WEBVTT - Finish Him! 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:00.800 Hey, viewers. 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:04.400 Sniffy's Cruising Confessions is an explicit podcast about queer sex. 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:08.600 Filter dirty words and unfiltered descriptions of sexual activities. If 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.800 hearing about orgies, anonymous sex, kink, fetish, and more offends 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:16.360 your sensibilities, you might want to skip this. Viewer discretion 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:18.880 is advised. It's definitely not for kids. 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:23.439 Put your pussy up, put your put your pussy up, 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:27.720 Put your pussy up, Put put your pussy. Welcome to 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:31.520 Sniffy's Cruising Confessions. I'm Gabeln Sadez and I'm christtison Rosso. 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:34.640 Each week we explore the sublime world of queer sex, cruising, 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.240 and relationships. We talk to queer folks of all kinds. 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.920 We'll ask some questions, swap sex stories, share intimate revelations, 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:43.640 and provide practical advice that you can use at home. 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:48.400 Let Joy, put put Joe, pussy, put job, put put Jo, 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:52.519 put put your put up. So Chris, for those who 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:54.400 are not watching right now and listening, would you like 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:58.640 to explain what we're wearing? We are wearing spandex. We 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:04.600 are wearing spandex. You're wearing sniffies wrestling singlets. Yes, now, Chris, 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.679 I know this is like a usual outfit for you. 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:09.800 You you love. 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.080 Sporty gear, jockstrap singlets. I'm a big fan of singlets 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.480 as well. Yeah, mine are a little less modest and 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:15.920 for less modest occasions. 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:19.680 So I have both ones that are like public appropriate okay, 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:21.560 and ones that are better served for private use. 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:23.720 I mean I think every single is public appropriate, but 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:30.880 some folks might disagree. Yeah, well, yeahs is a choice. Well, yes, yeah, 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.520 Mesha on the subway is a choice. I'm curious we 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:35.640 both like wearing gear. Did you ever play sports as 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:36.119 a child. 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:41.200 I played soccer and then was forced to play basketball. 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.600 I love that you said forced into basketball because I 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.119 just wanted to dance, and so I spent the entire 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.640 season dancing up and down the courts and like, if 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:53.080 you gave me the ball, there is no telling where 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:53.520 it would go. 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:56.440 But I was like literally doing chettas down work. 0:01:56.760 --> 0:02:00.480 Yeah, yeah, backhand spring chette little lilid. 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:00.800 Yeah. 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:03.600 I like that. It was so bad. What about you? 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:07.920 Do you have any traumatic sports stories? Well, I mean, 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:11.280 did you play sports? You asked it right the first time. 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:14.880 You were absolutely spot on for longtime listeners. This might 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:18.000 be a detail you already know. But I am Puerto Rican. Yes, 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:20.600 and every little Puerto Rican boy is expected to be 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.760 get at baseball. It's a thing we're supposed to genetically inherit. 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.920 It's the only dream that a Portrican family has for 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:31.360 their firstborn son. And my family got me so they 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.600 would put me far out in like the left field. 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:36.480 I'd be picking flowers. I'd be like going over my 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.200 lines for the school play. I like checked the fuck out. 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:40.200 I did not want to be there. 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:46.080 So all that is to say, very mixed feelings. Yeah, yeah, 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.440 we were those kids. Were we were those kids. 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.079 Our parents really try to look at us now though 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:54.360 we great and gear, I don't love it. 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:59.000 I wear cleats every day. Oh god, all right, So 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.240 did you ever watch wrestling? Oh? 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.600 Absolutely? Stonewall, Steve Austin loved his work. 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:08.840 He was great. No. I did a little bit growing. 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:10.239 Up, mostly because like a lot of my peers did, 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.120 but my mom was not into anything violent, yes, so 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.680 she wouldn't let me watch it. Wrestling has always felt 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.720 very campy. It's, you know, so camp I kind of 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:22.600 love the bravado and the performativity of wrestling. Yeah, and 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:24.720 seeing more openly queer people doing it, I think is 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.680 interesting to me from a distance. Yeah, yeah, it seems 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:32.240 like growing up most queer boys have a natural aversion 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.760 to contact sports like football, hockey, or wrestling, where you're 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.920 frequently in danger of being pushed, shoved, knocked over, or crushed. 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.640 Sports like these teach boys to perform masculinity, while some 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:43.640 gay boys learn to stay out of the way or 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:44.400 risk injury. 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.320 But as we seem to keep pointing out on the show, 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:49.600 a lot of the stuff that happens in our childhood 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:53.040 can sometimes inform our turn ons when we grow up. 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.280 We are going inside the world of gay erotic wrestling 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:58.880 this episode a scene that has been steadily growing in 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:01.040 popularity since out the nineteen seventies. 