WEBVTT - The Mark Moss Show Nov 9, 2022

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to another episode of The Mark Moss

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<v Speaker 1>Show where we talk about the decentralized revolution. We talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it each and every week, the way the world

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<v Speaker 1>is changing rapidly, and we look at it through the

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<v Speaker 1>lens of politics, finance, and technology. And of course it's

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<v Speaker 1>always technology that changes the world as we know it.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a battle over technology right now and it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to determine how the world is shaped moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I want to talk about today. If

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<v Speaker 1>Just on the Market Disruptors YouTube channel you'll find um

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<v Speaker 1>you can watch me and listen to me at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time. But I want to talk about today how

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<v Speaker 1>the world is changing really really rapidly, um, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>about to change even faster because of the technology. As

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<v Speaker 1>I said, this battle over technology, and the battle over

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<v Speaker 1>technology that I'm talking about is over money. Um. The

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<v Speaker 1>entire well, I don't want to say the entire world.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the world has been transformed through technology

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<v Speaker 1>and specifically through software. You've heard the term probably software

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<v Speaker 1>is eating the world. And so we saw entire libraries

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<v Speaker 1>of books become digitized, and now we can all we

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<v Speaker 1>can have all those books and are in the palm

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<v Speaker 1>of our hand on our phone. And we saw I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw music be digitized, movies be digitized. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>think about you know, I don't know, two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to hear Mozart or Beethoven, you'd have

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<v Speaker 1>to hire like a hundred per person orchestra to come

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<v Speaker 1>play Beethoven or Mozart for you. And then technology made

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<v Speaker 1>it where I could us into Beethoven or Mozart on

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<v Speaker 1>a record, and then an eight track, and then a

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<v Speaker 1>cassette and then a c D and today it's just digital,

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<v Speaker 1>just digital, just streams on my phone. I took a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred person orchestra and now it streams on my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>So so we digitized libraries, entire libraries, entire books, you know, books,

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<v Speaker 1>book libraries are on my phone. Entire orchestras are now

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<v Speaker 1>on my phone. Of course we saw that happen with pictures,

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<v Speaker 1>with videos, with music. It all happened. But the last piece,

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<v Speaker 1>I think one of the biggest last pieces is money

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<v Speaker 1>is our financial system, which of course, uh, bitcoin and

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<v Speaker 1>cryptocurrencies are here disrupting all of that. The governments want

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<v Speaker 1>to roll out their own central Bank Digital currencies or

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<v Speaker 1>c B dcs, that's the acronym central Bank Digital currencies,

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<v Speaker 1>And so that is the battle. Who gets to digitize money,

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<v Speaker 1>who gets to say what money is? So when we

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<v Speaker 1>started to digitize music and movies, if you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>old enough to remember this, it was a battle. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a battle for the ages a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the movie studios, the record labels, they fought at tooth

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<v Speaker 1>and nail. Lawsuits were flying left and right. If you

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<v Speaker 1>guys remember the early days of like Napster, we could

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<v Speaker 1>like download movies and music, and they shut that down.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to put people in jail, in prison. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was, it was, it was, It was wild it

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<v Speaker 1>was a wild time to live through. Um. But of

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<v Speaker 1>course they lost. They lost because there's a quote, I

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<v Speaker 1>forget who says it, but a standing army is no

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<v Speaker 1>match for a good idea whose time has come. And

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<v Speaker 1>so when you have an idea, when when there's something

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<v Speaker 1>that's a thousand times better, you just can't stop it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just no amount of laws, no amount of rules

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<v Speaker 1>regulations are going to stop it. Um. If we look

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<v Speaker 1>back in the fifteen hundreds, there was the Protestant Reformation.

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<v Speaker 1>What really led to the Protestant Reformation was technology. So

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<v Speaker 1>seventy years before or the Protestant Reformation, a brand new

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<v Speaker 1>technology came out that that was revolutionary changed the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And that technology, it came out seven years before the

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<v Speaker 1>Project Information, was something known as the Guttenberg printing Press. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>before that all books had to be hand written transcribed,

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<v Speaker 1>and so as you might imagine, there were not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of books because who wants nobody even wants to

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<v Speaker 1>read a book today, much less imagine trying to transcribe

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<v Speaker 1>it letter by letter by letter, and of course you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't want to do that. Now, the Bible was the

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<v Speaker 1>most translated book thousands and thousands and thousands of copies.

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<v Speaker 1>UM were creative the Bible, and it was all transcribed perfectly. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>As a side note, UH, well we'll get into that.

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<v Speaker 1>But the the Gutenberg printing press, the first book that

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<v Speaker 1>they started printing, which was of course the Bible, which

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<v Speaker 1>was of course the most widespread book of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and not just by a little bit by uh, an

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<v Speaker 1>astronomical figure. I don't have the data in front of me. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But happened is that technology then started mass producing Bible,

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<v Speaker 1>so we got even more of them and started to

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<v Speaker 1>spread that information. But the government at that time, the

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<v Speaker 1>political structure of the political hierarchy that we had at

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<v Speaker 1>that time was UM, the church and state and so UM.

