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Speaker 1: At the end of the twenty nineteen season, j P. Shadrick,
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, Pete Prisco and We've got plenty to discuss
Speaker 1: in this program. The season aftermath is beginning today Locker
Speaker 1: room clean out Day. We'll hear from some guys in
Speaker 1: the locker room today on their final day of really here.
Speaker 1: It's the t I A. Bank Field. The future of
Speaker 1: the football leadership is the big question around the Jaguars
Speaker 1: world today. What will that entail? Will hopefully soon find out.
Speaker 1: The NFL Draft selections are said as well. We're gonna
Speaker 1: officially talk NFL Draft tonight. That's what you're talking, Pete,
Speaker 1: what's up? I like talking NFL draft? Tony hates it.
Speaker 1: I like talking NFL Draft in November. I've been fine
Speaker 1: with it this year, Pete, I've been pushed back at all. No,
Speaker 1: you've been much better. If you're a realist. Now, that's
Speaker 1: what happened when you become a member of the media.
Speaker 1: I think I'm I'm leaving the media. You're leaving. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna divorce myself. You're done, We'll see you never know.
Speaker 1: You never know. Once you're in. Once you're in, you're in.
Speaker 1: You can't get out. You take it out blood in bloodles.
Speaker 1: Unless you've got information that you're being named a general
Speaker 1: managers somewhere. Do not breaking news. No news that is
Speaker 1: not happening. No news. Okay, we have a GM. First
Speaker 1: of all, there is a GM here. I didn't say there.
Speaker 1: Maybe you were going somewhere else. Broncos the partner with Elway,
Speaker 1: my childhood childhood hero. How could he have been your
Speaker 1: childhood hero when you're older than he is. He was
Speaker 1: in the eight three draft that was eleven eleven years old.
Speaker 1: I know, just you look a lot older than he does. No, actually, no,
Speaker 1: you don't know. I don't. Let's start off with that
Speaker 1: looking ahead to the future. But in the aftermath of
Speaker 1: the Jaguars win last night, head coach Doug Marone discussing
Speaker 1: his future shout of Tony want a a great football
Speaker 1: team here that there's not There's no doubt in my mind,
Speaker 1: and they are two great honors. So, um, it's just
Speaker 1: a matter of doesn't make sense as it's right. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to communicate that here. That's you know,
Speaker 1: for a private conversation. And this is the way I feel,
Speaker 1: this is what we have to do, this is what
Speaker 1: I need and you know, expressed those opinions and if
Speaker 1: it's if it is the right direction, then I'm the
Speaker 1: right person for the job. If it isn't, then I'm not.
Speaker 1: There are reports today that there are meeting scheduled tomorrow
Speaker 1: between the ownership and the football leadership of the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: Are these the same sources that said he was fired
Speaker 1: on Saturday allegedly? I don't know. That's a great question,
Speaker 1: same four letter network, But yes, reporting that was that
Speaker 1: was an interesting Saturday, pete, very very interesting. And the
Speaker 1: reason I say that is, um, the report came out
Speaker 1: and then they quickly destroyed the report. And when they
Speaker 1: destroyed the report, they did it with the left, and
Speaker 1: then the overhand right because Jim Woodcox sent out the
Speaker 1: statement and then Tony Khan sent out the tweet, and
Speaker 1: they just obliterated the report. And as of right now,
Speaker 1: the report is wrong. It doesn't mean it's going to
Speaker 1: be wrong, but it's wrong as of right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they said it was gonna be after the season.
Speaker 1: The season's over. Nothing's happened. The report is that he
Speaker 1: was told he was told. I mean that we know,
Speaker 1: like we that the report will never be right Pete
Speaker 1: because the report said he was told that he's going
Speaker 1: to be dismissed. The conversation never happened. I mean, has
Speaker 1: not been told anything. So what not that we can
Speaker 1: spend too much time on this, but as a reporter,
Speaker 1: because I mean, this is your livelihood, I mean, you're
Speaker 1: really the media. I mean, this is your report for
Speaker 1: a living What I mean, what does that do to
Speaker 1: to a reporter when something you missed something that bad. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you an example. I would I missed
Speaker 1: something and I reported as but I said it on
Speaker 1: the air that the Arizona Cardinals were not going to
Speaker 1: take Kyler Murray. Now I was told that by somebody
Speaker 1: I trusted and reported it. I didn't say, you know,
Speaker 1: to make it exclose. I just put it out there
Speaker 1: on the show. I don't think they're taking him. I've
Speaker 1: been told that they're leaning in another direction. Well it
Speaker 1: ended up they took them, and people got all over me,
Speaker 1: and I went back to the guy who told me that,
Speaker 1: are you lied to me? And I was mad, really, man,
Speaker 1: I said, of all the people you know, why would
Speaker 1: you lie to me about that? And he apologized up
Speaker 1: and down and whatever, and I said, look, bygones, be bygones.
Speaker 1: So I got the information and I had found out
Speaker 1: part of the problem was they if the baseball clause
Speaker 1: in his contract wasn't remedied, they might not have taken him.
Speaker 1: But I got the information from a trusted, reliable source
Speaker 1: and it was wrong. So did Diana Rossini get the
Speaker 1: information from a trusted, reliable source and it was wrong?
Speaker 1: That's the question. Well, that's I mean, why else would
Speaker 1: she report it? I mean, she's a very credible, like
Speaker 1: good reputation as a journalist. Why would she report it
Speaker 1: if she didn't have a good, good source? Right? But
Speaker 1: they're only sources that would know that are shot Khan,
Speaker 1: Tony Khan probably, Jim Woodcock probably, and Doug Moron and
Speaker 1: maybe Dave Cobble And that's it when you agree and
Speaker 1: maybe would maybe Doug's agent. Yeah, that's it. The story
Speaker 1: was reported. She could have left herself, but out by
Speaker 1: saying it appears that as soon as the season's over,
Speaker 1: there's a good chance Doug Marone will be let go,
Speaker 1: rather than saying he's been told that he will be
Speaker 1: let go after the season. Because it's still a possibility,
Speaker 1: you know that. So if you let go on Tuesday
Speaker 1: when they have their meeting, but she's still wrong even
Speaker 1: if he's let go Tuesday, right, But okay, but if
Speaker 1: he's left going Tuesday after the meeting, do they say
Speaker 1: we had it right? And I would answer that question
Speaker 1: by saying, as a journalist, no, because of the way
Speaker 1: you reported it. Yeah, it was just crazy. It was
Speaker 1: a crazy timeline. Yeah, what happens if they keep them?
Speaker 1: Then what does she do? Because that's even wor that's
Speaker 1: a bad look. But again I go back there. I
Speaker 1: told you the story would happened to me. And sometimes
Speaker 1: you trust the source and it's not right depending on
Speaker 1: the source. Now, my source was rock solid, so I
Speaker 1: was angry about it, and I'm sure she'll have a source,
Speaker 1: Like if it's a periphery agent that told her that
Speaker 1: bad source. If it was one it was, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the cons who told her that it's not true,
Speaker 1: then they have some explaining to do. And I doubt
Speaker 1: it was then. By the way, another question, that's what's
Speaker 1: going to happen after these meetings tomorrow? Well, if they
Speaker 1: were going to fire him, why would you wait till Tuesday.
Speaker 1: That's just my theory on it. It makes no sense.
Speaker 1: You get ahead of the game. Today was a day
Speaker 1: um other than Jerry Jones who likes to have his
Speaker 1: own stage and fire guys what he wants to to
Speaker 1: make it look good. Yeah, but when you say get
Speaker 1: ahead of the game, if you do tomorrow instead of today,
Speaker 1: you're not. I mean, he didn't lose any ground, No,
Speaker 1: But what's the point of making a guy twist in
Speaker 1: the wind a little bit too? I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's what they're doing. I think I think according
Speaker 1: to the report and everything I hear, is that you know,
Speaker 1: Sean wants to sit down and everybody wants to have
Speaker 1: a deep evaluation of where we are as an organization
Speaker 1: and make a decision with all the facts. Didn't they
Speaker 1: spend time together last Friday? It's some dinner. A report
Speaker 1: on Thursday that they were at dinner. Yes, I mean,
Speaker 1: how much more do you need? Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: You will think what I've been saying is accurate, that
Speaker 1: the pushback from the fan base is really influencing him
Speaker 1: this time around. I don't. I actually don't know. I
Speaker 1: think this is a situation where Thanks wants to I
Speaker 1: think he wants to talk to a lot of people,
Speaker 1: he wants to get a good sense, and obviously to
Speaker 1: the two most important or David Doug. But I think
Speaker 1: he's I think he's doing a bunch of due diligence
Speaker 1: right now to make sure he has all the facts
Speaker 1: and has all the information he needs, and he wants
Speaker 1: to make a decision, and I think that's the right
Speaker 1: way to do it, by the way, and I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be shocked if it even goes down to the locker
Speaker 1: room as well. Today was player getaway day, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's probably some key players that he, you know,
Speaker 1: talked to just to get their ideas of things. I
Speaker 1: always think talking to players is dangerous and I was,
Speaker 1: and I was, well, because there's a player. Unless you
Speaker 1: just hate the head coach, knowing that there's a chance
Speaker 1: he's come back, you're not gonna kill him unless you
Speaker 1: just can't stand him. And if you like them, if
Speaker 1: you really like them, you might go the other way,
Speaker 1: even though you know that maybe things can be better,
Speaker 1: but you really like him as a person. And so
Speaker 1: I think, not that it's not a good thing to
Speaker 1: talk to people and get a perspective, but take it
Speaker 1: for what it is. Yeah, I think that you always
Speaker 1: gonna take all of that with a grain of salt.
Speaker 1: So what do you think happens? I think they're both back.
Speaker 1: I think they're both back to and I do think
Speaker 1: that the pushback in town has been heard and they've
Speaker 1: noticed it. Why do you say that, Pete, Because I Tony,
Speaker 1: I've been I lived in that town for how long,
Speaker 1: and I know that fan base. I don't ever remember
Speaker 1: him being this fired up about the potential bringing those
Speaker 1: guys back. Ever. Ever, they're mad, Tony. They're mad. You
Speaker 1: know you live there. You hear it on the radio
Speaker 1: and in the comments and people talking to you. They're
Speaker 1: as the fans are as mad and angry and frustrated
Speaker 1: as they've ever been. Yeah, like mad, I would actually
Speaker 1: describe it differently. I would say frustrated, and um, what
Speaker 1: does it say bewildered? But that's not the right right
Speaker 1: word of wondering, I guess wondering what the reason is?
