WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, December 3 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:05.600 He's celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Was good 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:09.600 from awake and the Jaguars had beaten a long Angela target. 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:20.880 It is a victory Monday, dece This is Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:27.400 Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Jet Home Loans and 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.400 now a guy who's currently taking bids to come to 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:38.560 your house and watch the ball drop Jay Schedules open. Yeah, um, 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.760 welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home Loans. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:44.879 At the end of the twenty nineteen season, j P. Shadrick, 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:48.960 Tony Boselli, Pete Prisco and We've got plenty to discuss 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:54.320 in this program. The season aftermath is beginning today Locker 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:56.880 room clean out Day. We'll hear from some guys in 0:00:56.880 --> 0:01:00.480 the locker room today on their final day of really here. 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:02.720 It's the t I A. Bank Field. The future of 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:06.840 the football leadership is the big question around the Jaguars 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:11.560 world today. What will that entail? Will hopefully soon find out. 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:13.759 The NFL Draft selections are said as well. We're gonna 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:18.400 officially talk NFL Draft tonight. That's what you're talking, Pete, 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:22.360 what's up? I like talking NFL draft? Tony hates it. 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:25.759 I like talking NFL Draft in November. I've been fine 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.400 with it this year, Pete, I've been pushed back at all. No, 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:32.280 you've been much better. If you're a realist. Now, that's 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.000 what happened when you become a member of the media. 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.600 I think I'm I'm leaving the media. You're leaving. I'm 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:44.440 gonna divorce myself. You're done, We'll see you never know. 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.200 You never know. Once you're in. Once you're in, you're in. 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.000 You can't get out. You take it out blood in bloodles. 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.400 Unless you've got information that you're being named a general 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:55.640 managers somewhere. Do not breaking news. No news that is 0:01:55.640 --> 0:02:01.040 not happening. No news. Okay, we have a GM. First 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.880 of all, there is a GM here. I didn't say there. 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:08.640 Maybe you were going somewhere else. Broncos the partner with Elway, 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:13.000 my childhood childhood hero. How could he have been your 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:18.239 childhood hero when you're older than he is. He was 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.080 in the eight three draft that was eleven eleven years old. 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:26.120 I know, just you look a lot older than he does. No, actually, no, 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:30.600 you don't know. I don't. Let's start off with that 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.680 looking ahead to the future. But in the aftermath of 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.919 the Jaguars win last night, head coach Doug Marone discussing 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:41.480 his future shout of Tony want a a great football 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.640 team here that there's not There's no doubt in my mind, 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.840 and they are two great honors. So, um, it's just 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:52.240 a matter of doesn't make sense as it's right. Obviously, 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.920 I'm not going to communicate that here. That's you know, 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:58.720 for a private conversation. And this is the way I feel, 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:00.120 this is what we have to do, this is what 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.919 I need and you know, expressed those opinions and if 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:07.000 it's if it is the right direction, then I'm the 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.760 right person for the job. If it isn't, then I'm not. 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:14.119 There are reports today that there are meeting scheduled tomorrow 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:18.480 between the ownership and the football leadership of the Jaguars. 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:20.560 Are these the same sources that said he was fired 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.920 on Saturday allegedly? I don't know. That's a great question, 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:29.560 same four letter network, But yes, reporting that was that 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:35.080 was an interesting Saturday, pete, very very interesting. And the 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:40.680 reason I say that is, um, the report came out 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:46.600 and then they quickly destroyed the report. And when they 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.640 destroyed the report, they did it with the left, and 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.160 then the overhand right because Jim Woodcox sent out the 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:57.120 statement and then Tony Khan sent out the tweet, and 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:00.960 they just obliterated the report. And as of right now, 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:05.680 the report is wrong. It doesn't mean it's going to 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:09.280 be wrong, but it's wrong as of right now. Yeah, 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:12.480 I mean they said it was gonna be after the season. 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:16.040 The season's over. Nothing's happened. The report is that he 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.840 was told he was told. I mean that we know, 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:23.040 like we that the report will never be right Pete 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:24.760 because the report said he was told that he's going 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:30.280 to be dismissed. The conversation never happened. I mean, has 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:38.560 not been told anything. So what not that we can 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:40.560 spend too much time on this, but as a reporter, 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:42.600 because I mean, this is your livelihood, I mean, you're 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:44.600 really the media. I mean, this is your report for 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.560 a living What I mean, what does that do to 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:54.960 to a reporter when something you missed something that bad. Well, 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.000 I'm gonna give you an example. I would I missed 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.880 something and I reported as but I said it on 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:04.359 the air that the Arizona Cardinals were not going to 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:11.880 take Kyler Murray. Now I was told that by somebody 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:17.479 I trusted and reported it. I didn't say, you know, 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.000 to make it exclose. I just put it out there 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.320 on the show. I don't think they're taking him. I've 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:25.080 been told that they're leaning in another direction. Well it 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.480 ended up they took them, and people got all over me, 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:29.880 and I went back to the guy who told me that, 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:36.039 are you lied to me? And I was mad, really, man, 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:39.200 I said, of all the people you know, why would 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:43.320 you lie to me about that? And he apologized up 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.720 and down and whatever, and I said, look, bygones, be bygones. 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:51.240 So I got the information and I had found out 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:54.040 part of the problem was they if the baseball clause 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:57.400 in his contract wasn't remedied, they might not have taken him. 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:00.279 But I got the information from a trusted, reliable source 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:07.680 and it was wrong. So did Diana Rossini get the 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:11.960 information from a trusted, reliable source and it was wrong? 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.559 That's the question. Well, that's I mean, why else would 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.000 she report it? I mean, she's a very credible, like 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:22.240 good reputation as a journalist. Why would she report it 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.880 if she didn't have a good, good source? Right? But 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:30.560 they're only sources that would know that are shot Khan, 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:40.080 Tony Khan probably, Jim Woodcock probably, and Doug Moron and 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:45.120 maybe Dave Cobble And that's it when you agree and 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:49.720 maybe would maybe Doug's agent. Yeah, that's it. The story 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:52.560 was reported. She could have left herself, but out by 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:56.200 saying it appears that as soon as the season's over, 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:58.600 there's a good chance Doug Marone will be let go, 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.640 rather than saying he's been told that he will be 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:05.040 let go after the season. Because it's still a possibility, 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.080 you know that. So if you let go on Tuesday 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.680 when they have their meeting, but she's still wrong even 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:12.600 if he's let go Tuesday, right, But okay, but if 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:16.800 he's left going Tuesday after the meeting, do they say 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.880 we had it right? And I would answer that question 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.680 by saying, as a journalist, no, because of the way 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:26.480 you reported it. Yeah, it was just crazy. It was 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:30.120 a crazy timeline. Yeah, what happens if they keep them? 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.520 Then what does she do? Because that's even wor that's 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.160 a bad look. But again I go back there. I 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.360 told you the story would happened to me. And sometimes 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:42.240 you trust the source and it's not right depending on 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.960 the source. Now, my source was rock solid, so I 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.920 was angry about it, and I'm sure she'll have a source, 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:50.480 Like if it's a periphery agent that told her that 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.680 bad source. If it was one it was, you know, 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.200 one of the cons who told her that it's not true, 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:01.120 then they have some explaining to do. And I doubt 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:06.680 it was then. By the way, another question, that's what's 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:10.840 going to happen after these meetings tomorrow? Well, if they 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.040 were going to fire him, why would you wait till Tuesday. 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.240 That's just my theory on it. It makes no sense. 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.600 You get ahead of the game. Today was a day 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.360 um other than Jerry Jones who likes to have his 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.720 own stage and fire guys what he wants to to 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:26.040 make it look good. Yeah, but when you say get 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:28.160 ahead of the game, if you do tomorrow instead of today, 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:31.760 you're not. I mean, he didn't lose any ground, No, 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:33.839 But what's the point of making a guy twist in 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:35.440 the wind a little bit too? I don't. I don't 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.720 think that's what they're doing. I think I think according 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:40.880 to the report and everything I hear, is that you know, 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.240 Sean wants to sit down and everybody wants to have 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.960 a deep evaluation of where we are as an organization 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.680 and make a decision with all the facts. Didn't they 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:54.000 spend time together last Friday? It's some dinner. A report 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.560 on Thursday that they were at dinner. Yes, I mean, 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:01.319 how much more do you need? Let me ask you this. 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:04.600 You will think what I've been saying is accurate, that 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.319 the pushback from the fan base is really influencing him 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:12.280 this time around. I don't. I actually don't know. I 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:18.000 think this is a situation where Thanks wants to I 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:19.520 think he wants to talk to a lot of people, 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.280 he wants to get a good sense, and obviously to 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.800 the two most important or David Doug. But I think 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.760 he's I think he's doing a bunch of due diligence 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.320 right now to make sure he has all the facts 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.840 and has all the information he needs, and he wants 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:35.560 to make a decision, and I think that's the right 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:37.240 way to do it, by the way, and I wouldn't 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.199 be shocked if it even goes down to the locker 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:42.560 room as well. Today was player getaway day, and I'm 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:46.040 sure there's probably some key players that he, you know, 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:50.640 talked to just to get their ideas of things. I 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.440 always think talking to players is dangerous and I was, 0:09:53.520 --> 0:10:00.040 and I was, well, because there's a player. Unless you 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:04.800 just hate the head coach, knowing that there's a chance 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.680 he's come back, you're not gonna kill him unless you 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:11.920 just can't stand him. And if you like them, if 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.559 you really like them, you might go the other way, 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.320 even though you know that maybe things can be better, 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.640 but you really like him as a person. And so 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:21.960 I think, not that it's not a good thing to 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.880 talk to people and get a perspective, but take it 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:26.560 for what it is. Yeah, I think that you always 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.280 gonna take all of that with a grain of salt. 