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Speaker 2: And by the way, this comes from throwaway, don't deserve

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Speaker 1: Wow, they did not bury the lead. No, they did not. Wow,

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Speaker 2: She started it about a year ago, so she's she's

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Speaker 2: She told me, not out of guilt, but to brag

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Speaker 2: in the comments and chat tell her, not tell her,

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Speaker 2: She asked me to cover for her if her husband

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Speaker 1: Wait, so she's trying to make Ope complicit in her

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Speaker 1: Oh that's what makes it so much worse. Oh, that's heartbreaking, dude.

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Speaker 2: Oh good point. Telling the husband and my husband is

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Speaker 2: She has recently been reading up on some anti traditional values,

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Speaker 2: But she's like going into these forums and then it's like,

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Speaker 2: So she then explained that she noticed her supervisor was

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Speaker 2: True, worry you stop. We have to stop the train

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Speaker 1: And then another story is gonna have your higher up

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Speaker 1: I wasn't condoning it sounds like it. Oh, I tried.

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Speaker 2: Some of I agree with John dah all right, but

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Speaker 2: I think Loki her telling Ope was like, because she's

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Speaker 2: I want it to implode. I that's my guest right now.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know what the heck is going on.

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Speaker 2: I can't tell if she's having some sort of psychosis

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Speaker 2: or if she's literally just so detached from her marriage

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Speaker 2: that she doesn't care what happens. Hubby and I are

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Speaker 2: still planning to go to Noah tonight. I'm honestly intrigued

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Speaker 2: to see what she says to him, if she says

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Speaker 1: Oh, I am so curious what happens. There's an update, right.

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Speaker 2: There's an update. There's comments. We have a judgment. Oh listen,

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Speaker 2: we are so far from over it's not even funny. Well,

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Speaker 2: let's get into these comments real quick. So Ziel Deepin says,

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Speaker 2: Tell the husband, then it's his decision on how scorch

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Speaker 2: shirts he wants to go. Yes, say what do we say?

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Speaker 2: What you do to her affects him? Get her fired?

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Speaker 2: You risk that he'll have to pay spousal support to her.

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Speaker 2: Tell the family they're going to bombard him. Yeah great points.

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Speaker 2: Uh no pants power stance says tell the husband, but

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Speaker 2: you can offer to go further scorched to earth, but leave.

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Speaker 1: It to him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what if he wants to play it cool while

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Speaker 1: Do they have kids? My question? Maybe he wants to

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Speaker 2: Filtered to them, and as said above, you could potentially

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Speaker 2: just hurt him further. Leave these decisions up to him.

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Speaker 2: He men, am, that's a W comment.

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Speaker 1: W comm W content, which we already said, so W

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Speaker 2: We're the biggest W here and Greatfood Express du eight says. Also,

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Speaker 2: So I agree, yeah, inform the husband and let him

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Speaker 2: his timeline. Also, while she goes away on that trip,

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Speaker 2: that would be a good time for her husband to

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Speaker 2: a hole which we have a big update, not just

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Speaker 1: Oh so we got big things coming.

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Speaker 2: And it's and it's exploded, it explodes quickly. This is

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Speaker 1: But in terms of not the A hole, I think

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Speaker 1: they yeah, I think full scorched earth is kind of

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's like you know you have again the the

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Speaker 2: actual harmful effects haven't happened yet. She had the thought

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Speaker 1: So oh, she was just like, I read your cond

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Speaker 1: your comments, but I already threw the bulls. I already

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Speaker 2: Well, guys, remember how she said she was going over

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Speaker 2: tonight two daysly, Babby, I apologize for not having time

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Speaker 1: To go nuclear. There we are though, there we go restraint.

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Speaker 1: We love to see it. We don't have to do

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it's not my circus.

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Speaker 2: The decision should be left up to the wronged party,

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Speaker 2: and that is Noah, her husband. I also decided to

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Speaker 1: She was like, I just don't know what could have

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Speaker 2: Because she was so unbothered and so unremorseful about the

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Speaker 2: the kind of fine lootpoles or ways ahead, But cheating

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Speaker 2: it was not normal.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 2: If you didn't see my small update, the whole reason

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Speaker 2: at work. It evolved into an emotional affair eventually. Low

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Speaker 2: She admitted that her new friends from some feminism forums

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Speaker 1: What are these feminist forums? That doesn't sound very feminine.

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Speaker 2: How is your making less than your husband means you're

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Speaker 1: Feminism? Women? Feminists, not feminition. I don't know what is that?

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Speaker 1: What is that voice? I don't know. That's my feminist voice,

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Speaker 2: Now, something I've learned is she's been more insecure about

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Speaker 2: They also told her that using a man isn't cheating

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Speaker 2: as long as there's no emotional attachment, that she's being

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Speaker 2: a girl. Boss, Shut up, Riley, he's in the background now.