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, not because I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone dislikes Dave or dislikes Doug, but I think
Speaker 1: what the fan base is saying is, you know, since
Speaker 1: Day's been here, it's six double digit losing seasons out
Speaker 1: of seven. Um, right now, I think, I mean we've
Speaker 1: sat there. You look at the roster, it's it's at
Speaker 1: best bottom third of the NFL. Would you say that,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, without questions? And so you know you look
Speaker 1: at some of the miss first rounders and the miss
Speaker 1: second rounders, and you know the Jalen Ramsey stuff that
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't. I mean, let's not forget to
Speaker 1: Telvin submit the pro bowler just decided one day to leave,
Speaker 1: um you know, like borders the quarterbacks, and I mean,
Speaker 1: just to look at all of that, and and now
Speaker 1: more than ever, even more than I am that that
Speaker 1: I think is right in the NFL. It is such
Speaker 1: a such a wins and losses? What have you done
Speaker 1: for me? Immediately when he saw Pat Sherman get fired
Speaker 1: after two years, Freddy Kitchens after one after one year,
Speaker 1: and then people want immediate results. And so when you
Speaker 1: look at the situation, you said, I hate the fans
Speaker 1: are saying they're frustrated because they want to win, and
Speaker 1: everyone's frustrated and more than anger, it's kind of like
Speaker 1: looking and saying like like, help me understand what we're
Speaker 1: what we're looking at and why it's gonna be different.
Speaker 1: And I think that's you know, more of the and
Speaker 1: there's some anger in there there as well, But I
Speaker 1: think that's the major sentiment I had. I had I've
Speaker 1: had talking to people and I haven't today. So one
Speaker 1: asking me questions like, well, just can you explain to
Speaker 1: me why that they would be back, And wasn't angry
Speaker 1: loves the franchise, you know, wants it to be successful,
Speaker 1: fan everything else, but it was it was just like
Speaker 1: that kind of like just help me understand why, and
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. I think it's me when uh assuming,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is my sense that they both come
Speaker 1: back and the announcement comes out, what kind of information
Speaker 1: will be given kind of what is the you know expectations,
Speaker 1: uh from the team and from from Dave and Doug,
Speaker 1: and I think you know, well that also could be this.
Speaker 1: It also could be a situation wation where they're looking
Speaker 1: at it. They can't get out from underneath false contract, right,
Speaker 1: they can't unless some he retires, which he's not he
Speaker 1: said today he's not doing, or they give up draft
Speaker 1: picks and some team is foolish enough to take him.
Speaker 1: Or he restructures a contract which in his case, why
Speaker 1: would you do it? Or give it up money? So
Speaker 1: he's not gonna do that. So they can't get from
Speaker 1: out from underneath that. So they're stuck with him for
Speaker 1: another year. So if you try and hire a new
Speaker 1: coach outside that guy comes in, he's stuck with him.
Speaker 1: And now after a year, if they don't win, then
Speaker 1: you get rid of Doug and Dave and then you
Speaker 1: go from there and they're not stuck. The guy who
Speaker 1: comes in the GM slash new coach is not stuck
Speaker 1: with Nick Foles and that contract that's an albatross hanging
Speaker 1: over them right now. Yeah, you like it, You're like that, Well,
Speaker 1: his face, his face showed it. The whole big false things.
Speaker 1: Fascinating to me, I means so fascinating. I mean six
Speaker 1: months ago or eight months ago, nine months ago. Now
Speaker 1: when they signed him, the excitement and great and yes,
Speaker 1: like some of us and most of us said, you
Speaker 1: made it, might have paid a little bit more than
Speaker 1: you had to, but like, this is the guy everyone wanted.
Speaker 1: And literally after two and a half games, we now
Speaker 1: cannot stand him and he's the worst quarterback ever. That's
Speaker 1: what's fascinating to me. Like, how did he go from
Speaker 1: the guy Yes, we're excited too, the biggest disaster? How
Speaker 1: do we get rid of them? Your attire situation over
Speaker 1: two and a half games? Three starts, two full games
Speaker 1: or uh two full games a half plus eleven play
Speaker 1: a little bit over two and a half games, so
Speaker 1: three starts, four starts, four starts, four starts, and the fans,
Speaker 1: fans don't think he's any good either. But people, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Come on, though, man, if we
Speaker 1: can't decide it on that, I mean, you just gotta
Speaker 1: decided on but you can't. You can't make like and
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, by the way, he's the guy. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, boy, it's tough to make a judgment based
Speaker 1: on just two and a half games of work. We've
Speaker 1: got plenty of time. But that's what but that is,
Speaker 1: that's what's happened. Let's come back a little bit later.
Speaker 1: We'll get into the quarterback talk a little more. We'll
Speaker 1: go a quarterback talk. We'll do more. We're gonna do more,
Speaker 1: tony Um. We're also gonna come back in a moment
Speaker 1: and get into the future of the Jaguars defense. What
Speaker 1: can the Jaguars do? There a lot of salary cap
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Speaker 1: The Great lays Joe told me to take a year
Speaker 1: by year, you know, obviously, you know, I feel like
Speaker 1: I have some good football left and you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it will be you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's gonna be. Uh you know, how many
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Speaker 1: Calais un one of those names that you you just
Speaker 1: wonder what's gonna happen in the off season here. I mean,
Speaker 1: the guy just finished his twelfth season. He's got a
Speaker 1: big cap number, small dead cap number next year, but
Speaker 1: you you love his presence certainly on this football team.
Speaker 1: He made an impact play yesterday with the fumble return touchdown.
Speaker 1: And we can go through a few guys on defense.
Speaker 1: Let's start with Klais. I mean this is you know,
Speaker 1: there's some savings to be had there, but you still
Speaker 1: want him and he still wants to play well, No,
Speaker 1: you definitely want him on the team. At the bottom
Speaker 1: line is you can't pay him the fourteen fifty million
Speaker 1: dollars whatever it is next year you owe him. Might
Speaker 1: even be more than that. Seventeen and a half cap
Speaker 1: hit two and a half million dollar dead cap, so
Speaker 1: it's a fifteen million dollar delta. I mean, you can't
Speaker 1: pay it. I mean, right now we are the way
Speaker 1: what how I understand the cap were over the cap
Speaker 1: going in the next year, and that's before the draft
Speaker 1: and before any free agency. So you have to make
Speaker 1: hard decisions. You gotta let eys go. Who are starters
Speaker 1: in this football team and where the team sits right now?
Speaker 1: You want Calais back because of his leadership, his presence.
Speaker 1: You want him playing probably about thirty snaps a game,
Speaker 1: and for that you're probably only gonna be able to
Speaker 1: pay him seven to nine million because you have to
Speaker 1: get a cap savings. You get, um, he's not an
Speaker 1: every down guy anymore. His reps are need to be way,
Speaker 1: you know, reduced to the big way. And so you
Speaker 1: look at a guy like that, what you hope is
Speaker 1: that he wants to be here, because I don't think
Speaker 1: I don't see anyone paying him, you know, twelve thirteen
Speaker 1: million dollars a year, But do you want seven eight
Speaker 1: making a two year deal with funny money in it
Speaker 1: and you get give him a bonus and make the
Speaker 1: cap hit lass maybe make it you know, spread it out,
Speaker 1: have some big incentives in there, so the productions there,
Speaker 1: you can pay him more. But I just don't I mean,
Speaker 1: but so truly it's gonna be in clays his court.
Speaker 1: Does he want to come back here? Does he want
Speaker 1: to play for less money in Jacksonville or does he
Speaker 1: want to go to a contender or if he feels
Speaker 1: like this team is too far away, does he want
Speaker 1: to try to go get a ring? What's your gut
Speaker 1: telling you? I don't know. I haven't spent any time
Speaker 1: with class. Um. I think he lle I think he
Speaker 1: likes it Jacksually, he's he's probably the most popular player
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville right now. Um, but that's a question. He's
Speaker 1: gonna have to make a decision his family, his future,
Speaker 1: like kind of the business, what he wants to do.
Speaker 1: But the one the only thing I know is you
Speaker 1: can't pay him what he's due. You can't. You can't
Speaker 1: pay him, You can't play morcel Darius, and you can't
Speaker 1: joy three big names now and you might tell Andrew
Speaker 1: normal they are caught the big name today unique in Goquay.
Speaker 1: And he had some comments after the game last night
Speaker 1: when it was asked about his future in Jacksonville. Are
Speaker 1: you willing to listen to the Jags or do you not?
Speaker 1: I won't even do that in like I said, I
Speaker 1: mean for four years, I learnt a lot. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Business is business and uh, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure for the future. Holes. Like I said, man, I
Speaker 1: learned a lot about this organization for being here for
Speaker 1: four years business business, and I don't know the future.
Speaker 1: Like I said it in for four years and learn
Speaker 1: a lot about this organization the business business. I've been
Speaker 1: here for four years and learned a lot. Was that
Speaker 1: the answer that it was the answer to every question
Speaker 1: about the future for him in Jacksonville. And of course
Speaker 1: it translate that it's if they paid me. I'm staying.
Speaker 1: If they don't, I'm going unless they tag me. Well,
Speaker 1: you tag him if you're jackson of course, and not
Speaker 1: that you don't not that by tagging, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: you don't try to get any long term deal done.
Speaker 1: But you tag him so you have some leverage. It's
Speaker 1: about leverage. You tag him. Can I can I interject
Speaker 1: something here? I think this deal is more likely to
Speaker 1: get done now that Tom is gone. Just from stuff
Speaker 1: I've heard and was told, I think this deal is
Speaker 1: much more likely to get done now that Tom's gone.
Speaker 1: How much would you pay him? That's a tough one Tony,
Speaker 1: because that's that's the one. Look am I paying him?
Speaker 1: He turned down that he had a better year than
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence did, okay, Pete, he has yeah, he turned
Speaker 1: down nineteen million in the last two years. He has
Speaker 1: a total of seventeen sacks. Or you have nine last
Speaker 1: year and nine and a half I know you have
Speaker 1: eight this year. Um, So he had seventeen seventeen a
Speaker 1: half sacks in two years. He is identity, He's a
Speaker 1: he's a splash player. He is a guy who plays
Speaker 1: his tail off. He's you know, he's the perfect guy
Speaker 1: as far as taking care of his business. You want
Speaker 1: him in the locker room. He had nine and a
Speaker 1: half last year, eight this year. So seventeen a half
Speaker 1: sacks and two years. Are you paying twenty million plus
Speaker 1: for that? Pete? For an average of so he's he's
Speaker 1: how many he has thirty seven total sacks? I think
Speaker 1: it is seven and a half. So over four years
Speaker 1: he's averaging under tenure, under ten s accident year. And
Speaker 1: that's what he is. He's a pass rusher. It's not
Speaker 1: I mean he is. He played the run better this year,
Speaker 1: without a doubt, but it's not like he's not. That's
Speaker 1: not where he's that's not his strength. So for and
Speaker 1: so for nine and basically he's averaging nine and a
Speaker 1: half sacks a year over four years. Are you paying
Speaker 1: twenty he turned down nineteen. I've already wants twenty one.
Speaker 1: Are you paying that? Let's put this way. De Marcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence just got it last year and he has fifteen
Speaker 1: and a half sacks in the last two years, including
Speaker 1: five this year. Uh, in the last three years he
Speaker 1: has twenty four and five twenty nine. Frank Clark has
Speaker 1: twenty one in the last two years, and he got it. Now.
