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Speaker 1: It's a Tuesday. We are live in Chicago. Big dominoes

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Speaker 1: fallen yesterday, a few more dominoes, and free agency in

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Speaker 1: the NFL falling today. We are live wherever you may

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Speaker 1: be and however you may be listening.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for making us part of your day.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's something I haven't said much in the last

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Speaker 1: twenty years. Man, the Raiders really know what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: This is why the NFL is great. You don't need tanking.

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Speaker 1: You can get better through trades, the draft, free agency.

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Speaker 1: The NFL gives you so many avenues to get good. Overnight.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Linderbaum, great center from Baltimore, is now a Raider.

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Speaker 1: My favorite signing of free agency A plus plus. Get

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Speaker 1: to that in a second. I absolutely love that signing.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Naylor, the receiver and number three receiver from Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: not much of a paycheck, way underrated signing Eric Stokes

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Speaker 1: re signing him at corner outstanding. Ideally in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: you'd love to have great ownership at the top, but

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Speaker 1: the Bears and the Raiders don't. But both have really,

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Speaker 1: really ascending general managers John Spytech. For the Raiders to

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Speaker 1: get two firsts for Max Crosby in a year in

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Speaker 1: which he was banged up is a hull. And remember

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Speaker 1: that Ravens pick to the Raiders that that picks fourteen,

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Speaker 1: So they had the number one pick for Nanda Mendoza

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Speaker 1: and the fourteenth pick, so they're gonna get two absolute

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Speaker 1: if they want Day one starters. Not to mention and

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Speaker 1: it just this is what's great. Pathetic to playoffs in

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Speaker 1: the NFL is a regular occurrence for of the last

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Speaker 1: seven Super Bowls, for the last seven featured a team

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Speaker 1: that didn't even make the playoffs the previous year. Last

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Speaker 1: year Seattle and New England two for two. No other

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Speaker 1: league can do that. If you are lousy perpetually in

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Speaker 1: this league, like Cleveland the Jets, it is all self inflicted.

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Speaker 1: Like the two hundred and thirty million guaranteed two Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson and all of you knew the minute the ink

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Speaker 1: was dry that was a terrible deal. Have you also

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Speaker 1: noticed what the Raiders are doing, and this is not

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Speaker 1: a coincidence. They are citing players from win organizations like

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Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Ravens and the Bills and the Packers.

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Speaker 1: They're taking people from winning cultures. Okay, now there is

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Speaker 1: some dumb money in free agency. You can kind of

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Speaker 1: see it, and it's obvious. I think Zion Johnson from

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Speaker 1: Cleveland getting fifty million. Chargers just let him walk. That

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Speaker 1: was the worst guard center guard experience in the entire league.

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Speaker 1: And gosh, what a shot. Cleveland overpaid for it. So

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Speaker 1: or the Jets last season given a couple of years

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Speaker 1: and forty million to Justin Fields, probably wasn't going to

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Speaker 1: work out. But I feel like when I'm watching the

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Speaker 1: Raiders this offseason, I am watching what the Bears did

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Speaker 1: last offseason. Go get a sharp, respected young offensive coach

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Speaker 1: for your young quarterback. Get a pro Bowl level center

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Speaker 1: to call the audibles, most underrated position in the sport.

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Speaker 1: Go grab a receiver or two if you can find

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Speaker 1: him in the lead or draft them, give give your

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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, since the Max Crosby deal on Friday,

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Speaker 1: the Raiders have had the most positive, uplifting five days

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Speaker 1: when Fernando Mendoza a month and a half two months ago,

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Speaker 3: Going to the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Now I've got Brock Bauers, best young tight end in football,

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Speaker 1: after Creed Humphrey and Kansas City. I've got an offensive coach,

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Speaker 1: I honestly feel the Raiders feel like that buddy you

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Speaker 1: have that's like thirty seven years old and finally has

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Speaker 4: Let's say the value for Tyler Linderbaum is twenty three

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Speaker 5: Right, the center is a huge part of the pre snap.

