Speaker 1: Hey, viewers.
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Speaker 1: Put your pussy up, put your put your pussy up,
Speaker 1: Put your pussy up, Put put your pussy. Welcome to
Speaker 1: Sniffy's Cruising Confessions. I'm Gabeln Sadez and I'm christtison Rosso.
Speaker 1: Each week we explore the sublime world of queer sex, cruising,
Speaker 1: and relationships. We talk to queer folks of all kinds.
Speaker 2: We'll ask some questions, swap sex stories, share intimate revelations,
Speaker 2: and provide practical advice that you can use at home.
Speaker 2: Let Joy, put put Joe, pussy, put job, put put Jo,
Speaker 2: put put your put up. So Chris, for those who
Speaker 2: are not watching right now and listening, would you like
Speaker 2: to explain what we're wearing? We are wearing spandex. We
Speaker 2: are wearing spandex. You're wearing sniffies wrestling singlets. Yes, now, Chris,
Speaker 2: I know this is like a usual outfit for you.
Speaker 1: You you love.
Speaker 2: Sporty gear, jockstrap singlets. I'm a big fan of singlets
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, mine are a little less modest and
Speaker 2: for less modest occasions.
Speaker 1: So I have both ones that are like public appropriate okay,
Speaker 1: and ones that are better served for private use.
Speaker 2: I mean I think every single is public appropriate, but
Speaker 2: some folks might disagree. Yeah, well, yeahs is a choice. Well, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: Mesha on the subway is a choice. I'm curious we
Speaker 2: both like wearing gear. Did you ever play sports as
Speaker 2: a child.
Speaker 1: I played soccer and then was forced to play basketball.
Speaker 2: I love that you said forced into basketball because I
Speaker 2: just wanted to dance, and so I spent the entire
Speaker 2: season dancing up and down the courts and like, if
Speaker 2: you gave me the ball, there is no telling where
Speaker 2: it would go.
Speaker 1: But I was like literally doing chettas down work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, backhand spring chette little lilid.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like that. It was so bad. What about you?
Speaker 2: Do you have any traumatic sports stories? Well, I mean,
Speaker 2: did you play sports? You asked it right the first time.
Speaker 2: You were absolutely spot on for longtime listeners. This might
Speaker 2: be a detail you already know. But I am Puerto Rican. Yes,
Speaker 2: and every little Puerto Rican boy is expected to be
Speaker 2: get at baseball. It's a thing we're supposed to genetically inherit.
Speaker 2: It's the only dream that a Portrican family has for
Speaker 2: their firstborn son. And my family got me so they
Speaker 2: would put me far out in like the left field.
Speaker 2: I'd be picking flowers. I'd be like going over my
Speaker 2: lines for the school play. I like checked the fuck out.
Speaker 2: I did not want to be there.
Speaker 1: So all that is to say, very mixed feelings. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we were those kids. Were we were those kids.
Speaker 2: Our parents really try to look at us now though
Speaker 2: we great and gear, I don't love it.
Speaker 1: I wear cleats every day. Oh god, all right, So
Speaker 1: did you ever watch wrestling? Oh?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Stonewall, Steve Austin loved his work.
Speaker 1: He was great. No. I did a little bit growing.
Speaker 2: Up, mostly because like a lot of my peers did,
Speaker 2: but my mom was not into anything violent, yes, so
Speaker 2: she wouldn't let me watch it. Wrestling has always felt
Speaker 2: very campy. It's, you know, so camp I kind of
Speaker 2: love the bravado and the performativity of wrestling. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: seeing more openly queer people doing it, I think is
Speaker 2: interesting to me from a distance. Yeah, yeah, it seems
Speaker 2: like growing up most queer boys have a natural aversion
Speaker 2: to contact sports like football, hockey, or wrestling, where you're
Speaker 2: frequently in danger of being pushed, shoved, knocked over, or crushed.
Speaker 1: Sports like these teach boys to perform masculinity, while some
Speaker 1: gay boys learn to stay out of the way or
Speaker 1: risk injury.
Speaker 2: But as we seem to keep pointing out on the show,
Speaker 2: a lot of the stuff that happens in our childhood
Speaker 2: can sometimes inform our turn ons when we grow up.
Speaker 2: We are going inside the world of gay erotic wrestling
Speaker 2: this episode a scene that has been steadily growing in
Speaker 2: popularity since out the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 1: Many of the men in this scene figured out that
Speaker 1: they were gay by watching sports like wrestling, and today,
Speaker 1: as adults, they've created a whole new scene where participants
Speaker 1: cruise a special site to find other wrestling enthusiasts, then
Speaker 1: they meet up in stage fights that often turn sexual.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, what's the wrestling feter scene all about and how
Speaker 2: can listeners safely try it out for themselves.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to a well known Eurotic wrestler about these topics.
