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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Jettie and he Armstrong and Getty. Who doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to turn into a radio show that does a

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<v Speaker 2>deep dive on Humphrey's Executor, which is just a great phraser,

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<v Speaker 2>a great name for a legal case, Humphrey's Executor. It

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<v Speaker 2>all gets down to whether or not a president of

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<v Speaker 2>the United States can fire certain people that are in

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<v Speaker 2>the executive branch. In theory, as the head of the

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<v Speaker 2>executive branch, you'd think he could fire anybody in the

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<v Speaker 2>executive branch, but you can't because of Humphrey's Executor. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about that a little bit because

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court's looking at it right now and it

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<v Speaker 2>could have major implications. With Anastasia Bowden who joins us

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<v Speaker 2>on the Armstrong Ngetty Show, she's a senior attorney Equality

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<v Speaker 2>and Opportunity for the Pacific Legal Foundation. We've talked to

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<v Speaker 2>her before. Anastasia, how are you doing today? Yello? What's

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<v Speaker 2>going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Michael?

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me what's happening? Are you there?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh cool? Sorry, we must had her wrong button pressed

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that. How you doing.

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<v Speaker 1>End of the Supreme Court term?

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<v Speaker 3>Which, oh, can you can?

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<v Speaker 2>We try to fix that, Michael, And then we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>back to her. We're gonna ask her a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>about we're coming to the end of the Supreme Court term.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe hang up and try a different line. Yeah, just

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<v Speaker 2>get a different sell because sometimes, isn't that funny how

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<v Speaker 2>that works? Away? Have you ever done that? Sometimes if

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<v Speaker 2>you just hang up and call back, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you get a different cell tower or a different

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how cell phones even work, but in

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<v Speaker 2>some it goes from being crappy to perfectly fine. And

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<v Speaker 2>I do that all the time, and I've never understood why.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're coming to the end of the Supreme Court term.

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<v Speaker 2>Every year in June, the release oftentimes their most controversial

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<v Speaker 2>decisions come out in June for some reason, and they

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<v Speaker 2>announced them and then they head to the hills and

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<v Speaker 2>nobody can ask them a question about it, and when

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<v Speaker 2>then we all debate them on cable news shows as happening.

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<v Speaker 2>How are things looking, Michael? Nope, Ify, Well, that's disappointing

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<v Speaker 2>since what I was planning to talk about this entire

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<v Speaker 2>segment was talking to Anastasia Boden. I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>ask her about Anastasia. Why you named Anastasia? Is it

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<v Speaker 2>your mom's I did your parents fight over it? Did

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<v Speaker 2>it drive them apart? Or questions like it? Things are

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<v Speaker 2>looking good, Okay, let's try again. Moved outside? Okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Anastasia. Stepping outside. You were about to say, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that we're headed into June where the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 2>releases a lot of their decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>This is supposed to be the most exciting time. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the time we're all waiting for. There's only thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>cases left. It's the biggest cases of the term, the

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<v Speaker 1>spiciest ones. Everyone was signed on today to see what

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<v Speaker 1>the court would do. Which opinions they were going to release?

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<v Speaker 3>And what are they do?

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<v Speaker 1>They release two opinions on feel preemption and arbitration. The

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<v Speaker 1>facts are so boring. I feel that even mentioning the topic,

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<v Speaker 1>it's corrid.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fantastic. Well, first of all, why do they wait

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<v Speaker 2>until the very end to release these Is there a

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<v Speaker 2>strategy there?

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a little bit of strategy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>these things tend to be divisive and it's not the

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<v Speaker 1>court's fault. It's the government's fault. The government has invaded

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<v Speaker 1>so many aspects of our life that it forces the

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<v Speaker 1>Court into the position of having to rule on very

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<v Speaker 1>controversial things, and so people are naturally outraged. So the Court,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they want to wait to the end before

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to go to summer recess. But also because

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<v Speaker 1>these things are so controversial, I think there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of back and forth behind the scenes at the Court.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they're writing descents, they're trading the opinions, they're

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<v Speaker 1>making alterations. So it's just a technical, you know, procedural

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<v Speaker 1>thing as much as it's a strategic thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're I don't know if you heard me mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>at least briefly Humphrey's Executor and doing my dumb guy

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<v Speaker 2>explanation of what it means. But it is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>weird that we have a branch of government where the

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<v Speaker 2>person at the top of the president has a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of agencies in his branch and he can't touch them,

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<v Speaker 2>at least in theory. Because of that Humphrey's Executor executive ruling,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what they're looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. This is actually one of the good cases.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a big, big case because it would overturn

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one of a very big case in constitutional law,

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<v Speaker 1>been on the book since nineteen thirty five that says

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<v Speaker 1>that Congress can limit the president's ability to fire people

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<v Speaker 1>in the executive branch. And Congress says, hey, these are

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<v Speaker 1>independent agencies. Like independence is a good thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But the problem is.