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Speaker 4: Operation when it comes to setting protections and all of

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Speaker 1: what the Dolphins did. Raiders and the Dolphins. What's happening?

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Speaker 1: Malik willis at only twenty two million dollars. Here's why

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Speaker 1: I love it because the new coach of Miami, Jeff Hafley,

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Speaker 1: So this is not buying something off a used car

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Speaker 1: we got to go get that guy. And at twenty

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Speaker 1: two million, it's a bargain. People say, well, I mean

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Speaker 1: he's only had a handful of starts. Folks, how many

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Speaker 1: How long did it take to watch Justin Herbert first

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Speaker 1: the air. I said the GM doesn't know what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: Probably the nicest guy in the world. That's you got

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Speaker 1: to be kidding me. A small, marginally athletic, concussion prone

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Speaker 1: where all the good teams playing windy cold weather in January,

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Speaker 1: are you doing? Malik Willis is not this. I've seen

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Speaker 1: enough of Malik Willis Okay, really good arm for his size,

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Speaker 1: the coach and the GM of Miami were in Green

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Speaker 1: just keep well. I mean, you haven't seen that much.

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Speaker 1: I was first day with my wife seven eight minutes in.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's the one. It just doesn't take that.

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Speaker 1: I've been saying this about those music shows. I don't

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Speaker 1: America's got talent. You can tell two lyrics in you're

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Speaker 3: And I don't know anything about moot music.

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Speaker 1: So I oh, I know, when I see Malik willis

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Speaker 1: arm athleticism, you know he's got a good work ethic

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Speaker 6: I remember when he came out, a lot of people

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Speaker 6: he was the third string quarterback in Tennessee and he

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Speaker 6: was an afterthought and it was about Well Levis and

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Speaker 6: Mason Rudolph and these guys. And you know, clearly your

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Speaker 6: environment does matter. And I think Malik is a great

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Speaker 6: example of a guy that plays within the system, has

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got six starts.

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Speaker 1: I think you saw him get inserted into a game,

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Speaker 3: You say, well, green Bay's got good coaching. Are you

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Speaker 1: Every time I bring up Matt Lafleur, everybody wants him fired.

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Speaker 3: In Wisconsin. You tell me you don't like the coaching

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Speaker 1: Bay, and now you tell me you don't like Malik Willis, Well,

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Speaker 1: why is he so good? He's either good or the

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Speaker 1: I think Matt Lafleur is a good coach, and I

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Speaker 1: think Malik Willis is really talented. And I do not

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Speaker 1: think you need that much time they're paying him twenty

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Speaker 1: two million. I mean, they're here's all you need to

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Speaker 1: the next two years. They have to incorp moving off Tua.

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Speaker 1: So anybody that says whether they're both a little undersized,

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Speaker 1: this kid's the opposite of Tua. He's wildly dynamic athletically.

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Speaker 1: He's got a big, big arm and plays without any

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Speaker 3: A lot of him.

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Speaker 1: If you only draft and develop or acquire quarterbacks, that

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Speaker 1: everybody's seen a lot of you get into you get

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Speaker 1: into bidding wars, right Like, it's like nil. If you

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Speaker 1: knows he's great, you got to spend seven million dollars.

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Speaker 1: You do what the Indiana Hoosiers did, and you go

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Speaker 1: get Fernando Mendoza from Coal and there's no bidding war,

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Speaker 1: and you get him for a reasonable price.

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Speaker 3: So if you're only going to invest.

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Speaker 1: In odd vious stuff, like when the Denver Broncos went

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Speaker 1: replacing Tim Tebow. They're like seven teams wanted Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 1: That's what's gonna cost you. But to get a Darnold

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Speaker 1: I think the price tag the player, the fit Raiders, Dolphin,

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Speaker 1: it is a new day in the NFL. JMC all fight.

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Speaker 1: Now we got gonna have some more signings. Diana Russini

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Speaker 1: in forty minutes from now forty five minutes. But now

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean there are teams that overspent. Alec Pierce

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Speaker 1: I'd want to pay Alec Pearce, who I like, who

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Speaker 1: I think is a really good player. They moved off Pittman.