Speaker 1: And much more.
Speaker 2: Denzel Dixon is a self taught wrestler and grappler who's
Speaker 2: been in the gay underground wrestling scene for over a decade.
Speaker 1: He's a top creator on watchfighters dot com, where he
Speaker 1: posts erotic wrestling matches featuring him dominating most of his appndents.
Speaker 2: Please welcome to Sniffy's Cruising Confessions our guest Denzel Dixon.
Speaker 1: How I'm good. How are you guys? Thank you? I
Speaker 1: see you got the dress code memo?
Speaker 4: I did, Yeah, I wonder luckily I had a few
Speaker 4: extra in the bag, just a few all right, right, yes,
Speaker 4: you know carry.
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go anytime. So where does your wrestling
Speaker 1: journey begin? Like, how did you get into it?
Speaker 4: Kind Of like you, guys, I played sports growing up
Speaker 4: and so that's kind of where it got started, wrestling
Speaker 4: with my friends in the backyard, trying out moves and yeah,
Speaker 4: that's kind of where the love of it got started.
Speaker 1: And like what prompted it? Was it because you saw
Speaker 1: wrestling on TV? Or it was just like natural?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, I mean I think it was that it was
Speaker 4: the like WWE, like mimic whatever you see on TV.
Speaker 4: Throw your friends around and they do the same to you,
Speaker 4: and yeah, and so I started to realize that I
Speaker 4: really enjoyed it a little bit more than them.
Speaker 1: And when was the first time you saw wrestling on TV? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What was the era?
Speaker 2: Because I was a picture.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a time capsule almost.
Speaker 4: John Cena, Brandy Orton. Ray Mysterio was like a big
Speaker 4: one as well. I always thought he was hot.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, Ray Mysterio is a great stage name. I'm
Speaker 2: assuming he was like your big crush, well was, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Ray Mysterio is a luchador wrestler. Yeah, so he wore
Speaker 2: a mask.
Speaker 4: He had this cool move called the six one nine.
Speaker 4: He would like jump through the ropes and kick somebody
Speaker 4: in the face. It's just so ridiculous.
Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned because that was something I grew
Speaker 2: up with a lot. Like there were a lot of
Speaker 2: Spanish language like late night shows over the weekends that
Speaker 2: would have like a dude in a lucrator mask as
Speaker 2: like a funny comedic beat at the end of segments or.
Speaker 1: Stuff like that. There was one where Lucho would come
Speaker 1: out like play a trumpet.
Speaker 2: Really that was kind of my first exposure to wrestling, right,
Speaker 2: Dudes wearing masks, but very little else. Yeah, which was
Speaker 2: funny because it felt kind of anonymous, and I could
Speaker 2: kind of super impose any face I wanted to.
Speaker 1: Write to them exactly.
Speaker 4: It was very hot, like he was very you know,
Speaker 4: the body was very nice to look at.
Speaker 2: You're a fan of wrestling growing up, you kind of
Speaker 2: did it a bit with your friends. Was there a
Speaker 2: point where you pursued wrestling as like a serious sport
Speaker 2: in school?
Speaker 1: No, I was always nervous.
Speaker 4: I was nervous I was gonna like out myself, you know,
Speaker 4: wrestling around with other guys boner, gay kid, you know,
Speaker 4: it doesn't really mix well.
Speaker 1: So at least not at that point, right, And so yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Was just really scared to do it as like an
Speaker 4: actual sport growing up. But once I went off to college,
Speaker 4: you know, that layer comes down. You start to like
Speaker 4: explore and figure yourself.
Speaker 1: Out a little bit more.
Speaker 4: And so I started trying to find other ways to
Speaker 4: do it with like gay men, just they wouldn't care
Speaker 4: as much as somebody getting a boner while wrestling.
Speaker 1: Like, how did that like setting that up work in college? Yeah?
Speaker 4: So when I got to college, I found the site
Speaker 4: called meat Fighters and Gay et.
Speaker 1: Or Emmy at great question. Yeah, it could be either one.
Speaker 4: Right, it meets like, you know, you're meeting somebody, and
Speaker 4: so yeah, I was trying to find gay men to
Speaker 4: wrestle because they won't judge me for this thing that
Speaker 4: I'm into. And so yeah, meat Fighters popped up, and
Speaker 4: that's this website that essentially is like a community of
Speaker 4: men that are also into fighting and wrestling and boxing
Speaker 4: and all these other versions of you know, fighting that
Speaker 4: set up time to go meet each other offline and
Speaker 4: like wrestle in hotel rooms, matt rooms, their basements whatever.