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<v Speaker 2>And what branch then their own special fourth branch.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand that's exactly right. We don't want buocrats

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<v Speaker 1>to be independent. We want them to be politically accountable.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they don't answer to the president, who do

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<v Speaker 1>they answer to? No one there, they're not elected, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't answer to the people. So we need them to

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<v Speaker 1>answer to the president so that if they do something bad,

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<v Speaker 1>we can hold the president accountable and vote him out.

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<v Speaker 1>So years ago the Supreme Court blessed this scheme where

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<v Speaker 1>Congress can insulate bureaucrats from presidential accountability no matter what

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<v Speaker 1>they do. And now we're going to hear whether that's

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<v Speaker 1>a violation of the separation of powers and whether the

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<v Speaker 1>Constitution requires that the president be able to fire people

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<v Speaker 1>in the executive branch.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, at first blush, it seems to me that yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the president should have the ability to do that, and

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<v Speaker 2>they should be responsible to voters in that way. The

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<v Speaker 2>best examples to me being a lot of the environmental stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So Congress passes these laws that are very broad. Lets

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<v Speaker 2>the agencies get into the specifics of it, but then

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<v Speaker 2>aren't accountable to anybody, which is horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and make no mistake, Congress likes this scheme, right.

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<v Speaker 1>They pass these broad laws, they kick it off to

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<v Speaker 1>the aureucrats and they go, hey, go and force them.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, they Congress has no political accountability either.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, well, we didn't do it the bureaucrafts. Blame

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<v Speaker 1>the bureaucrats, right, so there're as much to blame as anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Congress ends up being to blame for lots of these days,

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<v Speaker 2>don't they They.

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<v Speaker 1>Do, and yet they seem to evade any accountability for it.

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<v Speaker 1>They just throw up their hands and say, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>too hard to get anything pass. Oh it's the bureaucrats.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh the present. I really like your style, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as it kind of an aside, do you think there's

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<v Speaker 2>any getting out of this situation where we are currently,

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<v Speaker 2>where Congress doesn't do their job, which causes the president

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<v Speaker 2>to go with a lot of you know, executive orders,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a bad way to govern and only lasts

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<v Speaker 2>as long as each presidency, or it ends up getting

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<v Speaker 2>thrown to the Supreme Court where they end up in

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<v Speaker 2>the most controversial spot because Congress won't do it. Is

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<v Speaker 2>there any way out of this?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the only way out of it is if

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<v Speaker 1>the people start holding their representatives account to themselves into

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<v Speaker 1>the constitution. But I think we've gotten to this place

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<v Speaker 1>where a lot of people feel helpless, They feel very

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<v Speaker 1>disconnected from Congress. They feel like there's nothing they can do,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know, it's just time for us to

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<v Speaker 1>realize we absolutely can and we have to demand more

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<v Speaker 1>of them. And you know that we have to also

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<v Speaker 1>demand Think about all the scandals that are plaguing Congress,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we kind of roll our eyes now

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<v Speaker 1>it seems kind of run of the mill. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not run of the mill, So we have to do

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<v Speaker 1>something about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would agree, And that the stats I've always liked

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<v Speaker 2>around this is Congress regularly pulls very low lower now

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<v Speaker 2>than it's ever pulled before for both parties, Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>in the teams or twenty percent, but like ninety five

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<v Speaker 2>percent of Congress people get reelected.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's the problem too, is you know that the

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<v Speaker 1>whole machine is set up for incumbency. So it's true

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a lot of hurdles to changing it. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I remain optimistic.

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<v Speaker 2>So if the Supreme Court decides, you know what, the

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<v Speaker 2>president can fire these people. They're in the executive branch.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the top executive. He can fire them. Any downside

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<v Speaker 2>to that, anything you're worried about. I mean, no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Fire them, you know, I mean, fire them all. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think really missing anything. I mean, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to realize that the principle wins out that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting that the people who oppose this type of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>they tend to oppose it in a particular administration. So people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it depends on who's in power, and they're like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to let them be independent. But the principle

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<v Speaker 1>is there, and I think the principle of separation of

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<v Speaker 1>powers and accountability to the people, I think that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to win out over.