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.640 So what do you think happens? I think they're both back. 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:37.160 I think they're both back to and I do think 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:41.040 that the pushback in town has been heard and they've 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:45.360 noticed it. Why do you say that, Pete, Because I Tony, 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.679 I've been I lived in that town for how long, 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:51.960 and I know that fan base. I don't ever remember 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.120 him being this fired up about the potential bringing those 0:10:55.120 --> 0:11:00.960 guys back. Ever. Ever, they're mad, Tony. They're mad. You 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.720 know you live there. You hear it on the radio 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.360 and in the comments and people talking to you. They're 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.599 as the fans are as mad and angry and frustrated 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:14.520 as they've ever been. Yeah, like mad, I would actually 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:20.959 describe it differently. I would say frustrated, and um, what 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.120 does it say bewildered? But that's not the right right 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:31.320 word of wondering, I guess wondering what the reason is? 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:36.120 Like you know what I'm saying, not because I don't 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:39.959 think anyone dislikes Dave or dislikes Doug, but I think 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.840 what the fan base is saying is, you know, since 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.920 Day's been here, it's six double digit losing seasons out 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:49.520 of seven. Um, right now, I think, I mean we've 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:53.120 sat there. You look at the roster, it's it's at 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:57.480 best bottom third of the NFL. Would you say that, 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:02.760 oh yeah, without questions? And so you know you look 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:05.400 at some of the miss first rounders and the miss 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:09.720 second rounders, and you know the Jalen Ramsey stuff that 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:11.920 I mean, we don't. I mean, let's not forget to 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.360 Telvin submit the pro bowler just decided one day to leave, 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:19.200 um you know, like borders the quarterbacks, and I mean, 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:23.520 just to look at all of that, and and now 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.040 more than ever, even more than I am that that 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.760 I think is right in the NFL. It is such 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.440 a such a wins and losses? What have you done 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:36.080 for me? Immediately when he saw Pat Sherman get fired 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.480 after two years, Freddy Kitchens after one after one year, 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.120 and then people want immediate results. And so when you 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:44.600 look at the situation, you said, I hate the fans 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.680 are saying they're frustrated because they want to win, and 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:51.320 everyone's frustrated and more than anger, it's kind of like 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:58.679 looking and saying like like, help me understand what we're 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.160 what we're looking at and why it's gonna be different. 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.240 And I think that's you know, more of the and 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.360 there's some anger in there there as well, But I 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:11.360 think that's the major sentiment I had. I had I've 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:14.760 had talking to people and I haven't today. So one 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.200 asking me questions like, well, just can you explain to 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:23.040 me why that they would be back, And wasn't angry 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:28.360 loves the franchise, you know, wants it to be successful, 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.160 fan everything else, but it was it was just like 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.360 that kind of like just help me understand why, and 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:39.119 it'll be interesting. I think it's me when uh assuming, 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.200 I mean, this is my sense that they both come 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:46.240 back and the announcement comes out, what kind of information 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:50.439 will be given kind of what is the you know expectations, 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:55.480 uh from the team and from from Dave and Doug, 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:58.160 and I think you know, well that also could be this. 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:02.079 It also could be a situation wation where they're looking 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:05.800 at it. They can't get out from underneath false contract, right, 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:10.120 they can't unless some he retires, which he's not he 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.880 said today he's not doing, or they give up draft 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:14.760 picks and some team is foolish enough to take him. 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.240 Or he restructures a contract which in his case, why 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:18.640 would you do it? Or give it up money? So 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.400 he's not gonna do that. So they can't get from 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.160 out from underneath that. So they're stuck with him for 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.520 another year. So if you try and hire a new 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:29.960 coach outside that guy comes in, he's stuck with him. 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.800 And now after a year, if they don't win, then 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:35.960 you get rid of Doug and Dave and then you 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.160 go from there and they're not stuck. The guy who 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.320 comes in the GM slash new coach is not stuck 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.560 with Nick Foles and that contract that's an albatross hanging 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:51.880 over them right now. Yeah, you like it, You're like that, Well, 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:55.800 his face, his face showed it. The whole big false things. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:15:01.360 Fascinating to me, I means so fascinating. I mean six 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:04.320 months ago or eight months ago, nine months ago. Now 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:08.400 when they signed him, the excitement and great and yes, 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:10.680 like some of us and most of us said, you 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.320 made it, might have paid a little bit more than 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:16.200 you had to, but like, this is the guy everyone wanted. 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:22.720 And literally after two and a half games, we now 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:27.880 cannot stand him and he's the worst quarterback ever. That's 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:33.080 what's fascinating to me. Like, how did he go from 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:38.560 the guy Yes, we're excited too, the biggest disaster? How 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:42.840 do we get rid of them? Your attire situation over 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:49.200 two and a half games? Three starts, two full games 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.160 or uh two full games a half plus eleven play 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:53.800 a little bit over two and a half games, so 0:15:53.920 --> 0:16:00.520 three starts, four starts, four starts, four starts, and the fans, 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:04.240 fans don't think he's any good either. But people, you 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.840 know what I mean, Come on, though, man, if we 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:08.760 can't decide it on that, I mean, you just gotta 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:13.400 decided on but you can't. You can't make like and 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.840 I'm not saying, by the way, he's the guy. I'm 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:20.040 just saying, boy, it's tough to make a judgment based 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:26.480 on just two and a half games of work. We've 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.400 got plenty of time. But that's what but that is, 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.000 that's what's happened. 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I 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:24.880 know I want to plaint another one, that's for sure. 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.399 I still got out of football armant and uh, you know, 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:29.560 I mean it used to be my goal with fifteen, 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:31.720 you know, but now I just wanna I just wanna 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:35.960 take you know, Uh, I got I definitely one more 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:38.200 year playing at the high level, so uh, you know, 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:41.080 hopefully have a few more. But I definitely got one more. 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:45.240 Claire Is Campbell in the locker room today, Jaguars defensive lineman. 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:49.560 Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jed Homelans continues JP Shaddrick, 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:55.040 Pete Priscoe. Tony Baselli has joined us back on set. 0:20:56.359 --> 0:21:00.119 Calais un one of those names that you you just 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:03.400 wonder what's gonna happen in the off season here. I mean, 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:06.600 the guy just finished his twelfth season. He's got a 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:11.040 big cap number, small dead cap number next year, but 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.880 you you love his presence certainly on this football team. 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:16.639 He made an impact play yesterday with the fumble return touchdown. 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:18.840 And we can go through a few guys on defense. 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:22.040 Let's start with Klais. I mean this is you know, 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:25.520 there's some savings to be had there, but you still 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:28.159 want him and he still wants to play well, No, 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:30.719 you definitely want him on the team. At the bottom 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:33.840 line is you can't pay him the fourteen fifty million 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:36.360 dollars whatever it is next year you owe him. Might 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:38.240 even be more than that. Seventeen and a half cap 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:40.919 hit two and a half million dollar dead cap, so 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:45.520 it's a fifteen million dollar delta. I mean, you can't 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.480 pay it. I mean, right now we are the way 0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:50.960 what how I understand the cap were over the cap 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:55.000 going in the next year, and that's before the draft 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.040 and before any free agency. So you have to make 0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:01.120 hard decisions. You gotta let eys go. Who are starters 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:06.600 in this football team and where the team sits right now? 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:10.679 You want Calais back because of his leadership, his presence. 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:13.720 You want him playing probably about thirty snaps a game, 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:18.879 and for that you're probably only gonna be able to 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:22.680 pay him seven to nine million because you have to 0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:27.280 get a cap savings. You get, um, he's not an 0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:30.880 every down guy anymore. His reps are need to be way, 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:34.520 you know, reduced to the big way. And so you 0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:36.720 look at a guy like that, what you hope is 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:40.000 that he wants to be here, because I don't think 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:44.240 I don't see anyone paying him, you know, twelve thirteen 0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:51.600 million dollars a year, But do you want seven eight 0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:56.119 making a two year deal with funny money in it 0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:58.320 and you get give him a bonus and make the 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:02.200 cap hit lass maybe make it you know, spread it out, 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:05.760 have some big incentives in there, so the productions there, 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:10.920 you can pay him more. But I just don't I mean, 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.280 but so truly it's gonna be in clays his court. 0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:15.600 Does he want to come back here? Does he want 0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:19.720 to play for less money in Jacksonville or does he 0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:22.720 want to go to a contender or if he feels 0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:24.800 like this team is too far away, does he want 0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:28.359 to try to go get a ring? What's your gut 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:34.160 telling you? I don't know. I haven't spent any time 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:37.080 with class. Um. I think he lle I think he 0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:39.960 likes it Jacksually, he's he's probably the most popular player 0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:45.080 in Jacksonville right now. Um, but that's a question. He's 0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:48.160 gonna have to make a decision his family, his future, 0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:50.320 like kind of the business, what he wants to do. 0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:53.639 But the one the only thing I know is you 0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:58.080 can't pay him what he's due. You can't. You can't 0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:00.919 pay him, You can't play morcel Darius, and you can't 0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:07.000 joy three big names now and you might tell Andrew 0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:13.560 normal they are caught the big name today unique in Goquay. 0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:17.400 And he had some comments after the game last night 0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:19.880 when it was asked about his future in Jacksonville. Are 0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:22.280 you willing to listen to the Jags or do you not? 0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:24.399 I won't even do that in like I said, I 0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:25.720 mean for four years, I learnt a lot. You know 0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:27.840 what I mean? Business is business and uh, I'm not 0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:29.600 sure for the future. Holes. Like I said, man, I 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:31.520 learned a lot about this organization for being here for 0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:33.680 four years business business, and I don't know the future. 