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By yours at Walmart today. 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wikay f Daily with 11 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, Recording from the Bunker. So, folks, 12 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: it is apparent right if you were watching the news, 13 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: if you are just stepping outside of your front door, 14 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: that America Europe is in a climate crisis. What is 15 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: making me so absolutely fucking livid is that the casual 16 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: nature with which broadcasters anchors discuss the heat is if 17 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: it's something that is, oh, just go grab a popsicle 18 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: and like, oh, dip in a pool and everything will 19 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: be great. The fact that no one outside of climate 20 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: scientists who have been ringing the alarm bell on how 21 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: ten fifteen twenty thirty years ago, we could prevent what 22 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: we are experiencing right now is so like just rage 23 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: inducing you have right now, the temperatures that we are 24 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: seeing in Europe are thirty degrees above their norm. Yesterday 25 00:01:53,600 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: the UK had its hottest day ever, like since you know, 26 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: it's inception, since the sixteen hundreds. This is not something 27 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: to just shrug off and say, oh, everything goes up 28 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: and it comes down. It's not. And the reality is 29 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: is at already hundreds of people have died across Europe 30 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: because of the heat condition they're building infrastructure, the way 31 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: that the UK and Europe are set up with the 32 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: fact that I think they said in the UK five 33 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: percent of households have air conditioning. Why because on average 34 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: this time of year for their entire existence, since they've 35 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: been recording, temperatures has been in the seventies. So it's 36 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: in the seventies and that's normal. And the way that 37 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: you build buildings like then you're comfortable. Right you are 38 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: talking now in some places hitting well above a hundred degrees, 39 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: young people, older people being at risk for heat stroke. Now, 40 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: I want to take that over back to the United 41 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: States where we are where yesterday a majority of the country, 42 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: a majority of the country, we're seeing temperatures well above 43 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: ninety degrees and in certain areas well above one hundred degrees. Again, 44 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: I want us to think about our produce, livestock, the 45 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: workers that work on these farms and in these fields 46 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: in order to bring to your local grocery store the 47 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: things that you need to sayciate yourself and your family. 48 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: We are already seeing because of inflation, the fact that 49 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: when you go to the grocery store these days, your 50 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: dollar does not go as far as it used to. 51 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: That package of chicken thighs or that you know, bundle 52 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: of broccoli is now eighteen to twenty percent higher than 53 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: it was last year. Right, So now I want us 54 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: to add on top of that the inability to have 55 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: enough water to feed the livestock, to water the produce, 56 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: to be able to continue on with our same weight 57 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: of production. As it comes to food. And now think 58 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: about climate change and the fact that things are going 59 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: to get much much more expensive, and it isn't going 60 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: to be because of inflation. It is going to be 61 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: because of the climate change impact is having on our 62 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: food production, and not just in this country, but around 63 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: the world. Because when you're going to your grocery store 64 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: and you're able to get avocados all fucking year around, 65 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: or we're able to get tomatoes all year around, or 66 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: you're able to get you know, this grocery store has 67 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: cheaper meat than this one, that is no longer going 68 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: to be the case. And again, we have continued to 69 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: talk about climate change or argue about the reality of 70 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,239 Speaker 1: climate change, and we've allowed Republicans and people like Joe 71 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: fucking Cole Mansion to to co op the conversation so 72 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: that they can continue being funded from big oil and 73 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: big coal. And the reality is they're fucking killing us. 74 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: The ignorance is actually killing us, because there are actions 75 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 1: that can be taken. And the Supreme Court just fucking 76 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: decided right before this heat wave began that the EPA 77 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: has no authority whatsoever to be able to set regulations 78 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: for CO two emissions. So the Supreme Court has taken 79 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: away the Environmental Protection Agency's ability to actually regulate the 80 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 1: pollution that is going into our air, has cut off 81 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: the federal government at the knees in so many different ways, 82 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: all for what we're all going to breathe the same 83 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: fucking polluted air. We're all going to be scounging around 84 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: in the grocery store for that last little bit of 85 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: lettuce or that last little bit of whatever. I mean. 86 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: The fact that folks, in my conversation with Jonathan that 87 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: we have today is with regard to a new report 88 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: that has come out that are saying that the life 89 