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<v Speaker 2>The long run. Yeah, the idea of all these commissions

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<v Speaker 2>getting to write their lines of basically law because they

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<v Speaker 2>were giving a broad law that lets them write the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the lines of whatever you guys call it

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<v Speaker 2>code or something like that. The rules. I guess it's

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<v Speaker 2>the rules and all these different commissions that we all

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<v Speaker 2>have to follow in the then there's no there's no

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<v Speaker 2>way for us to push back.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Intimate details of our life. Gas stoves, Greek yogurt, dishwashers,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, things that we use every day, and so

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely they should be accountable tests.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent example gas stoves and Greek yogurt. Hey, Anastasia Boden,

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<v Speaker 2>we appreciate your time. Do they Thank you very much

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<v Speaker 2>for clarifying that. I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's good. Pacific Legal Foundation Senior Attorney, Anastasia Boden,

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<v Speaker 2>She is fantastic. If you can bring that sort of

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<v Speaker 2>whimsy to the hump freeze executor ruling, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a special talent right there. But we did create this

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<v Speaker 2>like weird kind of fourth branch that's all these agencies

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<v Speaker 2>that they get handed off, like we said, a very

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<v Speaker 2>broad law. Tim Sander, for our other legal friend, talks

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<v Speaker 2>about this a lot of time. Congress will will pass

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<v Speaker 2>a law that basically says you know, don't do any

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<v Speaker 2>bad things. And then they get to fill in the

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<v Speaker 2>rest these agencies, and they're not answerable to anybody. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>can fire them, and so they can decide, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>gas stoves are the worst thing that ever happened to the

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<v Speaker 2>human beings. We got to get rid of gas stoves

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<v Speaker 2>like what according to who? We don't like that, But

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<v Speaker 2>there's no pushback, and maybe after the Supreme Court ruling

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<v Speaker 2>there will be. They will have to worry about public

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<v Speaker 2>opinion when they make these decisions, or they will lose

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<v Speaker 2>their jobs, which is the way it should work. That's

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<v Speaker 2>fantas fantastic. Get a special gold star to anastage, or

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<v Speaker 2>send her an Armstrong and Getty oven Mitt or something

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<v Speaker 2>to let her know how pleased I was with her

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<v Speaker 2>apparents Okay, do I have an ad I'm supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>do here? Michael?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome? Well cool, Well then we will take a little

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<v Speaker 2>break and I'll come back with something much lighter. Stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 4>Alec Murdo's double murdered drama still has it all. A

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<v Speaker 4>new trial ahead gives new life to this Southern Gothic saga.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't never hurt Maggie Murden.

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<v Speaker 3>I would never hurt Paul Murder under any circumstances.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I had people in my real life bringing this

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<v Speaker 2>up to me when the news broke yesterday that this

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<v Speaker 2>guy uh got his conviction overturned, killed his wife and kid,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least that's what he was convicted of. Just

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<v Speaker 2>a horrible thing. And then the ability to sit there

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<v Speaker 2>in the court room and remember when he was crying

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<v Speaker 2>little pau Pau. I would never do that, and he

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<v Speaker 2>he's found guilty of it, and there's plenty of evidence

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<v Speaker 2>that he did it. What a scumbag, What a psychopath. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>here's more from the CBS report than what happened yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>Murda denied killing his wife and son in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 4>Prosecutors claimed he shot them to distract from embezzling millions

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<v Speaker 4>from his law firm and vulnerable clients. South Carolina Supreme

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<v Speaker 4>Court unanimously vacated those murder convictions, leading county clerk Becky

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<v Speaker 4>Hill for shocking jury interference, denying Murdau his right to

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<v Speaker 4>a fair when deliberations began, For example, Hill allegedly told

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<v Speaker 4>the jurors, well, this shouldn't take us long.

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<v Speaker 2>She later wrote a tell all book about the case,

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<v Speaker 2>What an Idiot. Wow, There's more.

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<v Speaker 4>Alec Murda's lawyers said they looked forward to a new trial,

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<v Speaker 4>which prosecutors promise and is coming. We believe we have

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<v Speaker 4>a duty to obviously pursue justice to all means. Have

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<v Speaker 4>you been surprised by the never ending fascination with this case.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a fascinating case.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean every single time that you thought it couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>get stranger.

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<v Speaker 3>Or more interesting, it did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there were so many angles to it that made

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<v Speaker 2>it fascinating the whole. I know what I'll do to

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<v Speaker 2>distract from these business problems is I'll murder my wife

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<v Speaker 2>and son and then everybody will feel all guilty about

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm going through. And what a freaking psychopath. He

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<v Speaker 2>did that to get out of his trouble from stealing

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<v Speaker 2>from various friends and people he's working with. And as

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<v Speaker 2>Joe pointed out yesterday, one of the things that he

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<v Speaker 2>did over the many years is he was an attorney

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<v Speaker 2>and he would take on people like you know it

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<v Speaker 2>had had something horrible happen to them, and he would

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<v Speaker 2>sue and get them money. They deserved the money and

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<v Speaker 2>they got the money because they were a victim of

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of awful thing that you know, the wood

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<v Speaker 2>chipper company did cause them to get their arm eaten

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<v Speaker 2>off by a wood chipper. And then he would get

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<v Speaker 2>a million of dollars, and then he would steal it

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<v Speaker 2>from them, He'd steal the money. He was just he's

