on now, 267 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: I'll get it together. This is actually your audition, not mine. 268 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: And we were just like it was just so playful 269 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: and fun in the room. And and I left there thinking, 270 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: if it's not me, they better be casting a man. 271 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: It has to be something so outrageous it better not 272 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: not be me. It was. It was just like a 273 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: dream opportunity right there, so close that I could taste it, 274 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: and here I was the next No, two days had 275 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: gone by, now I haven't heard anything, So now I'm 276 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: ready to like cry into my pillow. And tear down 277 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: my good sam shrine that I built. And um, I'm 278 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: sitting in an audition room having to now audition for 279 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: something else. And I came out of the audition and 280 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: I got the call from Katie. And when I answered 281 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: the phone and she said it, I sprint in heels 282 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: down the side walking studio city, screaming at the top 283 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: of my lungs. And then I'm just like besides myself 284 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: and I can't wait to just harry up and get 285 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: off the phone with her so I can call my mom. 286 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: And I called my mom and I just burst into tears. 287 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: And she knew I was waiting, so she knew with 288 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: me calling and crying, she already knew, Like is this 289 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: happy tears? The sad tears like she's trying to read. 290 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: But it's like it was like ugly cry. It wasn't 291 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: like we did it, Joe, you know what I mean? 292 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: We did it? But yeah, and then and then I 293 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: just stood on that sidewalk and I savored the moment 294 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: because I realized from this moment on, I I'm officially 295 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: a series regular actor. Like I can never not say 296 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: that I hadn't had a series regular no matter what 297 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: happened with the pilot and um, and then I d 298 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: M you because I didn't have your number yet and 299 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: uh and yeah, and it's been a love story since. 300 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: I love that. It's one of my best stories of 301 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: of getting a role because I don't have an agent, 302 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: I don't have a talent agent. And while my manager 303 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: is absolutely brilliant, nothing can compare to me really being 304 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: obedient to whatever this magical spiritual energy is that is 305 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: this force field, the universe, God, whatever anybody wants to 306 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: call it. It's so real and so effective if and 307 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: when we are able to just be still and tap 308 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: into it and just plug in, you know, it's such 309 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: a resource for me. And if I ignored that push 310 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: to reach out to Katie, I wouldn't be sitting here 311 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: with you right now, you know what I mean. And 312 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: here I was judging Instagram like I need, I should, 313 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: I should, I should be spending less time on Instagram. 314 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: Had I not been spending time on Instagram to even 315 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: see that post, to be able to be there within 316 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: that three hour window for that opportunity, you know what 317 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: I mean. Like, it's just it blows my mind and 318 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: it makes me. It makes life fun for me, it 319 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: makes life so fun. It feels like a riddle. So 320 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: every day I wake up with a mentality of expectancy. 321 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm expecting God to just play. Something's gonna happen, some 322 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: play is going to take place. I don't know what 323 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: it may be, but you know, it just makes it 324 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: makes things very fun in life, I will say, And 325 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: it makes it less. It makes it easier for me 326 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: to not take so many things personally, you know, because 327 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: whatever I'm supposed to experience, I'm supposed to experience. Whether 328 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: it feels good or not, it's my experience. Um and 329 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: then whatever someone else is supposed to experience, that's theirs. 330 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: But it's not for me to ingest everything and take 331 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: things so personally, because, as you know, as an artist, 332 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: we are extremely sensitive, but paradoxically we have to be 333 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: very strong because you have to take on the nose 334 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: for years, you know, or take on the critics, or 335 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: take on the fill in the blanks. So to be 336 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: sensitive and strong simultaneously going through the experience and make 337 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: time to be authentic and enjoy the journey like that 338 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: has just been the balance for me. Is balancing that 339 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: and allowing it all to just run his course. But 340 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: I do have fomo, so we all do. Okay, what 341 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: was on the vision board? Up? So did you put 342 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: the picture of you the head shot in your scrubs 343 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: on the vision board? Well, not on the vision board, 344 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: but the scrub headshot was next to the vision board. 345 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: I had a logo, legit logo of CBS. I had 346 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: a legit logo of um Netflix on there, which the 347 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: Netflix job got me. You know, the uh, the noise 348 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: if you will for more opportunities, um Katie knew I 349 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: was on Sabrina. Like everything on that vision board. When 350 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: I think about it now, I mean, I'm like ten 351 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: vision boards later, because I still do vision boards should 352 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: do for this year, let's do it. I love vision 353 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: What went on the Good Samshrine? Oh, the Good Sam Shrine. 354 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: There's one thing that I know. I'll never tell you 355 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: that I love it the most. You you don't have to. 356 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: I think it's the cutest. I just love your depth 357 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: of research. But what else it? Because I'm like a psychopath, 358 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: I don't think you know what it is. I call 359 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: it my lab, right, So like for me when I'm 360 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: when i'm creating a goal, when I'm creating, when i'm 361 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: co creating um and a life experience, if you will. 362 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: My bedroom starts to turn into what I what I 363 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: like to call a lab. My bedroom. The walls are 364 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: not so much decorated for anyone else. It is there 365 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: so that I can constant remind myself on what am 366 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: I laser being focused towards. So yeah, I had CBS logo, 367 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: had a Netflix logo. I had a like one of 368 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: those cute buffalo houses in l A, like a you know, 369 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: three bedroom, cute little um. I had one on Love 370 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: and Relationship, which it was like, you know, happy couple, 371 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: but then also like a photo of a couple that 372 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: are clearly working through something, you know, because I don't 373 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: want to. I don't need to be happy one of 374 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: the time in a relationship, like also be able to 375 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: challenge me and make me have to like see my 376 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: put the mirror up right, Let's grow together. And then 377 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: I had the Health and Wellness Staff, which you know 378 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: work in progress, um forever and uh. And then I 379 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: had the had one that was like it was a 380 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: photo of an eyeball um, but but the universe it 381 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: was kind of like was an eye like so it's 382 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: like a very spiritual um image of just like spirit 383 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: of just like staying open um to receive, but also 384 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: being obedient when it's time to like move, act or do. Um. 385 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: That was yeah, So that's usually and then the family 386 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: photo one. So that's usually my vision board. I like 387 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: my vision board to not just be career oriented. It 388 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: also has to be my health. It also has to 389 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: be my finances, my love and relationship, my spirituality, and 390 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: my family. Yeah, which also good Sam has pulled from 391 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: that first vision board as well with family, because now 392 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: I get to have a relationship with my father, who 393 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: I did not have a relationship at all with before 394 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: because he's very much like Griff, like he he can 395 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: only really have a relations and ship as a doctor. 