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: expectancy of people that are living in Trump Country in 90 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: Red States is down five to seven years. We are 91 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: a developed fucking nation. By the way, I will ask Jonathan, 92 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: and you will hear me say, when was there another 93 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: time that life expectancy in the United States backslid? And 94 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: he said World War One? When I tell you that 95 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: we are in such compounded crises, this is what the 96 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: fuck I am talking about. Not only are we dealing 97 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: with COVID now, climate change is at an all time high. 98 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: The other day I realized, as I'm, you know, in 99 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: hanging out over the weekend, that it hasn't rained considerably 100 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: here in New York. We're in a drought. Grass is brown, 101 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: you know, and you can water as much as you want, 102 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: but eventually there's also going to be your water shortage. 103 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: You're getting text alerts from your energy company telling you 104 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: that Hey, there's a lot going on on our grid 105 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: right now, and you may experience blackout and brownouts. Is 106 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: this Bangladesh? Like, what the fuck is going on? And 107 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: why have we allowed ourselves to just accept right that 108 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: in every area, by every metric, the United States is 109 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: backsliding from our democracy to our life expectancy and so 110 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: on and so forth. And yet you have these anchors 111 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: and these newscasters and these politicians talking about ship as 112 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: if it's just par for the course. This is a 113 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: fucking crisis. This is a five alarm fire. Why the 114 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: fuck is no one talking about it like it is? 115 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: Because the next thing to come is our water being 116 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: dried up, or corporations deciding to take over more of 117 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: the natural wells, more of the natural springs, and then 118 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: guess what capitalism comes into play, and then it will 119 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: be let the drink water and everybody else is left 120 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: boiling and distilling, where the rest of the country looks 121 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: like Flint, Michigan, which by the way, still doesn't have 122 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: fucking clean water. We are living in really outrageous, dangerous 123 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: and terrifying times. And I wish that each week I 124 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: could bring you some bit of solace, But I got 125 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: to tell you that by the day, by the hour, 126 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: I become increasingly worried about what is happening in this 127 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: country and the fact that you have people like Jonathan 128 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: and others that have been ringing the alarm about what's 129 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: going on, and it's falling on non listening ears. And 130 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm wondering now that people are experiencing this oppressive heat, 131 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: that people are knowing that people are going to die, 132 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: that it is difficult to be able to fill your 133 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: gas tank, go to the grocery store, and put medicine 134 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: in your medicine chest. All at the same time, this 135 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: is becoming like the fucking hunger Games in the United States. 136 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: And that's just around the climate change compacting our economy 137 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: and our ability to put food on the table. You 138 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: add in all of the rights that are being stripped 139 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: away and everybody having a fucking gun, Like, I don't 140 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: understand where we think that investment into the United States 141 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: or attractiveness is going to stay when people start realizing 142 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: that this is a fucking dangerous place to live and 143 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: travel to, and then that starts to tank, right, Like, 144 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: what is the fucking endgame here that Republicans and quote 145 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: unquote moderate Democrats who are literally gambling with our lives, 146 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: are hoping to get at the end because you can't. 147 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: Unlike what fucking that idiot herschel Walker said, you know, 148 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: you can't maintain a certain pocket of good air and 149 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: clean water. That's not how fucking science works. Coming up next, 150 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: my conversation with our friend doctor Jonathan Metzel about a 151 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: really eye opening report that has come out to talk 152 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: about life expectancy and what kind of messaging we need 153 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: around that. Indisputable with Doctor Rashid Ricci is one of 154 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: the latest shows on the TYT Network and also the 155 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: fastest growing news show in America. 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We do not 172 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: always agree, We definitely do not always agree, but we 173 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: always deliver thoughtful debate and we always have a good time. 174 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: So subscribe to Slate's Political Gapfest, new episodes every Thursday, folks. 