0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:35.080 Like I said it in for four years and learn 0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:39.600 a lot about this organization the business business. I've been 0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:43.639 here for four years and learned a lot. Was that 0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:45.680 the answer that it was the answer to every question 0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:49.640 about the future for him in Jacksonville. And of course 0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:52.680 it translate that it's if they paid me. I'm staying. 0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:56.280 If they don't, I'm going unless they tag me. Well, 0:24:56.760 --> 0:25:00.639 you tag him if you're jackson of course, and not 0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:03.800 that you don't not that by tagging, I'm not saying 0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:05.480 you don't try to get any long term deal done. 0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:09.280 But you tag him so you have some leverage. It's 0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:13.320 about leverage. You tag him. Can I can I interject 0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:16.399 something here? I think this deal is more likely to 0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:23.000 get done now that Tom is gone. Just from stuff 0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:25.560 I've heard and was told, I think this deal is 0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:30.160 much more likely to get done now that Tom's gone. 0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:37.919 How much would you pay him? That's a tough one Tony, 0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:41.640 because that's that's the one. Look am I paying him? 0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:43.760 He turned down that he had a better year than 0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:51.160 DeMarcus Lawrence did, okay, Pete, he has yeah, he turned 0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:53.719 down nineteen million in the last two years. He has 0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.760 a total of seventeen sacks. Or you have nine last 0:25:56.800 --> 0:26:00.280 year and nine and a half I know you have 0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:05.680 eight this year. Um, So he had seventeen seventeen a 0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:09.840 half sacks in two years. He is identity, He's a 0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:14.240 he's a splash player. He is a guy who plays 0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:17.240 his tail off. He's you know, he's the perfect guy 0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:18.960 as far as taking care of his business. You want 0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:20.399 him in the locker room. He had nine and a 0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:22.560 half last year, eight this year. So seventeen a half 0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:24.720 sacks and two years. Are you paying twenty million plus 0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:29.000 for that? Pete? For an average of so he's he's 0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:31.879 how many he has thirty seven total sacks? I think 0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:34.440 it is seven and a half. So over four years 0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:39.639 he's averaging under tenure, under ten s accident year. And 0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.520 that's what he is. He's a pass rusher. It's not 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:45.680 I mean he is. He played the run better this year, 0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:49.600 without a doubt, but it's not like he's not. That's 0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:56.359 not where he's that's not his strength. So for and 0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:58.440 so for nine and basically he's averaging nine and a 0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:02.320 half sacks a year over four years. Are you paying 0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:10.359 twenty he turned down nineteen. I've already wants twenty one. 0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:16.520 Are you paying that? Let's put this way. De Marcus 0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:21.240 Lawrence just got it last year and he has fifteen 0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:23.800 and a half sacks in the last two years, including 0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:27.520 five this year. Uh, in the last three years he 0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:32.160 has twenty four and five twenty nine. Frank Clark has 0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:36.200 twenty one in the last two years, and he got it. Now. 0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:39.639 Are they better run players than he is? Pray Clark 0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:43.280 is for sure? Uh? Yeah, and I'd say de Marcus 0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:46.040 Lawrence is too. But when you pay a guy like that, 0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:48.320 you're not paying him for his run defense, you know that, 0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:56.600 So you'd pay him twenty one? I b I almost 0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:58.240 think it's one of those you're damned if you do 0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:03.080 and damned if you don't. I'm asking you, Pete go, 0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:07.760 Mr wanna be. I tag him. I would tag him, 0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:09.439 and the tag on the tag is going to be 0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:13.000 probably seventeen this year. I tag him and then see 0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:15.119 what he does and then if he goes out and 0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:18.160 has because he took a while to get going this year, 0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:20.640 that could easily been double digit side. Wouldn't he hurt 0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:24.679 early in the season for about hand, Yeah, but he 0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:27.119 was also hurt like he wasn't the same guy earlier 0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:29.880 in the season. You can see that, So that could 0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:35.560 easily have been ten ten and a half. So you're 0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:39.560 you're par leading towards paying. Here's why, Tony, I think 0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:41.240 when you come to the line of scrimmage in the NFL, 0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:42.840 you know this as well as anybody got one guy 0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:44.360 over here, you can rush the pastor you've got another 0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:47.080 guy over here can rush the pastor. That's a foundation 0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:50.520 for your defense. That gives you in the current NFL, 0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:54.520 gives you the ability to go chase down quarterbacks. If 0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:57.320 you get rid of him, then everything becomes all about 0:28:57.360 --> 0:29:00.600 Alan and you don't have to you have one. Now, 0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.200 could you find one in the draft? Maybe, but aren't 0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:06.920 you better off bringing him back on a tag or 0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:09.400 getting a deal done to have an Alan in there? 0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.160 Then you maybe you get Klais on a cheap deal 0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:16.560 or a cheaper deal, and then you go draft Derek 0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:20.040 Brown from Auburn, put him inside David Bryant's actually played 0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:22.440 well the last month, and he was pretty good yesterday. 0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:24.480 Just from the TV taper looked like, I don't want 0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:26.000 to break it to you, but Derrek Brown is not 0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:31.240 gonna be there at nine. He might be. He might 0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:36.680 be tony. I mean, he might be. And then and 0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:38.480 then you can get or if you take an offensive 0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:40.240 lineman there, come back and get a defensive lineman at 0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:42.640 the top at the at the next pick. The bottom 0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:44.680 line is, I think if you can get a big 0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.680 power inside player to go with that group, you have 0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:50.440 the foundation of a heck of a front, and I 0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:53.320 think they need that. So I'm thinking I would be 0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:56.480 concerned if I let that lead the building. It's gonna 0:29:56.520 --> 0:30:00.080 go get sixteen seventeen sacks somewhere else on a and 0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:03.400 then maybe sixteen and twelve with thirteen on a consistent basis. 0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:06.480 That would be my concerned. What if he doesn't sign 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:11.360 the tender, well, then he's then he's getting bad advice. 0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:14.840 He's not gonna make any money right right. Then? The 0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:17.360 bottom line is you're a year, an earning year is 0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:19.360 going off your body. You only have so many left 0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:21.560 in him. Uh, he would sign it. So the one 0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:25.800 thing is if I'm bringing him back, I'm tagging him 0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:27.320 and trying. I'm trying to work out a deal, but 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.400 I'm just gonna tag him. Um because if you tag him. 0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:32.440 The other thing is if you struggle to get a 0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:36.600 deal done, you can trade him the what could you 0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:40.320 get for him in theory, Well, they got a one 0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:43.120 for Frank Clark. You're not getting one for him, but 0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.960 you might get a team, a desperate team and in 0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.440 need that takes its close of a pass rush year. 0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:53.040 Do you think Frank Clark's better? Uh, unique, he's yes, 0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:55.440 just this year. He probably has it because he's been 0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:59.160 hurt all year. But I think healthy he's a little 0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:02.600 bit better than him. Yeah. Us. But one thing for 0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:06.720 sure is if I'm not playing I'm not playing Yahn 0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:13.000 at defensive end stand up guy when you can play 0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.160 Alan in that position. To I'm playing him as a 0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:19.040 sam linebacker in first and second down and then and Nickel, 0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:21.080 I'll put his hand on the ground, let him rest 0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:24.440 a passer. I just don't think he's big enough to 0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:29.400 hold up playing and play out. It's not his strength. Uh, 0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:31.960 he was better this year to play a you know, 0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:35.400 hand in the ground defensive end line up and on 0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.840 tight on the tight end and a sixth technique just 0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.040 I mean getting double team. I mean, that's not his strength. 0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:43.120 He's not John is not a big man. He's an 0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:46.160 athletic man. He's a powerful man, but he's not a 0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:52.200 big guy. What is he? Six one? Yeah? Right right 0:31:52.200 --> 0:32:00.720 at that? So he should be playing are in the 0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:03.040 three four principles because you're not really three four? He 0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.800 should be standing up with the other book end standing 0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:10.520 up on the other side. Let's come back, By the way, 0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:14.920 j in that scenario, you get Josh Allen on the 0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:18.720 field more than his usual snaps. Again, so I'm all 0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:20.720 for then. I think you gotta play to what you have. 0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:27.840 Here's the other thing. He's only twenty four now, he's young, 0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:31.200 young guy. We'll come back. Let's get back on the 0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:33.840 quarterback topic. When we come back, we'll try to figure 0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:37.480 that out. 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There's 0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:33.360 people out there that believe in me, and you know 0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:34.799 I know what I can do. I show what I 0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:37.239 can do. Um. So I look forward to what the 0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:41.759 future holds. Obviously getting away, refreshing myself and getting ready 0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:45.279 to roll. But I'll be ready to fire away coming 0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:49.400 out there slinging it. Nick Foles in the locker room today, 0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:52.359 I'm clean out day at t I A Bankfield, Welcome Back, 0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:56.360 Jaguar's Happy Hour, j P. Shaddrick, Tony Vasselli, Pete Briscoe. 0:36:56.880 --> 0:37:00.160 The aftermath of the season finale, I'll win over the Colts. 0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:04.520 Big questions moving ahead, certainly for this organization, and one 0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:08.320 of those is at the quarterback position. Gardner Minshew six 0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:11.440 and six as a starter this year, Nick Foles oh 0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:13.719 and four as a starter. You just heard from Nick 0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:15.960 there he's does it sound like he wants to be 0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:19.879 a backup? Sounds like he wants to come play. Well, 0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:23.799 he might not have a choice. I mean unless he's 0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:26.319 willing to take a pay cut and get traded, which 0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:30.400 I'm not sure why he would. Um, he's gonna have 0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:33.080 to go beat Dot Minshew, and right now I would 0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:36.120 give the edge to Gardner Minshew in that in that 0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:38.719 battle as you go into office, the office is making 0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:43.239 the decision. Well as of right now, it's it's duck 0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:49.000 As it stands now, it's duck um. And I think 0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:53.320 based on how the season finished in that last game, 0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:57.400 that Gardner Minshew as a clear you know, head start 0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:00.560 in the race to get to grab the number one 0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:05.920 quarterback position here in Jacksonville. He surprised me yesterday with 0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:08.359 the way he played. He hadn't been playing like that. 0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:15.239 So I said something on Twitter, Pete right, No, I try. 0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:17.840 I said it on the show tonight this morning with 0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:21.800 Dan and Jeff. They asked me why was the offense 0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:27.080 so much more dynamic, explosive, And one of the things 0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:31.160 I said, I said, you know, Leonard Fournette wasn't in there. 