396 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: So he keeps texting me like need any help, need 397 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: any help. I'm like not good, good with today's scenes. Um. 398 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: And then but then sometimes I'll send him scenes that 399 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: I don't need help with, just to stimulate them and 400 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: get them all excited and to just hear his voice 401 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: and like we just now we get to like talk 402 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: for hours and have fun. So like that's a huge 403 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: long term goal that has also manifested because of this 404 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: opportunity that um just makes my heart explode. More than 405 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: I can even muster words for like, I can't even 406 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: put it into words. It's in it's insane, like I'm 407 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: still processing at all, like having so many different things 408 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: manifesting at the exact same time. That was a ten 409 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: year old goal. But again, I love, I love to 410 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: be frank about what it takes to get to this moment, 411 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, relationships for me well, and just the amount 412 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: of work, the work on the relationships that is work 413 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: for me, not like work like I don't want to 414 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: do the work. I actually really do love the people 415 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: that I admire in the industry. And as you know, um, 416 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: I love staying in contact with people, even if I 417 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: don't even know them. I'll find them on like social 418 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: platforms and I'll just follow their work. There are my 419 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: of course, personal relationships. That's one thing I just have 420 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: to show up and be present and be and be 421 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: and that not having an agent has required me to 422 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: really work and hone in on relationships in the industry 423 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: and that's where I have I was I honestly, I 424 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: would say, yeah, I've definitely kind of mastered that at 425 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: least for me because I can look at my results 426 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: and if it wasn't from my relationship with Katie, we 427 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: wouldn't be sitting here. Um. If it wasn't from my 428 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: relationship with Karamo, I wouldn't have met you, which I 429 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: do think created some kind of energetic pool that got 430 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: me into that room. Who knows, right, Like, we don't 431 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: know what's behind the curtain in Oz, but what happened 432 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: with us that would never make sense to me, the 433 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: timing of that wild that would that would never make 434 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: um when not your resensance to me, but hey here 435 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: we are so but yeah, no when you say that, 436 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: you you like the frank um response around like how 437 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: did we get here here? Meaning no, I just I 438 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,239 Speaker 1: just mean like to this point in the journey, you know, 439 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: like even for me when people ask me about what 440 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: they admire or see in my career and then say, 441 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: you know, and it all seemed to be great or 442 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: what I'm like, it's this to twenty years to be 443 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: right here where I am right now, you know, it's 444 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: it's a it's a big, long journey and you've got 445 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: to be in it, you know, for for the beginning, 446 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: all the way up the climb. And I think I 447 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: always want to be frank with people like our our 448 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: job is all peaks and valley. It's not like the 449 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: corporate world where you do a steady climb forever. And 450 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, I think I think it requires gumption 451 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: and faith and incredible emotional availability and a tough skin. 452 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: It's it's a lot of things that don't feel like 453 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: they go together. You know, you're spinning a lot of plates. 454 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: But I think that when it's the thing you love, 455 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: you know, you said it, you wanted to be on 456 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: a medical drama from the beginning. I've always loved this genre, 457 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: like I love a family drama, I love a medical drama, 458 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: I love um and you know, I love sort of stranger, 459 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: slice of life things that I get to go and 460 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: do and like that independent world. But there are certain 461 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: things that work because they allow us to go through 462 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: the doorway of feeling. And I think that's what a 463 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: hospital is for sure. You know, how does it feel 464 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: different now compared to the years that you have been 465 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: in this industry? What makes this year different? And like 466 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: feeling wise, I mean, how do you feel the whole 467 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: thing feels different? You know. My first job was just 468 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: like I was out hustling, going on hundreds of auditions 469 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: a year, and I booked this show, and we never 470 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: knew it was going to be a big deal, let 471 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: alone a hit, let alone last for a long time. 472 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: But when you kind of have like lightning in a bottle, 473 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: you you you ride it, you don't like jump off 474 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: that train. Looking back, I realized what was really not 475 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: okay about it, especially in terms of the way that 476 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: we as young people were being treated. Um and so 477 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,239 Speaker 1: it's like it's it's been a mixed bag of like 478 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: joy and pain for all of us. You know. It's 479 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: why me and the girls decided to do the other podcast, 480 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: to do Drama Queens, because we were like, we gotta 481 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: we gotta throw the trash out. And when you have 482 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: nine years of trash but also nine years of beautiful moments, 483 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: like it's a really confusing relationship. It's kind of like 484 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: being in an abusive relationship. And we were like, how 485 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 1: do we how do we take the garbage out and 486 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: just remain in love? Like we have this opportunity to 487 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: do that, But it's certainly as an artist, can contain 488 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: your relationship to your career. And it's taken me until 489 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: my adulthood to understand that some of that stuff has 490 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: almost made me inclined to reject success because I don't 491 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 1: trust did and I went to a more successful world. 