Speaker 4: It's funny though, because at the time I was like straight,
Speaker 4: when I was still like pursuing the wrestling thing, I
Speaker 4: just knew that was like my thing that I liked
Speaker 4: guys through wrestling. I kind of was always like the
Speaker 4: gay things a phase, like I'll I'll get over it.
Speaker 4: But wrestling was like the thing that was kind of
Speaker 4: the middle ground where I was like, I can mess
Speaker 4: around with guys and not be sexual. And so yeah,
Speaker 4: I was doing that for a couple of months and
Speaker 4: having good time and straight and then there was this
Speaker 4: experience where I had taken on this one guy.
Speaker 1: We really hit it off had a really good time.
Speaker 4: Everything was very platonic and sexual tension was there, but
Speaker 4: it wasn't anything sexually explicit at the time. Right, the
Speaker 4: type of wrestling that I do, there's like a built
Speaker 4: in consent system. Tapping out is like a way to
Speaker 4: tell your partner, hey, I'm done, Like I don't you know,
Speaker 4: the round's over, let's move on.
Speaker 1: To the next.
Speaker 4: And so we were wrestling, and at the end of it,
Speaker 4: he like pinned me down and started jacking me off,
Speaker 4: and so I was in this weird space and so yeah,
Speaker 4: so I kind of like, you know, it was in
Speaker 4: this moment where I'm like, do I tap out? Do
Speaker 4: I let this happen? And I let it happen. I
Speaker 4: was having a good time. I already had a trust
Speaker 4: in him that we weren't going to do anything that
Speaker 4: I didn't want to do. And as much as if
Speaker 4: you would ask me, I probably would be like, oh no,
Speaker 4: I didn't want to do this, but in the time,
Speaker 4: in that moment, I was just like letting it go.
Speaker 4: So he jacked me off, he like put me down,
Speaker 4: jacked me off. At the end of that. We were
Speaker 4: just talking afterwards and he was like, oh, so do
Speaker 4: you have a boyfriend back at school. I'm like, boyfriend,
Speaker 4: I'm straight, what are you talking about? And he was like,
Speaker 4: ah yeah, And so from there it's kind of where
Speaker 4: like everything started to bubble up, like oh maybe I
Speaker 4: am gay and so like six months to be coming
Speaker 4: out after that point, Yeah, that's kind of where I started.
Speaker 1: And so like that was your first like gay experience
Speaker 1: with that Yeah, first time ever messing out the guy
Speaker 1: was through wrestling.
Speaker 2: So I mean it's funny because I think an on
Speaker 2: running theme this season for like all our guests, no
Speaker 2: matter what we've been talking about, is what can happen
Speaker 2: when you went to a space without judgment?
Speaker 1: Like what can you discover.
Speaker 2: About yourself when you went to a space without judgment?
Speaker 2: And so it's so interesting that you're like, well, I
Speaker 2: originally started seeking out game and to wrestle with because
Speaker 2: I just didn't want to be judge if my body
Speaker 2: reacted in a natural way exactly, and then that just
Speaker 2: like let you discover something about yourself. Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 2: curious and maybe being nosey at this point, But like,
Speaker 2: how long did you keep in touch with that first guy?
Speaker 1: Like do you also talk to friends? So far? I
Speaker 1: love that.
Speaker 4: The beautiful thing about the community like on Meat Fighters
Speaker 4: is that it is this kind of weird thing where
Speaker 4: it's like not so much like other hookup apps in
Speaker 4: that there is like reviews and recommendations, and so it's
Speaker 4: a very safe community in that we want to create
Speaker 4: friendships and relationships in these bonds because yeah, we all
Speaker 4: have this thing in common that we love doing and
Speaker 4: it requires a lot of trust because you are beating
Speaker 4: up your partner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're beating them in many ways. But it's so
Speaker 2: interesting because to me, I mean like watching wrestling and
Speaker 2: Harley has this kind of tension, Like you know, I
Speaker 2: would watch the wrestling on TV, but then I discovered
Speaker 2: the Turkish oil wrestling for a Guinness Book of Records
Speaker 2: that changed my life.
Speaker 1: They put the hands straight in the pants. I thought, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe I am projecting a little bit, but
Speaker 2: it does feel like there's an inherent sexual tension to wrestling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of history around wrestling, going back
Speaker 4: to like ancient times wrestlers wrestling naked, Like it's just
Speaker 4: something that is and has been thought of as like
Speaker 4: being this very homoerotic thing in general, and then you
Speaker 4: take this something like this where a community is specifically
Speaker 4: talking to the home a part of it and fully
Speaker 4: indulging in that.
Speaker 2: So much language from wrestling also feels inherently sexual.