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<v Speaker 1>In about a thousand, eleven hundred a d UM, the

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<v Speaker 1>church started to rise up after the Dark Ages. They

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<v Speaker 1>tried to start putting all the pieces back together. Society

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<v Speaker 1>had broken down really bad, and the church organized the

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<v Speaker 1>people and they did all the public service goods and

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<v Speaker 1>they fixed the bridges, they fixed the roads, they made

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<v Speaker 1>clean water drinking systems. The church was amazing. They took

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<v Speaker 1>care of the poor. They did the best. But over

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<v Speaker 1>several hundreds of years they got very corrupted, and they

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<v Speaker 1>used their position between the church and the state, the

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<v Speaker 1>government to basically impose their will. They were able to

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<v Speaker 1>hang onto that monopoly because they were the arbiters of truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Sound familiar. They told the people what the what the

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<v Speaker 1>Bible said, and that the only way to get to Heaven,

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<v Speaker 1>to get to God was if you do what I say,

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<v Speaker 1>which is all kinds of crazy, insane things that they

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<v Speaker 1>had to do chivalry, you know, they had to walk

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<v Speaker 1>on one foot for a week to show whatever right.

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<v Speaker 1>It was insane. But what happened is that that that

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<v Speaker 1>that piece of technology, the printing press, disseminated the information,

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<v Speaker 1>decentralized the information, and once people got to the information this,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, you guys have been lying to us.

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<v Speaker 1>What you're telling us is not true. We can read

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<v Speaker 1>it for ourselves now. And anybody that got that book

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<v Speaker 1>knew that they were being lied to by their government,

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<v Speaker 1>and they started talking about it. Hey, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying isn't true. What you're saying isn't true.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were labeled heretics. Anybody that was labeled heretics

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<v Speaker 1>or talking heresy was killed. They're put to death. But

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't matter, the truth was too powerful. A standing

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<v Speaker 1>army was no match for a good idea of time

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<v Speaker 1>has come and so the truth won out, and more

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<v Speaker 1>and more people talked, talked about it spread the information

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<v Speaker 1>didn't matter how many people they killed, it was too much.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the TECHNOLOGYOK over And that's kind of where

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<v Speaker 1>we're at today. So back to the money. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>go back to this. So in sixteen nine four, a

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<v Speaker 1>few hundred years ago, we had the first central bank.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really where the central bank got started. Now we

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<v Speaker 1>could debate this, you can go back to however far

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<v Speaker 1>back in history you want to go. But really I

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<v Speaker 1>believe this was the first central bank. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>great book written on it by I believe Murray Rothbard

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<v Speaker 1>called The Mysteries of Central Banking. Highly recommend you read it.

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<v Speaker 1>You could find it for free on mesas dot org,

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<v Speaker 1>m my scs dot org. And it really talks about

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<v Speaker 1>the creation of the central bank, the Bank of England,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it kind of goes through this history of it.

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<v Speaker 1>A great, great book. But anyway, so Bank of England

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<v Speaker 1>was the first bank central bank to issue what was

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<v Speaker 1>known as bank notes instead of coins. So before that,

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<v Speaker 1>like the goldsmiths were the were the bankers, because they

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<v Speaker 1>were the ones that actually minted the coins. They made

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<v Speaker 1>the coins, they made the money. But the Bank of

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<v Speaker 1>England was the first bank to issue bank notes or

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<v Speaker 1>basically fiat currency or basically worthless paper currency. And and

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<v Speaker 1>the way this got it started is amazing. And I

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<v Speaker 1>want to tell you this quick little stories you can

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<v Speaker 1>understand the insanity of this. And so um gold had

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<v Speaker 1>been money for five thousand years. Obviously went from a

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<v Speaker 1>barter system into like a gold system. We had coins,

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<v Speaker 1>which was the point I was making. We had these

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<v Speaker 1>these gold coins. But what happened is is that if

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<v Speaker 1>you can't get more coins, you don't have more money.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Course, we under we we know, I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 1>know by now the Roman Empire had to debase their currency.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of silver, it was sover so they had ten

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<v Speaker 1>percent more money. Then it went to more solver more money,

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually over two years they went to no silver.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's debasing, that's what they called that. And

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<v Speaker 1>what happened is we fast forward to the late six

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds and England is at war with France, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>the war that change changed everything. Similar to how we're

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<v Speaker 1>in a war today that is also going to change everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna draw these parallels for you. You don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to miss this, uh, this that I have coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're just tuning in, you're listening to the Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Moah Show talking about the Decentralized Revolution, talking about right