0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:35.600 And Leonard Fournette had a great year this year, great year, fabulous, 0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:40.120 did everything you ask. But it felt like, and if 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:42.760 you go look at the first fifteen plays that were scripted, 0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:46.520 they threw it much more. They came out throwing it, 0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:50.839 moving the pocket, getting to going, and it felt like 0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:55.600 that they weren't trying to force the offense through Leonard. 0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:58.120 Now that's not Leonard's fault, he just he does whatever 0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:02.000 they call. But I I wonder not only D Flippo 0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:04.839 can answer this. Did D Filippo feel like he had 0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:10.680 to get letter going early in games and because of that, 0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:14.960 trying to force everything on the ground, everyone knowing that 0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:18.160 loading the box make it very difficult for Leonard to 0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:20.319 run the ball, where this week it felt like it 0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:23.000 was much more opened up. That was just a feeling 0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:26.000 I had watching the game. The game it did, it 0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:32.640 did feel much more opened up. The backs looked because 0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:37.319 Leonard has had a good year, but the backs look quicker, 0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:46.920 more explosive. Is that accurate? Um? I didn't come away 0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:51.920 thinking they're more explosive or quicker. I came away feeling. 0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:58.200 I came away feeling like D. Filippo's said, we don't 0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:00.200 have our star back in there, so we're gonna ended 0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:02.160 up spread it out and do some different stuff. That's 0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:06.000 what it felt like to me. But you didn't think 0:40:06.040 --> 0:40:08.760 that there was a significant drop off to those backs 0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:16.279 because I didn't. Um. I mean, in fairness, the letter 0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:20.439 now he had seventy six catches and but Armstead caught 0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:24.120 the ball. He did have the one drop. He caught 0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:26.080 the ball out of the back. Here let's say, but 0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:29.120 I mean Leonard had over a thousand yards. Leonard had 0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:30.840 a good year. I'm gonna give him credit. I just 0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:34.400 don't think there's a significant amount of difference when I 0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:37.640 say that about most Backstead played. You think if Arms 0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:40.359 had played the same amount of reps that Leonard did 0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:42.000 the numbers, he would have had a thout. It would 0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:43.359 have a thousand yards. I don't know if he would 0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:45.759 have seventy catches or whatever Leonard had, but he would 0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:55.400 have had fifty. Interesting, and I don't know that. I 0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:59.239 mean it. Backs are so interchangeable. I want to go 0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:03.400 to go to the Eagles game yesterday. Jordan Howard wasn't playing, 0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:06.640 Miles Sanders got hurt. Boston Scottland in there and ran wild. 0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:10.120 They picked them up off the scrap heap. So you're saying, 0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:11.520 any back and go in there and do it, not 0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:13.680 any back. I just don't think the difference is that. 0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:15.600 You don't think there's that big a difference between Chris 0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:18.320 McCaffrey and that's different. Now you're talking about a thousand 0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:21.080 thousand guy. That's a different, entirely different animals. How about 0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:23.920 the backs in Seattle last night? They can go in anywhere, right, 0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:27.640 Marshawn Lynch, here he comes? How about man about Marshawn Lynch. 0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:29.600 He came in and rushed with three point under three 0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.040 yards per carry. Meanwhile, the other kid had six That 0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.000 you pick up in the fifth, sixth round is a 0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:37.239 rookie who was the better back in that game? Marsh 0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.080 Lynch hasn't played football like a year, but he's not 0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:43.160 a better But everybody's going crazy, Homer was a better 0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:47.439 player last night. Okay, but that's kind of the point 0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:49.839 to those guys that are that are around this time 0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:55.160 of year, there's a million of them. You know, certainly 0:41:55.239 --> 0:42:00.120 don't draft one fourth overall? Is there a back in 0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:04.279 the league today that you draft fourth overall? McCaffrey would 0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:06.319 be one of them, But even then, I wouldn't The 0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:10.120 position of the value of the position isn't there ton't. 0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:13.239 I'm not taking the back of that not if I 0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:15.000 need what if I needed? If I have a choice 0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:20.640 between Von Miller and Christian McCaffrey, who am I take it? Okay, 0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.239 I'm gonna go through every position. Okay, let's do this 0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:30.080 all right, Quarterback, You're always taking quarterback Julio Jones, Christian McCaffrey. 0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:32.319 The way the game is played, I'd rather that Julio Jones, 0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:36.839 George Kiddle, McCay. That one's tough for me, but i'd 0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:43.080 probably take McCaffrey, Kelsey or McCaffrey. No tight end, although 0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:44.680 there aren't a lot of tight ends, so it's tough. 0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:46.680 It's a tough position to fix. So it's a coin 0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:52.440 for you there. Yeah, Okay, Lane Johnson right tackle or 0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:54.319 one of the better I just say, because he's one 0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:57.720 of the better ones, or Mitchell Schwartz or I take 0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:03.439 I take the tackle, Zach Zack Martin and right guard, 0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:10.239 or Christian McCaffrey. I probably take McCaffrey, Rodney Hudson at 0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:12.880 center for the Raiders or any of the good centers 0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:18.200 out there, or Christian McCaffrey. I probably take a center, 0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:25.560 Quinton Nelson, quitt Nelson or McCaffrey. I probably take Quittin Nelson. 0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:27.680 I want my line, I can, I can run the 0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:33.360 ball off. My line is good, Tyrone Smith Smith for sure. Okay, alright, 0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:35.920 so we went through all those. Uh you already said 0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:44.400 von miller Um Aaron Donald, Aaron Donald or that's Donald. Okay, 0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:51.440 Bobby Bobby, Bobby Wagner or Christian McCaffrey. Bobby Wagner has 0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:56.600 played great this year. Okay, you know what I'm saying. Darius, 0:43:56.680 --> 0:44:03.640 Darius Leonard or christ McCaffrey. Probably take McCaffrey. Okay, uh, 0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:09.040 Stefan Gilmore and McCaffrey Gilmore. Who's the best safety in 0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:14.200 football right now? Durwin James or McCaffrey Derwin js. So 0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:17.640 that one's kind of that one's kind of closed safety, 0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:22.000 kind of close. But the value positions pass rusher, whether 0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:27.480 he's inside, outside tackle, center a great center, really you know, 0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:31.160 don't you You know how valuable those guys are. And 0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:35.200 then the big play receiver. I don't think that Michael 0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:42.760 Thomas and Christian McCaffrey, Michael Thomas. See, that's the thing. 0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.800 The only one I might disagree is is the receiver. 0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:50.680 Because a great running game, who can a guy McCaffrey 0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:54.200 that can catch it in the backfield? That's tough. If 0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:56.759 we look at the teams that can't have don't have that. 0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.640 Look at the Patriots. Imagine if they had Michael Thomas 0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:01.520 on their team. Go look at the teams that can't 0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:03.560 run the ball, Pete. The teams you can run the 0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:06.359 ball in the playoffs, they run the ball because their 0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:10.280 lines are good. All I'm saying is the difference between 0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:16.440 this running back and one and fifteen. For example, we 0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:19.560 came into the season thinking David Johnson was a top 0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:22.360 ten running back. He's not even the number one running 0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:25.200 back on his own team anymore. He might not be 0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:29.240 the second running back on his own team anymore. That's 0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:30.960 That's all I'm saying is I think the value of 0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:34.240 the position and the difference between one and twenty isn't 0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:36.640 that great. Whereas if you look through you go to 0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:39.399 Aaron Donald's position, and you go the difference between one 0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:43.240 and twenty. You're talking about Aaron Donald and David Bryant. 0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:46.279 So what are the what are the what are the 0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:49.359 what positions are you not taking in the top ten 0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:53.120 of a draft? You're not taking running back? Not taking 0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:56.680 running back? I'd be I'd be here's my philosophy on 0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:59.680 the guard unless he's unreal, And I'd be hard pressed 0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:01.440 to take the guard because I think you could take 0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:03.960 a college tackle in the third or fourth round and 0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:05.960 move him inside and make him a guard. I believe 0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:08.640 that I've seen it happen. It's happened all over the league. 0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:12.160 Guys like Yonda, Um, you know Zack Martin, all those 0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:13.920 guys they moved inside because they weren't good enough to 0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:17.640 play tackle, but they could play guard. 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If it's laundry night, 0:49:38.360 --> 0:49:57.759 it's got to be tied. They don't go on. You know, 0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:01.040 he puts it so much passing. Oh, he's only getting better. 0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:03.239 I mean he's just batching the surface. And you see it. 0:50:03.239 --> 0:50:06.279 I mean he plays. There was almost a nasty and 0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:10.440 he could change the day. Clare's Campbell discussing unique and 0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:13.880 got way after the game yesterday, t I a a 0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:17.200 banked field and welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour j P 0:50:17.360 --> 0:50:22.000 Shadrick Pete Prisco, Tony Vaselli. Jacks finished the season six 0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:25.879 and ten. Uh the that by the way, of course, 0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:29.040 the regular season over now, So that means the top 0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:33.640 twenty draft selections are and we know all the teams 0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:36.640 we're gonna play now next year. That's correct. Also, let's 0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:40.720 get to the draft. The first Cincinnati one, Washington, Detroit, 0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:45.759 the Giants, Dolphins, Chargers, Panthers, Cardinals, or eight. The Jaguars 0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:48.480 now have the ninth overall pick, so if we wo 0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:52.560 have overall pick via the Los Angeles Rams, so nine 0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:56.720 and twenty. If we were to lost that game, six six, 0:50:56.880 --> 0:51:00.440 I believe it could have been could have been six. 0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:05.799 Are you only win the game and not worry about 0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:07.320 it train or are you they lose the game for 0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:10.279 draft picks? It depends what had I have on You 0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:14.000 can change hands as a player or coach, I want 0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:16.839 to win the game, especially as a player, because like 0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:19.279 as a player, you don't care about draft picks or 0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:21.200 any of that nonsense. I mean, you just don't care. 0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:24.239 And and I never understood as a player how you 0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:27.400 go out on the field, especially in the game of football, 0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:30.719 not just like you better go hard, you better be physical, 0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:33.960 you better you know, go full speed. Otherwise bad things happen, 0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:37.360 people get hurt, you get hurt. And so as a player, 0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:39.759 I didn't care about the draft. And I think as 0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:41.880 a coach, especially when you're you know, fighting for your 0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:43.479 job and everything else, I don't think you care about 0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:47.000 the draft pick either. You want to win the GM. 0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:50.400 It's depending on where you sit. If you're a GM. 0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:53.040 I think who is solidified in their role and everything else. 0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:55.720 I think you're secretly in the back of your mind saying, 0:51:56.040 --> 0:51:58.000 if we lose this, I'll be okay with that, get 0:51:58.040 --> 0:52:03.839 a better draft pick. Owner fans, I, I would think 0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:06.480 you're want to as I think it's the GM and 0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:07.880 the owner of the team. You want to win that 0:52:07.920 --> 0:52:10.560 game just because winning is way better than losing. But 0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:12.440 then if you take the big picture in the in 0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:15.279 the account, you're saying, I'd much rather be picking six 0:52:15.320 --> 0:52:18.960 than nine. About if you're the Dolphins, you lose, you 0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:23.840 win five games to surprise everybody, and the tanking's all 0:52:23.880 --> 0:52:25.560 out of the window, and you still end up with 0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:28.680 the top five pick. That's a good season for the Dolphins. Well, 0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:31.680 but here's the other thing. You know, I think you 0:52:31.800 --> 0:52:35.640 agree with this unless there's that quarterback that you know 0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:38.640 you just want where you need to get him at 0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:42.399 one or two or you know, depending on the number 0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:47.799 of quarterbacks. Doesn't it more than anything about coming It's 0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:52.799 about picking the right guy. Because listen, Luke jocol number 0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:57.479 two overall pick, how did that work out? Not well? 0:52:57.600 --> 0:53:00.560 Not very good? That was bad? That was it a draft? 