175 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: So you know that whenever we have the opportunity to 176 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: chat with our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel about 177 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: all the ways in which this country is choosing, legitimately 178 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: every single day to die of whiteness, it is a 179 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: good time to get a perspective that we all clearly 180 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: need because the choices that are being made by the 181 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: MAGA class, by racist white America is now actually affecting 182 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: every single one of us. But interestingly enough, Jonathan, according 183 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: to a new study, you say that it is affecting 184 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: their life expectancy in Red states has lowered? Is that? What? So, 185 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: please tell us about this report and what is the latest. Well, 186 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: there was a great article in Scientific American that's making 187 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: the rounds on Twitter now, which even though they didn't 188 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: cite me, which is cool, it basically was dying of 189 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: whiteness brought up to date, right, And so what they 190 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: found was that people in red states and in Trump 191 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: supporting counties in particular, we're dying about four to seven 192 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: years sooner than people in democratic states or liberal enclaves 193 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: or but mostly it was a kind of red state 194 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: blue state kind of comparison. And what they found was 195 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: the data was absolutely I mean, of course it made 196 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: sense for COVID because there were a lot of areas 197 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: where people weren't getting vaccinated and there was no mask 198 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: and no public health and that kind of stuff. But 199 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: COVID was just the tip of the iceberg that deaths 200 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: from secondhand smoke, gun violence, gun suicide, lack of access 201 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: to healthcare, all these things were leading to dramatic life 202 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: expectancy differences between red states and blue states. And you know, 203 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: every time something like this happens and it's in scientific 204 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: American and I urge people to read it. It's it's 205 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: not one study, it's a culmination of, you know, a 206 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: bunch of research of a bunch of different people. People 207 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: will reach out to me and be like, you're right 208 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: with dying of whiteness. And in a way, part of 209 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: the point, right is that when you I mean, this 210 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: is not rocket science. When you invest in public health infrastructure, 211 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: it prolongs people's lifespans. And the data in this scientific 212 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: American art is just incredible. Right. It's like eight you 213 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: live to seventy seven in Red states versus eighty five 214 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: in Blue states. It's not inconsequential. It's a real data finding. 215 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: But of course, the tragic irony of all this for 216 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: me is if we were on a different planet, like 217 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: planet empathy or Planet reason or planet common sense, you 218 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: would say, oh, man, some of these states are having 219 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: better health outcomes. What can we do to bring that 220 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: to everybody? You know? But instead we're seeing the opposite, 221 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: which is let's take the shit outcomes and let's nationalize those. 222 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: And so all the things from easy access to guns 223 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: leading to more guns, suicide leading to shorter life expectancy, 224 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: to not investing in medicaid expansion leading to poor life expectancy. 225 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: Those policies are now threatening to become nationalized. I mean, 226 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: the whole idea that public health should create a health 227 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: blanket over our country is following by the wayside because 228 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: of the Supreme Court and because of the politics that 229 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: the dominator right now. So it's just another example. It's 230 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: just interesting when you write a book called Dying of 231 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: Witness that well, basically, to be honest, kind of predicted 232 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: this point about you know, but I want to I 233 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: do want to understand something because just to kind of 234 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: put things into perspective, is if you're talking about a 235 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: decrease in life expectancy of five to seventy years, when 236 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: was the last time something like like that level of 237 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: a shift has happened in this country? Like that is 238 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: that's not Yeah, that's not an instant. It's not an instact. 239 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: Like I don't want people to think like, oh, that 240 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: is kind of like the natural progressions progression of things 241 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: like that's not a normal life expect that's not a 242 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: normal chart to see in a developed country that has 243 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: access to modern medicine, vaccines and all of these things. 244 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: And what you're saying is that this isn't just largely 245 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: about COVID and those the politics of those states in 246 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: their reaction to COVID. This is going across the board 247 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: in terms of health outcomes. And so, you know, let 248 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: me say one thing about that. Let me say one 249 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: thing about that, which is just to reinforce that you're 250 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: absolutely right that we haven't seen a particularly a life 251 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: expectancy drop in in the demographic majority group since World 252 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: War One, right, And the reason that was, first of all, 253 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: of course people were going to war and dying, but 254 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: also world War One people went off to Europe and 255 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: then caught influenza and then brought it back here and 256 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: there was no treatment for it. And so it's really 257 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: been since the nineteen late nineteen teens that we've seen 258 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: something like this. And then of course we had the 259 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: advent of modern medicine. Modern medicine helped us even during 260 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: World War Two when people were still going off to war, 261 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: so we didn't see a drop like this even when 262 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people were going off to World War two. 263 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: And so really we're talking about a return to a 264 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: kind of I don't know, biological brutality that we really 265 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: thought we'd kind of gotten past because of modern treatments. 