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<v Speaker 1>now the battle of technology over money, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>it always happens at a time of war, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like we're at right now. So I'm gonna cover all

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<v Speaker 1>this and more. You don't want to miss this. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be amazing. I'll be back with that and more

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<v Speaker 1>in a minute. Don't go away, all right, Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're just tuning in, you're listening to the Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Moa Show, we're talking about the decentralized Revolution, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going through a little history lesson right now. I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you how it's always technology that changes the world. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been technology that's changed money before, um and how it

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<v Speaker 1>really changes at a time of war. That's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>where we're at. So um, here we are, late sixteen hundreds,

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<v Speaker 1>we're in England. England's at war with France. Now, one

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<v Speaker 1>thing about war is it takes a lot of money. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Up until this point, wars didn't have but a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot because if I was going to go to war,

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<v Speaker 1>it was gonna cost me a lot of money. Do

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<v Speaker 1>I have that much money? Do I want to spend

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<v Speaker 1>that money? If I lose the war, then I'm broke.

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<v Speaker 1>If I win the war, I might still be broke.

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<v Speaker 1>And so wars happened less frequently, and they lasted very

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<v Speaker 1>short periods of time until when everything changed. And so

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<v Speaker 1>what happened is France, England and France were in war.

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<v Speaker 1>England needed more money. They needed more money to go

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<v Speaker 1>to war. Now what would happen If you've watched any

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<v Speaker 1>of these old movies like Robin Hood or any other movies,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that the kings would have to borrow money

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<v Speaker 1>from the rich people in the country. And so UM

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<v Speaker 1>England was out there talking to all the rich people saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>would you get would you loan us? Loan the kingdom money?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you loan the Kingdom money? Loan US money so

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<v Speaker 1>we can keep going to war. And a group of

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<v Speaker 1>a group of people came to the bank the Kingdom,

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<v Speaker 1>the government UM in England at the time, and they said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we have an idea for you let me let me

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<v Speaker 1>float this idea for you. How about we'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>as my money as you want. We'll give you unlimited

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<v Speaker 1>amount of money. And of course, uh, the kingdoms like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds great, we'd like an unlimited amount of money.

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<v Speaker 1>What what do we get? What do we give you

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<v Speaker 1>for for that? In exchange, they said, well, here's the deal. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna give you as much money as you want.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's here's the situation. We're going to create our

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<v Speaker 1>own bank called the Bank of England. Sounds very official, right,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna sort of like the Federal Reserve of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. We're gonna create the Bank of England. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna do is we're going to create our

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<v Speaker 1>own money. It's not gonna be gold or gold coins.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna we're gonna create this these new paper, this

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<v Speaker 1>paper money. But what you're gonna do is you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell everybody in the country that our money is the

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<v Speaker 1>new money. Everyone's supposed to use. It's legal tender and

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<v Speaker 1>they have to use it. And as long as you

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<v Speaker 1>do that, then we'll give you as much of it

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<v Speaker 1>as you want. And so they did. So we had

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<v Speaker 1>the creation of the Bank of England, they issued the

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<v Speaker 1>bank notes, and that highlights the insanity. Now today, fast

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<v Speaker 1>forward a few hundred years, we have central banks all

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<v Speaker 1>over the world. We have obviously in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>we have the Federal Reserve. It sounds very federal. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course they're not federal and they don't have any reserves,

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<v Speaker 1>as we like to say. And all these other countries

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<v Speaker 1>have um central banks. In Europe they have the European

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<v Speaker 1>Central Bank UM. In England they have still have the

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<v Speaker 1>Bank of England is still there. In Japan is the

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<v Speaker 1>Bank of Japan, etcetera. And then above the central banks

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<v Speaker 1>we have the Bank, the Central Bank of Central Banks,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the b i S the Bank of International Settlements.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the central banks today supposedly third job is to

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<v Speaker 1>maintain price stability. Maintained price stability. So when the price

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<v Speaker 1>of homes double in a decade, is that a stable price?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they doubled. When the price of my gas

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<v Speaker 1>alene to fill up my car went up by fifty

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<v Speaker 1>is that stable? Now that's the United States. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a good about three billion people in the world, so

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<v Speaker 1>about half a little little less than half the people

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<v Speaker 1>in the world today live under more than double digit inflation.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got places like in in Turkey where it's eighty percent.