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<v Speaker 2>just all kinds of a scumbag, leading to the worst

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<v Speaker 2>of it, being willing to shoot his wife and son

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<v Speaker 2>in cold blooded murder. Then what about this clerk who

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<v Speaker 2>just couldn't keep her mouth shut. Another weird twist in

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing. Oh and then the angle that I

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<v Speaker 2>think was the initial hook is that he and his kids,

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<v Speaker 2>like his kids, had some mysterious ories too, where that

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<v Speaker 2>it looked like they were out boting, hammered, drunk and

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<v Speaker 2>somebody ends up drowning, but no charges are ever filed

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<v Speaker 2>because they were such a powerful family in that part

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<v Speaker 2>of South Carolina. His kids got away with acting like lunatics.

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<v Speaker 2>He got away with acting like lunatics his dad and

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<v Speaker 2>his grandpa. That's how many generations in your old boy

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<v Speaker 2>South were able to either have cops on the payroll

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<v Speaker 2>or judges or payoff juries or whatever. They did for

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<v Speaker 2>years and years and years to live that lifestyle. There

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be a long form book or movie made

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<v Speaker 2>about that someday. But I think our big concern for

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<v Speaker 2>most of us was when we all heard it had

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<v Speaker 2>been overturned, that he was going to get away with

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<v Speaker 2>it and get out, and apparently he's not actually going

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<v Speaker 2>to get out because he's still got all the other

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<v Speaker 2>crimes that he was guilty of. They're just going to

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<v Speaker 2>have to retry it and we'll go through this again.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fascinating story. So that's that. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say anything, just that. If you listen to the show regularly,

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<v Speaker 2>you know Katie Green, Katie Katie the news Lady, Katie Green,

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<v Speaker 2>the news Machine. She hasn't been here for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>She went on maternity leave, if you know what maternity

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<v Speaker 2>leave is, and she talked a lot about over the

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<v Speaker 2>last six months or so, her due date being roughly

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<v Speaker 2>May the twelfth, which was two days ago, and she

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<v Speaker 2>has been missing. So I won't put any finer a

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<v Speaker 2>point on that. But she is coming on in just

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<v Speaker 2>a few minutes to make an announcement, so stick around

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<v Speaker 2>for that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm hoping for triplets.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, did she have a baby? I don't know. Did

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<v Speaker 2>she have a baby? We don't know. Triplets. You'd have

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<v Speaker 2>thought they'd have picked that up on the ultrasound, wouldn't you.

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<v Speaker 2>That'd be a surprise him the lead back in the

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<v Speaker 2>day when they had no idea and you'd go in thinking, boy,

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<v Speaker 2>am I ready for parenthood? And you'd find out you

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<v Speaker 2>got two or three or five? Oh my god, that'd

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<v Speaker 2>be so crazy. Not only did you not know if

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<v Speaker 2>it was a boy or a girl, you didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna be raising one baby or five all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden. Not that that happened a lot, how

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<v Speaker 2>much time I got my go I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I want to start into this story or not. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>one minute I was doing I got a regular conversations

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<v Speaker 2>about a variety of different things that I'll talk about

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<v Speaker 2>with chatbots, you know, like maybe you want to buy

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<v Speaker 2>a house, and do you think this would be a

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<v Speaker 2>good idea, this be a good idea, or do I

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<v Speaker 2>need to get this house fixed up this much to sell?

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<v Speaker 2>Or what a blah blah. You have these conversations, and

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<v Speaker 2>have you ever had this experience where you push back

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<v Speaker 2>on these chatbots every time I push back on a

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<v Speaker 2>chat bot, it caves, and I just wonder if other

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<v Speaker 2>people have that experience, Like I pushed back on a

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<v Speaker 2>point that chatbot make and I just told they're completely wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>and why that's fair? Pushback honestly you're right, that you

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah, and then explains how you were right.

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<v Speaker 2>Does anybody else have that experience with the chatbots where

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<v Speaker 2>every time you push back at caves. That's not a

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<v Speaker 2>very good sounding board, is it? If every time you

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<v Speaker 2>tell them they're wrong, they say, I agree, I agree

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<v Speaker 2>you you're right, I am wrong? Anybody do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Text line four one five two nine five KFTC or

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<v Speaker 2>if there any chapbots that stand their ground. I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like a chat butt that stands its ground and says, no,

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<v Speaker 2>here's why you're wrong, armstrong and geddy.

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<v Speaker 3>Katie Kay the news babe, bring it to the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, A smile, stal right, a stostal life. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>help but stop and stick can't help but stop and stare.

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<v Speaker 4>Breaking stories with us. She gotta gift, So Katie.