Speaker 1: Like tag teaming. I'm like, if you say tag team
Speaker 1: a very specific yeah, in the community, it can Yeah
Speaker 1: do you tag team? Do you have like a partner
Speaker 1: that you tag team with?
Speaker 4: Not like the same partner, but I've done tag teams
Speaker 4: with people, and yeah.
Speaker 1: For you, what part about wrestling do you love the most?
Speaker 2: Is it the sport aspect of it or is it
Speaker 2: the potential to hook up aspects?
Speaker 1: Both?
Speaker 4: So maybe unlike you guys a little bit, I liked
Speaker 4: playing sports growing up and was competitive, and so that
Speaker 4: piece is always spoke to me. I enjoy beating my opponents.
Speaker 4: I joy like winning on the match. However, I also
Speaker 4: love the aspect of like the sexual fun of it.
Speaker 4: You are gonna like rub your crotching somebody's face and
Speaker 4: choke them and whatever the things you know that happen,
Speaker 4: And so for me it's.
Speaker 1: Both interesting and I'm Mike. I guess my question is like,
Speaker 1: at what point do we take the singlet's off?
Speaker 4: You know, that is a question that I think a
Speaker 4: lot of guys have when they're wrestling.
Speaker 1: It's really whenever you want to Okay.
Speaker 4: Some guys are looking for, you know, an hour or
Speaker 4: so of like the actual match. It's a bit of
Speaker 4: foreplay for them, right. Some guys don't want the thing.
Speaker 4: Let's come off at all. The kink for them is
Speaker 4: just getting hot and sweaty, and they'll go off and
Speaker 4: do their own thing afterwards. But they just want to
Speaker 4: have that body contact with another male. And then some
Speaker 4: guys five minutes in they're like polling off and yeah, right,
Speaker 4: exactly here we are.
Speaker 1: You know. Now we're getting, you know, to where we
Speaker 1: want to get to.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it just really like I'm in that bucket.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you would not be alone. There's plenty of
Speaker 1: guys that are on the same page. To be honest,
Speaker 1: I get hit up a lot asking if I like
Speaker 1: wrestle or fight okay, and I'm always like, no, you
Speaker 1: should explore why not. I think it's the thing of
Speaker 1: like being new to something, Okay. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be a beginner again. I just want to sow anti violence,
Speaker 1: and it's like a weird thing for me to like
Speaker 1: wrap my head around. I also think because I was
Speaker 1: bullied and beat up a lot as a kid, it's
Speaker 1: really hard for me to like make that switch.
Speaker 4: I think it is where a lot of people sometimes
Speaker 4: find power and like taking that back. And so I
Speaker 4: wasn't really somebody who got bullied or had to deal
Speaker 4: with that lot too much growing up. But I've been
Speaker 4: very like passive and go with the flow person for
Speaker 4: a long time in my life, and so this has
Speaker 4: been something for me to like explore, like taking control
Speaker 4: and dominating and being that dominating person on camera or not.
Speaker 4: But there are people that play into the whole, like
Speaker 4: being humiliar and being bullied and being bratty even like
Speaker 4: wanting to lose, but also you know, being like fuck you,
Speaker 4: like while being pinned down. Now either that kind of vibe.
Speaker 4: So there's room for everybody on the wrestling mats.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And when did you decide to start making content
Speaker 2: out of the rest?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I was on the site for almost an entire decade
Speaker 4: before I actually started getting on camera to do this.
Speaker 4: It was something that started out of like a love
Speaker 4: for it. I initially found meat fighters through videos, like
Speaker 4: there's a bunch of guys that I could probably name
Speaker 4: from like an underground wrestling perspective that I watched growing up,
Speaker 4: and that kind of helped me find this like gay
Speaker 4: wrestling community, and so I wanted to give back in
Speaker 4: that same way, Like I wanted to be another generation
Speaker 4: of that where maybe somebody stumbles upon my video one
Speaker 4: day and then they can like find meat fighters and
Speaker 4: like find themselves do that. And so I started posting
Speaker 4: full matches and I've been doing it for about three
Speaker 4: years now.
Speaker 2: Now, when you're recording the matches, are they all matches
Speaker 2: that like lead to something sexual or do you put
Speaker 2: out like a variety of content.
Speaker 4: The matches that I like watching don't always end up
Speaker 4: in a very sexual manner, Like they can just end
Speaker 4: somebody losing in you know, great match and then walk off,
Speaker 4: and so I've always kind of leaned into those type
Speaker 4: of matches.
Speaker 1: So for me, that's what I want to make.
Speaker 4: I want to make erotic matches that are not super sexual,
Speaker 4: but as you probably know, like sex cells and so
Speaker 4: if you're sucking and fucking and whatever on camera, like
Speaker 4: videos sell better or people just want to see it more.