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<v Speaker 1>That means if you had a hundred thousand dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>your bank account today, in a year from now, it

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<v Speaker 1>buys you about twenty dollars worth of goods. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>stable prices? Certainly not. So. If I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>rank central banks on their ability to have price stability,

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<v Speaker 1>I would give them a big f a big failing, which,

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<v Speaker 1>of course why the Federal Reserve of the United States

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<v Speaker 1>is scrambling trying to quote maintain confidence. Hey, no, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we have this under control. We're gonna fix this. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna fix this. That's why Jerome Pale, the Federal Reservice,

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<v Speaker 1>says he's committed committed to bringing inflation back down. It's

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<v Speaker 1>too high. It's an eight percent. Their goal is only

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<v Speaker 1>two Their goal is only still two percent of your

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<v Speaker 1>wealth per year. They're still in way too much. Um. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you understand the creation of the Central Bank and

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<v Speaker 1>how insane it was, you understand that their goal is

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<v Speaker 1>price stability, which they don't do. Now, let's talk about technology,

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<v Speaker 1>the battle over technology. So we've already seen money become digitized.

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<v Speaker 1>I I hear all the time people are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I would never buy this bitcoin, bitcoins digital. I only

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<v Speaker 1>want real, tangible things I can hold in my hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Well over of all financial transactions are already done digitally.

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<v Speaker 1>I use a debit card, I use a credit card,

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<v Speaker 1>I use a wire transfer. You know, people put money

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<v Speaker 1>into my bank acount through my my payment system. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't really handle that much money now, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's still some old people who are like, still deal

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<v Speaker 1>on a cash basis, but it's very rare now. In

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<v Speaker 1>other countries it's obviously more more more used, more widely used.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the United States, most of the West Western world,

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<v Speaker 1>developed world, it's it's all digital. But it's still different,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. So the battle is how do we move

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<v Speaker 1>money into the digital age, just like we did with music, movies, books, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 1>And so of course we have bitcoin. Bitcoin was created, um.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, the white paper, which was

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<v Speaker 1>the very first paper that came out explaining what bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be, what it was all about, came

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<v Speaker 1>out on Halloween. So just uh, we're about a week,

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<v Speaker 1>not even a week, a few days after Halloween here

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<v Speaker 1>week after Halloween, Um, it came out on Halloween in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand eight, and then January third, two thousand nine,

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<v Speaker 1>Bitcoin was released to the world. Now, in the very

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<v Speaker 1>first line of codes, Toshi Nakamoto put a message in

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<v Speaker 1>there that said, um, the chancellors are on the brink

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<v Speaker 1>of a second bailout. So basically that tells us that

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin was created as a as a reaction, as a

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<v Speaker 1>solution to the central bankers printing way too much money

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<v Speaker 1>in creating this crazy price inflation. It was creative for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was created so that we had a way us

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<v Speaker 1>humans people to be able to transact just like cash,

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<v Speaker 1>but in a digital age. And this is the key

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<v Speaker 1>piece that we're going to hear. Just like cash, What

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean? Well, cash, you already know what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's paper paper in your wallet, right And if I

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<v Speaker 1>have this hundred dollar bill in my hand, you know

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<v Speaker 1>I have the huntred dollar bill. It's my hundred dollar bill. There,

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<v Speaker 1>it's my hundred dollar bill. If I hand it to you,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have that hundred dollar bill. Nobody's in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of that. I don't need to go take this

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<v Speaker 1>hunt dollar bill, go give it to this bank, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you have to go get it from the bank

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<v Speaker 1>with your idea and that no, I just hand the

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<v Speaker 1>huntre dollar ability you. There's nobody in the middle. It's

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<v Speaker 1>peer to peer. There's no counterparty risk, and nobody needs

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<v Speaker 1>to know about that. If I want to give it

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<v Speaker 1>to you, nobody needs to know. But that's between me

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<v Speaker 1>and you. Privacy, that's cash. Now it's happened is as

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<v Speaker 1>we've moved into the digital age, we started to lose

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that. So now if I want to

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<v Speaker 1>pay you with Venmo, then Moo hooks to my credit card,

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<v Speaker 1>my credit card hooks to my bank, and then my

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<v Speaker 1>bank talks to your bank, which then your bank talks

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<v Speaker 1>to your credit card, and then your credit card talks

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<v Speaker 1>to your Veno. It's like six people in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of that, all taking a piece, all taking a cut,

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<v Speaker 1>all potentially censoring us if we want. Like PayPal came

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<v Speaker 1>out and said they're gonna take out of your account

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<v Speaker 1>if you say anything bad online. Now they then they

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<v Speaker 1>retracted that, Oh no, no, we didn't mean to say that.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't mean to say it, And now they've come

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<v Speaker 1>back out and put it back. So they did they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't mean for you to find out about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's there, but who's who is PayPal to determine what

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<v Speaker 1>I say and don't say online and whether I can

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<v Speaker 1>spend my money right in a cash environment, that would

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<v Speaker 1>never happen. I have my cash, I can go to

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<v Speaker 1>the bank, I can pull my cash out. I can

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<v Speaker 1>come stuff it under my mattress if I want. But

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want that. Now, Bitcoin was created to be

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<v Speaker 1>a form of digital cash, but the central banks don't

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<v Speaker 1>want that. The central banks want us to use a

