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Speaker 2: All right, well, look, I appreciate you guys coming and

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Speaker 2: hanging out today and talk about this draft. I think

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Speaker 2: it's it feels like it takes forever to get to

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Speaker 2: It feels like there's a there's still a good bit

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Speaker 2: it looks like kind of know where things might be

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Speaker 2: hanging with you guys today and fire away.

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Speaker 3: And when you look at some of the decisions made

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Speaker 3: who decided to enter, who decided not to enter. How

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Speaker 3: much do you think that the new economics of college

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Speaker 3: football effect the draft now and the depth of the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it has a big impact

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Speaker 2: I think other positions that's had a bigger impact, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think in years past, the easiest sell for an

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Speaker 2: start getting paid for these carries you have in your

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Speaker 2: they're easier to sell. You're going to make more money

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Speaker 2: to go back to Penn State and see if they could,

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Speaker 2: you know, finish off off what they got close to

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Speaker 2: Like there's no way you keep up that pace. So

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Speaker 4: Thank you. Our next question came from Dave Briquette.

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Speaker 5: Hey, DJ, appreciate your time as always here. Just wanted

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Speaker 5: you to weigh in on two prospects if you if

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Speaker 5: you could, first on as Araku, is he a one

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Speaker 5: trick pony or how do you sort of see him

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Speaker 5: you know, how good is Josh Simmons, Like where would

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Speaker 2: Sure? As Rokuo I would you know, It's funny when

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Speaker 2: got a million different moves, and it's why he was

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Speaker 2: if you just watch his tape, put his pure talent

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Speaker 4: Next question comes from Mike Chappel in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Dan, Well, this is apparently such a deep draft

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Speaker 2: I think there is a gap between those two and

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Speaker 2: the rest of the group. I think those two guys

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Speaker 2: I think it's just a flavor thing. You know, what

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Speaker 2: little more quickness off the line, a little more quick

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Speaker 2: create separation. Warren is just a big, massive bully who's

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Speaker 2: he's he's better on the move, whereas Loveland, if you're

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Speaker 2: the quarterback, he's going to be a little more comfortable there,

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Speaker 2: Whereas I think Warren, you run him down the seam,

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Speaker 2: if we got wiped out, we could just take Mason Taylor.

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Speaker 4: Next question comes from Jim Wyatt with the Tech Titans. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you, Daniel.

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Speaker 7: I guess how Cortain are you about what's going to

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Speaker 4: And then what makes sense for the Titans at two?

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Speaker 2: It sure feels like a slam dunk. I would be Uh,

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Speaker 2: I'd be pretty shocked if if they didn't go with

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Speaker 2: then it comes to them, what's the intrigue when they

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Speaker 2: get to pick number thirty five? You know, I think

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of different directions they could look to

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Speaker 2: go there. Usually when you invest in a young quarterback,

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Speaker 2: Higgins from from Iowa State would be a fun player

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Speaker 2: to drop into that mix. Uh, to give him a

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Speaker 2: they have other areas they could go, potentially on the

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Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball. But man, when you and

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Speaker 4: Next question comes from Dan Wiederer with the Chicago Tribune.

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Speaker 8: Hey, DJ, always appreciate the insight. Kind of a multi

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Speaker 8: layered question here. Knowing how the top one hundred of

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Speaker 8: the opportunity the Bears have next week to mix and

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Speaker 8: match those those top seventy five picks, four of them

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Speaker 8: and create kind of a gift basket that they feel

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Speaker 8: good with. And then I guess along with that, which

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Speaker 8: Day two?

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good one. They're in a fantastic position

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Speaker 2: when you're picking ten thirty nine seventy two. They get

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Speaker 2: four instant impact players. With the way this draft shakes out,

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Speaker 2: so I'm I'm as excited for them. We did a

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Speaker 2: thing the other day on teams that have the you know,

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Speaker 2: the most opportunity in this draft, and they'd be near

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Speaker 2: the top of the list in terms of positions that

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Speaker 2: you probably don't want to wait on. If you're dead

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Speaker 2: set on getting an offensive tackle and you want to

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Speaker 2: do that with your first pick. I just don't love

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Speaker 2: the possibilities of of you seeing someone that's gonna be

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Speaker 2: an upgrade over what you have once you get into

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Speaker 2: the second round of this particular draft. So that would

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Speaker 2: be kind of the thought process there. If it's close

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Speaker 2: with some of these other players, I could see them

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Speaker 2: leaning in that direction and just checking the tackle off

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Speaker 2: you know, there's a there's a good bit of depth there.

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Speaker 2: They want to reinforce the defensive line, you know, get

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Speaker 2: an edge rusher. To me, like a sweet spot for

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Speaker 2: you know that's a that's a great area to find

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Speaker 4: Next question comes from Ben Volan with the Boston Globe.

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Speaker 9: Have you gotten any sense that the Giants are not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say I feel Look, I feel pretty

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Speaker 4: Next question comes from John Glennon in Nashville.

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Speaker 10: Question for you in regard to the Titans and maybe

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Speaker 2: The offense just wasn't you know, what it had been previously.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see any decline in his skills as a player.

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Speaker 2: He reminded me a lot of Steph Diggs, you know,

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Speaker 2: He's outstanding, you know, one of the best run after

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Speaker 4: Next question comes from Chase Goodbread.

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Speaker 11: Hey, Daniel, hope you're doing well.

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Speaker 12: Just got to want to ask.

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Speaker 11: You a little bit about Jalen Milroe and Alabama. One

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Speaker 11: of the areas of improvement do you think he needs

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Speaker 11: And I guess lastly, do you have a comp for him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to find a comp for him. I

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Speaker 2: He is dynamic, He can make you miss, he can

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Speaker 2: In terms of the things that to work on with him,

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Speaker 2: That impacts his accuracy, you know, the decision making you

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Speaker 2: reference the turnovers. You know, that's to me, that comes

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Speaker 2: with playing, That comes with learning, you know, being in

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Speaker 2: he needs time. I do think he requires patience and

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Speaker 2: the phrase with him that's used more than any other

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Speaker 2: of all the quarterbacks in this draft. That's the lottery ticket,

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Speaker 2: Like if you want to just take a lottery ticket

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Speaker 2: out and it all comes together. He's got the highest

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Speaker 2: the way up to cam Ward at number one, but

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Speaker 2: he is a long way from getting there. So it's

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Speaker 2: to me, it's a it's a classic second round pick.

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Speaker 2: then now you can stop choking up and you can

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Speaker 2: just about everybody universally views him. So you know, we'll see,

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Speaker 2: we'll see where he ends up going. And in terms

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Speaker 2: as a runner coming out, Lamar was light years ahead

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Speaker 4: Next question comes from Eric branch.

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Speaker 13: Hey Daniel writing a story about this being such a

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Speaker 13: consequence child draft for the forty nine ers given the

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Speaker 13: way the offseason went, and they you know, they might

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Speaker 13: need really need rookies to actually play, and just like

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Speaker 13: based on Lynch and Shanahan's draft history, should the fan

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Speaker 13: Trey Lance and say, oh, this this is they don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, it's an interesting case. They have done as

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Speaker 2: to me, it's a you know, it seems like a

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Speaker 2: they're going to need these young guys to get on

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Speaker 2: to I'm sure they'll end up getting the Brock Party

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Speaker 4: Next question comes from Jeff Duncan in New Orleans.

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Speaker 14: Hey, DJ, thanks again for doing this kind of a

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Speaker 14: big picture question. You know, Jeff Ireland and his staff

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Speaker 14: And then also, I'm curious, in your opinion, can evaluators

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Speaker 2: and that set them on a run. It's it's so

434
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Speaker 2: hard to maintain it. New Orleans that draft that they had.

435
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Speaker 2: You know, when you look at at what was it

436
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Speaker 2: ramch and Uh and Kamara and all those guys that

437
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 2: they were able to haul in like they shoot, that

438
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 2: sets you up. It's impossible to do it year after

439
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 2: year after year. You know, the Ravens are probably you know,

440
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,640
Speaker 2: one of the best at it. They've been pretty consistent.

441
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 2: They've also had a lot. I think they've had the

442
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Speaker 2: most comp picks of anybody, so they've had more more picks,

443
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,160
Speaker 2: so you get more cracks at it. So it's still

444
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 2: it's it's so hard to do this consistently. It's inexact.

445
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's natural that you're going to

446
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 2: have some ups and downs. I would also say when

447
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Speaker 2: you have the elite, elite, elite Hall of Fame quarterback,

448
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 2: it makes a lot of those picks you know, play

449
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Speaker 2: above their level as well. And they've been navigating waters

450
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Speaker 2: without that the last couple of years.

451
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Speaker 4: Next question comes from Daryl Ledbetter in Atlanta.

452
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Speaker 15: Yeah, DJ, thanks for doing this. It's my annual question on.