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Speaker 1: Also, it tells you people don't love the draft. So

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Speaker 7: And so I've got to ask about the Kenneth Walker thing.

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Speaker 1: So, and I don't know why baseball fans understand this.

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Speaker 1: A little bit like having the coolest convertible sports car

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Speaker 3: And I've said this for years.

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Speaker 1: little bit trapped, and but I mean there's worse things

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Speaker 1: in the world being trapped with a Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: tight end who's still durable and productive.

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Speaker 3: But you don't love it.

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Speaker 7: I mean, listen, it's I'm sure Mahomes is thrilled and

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Speaker 7: the locker room's thrilled. In the stadium in the league.

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Speaker 7: You know the league loves hey. Look the Newlyweds. We've

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Speaker 7: got him on on Monday night, on Thursday night, on Saturday,

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Speaker 7: they're going to be force veted league. But if you

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Speaker 7: look at the roster, Colin, I mean they lost two

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Speaker 7: starting cornerbacks to the Rams, two starters including their best

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Speaker 7: guy McDuffie. Go look at that secondary They got nobody.

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Speaker 7: The linebackers are weak. I'm just again, I thought the

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Speaker 7: Raiders had an awesome day. I like what you said

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Speaker 7: at the outset. Did does Chiefs have a good date

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Speaker 7: getting Travis Kelce back in paying Kenneth Walker the highest

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Speaker 7: guaranteed money for any free agent running back.

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Speaker 1: Ever, by the way, Walker, this is what happens when

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Speaker 1: you pay Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we just had a Super Bowl with Sam Darnold on

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Speaker 1: a team friendly deal and Drake May rookie contract. So

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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not hard to figure out bo

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Speaker 1: Nicks should have made the Super Bowl. Drake May did

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Speaker 1: the year before. It was Josh McDaniel in the Conference Championship.

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Speaker 1: Why because he's on the rookie contract. So you know,

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Speaker 1: you when you pay ma Holmes or any quarterback that

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Speaker 1: kind of money, like Dak Prescott. You have to hit.

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Speaker 1: You have to do a John Snyder with a Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: You have to hit on every pick at the top

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Speaker 1: of your board. Not only do they have to be

459
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Speaker 1: good players, they have to be stars. To get Devin Witherspoon,

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Speaker 1: you have to get elite players, Gray's Zabel. You have

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Speaker 1: to hit on star players who can play immediately. And

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Speaker 1: Kansas City is well run, smartly, gmmed, but they've missed

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Speaker 1: on just enough you know, wide receiver. The running back

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Speaker 1: out of LSU late first.

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Speaker 5: Round miss edwards hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Yep, that was a miss.

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Speaker 1: So they've just it feels a little bit, correct me

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Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, Jmack. It feels like the Niners John

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Speaker 1: Lynch has missed on just enough wide receiver talent and

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Speaker 1: Kansas City and they're both well run organizations. But what

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Speaker 1: happens is you get old and you have to re

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Speaker 1: sign old players because you're trying to keep this Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl window open. And I don't see it with San

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Speaker 1: Francisco and their division, I don't And by the way,

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Speaker 1: Niners in chiefs arguably the two best divisions, So I

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Speaker 1: think the Niners and the Chiefs to me feel like

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Speaker 1: they've kind of they and it's not a good draft

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Speaker 1: for what the Chiefs need.

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Speaker 3: Outside of right tackle. It's a good right tackle.

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Speaker 7: I like your Warriors two timelines analogy with the Niners.

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Speaker 5: That's good.

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Speaker 7: The only problem is brock Purty. He's my guy. He's

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Speaker 7: no Seth Curry. Okay, he's not going to bring him

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Speaker 7: to the super Bowl. That's a tough one.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and Neon Easter not a Empacific.

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Speaker 3: Well, in a move that is.

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Speaker 1: Sending fear throughout the NFL, the Jets just signed Geno

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Speaker 1: Smith backward all started.