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<v Speaker 3>Katy the news lady, you're all glad.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, with a smile so bright and something or other.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't remember the lyrics, but that

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<v Speaker 2>is really good. That's a song I made about Katie Green. Katie,

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<v Speaker 2>Katie the news lady who joins us. Now, Katie, you

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<v Speaker 2>have a special announcement to make.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm alive and baby Donovan is here and he's

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<v Speaker 3>doing great.

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<v Speaker 2>You had a baby.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a baby.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was expected, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this is very well planned out.

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<v Speaker 2>This. You know, you've seen those shows pregnant and didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know it or they'll just the yeah, what was it?

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<v Speaker 3>What did we say? It was like, oh, so you're

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<v Speaker 3>not just stupid and.

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<v Speaker 2>Fat right now? Though we've been talking to if you're

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<v Speaker 2>just if you've this the first time you've ever listened

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<v Speaker 2>to the show. Yes, Katie has been talking about her

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<v Speaker 2>and her husband starting a family and the whole pregnancy

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<v Speaker 2>and everything for a very very long time. Anyway, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to tell us?

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<v Speaker 3>Your mom now?

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<v Speaker 2>Which is very very exciting. Congratulations, what's the move?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you? The mood is great. I the whole you know,

0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.680
<v Speaker 3>first time I'm especially first time moms. They're like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, make sure you create a birth plan. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>shred it there there's no way to know. But I

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<v Speaker 3>was in labor actively for twenty six hoursoh and this

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<v Speaker 3>little dude, I have been telling all the nurses that

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<v Speaker 3>I pictured him like a cat over a bathtub. He

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<v Speaker 3>just didn't you know. I was on all sides, didn't

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<v Speaker 3>want to come out. I like it here, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to see the world here. It's crap. So

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<v Speaker 3>so finally, after twenty six hours, my doctor looked at me,

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, you haven't nothing's changed at all. And so

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<v Speaker 3>I finally just opted for a sea section, which, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>that was an experience. I've never imagined being sliced basically

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<v Speaker 3>and half way awake.

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<v Speaker 2>You were awake for that. I don't know anything about

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<v Speaker 2>sea sections because I and I have to do it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have no reason to read up on them

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<v Speaker 2>since I didn't have to deal with it. So you

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<v Speaker 2>were awake, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So the initial plan was obviously to have a natural birth,

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<v Speaker 3>but not natural in this sense. I wanted all the drugs,

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<v Speaker 3>so I had an epidural, and then they decided to

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<v Speaker 3>take out the epidural and put in I guess, a spine.

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<v Speaker 3>They called it a spinal so it numbed me basically

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<v Speaker 3>from mid chest to my toes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would want whatever they gave Michael Jackson, just

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<v Speaker 2>short of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what I was hoping for. But they they

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<v Speaker 3>did that, and they numbed me out and wheeled me

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<v Speaker 3>back to the or and my doctor was just freaking incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>But I got wheeled into the r at seven pm

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<v Speaker 3>on Tuesday, and Donovan's official time of birth when they

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<v Speaker 3>got him out of me was seven point fifty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was awake for the whole thing, and you it,

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<v Speaker 3>it's wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't I can't even imagine, and uh.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, and there was no there was no sharp

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<v Speaker 3>pain or anything like that, but you can definitely feel

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<v Speaker 3>the pressure playing in the tug. Drew said he saw

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<v Speaker 3>he saw the doctor remove all of my insides and

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<v Speaker 3>place them aside.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crazy. Yeah, I don't. I honestly don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I could have watched that. Good on your husband, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's necessary. He sees your insides,

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<v Speaker 2>He's now seen your liver, so he's you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>knows what that looks like. Yeah, it's probably cute and blonde.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you, yeah, or or damaged. One of the two. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>She looked at it and he was like what he

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I saw all of your insides outside of you,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, okay, well wow yeah. And then

0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:58.040
<v Speaker 3>they got Donovan out and they had to take him

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<v Speaker 3>over to the nick you because he had some fluid

0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:04.200
<v Speaker 3>in his lungs and whatnot. But they took him over

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<v Speaker 3>there at you know, eight pm, and he was back

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<v Speaker 3>in our room with us doing just fine by three am.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's just darling.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's fantastic. That is. That is a cute baby.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know everybody says that. I don't always say that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just say nothing because sometimes babies look weird and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not there doesn't mean they're not gonna be cute later.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just you know, they've been crunched up on a

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<v Speaker 2>body forever, and your baby looks like the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>baby that you want to put on like a baby

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<v Speaker 2>food jar or some.