453
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Speaker 16: Rush.

454
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Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm big and up Dum Carter and Jalen Walker

455
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 15: age what does it look like after that? And then

456
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Speaker 15: how do they square Green and pierces off the field issues.

457
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean they've got to do their homework on

458
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Speaker 2: those guys and uh and get comfortable with it. You know,

459
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Speaker 2: I don't get all the information that these teams get,

460
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 2: so uh, you know, they've got to bring him in,

461
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 2: be around them, talk to everybody around him, and figure

462
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: out whether they're comfortable with those situations. But as a player,

463
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Speaker 2: and I look at at guys that would fit them

464
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Speaker 2: and I think would be as football players, would would

465
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Speaker 2: be really really productive. Mike Green, to me, it's just

466
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Speaker 2: a He's a skilled, gifted pass rusher who can win,

467
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Speaker 2: you know, with speed and with power. So you know,

468
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Speaker 2: between him and Pierce, I would lean towards Green in

469
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Speaker 2: that conversation. Uh, I'm curious to see with Shamar Stewart

470
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Speaker 2: from Texas A and M is easily the most polarizing

471
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Speaker 2: edge rusher in this draft, and he is the ultimate

472
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Speaker 2: example of traits versus production. He has got all kinds

473
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Speaker 2: of twitch, he's explosive, he's disruptive. He just hasn't been

474
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 2: able to you know, to finish, to compile sacks. But

475
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 2: more and more teams don't really you know, they aren't

476
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Speaker 2: focusing quite as much on the sack number as they

477
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 2: are on win percentage, pressure percentage, where he's more than

478
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Speaker 2: functional there he plays really really hard. He would you know,

479
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 2: he would be an interesting one. I would keep an eye.

480
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Speaker 2: I would not rule out, but there are teams with

481
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Speaker 2: wildly different grades on him, top ten grades, second round grades,

482
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 2: like that type of range. But I would think he'll

483
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Speaker 2: definitely be in that conversation.

484
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Speaker 4: Next question comes from Sam Fortyer with Washington Post.

485
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Speaker 17: Sam, Hey, DJ, a little bit of a out of

486
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Speaker 17: the box, but I'm curious if bock drafts have become

487
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Speaker 17: more popular during your time doing this, and what is

488
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Speaker 17: your process like to put together your final one.

489
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question. There's a billion of them,

490
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Speaker 2: so yeah, it's become a heck of a lot more popular.

491
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Speaker 2: From when I started scouting in Baltimore in two thousand

492
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Speaker 2: and three, I mean, there was like you would wait,

493
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Speaker 2: you would wait, there'd be ever you know, you'd get

494
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 2: You'd get one mock draft every couple of weeks. They

495
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 2: just weren't they didn't exist. It was very few. It

496
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 2: was mel and I think Todd was probably doing one

497
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: back then. But there weren't nothing like there is now.

498
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 2: So there's a million of them. I always, you know,

499
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Speaker 2: I always look at it like the first, all the

500
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Speaker 2: all the mock rafts until the last one. You're going

501
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Speaker 2: off a little bit of what you hear. I mean,

502
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 2: I always go off what I hear, not what I

503
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 2: would do. I should preference that. But to me, the

504
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: the of the accuracy and which information you're getting a

505
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 2: month before the draft, it's there's not much there. So

506
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 2: you're just looking at different scenarios. Oh if this guy,

507
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Speaker 2: what if this were to happen, then how would that

508
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 2: impact the rest of it? Whereas you get to the

509
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 2: last one, at that point in time, I've talked to,

510
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of folks and gathered a lot

511
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Speaker 2: of information, and I'm trying to just go off of,

512
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 2: you know, what I hear, and then looking at you know,

513
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,479
Speaker 2: looking at the historical stuff that they've done, you know,

514
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 2: marrying that with their needs, what's been said publicly by

515
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 2: coaches and general managers. So I put all that into it,

516
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: and then at the end of the day you get

517
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: like seven out of thirty two and you just go, Okay,

518
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 2: well that what was that all for? But uh, it's

519
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 2: a you know, it's all part of that exercise. I

520
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 2: think it's fun teams. You'd be shocked how many teams

521
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 2: call and want to know who you think certain people

522
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: are taking. So I enjoy it. It's a fun game,

523
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 2: but it's a darn near impossible.

524
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Speaker 4: Next question comes from Ed Valentine with Big Blue View.

525
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Speaker 18: Yeah, hey, you talked about a dual Carter at three

526
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Speaker 18: for the Giants. So much talk with New York about quarterbacks.

527
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Speaker 18: Who do you see as fits for you know, Brian

528
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Speaker 18: Dable and the Giants at quarterback? You know later in

529
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Speaker 18: the draft, who would be the guys you would you

530
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Speaker 18: would favor for them?

531
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've I've been saying the same thing with them,

532
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 2: and that to me a draft I would love for

533
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: the Giants as if they were to put Abdul Carter,

534
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Speaker 2: select him, get him on, and then after that you're

535
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: trying to find somebody who fits you without having to

536
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 2: give away the farm to go get them. I have

537
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: Shudur is my number two. I would have. You know,

538
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have a problem if they, you know, tried

539
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 2: to move up a little bit to get him, but

540
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: parting with massive resources to vault way back up there,

541
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: I don't know that I would love that Jackson Dart

542
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 2: to me just from a you know, a fit a

543
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: little more physical, a little bit more arm. I went,

544
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: he doesn't have a huge arm, but a little bit

545
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 2: more arm playing in that in that stadium, in that division,

546
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 2: and the weather you might encounter. I thought that one

547
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: would not necessarily require a huge cost to move up

548
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 2: if they were to, for instance, if they just wanted

549
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 2: to get up in front of Pittsburgh and get to twenty,

550
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: the cost would be a two. One of their threes

551
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 2: this year in a five, they still have another three left,

552
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 2: so you could conceivably come out of your first three

553
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 2: picks with Abdul Carter, you know, arguably the best player

554
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 2: in the draft. Everybody would say, one of the two

555
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: best players in the draft, a quarterback of the future

556
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 2: in Jet and Dart, who you don't necessarily have to

557
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: start right away, and then whoever you'd find there in

558
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: the third round. That's, to me, is a really nice

559
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: haul for the Giants.

560
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Speaker 4: Next question comes from Jewelry Epstein.

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Speaker 19: Hi, Daniel, thanks for doing this. Most of today's NFL

562
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Speaker 19: quarterbacks to not play high school football running the wing tea,

563
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 19: but Cam Wored did just that. Do you have a

564
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Speaker 19: sense of how rare the wing tea to first round

565
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Speaker 19: pick journey is for today's quarterbacks. And how do you

566
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 19: think that high school background influences Cam's play style.

567
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a great question. I'd have to go back,

568
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 2: but I want to say Josh Allen did a little

569
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 2: bit of that in high school as well. I think

570
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 2: he ran the ball quite a bit. So I've heard

571
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: of it before of other guys who've been stuck, and

572
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: it used to happen a lot more in the past.

573
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 2: You know, it's a different era now and everybody's in

574
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 2: seven on seven. Everybody's spreading people out and throwing it

575
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: in high school, so it's definitely happened in the past.

576
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 2: But I do think it does inform some of your toughness,

577
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 2: you know. I always like it when you get quarterbacks

578
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Speaker 2: that you know, maybe didn't go to the powerhouse high

579
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 2: school and they got to play both sides of the ball.

580
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 2: You know, maybe they're playing safety or you know, some

581
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,719
Speaker 2: of them are big enough, or even playing a linebacker,

582
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: but yeah, you're more comfortable with contact. He's someone that

583
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: when I go through and watch his tape, one of

584
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: the things I love most about him was his ability

585
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: to pull through tackles, like you get guys that'll get

586
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: free runs at him, and he's able to just kind

587
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: of shrug him off and pull through tackles. For a

588
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: guy who's not six y five, two hundred and forty pounds,

589
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 2: he's really really strong. So yeah, I think that's a

590
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: I think that's a you know, it's a great point.

591
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: When you play in that type of an offense, you're

592
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 2: going to be a little bit more rough and tumble,

593
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: a little more rugged, and there's absolutely no fear in

594
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Speaker 2: what he's doing out there.

595
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 4: Next question comes from Parker Gabriel with did the Dever post.

596
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Speaker 12: Sean Peyton and George Payton have talked a lot about

597
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 12: the different types of running backs in this class and

598
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 12: have sort of talked about looking for a guy that

599
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 12: can play on third down and you know, manage all

600
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 12: three downs for you, whether it's a twenty fifty one

601
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 12: or in your trade back scenario a little bit in between.

602
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 12: Who's a guy If it's not Gentier Hampton, who do

603
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 12: you like there? Or maybe it just is as simple

604
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 12: as Omaron Hampton.

605
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Marion Hampton can do all those things, you know.