Speaker 4: So that's kind of where it leaned into, like making
Speaker 4: more variety of content for me.
Speaker 1: Now we know wrestling, whether it's WWE or content creation,
Speaker 1: like the stuff that you're doing is all about building
Speaker 1: a character. We've got Macho Me and Randy Savage, the Rock,
Speaker 1: the Undertaker. Who is Denzel Dixon and how is he created?
Speaker 4: Denzel Dixon is some body that enjoys the sport, like
Speaker 4: loves wrestling and wants to be the best at it.
Speaker 4: He doesn't enjoy losing on camera. He wants to embarrass
Speaker 4: and humiliate his opponents as much as he can within
Speaker 4: good fun. Right, you know, we don't want anybody to
Speaker 4: go home crying and stuff like that. But maybe I mean,
Speaker 4: but no, the character Denzel is still very much tied
Speaker 4: to who I am on the site, and so I
Speaker 4: try to be domineering, be that like hell, which I
Speaker 4: don't know if you guys know the term, he'll but explain.
Speaker 1: I want to know. I was like, I was also
Speaker 1: going to ask what's a grappler vocab lesson.
Speaker 4: So jobber and hell are two terms that are used
Speaker 4: interchangeably through the pro world and now like this queer
Speaker 4: underground wrestling community. Jobber is somebody who tends to lose
Speaker 4: more often in the pro wrestling world. They are somebody
Speaker 4: that mostly is like working to make the hill look good.
Speaker 4: If you're talking to like gay men who are wrestling
Speaker 4: in hotel rooms, it's just somebody who loses or like
Speaker 4: likes to lose. Hill is somebody who is more dumb,
Speaker 4: somebody who is going to make sure everybody's safe and good.
Speaker 4: And you know we're not hurting each other too bad,
Speaker 4: but putting you through the ringer like stretching you, choking you.
Speaker 1: So yeah.
Speaker 4: So Denzel Dickson is AH, but you know he comes
Speaker 4: up against other Hills sometimes and whether or not I
Speaker 4: win or they win is where I get to have
Speaker 4: a little fun.
Speaker 2: Videos about two heels can still have fun exactly so
Speaker 2: can two jobbers.
Speaker 1: Did I get that right? You got it right? Yes,
Speaker 1: I feel like socio pro. Well, look at me learning
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we're going to talk more about
Speaker 2: the wrestling fetish scene and Denzel will share tips for
Speaker 2: folks interested in taking it to the map.
Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere or will crush you. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: Nippy's Cruising Confessions. Now, if you spent our entire last
Speaker 1: segment bricked up and leaking, you might be ready to
Speaker 1: enter the wrestling ring.
Speaker 2: So Denzel, for those bricked folks in the audience, what
Speaker 2: is the first step for someone interested in maybe exploring
Speaker 2: the scene that you're in.
Speaker 4: Meat fighters is probably the easiest way to meet other fighters.
Speaker 4: It's a very all encompassing like website that will get
Speaker 4: you started very quick.
Speaker 1: You'll find people in your area. And do you on
Speaker 1: the website list your level of experience you can.
Speaker 4: Some guys go the like exhaustive route of like I've
Speaker 4: done this for so many years and this, that and
Speaker 4: the other, and other guys are like, I just want
Speaker 4: to roll in sweaty with on the match.
Speaker 1: I just trying to wrestle some men out here.
Speaker 2: Get my boot heels on a little, I'm going to
Speaker 2: be so yeah. So one of the most important things
Speaker 2: for any kind of fetters scene is consent. We talked
Speaker 2: a bit about that, the tapping out system that exists,
Speaker 2: so you know the same applies for wrestling matches. How
Speaker 2: do you negotiate consent in a match or before play
Speaker 2: outside of just that kind of tap out method?
Speaker 1: Communication?
Speaker 4: Right, Like, you want to talk to your opponent prior
Speaker 4: to the match and let them know limits. What is
Speaker 4: off the table, Like, what do you not want to
Speaker 4: happen during this match, some guys may not know the time.
Speaker 4: But again that's kind of where this built in consent method.
Speaker 4: It is really useful and necessary. Is that if you
Speaker 4: didn't say, you know, like oh, I don't like my
Speaker 4: ass being played with before the match happens, and then
Speaker 4: it starts happening, you can tap out and you'd be like, Hey,
Speaker 4: that's too far from me.
Speaker 1: I don't want that to happen.
Speaker 4: But knowing your opponent and having them explain themselves before
Speaker 4: the match is super helpful.
Speaker 1: And what about safety, like if the match can turn
Speaker 1: sexual at any point? Yeah, do you have conversations about
Speaker 1: prep condoms, et cetera before you start in the match?