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<v Speaker 1>central bank digital currency. This is the battle, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I'm explaining to you. I want to give

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<v Speaker 1>you some quotes directly from Jerome Pale, the ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>the Federal Reserve in the United States Central Bank, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm want to give you some quotes directly from Augustine

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<v Speaker 1>Carston's who's the head of the central Bank of Central Banks,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the b I S. And then I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you about what central banks are already

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<v Speaker 1>using this um there's a couple in the world already

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. And then we're going to contrast that against

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<v Speaker 1>cryptocurrencies and central bank digital currencies. This is all information

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<v Speaker 1>you need to know because this is the battle of

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<v Speaker 1>your life that's coming for you. Without the freedom of

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<v Speaker 1>payments is no freedom. We're back with that more in

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. Don't go away, all right, welcome back. You

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<v Speaker 1>are listening to the Mark Masha if you're just tuning in.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about the decentralized revolution each and every week,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, and right now today we are talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the battle of all battles, and that is the battle

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<v Speaker 1>over money. We went through the history of the central banks.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about. The interesting peace was that the first

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<v Speaker 1>central bank, the Bank of England, happened during the time

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<v Speaker 1>of war. And again here we are a time of

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<v Speaker 1>war again, and the time of war now we're in

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of wars. We're in a war on poverty.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in a war on drugs. We're in a war

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<v Speaker 1>on obesity. We're in a war with Ukraine, who were

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<v Speaker 1>in an economic war. We're in a war with China.

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<v Speaker 1>Trade wars. I mean, we're in wars all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, to fight these wars, climate war whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>To fight these wars, we needed a lot more money,

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<v Speaker 1>just like England needed to fight their war against France.

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<v Speaker 1>We did a lot more money. And so the central

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<v Speaker 1>banks are creating more and more money, and that that

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<v Speaker 1>comes back to the problem. Now we have this bitcoin,

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<v Speaker 1>we have cryptocurrencies now, which are the people's money. It's

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<v Speaker 1>our ability to have something that we can transact with.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I said, bitcoin was created as this digital cash.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's important to understand digital cash for a minute

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<v Speaker 1>because you need to kind of understand how this works.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing with digital cash is that, as I said, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's peer to peer. So nobody needs to know about this,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't want that. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>let's hear it directly from Augustine Carston. He is the

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<v Speaker 1>head of the b i S, the central bank above

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<v Speaker 1>central banks. Let's see what he has to say right here,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't our analysis on CBDC particople are for the use

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<v Speaker 1>of general to the general use. We tend to establish

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<v Speaker 1>the equival lince with cash and there is a huge

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<v Speaker 1>difference there. For example, in cash, we don't know, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>who's using a one bill today. We don't know who

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<v Speaker 1>is using the one thousand vestl bill today. M hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a huge difference with central bank digital currencies

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<v Speaker 1>they want to push and cash. He said, So for example,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know who's using a hunt it all our

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<v Speaker 1>bill today or a thousand pascol bill today. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't need to. You never have in the whole

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<v Speaker 1>history of the entire world. This is a new thing. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>you get this piece right here. This is a new

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<v Speaker 1>thing for all of history, all of recorded history, five thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>six thousand years of recorded history. Mankind humans have traded.

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<v Speaker 1>We're born as capitalists. Little kids are in preschool trading

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<v Speaker 1>sandwiches for chips, people are in prison trading cigarettes for whatever. Right, like,

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<v Speaker 1>we all trade as human beings. That's natural for us.

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<v Speaker 1>So we traded chickens for pigs, or for cows for goats,

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<v Speaker 1>or corn for whatever it was. Then we started using

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<v Speaker 1>media exchange was the money. Gold became money for five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand years. Then we had cash. It's only been really

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<v Speaker 1>probably the last twenty five years or so, probably really

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<v Speaker 1>just since the Patriot Act, the day we lost more

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<v Speaker 1>freedom than any day and history in two thousand one.

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<v Speaker 1>That really the government's want to know every single doll

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<v Speaker 1>hunt it dollar as August and Carson said, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who has a hunt dollar bill. Yeah, you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>and you shouldn't. You don't need to. We in all

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<v Speaker 1>of history, We've never never needed to, We've never had to.