606
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: To me, Trayvon Henderson would be a heck of a weapon,

607
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 2: and we've seen Sean with running backs like that. To me,

608
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: I think he would be a fun one. The other

609
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: one who I would look at for them and kind

610
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: of that I want to say Sprolls just sprolls ish role,

611
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: but someone who would just be a nightmare out of

612
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Speaker 2: the backfield if they want to throw the ball to

613
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Speaker 2: the backs, which he loves to do. Jayden Blue from

614
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: Texas big time, big time speed and he is an

615
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: excellent route runner. Shad Smith is another one that's that's

616
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: two guys that are basically receivers that you line up

617
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: at running back and you can run. You can get

618
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: him out in the route, split him out, and they're

619
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: they're a nightmare. Like you can watch Jayden Blue just

620
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: on angle routes. He just tears people up and he's

621
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: got big time, big time home run speed. So those

622
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: guys would be kind of like the committee fits. But

623
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: if you're looking for the guys just you know, first

624
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: through third down, don't come off the field, can do everything.

625
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: To me, I would I would look at Hampton and

626
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: I would look at Travon Henderson as probably being the

627
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: captains of that team.

628
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Speaker 4: Next question comes from Stuart Jackson with the Rams. Stewart,

629
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 4: you may ask your question.

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Speaker 20: Hey, DJ, appreciate your time this morning. Want to ask

631
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Speaker 20: you about the Rams options that pick twenty six. Seems

632
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 20: like they, you know, left the door up into really

633
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 20: any possibility with the way they approached free agency. Just

634
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 20: what do you make of that slot now and how

635
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 20: might they approach it given the way that they again

636
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 20: like went about free agency.

637
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, I look in the corners as being

638
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: an option for him there that one would make some sense.

639
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: I wouldn't sleep on, you know, a guy like Mason Taylor.

640
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: If that was someone that they really loved and were

641
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: comfortable with, they could go that route as a tight end.

642
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: You know, Trey Amos to me as a guy that

643
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: just for some reason struck me as a less need

644
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: type a player. He's just so consistent and so solid,

645
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: can do a lot of different things. They've bought. I

646
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: would say what the Rams have done, They've got a

647
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: lot of guys who were just ready made, like just

648
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: polished good football players, not getting enamored or carried away

649
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: with other things, and just kind of focused, laser focused

650
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: on getting guys that when you watch them on grass

651
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: with pads On are really really good, not getting too

652
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: carried away or enamored with everything else. And to me,

653
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: that's those are two guys, and Trey Amos and Mason Taylor,

654
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: who I feel like I know one hundred percent who

655
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: they are and what they're all what they're all about.

656
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Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

657
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Speaker 20: Thank you ye.

658
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 4: Next question comes from Q Myers in Las Vegas.

659
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: Q DJ, thanks for your time. Man.

660
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 21: All roads have led to Ashton jen t being the

661
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 21: Raiders pick at number number six one. What's the chances

662
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 21: that he might get selected before they get that opportunity

663
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 21: and how much do you think that Pete, Carolyn and

664
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Speaker 21: even Tom Brady in particular may be intrigued by the

665
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 21: door if he happens to slide the six as well.

666
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, I would think. I

667
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: would think with Gino that he's got a little more

668
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: runway there, you know, and and knowing the affinity that

669
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: that Pete has for him, So I think it's both

670
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: things can be true. I think they could like Shador,

671
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: but then also, you know, feel like that's not the

672
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: right time to to already make that move. So to me,

673
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: I I I would have said a month ago Ashon

674
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: Genty will be there, and he'd be a great option

675
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: for him as we come down the home stretch. And

676
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: maybe I'm maybe I'm reading too much into this, but

677
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: when I listened to the guys in Jacksonville talk, and

678
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: you listen to the head coach and the general manager

679
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: discuss what they're looking for in a player, and they

680
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: talk about a statement pick and the first pick of

681
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: their new their new regime there and you know, valuing

682
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: the things that they're valuing in terms of the character,

683
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: the competitiveness, all those things. I'm like, golly, it sounds

684
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: like two players to me. That sounds like Ashton Genty

685
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: and that sounds like Jayalen Walker. So I would not

686
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: rule out the possibility that Genty, you know, went went

687
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: ahead of that pick and then he's off the board.

688
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: And when I talked to you know folks that uh,

689
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: you know tight with those inside the Raiders organization, they've

690
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: talked about the line of scrimmage has been a big

691
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: focus and man, they're in they're in a really good

692
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: spot on that defensive line if they can stay healthy.

693
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: And I'm like, man, what if you if you added

694
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: you know, a Mason Graham to that group and he's

695
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: playing next to Wilkins and Max like and Coon's like,

696
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: that's that's pretty fun to see what that could look like,

697
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: or you know, you look at it. You know, if

698
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: Jalen Walker's there, adding just a fastball and a versatile

699
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: chess piece that you could move around, those would be fun.

700
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: And then on the offensive side of the ball. You know, again,

701
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: I'm always looking trying to find connections and what it

702
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: could look like. And when I was talking about offensive

703
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: lineman and maybe someone who could you know, could be

704
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: eventual your long term starter at a tackle spot, but

705
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: if you wanted to, you could play him at a

706
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: guard you know, Kelvin Bank. It's not hard to draw

707
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: the line between Pete Carroll, Steve Sarkisian and Calvin Banks.

708
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: So that's another one I just kind of was thinking about.

709
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 4: Next question comes from Antoine Staley.

710
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 22: Hey, DJ, the Jets need a tight end help. They

711
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 22: also date right tackle help. If you could just kind

712
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 22: of analyze just the debate there at seven and if

713
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 22: the Jets were to take a tight end at you know,

714
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 22: at seven, just some of the options at right tackle

715
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 22: later on day two.

716
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think you're gonna you know you're going

717
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: to be in a good spot there to get somebody

718
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: that comes right in and makes an impact and starts.

719
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: They could kind of put the finishing piece on the

720
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: offensive line with someone like Membo who put he'd be comfortable.

721
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: Just plug him right in at right tackle. He'd be

722
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: very comfortable there, and all of a sudden, now what

723
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: was you know, an endless journey to fix the offensive line?

724
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: You could almost say it's pretty complete with him to

725
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: me as a player, just as simply how you grate him.

726
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: I'd have both those tight ends over him. So if

727
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: they want to stay best available and stay true to

728
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: the board, I would take Tyler Warren, and I would

729
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: I wouldn't hesitate to take Colson Lovelin either. I think

730
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: both those guys are are worthy of being selected there.

731
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: If they did go with a tight end there and

732
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 2: took the highest available player, you start looking at the

733
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 2: tackles once you get to you know, the next round,

734
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: Let's see where were they picking here? And they are

735
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: picking forty two, Man, it's going to be I don't

736
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: think you're gonna I don't think you're gonna love the

737
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: tackle options they're going to be there at that point

738
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: in time. I picked forty two. I think Simmons is gone.

739
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 2: I think Connerly's gone. So now you start getting into

740
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 2: you know, like Ozzy Trapillo is maybe a starting right tackle.

741
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 2: It's probably a little bit early for him. You know.

742
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: Emery Jones is a possibility from LSU. You've got like

743
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: a big upside play and a raw player, and Charles

744
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: Grant from William and Mary, but I think he's probably

745
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: more of a third round guy who's going to take

746
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: some time. So you know, if you're looking at trying

747
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: to package the two together, I would like the tight

748
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: ends I would be looking at in the second round

749
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: more than I would like to ta ackles. So that

750
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: could inform their decision that they say, hey, let's get

751
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: let's just solve the offensive line once and for all,

752
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: be done with it. I mean, you take you know,

753
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: armand Membu or if you took Banks, you know, one

754
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 2: of those guys. Now we've solved the offensive line, and

755
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 2: now you're looking at like an Arroyo from Miami in

756
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: the second round, which would be you know, would be

757
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 2: an upgrade over anybody they have with that position at

758
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: tight end.

759
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 4: Next question comes from Mooki Alexander.

760
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 23: Last time we did this conference call, it was right

761
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 23: before the NFL Combine, and the Seahawks still had DK

762
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 23: Metcalf and Tyler Lockett roster, and they also had Geno Smith,

763
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 23: but all of them are gone upstair and the Seahawks

764
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 23: have sense signed Zam Darnold in free agency, and then

765
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 23: from the wide receiver standpoint, they've signed Cooper Cupp and Marquette,

766
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 23: Mark Wetz, Valveez Scantling and free agency. So my question

767
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 23: to you is Seattle's only receivers under contract through twenty

768
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 23: twenty six our Cup and Jackson Smith and Jigba. So

769
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 23: are there any receivers from this class, particularly ones in

770
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 23: that day one to day two projected range, who stand

771
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 23: out to you as potential fits and draft targets for

772
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 23: Seattle's offense? Or alternatively, could you see Seattle making a

773
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 23: play for a major receiving tight end like Colston Loveland

774
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 23: or going for say a Royal or Taylor.