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<v Speaker 3>I really appreciate that, and I'm so with you on

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<v Speaker 3>like the alien baby thing. I've had that conversation so

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<v Speaker 3>many times where it's like, oh, look, how cute that

0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:45.280
<v Speaker 3>baby is. I'm like, no, no, it's not. It will be,

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<v Speaker 3>but right now it is. That's not cute. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 3>happens he's he's he's definitely. All the nurses who have

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<v Speaker 3>come in have been like, oh my gosh, he's actually

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<v Speaker 3>really cute.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it really is. It's a very cute baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Put him on Instagram and I'll put him on

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<v Speaker 3>the I'll put him on Twitter and stuff so you

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<v Speaker 3>guys can can see him if you're not on the

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<v Speaker 3>on the Gram.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we get to the whole, now you're a mom's stuff. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you feeling physically since you were a split open?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel shockingly I've been I mean I'm up walking,

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<v Speaker 3>uh paily talking to you right now. I've been trying

0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:23.639
<v Speaker 3>to spend limited time in bed. They they've been actually

0:23:23.760 --> 0:23:26.040
<v Speaker 3>kind of like, hey, you need to lay down and

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<v Speaker 3>chill out a little bit more than you are. But

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<v Speaker 3>my pain level, you know how they give you that

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<v Speaker 3>stupid ooh the scale of one to ten. I've been

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<v Speaker 3>between a two and a three and I think I five,

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<v Speaker 3>like once, yeah, okay, yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You're I assume you're your organs are back inside you.

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<v Speaker 2>I assume, I sure hope so, and the right order

0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:48.360
<v Speaker 2>and the right order yeah place. Yeah.

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:50.159
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was weird that I burped and a

0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:51.800
<v Speaker 3>part of my intestine came out of my mouth.

0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:54.600
<v Speaker 2>But you know whatever, that is pretty funny that you're

0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:57.159
<v Speaker 2>because I know you and your uh, your husband like

0:23:57.240 --> 0:23:58.920
<v Speaker 2>to have a drink now and then it's funny he

0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:00.720
<v Speaker 2>got to see your liver and check out. Okay, I

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:02.119
<v Speaker 2>guess we got a few good years left.

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:05.480
<v Speaker 3>We do. We've got a solid few more trips to

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 3>the bar.

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 2>So it's having lived through it a couple of times.

0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:17.719
<v Speaker 2>It's beyond words, but best you can do with words.

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Becoming a parent, parenthood so far, it.

0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:27.879
<v Speaker 3>Is a love that I didn't know was even possible.

0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:34.160
<v Speaker 3>He you know, it's it's I want to do anything

0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 3>and everything I can for the rest of my life

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 3>to protect this little guy. And he's just he's completely

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:40.640
<v Speaker 3>melted both of us.

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is stunning. I remember having this conversation with

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 2>my wife at the time. It was like shocking and

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:50.639
<v Speaker 2>not shocking to us. At some point when I had

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:53.439
<v Speaker 2>this conversation about like if the house caught on fire,

0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:56.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting the kids out and if you get out, fine,

0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 2>and I will help once the kids are out. But

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 2>the kids are getting out, the kid is getting out,

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 2>and you're the second priory and we're both like yeah,

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 2>I agree completely, Get the kid up, don't worry about me,

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 2>and you know, and that doesn't happen until and it

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:12.639
<v Speaker 2>becomes so natural. It's not like an intellectual decision. You

0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 2>couldn't do it any other way. Something kicks in in

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:16.680
<v Speaker 2>the in the brain when you have a kid.

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:22.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know, when they took him after the

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:24.440
<v Speaker 3>C section, I didn't I didn't get to hold him,

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 3>I didn't get to touch him, I didn't get to

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:28.959
<v Speaker 3>do anything. I was laying on the operating table and

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 3>they took him and so I had to go into

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:37.560
<v Speaker 3>recovery for two hours. And so now it's ten PM

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 3>and I still have not seen my son, and so

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 3>they agreed that they would wheel me back to the

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:46.399
<v Speaker 3>nick You to go see him. And they were all

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 3>kind of joking with me because I had just had

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:52.160
<v Speaker 3>a C section and I pretty much got up off

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 3>the table so I could just hold his hand, oh

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 3>and see him. And Drew, Yeah, Drew had to actually

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 3>grab the back of my my darling robe that they

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 3>put me in and get me to lay back down

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 3>because I tried to stand up because I just wanted

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:12.400
<v Speaker 3>to be with him. But yeah, I mean, it's it's

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 3>a love that. I didn't. I didn't know it was

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:15.680
<v Speaker 3>even humanly possible.

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 2>So is is Drew your husband? Is he the sort

0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 2>of person that's not squeamish about medical stuff or is

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 2>it just because in the moment he was Okay, I

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:28.879
<v Speaker 2>honestly don't know if I could watch what you just described.

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 3>You know, he he used to be squeamish, but considering

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 3>his profession, he deals with a lot of a lot

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:38.159
<v Speaker 3>of violence and a lot of blood.

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 2>So I'm okay, sure it was. That makes a difference.

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:42.639
<v Speaker 3>Now it's gotten a little more natural for him.

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how big was the baby? Yeah? Yeah, Michael's really big.