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Speaker 7: Gus Hey, Geno Smith just helped the Raiders get Fernando Mendoza.

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Speaker 3: All right, he's going to help the Jets get Arch Manning.

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Speaker 3: Let's not listen. I wish him well.

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Speaker 1: All these guys that it's a flat circle, all these

494
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Speaker 1: guys that are moving around the league and they go

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Speaker 1: back to where they started. I'm happy for him. Good

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Speaker 1: for him, all right. Matt hasselback eighteen NFL seasons. I

497
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Speaker 1: got so many questions to ask him, so.

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Speaker 3: I have for years and years.

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Speaker 1: I have argued with not argued, but debated with NFL

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Speaker 1: people that the center is the most underrated position in football.

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Speaker 1: It's first of all, it's academic and physical, it's calling

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Speaker 1: your audibles and if you have an inexperienced quarterback. Ben

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Speaker 1: Johnson in Chicago got this. Nothing can be a better

504
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Speaker 1: friend to Caleb than you know, Drew Dolman. So to me,

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Speaker 1: my favorite pick trade free agent signing is Tyler Linderbaum, who,

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Speaker 1: after Creed humphreyes maybe the best center in football. So

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Speaker 1: you tell me, what does a center, a veteran center,

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Speaker 1: I think he is now he counts as a veteran

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Speaker 1: four or five years in the league.

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Speaker 3: What does that do for a rookie quarterback like Mendoza.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you nailed it, Colin.

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Speaker 6: And it's not only a veteran center, it's a veteran

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Speaker 6: center that's played it with a great program with an

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Speaker 6: elite MVP caliber quarterback like he gets it.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 6: I just speaking from experience as a young quarterback. Some

517
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Speaker 6: of the hardest things to do are in past protection,

518
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Speaker 6: in audibles, that the line of scrimmage, third down, and

519
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Speaker 6: you rely so much on the guy in front of you,

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Speaker 6: the guy snapping you the ball. He's not only the

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Speaker 6: leader of the offensive line, he's the leader of the

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Speaker 6: huddle before you step into the huddle. You know, I

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Speaker 6: remember when I first got traded to Seattle. We had

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Speaker 6: a veteran center there named Robbie Tobek. He was the

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Speaker 6: leader of our team. Not a household name, but he

526
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Speaker 6: was the leader of our team. And when I stepped

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Speaker 6: into that huddle, everybody shut up and they were listening

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Speaker 6: to me because he got him ready for me stepping

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Speaker 6: into that huddle.

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Speaker 5: Like, I'm grateful for that.

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Speaker 6: So what the New England Patriots did with Garrett Bradbury

532
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Speaker 6: last year, you know, Drake May's first year, starting to

533
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Speaker 6: give him a you know, maybe not as physically talented

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Speaker 6: as a blocker, but a leader up there so Drake

535
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Speaker 6: can focus on kind of growing and learning as a quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Now in year two, they don't need him. They trade

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Speaker 6: him and they're going to move a young player into center.

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Speaker 6: But I think it's very underrated.

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Speaker 1: So I understood the same Ravens going after Max Crosby

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Speaker 1: because nobody the last five years had blown more fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter leads. And I've said this about Max Crosby, Matt

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Speaker 1: is that with the Raiders. They trail in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: so Max Crosby doesn't get that many sack opportunities. The

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Speaker 1: Ravens lead in the fourth quarter, the Bills lead in

545
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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, the Rams lead. So spending money even

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Speaker 1: over spending a little bit on a rush end for

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Speaker 1: a team that leads eighty percent of the time late

548
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Speaker 1: in games, I'm going to I'm all for that. I

549
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Speaker 1: think Max Crosby was wasted. Still highly productive, but kind

550
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Speaker 1: of wasted in Vegas last two years. Now there are

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Speaker 1: those that think that's too much first round picks, kind

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Speaker 1: of expensive. Where are you on Max to the Ravens.