266 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: So the thing that what I want to follow up 267 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: with Jonathan is then, I mean, what is the messaging 268 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 1: around this, Right? You have these red state governors to 269 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: your point, that's you know, the whole point of the 270 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: Republican parties to nationalize brutality, oppression, and harm. Right to 271 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: do as much harm as possible to as many people 272 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: as possible. And when I think about, right, the connectivity 273 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: between your ability to live a long, prosperous, healthy life 274 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: and what happens when people get sicker, the how the 275 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: power structure plays into all of that. How you are downtrodden. 276 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: You can't put food on your table, you can't pay 277 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: your medical bills, you can't do all of these things. 278 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: It is a recipe for authoritarianism, And like can you 279 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: talk about that, like how the how America and these 280 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: states in particular are primed for what we know is coming. Well, 281 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: I guess the question is really like how much do 282 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: we want to And I'm going to be literal and 283 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: graphic die on the hill of public health, right, because 284 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: for us, public health is an aspirational state. Right, public 285 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: health is what we want to live better and healthier lives. 286 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: Modern lives. But I will tell you that I feel 287 00:18:55,119 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: like in the hands of another ideology. I'm choosing my 288 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: words very carefully. Here. Public health is a bioweapon. The 289 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: absence of right health right and so bad healthcare is 290 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: already the case in a place like Florida or Mississippi 291 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: or Alabama. Crappy gun laws are already the case there. 292 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: But if you inflict that on New York, the whole 293 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: system collapses, right, because so many people depend on writing 294 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: the subway to work and going to Times Square and 295 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: going to Central Park, and tons of guns in those 296 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: areas is just going to collapse the savic infrastructure. And 297 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: so many people in New York get their health insurance 298 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: from the expanded Medicaid that we have in New York City. 299 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: And if the state itself, I mean a single state, 300 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: cannot afford medicaid expansion. We know that from many other examples, 301 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: including in Tennessee with the failure of ten Care, and 302 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: so in a way, taking these policies that have created 303 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: shorter life expectancy, and our goal always was like, oh, 304 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: let's prolong life expectancy in the South. Let's have everybody 305 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: enjoy the fruits of better healthcare and stuff like that. 306 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: But the reverse of that is if the South can 307 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: inflict its shit policies on the North, then the North 308 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: collapses in a way. This is a war of Southern aggression, 309 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: is what we're kind of feeling right now. And it's 310 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: being fought on the battle of health, on the terrain 311 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: of health policy. Why don't you think that this is 312 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: being message in the way that it needs to because 313 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: this is alarming, right, Like this should set off alarm bells, 314 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, across the country, regardless of whether or not 315 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: you live in a red state or a blue state. 316 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: And so is what is not happening with regard to 317 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: the messaging about how devastating this type of so backsliding 318 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: is happening. Not only are we not only are we 319 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: for the first time as our democracy having been noted 320 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 1: as backslide, but now our life expectancy is backsliding. And 321 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: these two things are not mutually exclusive, And so how 322 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: should this be messaged? Well, if you think about life, 323 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: expectancy is not always a goal in the context of 324 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: theaters of power. And so I'm going to give you 325 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: so our grapes in a minute here, But first I'll 326 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: just say that you can think about murtyrs, for example, 327 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: or mercenaries or like people. There's a lot of different 328 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: examples you can give if people willing to trade their 329 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: health or their well being for power or money or 330 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: authority foot and so in a way, bad health policy 331 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 1: is a weapon, right that is going to destabilize the Libs, 332 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: you know, in a way. And so I think that 333 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: that's kind of what we're up against, and I think 334 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: people probably don't don't see it that way. And I'll 335 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: tell you this our Grapes part is I mean that 336 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: wasn't this our Grapes part Jonathan Grapes part as personal right? 