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<v Speaker 1>And now that's a problem for them, they say, But

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<v Speaker 1>they it's a problem, and it's it's it's rich coming

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<v Speaker 1>from a banker. And the reason why is because what

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<v Speaker 1>it shows is this guy, he's literally at the very

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<v Speaker 1>top of the ORG chart. It's the guy running the

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<v Speaker 1>central bank of all central banks. It shows that he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't understand what economics or money is. Now I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a trained economic economist, but he obviously doesn't. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why he doesn't is because he's saying, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who's using it. That's the whole point of money.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the whole point all right now, pre money. Imagine

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<v Speaker 1>if you're like in this little small town and I

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<v Speaker 1>run like the general store, and you have your farm

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<v Speaker 1>down in the street or whatever, right that me us

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<v Speaker 1>being this little town, I run the general store. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you, we live in a small town together. I've

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<v Speaker 1>known your parents, I know your kids, we all go

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<v Speaker 1>to the same church, etcetera, etcetera. And so I know you,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I extend you credit. And probably the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that runs that general store says, oh yeah, Jim owes

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<v Speaker 1>me this much, and Bob owes me this much, and

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<v Speaker 1>Sally owes me there's this much, And I keep a

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<v Speaker 1>ledger who owes me money because there's trust there. I

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<v Speaker 1>know who you are, I know where you live. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that you have the ability to pay me back,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I extend you credit, money or cash gets

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the need of that. Now, if you come

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<v Speaker 1>into my general store and you want a bag of

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<v Speaker 1>whatever of corn, I don't need to know you. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give me cash. You're gonna pay me for that

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I don't need to know who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm extending you credit, of course I need to

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<v Speaker 1>know who you are. But if you're gonna pay me

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<v Speaker 1>right now, I don't need to know who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know where you live. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know who your parents are, don't even know anything. You

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<v Speaker 1>give me the money, I give you the bag of corn.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way economies work. That's the purpose of money.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, well that's a problem. We don't know it. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's hear what he has to say. Let's play the

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<v Speaker 1>next part of the clip on what central bank digital

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<v Speaker 1>currencies will fix in this problem. More scenario. If keep

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<v Speaker 1>your friends in with the CBDC is the central bank

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<v Speaker 1>will have absolute control. Let me pause that right there, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the central bank will have absolute control. Let me let

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<v Speaker 1>me just restate that again. The central bank will have

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<v Speaker 1>absolute control. Let's see what he's gonna say about that

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<v Speaker 1>on the rules and regulations that will determine the use

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<v Speaker 1>of that expression of central branch liability. So the central

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<v Speaker 1>bank will have absolute control of the rules and regulations

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<v Speaker 1>of how you can use it, or he said express

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<v Speaker 1>it how you can use your own money. They'll have

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<v Speaker 1>absolute control and the rules and regulations. Let's see the

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<v Speaker 1>rest and also we will have the technology to enforce that.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are those two issues are extremely important, and those

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<v Speaker 1>issues are extremely important. That those two issues, what were

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<v Speaker 1>the two issues? That they will have absolute control over

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<v Speaker 1>how you can use your money, and that's the point

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<v Speaker 1>number one and point number two. They will have the

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<v Speaker 1>technology to enforce it. Those are the two most important things.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first clip was we don't know who has

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollar bills or a thousand pascol bills or how

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:19.880
<v Speaker 1>they're using them as they shouldn't. But with central bank,

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<v Speaker 1>digital currencies will have absolute control and we'll have the

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<v Speaker 1>technology to enforce it. Now, you know, he's the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the heap. As I said, he's the head of

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<v Speaker 1>the central bank. About central banks, what about in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, Because the United States would never do something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, like we get it, right, we get it

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 1>like China, you know, China, the CCP, the you know,

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Chinese Communist Party, their communist of course they have the

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:51.600
<v Speaker 1>social credit score system. Of course China would roll that

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<v Speaker 1>out right. Um, but what about the Land of the Free.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's hear from J. Powell, the head of the Central Bank,

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<v Speaker 1>the Federal Reserve. Let's dode he has to say. As

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, I'm gonna save that clip. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come back to that clip in a minute, because

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<v Speaker 1>I really want the time to kind of break this

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<v Speaker 1>down because, as I said, right the Home of the Free,

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<v Speaker 1>we should be a little bit different. Hey, but don't worry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a h I want I want you to understand

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<v Speaker 1>the differences of central bank digital currencies versus cryptocurrencies versus cash.

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<v Speaker 1>It's important because this is the battle that we're heading

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<v Speaker 1>into right now, and you need to know what is

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<v Speaker 1>at stake here. And then I want to show you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give a couple examples of where it's already

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<v Speaker 1>being used in other countries and what it looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all right, so let's listen to the Market mo

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.399
<v Speaker 1>Show if you're just tune in, talking about the decentralized revolution,

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>talking about the way the world changes as we look

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 1>at through the lens of politics, finance, and technology. We're

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:52.240
<v Speaker 1>talking about the technology of money, central bank digital currencies

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 1>versus bitcoin. I'll be back with more in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't miss this. I'll be back all right, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Mark Moa Show if you're

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 1>just tuning in, and uh, if you're just tuning in

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:05.399
<v Speaker 1>where you been, don't miss out. Make sure you make

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 1>sure you put a calendar reminder to hang out with

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:09.119
<v Speaker 1>me each and every time, each and every week on

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>this channel. Um. Now we're talking about the battle, the

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>battle for the ages, and of course we're talking about