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Speaker 2: She admitted that she couldn't separate her feelings from the

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Speaker 1: Boyfriend and girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: Now the affair partner slash boss knows she's married, but

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Speaker 1: We're just not divorced on paper.

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Speaker 2: Her, come on, man, my hubby and I arrived and

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Speaker 2: Noah and Alissa's with some booze and some dinner, and

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Speaker 2: It seems she sat him down and told him that

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Also not just a vacation, my dream vacation, my

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Speaker 2: So Noah, being the clueless and loyal person he is,

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Speaker 2: So he when she admits of the affair, he thinks

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Speaker 1: He's like, really, let me pack my bags. That's such

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Speaker 2: This is you, this is you, imagine dude, this image

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Speaker 1: and I'm putting you down the farm in heaven. Oh God.

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Speaker 2: So he asked if they were going to Italy like

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Speaker 2: they had planned for, and Alissa alsa. She just stared

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Speaker 2: at him. She repeated, with my boyfriend. It took a

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Speaker 2: few minutes, but it finally sunk in. He told us

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Speaker 2: it wasn't pretty after that, and he said that he

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Speaker 2: embarrassingly got on his knees and begged her to fix everything.

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Speaker 1: Ah, the knees Italy please, dude. She yelled for a bit,

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Speaker 1: but then was just stonewalling him again. How is she yelling? What?

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Speaker 1: What is happening? I feel like this woman is neurotic

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Speaker 1: to the bone, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: She was already packed to leave. She just left him

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Speaker 2: there sobbing. She turned off our location, which both Noah

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Speaker 2: and I were a part of her family on the app.

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Speaker 1: Why then she turns it back on when she's in Italy? Dude?

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Speaker 2: Also, if you didn't guess the last part, they all

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Speaker 2: share their locations with each other. That's how close everyone is.

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Speaker 1: My god, I share my location with everyone, right you do?

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Speaker 1: It's a good wow. I don't feel special anymore. Ooh,

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Speaker 1: so do you? That's not true? I only have like

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Speaker 1: forty people that are s.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tight circle for it, and we have

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Speaker 2: no idea where she went. We assumed that she went

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Speaker 2: to her affair partner's house, because if she had gone

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Speaker 2: home with her two suitcases, her mother would have reached

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Speaker 2: out to know immediately.

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Speaker 1: She sees him as a son.

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Speaker 2: I explained to him that, in a moment of blind rage,

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Speaker 2: I was planning on going scorched shirts and telling everyone.

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Speaker 2: But once I calm him down and looked at this rationally,

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Speaker 2: I realized that it wasn't the right thing to do,

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Speaker 2: which was what we thought was the case.

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Speaker 1: I mean, more like Reddit told her not to. This

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Speaker 1: is true. Yeah, that is true.

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Speaker 2: The only person going full nuclear would be who would

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Speaker 2: be hurt was him, because Alissa obviously doesn't care anymore.

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Speaker 2: As I suspected, the idea of reconciliation is still going

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Speaker 2: on in his mind, but he doesn't see it happening.

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Speaker 2: In order to reconcile, both parties must admit faul and

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Speaker 2: want to reconcile. Alyssa clearly does it.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: We've gotten him in contact with a friend of my

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Speaker 2: husband's who's agreed to help him pro bono until the

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Speaker 2: divorce shows results, so I can tell that he's still

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Speaker 2: hesitanting about going forward with the divorce, but he knows

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Speaker 2: that he can't force Alyssa to stay. As the comments

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Speaker 2: have suggested, this is where we bow out. We're obviously

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Speaker 2: going to continue to support Noah, but it's not our

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Speaker 2: situation to handle, it's his.

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Speaker 1: If there's any future updates, all of course, ask Noah first.

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Speaker 2: There are future updates, stay tuned, but you'll be the

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Speaker 2: second to no Thanks for being so supportive and helpful.

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Speaker 1: It made me realize that how Noah.

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Speaker 2: Handles his life and his marriage is his responsibility, not mind.

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Speaker 2: So guys, we have not only another edit, not only

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Speaker 2: more comments with Op's response, but the big kahuna an

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Speaker 2: update nine days later, possibly after she comes back from

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Speaker 2: the vacation, the dream vacation and confronting her again.

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Speaker 1: I just feel bad that he's like, I still want

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Speaker 1: to fix this, and the only like it's it's just

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Speaker 1: not fixable.

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Speaker 2: It's like he's the the good guy to a fault, right,

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Speaker 2: He's like, how can I reconcile?

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Speaker 1: But also this is the first night he has found out,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, he's going he's going through the levels of grief.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so hopefully he comes around in these nine days.

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Speaker 1: We have left taking time bomb.

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Speaker 2: OP has said OPI is now like I've informed him,

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Speaker 2: I've done my job.

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Speaker 1: I'm bowing out, which is the right move from OPE.

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Speaker 1: I think OPE has reclaimed they're not the a whole

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Speaker 1: title or reaffirmed it rather because not doing the crazy stuff,

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Speaker 1: you know,