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:02.720 Many of the men in this scene figured out that 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.280 they were gay by watching sports like wrestling, and today, 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.040 as adults, they've created a whole new scene where participants 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:10.960 cruise a special site to find other wrestling enthusiasts, then 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.240 they meet up in stage fights that often turn sexual. 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:16.240 Hmmm, what's the wrestling feter scene all about and how 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.560 can listeners safely try it out for themselves. 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.080 We'll talk to a well known Eurotic wrestler about these topics. 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:21.720 And much more. 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.640 Denzel Dixon is a self taught wrestler and grappler who's 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.080 been in the gay underground wrestling scene for over a decade. 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.520 He's a top creator on watchfighters dot com, where he 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:32.960 posts erotic wrestling matches featuring him dominating most of his appndents. 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:36.240 Please welcome to Sniffy's Cruising Confessions our guest Denzel Dixon. 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:41.400 How I'm good. How are you guys? Thank you? I 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:43.159 see you got the dress code memo? 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.279 I did, Yeah, I wonder luckily I had a few 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.640 extra in the bag, just a few all right, right, yes, 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:48.560 you know carry. 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:50.960 I'm ready to go anytime. So where does your wrestling 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:52.920 journey begin? Like, how did you get into it? 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:54.960 Kind Of like you, guys, I played sports growing up 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.080 and so that's kind of where it got started, wrestling 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.880 with my friends in the backyard, trying out moves and yeah, 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.599 that's kind of where the love of it got started. 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:04.920 And like what prompted it? Was it because you saw 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:07.400 wrestling on TV? Or it was just like natural? 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:08.800 Yeah? 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:10.719 No, I mean I think it was that it was 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:14.119 the like WWE, like mimic whatever you see on TV. 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.279 Throw your friends around and they do the same to you, 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:19.599 and yeah, and so I started to realize that I 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:21.600 really enjoyed it a little bit more than them. 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.440 And when was the first time you saw wrestling on TV? Yeah? 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:25.160 What was the era? 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.920 Because I was a picture. 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.440 Yeah, it's like a time capsule almost. 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:34.760 John Cena, Brandy Orton. Ray Mysterio was like a big 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.080 one as well. I always thought he was hot. 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.200 So, yeah, Ray Mysterio is a great stage name. I'm 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.520 assuming he was like your big crush, well was, Yeah, 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:47.280 Ray Mysterio is a luchador wrestler. Yeah, so he wore 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:47.840 a mask. 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:50.160 He had this cool move called the six one nine. 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.280 He would like jump through the ropes and kick somebody 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:53.839 in the face. It's just so ridiculous. 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.680 It's funny you mentioned because that was something I grew 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.080 up with a lot. Like there were a lot of 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.359 Spanish language like late night shows over the weekends that 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.200 would have like a dude in a lucrator mask as 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.680 like a funny comedic beat at the end of segments or. 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.240 Stuff like that. There was one where Lucho would come 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:09.200 out like play a trumpet. 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:11.960 Really that was kind of my first exposure to wrestling, right, 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:14.760 Dudes wearing masks, but very little else. Yeah, which was 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:16.360 funny because it felt kind of anonymous, and I could 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:18.480 kind of super impose any face I wanted to. 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:19.480 Write to them exactly. 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.520 It was very hot, like he was very you know, 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.200 the body was very nice to look at. 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:25.840 You're a fan of wrestling growing up, you kind of 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:27.600 did it a bit with your friends. Was there a 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.160 point where you pursued wrestling as like a serious sport 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:30.880 in school? 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:33.440 No, I was always nervous. 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.240 I was nervous I was gonna like out myself, you know, 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:40.240 wrestling around with other guys boner, gay kid, you know, 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:41.479 it doesn't really mix well. 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:46.360 So at least not at that point, right, And so yeah, I. 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:47.920 Was just really scared to do it as like an 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:51.200 actual sport growing up. But once I went off to college, 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.479 you know, that layer comes down. You start to like 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.039 explore and figure yourself. 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:55.320 Out a little bit more. 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:58.159 And so I started trying to find other ways to 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.760 do it with like gay men, just they wouldn't care 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.680 as much as somebody getting a boner while wrestling. 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.200 Like, how did that like setting that up work in college? Yeah? 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.680 So when I got to college, I found the site 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.720 called meat Fighters and Gay et. 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.640 Or Emmy at great question. Yeah, it could be either one. 