775
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean with where they're picking, if one of

776
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: those tight ends, one of those top two tight ends

777
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: were to get there, I think I would have a

778
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: hard time passing on them just for the value that

779
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: they represent. But you know, to me, if I was

780
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: saying building out this team, where would you feel that

781
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 2: they need to go? You know, to me, interior offensive

782
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 2: line early would be more of a focus. You know,

783
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: if I'm just looking at it and I want to

784
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: feel comfortable, I look at a couple guys. Grays Abel

785
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: if he was there, I think would be a great fit.

786
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 2: Not only can he you know, come in and start

787
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: right away, he's going to lie to get your best

788
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: five guys on the field because of his versatility, so

789
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 2: you get injuries throughout a season. I think that would

790
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: be a valuable chess piece for him. I would be

791
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: more inclined if you're going to look at a receiver

792
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: for them, when you're looking at fifty and fifty two,

793
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: that would probably be more of the range. I'd be

794
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: looking to address room, and I think they'll be good

795
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: value there with some really solid options. I love I

796
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: mean Jack Besh. You know, the people have compared him

797
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: to Cooper Cup, you know, because of just the toughness

798
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: and all and all that. I think that's you know,

799
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 2: the competitive side of the of that comparison. I get

800
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: someone who could play over the top as well and

801
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: go get the ball. I think he would be a

802
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: fun one to add to their mix. You know, I'm

803
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: looking more for guys that are going to play on

804
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: the outside, So Jack Besh would be one. Tory Horton

805
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: from Colorado State would be another one who can get

806
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: down the field and is a home run hitter who

807
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: also has some big time punt return value. Just you

808
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: got to go back to twenty three to watch him.

809
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 2: He just wasn't healthy at all this year. And Kyle

810
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 2: Williams from Washington State that would not be a long

811
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: drive and that would be a big impact. He's a really,

812
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: really good player. So I'm kind of you know, it's fun.

813
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: This is why I love doing this call, because you

814
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: start thinking about teams outside of the first round and

815
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: who could you know, match their needs And I think

816
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: the Seattle receiver need marries up really well with where

817
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: they're located in the second round.

818
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 4: Next question comes from Nick Kosmeter with the Athletic Hi DJ.

819
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 24: Thanks for your time.

820
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 25: I think earlier you laid out a scenario in which

821
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 25: the Giant You know, if the Giants wanted to get

822
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 25: to twenty where Denver is thirty four sixty five and

823
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 25: then their fifth rounder as well. You see the Browns

824
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 25: like as a potential for that same sort of move,

825
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 25: and Sean Payton typically has not moved back in the

826
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 25: first round. I don't know if he ever has. But

827
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 25: what in this particular scenario would you like about that

828
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 25: move for Denver based on their needs and what that

829
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 25: package would give them where they're selecting.

830
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting point on Sean. And to be honest,

831
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: the fascinating thing to me is with Cleveland and the

832
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 2: Giants if they don't take quarterbacks at two and three,

833
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 2: not only would they both potentially be looking to move up,

834
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: they both have darn near identical draft capital. They each

835
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: have an extra third round pick, so trying to you

836
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: find out, you know, and it's almost a game of

837
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: chicken of who's going to pay the biggest price in

838
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: how much do they love, you know, one of these quarterbacks?

839
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: And I don't even know that they like the same quarterbacks.

840
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 2: So that's kind of an inch interesting thing. But if

841
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: you can't get to Denver from those teams, I'd be

842
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: calling up ahead of them and see if you can't

843
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: get you know, a spot or two in front of

844
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: them as well. In terms of what would be there

845
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 2: if Denver were to slide back I think you're looking

846
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: at to me, like a guy like quin Shawn Judkins

847
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 2: would come into play as you know. To me is

848
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: there's not much difference between Quinn Shawn Judkins grade and

849
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: where I have them in like the early thirties on

850
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: my list versus the thirteenth player on the list, Like,

851
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: there's not tremendous drop off there. So I think you

852
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 2: could find a you know, a big time running back

853
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: at that at that time and get a lot of value.

854
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: I also wouldn't rule out in these trades if they

855
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: do happen, if these teams are looking to the future,

856
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: you know, and looking to acquire picks in the future years.

857
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: So if I'm if I'm Denver, say, you know you're

858
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: looking at Trayvon Henderson or trade back, and I love

859
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: Trayvon Henderson. But if they don't take Trayvon Henderson, they

860
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 2: trade back, you get his teammate in Quinn Shawn Judkins,

861
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: who's a really good player, and I get a future

862
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: pick next year. Maybe it's a two. Now, I'd have

863
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 2: to think along and hard about that.

864
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 4: Next question comes from Authentics with Bleacher Report.

865
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 26: Hey Daniel, a question about the New York Giants have

866
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 26: picked three you know, with the dilemma of either going

867
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 26: VPA or going quarterback there with Shador Sanders, I'm wondering if,

868
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 26: although you did say Abdul Carter seems to be the pick,

869
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 26: do you think that the Giants might be leaning towards

870
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 26: any preference of the best player available there with Travis

871
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 26: Hunter and Abdul Carter. And do you think if the

872
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 26: workout yesterday with Shador Sanders insinuates maybe there's a little

873
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 26: bit of a divide in the front office with the Giants.

874
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll start at the end there, Like I talked

875
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 2: to somebody in their front office a week over a

876
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: week ago, and he had told me about this workout

877
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 2: that was coming up. So I think some people maybe

878
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: misunderstood that a little bit of like, oh, this is

879
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: a last minute like let's get out there and work

880
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,959
Speaker 2: this guy out. With the calendar and these kids taking

881
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: visits to other schools and having workouts, I think this

882
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 2: is just kind of where it landed on the calendar.

883
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: But I think it had been planned for quite some time.

884
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. I couldn't tell you with any certainty

885
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: that they're going to take Abdul Carter or they're going

886
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: to take a quarterback or or you know, what their

887
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: mindset is there other than the fact that you know,

888
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 2: they said at the press conference the other day they're

889
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: comfortable lining up and playing with with what they have

890
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: with Russell and you know, and with Jamis. So I

891
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 2: don't to me, it didn't sound there's no reason to

892
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 2: you know, kind of hide it. You know, I don't

893
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: see Cleveland trading out to get away from, you know,

894
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: somebody coming up in front of you to take somebody.

895
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 2: I think Cleveland's going to take Travis Hunter. It feels

896
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: pretty you know, pretty at this point in time, pretty

897
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: locked in with one and two. So I just wouldn't

898
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: see the need to, uh to address it that way.

899
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 2: So I'm leaning towards them taking a non quarterback there,

900
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: and Abdul Carter seems to be the obvious pick, but

901
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: I think they would they would like to come out

902
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: of this draft with it, you know, a quarterback at

903
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: some point in time. It's just a matter of how

904
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: aggressive they want to be.

905
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 4: Next question comes from David faronez.

906
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: Hi DJ for the Miami Dolphins. With this latest development

907
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: that they're looking to trade Jalen Ramsey, do you think

908
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: finding a quality starting corner for years to come. Now

909
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: becomes the utmost priority for them in this draft, Like

910
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 1: do they have to snag either Will Johnson or John

911
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: ay barn And if it doesn't go that way in

912
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: round one, how much do you like those corners are

913
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: figured to go in the second? If you could maybe

914
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 1: break down the different possibilities there.

915
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that they're you know, I don't

916
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: think they're one position, one player away in terms of

917
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: like we have to draft a corner and that's the

918
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: last piece of our puzzle here. I think they can

919
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: be a little bit more best player available, you know,

920
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 2: with where they're looking at that point in time this

921
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: you know, I'd be curious to see how they would

922
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: have the corners versus the safeties stacked, because you know,

923
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: there's two really really good safeties in this draft, So

924
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 2: that could be an area that they they look is

925
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: at Emon Warri? Is it is it Malachi Starks? How

926
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: do those guys stack up? And you know, Will Johnson's

927
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 2: got a wide range. He could be gone, he could

928
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: slide into the early twenties. So you know, if he's there,

929
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: how how do they view him as a fit. I

930
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: don't think he's a you know, a press man leave

931
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: him alone corner, so you know, it would be interesting

932
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: to see how they value that with the safeties versus

933
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: the corners. And if you're looking at corners in the

934
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: second round, they're picking forty eight. So if I go

935
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 2: and look at the guys who I think have a

936
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: chance to be there, who could be some impact players.

937
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 2: You know, Ben Morrison would never be there in a

938
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: million years if he was healthy, but hurt his knee

939
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: in October, so he's not been healthy through the process,

940
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: but the corner out of Notre Dame would be a

941
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: heck of a value. At that point in time, you

942
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 2: start getting into Revel from East Carolina, another one coming

943
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: off of a torn acl So those are two guys

944
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: that you might get some value on because of them

945
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 2: dropping a little bit because I didn't have a healthy process.