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Speaker 6: Well, look what the market said. I mean, there were

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Speaker 6: other teams in play for this. I think the Seattle

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Speaker 6: Seahawks would have done this deal. They just didn't have

556
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Speaker 6: as sexy a first round picks to give away because

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Speaker 6: they're such a good team. Now, I think, listen, Max

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Speaker 6: Crosby has the respect of the NFL players, teammates, opponents, coaches, scouts, everybody.

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Speaker 5: And he's not a one trick pony.

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Speaker 6: A lot of these guys that come up with all

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Speaker 6: these they're great at rushing the passer, they're not great

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Speaker 6: against the run.

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Speaker 5: This dude's the real deal in every way.

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Speaker 6: I mean he's always at the top of the list TFLs,

565
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Speaker 6: tackles for loss in the run game, you know, when

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Speaker 6: we would play against the guy that was just trying

567
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Speaker 6: to get sacks, he'd run right at him. You know,

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Speaker 6: he's kind of a liability to the team defense. There's

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Speaker 6: nothing like that with Max Crosby. He's the real deal

570
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Speaker 6: in the run game, the past game, on the field,

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Speaker 6: off the field, an identity setter.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's a dog. That's a big get. I

573
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Speaker 5: don't think it's too much compensation at all.

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Speaker 3: Okay, j Maack disagrees with me.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you need to see anymore with Malik Willis.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jeff Hafley's practiced against him for two years

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Speaker 1: and he's like, get me that guy. I think that

578
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Speaker 1: stuff matters. I know he's only got six starts, but

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Speaker 1: every time I've watched him, I feel like I get

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Speaker 1: the same guy. Athletic composed. I mean he obviously half

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Speaker 1: lea practiced again, he saw his work ethic.

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Speaker 6: Your thoughts on that move, well, it's a big deal.

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Speaker 6: I mean, who your quarterback is is a big deal.

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Speaker 6: Jeff Haffley learned that the hard way when he was

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Speaker 6: a head coach at Boston College never quite got the

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Speaker 6: quarterback right. And it's a thing. So he knows how

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Speaker 6: important it is getting the quarterback right. With that being said,

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Speaker 6: you mentioned it only six games, but Jeff Hafley got

589
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Speaker 6: to see him every single day, every single day, pretending

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Speaker 6: to be the opponent's starting quarterback. You know, I spent

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Speaker 6: three years backing up Brett Favre in Green Bay, and

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Speaker 6: you know, while I was in that offense, that Mike

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Speaker 6: Holmgren offense that you know was carried, you know, from

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Speaker 6: coach to coach.

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Speaker 5: Similar here with the Lafleur offense.

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Speaker 6: The defensive coaches, I feel like I won them over

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Speaker 6: before I won the offensive coaches over because they saw

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Speaker 6: me every day. And so I think it's a similar

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Speaker 6: situation with Malik. I think Malik is a guy that

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Speaker 6: scouts have kind of, you know, not been in love with.

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Speaker 6: Maybe offensive coaches in his career have been like slow

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Speaker 6: to love. His college coach, you know, threw him under

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Speaker 6: the bus pre draft. You know, there's some of that

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Speaker 6: kind of stuff. But these defensive which is they say,

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Speaker 6: you know what, this guy's humble, he's hard working. On

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Speaker 6: game day, he plays the way that I see him

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Speaker 6: play every day in practice. And he's coachable, and I'll

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Speaker 6: take that. And I think that's what Jeff Afflee and

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Speaker 6: company see in Malik. And you know he also comes

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Speaker 6: at the right price. So put me in the group

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Speaker 6: of people that thinks this is another young quarterback that

612
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Speaker 6: was developed in Green Bay. He's twenty six years old.

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Speaker 6: His best football is in front of him.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll tell you a move that I like the player,

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Speaker 1: but I don't get the move. The Niners are old

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Speaker 1: in division. The Rams and Seahawks have better rosters and

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Speaker 1: are much younger. And we've seen the Rams in recent

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Speaker 1: years and the Seahawks play the.

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Speaker 3: Niners and they look younger.