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:18.400 Right, it meets like, you know, you're meeting somebody, and 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:20.480 so yeah, I was trying to find gay men to 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.720 wrestle because they won't judge me for this thing that 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:26.400 I'm into. And so yeah, meat Fighters popped up, and 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:31.000 that's this website that essentially is like a community of 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.400 men that are also into fighting and wrestling and boxing 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:37.560 and all these other versions of you know, fighting that 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.760 set up time to go meet each other offline and 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:44.880 like wrestle in hotel rooms, matt rooms, their basements whatever. 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:46.960 It's funny though, because at the time I was like straight, 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:48.680 when I was still like pursuing the wrestling thing, I 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:50.560 just knew that was like my thing that I liked 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.920 guys through wrestling. I kind of was always like the 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:57.040 gay things a phase, like I'll I'll get over it. 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:00.120 But wrestling was like the thing that was kind of 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.160 the middle ground where I was like, I can mess 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:04.520 around with guys and not be sexual. And so yeah, 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:06.280 I was doing that for a couple of months and 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:10.720 having good time and straight and then there was this 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.520 experience where I had taken on this one guy. 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:15.600 We really hit it off had a really good time. 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:19.360 Everything was very platonic and sexual tension was there, but 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:23.440 it wasn't anything sexually explicit at the time. Right, the 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.440 type of wrestling that I do, there's like a built 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:28.320 in consent system. Tapping out is like a way to 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.800 tell your partner, hey, I'm done, Like I don't you know, 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:32.120 the round's over, let's move on. 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:32.559 To the next. 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.360 And so we were wrestling, and at the end of it, 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:38.800 he like pinned me down and started jacking me off, 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:46.360 and so I was in this weird space and so yeah, 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:48.040 so I kind of like, you know, it was in 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.120 this moment where I'm like, do I tap out? Do 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:53.320 I let this happen? And I let it happen. I 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.560 was having a good time. I already had a trust 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:57.960 in him that we weren't going to do anything that 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.800 I didn't want to do. And as much as if 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:02.640 you would ask me, I probably would be like, oh no, 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:04.600 I didn't want to do this, but in the time, 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:06.680 in that moment, I was just like letting it go. 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:08.760 So he jacked me off, he like put me down, 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:10.720 jacked me off. At the end of that. We were 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.040 just talking afterwards and he was like, oh, so do 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:16.200 you have a boyfriend back at school. I'm like, boyfriend, 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.160 I'm straight, what are you talking about? And he was like, 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:25.840 ah yeah, And so from there it's kind of where 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.440 like everything started to bubble up, like oh maybe I 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.720 am gay and so like six months to be coming 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:32.800 out after that point, Yeah, that's kind of where I started. 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:36.320 And so like that was your first like gay experience 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.640 with that Yeah, first time ever messing out the guy 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:39.640 was through wrestling. 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:41.480 So I mean it's funny because I think an on 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.800 running theme this season for like all our guests, no 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.000 matter what we've been talking about, is what can happen 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:48.440 when you went to a space without judgment? 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:49.920 Like what can you discover. 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:51.600 About yourself when you went to a space without judgment? 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:53.440 And so it's so interesting that you're like, well, I 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:56.880 originally started seeking out game and to wrestle with because 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:58.319 I just didn't want to be judge if my body 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.560 reacted in a natural way exactly, and then that just 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:03.200 like let you discover something about yourself. Yeah, I'm just 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.080 curious and maybe being nosey at this point, But like, 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:06.880 how long did you keep in touch with that first guy? 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:10.080 Like do you also talk to friends? So far? I 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:10.520 love that. 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:13.640 The beautiful thing about the community like on Meat Fighters 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:16.120 is that it is this kind of weird thing where 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.480 it's like not so much like other hookup apps in 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:21.600 that there is like reviews and recommendations, and so it's 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.959 a very safe community in that we want to create 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.880 friendships and relationships in these bonds because yeah, we all 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.160 have this thing in common that we love doing and 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:32.959 it requires a lot of trust because you are beating 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:33.840 up your partner. 