Speaker 1: Are they better run players than he is? Pray Clark
Speaker 1: is for sure? Uh? Yeah, and I'd say de Marcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence is too. But when you pay a guy like that,
Speaker 1: you're not paying him for his run defense, you know that,
Speaker 1: So you'd pay him twenty one? I b I almost
Speaker 1: think it's one of those you're damned if you do
Speaker 1: and damned if you don't. I'm asking you, Pete go,
Speaker 1: Mr wanna be. I tag him. I would tag him,
Speaker 1: and the tag on the tag is going to be
Speaker 1: probably seventeen this year. I tag him and then see
Speaker 1: what he does and then if he goes out and
Speaker 1: has because he took a while to get going this year,
Speaker 1: that could easily been double digit side. Wouldn't he hurt
Speaker 1: early in the season for about hand, Yeah, but he
Speaker 1: was also hurt like he wasn't the same guy earlier
Speaker 1: in the season. You can see that, So that could
Speaker 1: easily have been ten ten and a half. So you're
Speaker 1: you're par leading towards paying. Here's why, Tony, I think
Speaker 1: when you come to the line of scrimmage in the NFL,
Speaker 1: you know this as well as anybody got one guy
Speaker 1: over here, you can rush the pastor you've got another
Speaker 1: guy over here can rush the pastor. That's a foundation
Speaker 1: for your defense. That gives you in the current NFL,
Speaker 1: gives you the ability to go chase down quarterbacks. If
Speaker 1: you get rid of him, then everything becomes all about
Speaker 1: Alan and you don't have to you have one. Now,
Speaker 1: could you find one in the draft? Maybe, but aren't
Speaker 1: you better off bringing him back on a tag or
Speaker 1: getting a deal done to have an Alan in there?
Speaker 1: Then you maybe you get Klais on a cheap deal
Speaker 1: or a cheaper deal, and then you go draft Derek
Speaker 1: Brown from Auburn, put him inside David Bryant's actually played
Speaker 1: well the last month, and he was pretty good yesterday.
Speaker 1: Just from the TV taper looked like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to break it to you, but Derrek Brown is not
Speaker 1: gonna be there at nine. He might be. He might
Speaker 1: be tony. I mean, he might be. And then and
Speaker 1: then you can get or if you take an offensive
Speaker 1: lineman there, come back and get a defensive lineman at
Speaker 1: the top at the at the next pick. The bottom
Speaker 1: line is, I think if you can get a big
Speaker 1: power inside player to go with that group, you have
Speaker 1: the foundation of a heck of a front, and I
Speaker 1: think they need that. So I'm thinking I would be
Speaker 1: concerned if I let that lead the building. It's gonna
Speaker 1: go get sixteen seventeen sacks somewhere else on a and
Speaker 1: then maybe sixteen and twelve with thirteen on a consistent basis.
Speaker 1: That would be my concerned. What if he doesn't sign
Speaker 1: the tender, well, then he's then he's getting bad advice.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna make any money right right. Then? The
Speaker 1: bottom line is you're a year, an earning year is
Speaker 1: going off your body. You only have so many left
Speaker 1: in him. Uh, he would sign it. So the one
Speaker 1: thing is if I'm bringing him back, I'm tagging him
Speaker 1: and trying. I'm trying to work out a deal, but
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tag him. Um because if you tag him.
Speaker 1: The other thing is if you struggle to get a
Speaker 1: deal done, you can trade him the what could you
Speaker 1: get for him in theory, Well, they got a one
Speaker 1: for Frank Clark. You're not getting one for him, but
Speaker 1: you might get a team, a desperate team and in
Speaker 1: need that takes its close of a pass rush year.
Speaker 1: Do you think Frank Clark's better? Uh, unique, he's yes,
Speaker 1: just this year. He probably has it because he's been
Speaker 1: hurt all year. But I think healthy he's a little
Speaker 1: bit better than him. Yeah. Us. But one thing for
Speaker 1: sure is if I'm not playing I'm not playing Yahn
Speaker 1: at defensive end stand up guy when you can play
Speaker 1: Alan in that position. To I'm playing him as a
Speaker 1: sam linebacker in first and second down and then and Nickel,
Speaker 1: I'll put his hand on the ground, let him rest
Speaker 1: a passer. I just don't think he's big enough to
Speaker 1: hold up playing and play out. It's not his strength. Uh,
Speaker 1: he was better this year to play a you know,
Speaker 1: hand in the ground defensive end line up and on
Speaker 1: tight on the tight end and a sixth technique just
Speaker 1: I mean getting double team. I mean, that's not his strength.
Speaker 1: He's not John is not a big man. He's an
Speaker 1: athletic man. He's a powerful man, but he's not a
Speaker 1: big guy. What is he? Six one? Yeah? Right right
Speaker 1: at that? So he should be playing are in the
Speaker 1: three four principles because you're not really three four? He
Speaker 1: should be standing up with the other book end standing
Speaker 1: up on the other side. Let's come back, By the way,
Speaker 1: j in that scenario, you get Josh Allen on the
Speaker 1: field more than his usual snaps. Again, so I'm all
Speaker 1: for then. I think you gotta play to what you have.
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. He's only twenty four now, he's young,
Speaker 1: young guy. We'll come back. Let's get back on the
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Speaker 1: The aftermath of the season finale, I'll win over the Colts.
Speaker 1: Big questions moving ahead, certainly for this organization, and one
Speaker 1: of those is at the quarterback position. Gardner Minshew six
Speaker 1: and six as a starter this year, Nick Foles oh
Speaker 1: and four as a starter. You just heard from Nick
Speaker 1: there he's does it sound like he wants to be
Speaker 1: a backup? Sounds like he wants to come play. Well,
Speaker 1: he might not have a choice. I mean unless he's
Speaker 1: willing to take a pay cut and get traded, which
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why he would. Um, he's gonna have
Speaker 1: to go beat Dot Minshew, and right now I would
Speaker 1: give the edge to Gardner Minshew in that in that
Speaker 1: battle as you go into office, the office is making
Speaker 1: the decision. Well as of right now, it's it's duck
Speaker 1: As it stands now, it's duck um. And I think
Speaker 1: based on how the season finished in that last game,
Speaker 1: that Gardner Minshew as a clear you know, head start
Speaker 1: in the race to get to grab the number one
Speaker 1: quarterback position here in Jacksonville. He surprised me yesterday with
Speaker 1: the way he played. He hadn't been playing like that.
Speaker 1: So I said something on Twitter, Pete right, No, I try.
Speaker 1: I said it on the show tonight this morning with
Speaker 1: Dan and Jeff. They asked me why was the offense
Speaker 1: so much more dynamic, explosive, And one of the things
Speaker 1: I said, I said, you know, Leonard Fournette wasn't in there.
Speaker 1: And Leonard Fournette had a great year this year, great year, fabulous,
Speaker 1: did everything you ask. But it felt like, and if
Speaker 1: you go look at the first fifteen plays that were scripted,
Speaker 1: they threw it much more. They came out throwing it,
Speaker 1: moving the pocket, getting to going, and it felt like
Speaker 1: that they weren't trying to force the offense through Leonard.
Speaker 1: Now that's not Leonard's fault, he just he does whatever
Speaker 1: they call. But I I wonder not only D Flippo
Speaker 1: can answer this. Did D Filippo feel like he had
Speaker 1: to get letter going early in games and because of that,
Speaker 1: trying to force everything on the ground, everyone knowing that
Speaker 1: loading the box make it very difficult for Leonard to
Speaker 1: run the ball, where this week it felt like it
Speaker 1: was much more opened up. That was just a feeling
Speaker 1: I had watching the game. The game it did, it
Speaker 1: did feel much more opened up. The backs looked because
Speaker 1: Leonard has had a good year, but the backs look quicker,
Speaker 1: more explosive. Is that accurate? Um? I didn't come away
Speaker 1: thinking they're more explosive or quicker. I came away feeling.
Speaker 1: I came away feeling like D. Filippo's said, we don't
Speaker 1: have our star back in there, so we're gonna ended
Speaker 1: up spread it out and do some different stuff. That's
Speaker 1: what it felt like to me. But you didn't think
Speaker 1: that there was a significant drop off to those backs
Speaker 1: because I didn't. Um. I mean, in fairness, the letter
Speaker 1: now he had seventy six catches and but Armstead caught
Speaker 1: the ball. He did have the one drop. He caught
Speaker 1: the ball out of the back. Here let's say, but
Speaker 1: I mean Leonard had over a thousand yards. Leonard had
Speaker 1: a good year. I'm gonna give him credit. I just
Speaker 1: don't think there's a significant amount of difference when I
Speaker 1: say that about most Backstead played. You think if Arms
Speaker 1: had played the same amount of reps that Leonard did
Speaker 1: the numbers, he would have had a thout. It would
Speaker 1: have a thousand yards. I don't know if he would
Speaker 1: have seventy catches or whatever Leonard had, but he would
Speaker 1: have had fifty. Interesting, and I don't know that. I
Speaker 1: mean it. Backs are so interchangeable. I want to go
Speaker 1: to go to the Eagles game yesterday. Jordan Howard wasn't playing,
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders got hurt. Boston Scottland in there and ran wild.
Speaker 1: They picked them up off the scrap heap. So you're saying,
Speaker 1: any back and go in there and do it, not
Speaker 1: any back. I just don't think the difference is that.
Speaker 1: You don't think there's that big a difference between Chris
Speaker 1: McCaffrey and that's different. Now you're talking about a thousand
Speaker 1: thousand guy. That's a different, entirely different animals. How about
Speaker 1: the backs in Seattle last night? They can go in anywhere, right,
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch, here he comes? How about man about Marshawn Lynch.
Speaker 1: He came in and rushed with three point under three
Speaker 1: yards per carry. Meanwhile, the other kid had six That
Speaker 1: you pick up in the fifth, sixth round is a
Speaker 1: rookie who was the better back in that game? Marsh
Speaker 1: Lynch hasn't played football like a year, but he's not
Speaker 1: a better But everybody's going crazy, Homer was a better
Speaker 1: player last night. Okay, but that's kind of the point
Speaker 1: to those guys that are that are around this time
Speaker 1: of year, there's a million of them. You know, certainly
Speaker 1: don't draft one fourth overall? Is there a back in
Speaker 1: the league today that you draft fourth overall? McCaffrey would
Speaker 1: be one of them, But even then, I wouldn't The
Speaker 1: position of the value of the position isn't there ton't.
Speaker 1: I'm not taking the back of that not if I
Speaker 1: need what if I needed? If I have a choice
Speaker 1: between Von Miller and Christian McCaffrey, who am I take it? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go through every position. Okay, let's do this
Speaker 1: all right, Quarterback, You're always taking quarterback Julio Jones, Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: The way the game is played, I'd rather that Julio Jones,
Speaker 1: George Kiddle, McCay. That one's tough for me, but i'd
Speaker 1: probably take McCaffrey, Kelsey or McCaffrey. No tight end, although
Speaker 1: there aren't a lot of tight ends, so it's tough.