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:49.679
<v Speaker 2>He's like a grandma. What he wants to know? How

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:50.479
<v Speaker 2>big the baby was?

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 3>The baby was fifteen or fifteen? Good grief? Fifteen pounds

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 3>fifteen point no? Good? Yeah, I wouldn't be talking to

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 3>you right now that in case. Five pounds fifteen point

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:05.640
<v Speaker 3>six ounces and eighteen and a half inches long.

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:08.400
<v Speaker 2>There you go. Michael probably had one of those prop

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 2>bets on one of those off shore sights. I lost

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty bucks expected to be baby Michael. So you were,

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:21.239
<v Speaker 2>we were all we all been texting a lot. So

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 2>this conversation was through text, and I'm sure your medical

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 2>team is great and they're just doing what all medical

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 2>teams do, but you're having the experience everybody who's ever

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 2>been in the hospital has of the fact that somebody

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 2>comes in every five minutes and interrupts you while you're

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 2>trying to sleep and then says, you get some rest.

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 2>It's important you get some rest. That's the and they're

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 2>gone for like five minutes when somebody else comes in.

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's happened more times than I can count. My

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 3>favorite one was yesterday though, where she came in taking

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 3>care of stuff. You get some rest. I'll be back

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 3>at six forty and I looked up at the clock.

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 3>I was like six forties and twelve minutes. Yeah, what

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:57.160
<v Speaker 3>do you mean, get rest?

0:27:57.240 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I'll get some deep rest over the next ten minutes.

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 2>I wonder why that is a truism for everybody that's

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:06.159
<v Speaker 2>ever in a hospital wanting to rest. Is because they

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 2>can't coordinate, because you just they can't coordinate them. And

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but that's always been my experience.

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know. I mean, there's we've had so

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 3>many teams as this has been so funny. Right as

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 3>I was doing that part of this conversation with you.

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 3>There was a nurse in here that wanted to talk

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:26.920
<v Speaker 3>to me, and they're going to come back, sure, but yeah,

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's just been one after the other. Drew

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 3>had to leave yesterday for like thirty minutes, and I

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 3>think five different departments came in between occupational therapy and

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, postpartum depression and all. You know, but they

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 3>are I mean, they are on rotation, coming in here

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:51.479
<v Speaker 3>one after the other after the other, and you know,

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 3>and also newborns, you know, they have to eat like regularly.

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 3>So we had somebody coming in twice in the middle

0:28:58.040 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 3>of the night to make sure that I wake him

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 3>up and feed him. And yeah, so I look, I

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 3>look like I haven't slept in about two months. But

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure ready for it. I know it's not going

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 3>to get any better.

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 2>What you never know, our our first kid slept constantly.

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I remember calling the doctor and saying, calling the advice

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 2>nurse and like, he just keeps sleeping. Is everything, Okay,

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>be thankful, enjoy it is what they said, don't Yeah,

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 2>you don't worry about it. Sometimes they sleep, sometimes they don't.

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 2>You never know.

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's been a really good sleeper so far.

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 2>That's awesome. How'd you come up with the name Donovan?

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Is it a family name or what's that all about?

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Because I know people are going to ask.

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, so first of all, we're both very Irish,

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 3>so it's a strong Irish name. My grandfather's name was

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 3>don Donald and so we went with Donovan. And then

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Jay is my dad's middle name. Cool, so it's Donovan.

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 2>J Speaking of your dad, the judge who's been on

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>the show many times, I'm guessing your parents are pretty

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 2>excited about being grandparents.

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh, they're so excited. It's and it's been that's that's

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 3>also been an aspect that I wasn't expecting to like

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 3>make me emotional, but like seeing them sitting here and

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 3>my dad he holds he holds Donovan the way he

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 3>held me, and my mom he's gonna go. You gotta

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 3>get a crick in his neck? Yeah, great, it's pretty funny.

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 3>And then you know, my mom's like give him back

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 3>and no, all right, guys.

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I gotta tell you, Hanson and I Joe's not here today.

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 2>He's playing golf. But Hans and I were amazed that

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 2>you were going to call in because you know, we've

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 2>all been through the experience and not as the mom

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 2>of the whirlwind is that when you have a baby.

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a it's quite a couple of days.

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 2>But appreciate you taking the time to call because so

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 2>many everybody was texting and asking and emailing and stuff

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 2>like that. So thanks for filling all the information.

0:30:57.000 --> 0:31:00.800
<v Speaker 3>When you get home, Yeah, today say I'm going home.

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Awesome.

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 3>So they're gonna, yeah, they're gonna come in. They've got

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 3>a couple more checks to do on him. They're done

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 3>checking me out. I'm I'm I'm fine. And then they're

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 3>gonna you know, like the car seat things very important.