0:53:00.680 --> 0:53:02.239 I'm not saying I'm not even peking the draft. I'm 0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:05.080 just saying about getting the right guy. Traded back draft 0:53:05.080 --> 0:53:08.640 but didn't in the long run, didn't work out. It 0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:12.680 never did. Did he got a new deal? Okay, but 0:53:12.719 --> 0:53:20.640 it didn't correct. Uh Fowler, wrong guy got hurt. But 0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:22.759 it was never the right guy for this. It didn't 0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:24.640 work out. You trade him, got on a third or 0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:27.200 fifth round or whatever. It was third and fifth baby, 0:53:28.920 --> 0:53:32.560 Jalen Ramsey, great player, got two first rounders, but not here. 0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:37.400 He's not here? What about Tyson Allola? Yeah, I mean, 0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:39.440 you go through it. It's about picking the right guy 0:53:40.680 --> 0:53:43.359 more than anything. So whether you're six or nine, pick 0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:48.879 the right guy, meaning pick a good player, because all 0:53:48.880 --> 0:53:50.880 the time you've great players come in the middle of 0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:53.719 the first, end of the first Yes, you'd rather have 0:53:53.800 --> 0:53:56.560 higher picks. It gives you, you know, a better opportunity 0:53:56.600 --> 0:54:00.439 to pick the guy you want. But I I think 0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:05.120 you know outside the quarterback man, just get the right guy, 0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:07.799 the guy that fits what you want to do, that's 0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:11.560 a good player that loves football, Josh Allen and pick 0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:16.799 that guy Josh Allen's that seems like it. And he 0:54:16.840 --> 0:54:18.760 fell to them. I mean that was like a surprise. 0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:20.319 They didn't think they're going to get him. But you 0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:22.879 can go through the history of the draft for this 0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:27.319 team or any other team. Yes, if you're not in 0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:29.160 the playoffs, you want to have a higher pick without 0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:33.239 a doubt. But just just having a higher pick does 0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:36.480 not guarantee you you get the right guy. And we've 0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:39.800 seen that, and that's I'm not taking a shot at anybody. 0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:47.000 That's just that's a fact. And so I'd rather be six. 0:54:47.080 --> 0:54:50.719 But I felt good to win yesterday. So we're nine. 0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:55.239 Would you consider packaging picks to move up at all? No, 0:54:56.280 --> 0:54:59.279 you need two players instead of one. I think there's 0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:01.839 enough holes in this roster right now, and the roster 0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:05.440 has enough issues that you need multiple players, multiple starters. 0:55:05.520 --> 0:55:08.719 You need to fix starters. You have three picks in 0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:13.120 the first forty picks or forty one picks, right, Yes, 0:55:13.320 --> 0:55:15.240 three in the first forty one. You need three starters. 0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:18.040 You need to pick three starters with those guys. They 0:55:18.040 --> 0:55:21.359 have to be good starters next year. That's a lot. 0:55:22.719 --> 0:55:25.080 That's where I mean. When you have a bunch of 0:55:25.120 --> 0:55:29.960 draft picks that you picked no longer on your team, 0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:32.399 and yeah, I think you have to keep the picks. 0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:37.000 I don't think you package but I mean, I mean, 0:55:37.280 --> 0:55:40.440 you disagree you need three starters out of this draft. 0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:43.200 I don't think there's any question about that. To rebuild 0:55:43.200 --> 0:55:46.120 the foundation of the of the of the team for 0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:48.040 a quarterback, you're not doing if you have to get 0:55:48.080 --> 0:55:49.560 a name or do a lot of these guys and 0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:52.920 somehow Folds is not around. I don't know one of 0:55:52.960 --> 0:55:55.160 the rookies, one of the guys. You're not gonna give 0:55:55.239 --> 0:55:56.880 up your whole draft to go up to one to 0:55:56.920 --> 0:56:02.560 give Burrows. I already told you I think about uh 0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:07.520 to uh. I worry about the injuries. Herbert from Oregon 0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:10.800 is big arm guy, wildly inaccurate Eastan. You gotta do 0:56:10.800 --> 0:56:14.160 a lot of work on him, so you know how 0:56:14.200 --> 0:56:16.279 that always goes. Though they kind of talk him and 0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:18.400 then they end up at the top of the draft 0:56:18.400 --> 0:56:20.239 board on draft night. A lot of times they do, 0:56:20.680 --> 0:56:22.560 so I would not I don't think, I mean I'm 0:56:22.560 --> 0:56:24.440 gonna do the work. I would do the work on 0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:28.520 the quarterbacks. But I think I'm getting hopefully three starters 0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:32.800 with those top forty one picks. I'm starting to rebuild 0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:37.920 the roster, rebuild some depth, and uh, see what and 0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:39.480 see what meant you can do this year and if that, 0:56:39.680 --> 0:56:41.680 and then maybe I have to draft the quarterback next year. 0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:47.280 Our one in the books, Our two on deck. We'll 0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:51.040 recap all the top news of the day on the 0:56:51.080 --> 0:56:52.920 locker clean out day, we'll hear from some of the 0:56:52.960 --> 0:56:55.560 Jaguars in the locker room. We'll hear from the quarterback 0:56:55.600 --> 0:56:59.600 gardner Minshew. Coming up, we'll discuss the Jaguars opponents and 0:56:59.600 --> 0:57:02.680 we'll get your social media questions. Second Hour coming up, 0:57:02.680 --> 0:57:05.200 a Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans on 0:57:05.239 --> 0:57:13.120 the Jaguars Digital Network. Tito's Haymade Vodka is America's original 0:57:13.160 --> 0:57:17.240 craft vodka. 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He's put up 1:00:26.680 --> 1:00:29.840 better numbers or similar numbers for guys like Kyl Martray, 1:00:29.920 --> 1:00:34.600 Ban Joe and being top ten guys better. Uh so 1:00:35.160 --> 1:00:38.360 it obviously means something to do to be able to 1:00:38.360 --> 1:00:41.120 bring I don't know, Um, you know, obviously, I think 1:00:41.120 --> 1:00:43.000 the biggest thing for me is, um, you help my 1:00:43.080 --> 1:00:45.960 team win. And I did that better name Ricky quarterback. 1:00:46.040 --> 1:00:47.680 So I guess we fired up a little bit. But 1:00:47.840 --> 1:00:50.000 you know, you kind of can't help. But you know, 1:00:50.200 --> 1:00:53.920 compare yourself to those guys, um, you know, especially when 1:00:54.080 --> 1:00:56.960 they get taken for you. Um, you know, the kind 1:00:56.960 --> 1:00:58.840 of can't always have that chip, you know. I still 1:00:58.880 --> 1:01:01.400 remember guys that got offered, you know, at the school 1:01:01.400 --> 1:01:02.880 as I wanted to go to, and I didn't get 1:01:02.920 --> 1:01:05.720 those up, Jenny, so I still you know, remember that 1:01:07.160 --> 1:01:10.960 Gardner meant you in the locker room today discussing his 1:01:11.120 --> 1:01:17.720 thoughts on his statistics and wins versus other rookie quarterbacks 1:01:18.160 --> 1:01:21.640 totals this year. A second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour underway. 1:01:21.720 --> 1:01:24.520 J P. Shadrick, Tony was Selly, Pete Prisco. This is 1:01:24.560 --> 1:01:27.240 our final Monday show of the season. We won't have 1:01:27.280 --> 1:01:32.000 any more after Thank goodness. By the way, I like 1:01:32.200 --> 1:01:35.720 his cockiness and it's pretty. He's got a little something 1:01:35.760 --> 1:01:38.080 to him, right, Pete, I like it. I like it. 1:01:38.120 --> 1:01:41.520 I would said the same thing better. You're just as 1:01:41.520 --> 1:01:44.840 good as a better you know. It's just and they 1:01:44.880 --> 1:01:46.480 took it a little shot. I won more than any 1:01:46.520 --> 1:01:48.800 of them. I think that's great. I think he believes 1:01:48.800 --> 1:01:51.520 in himself and I think that's good. Quick note a 1:01:51.520 --> 1:01:56.720 couple of quick notes. Number nine draft picks in recent years, 1:01:58.280 --> 1:02:06.440 two of note Luke Keikley, Tyron Smith. Can we have 1:02:06.520 --> 1:02:12.000 those two right now? Yeah? You wish? And the last 1:02:12.040 --> 1:02:17.760 time the Jaguars picked number nine, you know they picked No, 1:02:19.120 --> 1:02:24.040 I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Tyson Nope, he was ten. 1:02:25.120 --> 1:02:33.400 Reggie Williams. Wow, I think I'll take keikly you think, 1:02:34.720 --> 1:02:36.480 I mean there's I just look to see if what 1:02:36.600 --> 1:02:39.080 kind of player you get in the nine spot. There's 1:02:39.120 --> 1:02:41.400 a nice mix there. You get two great players like that. 1:02:41.680 --> 1:02:43.360 You have a couple like Leonard Floyd was in the 1:02:43.440 --> 1:02:45.120 nine spot. He's not a bad player, he's not a 1:02:45.160 --> 1:02:48.000 great player. Uh D Milner was kind of a bust 1:02:48.000 --> 1:02:50.760 in that spot. So you get a mix of guys 1:02:50.800 --> 1:02:52.560 at number nine. But those are the two best in 1:02:52.560 --> 1:02:57.800 the last fifteen years. So what do is gardner? Men? 1:02:57.960 --> 1:03:02.280 You need to do in your mind to be the 1:03:02.360 --> 1:03:05.000 guy to be a franchise quarterback that you can go 1:03:05.040 --> 1:03:07.200 win because all that matters. I mean, here's you know, 1:03:07.280 --> 1:03:10.920 everyone says you know, well you can win. You know 1:03:11.160 --> 1:03:14.080 has mints you Is he the guys that folds? Here's 1:03:14.120 --> 1:03:17.919 my question. Is that individual who's playing quarterback for you? 1:03:18.480 --> 1:03:21.439 Does he have the ability and the capabilities to win 1:03:21.880 --> 1:03:26.840 a trophy? We're you're sitting there holding the party trophy 1:03:26.880 --> 1:03:28.240 at the end of the year. Can he win the 1:03:28.240 --> 1:03:30.120 big one? Can he get you there and can he 1:03:30.160 --> 1:03:35.640 win it? Well? I think he'd have to have a 1:03:35.640 --> 1:03:37.920 bunch of stuff around him. Go right. I I like 1:03:38.040 --> 1:03:42.120 what I saw from him yesterday more than any game 1:03:42.120 --> 1:03:45.760 I've seen him play, including the early ones. I thought 1:03:45.800 --> 1:03:48.960 he was more decisive the ball came out, he read 1:03:49.000 --> 1:03:52.880 the field better. It was vertical to Pete, Yeah, it 1:03:52.960 --> 1:03:56.080 was much. This was the game that me and I 1:03:56.160 --> 1:03:57.960 told you last week. I thought, I don't know, he's 1:03:57.960 --> 1:04:00.760 a backup. He stood in there, he the throws. He 1:04:00.920 --> 1:04:04.800 just looked much more comfortable in this game. And he 1:04:04.840 --> 1:04:07.120 looked like a guy that could be a starting quarterback 1:04:07.120 --> 1:04:10.439 in the NFL, and and up until yesterday, I wasn't 1:04:10.440 --> 1:04:12.680 so sure about that. Give me two things he has 1:04:12.760 --> 1:04:17.400 to improve to be pocket presence first and foremost for me, 1:04:17.440 --> 1:04:19.680 And by that I mean the fanom pressure at times 1:04:20.120 --> 1:04:22.040 he felt and yesterday he was better at it, but 1:04:22.080 --> 1:04:27.520 you still see glimpses of it. That's number one. Um 1:04:27.760 --> 1:04:31.600 Number two is probably identifying the coverages because I thought 1:04:32.000 --> 1:04:34.280 there were times where he got tricked at points in 1:04:34.280 --> 1:04:37.160 this season, and that comes with playing. I think as 1:04:37.160 --> 1:04:39.520 he plays, he's a smart kid. He'll get better at it. 1:04:40.720 --> 1:04:42.800 Is your arm strength still a knock? Yeah, that's the 1:04:42.800 --> 1:04:44.640 one thing. I still think his arm needs get a 1:04:44.680 --> 1:04:46.800 little bit stronger so you can drive the ball down 1:04:46.800 --> 1:04:49.920 the middle of the field. This was the first game 1:04:50.600 --> 1:04:52.240 in the second half that we saw him work in 1:04:52.240 --> 1:04:55.200 the middle of the field between the hashes. Do you 1:04:55.640 --> 1:04:57.600 do you think that he doesn't work the middle of 1:04:57.600 --> 1:04:59.479 the hashes because he knows his arm isn't that good. 1:05:00.080 --> 1:05:02.080 Either that or he can't see it. You know, he's 1:05:02.080 --> 1:05:04.880 not the biggest guy. You know. You know Drew Brees, 1:05:05.680 --> 1:05:07.400 you ever talked to, you know, listen to Drew Brees. 1:05:07.480 --> 1:05:09.840 He sees it through lanes and he learned to be 1:05:09.880 --> 1:05:12.400 able to see through lanes and and he's so good 1:05:12.400 --> 1:05:14.480 and he knows what's happening down the field. He can 1:05:14.520 --> 1:05:16.800 anticipate and see it. And he told me through one 1:05:16.880 --> 1:05:18.800 year he threw a hundred and something passes without seeing 1:05:18.800 --> 1:05:22.439 the receiver because he knows the coverage and he knows 1:05:22.440 --> 1:05:24.880 where the receiver's supposed to be, and they rep it 1:05:24.920 --> 1:05:26.880 and rep and repping. I think you got to do 1:05:26.960 --> 1:05:28.920 that with Minshew. It's got to get to something like that. 1:05:28.960 --> 1:05:31.400 He's got to be one of those cerebral quarterbacks and 1:05:31.720 --> 1:05:35.440 are asked to get stronger. You're right, excuse me, no 1:05:35.600 --> 1:05:37.880 question about that. That's the only I mean, that's the 1:05:37.920 --> 1:05:41.720 big question I have with Gardner is can he develop 1:05:41.760 --> 1:05:43.480 a little more. It's not like it's not like he's 1:05:43.520 --> 1:05:46.120 a super weak arm, but you just get that one 1:05:46.200 --> 1:05:48.320 extra notch where he can drive it in the middle 1:05:48.320 --> 1:05:52.160 of the field. And can he get proficient enough and 1:05:52.280 --> 1:05:54.880 reading defenses because he's not always gonna see it over 1:05:54.920 --> 1:05:56.680 the middle because all the bodies in front of the 1:05:56.800 --> 1:05:59.320 big offensive linem because he's not a big man. Where 1:05:59.400 --> 1:06:03.600 he can get so proficient and understanding defenses and see 1:06:03.640 --> 1:06:05.640 it through the lanes and be able to work the 1:06:05.760 --> 1:06:07.880 entire field. How do you work on arm strength? Doesn't 1:06:07.920 --> 1:06:10.560 weight room stuff? Is it on the throwing? I mean 1:06:11.880 --> 1:06:14.400 it worked for him. Whatever he did, Yeah, whatever. I'd 1:06:14.400 --> 1:06:16.360 start talking to Drew Brees, Tom Brady, those type of 1:06:16.400 --> 1:06:18.520 guys say hey, what do you guys do? Because well 1:06:18.560 --> 1:06:20.560 they don't. You remember Drew Brees came out of Ford 1:06:20.720 --> 1:06:22.640 with the knock that his arm wasn't good enough and 1:06:22.720 --> 1:06:25.400 then he tore his rotator cuff and labor ham and 1:06:25.440 --> 1:06:27.400 everything else and he had to rebuild his arm and 1:06:27.840 --> 1:06:30.440 he was the bionic man. Yeah he's not. And Drew's 1:06:30.480 --> 1:06:32.480 never had the strongest arm, but it's good enough. He 1:06:32.520 --> 1:06:35.440 can drive the ball down the field. Yeah, you have 1:06:35.560 --> 1:06:37.120 to be able to drive the ball. I think the 1:06:37.160 --> 1:06:39.800 first and foremost that's number one, and that you're right, Tony, 1:06:39.880 --> 1:06:42.320 that's a big issue, But you gotta mid pocket presence 1:06:42.800 --> 1:06:47.120 and deciphering defenses are two other problems for him. Well. 1:06:47.240 --> 1:06:50.880 