492 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: I went and did my show in Chicago, and it 493 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: got worse, like so much worse. But I had this 494 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,959 Speaker 1: group of people who I really loved. But then I 495 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: also experienced like real abuse and violence at work, and 496 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: the people I loved didn't have the tools to stand 497 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: up for me, and we're also very afraid that they 498 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: were going to lose their jobs. And so again there 499 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: was love, but it was really violent, and so I 500 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: needed for me, I needed space from all of it. 501 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: It's like when people go through a bad relationship and 502 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: then they give up dating, you know, you're like, I'm 503 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: gonna be celibate for a year, like I'm out of 504 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: the game, which I also highly recommend um. But I 505 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: was like, I'm going I'm not going to do this 506 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: for a minute. I have to do something completely different 507 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: for a minute. And for me, I felt like service. 508 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: That was like I'm going to go work for a 509 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: bunch of nonprofits and a bunch of community organizers, and 510 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to go work on an election, and I'm 511 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm just going to go to work for the people, 512 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,719 Speaker 1: and like that's just what I'm gonna do. And so 513 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: I would do a project here, I would do a 514 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: movie there, but I didn't do anything that took ten 515 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: months of my year because I needed to do the opposite. 516 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: And and then, you know, I developed the show that 517 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: I really loved, but it was not the right time. 518 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: I mean, and even we knew it. We were like, 519 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: oh man, we developed this show that was written before 520 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: the election, and it's all about like foreign government interference 521 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: in the United States politics, and like we were like, 522 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: it's too close to home. We're all traumadized, Like we 523 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: don't even want to watch this show right now. I think, 524 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, I had things been different, that show probably 525 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: would have gone. But again, nothing will miss you. And 526 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: this was for us, so I couldn't do that job, 527 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: so I could do this job. And and that was 528 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: an experience, Like you said, if you can learn when 529 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 1: you quote unquote lose, you're not losing yourself. And I 530 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: think that if you always get what you want, you're 531 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: probably pretty bored. So that was a really cool experience 532 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: where I just got to learn and learn, learn, And 533 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: then it really prepped me for this. When I took 534 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: my first meeting with Katie, and she pitched me four 535 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: scripts she was working on in twenty nineteen. Yeah, I 536 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: remember when she was like, what was it September and October? 537 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: She had like three press releases of three different shows. 538 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: I was like Jesus, she was just working like crazy, 539 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,719 Speaker 1: and I was like, how is she going to do this? 540 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: And then sort of similarly to you, by the way, 541 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: like somebody screwed up and I was told I was 542 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: going to get this script as soon as it was ready, 543 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: and then Katie heard that I just hadn't read it yet, 544 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: but nobody had sent it to me, so she thought 545 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: I was like blowing off the show, and I was like, 546 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: where is my script? And so then everyone kind of 547 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: figured it out and it was can you test tomorrow? 548 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: And I was like, but same exact experience as you. 549 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: I at least got a night to sleep on it. 550 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: But I was like, yep, sure can and I'll be 551 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: off book and it's five scenes watch me. Because I 552 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: was like I know this woman already. I know Sam 553 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: and this is mine and you know me, like I'm 554 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: the most self dowdy, self loathing, confused, anxious person on 555 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: the planet. I'm very if it's for us I'm like, 556 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: this is what we're doing, like if we're protesting, if 557 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: we're doing election work, if we're I'm doing it. But 558 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: when it's for me, I'm always like, no, I'm so sorry. 559 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: I think I'm in the way. I'll just move. And 560 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: I was like, this is mine, it's mine, like I 561 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: knew it was mine, and and yeah, I just went 562 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: in and I did it. And then I did the 563 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: final tests for all the suits in the room. And 564 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: then when they were reading you and Edwyn and Travis 565 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: and all the other actors they read for the show, 566 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm coming in to read everybody. And 567 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: they were like, oh, no, you don't have to do that, 568 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: and I was like, no, no, I'm coming in to 569 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: read everybody because this is the tone I want to 570 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: set on this show. Because everybody always says, well, the 571 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: number one, the number one, the number one. All the 572 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: number one is responsible for doing is setting a tone. 573 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: And my tone is a team tone. I don't I 574 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: like to be a team leader, but I don't like 575 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: to be the one in charge. I want us to 576 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: be a team. And so for me it was so important. 577 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: Katie and Jenny and Joanna already felt like my team, 578 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 1: and I was like, no, I'm coming in when the 579 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: cameras aren't on, when no one will know we did 580 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 1: this us. I'm going to come in and read every 581 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: single person who's up for every single job because it's 582 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: a sign of respect. And they were like okay. Everyone 583 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: was kind of like whoa wow. Alright, wait. So when 584 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: that happened, I was always curious, was that meant to 585 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: happen before? Does that usually happen before testing or does 586 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: that usually happen after the network? The studio and the 587 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: network already see the talent, so they were into testing 588 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: for your role already, and it was it was all 589 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: happening in the same week, me and you. Everything was 590 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: happening at the same time, these these characters. And so 591 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: once I was set, I was like, this is what 592 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: I want to do. And they said, oh, well, we 593 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: tested people for the role of Pippa, which became lex 594 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: and and they were like, but we have a favorite. Well, 595 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: will you come to a chemistry read just with one person? 596 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: And I was like yeah, obviously, And then I went 597 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: in and I read everybody for Malcolm and everybody for 598 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: Caleb and everybody like I went and read lots of 599 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: people for all the other parts, but you were you 600 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:14,479 Speaker 1: were always the only legs. Oh I love that. Yeah, 601 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 1: and I just like, I guess I tell that story 602 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: in this moment to illustrate how it feels different. It's 603 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 1: in the bones of this project. Everything about this is different. 