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna do all that. Oh and so we we

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 3>took one of the blankets that we swaddled Donovan in

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 3>and we gave it to the girl who is watching

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 3>our dog, Frankie. She's been she's been sending me videos.

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 3>Frankie will not leave that blanket. He's been carrying it

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 3>around the house. He's sleeping on it. I mean, it's

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 3>that's also incredible because I know he knows something's going on. Yep.

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 3>But but yeah, so we're gonna go home, and I've

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 3>been getting so many sweet messages from our listeners and

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, the Facebook pages and the Instagram and all

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 3>that stuff. So I'm I'm glad to let everybody know, Hey,

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm here, I'm alive. Donovan's alive, Drew is alive. I

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 3>didn't kill him either, so we're all good for some reason.

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 2>So it blew my mind, though it still does. Just

0:31:57.680 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 2>the idea that you drive to the hospital the two

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 2>of you, and you leave there's three of you. I mean,

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 2>it's just yeah, yeah, And then you get home it's

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, because when you're at the hospital you got

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 2>all that help constantly and everything like that. You're home,

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 2>you're like, okay, now it's just us and kind of

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 2>winging it here.

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 3>And my dad, my dad was saying so on Monday,

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 3>before I went in to be induced, I went to

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 3>the gym with my dad. He goes, hey, so just

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 3>to let you know, I know that you've had a

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 3>couple of moments of like are you going to be

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 3>a good mom? Which I have. I've had a couple

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 3>of like oh my god, what am I doing? You know?

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 3>He goes, just wait until you get home. That's when

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 3>the real yea, what the f yeah moment is going.

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 2>To hit true if it's something, because you're so protected

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 2>in the hospital with all that medical care around, and

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 2>then you get home it's like, okay, all right, here

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 2>we go.

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Oh, I have this giant red button where if

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 3>anything has happened where I'm even remotely unsure, I hit

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 3>that and somebody comes running. Now I am the big

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 3>red button, you know.

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, congratulations, everybody, very very happy for you, and go

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 2>spend time with your baby.

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 3>All right. I will thank you guys, and.

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Drive home with your hazard lights on. Good plan, Michael. Okay,

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 2>thanks Katie, abso more on the way. I stay here.

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 2>So I broke one of my own rules there with Katie.

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 2>If you're just joining us, we just talked to Katie Green,

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 2>our news person we've had for a very long time.

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 2>She just had a baby, first child, and it's all

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:32.280
<v Speaker 2>excited about it. In good story. I broke one of

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 2>my rules. I don't talk about future stuff with new

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 2>parents because I didn't like it when people did it

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 2>with me. Because I just let people have their own experience.

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Don't don't tell me, wait till this happens, wait till

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 2>that happens. RelA to just let people have their experience.

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 2>It's my own. I don't know if Joe would agree

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 2>with us or not. He's not here, but anyway, because

0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 2>I brought up just for the show, the idea that

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 2>when you get home with your kid in the first

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 2>time you walk in the door, in the door closes

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 2>and you're there with your baby is like, Wow, it's

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot more comfortable at the hospital when I knew

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 2>that emergency help was this close as opposed to being home.

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 2>But that is quite the feeling. But also getting in

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 2>the car and you start driving, You've never driven quite

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 2>the same way as you do the first time you're

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 2>pulling out of a driveway with your brand new baby

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 2>in the back seat, Like, is that person gotta stop?

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Are they stopping?

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:27.360
<v Speaker 3>You know?

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:29.680
<v Speaker 2>You don't usually you're just looking at your phone driving around.

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Who cares? You got a baby in the car for

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:39.280
<v Speaker 2>the first time? It changes. It's final tho ho twys

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 2>soon well your comments and tin us yas.

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 3>Closure ah the show.

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's only two of us here to give final thoughts.

0:34:57.480 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm your host for final thoughts and I'm half of

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 2>the final thoughts. But Michaelangelo running the board there, what's

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 2>your final thought? Michael, I'm excited.

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:08.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm looking forward to hearing about Katie's stories on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>With her kid. Yeah, that will be good. It'll be

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<v Speaker 2>my final thought. That will be good for Joe and

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<v Speaker 2>I to relive and all you listeners who either have

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<v Speaker 2>never done it or have done it, just to go

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<v Speaker 2>through the whole process of all the things that happen

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<v Speaker 2>from the moment you get home through through raising a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good stuff, very exciting. It'll be interesting to see

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<v Speaker 2>as happens with everybody. Your your views of what you

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<v Speaker 2>care about, what you don't care about change as a

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<v Speaker 2>parent also, and which is going to happen. An effect

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<v Speaker 2>on our politics in the future is less and less

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<v Speaker 2>people have kids. I'll tell you that AnyWho subject for

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<v Speaker 2>I was fun talking to Katie, so happy for her.

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<v Speaker 2>Lots of good stuff. See you next time. God bless America.

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