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 4: I mean it's just like any other hookup or any
Speaker 4: other like kink. If you're crossing that line, you want
Speaker 4: to know that the person you're hooking up with is
Speaker 4: practicing safety in the sexual world.
Speaker 1: Now, I know, like most fetishes and kinks, there is
Speaker 1: usually a big event or too in certain parts of
Speaker 1: the world where people can come together and explore their kings.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Russell Fest. Yes, what is that event? Like?
Speaker 1: Are there people wrestling?
Speaker 3: There?
Speaker 1: Are there people there in the stance jerking off, Like,
Speaker 1: what is it like?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, Russell Fest is essentially like a kink convention, right,
Speaker 4: So it is a choose yourn a venture like any
Speaker 4: other king convention kind of will be. So there are parties,
Speaker 4: There are like nights out at clubs, kickoff events, all
Speaker 4: these different things. There is a live wrestling event that
Speaker 4: I was kind of explaining earlier. The one in New
Speaker 4: York is ring based and so they had like a
Speaker 4: lot more pro wrestling style matches. The one in Toronto
Speaker 4: is matt based, so there's some pro wrestling, but it
Speaker 4: is a little bit more like sport led. Either way,
Speaker 4: all of it is erotic, all of it is queer.
Speaker 4: You can choose to go to these live EVENTU go
Speaker 4: to these parties. You can meet somebody out at the bar,
Speaker 4: go back to your hotel room and wrestle. You can
Speaker 4: get invited to a like group sex kind of thing
Speaker 4: where it's like everybody's in jockstraps in one room in
Speaker 4: the suite, wrestling on mats in the bedroom.
Speaker 1: So are people jacking off in the stands? You didn't
Speaker 1: answer that part. I did not enter that part.
Speaker 4: If they are, they're probably doing a little bit more
Speaker 4: like sneakless because I'm like, these are venues that you know,
Speaker 4: you maybe should not be jacking off. But yeah, but
Speaker 4: in the group, you know matches that are happening in
Speaker 4: hotel rooms.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Would you be on the couch in the hotel room
Speaker 4: jacking off watching something?
Speaker 2: Tells me you'd be exploring how many partners you can
Speaker 2: fit onto a single matt That would be your You're like, well,
Speaker 2: how much can we do on.
Speaker 1: This color coordinating singlets and more? Yeah, you're in the
Speaker 1: corner like this would look great if you just Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, since we're talking about what Chris loves about wrestling,
Speaker 2: let's talk about fashion.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: Obviously, over the past several years, singlets have become firmly
Speaker 2: established as a piece of gear in the queer community.
Speaker 2: I was talking about wearing them to social events and
Speaker 2: sex parties. I've seen a lot of people wearing them casually.
Speaker 2: We've got companies making them like Nasty Pigs, Slick it
Speaker 2: Up and now Sniffies.
Speaker 1: Naturally, if you're watching check it out. Do you need gear.
Speaker 2: Like singlets or pads or anything to engage in the
Speaker 2: wrestling scene.
Speaker 4: No, but for a lot of people It is part
Speaker 4: of the fantasy, right, It is part of what brought
Speaker 4: them to the sport, watching these like muscled, homoerotic guys
Speaker 4: like wrestle in tight spandex. People love that. Some people
Speaker 4: really really love that, like that's the big thing for them.
Speaker 4: But you could be naked if you like, for example,
Speaker 4: if you're doing an oil match, maybe not Turkish oil match,
Speaker 4: but like an oil match. Think of like if you
Speaker 4: go to like a queer night at a bar and
Speaker 4: they're wrestling in like oil pit, leather.
Speaker 1: And lace, leather and lace exactly.
Speaker 4: And so yeah, you can be in thong, you can
Speaker 4: be in jockstraps, you can be completely nude.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: You can go like the Greek faces go for broth.
Speaker 2: All right, so it's cruising confessions time. Okay, tell us
Speaker 2: you're a wildest wrestling hookup story. Yeah, yeah, my first match. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I am living in Phoenix at the time. I'm still
Speaker 2: in school. I'm talking to somebody from Las Vegas. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you guys know.
Speaker 4: For our trip between Phoenix and Vegas, neither one of
Speaker 4: us can hosts. We like, figure out, let's find a
Speaker 4: hotel middle of the way, so we go to King
Speaker 4: Arizona and we get to it. We're getting into it,
Speaker 4: we're wrestling. We're wrestling, and he's like, hold on a second,
Speaker 4: I need to go, Like yeah, sure, whatever. He goes
Speaker 4: to the bathroom, pukes's guts out, literally just like starts
Speaker 4: vomiting for like two three minutes straight, comes out.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm all good, Like let's go. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck?