604 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: The way the women at the Helm run it. Everybody's happy, 605 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: and not just the women, which like l O L. 606 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: People are like, what's it like to have a show 607 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: run by women? And I'm like, it's just amazing that 608 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: it's not even about women, it's amazing for everybody. Like 609 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 1: that's actually the point of equity is that everybody gets 610 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: to be happy, and like nobody even really notices it 611 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: until we have executive meetings and they're like, wow, look 612 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: at all the ladies at the table. This is cool, 613 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: Like they forget. It's just everything is so good. Our 614 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: set is happy, people are laughing, They feel appreciated. Like 615 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 1: we as a cast are amped. We love our jobs, 616 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: and we as a cast we're lucky. I mean, obviously 617 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: the timing was, but during that break from work, we 618 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: were able to create real relationships, and I I believe 619 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: that that's what shows up in that pilot. Most pilots 620 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: when they are filmed, the actors get to know each 621 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: other for maybe a week and a half two weeks 622 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: prior to filming, and now they have to portray the 623 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: bestie or the boyfriend or the father or you know. 624 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm obviously heartbroken for the pandemic, but grateful for the 625 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: time that we were able to share prior to filming 626 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: that pilot, because when I watch the pilot for now 627 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: the seventh time, I still just beam because me having 628 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: a personal experience knowing all of our friendships, I can 629 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: see it. I can see it on the screen even 630 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: in the pilot, and the audience has no idea what 631 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: they're in store for, you know. It's just like I'm 632 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: so excited to see each episode following. And I've had 633 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: so many people that are actors and are professional actors 634 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 1: that are working on shows that have messaged me over 635 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: the time saying, like, my cast does not hang out 636 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: like you guys do, like waiting, like you guys are 637 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: always hanging out, Like I can't get my cast to 638 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: get together, or I can't get my cast to do 639 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: things um together, And I'm like, are we is this 640 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: not normal? Because we like it feels just so right, 641 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: um well, but we have something very switch, we really do, 642 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: and that's part of it. That's why it feels different. 643 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: It's not always like this, but but we have fostered 644 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: an environment together as a team, and you know, I 645 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,399 Speaker 1: think there's something really special in the fact that you 646 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: and me and Edwin and Jason, like we all had 647 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: that year and so in in that year of relationship, 648 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: we were able to welcome Dobvy and Michael and Omar, Like, 649 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: isn't it crazy to think they weren't with us, No, 650 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: it's insane, But they feel like they've been here the 651 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: whole time. Yeah, But even from shooting the pilot February 652 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: of February March of and not starting production until October, 653 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: I know, we were still able, Like I was like 654 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,240 Speaker 1: having dinner at Dobby's apartment and Dobby and I were hiking, 655 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: like still had months to really get to know each other. 656 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 1: Even with Omar and Dovey. You know that a lot 657 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: of people really even get that because with the pilot 658 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: once once you just once you find out that the 659 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: pilot is getting picked up, you're shooting in July. You know, 660 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: everything worked, it worked on everything worked out really really great. 661 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: And you know, to quote the great Chasing Isaac's. You know, 662 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: they may be able to control how long we shoot this, 663 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: but we control how we shoot this and and how 664 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: we have created this experience as just truly, deeply been 665 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: a dream come true. I wish that I can just 666 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: record every minute of it so I can watch it 667 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: when I'm in my eighties and just just sit and 668 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,439 Speaker 1: watch all of these moments. I am going to dust 669 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: my camera. I'm gonna start bringing my camera around more, 670 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: my professional camera. I know. I was thinking the same thing. 671 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: Actually over the holiday, I put mine in my carry 672 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: on bag. I charged it up. I was like, I gotta, 673 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: I gotta be better about this. But it's interesting, like 674 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,760 Speaker 1: I love that we have had this whole experience together 675 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: and that we're sharing in the magic of it, Like 676 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,959 Speaker 1: this is a dream come true for me. Yeah, even 677 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: after all this time doing all this work, like this 678 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: is a dream come true. This one. It's pretty unbelievable. 679 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 1: Tell me about it. It's I just I'm just realizing 680 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: that I'm having the same experience that you are, and like, 681 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 1: what a what a privilege it is that we all 682 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: get to experience it in this way, and like, whether 683 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: it's your first series, regular or not, like this is magic. Yeah, 684 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: it's magic. I love it. And I I think about 685 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: the opportunities to be here for each other, Like we've 686 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: been through like all the highs and lows together, you know, 687 00:40:52,719 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: like we were supporting each other through family stuff and act. Yeah, 688 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 1: like we threw barbecues and we also marched for months. 689 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: Yes we did, you know. And and I just so 690 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: value the the reality of friendship that wants to show 691 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: up in every circumstance. I remember watching you watch the 692 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: crowd on the day that the protests started at the 693 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: Pacific Park. Yeah, that was that was wild for me. 694 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: It was it was incredible. That was a wild for me. 695 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,720 Speaker 1: It was my first protests, like a real like pulling 696 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: of my heart strings and her freedom writer protests that 697 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: I've shown up to on fire and uh and you know, 698 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 1: had a couple of Sabrina cast members with me and 699 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: then and then my future cast member with me. It 700 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 1: was just like, Oh, we're gonna bring this all together, 701 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: and we're gonna go out there and we're gonna you know, 702 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: and then we got to that corner and yeah, just 703 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: looking around it was I was it was like I 704 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: wish that my mom had been standing there because she 705 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: would she she's never seen anything like that. It's just 706 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: as far as my eye can see, from the alleys 707 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,479 Speaker 1: to the streets, to the park to the hills, it's 708 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: just hundreds of white people just angry, just furious, furious, 709 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 1: And it was just great to see that I needed 710 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: because we were in the prime lockdown time. I needed 711 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,720 Speaker 1: to get out of my house, stop watching the news, 712 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: turn the phone off, and see it and feel it. 713 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 1: And I did, and it was shul It was soul shifting. 