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Speaker 1: So I like Mike Evans, but you got Trent Williams

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Speaker 1: and Kittle and McCaffrey and Bosa, and there's some injuries

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Speaker 1: and Mike Evans who was dinged up last year. I

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Speaker 1: can like the player, but question the move. What do

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Speaker 1: you make of it?

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Speaker 6: I think the forty nine ers are probably surprised that

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Speaker 6: Mike Evans wants to go there as well a little bit.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's probably taken less money to leave Florida

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Speaker 6: to go play in California on a team Like you said,

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Speaker 6: that's a tough division. But he's a dog and he produces.

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Speaker 6: And I think if you look in that division in

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Speaker 6: this kind of Kyle Shanahan offense, what you know he

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Speaker 6: you know, think back to what he did with Julio

633
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Speaker 6: Jones when he was the offensive coordinator in Atlanta. Like

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Speaker 6: that's the vision for it, kind of what McVeigh has

635
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Speaker 6: done with Devantae Adams in the red zone with Seattle

636
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Speaker 6: Seahawks have done with JSN. We can make you a

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Speaker 6: part of this system that helps us with our running

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Speaker 6: back Christian McCaffrey, with our tight end game, and then

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Speaker 6: in the red zone you can be a thousand yard

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Speaker 6: receiver with a you know, a ton of double digit touchdowns.

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Speaker 6: Like I think it fits and I think for Mike Evans,

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Speaker 6: he's probably like, hey, I'm chasing a ring here. It's

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Speaker 6: not so much about the money. I'm chasing a ring

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Speaker 6: and relevance. Sometimes when you play on one of these

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Speaker 6: teams like Tampa it's not a huge market, you kind

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Speaker 6: of feel a little bit forgotten and you know now

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Speaker 6: here you are in San fran kind of one of

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Speaker 6: the premier organizations in the NFL prime time quite a bit.

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Speaker 5: I think there's just an excitement as a player there.

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Speaker 6: I get the age thing, but it's a good quarterback,

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Speaker 6: a good team, and I think there's a lot of

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Speaker 6: guys out there that would just love to play for

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Speaker 6: Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 5: Seems like Mike Evans is one of them.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of people push back on Travis Kelcey,

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Speaker 1: but my take is he had all eight hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: Nobody else in the team had over six hundred, and

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Speaker 1: they've missed on a lot of receivers. Sky Moore, Nicole Hardman,

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Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown gets stinged up. Rashid Rice is talented but

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Speaker 1: kind of immature. Javier Worthy's talented, but he's a gadget guy.

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Speaker 1: Take me to your career, the comfort level with the

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Speaker 1: oldest receiver or skill player you ever played with. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like when Brady went down to Tampa, he

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Speaker 1: got on the phone with Gronk and he's like, dude,

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Speaker 1: I just I'd like, there's a comfort level with quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: and take me to it. Why you think Mahomes probably

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Speaker 1: pounded the table for Travis Kelcey.

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Speaker 5: And I don't think it's just Mahomes. I mean, for

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Speaker 5: sure it is.

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Speaker 6: You see what Aaron Rodgers does every year trying to

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Speaker 6: get his buddies back together because he understands them.

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Speaker 5: They understand each other.

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Speaker 6: There's like a there's a there's a chemistry there that

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Speaker 6: just can't be built overnight, especially with these off seasons.

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Speaker 6: But no, he's a Hall of Fame player who didn't

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Speaker 6: have a Hall of Fame year last year. And so

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Speaker 6: I think if there's a you know, that look you

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Speaker 6: in the eye kind of thing, like, hey, are you

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Speaker 6: willing to put everything on.

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Speaker 5: The line for one more run at this?