The the recognition of defenses you have to believe and 1:06:51.200 --> 1:06:54.760 because he's smart, is going to improve with experience. He'll 1:06:54.840 --> 1:06:57.560 just have seen things and he is very cerebral. Um. 1:06:58.480 --> 1:07:01.240 The pocket presence, yeah, I know what you're saying, Pete, 1:07:01.280 --> 1:07:03.560 but I thought it was great yesterday. I thought, at 1:07:03.640 --> 1:07:05.120 times at the beginning the year, he's very good. He 1:07:05.200 --> 1:07:08.640 went on, he went to a stretch where he was 1:07:09.040 --> 1:07:11.280 trusting his legs too much, so it was real quick, 1:07:12.120 --> 1:07:14.680 and yesterday you saw him take a deep breath, go 1:07:14.840 --> 1:07:18.640 through the progressions and run much less than we had 1:07:18.680 --> 1:07:21.160 seen leading up to the game against the Colts. It 1:07:21.280 --> 1:07:24.320 was also protected better. I thought, well, that helps you 1:07:24.360 --> 1:07:27.120 gotta Yeah, that's why we're talking about you probably need 1:07:27.160 --> 1:07:31.680 a draft it offensive line maybe too. We were talking 1:07:31.680 --> 1:07:33.960 about this on the postgame show last night of the 1:07:34.080 --> 1:07:41.080 offensive lineman. How many you're back starting next year? Slender 1:07:41.160 --> 1:07:46.400 and Taylor, I think Norwell's coming back. I don't know that. 1:07:46.600 --> 1:07:48.800 I think he's coming back. He might have to take 1:07:48.800 --> 1:07:53.000 a cut or restructuring or skimming or whatever they want 1:07:53.040 --> 1:07:55.160 to call it. Right now, he has to be willing 1:07:55.200 --> 1:07:58.800 to do that. But if you go look, you gotta 1:07:58.800 --> 1:08:01.760 look at his overall grades. Um, I think it wasn't bad. 1:08:01.880 --> 1:08:05.560 It wasn't it was it was above average. I think 1:08:06.280 --> 1:08:09.680 either you draft a left tackle, move Cam inside or 1:08:09.720 --> 1:08:12.720 let him compete for the left tackle job, or if 1:08:12.800 --> 1:08:14.640 you don't get a left tackle in the draft that 1:08:14.720 --> 1:08:17.680 you're think it can be that starter. I would move 1:08:17.760 --> 1:08:20.920 Will Richardson out to left tackle, where he started the 1:08:20.960 --> 1:08:22.599 first two weeks of the season. I thought he played 1:08:22.640 --> 1:08:25.599 pretty well, and I'd make an open competition between Cam 1:08:25.720 --> 1:08:30.640 Robinson and Will works Like. I just looked at a 1:08:30.720 --> 1:08:33.240 mock draft that had them picking number nine and they 1:08:33.280 --> 1:08:36.280 had him taking Ceedee Lamb with Andrew Thomas the left 1:08:36.280 --> 1:08:38.400 tackle on at Georgia on the board. I can't see 1:08:38.479 --> 1:08:42.760 that happening in a million years. Um, I would not 1:08:42.920 --> 1:08:47.680 think so. I think that would be a mistake. And 1:08:47.760 --> 1:08:50.280 then they had him taken a corner with the pick. 1:08:53.160 --> 1:08:54.640 I mean, you look at this, you look at this 1:08:54.680 --> 1:08:57.120 team right now, they couldn't stop the run because of 1:08:57.200 --> 1:09:00.360 the front seven. I think the linebackers aren't very good 1:09:00.439 --> 1:09:04.519 right now, and you have a front with the lost 1:09:04.600 --> 1:09:07.679 Darius and he's getting older. We talked about class getting older. 1:09:08.479 --> 1:09:10.960 Your unique is not a big run stuffer. I think 1:09:11.080 --> 1:09:14.559 Josh Allen can be outstanding at it. Uh Taman Bryant. 1:09:14.680 --> 1:09:18.280 Bryant's is two up and down. Still, uh showed some 1:09:18.400 --> 1:09:21.559 flashes of some good stuff. Avery had his best year 1:09:21.600 --> 1:09:24.960 when he was a rotational player, not the starter his 1:09:25.080 --> 1:09:28.679 best years, So I really think you need big people. 1:09:29.800 --> 1:09:33.479 I would focus on the middle of the defense, defensive tackles, 1:09:34.920 --> 1:09:42.360 middle linebacker, safety. So wait, so you're you're drafting a 1:09:42.439 --> 1:09:45.720 middle linebacker and admitting that the paying paying Miles Jack 1:09:45.840 --> 1:09:48.240 was a mistake. Then well, I'm moving him to Will 1:09:48.880 --> 1:09:50.680 because I don't think he's the middle lineback. Then you're 1:09:50.720 --> 1:09:54.439 admitting that drafting Quincy Williams was a mistake. I'm moving 1:09:54.520 --> 1:09:57.479 him to Will. I don't think he's a middle linebacker, 1:09:57.680 --> 1:09:59.759 and I think you need to draft a middle linebacker. 1:10:01.000 --> 1:10:04.960 Well Tony, if they go to a three four hybrid look, 1:10:06.560 --> 1:10:08.639 he might too be we say he might be too 1:10:08.720 --> 1:10:13.800 little for the inside on that defense, but Lavante David 1:10:13.880 --> 1:10:16.040 made a nice transition to playing it in Tampa for 1:10:16.160 --> 1:10:18.800 top bowls. Who you're saying, who might be too little 1:10:18.840 --> 1:10:23.160 for that? Jack Jack Pete? Have you seen him lately? 1:10:23.439 --> 1:10:27.679 There's nothing little about him. He was actually but yeah, 1:10:28.120 --> 1:10:32.200 he's gained some weight. Uh, there's nothing with another story nothing. Yeah, 1:10:32.240 --> 1:10:34.760 it looked like he did. And I know he's had 1:10:34.800 --> 1:10:38.639 problems with that in the pass. So but so could 1:10:38.680 --> 1:10:41.400 you play him in that role next to another linebacker 1:10:41.520 --> 1:10:44.320 with go Way and and Alan as your edge guys 1:10:44.360 --> 1:10:47.600 in that situation and you would play and if you 1:10:47.640 --> 1:10:50.320 brought class down, he would be one of the down guys. 1:10:51.200 --> 1:10:53.719 Avery Jones might be one and maybe Tavin Bryan would 1:10:53.720 --> 1:10:55.840 be the other. So you're now you're so are you 1:10:55.960 --> 1:10:58.679 saying if you were you'd get rid of Todd Wash 1:11:02.200 --> 1:11:06.080 I'd consider it. And I don't think if you're Doug 1:11:06.120 --> 1:11:08.120 Brown you can get rid of your coordinators if you're back, 1:11:09.040 --> 1:11:11.680 because I think it's really hard to hire top end 1:11:11.720 --> 1:11:16.840 coordinators if they know it's a one year, proven type 1:11:16.880 --> 1:11:21.479 of deal. And what if that's what they want in 1:11:21.680 --> 1:11:23.120 terms of him to do is to get rid of 1:11:23.200 --> 1:11:26.599 his coordinators and go find new ones again. I think 1:11:26.680 --> 1:11:29.959 it's hard if you don't have a multi year commitment 1:11:31.120 --> 1:11:34.240 to go get the good coaches because the really the 1:11:34.320 --> 1:11:38.680 top end coaches have options, well, the top end ones do. 1:11:38.920 --> 1:11:43.160 But San Francisco took a to Robert Sala off the 1:11:43.720 --> 1:11:45.720 off the jag Wars thing and made him into a 1:11:45.800 --> 1:11:50.280 heck of a coach. He's getting now, he's getting now, 1:11:50.360 --> 1:11:54.240 he's getting head coaching interviews, second times at chart. I'm 1:11:54.240 --> 1:11:59.320 good job beaton So I love that. It's not I 1:11:59.400 --> 1:12:04.960 know what it is. It's solid, but you know what 1:12:05.000 --> 1:12:07.120 I'm saying that that to me is like somebody you 1:12:07.160 --> 1:12:11.600 could find somebody like that, will you to take a 1:12:11.640 --> 1:12:15.160 one year deal. I probably won't take a one year deal, 1:12:15.200 --> 1:12:18.280 but if he's good enough, they might keep hell and 1:12:18.360 --> 1:12:22.800 might make him the head coach. Yeah maybe, I mean 1:12:24.000 --> 1:12:26.680 let me see what. Yeah, Josh Allen yesterday, how many 1:12:26.720 --> 1:12:33.000 snaps do you think I would say you're low? It's 1:12:33.040 --> 1:12:36.320 thirty two. It's not enough. Well, you did get a stinger. 1:12:36.360 --> 1:12:38.920 He missed a couple of series. I think there are 1:12:38.960 --> 1:12:41.519 fifty six snaps on defense. By the way, Yeah, so 1:12:41.600 --> 1:12:45.080 he played, he played, he played yesterday was okay, yesterday 1:12:45.200 --> 1:12:47.880 was better because not a lot of guys played that 1:12:48.000 --> 1:12:53.320 many snaps. Will you admit that? Will you say admit 1:12:55.360 --> 1:13:01.160 like we want answers? Sony was good yesterday. This is 1:13:01.200 --> 1:13:03.080 the only game I haven't watched the tape of all year. 1:13:03.760 --> 1:13:05.680 But you were at the game. You saw him. I mean, 1:13:05.760 --> 1:13:09.000 look good. He had a couple of splash players. Absolutely. 1:13:10.160 --> 1:13:12.720 To me, his is a consistency issue, and he got 1:13:12.800 --> 1:13:15.120 better throughout the year. So, I mean, there's no doubt 1:13:15.120 --> 1:13:17.439 about that force fumble. I don't even think he saw 1:13:17.479 --> 1:13:19.800 it come out. He was getting ready to dance he 1:13:19.880 --> 1:13:24.080 kicked it. Quick question, are Ronnie Harrison and Jared Wilson 1:13:24.160 --> 1:13:26.800 is starting safeties in two thousand and twenty. I think 1:13:26.840 --> 1:13:31.680 you got a draft a safety. I agree. So you 1:13:31.760 --> 1:13:35.960 need a corner, a safety, a line middle, linebacker, and 1:13:36.080 --> 1:13:38.599 a big body on defense. Might as well just overhaul 1:13:38.640 --> 1:13:43.560 the whole damn thing. That's where we are. Let's what 1:13:43.680 --> 1:13:49.439 you need on offense, it's a line tight end, maybe 1:13:49.479 --> 1:13:54.840 two Titans. You need a back or two at least 1:13:54.880 --> 1:14:00.240 one back, wide receiver, playmaker, wide receiver, movie I wide 1:14:00.280 --> 1:14:04.200 receivers down the line. For me, the Jones kid looked 1:14:04.200 --> 1:14:08.840 like a big body guy or something in the last 1:14:09.560 --> 1:14:14.599 eight months around there. It didn't stand out to me, Pete, 1:14:14.640 --> 1:14:18.120 but I was, you know, maybe how do he look 1:14:18.200 --> 1:14:19.800 like he was decent in the run game. He's a 1:14:19.840 --> 1:14:21.960 good he's a good run blocker. It was always the book. 1:14:22.160 --> 1:14:26.000 He's a very good run blocker. So maybe another maybe 1:14:26.000 --> 1:14:28.880 another tight end. And but you need you need someone 1:14:29.000 --> 1:14:31.280 dynamic that worked. You know, in the perfect world, you 1:14:31.400 --> 1:14:33.360 have your run blocker, let's say Charles Jones, and you 1:14:33.560 --> 1:14:36.760 have a you know, a good hybrid, a guy who 1:14:36.800 --> 1:14:42.280 can is a sufficient blocker, but can really stress of defense. Uh, 1:14:42.720 --> 1:14:45.080 in the past game, let's come back the way Andrew 1:14:45.160 --> 1:14:49.439 Norwell real quick. That's great. Highest to the offensive players. 1:14:50.439 --> 1:14:56.719 Oh yeah, no, yesterday. There you have it. 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That's when I 1:19:03.280 --> 1:19:05.720 was the gold places next year, whoever gonna be here, man, 1:19:05.800 --> 1:19:08.360 put the work in this what could be? How every 1:19:08.400 --> 1:19:11.200 game shill best in the busy game home. You're winning 1:19:11.240 --> 1:19:13.759 the busy games. You wanted a busion, You're gonna playoffs 1:19:13.800 --> 1:19:16.519 to give a stuff a chance. I appreciate everybody here, man, 1:19:18.160 --> 1:19:22.960 every family, draw, every family. We stayed together through it all, 1:19:23.280 --> 1:19:27.679 and I appreciate you last time a family all three. 1:19:30.560 --> 1:19:34.000 It's in the locker room yesterday after the Jaguars win, 1:19:34.120 --> 1:19:37.479 Doug Marone and then Calais Campbell breaking the team down. 1:19:37.760 --> 1:19:43.320 Jaguars happy hour continues. We're also family here. That family 1:19:43.439 --> 1:19:46.920 is breaking up. This family stays together. That's right. Uh? 1:19:47.680 --> 1:19:50.599 Do you buy the carryover of winning the last game? 1:19:50.640 --> 1:19:57.680 And no, no, never, it's different teams. How could it 1:19:57.800 --> 1:20:02.360 carry over? Space contorted like a like you just said. 1:20:02.960 --> 1:20:06.280 You used to say that all the time. I got no, Tom, 1:20:06.360 --> 1:20:10.840 it doesn't carry over, doesn't. I don't think any either. 1:20:12.160 --> 1:20:17.120 It feels good. Yeah, and you go into the off season, Okay, 1:20:17.200 --> 1:20:19.640 we want a game? Does it? Would you rather be 1:20:19.760 --> 1:20:22.519 eight Nate and lose the last one or your record 1:20:22.600 --> 1:20:24.640 what it is now and win that last one? Come on? 1:20:25.640 --> 1:20:29.040 Doesn't carry over? So the teams that losing the postseason 1:20:29.160 --> 1:20:33.040 that carries over to No, it does. None of it 1:20:33.120 --> 1:20:37.760 carries over. It's it's entirely different teams. They're how many 1:20:37.800 --> 1:20:39.720 guys are gonna be starting in the same spot going 1:20:39.760 --> 1:20:48.040 in the next year. Let's go through it. Okay, starting 1:20:48.120 --> 1:20:51.320 quarterbacks going to be yet defense first, I don't think 1:20:51.360 --> 1:20:53.800 boy Boy will not be back. I do not think. 1:20:54.960 --> 1:20:56.840 I think one of the two safeties will be starting. 1:20:57.960 --> 1:21:02.680 One of them. I Trey Herndon will be starting. I 1:21:02.720 --> 1:21:06.360 think two. D J. Hayden will be your nickel. That's three. 1:21:07.320 --> 1:21:13.280 I think uh Josh Allen, four, Tavin is gonna be starting. 1:21:13.960 --> 1:21:21.040 Five Miles Miles Jack at a different position at will. Okay, um, 1:21:21.520 --> 1:21:23.360 and I'm not gonna name a three of the five 1:21:23.439 --> 1:21:35.240 offensive linemen, we'll say three, nine, uh chark ten for 1:21:35.439 --> 1:21:42.080 net eleven. That's it. So it's entirely Gibertine. And say, well, 1:21:42.160 --> 1:21:45.040 one of the quarterbacks, the quarterback who's starting is on 1:21:45.120 --> 1:21:48.960 the roster, So eleven, let's say eleven or twelve, right, 1:21:50.080 --> 1:21:53.560 not a lot for carry over. It's a lot of 1:21:53.600 --> 1:21:56.040 new a lot of new faces. By the way, you 1:21:56.120 --> 1:21:59.240 asked me, if Norwell was the highest rated offensive player 1:22:00.120 --> 1:22:06.280 is not for the season? Who is Pete Linder? Brandon Linder? 1:22:06.880 --> 1:22:10.000 The number two ranked offensive player is for the season 1:22:10.120 --> 1:22:15.840 was DJ Chark. Worst grade of all the players on 1:22:15.960 --> 1:22:20.439 the offense went to of the starters. They gave well 1:22:20.520 --> 1:22:24.439 Cam Robinson at a terrible grade. He had by far 1:22:24.560 --> 1:22:27.840 the worst grade. But A. J. Cann's grade wasn't good, 1:22:28.439 --> 1:22:34.040 and they gave Taylor a bad grade. Who's the highest 1:22:34.120 --> 1:22:40.800 rated defensive player for the season. It's easy place, Yeah, 1:22:40.840 --> 1:22:44.040 it's easy. Who second? I bet to Trey? Herndon's up there, 1:22:44.040 --> 1:22:51.040 pretty high. He's not He's number one. Klaas number two. 1:22:52.360 --> 1:22:55.879 Here we go. Jackson will have at it. Davin Bryant 1:22:58.240 --> 1:23:05.840 number three, DJ Aiden number four. No. Number three is 1:23:06.000 --> 1:23:09.320 unique and Gagway. Number four is d J. Hayden. Number 1:23:09.439 --> 1:23:14.120 five is um the rest of all read. So I'm 1:23:14.160 --> 1:23:19.000 trying to look you said, Trey Herndon. No, not even close. 1:23:20.040 --> 1:23:24.439 So I'm not gonna get the PFF. Like, I think 1:23:24.479 --> 1:23:27.240 they're great, that they're analytics, like all the data they 1:23:27.360 --> 1:23:31.640 put together, trends, and they always has the preface it 1:23:31.720 --> 1:23:34.720 by saying that I do. But however, they're grades. I 1:23:34.880 --> 1:23:36.960 think it's hard to grade a player when you don't 1:23:37.000 --> 1:23:40.160 know what their assignment is. But you can look at 1:23:40.200 --> 1:23:41.760 the body of work and say this guy is in 1:23:41.840 --> 1:23:45.679 the minus for the season, you would David Brian wouldn't 1:23:45.720 --> 1:23:48.479 be the number two player on that defense in any way, 1:23:48.560 --> 1:23:50.360 shape or form. No, that's my point. If you look 1:23:50.360 --> 1:23:53.479 at the defense, no one's gonna say the second best 1:23:53.520 --> 1:23:55.760 player on the defense is Tavin Bryant or the guy 1:23:55.760 --> 1:23:59.839 who had the second best year on defense. Okay, here's 1:24:00.040 --> 1:24:05.960 even better, the second best run defensive grade on the 1:24:06.040 --> 1:24:10.200 team with the Tavin Bryant. Well, they didn't none of 1:24:10.280 --> 1:24:14.280 them played well against the run this year, but run 1:24:14.520 --> 1:24:18.519 defensive grade. But that's it. Let's get to some social questions. UM. 1:24:18.680 --> 1:24:21.400 Let's start off with at J Matt Moore. I think 1:24:21.439 --> 1:24:23.680 the case can be made that minshe played better than 1:24:23.800 --> 1:24:26.040 all the first round quarterbacks, while he's certainly has been 1:24:26.160 --> 1:24:29.160 rather inconsistent in times bad. Do you think that says 1:24:29.200 --> 1:24:31.400 something about his ceiling? What would each of you do 1:24:31.439 --> 1:24:33.960 about the quarterback situation if you were GM? We touched 1:24:34.000 --> 1:24:36.920 on this earlier, but let's rehash it again. Pete, what 1:24:37.000 --> 1:24:42.160 would you do? I would try and get Folds to retire, 1:24:42.880 --> 1:24:46.720 Please Nick, retire, go spend time with the family. That 1:24:46.760 --> 1:24:49.640 would be my first priority. If he wouldn't do that, 1:24:50.040 --> 1:24:52.840 then I would try and trade him. If I couldn't 1:24:52.880 --> 1:24:55.599 trade him, then I'd go to camp with those two 1:24:55.720 --> 1:24:58.720 and go compete for the job with Minshew taken the 1:24:58.760 --> 1:25:03.800 first snaps total, you look exhausted. Well, I mean, Pete 1:25:03.920 --> 1:25:06.200 is like wishing why would he retire? Pete, He's not 1:25:06.200 --> 1:25:09.240 gonna walk away from money? Come on, I'm not saying 1:25:09.320 --> 1:25:12.160 he is. I'm saying I would hope he would. I know, 1:25:12.240 --> 1:25:14.320 but that's why you're you're a bad GM. That's dumb. 1:25:15.040 --> 1:25:16.800 That's a good GM. You're getting that money off the 1:25:16.840 --> 1:25:19.080 books at the great GM. No, but you're hoping. You 1:25:19.120 --> 1:25:22.040 don't have a plan Hope is not a plan. Pete Hope. 1:25:22.080 --> 1:25:24.360 It's a good thing. My plan wouldn't have included signing 1:25:24.439 --> 1:25:28.680 into that stupid contract you have him now. Um, I 1:25:28.760 --> 1:25:30.200 think you're going to camp with both of them. I 1:25:30.200 --> 1:25:32.040 don't think I'm not going to trade a draft pick 1:25:32.080 --> 1:25:35.559 for someone to take a salary. No way, you wouldn't 1:25:36.080 --> 1:25:41.640 four to take a salary. Five. You just said you 1:25:41.640 --> 1:25:44.360 wouldn't trade a draft pick. I got you already negotiating 1:25:44.400 --> 1:25:50.880 your down six seven. Um, I give up a five 1:25:50.960 --> 1:25:53.519 for I'm going to camp. I'm going to camp. Mentionoos 1:25:53.520 --> 1:25:57.080 the starter, but it's a competitions who wins it up? Okay, 1:25:57.880 --> 1:26:01.280 but then you go into the season. No, I'm naming 1:26:01.320 --> 1:26:04.360 my starter week three, preseason, and that's the guy. We're 1:26:04.360 --> 1:26:07.320 not doing this. You know, he's not looking over his shoulder, 1:26:07.360 --> 1:26:09.160 and we're not doing this Merry brand stuff. And I 1:26:09.240 --> 1:26:11.479 tell the guys going in, whoever wins it, you're the 1:26:11.520 --> 1:26:15.840 guy for the year. How many of these quarterback competitions 1:26:15.880 --> 1:26:21.439 are actually real competitions? Um, I think it's the good 1:26:21.439 --> 1:26:23.360 places they are. I mean, I'll go back to Russell 1:26:23.400 --> 1:26:26.720 Wilson beat out uh, the kid from Green Bay. What 1:26:26.880 --> 1:26:33.920 was his name flat beat him out. Well, they're real. 1:26:34.680 --> 1:26:38.720 They're particularly real when you don't have one. I mean 1:26:39.439 --> 1:26:42.880 in Jacksonville doesn't have one yet, so they gotta find him. 1:26:42.920 --> 1:26:45.600 So that's why it's a It will be a legitimate competition. 