Speaker 1: It's a tough position to fix. So it's a coin
Speaker 1: for you there. Yeah, Okay, Lane Johnson right tackle or
Speaker 1: one of the better I just say, because he's one
Speaker 1: of the better ones, or Mitchell Schwartz or I take
Speaker 1: I take the tackle, Zach Zack Martin and right guard,
Speaker 1: or Christian McCaffrey. I probably take McCaffrey, Rodney Hudson at
Speaker 1: center for the Raiders or any of the good centers
Speaker 1: out there, or Christian McCaffrey. I probably take a center,
Speaker 1: Quinton Nelson, quitt Nelson or McCaffrey. I probably take Quittin Nelson.
Speaker 1: I want my line, I can, I can run the
Speaker 1: ball off. My line is good, Tyrone Smith Smith for sure. Okay, alright,
Speaker 1: so we went through all those. Uh you already said
Speaker 1: von miller Um Aaron Donald, Aaron Donald or that's Donald. Okay,
Speaker 1: Bobby Bobby, Bobby Wagner or Christian McCaffrey. Bobby Wagner has
Speaker 1: played great this year. Okay, you know what I'm saying. Darius,
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard or christ McCaffrey. Probably take McCaffrey. Okay, uh,
Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmore and McCaffrey Gilmore. Who's the best safety in
Speaker 1: football right now? Durwin James or McCaffrey Derwin js. So
Speaker 1: that one's kind of that one's kind of closed safety,
Speaker 1: kind of close. But the value positions pass rusher, whether
Speaker 1: he's inside, outside tackle, center a great center, really you know,
Speaker 1: don't you You know how valuable those guys are. And
Speaker 1: then the big play receiver. I don't think that Michael
Speaker 1: Thomas and Christian McCaffrey, Michael Thomas. See, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: The only one I might disagree is is the receiver.
Speaker 1: Because a great running game, who can a guy McCaffrey
Speaker 1: that can catch it in the backfield? That's tough. If
Speaker 1: we look at the teams that can't have don't have that.
Speaker 1: Look at the Patriots. Imagine if they had Michael Thomas
Speaker 1: on their team. Go look at the teams that can't
Speaker 1: run the ball, Pete. The teams you can run the
Speaker 1: ball in the playoffs, they run the ball because their
Speaker 1: lines are good. All I'm saying is the difference between
Speaker 1: this running back and one and fifteen. For example, we
Speaker 1: came into the season thinking David Johnson was a top
Speaker 1: ten running back. He's not even the number one running
Speaker 1: back on his own team anymore. He might not be
Speaker 1: the second running back on his own team anymore. That's
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying is I think the value of
Speaker 1: the position and the difference between one and twenty isn't
Speaker 1: that great. Whereas if you look through you go to
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's position, and you go the difference between one
Speaker 1: and twenty. You're talking about Aaron Donald and David Bryant.
Speaker 1: So what are the what are the what are the
Speaker 1: what positions are you not taking in the top ten
Speaker 1: of a draft? You're not taking running back? Not taking
Speaker 1: running back? I'd be I'd be here's my philosophy on
Speaker 1: the guard unless he's unreal, And I'd be hard pressed
Speaker 1: to take the guard because I think you could take
Speaker 1: a college tackle in the third or fourth round and
Speaker 1: move him inside and make him a guard. I believe
Speaker 1: that I've seen it happen. It's happened all over the league.
Speaker 1: Guys like Yonda, Um, you know Zack Martin, all those
Speaker 1: guys they moved inside because they weren't good enough to
Speaker 1: play tackle, but they could play guard. Let's come back,
Speaker 1: let's do We'll take a look at the draft order. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Shadrick Pete Prisco, Tony Vaselli. Jacks finished the season six
Speaker 1: and ten. Uh the that by the way, of course,
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Speaker 1: twenty draft selections are and we know all the teams
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Speaker 1: now have the ninth overall pick, so if we wo
Speaker 1: have overall pick via the Los Angeles Rams, so nine
Speaker 1: and twenty. If we were to lost that game, six six,
Speaker 1: I believe it could have been could have been six.
Speaker 1: Are you only win the game and not worry about
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Speaker 1: draft picks? It depends what had I have on You
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Speaker 1: as a player, you don't care about draft picks or
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Speaker 1: I didn't care about the draft. And I think as
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Speaker 1: the draft pick either. You want to win the GM.
Speaker 1: It's depending on where you sit. If you're a GM.
Speaker 1: I think who is solidified in their role and everything else.
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Speaker 1: if we lose this, I'll be okay with that, get
Speaker 1: a better draft pick. Owner fans, I, I would think
Speaker 1: you're want to as I think it's the GM and
Speaker 1: the owner of the team. You want to win that
Speaker 1: game just because winning is way better than losing. But
Speaker 1: then if you take the big picture in the in
Speaker 1: the account, you're saying, I'd much rather be picking six
Speaker 1: than nine. About if you're the Dolphins, you lose, you
Speaker 1: win five games to surprise everybody, and the tanking's all
Speaker 1: out of the window, and you still end up with
Speaker 1: the top five pick. That's a good season for the Dolphins. Well,
Speaker 1: but here's the other thing. You know, I think you
Speaker 1: agree with this unless there's that quarterback that you know
Speaker 1: you just want where you need to get him at
Speaker 1: one or two or you know, depending on the number
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks. Doesn't it more than anything about coming It's
Speaker 1: about picking the right guy. Because listen, Luke jocol number
Speaker 1: two overall pick, how did that work out? Not well?
Speaker 1: Not very good? That was bad? That was it a draft?
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not even peking the draft. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying about getting the right guy. Traded back draft
Speaker 1: but didn't in the long run, didn't work out. It
Speaker 1: never did. Did he got a new deal? Okay, but
Speaker 1: it didn't correct. Uh Fowler, wrong guy got hurt. But
Speaker 1: it was never the right guy for this. It didn't
Speaker 1: work out. You trade him, got on a third or
Speaker 1: fifth round or whatever. It was third and fifth baby,
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, great player, got two first rounders, but not here.
Speaker 1: He's not here? What about Tyson Allola? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you go through it. It's about picking the right guy
Speaker 1: more than anything. So whether you're six or nine, pick
Speaker 1: the right guy, meaning pick a good player, because all
Speaker 1: the time you've great players come in the middle of
Speaker 1: the first, end of the first Yes, you'd rather have
Speaker 1: higher picks. It gives you, you know, a better opportunity
Speaker 1: to pick the guy you want. But I I think
Speaker 1: you know outside the quarterback man, just get the right guy,
Speaker 1: the guy that fits what you want to do, that's
Speaker 1: a good player that loves football, Josh Allen and pick
Speaker 1: that guy Josh Allen's that seems like it. And he
Speaker 1: fell to them. I mean that was like a surprise.
Speaker 1: They didn't think they're going to get him. But you
Speaker 1: can go through the history of the draft for this
Speaker 1: team or any other team. Yes, if you're not in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, you want to have a higher pick without
Speaker 1: a doubt. But just just having a higher pick does
Speaker 1: not guarantee you you get the right guy. And we've
Speaker 1: seen that, and that's I'm not taking a shot at anybody.
Speaker 1: That's just that's a fact. And so I'd rather be six.
Speaker 1: But I felt good to win yesterday. So we're nine.
Speaker 1: Would you consider packaging picks to move up at all? No,
Speaker 1: you need two players instead of one. I think there's
Speaker 1: enough holes in this roster right now, and the roster
Speaker 1: has enough issues that you need multiple players, multiple starters.
Speaker 1: You need to fix starters. You have three picks in
Speaker 1: the first forty picks or forty one picks, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: three in the first forty one. You need three starters.
Speaker 1: You need to pick three starters with those guys. They
Speaker 1: have to be good starters next year. That's a lot.
Speaker 1: That's where I mean. When you have a bunch of
Speaker 1: draft picks that you picked no longer on your team,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I think you have to keep the picks.
Speaker 1: I don't think you package but I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: you disagree you need three starters out of this draft.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question about that. To rebuild
Speaker 1: the foundation of the of the of the team for
Speaker 1: a quarterback, you're not doing if you have to get
Speaker 1: a name or do a lot of these guys and
Speaker 1: somehow Folds is not around. I don't know one of
Speaker 1: the rookies, one of the guys. You're not gonna give
Speaker 1: up your whole draft to go up to one to
Speaker 1: give Burrows. I already told you I think about uh
Speaker 1: to uh. I worry about the injuries. Herbert from Oregon
Speaker 1: is big arm guy, wildly inaccurate Eastan. You gotta do
Speaker 1: a lot of work on him, so you know how
Speaker 1: that always goes. Though they kind of talk him and
Speaker 1: then they end up at the top of the draft
Speaker 1: board on draft night. A lot of times they do,
Speaker 1: so I would not I don't think, I mean I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do the work. I would do the work on
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. But I think I'm getting hopefully three starters
Speaker 1: with those top forty one picks. I'm starting to rebuild
Speaker 1: the roster, rebuild some depth, and uh, see what and
Speaker 1: see what meant you can do this year and if that,
Speaker 1: and then maybe I have to draft the quarterback next year.
Speaker 1: Our one in the books, Our two on deck. We'll
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Speaker 1: locker clean out day, we'll hear from some of the
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Speaker 1: team win. And I did that better name Ricky quarterback.
Speaker 1: So I guess we fired up a little bit. But
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of can't help. But you know,
Speaker 1: compare yourself to those guys, um, you know, especially when
Speaker 1: they get taken for you. Um, you know, the kind
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Speaker 1: Gardner meant you in the locker room today discussing his
Speaker 1: thoughts on his statistics and wins versus other rookie quarterbacks
Speaker 1: totals this year. A second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour underway.
Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Tony was Selly, Pete Prisco. This is
Speaker 1: our final Monday show of the season. We won't have
Speaker 1: any more after Thank goodness. By the way, I like
Speaker 1: his cockiness and it's pretty. He's got a little something
Speaker 1: to him, right, Pete, I like it. I like it.
Speaker 1: I would said the same thing better. You're just as
Speaker 1: good as a better you know. It's just and they
Speaker 1: took it a little shot. I won more than any
Speaker 1: of them. I think that's great. I think he believes
Speaker 1: in himself and I think that's good. Quick note a
Speaker 1: couple of quick notes. Number nine draft picks in recent years,
Speaker 1: two of note Luke Keikley, Tyron Smith. Can we have
Speaker 1: those two right now? Yeah? You wish? And the last
Speaker 1: time the Jaguars picked number nine, you know they picked No,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Tyson Nope, he was ten.
Speaker 1: Reggie Williams. Wow, I think I'll take keikly you think,
Speaker 1: I mean there's I just look to see if what
Speaker 1: kind of player you get in the nine spot. There's
Speaker 1: a nice mix there. You get two great players like that.