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Speaker 6: Like one more job kind of like a I don't

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Speaker 6: want to say Ocean's eleven because I don't think they're

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Speaker 6: that old, but like, let's get to let's get the

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Speaker 6: band back together for one more run. Last job we

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Speaker 6: did last year that wasn't it missed the mark? You know,

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Speaker 6: But like, there's so much more that Travis Kelce brings

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Speaker 6: to the table that you're not going to find in

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Speaker 6: the box score, in the stat sheet, you know, on

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Speaker 6: the field, off the field, But guy, dare you go

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Speaker 6: try to watch the Kansas City Chiefs offense and watch

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Speaker 6: their cutups and try to tell me, like what the

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Speaker 6: tight end was supposed to do on that play, because

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Speaker 6: Kelsey does whatever he wants to do and within the

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Speaker 6: framework of the offense in Mahomes is with him. But

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Speaker 6: to think that this is going to be the same

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Speaker 6: exact looking offense you got Eric b enemy back, I

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Speaker 6: think it's going to be you know, you got the

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Speaker 6: big running back and Kenneth Walker. I think it's going

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Speaker 6: to be a run first team and using Travis Kelsey

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Speaker 6: situationally in the third downs, in the red zone and

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Speaker 6: being a little bit smarter about it so that he

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Speaker 6: is a little bit more productive than he was last year.

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Speaker 1: You were at the combine, did you hear some of

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Speaker 1: these rumors that have transpired?

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Speaker 5: Of course.

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Speaker 6: I mean that people think the combines for workouts, like, no,

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Speaker 6: it's for pre agency. It's like the pre free agency,

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Speaker 6: like all the talks who's going to go where, what's

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Speaker 6: the money going to be? You know, who are you

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Speaker 6: going to franchise, who you're not going to franchise, Who's

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Speaker 6: who's getting.

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Speaker 5: A transition tag.

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Speaker 6: It kind of sets the table for the real meal

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Speaker 6: that is free agency that ends up being you know

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Speaker 6: what happens in the draft. You know, all that kind

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Speaker 6: of stuff. So it's I think it's a really important time,

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Speaker 6: you know, whether the guys work out or not.

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Speaker 1: I saw a story that the Raiders not necessarily they

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Speaker 1: may not start Fernando Mendoza, you know, like Flacco's name

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Speaker 1: was out there, and could you bring in a veteran.

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Speaker 3: Just for a year, How does that land for you?

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Speaker 5: I'm fine with that. I'm absolutely fine with that.

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Speaker 6: Look at the quarterbacks that have had just incredible careers,

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Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady.

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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes. They did not.

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Speaker 6: Start their first year. You know, I certainly did not.

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Speaker 6: I started my fourth year back to Brett Favre for

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Speaker 6: three years. I would have failed if I had. I

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Speaker 6: had to play earlier than that. Fernando Mendoza, he was

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Speaker 6: at the combine, not throwing. Spent a lot of time

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Speaker 6: with him, loved everything about him. But at the same time,

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Speaker 6: if you were saying to me, what would be the

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Speaker 6: best thing for his career, Yeah, listen, maybe watching Joe

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Speaker 6: Flacco start for the Raiders for an entire season might

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Speaker 6: be the best thing for the Raiders.

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Speaker 5: It might be the best thing for his career.

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Speaker 6: And that you know, you've heard Tom Brady talk a

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Speaker 6: lot about it, talk about it a lot about what

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Speaker 6: Drew Bledsoe meant to his career, watching Drew via pro,

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Speaker 6: watching Drew's process of leadership and how he prepared, how

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Speaker 6: he dealt with injuries, how he dealt with the media,

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Speaker 6: you know, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 5: So I would not be against that at all.

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Speaker 3: Matt Hasselbeck eighteen NFL seasons. Love having him on the show.

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Speaker 3: Good seen anybody all right?

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Speaker 5: Coll On Seabody, I love this stuff.

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Speaker 3: Diana Russini.

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Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck stopped by the show today for some contextualization

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Speaker 1: of what we've seen. Philadelphia Eagles have had a weird

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Speaker 1: last several months, coaching hires, defensive players, leaving, a coach retiring.

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Speaker 1: Howie Roseman has gone Bermuda Triangle. He just disappeared. I

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Speaker 1: have no idea where he's at. But the good news

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Speaker 1: for the.

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Speaker 3: Jets, Gino is coming back. Can't come home again. Maybe

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Speaker 3: with the Jets you can