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 1>the battle over money and the battle that's being a

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 1>friend of over money by technologies. We're talking about central

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 1>bank digital currencies versus bitcoin versus cash. We just heard

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<v Speaker 1>from the Center the head of the Central Bank of

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the Central Banks, the head of the b I, s

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Augustin Carson, and what he had to say and if

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't scare you, I don't know what will unless

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:38.679
<v Speaker 1>you're one of those people who thinks that the government

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 1>should just control every single breath that you take. Um,

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 1>which in that case, I don't know what you're thinking,

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 1>but we won't go into that conversation right now. But now,

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<v Speaker 1>as I was saying like this, you know this could

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 1>happen in China, in the communist China, but could it

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>happen in the Land of the Free. Let's hear from

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<v Speaker 1>the head of the Federal Reserve, J. Powell what he

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<v Speaker 1>has to say about central bank digital currencies. Let's play

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<v Speaker 1>that clip. If we were to pursue a CBDC, it

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<v Speaker 1>would at a minimum have the following four characteristics. First is,

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<v Speaker 1>so he says, if if we were to pursue a CBDC,

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<v Speaker 1>now we know that the Biden administration or I should

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 1>say not the administration. Well, I guess it is administration.

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 1>We know Biden signed an executive order. Um, I don't

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 1>think Biden knows what he's signing, so I'll probably say

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 1>that the Biden administration. However, the Biden administration put forward

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<v Speaker 1>an executive order. So an executive order is basically I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the king. I'm the czar on the dictator, and you

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>do what I say because I say so. So it

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>doesn't go through a democratically elected process. There's no vote

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<v Speaker 1>on this, none of that. But he put through an

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<v Speaker 1>executive order that basically is mandating the government to um

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<v Speaker 1>work on a central bank digital currency. And so they

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<v Speaker 1>are now, um, I guess your own palace says if

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<v Speaker 1>because um, there's a lot of law makers in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States pushing back on this. As you might imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, it is supposed to be the land

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<v Speaker 1>of the free. You're not supposed to have absolute total control,

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>as a Dustin Carson said, You're not supposed to have

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<v Speaker 1>absolute total control over what I can do with my

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>own money. But uh so, anyway, a lot of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of politicians are pushing back. So maybe that's why

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<v Speaker 1>he says, if let's hear the rest part the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of what he said here intermediated. Second is private privacy protected, intermediated.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was saying there's gonna be four four different

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<v Speaker 1>pieces to that, so that they are a minimum have

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<v Speaker 1>the following four characteristics. First is intermediated, Second is private

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>privacy protected. The third is identity verified. So it would

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<v Speaker 1>not be anonymous, it would not be an anonymous bearer instrument.

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 1>And fourth is transferable or interoperable. So so we're we

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<v Speaker 1>would be looking to balance privacy protection with identity verification,

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<v Speaker 1>which is which has to be done of course in

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<v Speaker 1>today's traditional banking system. Wow, let's break that down a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. So it needs to be intermediated. Okay, So

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>remember cash is not intermediated. Cash is peer to peer.

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>If I want to buy something from you, I hand

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<v Speaker 1>you the hundred dollar bill. That's it. There's nobody in

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 1>the middle, no third party, no counterparty. Is not intermediated,

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 1>he says. It needs to be intermediate, meaning the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>the bank, the central bank has to be in the

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 1>middle of you and I are transaction. Now. Of course

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 1>when you when they are in between us, then they

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<v Speaker 1>know everything because they have to approve or deny it. Right, Cash,

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 1>If I want to come over to your house and

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<v Speaker 1>buy something out of your garage and I hand you money,

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>nobody needs to know that now. Um, Now, look, we

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<v Speaker 1>have laws against certain things. If I'm coming over to

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 1>buy drugs with cash, of course we have laws. Of course,

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>that's breaking the law. But it's not cash that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a law already to break to protect that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the second part is he said, uh, second out

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<v Speaker 1>of four is it needs to be privacy protected. But

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<v Speaker 1>then the third point, so second was privacy protected. Third

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<v Speaker 1>is identity verified, not anonymous. So if it's not anonymous

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<v Speaker 1>like cash, is, how does it protect my privacy? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a mental gymnastics. Well the answer is, um, the

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<v Speaker 1>answer is, well, it's uh, it's it's it's not private

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<v Speaker 1>from us, right, so we you know, the government and

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 1>everybody that works for the government, which is about half

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:33.480
<v Speaker 1>of the people in the world or half of the

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 1>people in the in the country today, So you know

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>us and our partners and our banks and our regulators

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>and the FBI and everybody else. We we all see it.

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>But somehow it's privacy protected. I love that. That's rich.