Speaker 1: You have a couple like Leonard Floyd was in the
Speaker 1: nine spot. He's not a bad player, he's not a
Speaker 1: great player. Uh D Milner was kind of a bust
Speaker 1: in that spot. So you get a mix of guys
Speaker 1: at number nine. But those are the two best in
Speaker 1: the last fifteen years. So what do is gardner? Men?
Speaker 1: You need to do in your mind to be the
Speaker 1: guy to be a franchise quarterback that you can go
Speaker 1: win because all that matters. I mean, here's you know,
Speaker 1: everyone says you know, well you can win. You know
Speaker 1: has mints you Is he the guys that folds? Here's
Speaker 1: my question. Is that individual who's playing quarterback for you?
Speaker 1: Does he have the ability and the capabilities to win
Speaker 1: a trophy? We're you're sitting there holding the party trophy
Speaker 1: at the end of the year. Can he win the
Speaker 1: big one? Can he get you there and can he
Speaker 1: win it? Well? I think he'd have to have a
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff around him. Go right. I I like
Speaker 1: what I saw from him yesterday more than any game
Speaker 1: I've seen him play, including the early ones. I thought
Speaker 1: he was more decisive the ball came out, he read
Speaker 1: the field better. It was vertical to Pete, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was much. This was the game that me and I
Speaker 1: told you last week. I thought, I don't know, he's
Speaker 1: a backup. He stood in there, he the throws. He
Speaker 1: just looked much more comfortable in this game. And he
Speaker 1: looked like a guy that could be a starting quarterback
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and and up until yesterday, I wasn't
Speaker 1: so sure about that. Give me two things he has
Speaker 1: to improve to be pocket presence first and foremost for me,
Speaker 1: And by that I mean the fanom pressure at times
Speaker 1: he felt and yesterday he was better at it, but
Speaker 1: you still see glimpses of it. That's number one. Um
Speaker 1: Number two is probably identifying the coverages because I thought
Speaker 1: there were times where he got tricked at points in
Speaker 1: this season, and that comes with playing. I think as
Speaker 1: he plays, he's a smart kid. He'll get better at it.
Speaker 1: Is your arm strength still a knock? Yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: one thing. I still think his arm needs get a
Speaker 1: little bit stronger so you can drive the ball down
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. This was the first game
Speaker 1: in the second half that we saw him work in
Speaker 1: the middle of the field between the hashes. Do you
Speaker 1: do you think that he doesn't work the middle of
Speaker 1: the hashes because he knows his arm isn't that good.
Speaker 1: Either that or he can't see it. You know, he's
Speaker 1: not the biggest guy. You know. You know Drew Brees,
Speaker 1: you ever talked to, you know, listen to Drew Brees.
Speaker 1: He sees it through lanes and he learned to be
Speaker 1: able to see through lanes and and he's so good
Speaker 1: and he knows what's happening down the field. He can
Speaker 1: anticipate and see it. And he told me through one
Speaker 1: year he threw a hundred and something passes without seeing
Speaker 1: the receiver because he knows the coverage and he knows
Speaker 1: where the receiver's supposed to be, and they rep it
Speaker 1: and rep and repping. I think you got to do
Speaker 1: that with Minshew. It's got to get to something like that.
Speaker 1: He's got to be one of those cerebral quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: are asked to get stronger. You're right, excuse me, no
Speaker 1: question about that. That's the only I mean, that's the
Speaker 1: big question I have with Gardner is can he develop
Speaker 1: a little more. It's not like it's not like he's
Speaker 1: a super weak arm, but you just get that one
Speaker 1: extra notch where he can drive it in the middle
Speaker 1: of the field. And can he get proficient enough and
Speaker 1: reading defenses because he's not always gonna see it over
Speaker 1: the middle because all the bodies in front of the
Speaker 1: big offensive linem because he's not a big man. Where
Speaker 1: he can get so proficient and understanding defenses and see
Speaker 1: it through the lanes and be able to work the
Speaker 1: entire field. How do you work on arm strength? Doesn't
Speaker 1: weight room stuff? Is it on the throwing? I mean
Speaker 1: it worked for him. Whatever he did, Yeah, whatever. I'd
Speaker 1: start talking to Drew Brees, Tom Brady, those type of
Speaker 1: guys say hey, what do you guys do? Because well
Speaker 1: they don't. You remember Drew Brees came out of Ford
Speaker 1: with the knock that his arm wasn't good enough and
Speaker 1: then he tore his rotator cuff and labor ham and
Speaker 1: everything else and he had to rebuild his arm and
Speaker 1: he was the bionic man. Yeah he's not. And Drew's
Speaker 1: never had the strongest arm, but it's good enough. He
Speaker 1: can drive the ball down the field. Yeah, you have
Speaker 1: to be able to drive the ball. I think the
Speaker 1: first and foremost that's number one, and that you're right, Tony,
Speaker 1: that's a big issue, But you gotta mid pocket presence
Speaker 1: and deciphering defenses are two other problems for him. Well.
Speaker 1: The the recognition of defenses you have to believe and
Speaker 1: because he's smart, is going to improve with experience. He'll
Speaker 1: just have seen things and he is very cerebral. Um.
Speaker 1: The pocket presence, yeah, I know what you're saying, Pete,
Speaker 1: but I thought it was great yesterday. I thought, at
Speaker 1: times at the beginning the year, he's very good. He
Speaker 1: went on, he went to a stretch where he was
Speaker 1: trusting his legs too much, so it was real quick,
Speaker 1: and yesterday you saw him take a deep breath, go
Speaker 1: through the progressions and run much less than we had
Speaker 1: seen leading up to the game against the Colts. It
Speaker 1: was also protected better. I thought, well, that helps you
Speaker 1: gotta Yeah, that's why we're talking about you probably need
Speaker 1: a draft it offensive line maybe too. We were talking
Speaker 1: about this on the postgame show last night of the
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. How many you're back starting next year? Slender
Speaker 1: and Taylor, I think Norwell's coming back. I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I think he's coming back. He might have to take
Speaker 1: a cut or restructuring or skimming or whatever they want
Speaker 1: to call it. Right now, he has to be willing
Speaker 1: to do that. But if you go look, you gotta
Speaker 1: look at his overall grades. Um, I think it wasn't bad.
Speaker 1: It wasn't it was it was above average. I think
Speaker 1: either you draft a left tackle, move Cam inside or
Speaker 1: let him compete for the left tackle job, or if
Speaker 1: you don't get a left tackle in the draft that
Speaker 1: you're think it can be that starter. I would move
Speaker 1: Will Richardson out to left tackle, where he started the
Speaker 1: first two weeks of the season. I thought he played
Speaker 1: pretty well, and I'd make an open competition between Cam
Speaker 1: Robinson and Will works Like. I just looked at a
Speaker 1: mock draft that had them picking number nine and they
Speaker 1: had him taking Ceedee Lamb with Andrew Thomas the left
Speaker 1: tackle on at Georgia on the board. I can't see
Speaker 1: that happening in a million years. Um, I would not
Speaker 1: think so. I think that would be a mistake. And
Speaker 1: then they had him taken a corner with the pick.
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at this, you look at this
Speaker 1: team right now, they couldn't stop the run because of
Speaker 1: the front seven. I think the linebackers aren't very good
Speaker 1: right now, and you have a front with the lost
Speaker 1: Darius and he's getting older. We talked about class getting older.
Speaker 1: Your unique is not a big run stuffer. I think
Speaker 1: Josh Allen can be outstanding at it. Uh Taman Bryant.
Speaker 1: Bryant's is two up and down. Still, uh showed some
Speaker 1: flashes of some good stuff. Avery had his best year
Speaker 1: when he was a rotational player, not the starter his
Speaker 1: best years, So I really think you need big people.
Speaker 1: I would focus on the middle of the defense, defensive tackles,
Speaker 1: middle linebacker, safety. So wait, so you're you're drafting a
Speaker 1: middle linebacker and admitting that the paying paying Miles Jack
Speaker 1: was a mistake. Then well, I'm moving him to Will
Speaker 1: because I don't think he's the middle lineback. Then you're
Speaker 1: admitting that drafting Quincy Williams was a mistake. I'm moving
Speaker 1: him to Will. I don't think he's a middle linebacker,
Speaker 1: and I think you need to draft a middle linebacker.
Speaker 1: Well Tony, if they go to a three four hybrid look,
Speaker 1: he might too be we say he might be too
Speaker 1: little for the inside on that defense, but Lavante David
Speaker 1: made a nice transition to playing it in Tampa for
Speaker 1: top bowls. Who you're saying, who might be too little
Speaker 1: for that? Jack Jack Pete? Have you seen him lately?
Speaker 1: There's nothing little about him. He was actually but yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gained some weight. Uh, there's nothing with another story nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it looked like he did. And I know he's had
Speaker 1: problems with that in the pass. So but so could
Speaker 1: you play him in that role next to another linebacker
Speaker 1: with go Way and and Alan as your edge guys
Speaker 1: in that situation and you would play and if you
Speaker 1: brought class down, he would be one of the down guys.
Speaker 1: Avery Jones might be one and maybe Tavin Bryan would
Speaker 1: be the other. So you're now you're so are you
Speaker 1: saying if you were you'd get rid of Todd Wash
Speaker 1: I'd consider it. And I don't think if you're Doug
Speaker 1: Brown you can get rid of your coordinators if you're back,
Speaker 1: because I think it's really hard to hire top end
Speaker 1: coordinators if they know it's a one year, proven type
Speaker 1: of deal. And what if that's what they want in
Speaker 1: terms of him to do is to get rid of
Speaker 1: his coordinators and go find new ones again. I think
Speaker 1: it's hard if you don't have a multi year commitment
Speaker 1: to go get the good coaches because the really the
Speaker 1: top end coaches have options, well, the top end ones do.
Speaker 1: But San Francisco took a to Robert Sala off the
Speaker 1: off the jag Wars thing and made him into a
Speaker 1: heck of a coach. He's getting now, he's getting now,
Speaker 1: he's getting head coaching interviews, second times at chart. I'm
Speaker 1: good job beaton So I love that. It's not I
Speaker 1: know what it is. It's solid, but you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that that to me is like somebody you
Speaker 1: could find somebody like that, will you to take a
Speaker 1: one year deal. I probably won't take a one year deal,
Speaker 1: but if he's good enough, they might keep hell and
Speaker 1: might make him the head coach. Yeah maybe, I mean
Speaker 1: let me see what. Yeah, Josh Allen yesterday, how many
Speaker 1: snaps do you think I would say you're low? It's
Speaker 1: thirty two. It's not enough. Well, you did get a stinger.
Speaker 1: He missed a couple of series. I think there are
Speaker 1: fifty six snaps on defense. By the way, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: he played, he played, he played yesterday was okay, yesterday
Speaker 1: was better because not a lot of guys played that
Speaker 1: many snaps. Will you admit that? Will you say admit
Speaker 1: like we want answers? Sony was good yesterday. This is
Speaker 1: the only game I haven't watched the tape of all year.