946
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 2: So those are a couple options there if you're looking

947
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: at pick forty eight, and then just for fun, if

948
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: you're looking at pick ninety eight, I still think there's

949
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: quality players available. Noel Williams from cow I love Darien Porter.

950
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 2: It could be in around that range. Who's a height, weight,

951
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: speed corner from iowas Date Jacob Parrish from Kansas State.

952
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: I think there's a good group. I would not feel

953
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: at all, you know, when you go through that little

954
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 2: exercise that you have to take a corner to replace

955
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey in the first round. I think you can

956
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: find other guys you can plug in there on Day two.

957
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 4: Next question comes from Andrew Mason.

958
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 27: Following up on the Bronco as an O'marian Hampton from earlier.

959
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 27: Given where that team is playoff team, young quarterback, good defense,

960
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 27: is Hampton that much better a fit to where he's

961
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 27: worth them considering a trade up or with the running

962
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 27: back class? Is it better to let the board follow

963
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 27: as it may because of the depth and quality available

964
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 27: this year.

965
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, before free agency, I would have told

966
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 2: you if the Denver Broncos were going to be ultra

967
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: aggressive and trade up for somebody, it would be Colston Lovelin.

968
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: He just is a great fit for what Sean Payton

969
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: does and just seemed like an obvious one. Now they

970
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: won out and picked up Evan Ingram and gave him

971
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: some decent money, So that might, you know, that might

972
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: take that off the table, But I'm still got that

973
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 2: in the back of my mind. Of man, that's just

974
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 2: still such a good fit. So I know that's not

975
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: the position you're referencing, but that's one that it still has.

976
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: Uh has my years perked up to see what happens

977
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: there on the running back side of it. Man, I

978
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: I love Trayvon Henderson as well, so you know, Omari

979
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: and Hampton would be would be an unbelievable pick there.

980
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 2: But I think there's enough guys and there's enough depth

981
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 2: at this position that I don't know that you would

982
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: necessarily have to, you know, have to do that. I

983
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: think you can kind of let and see how it

984
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: falls at that specific position. But you know, I don't

985
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: know why. I just keep coming back to the leveling

986
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: thing thinking that was that was a Sean Payton fit.

987
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 4: Next question comes from John McMullen talking about Howie thirty two.

988
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 7: You mentioned h Walter Nolan a little bit earlier, who

989
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 7: had him going.

990
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 4: What do you think the range is though?

991
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 7: Is he somebody who could one or two teams decide

992
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 7: to go into a different direction.

993
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: Could he fall that low? I would say it's unlikely

994
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: that he falls that low. He's just too explosive in

995
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: a passing league. I just I can't see him getting there.

996
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: But if you'd asked me if Nolan Smith was going

997
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: to get there, I would have said no. If you'd

998
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 2: asked me if Cooper Dejen was going to be there

999
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: in the second round, I would have said no. So look,

1000
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: you always prepare for it and you always be pleasantly

1001
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: surprised of who falls. But I would not anticipate that

1002
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: he would drop that far. I think he could end

1003
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: up going and you know, if he went in the

1004
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: top fifteen, I wouldn't be shocked. So yeah, that one

1005
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: would surprise me if he made it all the way

1006
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 2: down there. In terms of the Eagles and where they

1007
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 2: could look, I just didn't I just imagine and how

1008
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: he's office that you just you just gather the offensive

1009
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 2: staff and the defensive staff and they're just lobbying for

1010
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: which offense or defensive lineman they would love to have

1011
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: at that point in time. And I would also say,

1012
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: with where they are as a team and their roster,

1013
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: and you go through and look at they're in pretty

1014
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: good shape. They have a ton of picks. I think

1015
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 2: they have twelve picks next year, so they they could

1016
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 2: be they could be a team. We're always looking at

1017
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: teams looking to move back. They could be a team that,

1018
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: you know, say it's him, you know, say it's Walter

1019
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: Nolan is there, maybe that's you know someone they would

1020
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: be aggressive to move up. I wouldn't sleep on you know,

1021
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: Shamar Stewart is an explosive player that they that they

1022
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,959
Speaker 2: could use and fit that if he starts to drop,

1023
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: they could go up and get him. I think there's

1024
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 2: a lot of teams this draft that would like to

1025
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 2: go and reverse, and the Eagles might be one of

1026
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: the few teams it would really be willing to put

1027
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: their foot on the gas and go get somebody.

1028
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 4: Next question comes, I'm Blaine grishakt.

1029
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 28: Hey DJ, thanks for doing this. I'm just kind of

1030
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 28: looking at the kind of the mid round tight ends.

1031
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 28: How do teams kind of feel about Harold Fannin Jr.

1032
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 28: And they as divided as kind of media is on

1033
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 28: his athleticism and his movement skills and then kind of

1034
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 28: what separates him where how much how much of the

1035
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 28: gap is there between him and the guy like like

1036
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 28: Mason Taylor.

1037
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: There, Yeah, there's teams that have fan and over Taylor.

1038
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 2: So he's a tight end. Darling, there's always Uh, it's

1039
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: kind of like a running joke in among scouts. We

1040
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: always laugh about it because these position coaches go to

1041
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: workout players, so if you're the tight end, coaches will

1042
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: all kind of hop around and all go to the

1043
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: pro days of the top tight ends and they're around

1044
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 2: each other a lot, and we would always joke that

1045
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: it's like the it's like the poster child for group think,

1046
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 2: where everybody kind of gets together and they all kind

1047
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: of have their guys that they like and then the

1048
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 2: guys that they don't like. But the you know, the take.

1049
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: The consensus was Harold Fannon was the coaching favorite this

1050
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: year for all the tight end coaches that they all

1051
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: really really liked him, and I shoot, I like him too.

1052
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: He's he's a really good player. I think he's going

1053
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 2: to go in the second round when it's all said

1054
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: and done, you know, maybe the middle to the back

1055
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 2: portion of the second round. You know, when you go

1056
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: up against Penn State and do what he did and

1057
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: then you show against Texas A and M when you're

1058
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: running away from everybody, it looks a little different watching

1059
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: him run. It's kind of you know, he ran four

1060
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 2: to seven ones. He didn't like blow it out, but

1061
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 2: he's he's faster than you think, and he just has

1062
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 2: a knack for forgetting open, separating and it's kind of

1063
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 2: a different looking kind of a waddle that he uses

1064
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 2: as a runner. But he covers ground, he make people miss,

1065
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: and he's uh and he's just excellent with the ball

1066
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: in his hands. So to me, I think he's at

1067
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: the worst case scenario top of three, but I think

1068
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: he's got a good shot at going in the middle

1069
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: of the back portion of two.

1070
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 4: Next question comes from NR Media.

1071
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 29: So I want to talk about the Dallas Cowboys. In

1072
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 29: my opinion, this is the most interesting team also in

1073
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 29: the draft, and as you know, they made a lot

1074
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 29: of offseason moves. So I got to ask you what

1075
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 29: do you think they will do? Because there's gent rumors

1076
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 29: going on and wide receiver rumors. But if gents goes

1077
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 29: before them, I have them taking a receiver like Matthew

1078
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 29: Golden or mcmilland, So what do you think the Dallas

1079
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 29: Cowboys should do with all the offseason moves and with

1080
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 29: the new regime now with the first time head coach,

1081
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 29: and this is a big year for them too.

1082
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think my last mock draft I had him

1083
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 2: taking Matthew Golden as well, So I see the fit

1084
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 2: with you there. I think they need to upgrade that

1085
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: receiver room for sure. The expectation though, and talking to

1086
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 2: folks around the league in regards to the Cowboys, is

1087
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 2: they've done a lot of work on his interior offensive Lineman.

1088
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: You know, I think they said the other day at

1089
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 2: the press conference they would be more likely. I don't

1090
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: know if it was Steven, but somebody in their press

1091
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: conference said they'd be more likely to trade back than

1092
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 2: to trade up. Which when I hear they've done a

1093
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 2: lot of work on interior offensive Lineman, I'm hearing they

1094
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 2: want to trade back. That matches, you know, because you

1095
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: you know, probably don't love the value of taking the

1096
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 2: interior offensive lineman at twelve. If you can slide back

1097
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 2: a bit and still come away with a Gray Zabel

1098
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: who's a plug and play starter to replace Zach Martin,

1099
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: you know, that makes sense. I you know, I was

1100
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 2: kind of tongue in cheek the other day on television,

1101
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 2: but just talking about the Cowboys, like I do miss

1102
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: the days when they were fun and aggressive. You know,

1103
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: they've done some smart obviously, They've they've drafted well, they've

1104
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 2: been smart. But you know, for a team that hasn't

1105
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 2: been able to get over the hump, it feels like

1106
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: at some point in time, whether that's trading a pick

1107
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: for a player, you know, a veteran, whether that's moving

1108
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: up in the draft, whether that's trying to you know,

1109
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: a mass a bunch of picks in a future draft.