714 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: And I remember after I like picked my job I did, 715 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: I looked at you and you were already looking at me, 716 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: and I was like, Sophia, and then like and you 717 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: were just like nodding your head like yeah, this is happening, 718 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: and yeah. Then I just burst into tears and that 719 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: was Yeah, That's definitely a day I'll never forget. That 720 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 1: was wild. That was um spiritually wild for me. And 721 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: I love that you were there for that and so 722 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: many other moments after that. One thing I will say, though, 723 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: my first experience of having and actor not just think 724 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: of self is you like when they the first instance 725 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: when they reached out wanting to interview for the Hollywood 726 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: reporter on all of the protesting and and the elections, 727 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: and you were just like, yeah, I'll do it if 728 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 1: Sky Marshall can be interviewed as well. And I'm like 729 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: what what what what? And you know, and I was like, 730 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like what like you put your you 731 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: were willing to not do it if they didn't interview me. Yeah, 732 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: I care, like I want you have to interview you 733 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: if they're gonna interview me. Like that was powerful. And 734 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: you've done that a like a few different times, even 735 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: like little subtle things that you may do. I pay 736 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,399 Speaker 1: attention to and I notice it, like when I talk 737 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:13,879 Speaker 1: to people about you, because they asked me, like, what's 738 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: it like to wear a suffing your blush? And I 739 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 1: do tell them I like, the woman is a humanitarian 740 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: first and the act or second, like she thank you. 741 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: She does not take any of this for granted. But 742 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 1: you also you know the value of passing batons, You 743 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 1: know the value of delegating. You know the value of 744 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 1: power and how to not abuse it and and able 745 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: to check the people that do whether they're abusing the 746 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:52,240 Speaker 1: power of privileged, the power of economy and power of politics. Whatever. 747 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: You know, you're really good at at making sure that people, 748 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: at least I can speak for myself, have equal opportunity 749 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: to shine, and that especially during the Black Lives Matter protests. 750 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: With that interview, that was the first where I was like, what, like, 751 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: I've just never had an actress or act or act 752 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: or period ever do that, not just for me, but 753 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: with other actors as well. It's usually very much. I 754 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: have to go and do all these things. I'll call 755 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: you guys later, you know. So thank you for all 756 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: of that. Thank you for for being so so sofia 757 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 1: ish so bushy, thank you, um goodness. I'm really working 758 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: on taking love in. I can tell I'm watching your 759 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: eyes process it and then you're rubbing your ear. But 760 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're gonna receive this whether you or not. 761 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: I know, it's probably funny for some people to hear 762 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,080 Speaker 1: because they assume that in our you know, position and 763 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 1: our profession, we're always receiving, receiving. I'm always out putting 764 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 1: and I'm really trying to learn to receive. And that 765 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 1: was very touching. Thank you, You're welcome, my low. Um. 766 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: This is probably why I'm not good at receiving comments, 767 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 1: because they hit me really hard and then I cry, 768 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: that's that's that's really Yeah, that's a good emotion. I 769 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,879 Speaker 1: cherish that. Thank you. It's funny, I I it's it's 770 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 1: interesting because I don't think I ever would have told 771 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: that story because I'm like, what am I going to do? 772 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: And be like, well, white people, because this is an 773 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,760 Speaker 1: example of how you could be an ally like God, 774 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: it's so insufferable, um, but it's it's special to hear 775 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,359 Speaker 1: you tell it because it does make me realize that, 776 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: Like that was my first thought that day. Like when 777 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: I got the all and they said they want to 778 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: talk to you about being there, I was like, well, 779 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm in sure, but this is dumb. I'm not the 780 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 1: person who supposed to be centered here, Like and I 781 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: want I want to encourage people to read this, but 782 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: also the only way I'm going to walk through the 783 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: door is if my friend gets to walk through the 784 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 1: door with me, Like I want I want to know 785 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,439 Speaker 1: what her experiences. It's her story I want to read. 786 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:30,879 Speaker 1: And yeah, I I think that that instinct. Really, it's 787 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,720 Speaker 1: like it's more than an instinct for me. It feels 788 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: like a calling, like I can't imagine, Like when people say, 789 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: why can't you just be an actor. Why do you 790 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,879 Speaker 1: have to be all political? I'm like, because you think 791 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna blow the privilege of having a megaphone and 792 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: not use it to advocate for other people, Like when 793 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: our crews are fighting for better treatment, you think I'm 794 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 1: not going to do an Instagram live to talk about 795 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 1: ship I've witnessed on sets and like also to be 796 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 1: very clear that most actors don't have a lot of 797 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 1: power either, and like to tell our friends, like hold 798 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: the line. You deserve to hold the line. There are 799 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: so many more of you than there are of us 800 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 1: on a set. Please shut that shift down and win 801 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: for yourselves, win for all of us, Like do it? 802 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 1: You know? And I think it's It's why when I 803 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 1: say this whole experience, this is magic. Like even to 804 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 1: work on a set and finally be in a position 805 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: where as a producer I get to call all the 806 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,240 Speaker 1: executives and say, like what are we doing for our people? 