Speaker 1: But you were at the game. You saw him. I mean,
Speaker 1: look good. He had a couple of splash players. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: To me, his is a consistency issue, and he got
Speaker 1: better throughout the year. So, I mean, there's no doubt
Speaker 1: about that force fumble. I don't even think he saw
Speaker 1: it come out. He was getting ready to dance he
Speaker 1: kicked it. Quick question, are Ronnie Harrison and Jared Wilson
Speaker 1: is starting safeties in two thousand and twenty. I think
Speaker 1: you got a draft a safety. I agree. So you
Speaker 1: need a corner, a safety, a line middle, linebacker, and
Speaker 1: a big body on defense. Might as well just overhaul
Speaker 1: the whole damn thing. That's where we are. Let's what
Speaker 1: you need on offense, it's a line tight end, maybe
Speaker 1: two Titans. You need a back or two at least
Speaker 1: one back, wide receiver, playmaker, wide receiver, movie I wide
Speaker 1: receivers down the line. For me, the Jones kid looked
Speaker 1: like a big body guy or something in the last
Speaker 1: eight months around there. It didn't stand out to me, Pete,
Speaker 1: but I was, you know, maybe how do he look
Speaker 1: like he was decent in the run game. He's a
Speaker 1: good he's a good run blocker. It was always the book.
Speaker 1: He's a very good run blocker. So maybe another maybe
Speaker 1: another tight end. And but you need you need someone
Speaker 1: dynamic that worked. You know, in the perfect world, you
Speaker 1: have your run blocker, let's say Charles Jones, and you
Speaker 1: have a you know, a good hybrid, a guy who
Speaker 1: can is a sufficient blocker, but can really stress of defense. Uh,
Speaker 1: in the past game, let's come back the way Andrew
Speaker 1: Norwell real quick. That's great. Highest to the offensive players.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, yesterday. There you have it. Social media
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Speaker 1: guys that got an opportunity to play today. And some
Speaker 1: of our guys that are are are are been here
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Speaker 1: we won this game not because of anything else, all right,
Speaker 1: but because of the guys in the shroom. Great job,
Speaker 1: Si Bill Characters. When we went through this year and
Speaker 1: why we finish, is gonna buil character? That's when I
Speaker 1: was the gold places next year, whoever gonna be here, man,
Speaker 1: put the work in this what could be? How every
Speaker 1: game shill best in the busy game home. You're winning
Speaker 1: the busy games. You wanted a busion, You're gonna playoffs
Speaker 1: to give a stuff a chance. I appreciate everybody here, man,
Speaker 1: every family, draw, every family. We stayed together through it all,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate you last time a family all three.
Speaker 1: It's in the locker room yesterday after the Jaguars win,
Speaker 1: Doug Marone and then Calais Campbell breaking the team down.
Speaker 1: Jaguars happy hour continues. We're also family here. That family
Speaker 1: is breaking up. This family stays together. That's right. Uh?
Speaker 1: Do you buy the carryover of winning the last game?
Speaker 1: And no, no, never, it's different teams. How could it
Speaker 1: carry over? Space contorted like a like you just said.
Speaker 1: You used to say that all the time. I got no, Tom,
Speaker 1: it doesn't carry over, doesn't. I don't think any either.
Speaker 1: It feels good. Yeah, and you go into the off season, Okay,
Speaker 1: we want a game? Does it? Would you rather be
Speaker 1: eight Nate and lose the last one or your record
Speaker 1: what it is now and win that last one? Come on?
Speaker 1: Doesn't carry over? So the teams that losing the postseason
Speaker 1: that carries over to No, it does. None of it
Speaker 1: carries over. It's it's entirely different teams. They're how many
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be starting in the same spot going
Speaker 1: in the next year. Let's go through it. Okay, starting
Speaker 1: quarterbacks going to be yet defense first, I don't think
Speaker 1: boy Boy will not be back. I do not think.
Speaker 1: I think one of the two safeties will be starting.
Speaker 1: One of them. I Trey Herndon will be starting. I
Speaker 1: think two. D J. Hayden will be your nickel. That's three.
Speaker 1: I think uh Josh Allen, four, Tavin is gonna be starting.
Speaker 1: Five Miles Miles Jack at a different position at will. Okay, um,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna name a three of the five
Speaker 1: offensive linemen, we'll say three, nine, uh chark ten for
Speaker 1: net eleven. That's it. So it's entirely Gibertine. And say, well,
Speaker 1: one of the quarterbacks, the quarterback who's starting is on
Speaker 1: the roster, So eleven, let's say eleven or twelve, right,
Speaker 1: not a lot for carry over. It's a lot of
Speaker 1: new a lot of new faces. By the way, you
Speaker 1: asked me, if Norwell was the highest rated offensive player
Speaker 1: is not for the season? Who is Pete Linder? Brandon Linder?
Speaker 1: The number two ranked offensive player is for the season
Speaker 1: was DJ Chark. Worst grade of all the players on
Speaker 1: the offense went to of the starters. They gave well
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson at a terrible grade. He had by far
Speaker 1: the worst grade. But A. J. Cann's grade wasn't good,
Speaker 1: and they gave Taylor a bad grade. Who's the highest
Speaker 1: rated defensive player for the season. It's easy place, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's easy. Who second? I bet to Trey? Herndon's up there,
Speaker 1: pretty high. He's not He's number one. Klaas number two.
Speaker 1: Here we go. Jackson will have at it. Davin Bryant
Speaker 1: number three, DJ Aiden number four. No. Number three is
Speaker 1: unique and Gagway. Number four is d J. Hayden. Number
Speaker 1: five is um the rest of all read. So I'm
Speaker 1: trying to look you said, Trey Herndon. No, not even close.
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna get the PFF. Like, I think
Speaker 1: they're great, that they're analytics, like all the data they
Speaker 1: put together, trends, and they always has the preface it
Speaker 1: by saying that I do. But however, they're grades. I
Speaker 1: think it's hard to grade a player when you don't
Speaker 1: know what their assignment is. But you can look at
Speaker 1: the body of work and say this guy is in
Speaker 1: the minus for the season, you would David Brian wouldn't
Speaker 1: be the number two player on that defense in any way,
Speaker 1: shape or form. No, that's my point. If you look
Speaker 1: at the defense, no one's gonna say the second best
Speaker 1: player on the defense is Tavin Bryant or the guy
Speaker 1: who had the second best year on defense. Okay, here's
Speaker 1: even better, the second best run defensive grade on the
Speaker 1: team with the Tavin Bryant. Well, they didn't none of
Speaker 1: them played well against the run this year, but run
Speaker 1: defensive grade. But that's it. Let's get to some social questions. UM.
Speaker 1: Let's start off with at J Matt Moore. I think
Speaker 1: the case can be made that minshe played better than
Speaker 1: all the first round quarterbacks, while he's certainly has been
Speaker 1: rather inconsistent in times bad. Do you think that says
Speaker 1: something about his ceiling? What would each of you do
Speaker 1: about the quarterback situation if you were GM? We touched
Speaker 1: on this earlier, but let's rehash it again. Pete, what
Speaker 1: would you do? I would try and get Folds to retire,
Speaker 1: Please Nick, retire, go spend time with the family. That
Speaker 1: would be my first priority. If he wouldn't do that,
Speaker 1: then I would try and trade him. If I couldn't
Speaker 1: trade him, then I'd go to camp with those two
Speaker 1: and go compete for the job with Minshew taken the
Speaker 1: first snaps total, you look exhausted. Well, I mean, Pete
Speaker 1: is like wishing why would he retire? Pete, He's not
Speaker 1: gonna walk away from money? Come on, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he is. I'm saying I would hope he would. I know,
Speaker 1: but that's why you're you're a bad GM. That's dumb.
Speaker 1: That's a good GM. You're getting that money off the
Speaker 1: books at the great GM. No, but you're hoping. You
Speaker 1: don't have a plan Hope is not a plan. Pete Hope.
Speaker 1: It's a good thing. My plan wouldn't have included signing
Speaker 1: into that stupid contract you have him now. Um, I
Speaker 1: think you're going to camp with both of them. I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm not going to trade a draft pick
Speaker 1: for someone to take a salary. No way, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: four to take a salary. Five. You just said you
Speaker 1: wouldn't trade a draft pick. I got you already negotiating
Speaker 1: your down six seven. Um, I give up a five
Speaker 1: for I'm going to camp. I'm going to camp. Mentionoos
Speaker 1: the starter, but it's a competitions who wins it up? Okay,
Speaker 1: but then you go into the season. No, I'm naming
Speaker 1: my starter week three, preseason, and that's the guy. We're
Speaker 1: not doing this. You know, he's not looking over his shoulder,
Speaker 1: and we're not doing this Merry brand stuff. And I
Speaker 1: tell the guys going in, whoever wins it, you're the
Speaker 1: guy for the year. How many of these quarterback competitions
Speaker 1: are actually real competitions? Um, I think it's the good
Speaker 1: places they are. I mean, I'll go back to Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson beat out uh, the kid from Green Bay. What
Speaker 1: was his name flat beat him out. Well, they're real.
Speaker 1: They're particularly real when you don't have one. I mean
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville doesn't have one yet, so they gotta find him.
Speaker 1: So that's why it's a It will be a legitimate competition.
Speaker 1: But I'm with Tony. The guy who wins it can't
Speaker 1: be getting yanked in and out and playing tight because
Speaker 1: he's looking over his shoulder. It's his job. Period. Let's
Speaker 1: move forward. Next question at Hodari eleven if con let's
Speaker 1: go m on, what coach do you believe will be
Speaker 1: the best for the organization. What was the biggest blunder
Speaker 1: this past year. I'm not gonna do that because I
Speaker 1: don't like talking about other coaches taking a job that
Speaker 1: is not vacant, especially when it's in our own backyard.
Speaker 1: I will, I will, Okay, I won't, So let me
Speaker 1: finish Pete. You know Doug Barron's head coach. Um. I
Speaker 1: think Doug Barone is a good coach. I think he
Speaker 1: is a good you know, And you think he's still
Speaker 1: going to be the head I still think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be that coach. I'm not gonna let mean, that's a
Speaker 1: dumb question for me. It's a fair question. I just
Speaker 1: don't like it. What was the biggest blunder? Then? Where
Speaker 1: do you want to start? Um nick Foles signing Nick
Speaker 1: Foles the biggest blunder by far nick Foles? What do
Speaker 1: you mean? It is? Okay? It is? I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: do you agree? You would you agree that that's the
Speaker 1: biggest plunder? You pay that kind of money to a
Speaker 1: quarterback and he's sitting on his ass on the bench,
Speaker 1: that's the biggest plunder. Yeah? Close to is did Jalen
Speaker 1: Ramsey saga? Well that one might actually end up working
Speaker 1: in their advantage They got rid of it. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying for this year, just the whole thing and how
Speaker 1: it kind of the way things went, and then the
Speaker 1: actually and I'll say even the bigger blunder than both
Speaker 1: of those was the run defense that was that was
Speaker 1: not a good one. You know, gotta be thinking, is
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey a bad pick now that they netted two
Speaker 1: ones for him? It depends on what those two ones produce.