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:39.160 Yeah, you're beating them in many ways. But it's so 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:41.760 interesting because to me, I mean like watching wrestling and 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:43.920 Harley has this kind of tension, Like you know, I 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.959 would watch the wrestling on TV, but then I discovered 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:50.320 the Turkish oil wrestling for a Guinness Book of Records 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.240 that changed my life. 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.160 They put the hands straight in the pants. I thought, yeah, 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:56.600 I'm like this. 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.600 Yeah, and maybe I am projecting a little bit, but 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:03.120 it does feel like there's an inherent sexual tension to wrestling. 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:07.959 Yeah, there's a lot of history around wrestling, going back 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.960 to like ancient times wrestlers wrestling naked, Like it's just 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.960 something that is and has been thought of as like 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.360 being this very homoerotic thing in general, and then you 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:19.200 take this something like this where a community is specifically 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.080 talking to the home a part of it and fully 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:22.800 indulging in that. 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:26.719 So much language from wrestling also feels inherently sexual. 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.880 Like tag teaming. I'm like, if you say tag team 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.520 a very specific yeah, in the community, it can Yeah 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:34.400 do you tag team? Do you have like a partner 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:35.240 that you tag team with? 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.080 Not like the same partner, but I've done tag teams 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:40.040 with people, and yeah. 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.840 For you, what part about wrestling do you love the most? 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.480 Is it the sport aspect of it or is it 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.560 the potential to hook up aspects? 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:47.920 Both? 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:53.360 So maybe unlike you guys a little bit, I liked 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.360 playing sports growing up and was competitive, and so that 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.800 piece is always spoke to me. I enjoy beating my opponents. 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.920 I joy like winning on the match. However, I also 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.920 love the aspect of like the sexual fun of it. 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.480 You are gonna like rub your crotching somebody's face and 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.000 choke them and whatever the things you know that happen, 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:13.120 And so for me it's. 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:20.320 Both interesting and I'm Mike. I guess my question is like, 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.000 at what point do we take the singlet's off? 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.360 You know, that is a question that I think a 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.160 lot of guys have when they're wrestling. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:29.920 It's really whenever you want to Okay. 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.480 Some guys are looking for, you know, an hour or 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:35.400 so of like the actual match. It's a bit of 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:37.880 foreplay for them, right. Some guys don't want the thing. 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:39.920 Let's come off at all. The kink for them is 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:42.559 just getting hot and sweaty, and they'll go off and 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:44.480 do their own thing afterwards. But they just want to 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.600 have that body contact with another male. And then some 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:51.000 guys five minutes in they're like polling off and yeah, right, 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:54.240 exactly here we are. 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.319 You know. Now we're getting, you know, to where we 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:56.840 want to get to. 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:00.480 So yeah, it just really like I'm in that bucket. 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:03.600 But yeah, you would not be alone. There's plenty of 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.520 guys that are on the same page. To be honest, 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.000 I get hit up a lot asking if I like 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:14.840 wrestle or fight okay, and I'm always like, no, you 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:18.079 should explore why not. I think it's the thing of 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:20.599 like being new to something, Okay. I don't want to 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.640 be a beginner again. I just want to sow anti violence, 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:26.480 and it's like a weird thing for me to like 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.920 wrap my head around. I also think because I was 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.400 bullied and beat up a lot as a kid, it's 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.520 really hard for me to like make that switch. 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.160 I think it is where a lot of people sometimes 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.719 find power and like taking that back. And so I 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.319 wasn't really somebody who got bullied or had to deal 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.600 with that lot too much growing up. But I've been 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.360 very like passive and go with the flow person for 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.640 a long time in my life, and so this has 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:52.520 been something for me to like explore, like taking control 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:56.360 and dominating and being that dominating person on camera or not. 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.840 But there are people that play into the whole, like 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.720 being humiliar and being bullied and being bratty even like 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:06.240 wanting to lose, but also you know, being like fuck you, 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.400 like while being pinned down. Now either that kind of vibe. 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:11.120 So there's room for everybody on the wrestling mats. 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:11.400 Yeah. 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:14.360 Yeah, And when did you decide to start making content 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:15.360 out of the rest? 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:16.040 Yeah? 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.920 I was on the site for almost an entire decade 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.360 before I actually started getting on camera to do this. 