Speaker 4: But I just drove two and a half hours to
Speaker 4: get here, So I'm like, I'm gonna just see it through.
Speaker 4: Continue wrestling, finish up the match I ended up winning.
Speaker 4: We had stakes as part of the match, so stakes
Speaker 4: for the match are pretty non erotic because again.
Speaker 1: Still straight still first match.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it basically is twenty thirty minutes of me getting
Speaker 4: to dominate him in any move I want whatever. So
Speaker 4: I put him in this move where I'm choking him
Speaker 4: and like bending him back. Oh oh again the tap
Speaker 4: system is there too, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yea, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah enough let up? Yeah yeah. He does not tap,
Speaker 1: and so he goes to sleep. He gets knocked out.
Speaker 4: So I'm sitting there barely eighteen, like knock somebody out
Speaker 4: in a hotel and some city, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, and I'm like, what the fuck, What the fuck?
Speaker 1: What am I gonna do?
Speaker 4: He wakes up like three seconds later, he's still coming
Speaker 4: to starts trying to fight me because he thinks we're
Speaker 4: like still in the match and like, no, calm down.
Speaker 1: And he thought it was very hot.
Speaker 4: That was something that he like found out about himself
Speaker 4: that he like being knocked out. And not that I'm
Speaker 4: against it, but it's scary when you're not preparing yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone, right, Yeah, so you talked about stakes, and
Speaker 1: I like understand that when it comes to like I
Speaker 1: don't know poker, but like in this context, what does
Speaker 1: that mean? How do you set them up? Like what
Speaker 1: does that look like?
Speaker 4: It's pretty similar, I guess to poker, maybe not so
Speaker 4: much in the games aspect, but you know, you are
Speaker 4: doing this thing where you're competing, right, So if we're
Speaker 4: having a match and one of us wins, then the
Speaker 4: loser has to suck off the winner or the loser
Speaker 4: is getting fucked. Or if I make you come first
Speaker 4: on the match, then I could do X, Y and
Speaker 4: Z to you, so you can set up something for
Speaker 4: the winner.
Speaker 1: Or the loser to have to do afterwards.
Speaker 4: Most wrestling matches can be fine without them, but if
Speaker 4: you are fighting with a goal, there's a little bit
Speaker 4: more motivation behind it, right, So maybe even if you
Speaker 4: are a jobber, you're like, I don't want to suck
Speaker 4: him off, or or maybe you do, but you know,
Speaker 4: whatever the case may be, you're gonna fight with a
Speaker 4: little bit more behind it. Yeah, but at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, you don't have to do stay to
Speaker 4: make a match work, Like you're taking on somebody that
Speaker 4: you probably already find super attractive and hot, and so
Speaker 4: you can most likely make it work and have fun
Speaker 4: without that.
Speaker 1: That's one person's at the stakes. Or are you like
Speaker 1: negotiating the steaks Some guys.
Speaker 4: Are pretty like you pick because you're gonna lose, Like
Speaker 4: it's it's a yeah, the trash talk in there, you know,
Speaker 4: So it can be both. It could be a negotiation.
Speaker 4: It can be somebody who's super cocky and like, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna win anyway, so what the fuck does it matter?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm obsessed with this idea of trash talking because
Speaker 2: it's such a staple of televised wrestling, oh for sure,
Speaker 2: But I also love it as like foreplay, like talking
Speaker 2: shit and kind of it's so funny to me because
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, of course, naturally, that's a part of wrestling,
Speaker 2: Like that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I'm like, please don't.
Speaker 2: I'm a tender spirit with big arms, like a cancer
Speaker 2: big arms.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she is sensitive.
Speaker 2: So, Denzel, you talked a bit about your persona earlier
Speaker 2: this episode, and I'm curious, has this wrestling persona that
Speaker 2: you've built for the scene that you're involved in brought
Speaker 2: anything out in you in your personal life? Like do
Speaker 2: you shut off Denzel when you're done? Or do you
Speaker 2: think it's kind of taught you about yourself?
Speaker 1: It definitely taught me about myself for sure.
Speaker 4: I think there's aspects of masochism and sadism that I
Speaker 4: just really wasn't tapped into previously. I know that I've
Speaker 4: always been competitive and I've always wanted this urge to win.
Speaker 1: But exploring this like more.
Speaker 4: Subside of myself, even though I don't do it often,
Speaker 4: is something that has bubbled up, I guess in my
Speaker 4: personal life.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, so, Denzel, thank you so much for
Speaker 2: joining us today.