807 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 1: Like how how are we looking at our hours? What 808 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 1: do we have to prove to earn more time? Like 809 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm not naive, I realize there's pragmatism that's required here, Like, 810 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,359 Speaker 1: but tell me what it looks like, tell me how 811 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 1: we get to advocate for these people, and that is 812 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 1: like it's the dopest thing in the world to me, 813 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,879 Speaker 1: not just to pass the baton, but like, if there 814 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: is a room that I get to walk in to 815 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: try to pull somebody else in it with me, and 816 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,839 Speaker 1: if there is a room that I have to walk 817 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,800 Speaker 1: in by myself because I'm like I've been allowed in 818 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 1: there as of the last three weeks, then I'm going 819 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 1: to carry everyone else's batons in there and be like, 820 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 1: have you looked at all of these? And that that's 821 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 1: the being rather than the time doing Like, that's the 822 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: being that I want for all of us on our 823 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: on our set. That's whether people see it or not, 824 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: that's the being. That's who you are because I kid you, 825 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 1: not like because you are my friend. I want to 826 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 1: like like vent about my little things and I'm like no, no, no, 827 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: no no. At work, but then I have to like 828 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 1: be careful because I'm like, wait, she's still producer, Sophia, 829 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 1: and she will fix this. When sometimes I'm just like 830 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: because like everyone I was like Sophia the makeup for 831 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: the like they did the makeup and it was lighter 832 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 1: than my actual skin tone, and like I know that. 833 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 1: She's like what and I was like, oh uh uh, 834 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 1: let me dial back. That was they were just trying out. Um, 835 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: she's gonna get the dark makeup and immediately gone, somebody 836 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: has gone. She's now calling. I was like, like, you 837 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 1: definitely are, like you're like my own personal robin Hood. 838 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 1: But so I'm like, I have to be careful about 839 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: like what I like friendly bant to you because I'm like, 840 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: she's still a producer and you can't even say like 841 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 1: that the almonds were stale. The almonds are not going 842 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 1: to be stale ever again. And I have to be 843 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 1: careful who who I say that too when it comes 844 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,799 Speaker 1: to definitely tried, because you will. You want everyone's experience 845 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: to be pleasant. You want everyone's experience to be great. 846 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: And I love that about you because yeah, you do. 847 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: You're You're very tapped in and you're extremely empathetic. So 848 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: it's like if someone feels like they're not having a 849 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: good time or that they're they want something or need 850 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: something but they're scared to ask, it's like you feel 851 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,720 Speaker 1: it and you know it, and then like it's gone. 852 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,800 Speaker 1: You're you're at a there the doors are swinging and 853 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,359 Speaker 1: then you're coming back with the thing that they needed, 854 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: and I think it's such a beautiful thing. At the 855 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 1: same time, I'm like Sophia Delegate. Every once in a while, 856 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 1: you're so good, you'll be like this is not Nope, 857 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: don't just let somebody else is going to answer that question. 858 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:29,399 Speaker 1: Just wait, and I'm like, oh, all right, you're right, 859 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna But it's funny. It's like I'll give 860 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,919 Speaker 1: you a thing that that grant and I do that's 861 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,720 Speaker 1: so helpful, which like is a it's a great relationship tactic, 862 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: but I think it's good for you know, we're all 863 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 1: in relationships, whether they're romantic or not. Is purge your 864 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 1: problem solved? Purge or problem solved? So like someone can 865 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 1: come to you, like you could come to me with 866 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 1: a problem and I could be like what is going 867 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 1: on and you're like, this is just a purge and 868 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 1: then it's like I just need to vent, versus being 869 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 1: like I need you to help me problem solve, and 870 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 1: then it's like okay, and it and it's and it's beautiful, 871 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 1: especially in partnership, like romantic partnership, because sometimes we just 872 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 1: want to vent and sometimes we're like help me. But 873 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,279 Speaker 1: when someone like immediately goes into fix it mode. When 874 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 1: you're trying to vent it doesn't feel great. And then 875 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,440 Speaker 1: sometimes when you really want to help fixing and someone's like, yeah, 876 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 1: well you got a lot on your plate, and then 877 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 1: like walks away, You're like, what the fuck, help me 878 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,319 Speaker 1: fix it? And so it's funny to learn that, like 879 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 1: if you if you give somebody just a little qualifier 880 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 1: and I like, I like the alliteration, so perjuror problem solved. Um, 881 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 1: but it's great. So you can be like, oh, you 882 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 1: convent to me all you want at work, but just 883 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 1: be like, this is just a purge, and then I'll 884 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 1: know not to go set something on fire in your 885 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 1: definite Yeah I will. I I'm starting that tomorrow. I 886 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: love it. I definitely did drop a line about your 887 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 1: experience with the foundation. Was like, I'm just gonna say 888 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:03,840 Speaker 1: this in his friendly a manner as possible so that 889 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,759 Speaker 1: I don't blow a gasket, but just know that on 890 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,439 Speaker 1: the inside I am. The fact that our other lead 891 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 1: actress is being met with foundation that is not her 892 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 1: skin shade is completely fucking unacceptable. And in case no 893 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: one's seen, fenty is a seventy five million dollar quarterly 894 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 1: brand that Rihanna launched with seventy skin shades, So fix it, 895 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: and everyone was like okay, but I know the next 896 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 1: day I was like, this is actually a perfect match. 897 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: Did you is this? And literally I'm not giving you 898 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 1: we have fenty all over. Listen was just like, we're 899 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 1: not going to debate about this. I will even give 900 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: you a footnote. There will be a resource goodbye. Oh 901 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 1: my goodness, that was hysterical how quick it got fixed. 902 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: But I was like, but I don't me to like 903 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 1: to like ask for what I want as well, Like 904 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 1: it didn't need to be a bit. It could have 905 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 1: been me directly having the conversation with someone. It didn't 906 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 1: have to be you know you. But you know that's 907 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:04,319 Speaker 1: been a learning curve for me. Is is as you know, 908 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 1: which I've expressed to you before, is like using my 909 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: voice and asking for what I need and not just 910 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 1: being a good soldier, you know what I mean, Like 911 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,879 Speaker 1: just yeah, you want me to stand here, cool, let 912 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 1: me do that. Yep, you do it faster, awesome, slow down, cool, 913 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: Like I just versus like you and Jason are really 914 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 1: good at Like, no, this is a process for you 915 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 1: as well. If you have questions or if you want to, 916 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, try something a little different, like just speak up. 917 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 1: And I'm like it sounds easy, doesn't it. Well, you know, 918 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: but that's still a learning process for me. And like 919 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 1: you were there that night that I even said to Jason, 920 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,839 Speaker 1: I was complimenting him for how much he's pushing me 921 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,320 Speaker 1: to not just be as professional as quickly as possible, 922 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,240 Speaker 1: but to like really take my time as an artist. 