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.360 It was something that started out of like a love 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.560 for it. I initially found meat fighters through videos, like 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:28.760 there's a bunch of guys that I could probably name 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:32.240 from like an underground wrestling perspective that I watched growing up, 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:34.000 and that kind of helped me find this like gay 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.840 wrestling community, and so I wanted to give back in 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.440 that same way, Like I wanted to be another generation 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.400 of that where maybe somebody stumbles upon my video one 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.120 day and then they can like find meat fighters and 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:47.360 like find themselves do that. And so I started posting 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:49.120 full matches and I've been doing it for about three 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:49.560 years now. 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:53.240 Now, when you're recording the matches, are they all matches 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:56.240 that like lead to something sexual or do you put 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:57.440 out like a variety of content. 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.840 The matches that I like watching don't always end up 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:03.280 in a very sexual manner, Like they can just end 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.680 somebody losing in you know, great match and then walk off, 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.120 and so I've always kind of leaned into those type 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:09.520 of matches. 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.320 So for me, that's what I want to make. 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.560 I want to make erotic matches that are not super sexual, 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:17.400 but as you probably know, like sex cells and so 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.880 if you're sucking and fucking and whatever on camera, like 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:23.920 videos sell better or people just want to see it more. 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:25.800 So that's kind of where it leaned into, like making 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:27.080 more variety of content for me. 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:30.280 Now we know wrestling, whether it's WWE or content creation, 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:32.200 like the stuff that you're doing is all about building 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.640 a character. We've got Macho Me and Randy Savage, the Rock, 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:39.520 the Undertaker. Who is Denzel Dixon and how is he created? 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:45.520 Denzel Dixon is some body that enjoys the sport, like 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.800 loves wrestling and wants to be the best at it. 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:56.200 He doesn't enjoy losing on camera. He wants to embarrass 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:59.200 and humiliate his opponents as much as he can within 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.120 good fun. Right, you know, we don't want anybody to 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.920 go home crying and stuff like that. But maybe I mean, 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:10.200 but no, the character Denzel is still very much tied 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:11.680 to who I am on the site, and so I 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:16.080 try to be domineering, be that like hell, which I 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.360 don't know if you guys know the term, he'll but explain. 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:20.680 I want to know. I was like, I was also 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:25.120 going to ask what's a grappler vocab lesson. 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.080 So jobber and hell are two terms that are used 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.440 interchangeably through the pro world and now like this queer 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:34.320 underground wrestling community. Jobber is somebody who tends to lose 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.280 more often in the pro wrestling world. They are somebody 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:40.040 that mostly is like working to make the hill look good. 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:42.640 If you're talking to like gay men who are wrestling 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:44.960 in hotel rooms, it's just somebody who loses or like 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.600 likes to lose. Hill is somebody who is more dumb, 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:52.080 somebody who is going to make sure everybody's safe and good. 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.200 And you know we're not hurting each other too bad, 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.640 but putting you through the ringer like stretching you, choking you. 0:16:58.040 --> 0:16:58.440 So yeah. 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.040 So Denzel Dickson is AH, but you know he comes 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.880 up against other Hills sometimes and whether or not I 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.480 win or they win is where I get to have 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:07.040 a little fun. 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.760 Videos about two heels can still have fun exactly so 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:10.760 can two jobbers. 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.200 Did I get that right? You got it right? Yes, 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.280 I feel like socio pro. Well, look at me learning 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:16.880 all right. 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.040 When we come back, we're going to talk more about 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:21.520 the wrestling fetish scene and Denzel will share tips for 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:23.240 folks interested in taking it to the map. 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:34.159 Don't go anywhere or will crush you. Welcome back to 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.840 Nippy's Cruising Confessions. Now, if you spent our entire last 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.240 segment bricked up and leaking, you might be ready to 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:40.120 enter the wrestling ring. 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:45.560 So Denzel, for those bricked folks in the audience, what 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:49.359 is the first step for someone interested in maybe exploring 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:50.320 the scene that you're in. 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:54.560 Meat fighters is probably the easiest way to meet other fighters. 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:59.160 It's a very all encompassing like website that will get 0:17:59.160 --> 0:17:59.960 you started very quick. 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:03.239 You'll find people in your area. And do you on 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.080 the website list your level of experience you can. 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.080 Some guys go the like exhaustive route of like I've 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:10.560 done this for so many years and this, that and 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:12.920