1110
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: It just they've been kind of by the book, playing

1111
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: it by the book, and they haven't been able to

1112
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 2: get over the hump. So at some point in time,

1113
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: I would like to see a risk, whether that's in

1114
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: free agency, whether that's in trading for a player, whether

1115
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 2: that's trading up. Just it feels like they need to

1116
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: be a little bit more aggressive. And that's probably more so,

1117
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: you know, holistically on the calendar than specifically on the draft.

1118
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: But Philly is you know, Philly's got a couple of

1119
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 2: Super Bowls by being very very aggressive trading picks for players,

1120
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 2: going to you know, gettingn international player and develop them

1121
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 2: into a premier left tackle, you know, going out and

1122
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 2: getting Saquon Barkley when everybody says the running backs are

1123
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: not valued, like they've they've gone outside the box and

1124
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 2: been aggressive. And I feel like the Cowboys. At some

1125
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: point in time, you're going to have to swing. You know,

1126
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: you're going to have to take some swings.

1127
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 4: Next question comes from Will Birchfield.

1128
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 30: Hey, DJ, I wanted to ask about Derek Harmon, local

1129
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 30: kid here in Detroit. Is there any scenario by which

1130
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 30: he's available to the Lions at twenty eight and if so,

1131
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 30: or even if they're compelled to make a move for him,

1132
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 30: how do you think his play style potentially suits Theirs?

1133
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a I think there's a legit

1134
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 2: shot he's there. I think he could be in their range.

1135
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 2: I've looked at him as kind of like the floor

1136
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 2: for him. I've looked at the Lions at twenty eight.

1137
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: I've looked at the Bills at thirty. His potential, you know,

1138
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 2: last line there for him to fall that I wouldn't

1139
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 2: completely rule that out at this point in time. I

1140
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: think he fits. He's someone who can get up the field.

1141
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: He plays really, really hard. He's got good instincts. That's

1142
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 2: one thing the Lions have knocked out of the park.

1143
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: You look at all the guys they've added on both

1144
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 2: sides of the ball. They have majored and really instinctive, smart,

1145
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: aware players, and that's how Harmon plays so ultra ultra competitive,

1146
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 2: can get up the field, plays smart, you know, he

1147
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 2: flashes some bulrush power. I'd like to see a little

1148
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 2: bit more or that, you know, going forward, But this

1149
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: is a guy who's worked hard to change his body

1150
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: over the last year eighteen months and coming off a

1151
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 2: monster year. So yeah, I think you'd be abe an

1152
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: outstanding pick at that point in time.

1153
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 4: Next question comes from Alex Kusheti.

1154
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 31: Hey, DJ, I know you were on with Roussillo and

1155
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 31: Todd earlier this week and you were talking about how

1156
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 31: defensive ends they don't always pan out for a couple

1157
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 31: of years. It takes them a couple of years to

1158
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 31: get there. Obviously, the lines are in this win now

1159
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 31: mode with that twenty eighth pick. Is there anything that

1160
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 31: they can do that would either you know, grant them

1161
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 31: a starter or someone that could be very impactful that

1162
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 31: would end up helping them, you know, immensely at the

1163
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 31: end of the day.

1164
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's a good one. I don't look,

1165
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 2: there's so many intriguing options and good players there, but

1166
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 2: in terms of like the stamp of immediate you know,

1167
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 2: big time impact, it's hard to do that at that

1168
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 2: portion of the draft. In this draft, I think there's

1169
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: a lot of really intriguing options and good players, but

1170
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 2: like I can go through the list of guys who

1171
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: can conceivably be there, you know, James Pierce of all

1172
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: of them, would probably like he has that one dominant pitch,

1173
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 2: like with his speed, I think that would translate really quickly,

1174
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: So that would be maybe the one. If you're looking

1175
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: for year one impact, I would say Pierce probably have

1176
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 2: a chance to have the biggest year one impact. Donovan

1177
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: is Rak who I love as a player. He's got

1178
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 2: to work more and develop more of his power. Shamar

1179
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 2: Stewart's got all the twitch in the world, but he's

1180
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: got to get better at locate and find in the

1181
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 2: football and finishing plays. You know. Nick Gorton's kind of

1182
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: a wild card because almost like two different players. You know,

1183
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: he played at two eighty this year. He's two fifty

1184
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: seven now, which mirrors more what he was at Purdue

1185
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: in twenty three. But he's he he might not have

1186
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: the highest ceiling, but if you're looking, if I'm looking

1187
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 2: at your question, he would be another one who I think,

1188
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: come in you're going to get probably the best of

1189
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 2: Nick Gorton right as soon as he gets there, and

1190
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 2: someone who I don't think is going to be a

1191
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 2: you know, fifteen you know, thirteen fifteen sack guy eventually,

1192
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 2: but someone who I think could be a steady, you know,

1193
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 2: seven to ten sac performer who's going to be physical

1194
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: on set, the edge and kind of the rugged nature

1195
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 2: he plays with kind of matches there. So that could be,

1196
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 2: you know, that could be an option.

1197
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 4: Next question comes from Clifton Brown.

1198
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 32: Yeah, so you talked about harm and a couple of

1199
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 32: minutes ago. If he got to the Ravens at twenty seven,

1200
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 32: could you talk about what maybe he could do playing

1201
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 32: next to a guy like madd A Bka for the

1202
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 32: defensive line and also Starks is Benn guy mock at

1203
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 32: him a lot. If they don't take Starks or Harmon,

1204
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 32: just a couple of guys that they may take at

1205
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 32: twenty seven if it's not Starks or Harmon.

1206
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look, I think Starks would be their home

1207
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: run pick with kind of what they need and how

1208
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: he's used and how that would free up Hamilton. So

1209
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 2: you know, we start there, but yeah, I think when

1210
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 2: you look at the defensive tackle position, Harmon you know,

1211
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 2: they've they've always kind of had big guys in there.

1212
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: So he checks the box in terms of, you know,

1213
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 2: being three hundred and thirteen pounds and he's you know,

1214
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 2: over almost six five six four and a half. So

1215
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 2: he's a big guy who can get up the field.

1216
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 2: Matt at BK would be awesome person to him to

1217
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 2: learn from, just as a pass rusher, Matt at BK

1218
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: is so outstanding, that would be a cool thing to take.

1219
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 2: Take a guy like Harmon under your wing, who has

1220
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 2: some of the you know, has some great tools, but

1221
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: isn't quite as polished as a rusher as obviously what

1222
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 2: Matta BK has become. So that would be a good

1223
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 2: learning opportunity for him there. I like that that option.

1224
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: In terms of other players outside of that group, I

1225
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 2: look at Max Harriston from Kentucky is a corner. You

1226
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 2: know that you'd be back to back years you get

1227
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 2: corners who ran four two eight, they'd have the fastest

1228
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 2: pair of corners in the NFL. That would be the case.

1229
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: But you know, sec tested, he's he's fluid and fast,

1230
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 2: he makes plays in the ball. He was awesome in

1231
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: twenty three with five picks. If that was his year.

1232
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 2: This year, he's going to be a top fifteen pick,

1233
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: So that could be a one of those kind of

1234
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 2: raven value finds if they decide to go in that

1235
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 2: direction and just upgrade that secondary. They've got to get

1236
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 2: better on defense and they've got to get better in

1237
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 2: the secondary. So you know, if you give me the

1238
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 2: two names you gave me, if Harmon was there and

1239
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: Starks were there, I would think they would end up

1240
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: going Starks just to try and clean up some stuff

1241
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: on the back end.

1242
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 4: Next question comes from Anthony Cosenza.

1243
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 24: Some things from a Bengals perspective. Number one, Jihad Campbell,

1244
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 24: where you kind of see him going given some of

1245
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 24: the stuff going on and potential fit with the Bengals

1246
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 24: there and then maybe some day two safeties that you

1247
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 24: think would be good fits for the Bengals as they

1248
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 24: try and rebuild that defense.

1249
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's to me, it's all defensive draft. I mean,

1250
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 2: you have to go on that side of the ball, heavy, heavy, heavy,

1251
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 2: and you know, I'd be shocked if they don't do that.

1252
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 2: Jahad Campbell, I love, I know he's been a little

1253
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 2: he's really physically beat up, you know, coming into the process.