Speaker 1: I think we did this the other night, right, I
Speaker 1: mean the other week where we went through the draft
Speaker 1: picks and we couldn't really figure out is that a
Speaker 1: good pick or that it was a good pick at
Speaker 1: the time, but you don't know what the return is yet.
Speaker 1: It's only right if the picks they get are good
Speaker 1: value and good players. It's a hit. You want to
Speaker 1: answer the first part of the question, Pete, Yeah, what
Speaker 1: who would be some of the candidates? I mean, you'd
Speaker 1: have to call Joshua Daniels. I think that would make
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. Um, why wouldn't you call Gray Roman?
Speaker 1: Look what he's done now that you have a different
Speaker 1: offense and different quarterback. But the guy has done some
Speaker 1: brilliant stuff in Baltimore. I think Kevin Stefanski, the offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy would be at the top of my list.
Speaker 1: I'd give Mike McCarthy called. I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: of guys out there what about? But I'm with Tony.
Speaker 1: I think Doug's coming back? What about? And not for
Speaker 1: here other places, because again I'm not going to talk
Speaker 1: about any coaches because Doug is our coach and until
Speaker 1: we find out out anything different, you know he's the
Speaker 1: guy we're rolling with. Um, you don't play anymore. It's
Speaker 1: not your coach. You're in the media, Okay. I'm part
Speaker 1: of the organization. Pete I'm not selfish. I'm not selfish
Speaker 1: like you. What about Eric B. Enemy? I love Eric B. Enemy.
Speaker 1: I think Eric Enemy is going to interview in Carolina.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get a couple other interviews. I
Speaker 1: think he would be a really good coach. It's an
Speaker 1: interesting study if you look at Andy Reid's coaching tree,
Speaker 1: guys who coach for Andy Reid have had a ton
Speaker 1: of success in the NFL, especially when you compared to
Speaker 1: other coaching trees. And name me one big one, Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: But you look at the guys who coach for Andy Reid. Uh, Hardball, McDermott, Naggy,
Speaker 1: uh Uh, who's the coach? Verdict? The verdicts at Naggie?
Speaker 1: What about the coach? Peterson? Yeah? I agree. I think
Speaker 1: I think Eric B. Enemy would be a great coach.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get hired in this cycle. How
Speaker 1: can he faces some of the problems that Naggie, you know,
Speaker 1: face was People always say, with Andy Reid's offense, how
Speaker 1: do you Why are you down on Naggie? He was
Speaker 1: coach of the year last year they won seven or
Speaker 1: eight games. I don't think you get a good job
Speaker 1: this year. That's why he doesn't have a quarterback Pete. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I also don't like the way it calls games at times.
Speaker 1: That's it's me. I don't know. Maybe he's restricted by
Speaker 1: the fact that this quarterback isn't good. I think I
Speaker 1: think Stefanski is going to get in the mix at
Speaker 1: the Vikings off as a coordinator. Uh, he almost got
Speaker 1: the Cleveland job last time. He's going to be in
Speaker 1: that thing. There's there's Ron Rivere is getting the Redskin's job.
Speaker 1: That one is pretty much done. And then Matt Rule.
Speaker 1: You keep here, Matt Rule to the Giants if that,
Speaker 1: and then the Cowboys haven't fired Jason Garrett yet, but
Speaker 1: if they fire them, I think they're gonna go target
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. But after the other night, the guy hasn't
Speaker 1: had a defense and in his whole entire time there, Well,
Speaker 1: you don't, I mean number one, Jerry does not have
Speaker 1: to fire Jason Garrett. Jason Garrett's contract is up. He
Speaker 1: can just let him walk. Well it's technically a firing.
Speaker 1: Well no, technically it's okay, Samanics. He's gonna let him.
Speaker 1: He's gonna wait to January eighteenth, when his contract is done,
Speaker 1: to let him go before hiring somebody. Yeah, probably, I
Speaker 1: don't think. The next question, and this is the topic
Speaker 1: we've covered already, but let's rehash it again. A lot
Speaker 1: has been made about unique and the possibility of using
Speaker 1: the franchise tag. Is this a viable answer to keeping
Speaker 1: ninety one around for the long term given the other
Speaker 1: salary cap situations on the team, Why or why not?
Speaker 1: If you don't sign him long term, you gotta keep
Speaker 1: him around with that, right and then maybe negotiate again.
Speaker 1: That's your tool. That's a long term solution. It's a
Speaker 1: short term solution. And uh, I would use it, would
Speaker 1: use it. I would use it too. I'm not year
Speaker 1: old pass rusher go out the door. Just not And Tony,
Speaker 1: you always talk about it. What are you replacing him with?
Speaker 1: That's right now, He's not gonna be happy. Everyone has
Speaker 1: understand that you sign him to you put the tag
Speaker 1: on him. Yahn is going to negotiate and come up
Speaker 1: with a better deal. That just gives you more time
Speaker 1: to do it. Next question at Terence L. Hayes, Tony
Speaker 1: said we should start the offseason with a quarterback competition
Speaker 1: between fools and Minshew. Didn't the team just do this?
Speaker 1: For sixteen games. Was Minshew's performance as the top rookie
Speaker 1: quarterback not enough to at least allow him to lead
Speaker 1: us into If you listen to what I actually said,
Speaker 1: I said, Mitsche has the head start. He is. He
Speaker 1: is just gonna be the guy who's gonna take the
Speaker 1: first team reps first. But I don't buy just riding
Speaker 1: off Nick Foles because of a two and a half
Speaker 1: game sample size after you paid him eighty eight million dollars. Now,
Speaker 1: don't make a decision just because you pay them eight
Speaker 1: million dollars. That's the worst thing that teams can do.
Speaker 1: But he has a small sample size of what we
Speaker 1: have seen. Here's the thing in training camp, JP, you're
Speaker 1: at every practice, Pete, you came to something, I was
Speaker 1: at a lot of them. Was there? Was it even close?
Speaker 1: When you watched Mintshew and Foals wasn't even close. It
Speaker 1: was clear. It was clear that Folds was the better quarterback.
Speaker 1: He got hurt on the eleventh play, which everyone forgets.
Speaker 1: He got hammered into a perfect pass. Was taking the
Speaker 1: first snap next next season in September, I would be
Speaker 1: if I was laying money right now, I'm saying I
Speaker 1: think Minchi wins the battle for entertainment purposes only, of course, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't don't. I don't bet on sports ever, never ever, ever,
Speaker 1: who who would ever, ever, ever ever just clarified, never
Speaker 1: selly who would it be? I think, uh, it's I
Speaker 1: would have a competition. Like I said, Folds, I mean,
Speaker 1: MITCHI is gonna take the first team reps uh for
Speaker 1: the first o t A. They're both gonna have opportunities.
Speaker 1: The better quarterback will play opening day. Right now, I
Speaker 1: would say I would lean towards it being mint. You well,
Speaker 1: then then that solidifies that the twenty million dollar quarterback
Speaker 1: was a total disaster. That would probably say that, yes, hypothetically,
Speaker 1: here Pete, if they do somehow get Folds off the books,
Speaker 1: they're drafted a guy, right, should get down on their
Speaker 1: knees and thank the high Havens, and then they're drafting
Speaker 1: a guy. At that point. I'm drafting a quarterback no
Speaker 1: matter what I am too at some point, and if
Speaker 1: two is there when I'm picking at nine, I got
Speaker 1: to do my due diligence on that injury and go
Speaker 1: look at him, and I might take him. I don't
Speaker 1: disagree with how many left handed quarterbacks are there in
Speaker 1: the league right now. Many Well there's that aging guy,
Speaker 1: Mark Brunell. He's still around and he only played thirty
Speaker 1: five years. How many years to play like, It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: God bless him. But there aren't many I think active
Speaker 1: right now, come to think of it. Yeah, just an
Speaker 1: oddity of them in history though. Yeah. I Stabler right
Speaker 1: left Boomer, Yeah, Douglas, Steve Steve Young talk about Bobby Douglas.
Speaker 1: The worst pastor you've ever seen your entire life? Was it?
Speaker 1: Will Fu're left handed? Yes, so that would actually made
Speaker 1: you a left tackle that at that time? What you
Speaker 1: never heard that argument? Because Mark bron was left handed?
Speaker 1: You were? He said, make any sense? You said it
Speaker 1: backwards feet? That's okay, vital question. This is actually from
Speaker 1: the game yesterday at Jakun Kune too. What was the
Speaker 1: biggest difference for the offense this game that helped them
Speaker 1: have greater success? I thought they were more aggressive. I
Speaker 1: thought they played loser. Let's just say it. No. I
Speaker 1: thought they were more aggressive. They're more vertical. They came
Speaker 1: out throwing it early, and we heard that team that
Speaker 1: looked like it didn't care if it turned the ball
Speaker 1: over with it they played looser. We well, you all
Speaker 1: say this. Doug Brown actually said it, so did Flip
Speaker 1: during that five game stretch, especially at the end of it,
Speaker 1: that they were going to try to shorten games. And
Speaker 1: I thought they were very conservative. And this is what
Speaker 1: I said earlier this morning, and some people didn't like
Speaker 1: the comment. It was on Twitter. I was a saying
Speaker 1: anything negative about Leonard for Nett. I just felt like
Speaker 1: they forced it to shorten the game and just to
Speaker 1: be this very conservative, pounded, just pounded, pounded, pounded, and
Speaker 1: you know, be very conservative and try not to make mistakes,
Speaker 1: try to get it into the fourth quarter and see
Speaker 1: if you can win a football game, which was a disaster.
Speaker 1: You know what that when you say you're going to
Speaker 1: shorten the game, you know what, that says that you're
Speaker 1: playing not to lose rather than to win. That's what
Speaker 1: that is. That's fair. And I thought yesterday they came
Speaker 1: out and they were way more aggressive. Yeah, I agree,
Speaker 1: and it looked better. Alright, Social questions are endless. Come back,
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Speaker 1: let's put it that way. So um, speaking up Black
Speaker 1: Monday today and earlier obviously the Panther inspired Ron Rivera
Speaker 1: that was December three. That's still vacant, right, Pete, what's
Speaker 1: the what's the kind of feel in Carolina right now.
Speaker 1: Offensive young offensive guy or an offensive guy. Maybe Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 1: they've talked to him. Maybe Kevin Stefanski, Eric b Enemy,
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, the usual names there, Washington Redskins, Ron Rivera
Speaker 1: reportedly in there, and Bruce Allen out Pete Well. I mean,
Speaker 1: after about forty years, it's time for Bruce Allen to go.