Speaker 1: When we come back, you'll hear our final cruising confession
Speaker 1: of the season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Park, all right, So a few years back, I
Speaker 3: had been messing with this guy to meet at a
Speaker 3: park and message when I got there and said, okay,
Speaker 3: you know, let's have a good time. We decided to
Speaker 3: head over to the band show and throw up my fans,
Speaker 3: have some fun finish. I get back to my car
Speaker 3: and I mented him to say, hey, that was a
Speaker 3: really good time. You know, we should do that again,
Speaker 3: And the dude messages back and goes, what the hell
Speaker 3: are you talking about? I'm still waiting for you by
Speaker 3: the bleachers. I got it off inside a completely different guy.
Speaker 3: To this day, I don't know who it is, but
Speaker 3: fun times.
Speaker 1: A case of mistaken identity.
Speaker 2: I kind of love this because it to me, it
Speaker 2: means that they didn't exchange photos, which is always such
Speaker 2: a daring thing to do, to be like, all right,
Speaker 2: I'll meet you at this place. It's kind of like
Speaker 2: a blind fuck date that you set up yourself, which
Speaker 2: is lovely, very adventurous.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have definitely hooked up with folks on
Speaker 1: Siffi's without seeing a photo. But I'm also messaging them
Speaker 1: until we are connected and like seeing them respond to
Speaker 1: my message.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what happens when you go cruising in
Speaker 2: the park, sometimes things find you.
Speaker 1: That's the beauty of it. I kind of like that.
Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, it means that this is a heavily
Speaker 1: cruised area.
Speaker 2: The fact that you could wait by the bancholl and
Speaker 2: find a different person that was not to do.
Speaker 1: Exact, but you were kind of right. Did he like
Speaker 1: go for a round two with this other person?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I would have gone back idly figured out,
Speaker 1: give me some minutes. I'll be good.
Speaker 2: A second courtesy comeshot like you gotta, absolutely, it's the
Speaker 2: least second I can get you off.
Speaker 1: Yeah. If you want to hear your own cruising confessions
Speaker 1: on an upcoming episode of this podcast, you can call
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Speaker 2: Okay, we're at the end of this episode, so let's
Speaker 2: recap a little bit for audience.
Speaker 1: What do we enjoy? What do we learn? What did
Speaker 1: we like? Chris talked so much. I was very pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 1: I knew very little about this sort of scene.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that there was such a strong Kinker
Speaker 2: fetishine surrounding wrestling.
Speaker 1: Like I always.
Speaker 2: Assumed that singlets were kind of thrown into that category
Speaker 2: of queer gear that is associated with things we don't
Speaker 2: do right. It's like sometimes I'll I'll see like men
Speaker 2: walking around wearing dickies like they work in construction.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a costume. That's a little that's gear now, right,
Speaker 1: this man.
Speaker 2: Walking around in dicky's a single hammer in his life.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, But I also felt like, so like I
Speaker 1: love singlets, and I love the way that it feels.
Speaker 1: I love that, and like there is something erotic about
Speaker 1: that for me. I do have people hit me up
Speaker 1: to engage in like wrestling, but I'm always like I
Speaker 1: don't know if I can get to a place where
Speaker 1: this could be sexy for me. And yet and yet
Speaker 1: I found out today that like I could see that happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with the right person and like the right dynamic and
Speaker 1: the right steaks. You know, absolutely, if I'm promised a
Speaker 1: thing at the end, if I win or lose, yeah
Speaker 1: we got some steaks for you.
Speaker 2: Truly, I'm a clown at heart, So anything that involves
Speaker 2: like running around wearing something silly and getting to be
Speaker 2: a fool I'm down, like absolutely, no question in the clown.
Speaker 2: I Also, I feel like every hookup I have is
Speaker 2: like a little bit of wrestling, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: everyone's taller, ye climb that.
Speaker 1: A certain experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just got to take them out at the
Speaker 2: ankle or the knees, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like, that's it's my strategy. It's my strategy right now, folks.
Speaker 2: This is also the last episode of season two, so
Speaker 2: if you've enjoyed it, please leave us a comment. You
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Speaker 1: Please leave reviews. Those reviews really help us, let us
Speaker 1: know what we're doing well, what we can improve on,
Speaker 1: and as we looked to other seasons, we want to
Speaker 1: bring you the content that you're looking for.
Speaker 2: I feel like I've learned a ton this season and
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it. If you'd like to watch the
Speaker 2: season three, we might be back sooner.
Speaker 1: You think sooner? Really new think?
Speaker 2: So before we sign off for this season, I do
Speaker 2: want to thank our guest today, Denzel Dixon. You can
Speaker 2: purchase Denzel's erotic wrestling content at denzeld wrestling dot com
Speaker 2: and follow him on social media at Denzel Wrestle. Snippy's
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