1254
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 2: So you got to have your medical group be comfortable

1255
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: there that he's gonna be fine and and once we

1256
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: get to the season. But to me, he's a he's

1257
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: he's dynamic, he's versatile off the ball, on the ball,

1258
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: big time speed, he uh, you know, for a team

1259
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: that's going to be playing against Baltimore and trying to

1260
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 2: climb that mountain every year, I think he matches up

1261
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 2: well with them. When you think about somebody who could

1262
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 2: you know it can come downhill and and and uh

1263
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: and get Derrick Henry on the ground. You could spy

1264
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 2: him against Lamar and he can. He can close down

1265
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: and and and kind of suck him up on the

1266
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 2: perimeter and then if you want to, you can let

1267
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 2: him rush off the edge so he can do a

1268
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: lot of different things. I think he would be a

1269
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 2: heck of a pick there if he were to get

1270
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: to pick number seventeen. In terms of safeties. On day two,

1271
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 2: you know a couple of interesting guys that Kevin Winston

1272
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 2: from Penn State. I like, you know, I think there's

1273
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 2: value because he missed time with only playing two games

1274
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 2: this year, but you get a nice package of heightweight, speed,

1275
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: He's aggressive, he's good versus the run. You know, you

1276
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,439
Speaker 2: go back to the twenty three tape. I think there's

1277
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 2: a lot to like about him, So that would be

1278
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: one one of my personal favorites is I have him

1279
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: kind of in that third round range. Maybe teams, you know,

1280
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 2: maybe more soaring that four or five range. But I'm

1281
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: a Craig Woodson guy from cal So. I love him.

1282
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 2: I think he's a Day one starter. He's you know,

1283
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 2: six foot two hundred pounds, ran four four five. He's smart,

1284
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: he's a great leader. He's a little bit older, He's

1285
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 2: played a ton of football though, smooth mover, he's an

1286
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 2: excellent tackler, and he gets his hands on the football.

1287
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: So and Col's also been a sneaky safety factory. So

1288
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 2: that's one that I kind of like down a little

1289
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 2: bit below that tier. And then Macouba from Texas is

1290
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: another good one who takes the ball away. Not the

1291
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: biggest guy in the world, but really really good ball

1292
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 2: skills and takes it away.

1293
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 4: Next question comes from Casey Kinneman.

1294
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 16: Hey, DJ, and it does like all the momentums pointing

1295
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 16: towards the Brown selecting Travis Hunter with the second overall selection,

1296
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 16: would do you believe the Browns plan for Hunter should

1297
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 16: be to maximize his skill set and the impact he's

1298
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 16: going to be able to make as a rookie.

1299
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 2: I would start offense. Know, I'm kind of saying that

1300
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 2: through this process it's different. You know, first of all,

1301
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: we never we haven't seen something like this. You know,

1302
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 2: who's someone who wants to do everything on both sides.

1303
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 2: I don't think I would do that initially. I think

1304
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 2: you have to major and minor and you know, historically,

1305
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 2: if you have a player that has value there, he's

1306
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 2: been a full time defensive player with a package of

1307
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 2: plays on offense. That's just been the you know, boy,

1308
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 2: it's always been. We haven't really seen it the other

1309
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 2: way around, with the exception of maybe Troy Brown on

1310
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 2: a couple snaps for the Patriots. But to me, I

1311
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 2: think he's more valuable to your team on offense right now.

1312
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 2: I think he's further developed on offense. I think he

1313
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 2: touches the ball more, he just makes more of an impact.

1314
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 2: So I'm going to have him as a full time

1315
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 2: starter at receiver and and we'll start there for a while,

1316
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 2: and then we can start maybe incorporating him into some

1317
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 2: defensive you know packages, if that's your you know, your

1318
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 2: your dime, your nickel, whatever. But giving him, you know, uh,

1319
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: an opportunity to get on the on the field, make

1320
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: some plays on some third downs defensively, uh. And maybe

1321
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 2: that grows and evolves into more than that over time,

1322
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 2: but that's where I would start with it. And I

1323
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: think you you can get really excited if you're a

1324
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 2: Browns fan and you start thinking about, you know what

1325
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 2: Jerry Judy did last year, and now we get a

1326
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: chance to throw Travis Hunter out there on offense as

1327
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 2: a as a really really talented, explosive player who's uh,

1328
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 2: you know, who's outstanding with the ball in his hands.

1329
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 2: That would be that would make the Browns really really

1330
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 2: fun to watch, I can tell you that.

1331
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 4: Next question comes from Joe Clark.

1332
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 33: Hey, DJ, thanks for doing this Pittsburgh at twenty one.

1333
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 33: Obviously it could be a landing spot for a quarterback,

1334
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 33: have a big need along the defensive line. So how

1335
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 33: would you kind of evaluate taking a swing on a

1336
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 33: quarterback if a men passing on someone like Derek Harmon

1337
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 33: or Kenneth Grant, if they were still on the board.

1338
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 2: It's just going to come down to, you know, how

1339
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 2: comfortable they are did they have you know, is there

1340
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 2: kind of some PTSD from you know, going the Kenny

1341
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 2: Pickett route in this range of the draft and it

1342
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 2: not working out. I would just say, if you have

1343
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: conviction on one of those quarterbacks, if Shooter Sanders got

1344
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 2: down there, if you know, if you have a lot

1345
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 2: of love in the building for Jackson Dart, you know,

1346
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 2: whatever it is. If you have conviction, then take the quarterback.

1347
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 2: If it's at all close, you have a screaming need

1348
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 2: there long term. So if you have similar grades, you

1349
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 2: would definitely the tie would go to the quarterback if

1350
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 2: you you know, have some conviction. So that's something I

1351
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know how those guys are viewed

1352
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 2: within that building, and I don't know how much trauma

1353
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: is left from the Kenny Pickett, you know mistake. So

1354
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 2: that's that's the quarterback side of it. I do think

1355
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 2: when you look at those defensive tackles, Kenneth Grant, you know,

1356
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 2: they've they've been in that division. Mike Tomlins been in

1357
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 2: that division. He's he's looked at, he's had a Casey Hampton,

1358
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 2: a big powerful guy. Obviously, Cam Hayward, you know, big powerful,

1359
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 2: you know, athletic guy. You look, you know at Helodi Nada,

1360
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 2: who he saw for years and years. It's hard to

1361
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 2: find guys like that, you know. So Kenneth Grant to

1362
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: me kind of matches that division and uh and could

1363
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 2: make you know, some good sense for them there. I

1364
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 2: like Harmon is a good player as well, So you

1365
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 2: know that's gonna that decision by Pittsburgh has got to

1366
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 2: come down to like her love. If you like the quarterbacks, don't,

1367
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: don't do it there. If you love them, you have

1368
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 2: to do it there. So that's going to come down

1369
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 2: to their evaluation of those guys.

1370
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 4: Next question comes from Adam West.

1371
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 2: Hey, DJ, thanks for doing this.

1372
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 34: As always, our our friend Greg asked me to ask

1373
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 34: if I had a question for you further for your

1374
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 34: guys as a quick fire around.

1375
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 2: To want I wanted. I wanted to wait for it.

1376
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 34: The Saints at nine feels like has now become one

1377
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 34: of the most interesting teams in the draft, and from

1378
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 34: what I've heard, they really are kind of similar to

1379
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 34: the question you just answered, are struggling with going bp

1380
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 34: A at nine and kind of you know, maybe taking

1381
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 34: sure Duris Andrews, who they don't have a first round

1382
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 34: grade on but.

1383
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 4: The need is there.

1384
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 34: Uh, you've been in these these draft rooms. Can you

1385
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 34: maybe do like a little semi role play of like

1386
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 34: what both sides of that argument looks like, of like

1387
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 34: the people in the building that are arguing for BPA

1388
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 34: and the people in the building that may be arguing,

1389
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 34: you know, to go the quarterback route.

1390
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, the here's the conversation. It's pretty simple. It's on

1391
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 2: the pro side of taking the quarterback there, it's okay,

1392
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 2: we might not have huge grades on the quarterback, but

1393
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 2: he's better than anyone else we have on our roster

1394
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 2: at that position. He upgrades us. We have time, We're

1395
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 2: in a new regime here, We've got time to let

1396
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:33,439
Speaker 2: this quarterback. You know, if we think he can grow

1397
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: and develop and continue to get better, we can grow

1398
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 2: with him. So you know, that's the argument for taking one.

1399
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 2: The other side of it is, well, what are we

1400
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 2: going to do if we don't If we don't have

1401
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 2: big grades on him, then we're going to be in

1402
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 2: this exact same situation three years from now when we

1403
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 2: come to the realization that you know, he is who

1404
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 2: we thought he was. If we don't have him graded

1405
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 2: highly and we're looking to replace him. We're in year

1406
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 2: one again, they're the same scenario, different logic. We're in

1407
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 2: year one. We don't have to do this right now.