923 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 1: And he's helping me turn that lens. That is so 924 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 1: easy for me to offer to other people about like 925 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,279 Speaker 1: take your time, get what you need, what do you 926 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,719 Speaker 1: need to be comfortable. He's been very helpful to me 927 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,360 Speaker 1: in terms of being like, but when do you do 928 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,759 Speaker 1: that for you? Like why do you just why do 929 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: you try to assist camera to get the shot as 930 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 1: quickly as possible? Like what do you want to experience 931 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 1: in the scene? And I'm like, oh shit, shit, all right, god, okay, 932 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 1: this is hard, but it I think it's good too. 933 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 1: It's good to check in about that stuff. Well, that's 934 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 1: a healthy relationship is when someone can put a mirror 935 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 1: up and and as you said, we are all in relationship. 936 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,719 Speaker 1: An authentic relationship to me is when people can be like, 937 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,160 Speaker 1: here's the mirror. Do you see what you're doing? Do 938 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: you see it? Do you see it? And not scared 939 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:50,400 Speaker 1: to do that at a fear of loss, yeah, or 940 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 1: fear of confrontation, you know, to be able to do that. 941 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: And I feel like we've all been able to learn 942 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 1: how to, you know, gracefully and slowly move into that 943 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 1: space naturally without forcing it of like knowing when we're 944 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,399 Speaker 1: at that place in our relationship, or we can just 945 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 1: be like stop, don't do that, like yell like I 946 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 1: did with Jason, and then immediately hug it out right, 947 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 1: but then like you and I were like little girls, 948 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 1: like and meanwhile he has not mad at all, right, 949 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 1: Like it's but it's just like that's what makes to 950 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 1: me such real relationships that we can do that and 951 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,360 Speaker 1: not edit ourselves and be on our best behavior for 952 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 1: twelve to fourteen hours a day Monday to Friday, you know, 953 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 1: because that mask will drop real quick. So I'm glad 954 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 1: that we've all been able to get to that space 955 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 1: that's so real because it is also showing up on screen. 956 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 1: You know. I sneak and look at playback a lot 957 00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 1: now just to like, you know, see let's and I'm like, 958 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:05,239 Speaker 1: it's just so delicious. It's delicious. Oh my god. I know. 959 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,279 Speaker 1: Somebody tweeted me after the pilot and was like, my 960 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,880 Speaker 1: life goal is to have Sophia Bush described something I 961 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 1: do as delicious, and I was like, it is my 962 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 1: highest compliment. It really is, and we are doing some 963 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: delicious things. When you think about how good this is, 964 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 1: and you want to stay present and this is like 965 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 1: the both and right, this is the whole point of 966 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 1: like when I wrote about being a work in progress, 967 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 1: it's like, cherish where you are and celebrate it, but 968 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 1: also certainly look at what you want to do. What 969 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 1: do you think about goals, Like what is the goal 970 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: beyond right here right now? Honey? Well, yeah, I definitely 971 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: want to have my own travel show because I'm addicted 972 00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,160 Speaker 1: to traveling, as you know, that's my heartbeat. So oh 973 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 1: that way be cool. I've been working on that. I 974 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 1: have I think like five episodes of different destinations that 975 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 1: I've shot and i've edit. I've edit on my own, 976 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 1: which I'm pretty proud of. So I'm just kind of 977 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 1: building my not kind of I am building my resume 978 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 1: of videos so that come time um to produce my 979 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 1: own travel show. I will have some proof in my 980 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 1: putting the show when it comes time to pitching time. 981 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 1: So because you know, I never I used to watch 982 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 1: so many different travel shows growing up, and I'm never 983 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 1: seeing a black female travel host. They might be out there, 984 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 1: I just I haven't seen it, especially with my personality. 985 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 1: And I would love to be able to UM have 986 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 1: like a different co host in every episode, and that 987 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 1: co host be someone from that country that is an 988 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 1: influencer in that country, whether it be in beauty or 989 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,480 Speaker 1: dating or um politics or whatever the case may be. 990 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 1: UM and it'll be called culture shock. And yeah, so 991 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 1: excited about that. It's still you know, a work in 992 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 1: progress as always. And then I want to direct more. 993 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 1: I've directed before, and I really loved it. It was, 994 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:16,240 Speaker 1: um such an incredible opportunity. I worked with my girlfriend Joseels, 995 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 1: who you've met, on a project called Killing Karen Soloway 996 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 1: and it was such a such a fulfilling experience, which 997 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 1: I know you've you've had. It's just so that was 998 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:35,320 Speaker 1: something I've always said, like, oh, those are two projects 999 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 1: that will happen when I get the series regular. I 1000 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,760 Speaker 1: had such a laser being focused on getting the show. 1001 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 1: I did not want to steer off that road. I 1002 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 1: didn't want a multitask. I didn't want to be the 1003 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 1: person that's like, I'm this, slash this, slash this, Like 1004 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: I just wanted to really just focus on on that. 1005 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 1: And now that it's accomplished, those are the two things 1006 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 1: I have brewing. UM. Relationships, you know, relationships are always nice. Um, 1007 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:11,480 Speaker 1: my goal is always to grow in love and relationships 1008 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:16,200 Speaker 1: because that is the one thing I personally feel I 1009 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 1: can't do on my own. I can read as many 1010 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 1: books as I want, and I can watch as many 1011 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Ted talks as I want, and I can tap in 1012 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 1: burn sage and rub crystals all I want, but at 1013 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I need real world experience 1014 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 1: with another human being to to really see my progress 1015 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 1: in love and relationships. So I'm always looking forward to that, 1016 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:43,440 Speaker 1: to those experiences, and um, buying a house is a 1017 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 1: huge goal of mine, so I've been looking at properties, 1018 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna absolutely talk to you and Grant more 1019 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 1: about that since you have such great experience and in 1020 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,919 Speaker 1: real estate, the two of you, because I'm very much 1021 01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:04,040 Speaker 1: green in that sense. Those are yeah, yeah, I think 1022 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:09,240 Speaker 1: that's a pretty solid solid list. Um. And then seeing 1023 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 1: my family more would be fun. But that's where the 1024 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 1: house comes in, because then I want to have a 1025 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 1: guest house and toss my mom and I want you close. 