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 1>So uh, like cash, like Augustin Carson, they don't know

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 1>who has on it our bill, but this is uh,

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 1>they'll don't know. And then they want to balance privacy

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<v Speaker 1>and identific verification. How do they balance set? It's not

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<v Speaker 1>the same, all right, So, um, we already have this

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<v Speaker 1>in play in China and now it's also in play

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 1>in Nigeria. Now in China, as again, it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a commonest country. Of course, it's in

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<v Speaker 1>play in China. But what's interesting is even in China,

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<v Speaker 1>where they control and regulate everything, we're seeing the transition

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<v Speaker 1>to cential digital currency is very very slow. As a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, it's way slower than they want. And

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<v Speaker 1>what they want they get their four centers a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, says transaction volume and the e c n

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<v Speaker 1>Y has only increased by fourteen per cent in the

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<v Speaker 1>last year, So very very slow, especially especially for technology adoption.

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<v Speaker 1>And so why why is it so small? Well, because

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 1>people don't want to use it. That's why. To put

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<v Speaker 1>it into um different stand different metrics, there's only been

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<v Speaker 1>about a hundred billion dollars worth of one used versus

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<v Speaker 1>in China they use ten cents, we Chat pay or

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Aunt groups all I pay for everything, and those have

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<v Speaker 1>processed a hundred and eighteen trillion one so a hunter

0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 1>billion versu eighteen joy a drop in the bucket. But

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<v Speaker 1>a better example that I have seen that I really

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<v Speaker 1>liked is over in Nigeria. So in Nigeria it's important,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an important example. And the reason why is because

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<v Speaker 1>what happened is in the United States, we got the

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<v Speaker 1>Internet very quickly because we had phone lines everywhere, and

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<v Speaker 1>then eventually we had phone inner wired internet, and then

0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:34.719
<v Speaker 1>we got to wireless internet like our phones. But in

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>places like Africa, they leap frogged us, went straight to

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<v Speaker 1>mobile devices, straight to wireless internet. And so there are

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<v Speaker 1>much more uh, much more likely to adopt cryptocurrencies or

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<v Speaker 1>central digital currencies than the United States. UM. And that's

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>exactly what happened. And so in UM in Nigeria they

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<v Speaker 1>have the digital currency UH called the e Nyara and

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<v Speaker 1>um it says that e n I era regulate the

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<v Speaker 1>digital currency plan falters. It falls as the Nigerians are

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<v Speaker 1>defiant on cryptocurrency. Less than zero point five percent of

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Nigerians are using the digital currency, so zero point five

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 1>percent are using it UM. The regulators across the world

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<v Speaker 1>are scrutinizing every move because they want to know what's

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 1>going to happen there and how do we get more

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 1>people to use it. And now they're offering UM. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to go into like the rickshaws, into like

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<v Speaker 1>the taxi industry, and they're offering a five percent discount

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>to drivers and passengers of people who will use this.

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:36.799
<v Speaker 1>They're trying anything they can. They're subsidizing those rides to

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<v Speaker 1>get people to use it, but so far it's only

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<v Speaker 1>attracted one out of every two d people in the

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 1>continent's most populous country. It says that the central banks

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<v Speaker 1>focus on the digital currencies, creating confusion among many Nigerians

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<v Speaker 1>who felt to see the difference between the government backed

0:34:54.800 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 1>in and cryptocurrencies. Um the heavy promotion of just as

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 1>they're also cracking down on cryptocurrencies has them be fuddled.

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 1>It says, they don't understand what what's the difference here.

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:11.319
<v Speaker 1>I thought the government said cryptocurrency is bad, but now

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 1>you want us to use this cryptocurrency, and so that's

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>why the results have been very very disappointing. As they say.

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<v Speaker 1>I like this part here though, says Um. Here's the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why virtual currencies have lurard residents of Africa's top

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>oil producer as a hedge against inflation and currency depreciation.

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 1>So people have gone to cryptocurrencies as a hedge against

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 1>inflation and depreciation. But the e ni ara is is

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 1>a proxy for the same money, and the people have

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 1>distrust on it. So they're like, why would we use

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<v Speaker 1>a digital version of the same bad currency that we

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<v Speaker 1>already have that has all of the bad attributes in it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's even worse. So it's a is here that

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<v Speaker 1>nire does not address any of these basic use cases.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't address any of the problems that with the

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<v Speaker 1>money um and it's even worse because now you want

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<v Speaker 1>to have total control over what we can spend on

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<v Speaker 1>our money, and that's the battle that's abouttle we're at.

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<v Speaker 1>CBDCs will fix nothing. They will do nothing to uh

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<v Speaker 1>to to fix the high inflation or the debasement that

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<v Speaker 1>we're facing. They will only be more oppressive. Hopefully that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. Hopefully understand the difference of the CBDCs versus

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<v Speaker 1>cash versus bitcoin. You're listening to the Mark Moa show

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the decentralized revolution and the battle over money,

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<v Speaker 1>and thanks for listening.