1408
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 2: Let's get a sure thing. It's our first pick with

1409
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 2: this new setup here with Kellen Moore. Let's get a

1410
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 2: Let's get a player that's going to help us and

1411
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 2: plug and play. We have big grades on there's consensus

1412
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 2: on them, and and we can take a flyer on

1413
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 2: one of these quarterbacks you know, later on in the

1414
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 2: draft and take someone who you know, we like to

1415
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 2: work with and can be developmental, while also leaving open

1416
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 2: the option that we could go that route next year

1417
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 2: when we might like a quarterback better. So those are

1418
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 2: the Those are the types of conversations that take place

1419
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 2: in that room. And usually it's usually coaches, you know,

1420
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 2: they want someone who can come in and help us

1421
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 2: right now. Personnel is thinking a little bit more long term.

1422
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 2: So I think that's where the where the battle comes.

1423
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 4: We'll go back to Cody and green Bay, DJ.

1424
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 6: Green Bay.

1425
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 35: What would surprise you if that they would do it

1426
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 35: twenty three? I guess you know, obviously a lot of

1427
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 35: fans are gonna be there, you know, wanted to see

1428
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 35: a pick whatever. But what would you if they what

1429
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 35: would something that they could do that would be like, wow,

1430
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 35: that would that would throw you for a loop?

1431
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 2: Well, if they took a receiver in the first round,

1432
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure as heck throw us for a loop, right

1433
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 2: because there has been asking that for so long. They've

1434
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 2: amassed a really good receiver room, but they've they've yet

1435
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 2: to really attack it there, so that that would be

1436
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 2: one I think that would that would probably floor us

1437
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,439
Speaker 2: on the set and floor and floor the audience there

1438
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 2: for the crowd there, So that would be that would

1439
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 2: be definitely ironic if after all these years, we wait

1440
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 2: till the drafts in Green Bay, uh and they went

1441
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 2: ahead and took a receiver in the first round, would

1442
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 2: be pretty epic.

1443
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 35: If I can ask who you think if I might

1444
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 35: have missed it, but who do you think they might

1445
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 35: just a rough, rough idea on your end.

1446
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, in terms of what they will do, I mean,

1447
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 2: I don't think they will do the go to the

1448
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 2: wide receiver route. If I'm I'm looking at options for them,

1449
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 2: and I think you can always look on the defensive

1450
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 2: side of the ball for corners. Max Harston makes a

1451
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 2: lot of sense to me in that spot you can

1452
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 2: look at, you know, edge rushers, they just usually you

1453
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: just look for the most athletic and flosive SEC edge

1454
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 2: rusher or SEC defensive front seven Blair and that's one

1455
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 2: that that's one that's going to peak their interest a

1456
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 2: little bit. So Shamar Stewart doesn't have the production, but man,

1457
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 2: he's he would match all the explosive pieces that they've

1458
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 2: collected there over the last few years.

1459
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 4: Next question comes from Devin Jackson. Devin, you may ask

1460
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 4: your question.

1461
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 36: Hey, Daniel, thanks for doing this as always, you know,

1462
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 36: for for the Eagles at thirty two. You know, would

1463
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 36: you think they'd be interested in taking a guy like

1464
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 36: Malachi Starts to replace C. J. Gardner Johnson who's traded

1465
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 36: to the Texans this offseason.

1466
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 2: I think he would be a great fit. You know,

1467
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 2: obviously they left shopping at that store, and you know,

1468
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 2: he's a really, really good player who I think there's

1469
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 2: better ahead of him. You know, I don't think he

1470
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 2: made as many plays this year as he did previously,

1471
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 2: but he gives you someone who in a pinch can play,

1472
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 2: you know, play your nickel. I think he could survive

1473
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 2: out side at corner if he had to get out

1474
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 2: of a game, and I think he could be an

1475
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 2: outstanding you know, free safety, play over the top, roman

1476
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 2: make plays. He's young, he's really really well liked in

1477
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 2: that building in terms of the leadership, character and tangible

1478
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 2: side of things. So yeah, that's uh. I think that

1479
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 2: would be from a value standpoint and a fit standpoint,

1480
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 2: would be great. It's just that, you know, I think

1481
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 2: the the Eagles, given their druthers, would rather you know,

1482
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 2: they always like to start big. So to me, if

1483
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 2: it's if it's closely graded and there's an opportunity for

1484
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 2: them to get somebody on the line of scrimmage, I

1485
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 2: would think they would lean in that direction. But uh,

1486
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 2: you know, if they get if they got wiped out

1487
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 2: and cleaned up on the offense and defensive line, man,

1488
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 2: he'd be a great fit.

1489
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 4: Next question comes from Jonathan Alexander. Jonathan, you may ask

1490
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 4: your question.

1491
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 37: I think earlier this week that you mentioned that for

1492
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 37: the Texans it would be Banks or Booker. I'm curious,

1493
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 37: what do you think the chances are both are on

1494
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 37: the board at twenty five or one, and what do

1495
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 37: you think about the choice. To explain it to.

1496
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they're both on the board. I

1497
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 2: think that decision would be made for him, and it

1498
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 2: might be a situation where they're both off the board

1499
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 2: at that point in time, and I would think a

1500
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 2: guy like Donovan Jackson could enter into their mix as

1501
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 2: a possibility there for one of those selections. It just

1502
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 2: feels like offensive line and those are the two names

1503
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 2: that i'd heard connected to them that they really really liked.

1504
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 2: So in terms of how I would I would stack

1505
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 2: it up. You know, the one guy in this draft class,

1506
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 2: it's there's usually a guy like this every year where

1507
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 2: he kind of starts off and arrange on my you know,

1508
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 2: my initial list, and then it feels like other guys

1509
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 2: are kind of moving up and moving around, and then

1510
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 2: without any any rationale for it, he's kind of banks

1511
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 2: for me, has kind of slipped down. But it felt

1512
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 2: more like and I was looking at it the other day,

1513
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, I need to go back and revisit my

1514
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 2: original list and see who's moved and then see, okay,

1515
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 2: why why did I have him go up or down?

1516
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 2: And he's one that felt more like other guys I

1517
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,799
Speaker 2: had just moved up more so than he did anything

1518
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 2: to disqualify himself and move down. So when I do

1519
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 2: my final update, I'll move Banks back up a little

1520
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 2: bit closer to where I had him originally, which I

1521
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 2: think he was like my nineteenth player at that point

1522
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 2: in time. So he's he's he's a solid player. I

1523
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 2: just wish he's strained to finish a little bit more.

1524
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 2: Booker to me, is a is a little more physical,

1525
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 2: has a little more edge to him, you know, obviously

1526
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 2: talking tackle versus guard at pure grade wise, I had

1527
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 2: Booker over him. But you know, I don't know that

1528
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 2: there's a wrong answer there. I think they're both immediate upgrades.

1529
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 4: Our final question comes from Dennis Cox.

1530
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,839
Speaker 21: Seeing Jaylen Walker a lot of connections with the Carolina

1531
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 21: Panthers at number eight, Why is he a good fit

1532
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:39,799
Speaker 21: in Carolina?

1533
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 2: And if Jalen Walker's not the pick, who are.

1534
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:42,440
Speaker 4: Some other options?

1535
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? First of all, they're a team that I did

1536
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 2: a lot of people around the league expect it's going

1537
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 2: to try and get out. There's a there's a decent

1538
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 2: number of needs still left on that roster, and you know,

1539
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 2: can't they parlay New Orleans you know, need for a

1540
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: quarterback into scaring somebody to come up in front of

1541
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 2: New Orleans. I don't know if they can pull that off,

1542
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 2: but at least there's people around the league that think

1543
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 2: they're going to effort to do that in Carolina, So

1544
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 2: something interesting just to keep an eye on there with them.

1545
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 2: But to me, Walker, when you go into a defense

1546
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 2: that's dead last and points, you know, yards rushing yards

1547
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 2: per game tied for twenty ninth, and sacks thirty second

1548
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 2: pressure rate, he helps all those areas. He is an

1549
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 2: impactful player, You can move him around. He just would

1550
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 2: add a really explosive element to their defense. I would

1551
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 2: love to see how they could play him off of

1552
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 2: Derek Brown and being able to, you know, let him

1553
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 2: kind of shoot some gaps they're going to be vacated

1554
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 2: with all the attention that Derek Brown's gonna require. So

1555
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 2: I think he'd be a fun fit there. Plus just

1556
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 2: from like a leadership standpoint, a culture builder, he checks

1557
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 2: those boxes as well, So that's why I love his

1558
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 2: fit there. If he's off the board or they decided

1559
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 2: to go in a different direction, you know, I think

1560
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 2: you're just trying to find impactful guys on the defensive

1561
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 2: side of the ball, and that's why I'm just looking

1562
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 2: at uh edge rushers, defensive tackles. You can look at corners,

1563
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 2: you know, how do they feel about you know, the

1564
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: corners in this draft. Amaja da Baron Guy. I love

1565
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 2: him and I think he would be a nice athletic

1566
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 2: explosive piece as well. So get faster on defense, get

1567
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 2: more dynamic. They need they need help everywhere. So that

1568
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 2: to me is is where I would look