337 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: Because after dying a Whiteness came out the book I 338 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: was going to write afterwards called the War of Southern Aggression, 339 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: and it was about this exact point that actually bad 340 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: health policy was being used as a weapon to destabilize 341 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: the North. And um, but I don't, like I need 342 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 1: you to to to because I honestly like I need 343 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: this to make more sense, and I know that it 344 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: is something that is not going to make sense. We 345 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: are one country. So to say that the goal that 346 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: their goal, which I believe you is the destabilization of 347 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: the North, that destabilization is a ripple effects tsunami that 348 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: happens across the country. Who is that good for? Like, 349 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm confused. It's not as if you're saying we're destabilizing 350 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: in the North as a way to reinforce stability in 351 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: the south. That's not the case. So who is it 352 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: good for? Okay, So let me give you an example 353 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: from the book I'm writing now, which is about guns 354 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: and gun policy, because you know, your question is basically 355 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: who benefits from this? And so part of the story, 356 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: right is think about what the Supreme Court just did. 357 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: The Supreme Court just overturned New York's gun laws and 358 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: said New York has no right to or any anybody 359 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: who has a gun law that says we're going to 360 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: regulate who can carry a gun in public, that states 361 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: don't have the right to do that. Now we know 362 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: from very detailed metrics what happens when you overturn permit laws, 363 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: because we have examples of for example, Kansas City, Missouri, 364 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: my hometown that used to be a very integrated, diverse 365 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: downtown area. Lots of people live downtown. I live downtown 366 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: during med school, and the idea was basically, here's all 367 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: this cool integration that's going to be happening. And the 368 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: minute they overturned Missouri's permit laws and basically the state 369 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: couldn't regulate who who carried a gun. Anybody could buy 370 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: a gun and anybody had the right to carry it. 371 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: It led to dramatic increases in all kinds of I mean, 372 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: in my book, I talked about gun suicide, but also 373 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: led to increases in different kinds of violent crime, for example. 374 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: And so what that led to was dramatic white flight 375 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: from the downtown area. For example. Sly James, who was 376 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: the mayor of Kansas City, pleaded to have some kind 377 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: of gun regulations or things like that because so many 378 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: people were dying or shooting or all these kind of things. 379 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: And so it led to a dramatic kind of racial 380 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: divide in Kansas City. That honestly, I mean, Kansas City 381 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: has always had a hard time with that issue, but 382 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't it wasn't the case the way it is now. 383 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: It led to segregation in a way, It led to 384 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: more economic inequality, and it led to an effect kind 385 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: of gated communities in a way. Atlanta as another example, 386 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: when Georgia overturned its gun laws. There was a people 387 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: couldn't believe it when you could actually carry a gun 388 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: to the to the Atlanta airport, which was huge news 389 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: about ten years ago. And what happened is the same thing. 390 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: Concentrated low income areas that became less safe for a 391 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: variety of reasons, police gunfire, and it led to massive disinvestment. 392 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: And literally there are parts of Atlanta now where white 393 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: wealthy communities have created gated communities with their own private 394 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: police forces. They're not even using the Atlanta police anymore. 395 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: And so in a way this leads to economic inequality 396 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: and segregation. But places like New York, for all its problems, 397 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: or Los Angeles or Boston or DC, even though of 398 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: course there's tremendous racial problems, police problems, of violence problems, 399 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: but in a way, there also is a kind of 400 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: ethos of you know, bike lanes connecting neighborhoods and subways 401 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: and public transportation, all that kind of stuff. All that 402 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: kind of falls apart. And so if you just take 403 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: what happened to Kansas City or Atlanta and apply that 404 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: to New York, it's it's undoable, Like there's no New 405 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: York if that happens. And so in a way. This 406 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: is a targeted missile directed at population centers, liberal population centers. 407 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: It's a racial but to do like to do so, 408 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: then again I say who wins, right, because if everyone 409 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: is it, because it's not just yeah, I guess the rich. 410 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 1: We can turn America into parable of the sower and 411 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: the rich have the ability to have their walled off communities, 412 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: but they still need to go outside of those walled 413 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: off communities in order to access basic things like to 414 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: go to the grocery store, like to go to a restaurant, 415 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: like to go or do all of these things. So 416 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: there if you're creating an environment where no one anywhere 417 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: is safe with the target of trying to burst liberal bubbles. 