1:26:45.800 --> 1:26:48.599 But I'm with Tony. The guy who wins it can't 1:26:48.600 --> 1:26:51.080 be getting yanked in and out and playing tight because 1:26:51.120 --> 1:26:55.720 he's looking over his shoulder. It's his job. Period. Let's 1:26:55.760 --> 1:26:59.559 move forward. Next question at Hodari eleven if con let's 1:26:59.560 --> 1:27:01.439 go m on, what coach do you believe will be 1:27:01.479 --> 1:27:04.040 the best for the organization. What was the biggest blunder 1:27:04.400 --> 1:27:07.240 this past year. I'm not gonna do that because I 1:27:07.280 --> 1:27:10.760 don't like talking about other coaches taking a job that 1:27:10.920 --> 1:27:13.200 is not vacant, especially when it's in our own backyard. 1:27:14.320 --> 1:27:16.720 I will, I will, Okay, I won't, So let me 1:27:16.800 --> 1:27:19.960 finish Pete. You know Doug Barron's head coach. Um. I 1:27:20.000 --> 1:27:22.400 think Doug Barone is a good coach. I think he 1:27:22.720 --> 1:27:24.800 is a good you know, And you think he's still 1:27:24.880 --> 1:27:26.439 going to be the head I still think he's gonna 1:27:26.439 --> 1:27:27.920 be that coach. I'm not gonna let mean, that's a 1:27:28.120 --> 1:27:30.479 dumb question for me. It's a fair question. I just 1:27:30.520 --> 1:27:33.880 don't like it. What was the biggest blunder? Then? Where 1:27:33.920 --> 1:27:37.320 do you want to start? Um nick Foles signing Nick 1:27:37.360 --> 1:27:42.360 Foles the biggest blunder by far nick Foles? What do 1:27:42.400 --> 1:27:49.320 you mean? It is? Okay? It is? I mean, okay, 1:27:50.400 --> 1:27:52.360 do you agree? You would you agree that that's the 1:27:52.400 --> 1:27:55.519 biggest plunder? You pay that kind of money to a 1:27:55.600 --> 1:27:57.960 quarterback and he's sitting on his ass on the bench, 1:27:58.200 --> 1:28:00.719 that's the biggest plunder. Yeah? Close to is did Jalen 1:28:00.800 --> 1:28:04.439 Ramsey saga? Well that one might actually end up working 1:28:04.520 --> 1:28:07.360 in their advantage They got rid of it. I'm just 1:28:07.400 --> 1:28:09.880 saying for this year, just the whole thing and how 1:28:09.920 --> 1:28:13.200 it kind of the way things went, and then the 1:28:13.320 --> 1:28:15.519 actually and I'll say even the bigger blunder than both 1:28:15.520 --> 1:28:18.240 of those was the run defense that was that was 1:28:18.320 --> 1:28:21.840 not a good one. You know, gotta be thinking, is 1:28:21.960 --> 1:28:25.800 Jalen Ramsey a bad pick now that they netted two 1:28:25.880 --> 1:28:29.479 ones for him? It depends on what those two ones produce. 1:28:29.520 --> 1:28:31.160 I think we did this the other night, right, I 1:28:31.200 --> 1:28:33.840 mean the other week where we went through the draft 1:28:33.920 --> 1:28:35.800 picks and we couldn't really figure out is that a 1:28:35.840 --> 1:28:37.240 good pick or that it was a good pick at 1:28:37.240 --> 1:28:39.680 the time, but you don't know what the return is yet. 1:28:40.040 --> 1:28:43.240 It's only right if the picks they get are good 1:28:43.479 --> 1:28:48.000 value and good players. It's a hit. You want to 1:28:48.040 --> 1:28:51.040 answer the first part of the question, Pete, Yeah, what 1:28:51.320 --> 1:28:53.639 who would be some of the candidates? I mean, you'd 1:28:53.680 --> 1:28:56.120 have to call Joshua Daniels. I think that would make 1:28:56.160 --> 1:29:00.519 a lot of sense. Um, why wouldn't you call Gray Roman? 1:29:01.080 --> 1:29:02.880 Look what he's done now that you have a different 1:29:03.000 --> 1:29:05.400 offense and different quarterback. But the guy has done some 1:29:05.479 --> 1:29:10.640 brilliant stuff in Baltimore. I think Kevin Stefanski, the offensive coordinator, 1:29:10.800 --> 1:29:12.960 Mike McCarthy would be at the top of my list. 1:29:13.920 --> 1:29:16.000 I'd give Mike McCarthy called. I think there's a lot 1:29:16.000 --> 1:29:17.840 of guys out there what about? But I'm with Tony. 1:29:17.960 --> 1:29:20.800 I think Doug's coming back? What about? And not for 1:29:20.920 --> 1:29:23.559 here other places, because again I'm not going to talk 1:29:23.600 --> 1:29:26.759 about any coaches because Doug is our coach and until 1:29:26.800 --> 1:29:29.600 we find out out anything different, you know he's the 1:29:29.600 --> 1:29:32.160 guy we're rolling with. Um, you don't play anymore. It's 1:29:32.200 --> 1:29:35.040 not your coach. You're in the media, Okay. I'm part 1:29:35.080 --> 1:29:38.320 of the organization. Pete I'm not selfish. I'm not selfish 1:29:38.400 --> 1:29:42.639 like you. What about Eric B. Enemy? I love Eric B. Enemy. 1:29:42.680 --> 1:29:45.520 I think Eric Enemy is going to interview in Carolina. 1:29:45.560 --> 1:29:47.120 I think he's gonna get a couple other interviews. I 1:29:47.200 --> 1:29:50.559 think he would be a really good coach. It's an 1:29:50.600 --> 1:29:53.400 interesting study if you look at Andy Reid's coaching tree, 1:29:53.479 --> 1:29:56.200 guys who coach for Andy Reid have had a ton 1:29:56.320 --> 1:29:59.680 of success in the NFL, especially when you compared to 1:29:59.720 --> 1:30:03.280 other coaching trees. And name me one big one, Bill Belichick. 1:30:03.640 --> 1:30:10.719 But you look at the guys who coach for Andy Reid. Uh, Hardball, McDermott, Naggy, 1:30:12.120 --> 1:30:17.519 uh Uh, who's the coach? Verdict? The verdicts at Naggie? 1:30:17.560 --> 1:30:22.040 What about the coach? Peterson? Yeah? I agree. I think 1:30:22.160 --> 1:30:24.719 I think Eric B. Enemy would be a great coach. 1:30:24.800 --> 1:30:27.320 I think he's gonna get hired in this cycle. How 1:30:27.400 --> 1:30:31.400 can he faces some of the problems that Naggie, you know, 1:30:31.560 --> 1:30:34.200 face was People always say, with Andy Reid's offense, how 1:30:34.280 --> 1:30:37.080 do you Why are you down on Naggie? He was 1:30:37.120 --> 1:30:39.439 coach of the year last year they won seven or 1:30:39.439 --> 1:30:40.840 eight games. I don't think you get a good job 1:30:40.880 --> 1:30:45.360 this year. That's why he doesn't have a quarterback Pete. Yeah. 1:30:46.280 --> 1:30:48.240 I also don't like the way it calls games at times. 1:30:48.320 --> 1:30:51.479 That's it's me. I don't know. Maybe he's restricted by 1:30:51.479 --> 1:30:55.960 the fact that this quarterback isn't good. I think I 1:30:56.000 --> 1:30:58.360 think Stefanski is going to get in the mix at 1:30:58.400 --> 1:31:01.000 the Vikings off as a coordinator. Uh, he almost got 1:31:01.040 --> 1:31:02.800 the Cleveland job last time. He's going to be in 1:31:02.920 --> 1:31:06.599 that thing. There's there's Ron Rivere is getting the Redskin's job. 1:31:06.640 --> 1:31:09.120 That one is pretty much done. And then Matt Rule. 1:31:09.240 --> 1:31:12.160 You keep here, Matt Rule to the Giants if that, 1:31:12.320 --> 1:31:14.720 and then the Cowboys haven't fired Jason Garrett yet, but 1:31:14.720 --> 1:31:16.639 if they fire them, I think they're gonna go target 1:31:16.680 --> 1:31:20.080 Lincoln Riley. But after the other night, the guy hasn't 1:31:20.080 --> 1:31:22.920 had a defense and in his whole entire time there, Well, 1:31:22.960 --> 1:31:25.000 you don't, I mean number one, Jerry does not have 1:31:25.120 --> 1:31:27.720 to fire Jason Garrett. Jason Garrett's contract is up. He 1:31:27.760 --> 1:31:30.759 can just let him walk. Well it's technically a firing. 1:31:30.880 --> 1:31:36.040 Well no, technically it's okay, Samanics. He's gonna let him. 1:31:36.160 --> 1:31:39.400 He's gonna wait to January eighteenth, when his contract is done, 1:31:39.520 --> 1:31:43.800 to let him go before hiring somebody. Yeah, probably, I 1:31:43.800 --> 1:31:48.559 don't think. The next question, and this is the topic 1:31:48.640 --> 1:31:50.720 we've covered already, but let's rehash it again. A lot 1:31:50.760 --> 1:31:52.920 has been made about unique and the possibility of using 1:31:52.960 --> 1:31:55.360 the franchise tag. Is this a viable answer to keeping 1:31:55.439 --> 1:31:58.400 ninety one around for the long term given the other 1:31:58.520 --> 1:32:02.120 salary cap situations on the team, Why or why not? 1:32:04.040 --> 1:32:06.360 If you don't sign him long term, you gotta keep 1:32:06.400 --> 1:32:09.599 him around with that, right and then maybe negotiate again. 1:32:10.960 --> 1:32:14.120 That's your tool. That's a long term solution. It's a 1:32:14.160 --> 1:32:19.120 short term solution. And uh, I would use it, would 1:32:19.200 --> 1:32:24.479 use it. I would use it too. I'm not year 1:32:24.479 --> 1:32:27.519 old pass rusher go out the door. Just not And Tony, 1:32:27.560 --> 1:32:29.600 you always talk about it. What are you replacing him with? 1:32:30.240 --> 1:32:34.559 That's right now, He's not gonna be happy. Everyone has 1:32:34.680 --> 1:32:38.000 understand that you sign him to you put the tag 1:32:38.080 --> 1:32:41.559 on him. Yahn is going to negotiate and come up 1:32:41.560 --> 1:32:43.720 with a better deal. That just gives you more time 1:32:43.800 --> 1:32:50.400 to do it. Next question at Terence L. Hayes, Tony 1:32:50.479 --> 1:32:52.960 said we should start the offseason with a quarterback competition 1:32:53.360 --> 1:32:56.240 between fools and Minshew. Didn't the team just do this? 1:32:56.439 --> 1:32:59.920 For sixteen games. Was Minshew's performance as the top rookie 1:33:00.040 --> 1:33:02.599 quarterback not enough to at least allow him to lead 1:33:02.680 --> 1:33:05.519 us into If you listen to what I actually said, 1:33:05.520 --> 1:33:08.560 I said, Mitsche has the head start. He is. He 1:33:08.760 --> 1:33:10.760 is just gonna be the guy who's gonna take the 1:33:10.800 --> 1:33:14.599 first team reps first. But I don't buy just riding 1:33:14.640 --> 1:33:16.240 off Nick Foles because of a two and a half 1:33:16.960 --> 1:33:21.040 game sample size after you paid him eighty eight million dollars. Now, 1:33:22.800 --> 1:33:25.240 don't make a decision just because you pay them eight 1:33:25.320 --> 1:33:27.439 million dollars. That's the worst thing that teams can do. 1:33:28.040 --> 1:33:30.800 But he has a small sample size of what we 1:33:30.920 --> 1:33:34.880 have seen. Here's the thing in training camp, JP, you're 1:33:34.880 --> 1:33:36.600 at every practice, Pete, you came to something, I was 1:33:36.640 --> 1:33:39.599 at a lot of them. Was there? Was it even close? 1:33:39.680 --> 1:33:44.160 When you watched Mintshew and Foals wasn't even close. It 1:33:44.280 --> 1:33:47.439 was clear. It was clear that Folds was the better quarterback. 1:33:47.640 --> 1:33:50.639 He got hurt on the eleventh play, which everyone forgets. 1:33:50.680 --> 1:33:55.479 He got hammered into a perfect pass. Was taking the 1:33:55.560 --> 1:34:00.360 first snap next next season in September, I would be 1:34:00.479 --> 1:34:02.280 if I was laying money right now, I'm saying I 1:34:02.360 --> 1:34:06.240 think Minchi wins the battle for entertainment purposes only, of course, Yeah, 1:34:06.360 --> 1:34:10.080 I don't don't. I don't bet on sports ever, never ever, ever, 1:34:11.080 --> 1:34:16.120 who who would ever, ever, ever ever just clarified, never 1:34:17.640 --> 1:34:20.280 selly who would it be? I think, uh, it's I 1:34:20.320 --> 1:34:22.680 would have a competition. Like I said, Folds, I mean, 1:34:22.920 --> 1:34:26.200 MITCHI is gonna take the first team reps uh for 1:34:26.320 --> 1:34:29.360 the first o t A. They're both gonna have opportunities. 1:34:29.920 --> 1:34:33.439 The better quarterback will play opening day. Right now, I 1:34:33.479 --> 1:34:37.960 would say I would lean towards it being mint. You well, 1:34:38.040 --> 1:34:41.120 then then that solidifies that the twenty million dollar quarterback 1:34:41.200 --> 1:34:46.320 was a total disaster. That would probably say that, yes, hypothetically, 1:34:46.400 --> 1:34:50.200 here Pete, if they do somehow get Folds off the books, 1:34:51.840 --> 1:34:53.840 they're drafted a guy, right, should get down on their 1:34:53.880 --> 1:34:57.160 knees and thank the high Havens, and then they're drafting 1:34:57.200 --> 1:34:59.200 a guy. At that point. I'm drafting a quarterback no 1:34:59.280 --> 1:35:02.160 matter what I am too at some point, and if 1:35:02.360 --> 1:35:05.400 two is there when I'm picking at nine, I got 1:35:05.520 --> 1:35:07.439 to do my due diligence on that injury and go 1:35:07.560 --> 1:35:13.000 look at him, and I might take him. I don't 1:35:13.000 --> 1:35:15.680 disagree with how many left handed quarterbacks are there in 1:35:15.720 --> 1:35:18.920 the league right now. Many Well there's that aging guy, 1:35:19.000 --> 1:35:21.439 Mark Brunell. He's still around and he only played thirty 1:35:21.479 --> 1:35:29.840 five years. How many years to play like, It's unbelievable. 1:35:29.920 --> 1:35:32.599 God bless him. But there aren't many I think active 1:35:32.720 --> 1:35:38.000 right now, come to think of it. Yeah, just an 1:35:38.040 --> 1:35:43.960 oddity of them in history though. Yeah. I Stabler right 1:35:44.280 --> 1:35:52.840 left Boomer, Yeah, Douglas, Steve Steve Young talk about Bobby Douglas. 1:35:52.920 --> 1:35:55.800 The worst pastor you've ever seen your entire life? Was it? 1:35:55.920 --> 1:36:00.519 Will Fu're left handed? Yes, so that would actually made 1:36:00.520 --> 1:36:08.240 you a left tackle that at that time? What you 1:36:08.360 --> 1:36:12.759 never heard that argument? Because Mark bron was left handed? 1:36:12.840 --> 1:36:15.800 You were? He said, make any sense? You said it 1:36:15.840 --> 1:36:19.599 backwards feet? That's okay, vital question. This is actually from 1:36:19.640 --> 1:36:23.040 the game yesterday at Jakun Kune too. What was the 1:36:23.080 --> 1:36:25.599 biggest difference for the offense this game that helped them 1:36:25.640 --> 1:36:29.040 have greater success? I thought they were more aggressive. I 1:36:29.120 --> 1:36:32.680 thought they played loser. Let's just say it. No. I 1:36:32.720 --> 1:36:35.680 thought they were more aggressive. They're more vertical. They came 1:36:35.720 --> 1:36:39.200 out throwing it early, and we heard that team that 1:36:39.320 --> 1:36:41.280 looked like it didn't care if it turned the ball 1:36:41.360 --> 1:36:44.200 over with it they played looser. We well, you all 1:36:44.200 --> 1:36:46.479 say this. Doug Brown actually said it, so did Flip 1:36:46.840 --> 1:36:49.000 during that five game stretch, especially at the end of it, 1:36:49.040 --> 1:36:51.439 that they were going to try to shorten games. And 1:36:51.560 --> 1:36:53.479 I thought they were very conservative. And this is what 1:36:53.560 --> 1:36:55.920 I said earlier this morning, and some people didn't like 1:36:56.040 --> 1:37:00.360 the comment. It was on Twitter. I was a saying 1:37:00.360 --> 1:37:03.519 anything negative about Leonard for Nett. I just felt like 1:37:03.600 --> 1:37:05.800 they forced it to shorten the game and just to 1:37:05.880 --> 1:37:11.280 be this very conservative, pounded, just pounded, pounded, pounded, and 1:37:13.160 --> 1:37:15.679 you know, be very conservative and try not to make mistakes, 1:37:15.760 --> 1:37:17.519 try to get it into the fourth quarter and see 1:37:17.520 --> 1:37:19.559 if you can win a football game, which was a disaster. 1:37:20.560 --> 1:37:21.800 You know what that when you say you're going to 1:37:21.840 --> 1:37:23.880 shorten the game, you know what, that says that you're 1:37:23.920 --> 1:37:25.960 playing not to lose rather than to win. That's what 1:37:26.120 --> 1:37:28.599 that is. That's fair. And I thought yesterday they came 1:37:28.600 --> 1:37:31.599 out and they were way more aggressive. Yeah, I agree, 1:37:32.320 --> 1:37:37.760 and it looked better. Alright, Social questions are endless. Come back, 1:37:37.840 --> 1:37:44.840 we'll review Black Monday so far scary, and then before 1:37:44.840 --> 1:37:46.080 the end of the show, we'll take a look at 1:37:46.120 --> 1:37:50.120 Wild Monday Night thing tonight. That's done. It's over. You 1:37:50.200 --> 1:37:51.840 have to pick one of the wild card games. You 1:37:51.920 --> 1:37:55.559 gotta do it for the wild Card game. Just do one, 1:37:55.600 --> 1:37:58.320 and you have to do it all. No script, no script, 1:37:58.360 --> 1:37:59.600 you gotta do. Have to top of your head. I 1:37:59.640 --> 1:38:01.840 want to music and we're gonna judge a tradition like 1:38:02.280 --> 1:38:04.439 no other. We have to finish with that. Let's cover 1:38:04.439 --> 1:38:07.360 it up in about twenty minutes or so. Back with 1:38:07.439 --> 1:38:09.719 a look at Black Monday. After this, it's Jaguars Happy 1:38:09.800 --> 1:38:17.560 Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. 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That's still vacant, right, Pete, what's 1:42:17.479 --> 1:42:19.559 the what's the kind of feel in Carolina right now. 1:42:19.920 --> 1:42:23.479 Offensive young offensive guy or an offensive guy. Maybe Mike McCarthy, 1:42:23.520 --> 1:42:26.760 they've talked to him. Maybe Kevin Stefanski, Eric b Enemy, 1:42:27.120 --> 1:42:31.759 Josh McDaniels, the usual names there, Washington Redskins, Ron Rivera 1:42:31.840 --> 1:42:36.760 reportedly in there, and Bruce Allen out Pete Well. I mean, 1:42:36.880 --> 1:42:39.680 after about forty years, it's time for Bruce Allen to go. 1:42:39.920 --> 1:42:43.519 And uh, here's this problem. And you guys know this. 1:42:43.680 --> 1:42:46.719 The problem in Washington is the owner. That's the problem. 1:42:47.439 --> 1:42:49.920 And he no matter who he hires, how he hires, 1:42:50.320 --> 1:42:53.080 the type of coachi hires, he's just not winning. And 1:42:53.320 --> 1:42:55.519 that's why it's the problem. I'm glad for Ron Rivera. 