1026 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 1: I just don't want to, but not like with me, 1027 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 1: with me, you feel me, but like just during the 1028 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,440 Speaker 1: cold months of Chicago, like she could be a snowbird, 1029 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 1: she would that would be her heaven if I like 1030 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,400 Speaker 1: had that opportunity set up for her. So yeah, those 1031 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 1: are those are the majors. Those are the majors for sure. Um. 1032 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 1: And then I also have like some charitable stuff that 1033 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 1: I have a mind and um and a foundation that 1034 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm working on that I want to talk to you 1035 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 1: about as well. Yeah, I mean, the percentage of young 1036 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 1: black and brown kids passports is so extremely low. It's 1037 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 1: so extremely low. And backpacking through Europe is just not 1038 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 1: a part of our dinner table conversation growing up. It's 1039 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 1: just not you know, UM, A lot of families just 1040 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:12,960 Speaker 1: believe that they could spend that money on something more 1041 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:17,320 Speaker 1: important like bills and food and healthcare and education. That 1042 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 1: traveling is not ever anywhere really close to high priority 1043 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 1: for a lot of black and brown families in America. 1044 01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:30,920 Speaker 1: So I would love to, um do like a contest 1045 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 1: every year where high school students have to submit an essay, 1046 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,880 Speaker 1: but in in order to be considered for the trip 1047 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:43,600 Speaker 1: overseas first destination will be gonna Um, they have to 1048 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 1: submit a photo of their passport. So whether they get 1049 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 1: selected or not, they got a passport. At least at 1050 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,760 Speaker 1: least they got the passport. I mean, I just yeah, 1051 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 1: I have so many different really cool ideas in my 1052 01:02:55,880 --> 01:03:03,760 Speaker 1: head that I plan on flushing out, and but I'm 1053 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,880 Speaker 1: not touching any of them until we're done filming because 1054 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 1: I just want to sit in this. So until April, 1055 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm just good Sam all day, every day and creating 1056 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 1: new vision boards for post season one production. Yes, I 1057 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,600 Speaker 1: love that. I'm starting to think about It's like I 1058 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,400 Speaker 1: wish this whole wall was a white board and we 1059 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,240 Speaker 1: could just you know what I mean, I think we 1060 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,959 Speaker 1: should do. This would be a great lab wall, right, 1061 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,280 Speaker 1: like maybe we just put paper up. But I love 1062 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:40,720 Speaker 1: the idea of beginning to board out postseason one. And 1063 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 1: then I've actually been thinking, because you inspire me about 1064 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 1: really getting serious with the universe about what we want. 1065 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm gonna then make a list of 1066 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 1: what we're going to do during season two, absolutely right, Like, 1067 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 1: let's plot the years. We want to do this job 1068 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:03,959 Speaker 1: for many years yep, together and have a time such 1069 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,960 Speaker 1: a time. I've already reserved the Airbnbs for our weekend trips. 1070 01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:11,080 Speaker 1: Perfect season two and three, can't win. We're out here 1071 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 1: like spring, we will be on the lake. We're going. 1072 01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's the other thing. Guys, our our 1073 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,960 Speaker 1: Toronto friends listening. If you have great travel info, please 1074 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,200 Speaker 1: send it to the podcast. Where should we be going? 1075 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 1: Give us your tips please and thank you. I've never 1076 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,840 Speaker 1: met a bad meal in Toronto. Some of the best 1077 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,479 Speaker 1: food in this city. But I want to know those 1078 01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:43,480 Speaker 1: hidden gyms as well, like the school speakeasies or the 1079 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 1: great day trips yep. And then the weekend getaway the 1080 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:52,400 Speaker 1: hiking spots. Tell us your secrets, give it to us. Okay, 1081 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:56,360 Speaker 1: so we have a lot of progress plans. What in 1082 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 1: your life right now feels like you're work in progress? 1083 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,960 Speaker 1: You knew that question was coming, but it always takes 1084 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 1: me but my surprise. Ah yeah, yeah, yeah, I have 1085 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 1: a battle, an inside battle with marriage and kids. That's 1086 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:23,600 Speaker 1: the work in progress. I definitely would like to and 1087 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:29,439 Speaker 1: roll The Therapist after production to help me unpack that, 1088 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 1: because I feel like I'm at the stage where I 1089 01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:39,160 Speaker 1: am constantly repeating the same narrative that has kept me 1090 01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:47,280 Speaker 1: safe and with love, marriage, family, all of that, it's 1091 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 1: very scary territory that is so worth it. It's so 1092 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 1: worth it. It's scary, it's always scary, but it's so 1093 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:59,280 Speaker 1: worth it. And the brain is not designed to make 1094 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,080 Speaker 1: you happy. The brain is designed to keep you safe. 1095 01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:06,080 Speaker 1: So I'm very clear on the way my brain has 1096 01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:09,400 Speaker 1: operated around love, marriage, and kids, which I've shared with 1097 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 1: you before, and I'm I'm kind of you know, when 1098 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:14,800 Speaker 1: you get to that point when you're kind of tired 1099 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:20,800 Speaker 1: of your own bullshit. M I would like to know why. 1100 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 1: I would like to know why has the idea of 1101 01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,600 Speaker 1: no marriage, no kids that has protected me for so long? 1102 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,600 Speaker 1: Why am I still holding onto it when I have 1103 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 1: had the opportunity to meet such incredible people, such incredible men. 1104 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:41,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's a work in progress that I have 1105 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,600 Speaker 1: just recently decided that I'm going to have a professional 1106 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:50,400 Speaker 1: help me, like help facilitate that experience and and see 1107 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 1: where it goes if it leads me right back to like, actually, nah, 1108 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm okay with that, but at least I'm allowing myself 1109 01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:01,600 Speaker 1: to look at it. I haven't really quite looked at it. 1110 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 1: I've just repeated it. Well, and remember what happened when 1111 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,479 Speaker 1: you looked at what you thought about acting? I see 1112 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,160 Speaker 1: what I mean. You became a serious regular on a 1113 01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 1: CBS medical drama and I started late. M hmm. So 1114 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 1: even in this area where I've told myself, well, you're 1115 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:25,560 Speaker 1: not a young chicken anymore. You you know, you know, 1116 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm considering, and that consideration comes when you do 1117 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:35,160 Speaker 1: experience someone treating you really incredible. And I'm currently having 1118 01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:40,480 Speaker 1: that experience. So now in that space, UM, I would 1119 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:44,320 Speaker 1: like to I would like to explore that. So that's 1120 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,440 Speaker 1: a work in progress right now. I'll keep you updated. 1121 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:51,240 Speaker 1: I will give you all my resource. Please do like 1122 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,960 Speaker 1: a late bloomer, I had to do much therapy to 1123 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,960 Speaker 1: get here. Oh yeah, amazing, Please, I just loved. I 1124 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 1: think we had a conversation right before UM, you and 1125 01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:08,240 Speaker 1: Grant got serious, Like you were excited about Grant. But 1126 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,640 Speaker 1: remember we went on that hike and we were both 1127 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:16,800 Speaker 1: like having that conversation and like now like two years later, 1128 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:22,040 Speaker 1: look at look at this, this is incredible. My goodness, 1129 01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:26,320 Speaker 1: takes work. It does, especially for I got it. I'm good, 1130 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:30,920 Speaker 1: I've handled it. I've got it women like us. Yeah. 1131 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,160 Speaker 1: I love homework. Okay, I'm ready. So that's fine, all right, 1132 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,800 Speaker 1: that's yeah. Here we go, Here we go, bring it. 1133 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm so excited for this year. I love you too, 1134 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:41,400 Speaker 1: Booby