418 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: But the reality is that this goes back to if 419 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: you care about nothing else, becoming an economic issue that 420 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: is one that is not fixable. Because if I'm working 421 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: from home, I'm living in a gated community, I'm no 422 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: longer going out. I fear to do all of these things. 423 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: I'm not spending money, right, Like I am actually put 424 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: in a position to hoard because I feel so unsafe 425 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: right and like so I'm trying to figure out if 426 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: I am Alito and fucking Clarence Thomas and these people 427 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: that are on the bench making these decisions that are 428 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: disrupting everything. Like there, you're talking about places that we 429 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: know hold a lot of American debt, like China, like 430 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, like whomever, that buy up real estate in 431 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: these areas that will no longer be doing that because 432 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: this environment will be incredibly unsafe. So I'm like confused 433 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: again about who is winning other than gun manufacturers for 434 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: a very short period of time. Well, I mean, that's 435 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: that you nailed it right. On one hand. In Dying 436 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: of Whiteness, I showed that when Tennessee didn't expand Medicaid, 437 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: the life expectancy of the entire state fell, And that's 438 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: because all the resources for healthcare went toward emergency room care, 439 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: which is much more expensive because people didn't have health insurance, 440 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: and they came in when they were much sicker, and 441 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: the problems they came in with were much more expensive, 442 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: and so ultimately everybody suffered except for the wealthiest people 443 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: and corporations. Similarly, when you let gunt, I mean, imagine 444 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: the arms race that's going to happen in New York 445 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: and Los Angeles and Boston. When the effects of this 446 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: Supreme Court decision filter down, it's going to be a windfall, 447 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: a windfall for gun manufacturers, for the n RA, for 448 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 1: the organizations that are seen as supporting I mean, the 449 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: NRA in twenty sixteen gave what like forty million dollars 450 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: to Trump, and that's probably much more than we even 451 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: There's much more of that than we even realized. And 452 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: so in a way, this is a particular power grab 453 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: that is economic and political, and it's honestly death to 454 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: the idea of the country in a way. So, I mean, 455 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful day out my window, you know, it's July. 456 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: But I will say that this Scientific American article like 457 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: it just every so often this kind of thing pops up, 458 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: right because there'll be an article then even though again 459 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm not in this article, but a million people right 460 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: to me and be like, your thesis about dying of 461 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: whiteness is right, and how come people aren't voting for 462 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: their public health? And I'm like, don't think about it 463 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: in terms of America. I think about it in terms 464 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: of Putin. Right, Putin doesn't care about public health. He's 465 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: just putting his people in a meat grinder destroying his 466 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: economy in the idea of beating the opposition and taking 467 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: power and russifying the Ukraine. And that's kind of that's 468 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: kind of what we're faced with now. It's just people 469 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: for reasons that are understandable, like we don't have a 470 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: history of that kind of conflict in our lifetimes, but 471 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: that is kind of what we're up against. And so 472 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: I feel like these numbers, these public health numbers, are tragic, 473 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: but they're also a warning sign for people to recognize 474 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: the ideology that you're up against. Right It's not about 475 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: life expectancy, it's about power. And so again, I know 476 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: this is very doom and gloom, but it's just very 477 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: much on my mind because the same thing keeps happening 478 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: when these articles come out, and then people are like, 479 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: what will it take to talk people into healthcare? And 480 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not the right question. The right question 481 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: is like, what will it take for you to recognize 482 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: the struggle you're in right now? Where life expectancy, your 483 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: life expectancy is is what's at risk. So I'm sorry, sorry, 484 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: Right this is this was as always incredibly eye opening 485 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: and equally as depressing because I don't really see any 486 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: recourse to be taken. I don't see a democratic party 487 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: that recognizes the strategy and that we are at war 488 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: um against this party, against this you know, dying of 489 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: whiteness mentality. Uh. And at the end of the day, 490 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: no one is going to win, right, even though even 491 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: those that are doing their greed power grab like it 492 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: won't last, right, It never does. That's what That's what 493 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: history tells us. And so I'm like, this set up 494 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: of failure right now is extraordinary. And then not to 495 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: have conversations about it, not to be bringing the alarm 496 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: about it, uh, not to be connecting the dots either 497 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: leads me to believe that you are complicit or you 498 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: were ignorant, and either way that is dangerous. 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