1:42:55.840 --> 1:42:57.840 The good news for Ron Rivera is if he does 1:42:57.920 --> 1:43:00.720 get the job, and it's not finalized yet, uh, he 1:43:00.800 --> 1:43:03.080 will have control of the fifty three man roster. He 1:43:03.120 --> 1:43:04.920 will also be able to bring in a personnel guy 1:43:04.960 --> 1:43:07.280 to work with him. I think that's very important for him. 1:43:09.640 --> 1:43:14.360 Pat Sherman out of the Giants. Not surprising, No, no, 1:43:14.479 --> 1:43:17.280 it should have happened. Uh. Not a good not a 1:43:17.360 --> 1:43:19.920 good you know tenure in Cleveland, not a good tenure 1:43:19.960 --> 1:43:22.559 with the Giants. The only thing I could have thought 1:43:22.600 --> 1:43:24.320 of if to bring it back is you have a 1:43:24.400 --> 1:43:28.680 young quarterback and now you're changing offenses again, and so 1:43:28.840 --> 1:43:31.560 that from that standpoint, sometimes they keep the coach for continuity. 1:43:31.640 --> 1:43:33.800 That's usually a mistake. I think the Giants got it right. 1:43:34.200 --> 1:43:37.120 Matt Rule, who was born in New York, lived in 1:43:37.200 --> 1:43:40.120 New York, worked for the Giants at one point with 1:43:40.560 --> 1:43:43.560 Dave Gentleman. I think he's the leading candidate to go 1:43:43.680 --> 1:43:48.160 become the coach of the Giants. Freddie Kitchens one and 1:43:48.479 --> 1:43:51.560 done in Cleveland, and they've got a track record of 1:43:51.640 --> 1:43:54.600 head coaching changes. The haslums as owners, well, that's it 1:43:54.720 --> 1:43:58.040 was the wrong higher first of all. But they left 1:43:58.080 --> 1:44:00.920 Baker Mayfield make the higher. Never you can. You can 1:44:01.000 --> 1:44:04.000 never allow your quarterback or your players to make the highest. 1:44:04.240 --> 1:44:06.000 Here's the thing that they were five there were five 1:44:06.040 --> 1:44:09.360 too and one and everyone gave Freddy Kitchens all the credit, 1:44:09.400 --> 1:44:13.400 but it was really Greg Williams, who's that coach when 1:44:13.439 --> 1:44:15.240 they did that, If anything, they should have just kept 1:44:15.280 --> 1:44:17.840 Greg there as the head coach and like Greg bill 1:44:17.920 --> 1:44:20.320 the staff. I mean, if you wanted to have continuity 1:44:20.439 --> 1:44:23.160 based on what you you did to finish the season out, 1:44:24.160 --> 1:44:26.759 but Freddy Kitchens to start last year was a running 1:44:26.760 --> 1:44:29.439 back coach. Got the job because Todd Haley got fired 1:44:29.479 --> 1:44:32.720 mid season, and I think they put him in a 1:44:32.800 --> 1:44:36.240 tough situation and he could well, yeah, they he was 1:44:36.320 --> 1:44:38.719 set up to fail. He wasn't a he wasn't ready 1:44:38.760 --> 1:44:42.160 for the job. Be they got all the bells and 1:44:42.200 --> 1:44:44.880 whistles and forgot to get the meat and potatoes. I 1:44:44.920 --> 1:44:46.479 mean they had one of the worst the right time. 1:44:46.560 --> 1:44:48.640 That right and left tackle on that team were atrocious, 1:44:49.160 --> 1:44:51.920 like and so you have all those egos on that 1:44:52.080 --> 1:44:55.200 offense without the ability to protect the quarterback. And then 1:44:55.240 --> 1:44:58.040 he didn't play well. So, uh, they he was set 1:44:58.080 --> 1:45:00.400 up to fail. It should have never happened out. Who's 1:45:00.400 --> 1:45:02.720 going to get the job if you're Josh McDaniels and 1:45:02.760 --> 1:45:05.760 you grew up thirty minutes away from there, imagine he 1:45:05.800 --> 1:45:08.559 grew up a Browns fan. Is that your dream job? 1:45:08.600 --> 1:45:11.040 And you go back to Ohio and take that job 1:45:11.600 --> 1:45:13.920 knowing that the Hasms have the quick trigger. I don't 1:45:13.920 --> 1:45:15.880 know if I would take that if I was Josh McDaniels. 1:45:16.400 --> 1:45:22.599 Is is Odell Beckham Jr. Gonna be back? Yes? Yes, 1:45:22.920 --> 1:45:24.280 you don't let that go out to the door, you 1:45:24.360 --> 1:45:28.360 make the move to go get he did nothing, but 1:45:28.479 --> 1:45:30.000 he just hurt all year two. He had the core 1:45:30.120 --> 1:45:32.719 muscles supposedly, it's been bothering me for about six weeks. 1:45:33.640 --> 1:45:38.880 And the offensive line was terrible. Do you who got 1:45:38.920 --> 1:45:41.680 the better of that deal? The Giants or the or 1:45:41.800 --> 1:45:45.519 the of the Browns? What did the Giants good for him? 1:45:47.720 --> 1:45:51.280 They got Peppers who hasn't didn't work out for him? 1:45:52.240 --> 1:45:56.680 And what draft picks did they get? I mean then 1:45:56.760 --> 1:46:06.160 there was the the trade for uh Olivier Vernon, remember 1:46:06.200 --> 1:46:10.679 that one. I think the Giants uh the Brown's first 1:46:10.760 --> 1:46:18.120 round pick, go Dowell. Beckham is a super talented but 1:46:18.240 --> 1:46:20.200 tell me the last time a team like he helped 1:46:20.240 --> 1:46:23.320 the team win? Right? Would you take right now? If 1:46:23.360 --> 1:46:25.439 you were the Giants, You're glad you got the seventeenth 1:46:25.479 --> 1:46:29.400 overall pick in exchange for for Beckham. Yeah. And Jamal 1:46:29.439 --> 1:46:32.599 Peppers played pretty well the first half of the season, Pete, Yeah, 1:46:32.720 --> 1:46:35.519 he played pretty well. Strong scenes he's okay, he's okay. 1:46:36.560 --> 1:46:39.680 But the Giants got the better on the Zeitler for 1:46:40.479 --> 1:46:44.880 Vernon trade. Absolutely, yeah, that was a mistake on the 1:46:44.920 --> 1:46:47.479 part of that that front office. But to as you 1:46:47.600 --> 1:46:50.479 question about Kitchens. He was in over his head. Now 1:46:50.560 --> 1:46:51.920 they have to go find a guy that can bring 1:46:52.000 --> 1:46:58.240 that whole thing together. Good luck the the other names 1:46:58.320 --> 1:47:01.320 that have been declared safe least so far. Adam Gates 1:47:01.360 --> 1:47:05.040 with the Jets getting more coming back that Patricia with 1:47:05.080 --> 1:47:07.479 the Lions getting more time. That woul't surprised me. That 1:47:07.520 --> 1:47:11.040 won't surprised me, did it. They? Well, they fired Jim 1:47:11.120 --> 1:47:16.640 Coldway after to what nine and seven seasons? Mhm, the 1:47:16.920 --> 1:47:22.479 Falcons brain trust is back. We thought that was gonna happen. 1:47:23.520 --> 1:47:25.040 When you were up there for the you thought that 1:47:25.080 --> 1:47:28.240 was gonna happen to that team kind of rallied around 1:47:28.280 --> 1:47:31.160 that guy. They finished. They started one and seven, finished 1:47:31.160 --> 1:47:34.920 six and two. Yeah, I would have brought him back 1:47:34.920 --> 1:47:39.040 to him. And you think it's over in Dallas, Yes, 1:47:39.840 --> 1:47:42.920 whether it's at the semantics of it, whether it's yeah, 1:47:42.920 --> 1:47:46.680 I I see no no scenario where Jason Garrett's back 1:47:46.760 --> 1:47:56.280 his head coach. Would you hire Lincoln Riley? Um? I 1:47:56.320 --> 1:48:00.400 don't know. He's the hot name right now. I don't know. 1:48:00.560 --> 1:48:03.000 Somebody in my office was saying, oh, well, look Kingsbury 1:48:03.080 --> 1:48:05.000 went there and had success and he couldn't win in 1:48:05.040 --> 1:48:08.160 the big twelve, you know, because he did. Kingsbury actually 1:48:08.200 --> 1:48:09.840 did a nice job in Arizona. They didn't win a 1:48:09.880 --> 1:48:13.240 lot of games, but they got better. But there's a 1:48:13.280 --> 1:48:15.600 big difference between coaching the Texas Tech and coaching in 1:48:15.680 --> 1:48:18.680 Oklahoma considering what you have to work with. I think 1:48:18.800 --> 1:48:20.639 Leg Roley is a really good coach. I think you'd 1:48:20.680 --> 1:48:24.200 have success in the NFL. But Tony, you know this, 1:48:24.520 --> 1:48:28.000 you play, it's more about how you handle and doubt 1:48:28.040 --> 1:48:31.760 your roster in your locker room and delegate as much 1:48:31.840 --> 1:48:35.000 as it is for xs and ohs. Well, it's your presence, 1:48:35.040 --> 1:48:37.880 it's your leadership at your ability to get you know, 1:48:38.000 --> 1:48:42.439 fifty three type A men have you know or half crazy? 1:48:42.560 --> 1:48:44.400 I mean all of us are crazy in this game. 1:48:45.320 --> 1:48:47.120 All of us are crazy in the world. So let's 1:48:47.160 --> 1:48:50.000 let's stop there. But everybody's crazy. But to look at 1:48:50.080 --> 1:48:52.160 you as the man and say, I'm gonna follow this guy, 1:48:52.160 --> 1:48:53.439 I'm gonna do what he says, I'm gonna do what 1:48:53.479 --> 1:48:55.439 he asked. I'm gonna play hard for him. I mean 1:48:55.520 --> 1:48:57.160 that's the job of the head coach and getting good 1:48:57.200 --> 1:49:01.640 coordinators right and if there is an incident, dealing with it, 1:49:02.240 --> 1:49:05.000 not allowing somebody else to get away with one thing 1:49:05.080 --> 1:49:08.440 while he penalizing somebody else. There's gotta be all consistent consistency. 1:49:09.400 --> 1:49:12.519 I just think there's a lot more than just calling plays. 1:49:12.640 --> 1:49:14.720 And when you look at Lick and Riley, look, it 1:49:14.800 --> 1:49:16.360 looks like he can handle it. But it's a big 1:49:16.439 --> 1:49:19.640 difference handling grown men and handling college kids. Who was 1:49:19.680 --> 1:49:22.040 the last college coach to go to the NFL and 1:49:22.160 --> 1:49:27.519 have success in the NFL? Pete Carroll, Well, he didn't 1:49:27.520 --> 1:49:30.200 have success in the NFL right away. Yeah, okay, he 1:49:30.280 --> 1:49:32.240 was already a coach in the NFL. No, but he 1:49:32.360 --> 1:49:34.799 went to He was a college coach, won multiple national titles. 1:49:35.120 --> 1:49:37.160 Left he had already been a head coach at the NFL. 1:49:37.640 --> 1:49:39.760 You're missing my point. He came from college. He won 1:49:39.880 --> 1:49:42.680 national titles at college. That's not what JP's asking you. 1:49:42.760 --> 1:49:45.120 That JP's asking you about the guy who was in 1:49:45.320 --> 1:49:48.080 college and took the leap to the NFL. Pete Carroll 1:49:48.080 --> 1:49:50.320 had already been in the NFL before he went back 1:49:50.360 --> 1:49:53.400 to college. John Robinson did it back at the day 1:49:53.600 --> 1:49:56.639 with the Rams. He had success of the Rams. Bill 1:49:56.680 --> 1:50:01.280 Walsh did it. Yes, Jimmy Johnson did it. Jimmy Johnson, 1:50:01.360 --> 1:50:07.479 Bill Walsh Switcher on a Super Bowl trying to think 1:50:07.479 --> 1:50:15.960 who else has done Yeah, Switcher out that, but Nick 1:50:17.920 --> 1:50:20.840 Nick Saban didn't do well doing it? No, who Okay, listen, 1:50:20.880 --> 1:50:22.920 who are the last ones who actually made the jump? 1:50:23.760 --> 1:50:28.000 It's been a while well, I mean people you always 1:50:28.040 --> 1:50:35.000 hear the the well did it? I mean that was 1:50:35.040 --> 1:50:41.639 a while? Yeah? What about the NFL too? What about 1:50:41.760 --> 1:50:44.280 Urban Meyer? Would he be a good, good NFL head coach? 1:50:45.880 --> 1:50:48.599 I don't know, Tony. I think I think he has 1:50:48.640 --> 1:50:51.240 a presence about him. I think there's I think he 1:50:51.280 --> 1:50:56.439 would be. He's organized, good communicator, good leader. I think 1:50:56.479 --> 1:50:58.240 he'd be. I think he put together a good staff. 1:50:58.640 --> 1:51:03.479 I think, Okay, here's a couple other ones. What do 1:51:03.560 --> 1:51:07.559 you think. I think there's a track record of him 1:51:07.800 --> 1:51:10.680 when the pressure is really tight, I'll be able to 1:51:10.760 --> 1:51:15.599 handle the physically. I hear he's more of an Yeah, 1:51:15.680 --> 1:51:18.720 he's more of the delegator the overseers. So that would 1:51:18.760 --> 1:51:20.479 work in the end. That's what I said. That's why 1:51:20.520 --> 1:51:23.439 I think he did. How about here, I give you 1:51:23.439 --> 1:51:28.080 a couple other ones. Yeah, quick, Bobby Petrino, that didn't work, 1:51:28.560 --> 1:51:34.400 didn't work already Dennis ericson. Okay, which Davis, that's right, 1:51:34.479 --> 1:51:40.080 didn't work. Mike Riley did not work. June Jones did 1:51:40.160 --> 1:51:45.840 not work. Chan Gally okay, he was the head coach. 1:51:46.680 --> 1:51:50.880 Bud Wilkinson didn't work. All right, let's go, we gotta, 1:51:51.320 --> 1:51:58.600 let's come back. We'll preview youngest NFL coach. He was 1:51:58.720 --> 1:52:01.479 rolling in the with the Raider. Yeah, he was popular 1:52:01.560 --> 1:52:04.040 out there too, with the ownership her too. Back in 1:52:04.120 --> 1:52:06.959 a moment. Wild Card Weekend preview after this is Jaguars 1:52:07.000 --> 1:52:13.840 Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. 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Hold on, honey, ladies, where did you go 1:55:00.080 --> 1:55:03.360 get ready for the game? Sun Mark, visit any one 1:55:03.400 --> 1:55:06.520 of our six locations in Jacksonville for all your tailgating needs. 1:55:06.560 --> 1:55:09.720 As we probably support the Jaguars this season. Stue Mark 1:55:09.960 --> 1:55:28.000 saving is a beautiful thing. The final a few minutes 1:55:28.040 --> 1:55:32.120 of Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday for this season. 1:55:32.200 --> 1:55:36.120 This is the last show. This is it. J P. Shattrick, 1:55:36.160 --> 1:55:42.000 Tony was Elly, Pete Priscoe. Tony is on Twitter, digging deep. 1:55:42.520 --> 1:55:44.920 Even in the final moments of the show. Pete, he 1:55:44.960 --> 1:55:47.600 can't get off of Twitter. He can't do it. He's 1:55:47.600 --> 1:55:49.960 trying to figure out how many people were getting mad 1:55:50.040 --> 1:55:54.560 at him again today. Well, I'm sure there's a there's 1:55:54.560 --> 1:55:58.560 a lot of them. It's unbelievable. People are on Twitter 1:55:58.720 --> 1:56:02.879 just get out of control, like this new thing. Okay, Boomer, 1:56:03.440 --> 1:56:05.960 you know that when you're an older person like myself. 1:56:06.000 --> 1:56:09.960 They say, okay, Boomer, they act like that bothers me. 1:56:14.560 --> 1:56:16.760 I mean, if that's something that bothers you, you've got 1:56:16.840 --> 1:56:20.840 a very thin skin. It's funny. So like there was 1:56:20.840 --> 1:56:23.480 another tweet that so I did like ten ten. Every 1:56:23.520 --> 1:56:26.120 time I do the show, they they pull quotes out 1:56:26.120 --> 1:56:28.200 of what I say. Correct, Yeah, I see him in 1:56:28.240 --> 1:56:30.480 the morning, and I don't remember saying it quite like this, 1:56:30.600 --> 1:56:37.880 but that's fine. So there they're asked me to your 1:56:37.920 --> 1:56:40.640 point about Twitter being angry, and I said this about 1:56:40.640 --> 1:56:42.400 your honest and he turned down nine team million, and 1:56:42.520 --> 1:56:44.120 I like you, and he's a guy you wanted your team. 1:56:44.160 --> 1:56:46.160 But this is back to back seasons with under ten sex. 1:56:46.280 --> 1:56:47.960 If he's asking for twenty plus, you have to take 1:56:48.000 --> 1:56:49.520 a deep breath and ask if this is really what 1:56:49.600 --> 1:56:54.360 you want to do. Pretty tame comment when you say, pete, yeah, 1:56:54.520 --> 1:56:57.360 very I mean. And then people are like, pay them, 1:56:57.520 --> 1:57:00.840 pay them with all due respect, both the Jaggers have 1:57:00.880 --> 1:57:02.880 paid a whole lot more for a whole lot less. 1:57:05.040 --> 1:57:07.560 And then one guy says, shake my head, they just 1:57:07.640 --> 1:57:11.320 don't like the guy. Who's I mean, I just said, like, 1:57:13.760 --> 1:57:15.880 who knows? I mean, I don't know. I can't please, 1:57:15.920 --> 1:57:20.400 everybody can't do it all right, Let's preview the game's 1:57:20.440 --> 1:57:23.360 coming up on wild Card weekend. First of all, four 1:57:23.520 --> 1:57:28.880 thirty five on Saturday, the Buffalo Bills at the Houston Texans. 1:57:29.720 --> 1:57:33.000 This is a traditional a f C South champion spot 1:57:33.200 --> 1:57:35.240 the early game on Saturday. Pete, it seems like the 1:57:35.320 --> 1:57:38.920 champion always plays on Saturday. Yeah, well, whoever wins is 1:57:38.960 --> 1:57:42.080 always playing early on Saturday. From that that, because it's 1:57:42.080 --> 1:57:44.760 smaller markets and people don't care about them. I think 1:57:44.760 --> 1:57:47.480 Buffalo goes in there and wins. I think Texans have 1:57:47.640 --> 1:57:51.000 some issues, particularly on defense, and Tony saw him two 1:57:51.000 --> 1:57:52.720 weeks ago. They don't rush the past are well enough. 1:57:53.560 --> 1:57:56.520 I think Buffalo's defense is going to limit what Deshaun 1:57:56.560 --> 1:58:00.840 Watson does. I like the Bills to win that game. Um, 1:58:02.720 --> 1:58:05.680 I'll go with Bills as well. Now the question is 1:58:05.880 --> 1:58:10.960 is will Fuller playing? Probably not, then I go for 1:58:11.080 --> 1:58:14.800 Bills for sure. Our next game on Saturday, the big 1:58:14.880 --> 1:58:17.960 game in the wild Card Weekend and eight fifteen Eastern 1:58:18.080 --> 1:58:22.120 times start in Foxborough, Massachusetts, the Tennessee Titans. With Derrick 1:58:22.160 --> 1:58:25.360 Henry the league's leading rusher. They head into New England 1:58:25.400 --> 1:58:28.160 to face the Patriots and the top defense in the NFL. 1:58:28.480 --> 1:58:30.880 They're playing on wild card weekend for the first time 1:58:30.960 --> 1:58:36.800 in a decade. Who you got Titans Patriots? First? Welcome? 1:58:37.160 --> 1:58:41.400 Very good. By the way, did did Jaguars defensive players 1:58:41.440 --> 1:58:43.920 get the presents from Derrick Henry? You know how running 1:58:43.960 --> 1:58:47.920 backs usually give their linemen some presents Christmas watch or something. 1:58:48.280 --> 1:58:51.080 Did the Jaguars defensive players get something for allowing him 1:58:51.320 --> 1:58:56.280 to lead the league in rushing? Who? What? What was 1:58:56.360 --> 1:59:01.320 this total rushing yards? I forget right at the top 1:59:01.320 --> 1:59:03.040 of my head, but I can't get who you're liking 1:59:03.080 --> 1:59:06.080 that one? First off? I like I like the Patriots. 1:59:06.120 --> 1:59:09.200 They're gonna take him away. How about this stat? Ryan 1:59:09.280 --> 1:59:12.440 tanney Hill is oh and six against the Patriots and 1:59:12.520 --> 1:59:15.440 he's got five touchdown passes and ten picks. I'm doing 1:59:15.520 --> 1:59:18.160 the game, so you're not gonna make a pick, or 1:59:18.160 --> 1:59:20.000 you can do that thing where you're not making I 1:59:20.040 --> 1:59:22.520 probably shouldn't make a pick, but I will. I'm going 1:59:22.600 --> 1:59:29.040 Pats all right, Vikings, Saints quick one word Saints and 1:59:29.280 --> 1:59:33.640 Eagles and Eagles Eagles. You have it, Pete, We'll talk 1:59:33.680 --> 1:59:37.600 to you soon down the line. Well done, Pete. Frisco, 1:59:38.040 --> 1:59:40.560 Tony Basselli. I'm J. P. Shadrick. Thank you for listening 1:59:40.600 --> 1:59:46.200 all year. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.