Speaker 1: And uh, here's this problem. And you guys know this.
Speaker 1: The problem in Washington is the owner. That's the problem.
Speaker 1: And he no matter who he hires, how he hires,
Speaker 1: the type of coachi hires, he's just not winning. And
Speaker 1: that's why it's the problem. I'm glad for Ron Rivera.
Speaker 1: The good news for Ron Rivera is if he does
Speaker 1: get the job, and it's not finalized yet, uh, he
Speaker 1: will have control of the fifty three man roster. He
Speaker 1: will also be able to bring in a personnel guy
Speaker 1: to work with him. I think that's very important for him.
Speaker 1: Pat Sherman out of the Giants. Not surprising, No, no,
Speaker 1: it should have happened. Uh. Not a good not a
Speaker 1: good you know tenure in Cleveland, not a good tenure
Speaker 1: with the Giants. The only thing I could have thought
Speaker 1: of if to bring it back is you have a
Speaker 1: young quarterback and now you're changing offenses again, and so
Speaker 1: that from that standpoint, sometimes they keep the coach for continuity.
Speaker 1: That's usually a mistake. I think the Giants got it right.
Speaker 1: Matt Rule, who was born in New York, lived in
Speaker 1: New York, worked for the Giants at one point with
Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman. I think he's the leading candidate to go
Speaker 1: become the coach of the Giants. Freddie Kitchens one and
Speaker 1: done in Cleveland, and they've got a track record of
Speaker 1: head coaching changes. The haslums as owners, well, that's it
Speaker 1: was the wrong higher first of all. But they left
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield make the higher. Never you can. You can
Speaker 1: never allow your quarterback or your players to make the highest.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing that they were five there were five
Speaker 1: too and one and everyone gave Freddy Kitchens all the credit,
Speaker 1: but it was really Greg Williams, who's that coach when
Speaker 1: they did that, If anything, they should have just kept
Speaker 1: Greg there as the head coach and like Greg bill
Speaker 1: the staff. I mean, if you wanted to have continuity
Speaker 1: based on what you you did to finish the season out,
Speaker 1: but Freddy Kitchens to start last year was a running
Speaker 1: back coach. Got the job because Todd Haley got fired
Speaker 1: mid season, and I think they put him in a
Speaker 1: tough situation and he could well, yeah, they he was
Speaker 1: set up to fail. He wasn't a he wasn't ready
Speaker 1: for the job. Be they got all the bells and
Speaker 1: whistles and forgot to get the meat and potatoes. I
Speaker 1: mean they had one of the worst the right time.
Speaker 1: That right and left tackle on that team were atrocious,
Speaker 1: like and so you have all those egos on that
Speaker 1: offense without the ability to protect the quarterback. And then
Speaker 1: he didn't play well. So, uh, they he was set
Speaker 1: up to fail. It should have never happened out. Who's
Speaker 1: going to get the job if you're Josh McDaniels and
Speaker 1: you grew up thirty minutes away from there, imagine he
Speaker 1: grew up a Browns fan. Is that your dream job?
Speaker 1: And you go back to Ohio and take that job
Speaker 1: knowing that the Hasms have the quick trigger. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I would take that if I was Josh McDaniels.
Speaker 1: Is is Odell Beckham Jr. Gonna be back? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: you don't let that go out to the door, you
Speaker 1: make the move to go get he did nothing, but
Speaker 1: he just hurt all year two. He had the core
Speaker 1: muscles supposedly, it's been bothering me for about six weeks.
Speaker 1: And the offensive line was terrible. Do you who got
Speaker 1: the better of that deal? The Giants or the or
Speaker 1: the of the Browns? What did the Giants good for him?
Speaker 1: They got Peppers who hasn't didn't work out for him?
Speaker 1: And what draft picks did they get? I mean then
Speaker 1: there was the the trade for uh Olivier Vernon, remember
Speaker 1: that one. I think the Giants uh the Brown's first
Speaker 1: round pick, go Dowell. Beckham is a super talented but
Speaker 1: tell me the last time a team like he helped
Speaker 1: the team win? Right? Would you take right now? If
Speaker 1: you were the Giants, You're glad you got the seventeenth
Speaker 1: overall pick in exchange for for Beckham. Yeah. And Jamal
Speaker 1: Peppers played pretty well the first half of the season, Pete, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he played pretty well. Strong scenes he's okay, he's okay.
Speaker 1: But the Giants got the better on the Zeitler for
Speaker 1: Vernon trade. Absolutely, yeah, that was a mistake on the
Speaker 1: part of that that front office. But to as you
Speaker 1: question about Kitchens. He was in over his head. Now
Speaker 1: they have to go find a guy that can bring
Speaker 1: that whole thing together. Good luck the the other names
Speaker 1: that have been declared safe least so far. Adam Gates
Speaker 1: with the Jets getting more coming back that Patricia with
Speaker 1: the Lions getting more time. That woul't surprised me. That
Speaker 1: won't surprised me, did it. They? Well, they fired Jim
Speaker 1: Coldway after to what nine and seven seasons? Mhm, the
Speaker 1: Falcons brain trust is back. We thought that was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: When you were up there for the you thought that
Speaker 1: was gonna happen to that team kind of rallied around
Speaker 1: that guy. They finished. They started one and seven, finished
Speaker 1: six and two. Yeah, I would have brought him back
Speaker 1: to him. And you think it's over in Dallas, Yes,
Speaker 1: whether it's at the semantics of it, whether it's yeah,
Speaker 1: I I see no no scenario where Jason Garrett's back
Speaker 1: his head coach. Would you hire Lincoln Riley? Um? I
Speaker 1: don't know. He's the hot name right now. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Somebody in my office was saying, oh, well, look Kingsbury
Speaker 1: went there and had success and he couldn't win in
Speaker 1: the big twelve, you know, because he did. Kingsbury actually
Speaker 1: did a nice job in Arizona. They didn't win a
Speaker 1: lot of games, but they got better. But there's a
Speaker 1: big difference between coaching the Texas Tech and coaching in
Speaker 1: Oklahoma considering what you have to work with. I think
Speaker 1: Leg Roley is a really good coach. I think you'd
Speaker 1: have success in the NFL. But Tony, you know this,
Speaker 1: you play, it's more about how you handle and doubt
Speaker 1: your roster in your locker room and delegate as much
Speaker 1: as it is for xs and ohs. Well, it's your presence,
Speaker 1: it's your leadership at your ability to get you know,
Speaker 1: fifty three type A men have you know or half crazy?
Speaker 1: I mean all of us are crazy in this game.
Speaker 1: All of us are crazy in the world. So let's
Speaker 1: let's stop there. But everybody's crazy. But to look at
Speaker 1: you as the man and say, I'm gonna follow this guy,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what he says, I'm gonna do what
Speaker 1: he asked. I'm gonna play hard for him. I mean
Speaker 1: that's the job of the head coach and getting good
Speaker 1: coordinators right and if there is an incident, dealing with it,
Speaker 1: not allowing somebody else to get away with one thing
Speaker 1: while he penalizing somebody else. There's gotta be all consistent consistency.
Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot more than just calling plays.
Speaker 1: And when you look at Lick and Riley, look, it
Speaker 1: looks like he can handle it. But it's a big
Speaker 1: difference handling grown men and handling college kids. Who was
Speaker 1: the last college coach to go to the NFL and
Speaker 1: have success in the NFL? Pete Carroll, Well, he didn't
Speaker 1: have success in the NFL right away. Yeah, okay, he
Speaker 1: was already a coach in the NFL. No, but he
Speaker 1: went to He was a college coach, won multiple national titles.
Speaker 1: Left he had already been a head coach at the NFL.
Speaker 1: You're missing my point. He came from college. He won
Speaker 1: national titles at college. That's not what JP's asking you.
Speaker 1: That JP's asking you about the guy who was in
Speaker 1: college and took the leap to the NFL. Pete Carroll
Speaker 1: had already been in the NFL before he went back
Speaker 1: to college. John Robinson did it back at the day
Speaker 1: with the Rams. He had success of the Rams. Bill
Speaker 1: Walsh did it. Yes, Jimmy Johnson did it. Jimmy Johnson,
Speaker 1: Bill Walsh Switcher on a Super Bowl trying to think
Speaker 1: who else has done Yeah, Switcher out that, but Nick
Speaker 1: Nick Saban didn't do well doing it? No, who Okay, listen,
Speaker 1: who are the last ones who actually made the jump?
Speaker 1: It's been a while well, I mean people you always
Speaker 1: hear the the well did it? I mean that was
Speaker 1: a while? Yeah? What about the NFL too? What about
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer? Would he be a good, good NFL head coach?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Tony. I think I think he has
Speaker 1: a presence about him. I think there's I think he
Speaker 1: would be. He's organized, good communicator, good leader. I think
Speaker 1: he'd be. I think he put together a good staff.
Speaker 1: I think, Okay, here's a couple other ones. What do
Speaker 1: you think. I think there's a track record of him
Speaker 1: when the pressure is really tight, I'll be able to
Speaker 1: handle the physically. I hear he's more of an Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's more of the delegator the overseers. So that would
Speaker 1: work in the end. That's what I said. That's why
Speaker 1: I think he did. How about here, I give you
Speaker 1: a couple other ones. Yeah, quick, Bobby Petrino, that didn't work,
Speaker 1: didn't work already Dennis ericson. Okay, which Davis, that's right,
Speaker 1: didn't work. Mike Riley did not work. June Jones did
Speaker 1: not work. Chan Gally okay, he was the head coach.
Speaker 1: Bud Wilkinson didn't work. All right, let's go, we gotta,
Speaker 1: let's come back. We'll preview youngest NFL coach. He was
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Speaker 1: of Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday for this season.
Speaker 1: This is the last show. This is it. J P. Shattrick,
Speaker 1: Tony was Elly, Pete Priscoe. Tony is on Twitter, digging deep.
Speaker 1: Even in the final moments of the show. Pete, he
Speaker 1: can't get off of Twitter. He can't do it. He's
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how many people were getting mad
Speaker 1: at him again today. Well, I'm sure there's a there's
Speaker 1: a lot of them. It's unbelievable. People are on Twitter
Speaker 1: just get out of control, like this new thing. Okay, Boomer,
Speaker 1: you know that when you're an older person like myself.
Speaker 1: They say, okay, Boomer, they act like that bothers me.
Speaker 1: I mean, if that's something that bothers you, you've got
Speaker 1: a very thin skin. It's funny. So like there was
Speaker 1: another tweet that so I did like ten ten. Every
Speaker 1: time I do the show, they they pull quotes out
Speaker 1: of what I say. Correct, Yeah, I see him in
Speaker 1: the morning, and I don't remember saying it quite like this,
Speaker 1: but that's fine. So there they're asked me to your
Speaker 1: point about Twitter being angry, and I said this about
Speaker 1: your honest and he turned down nine team million, and
Speaker 1: I like you, and he's a guy you wanted your team.
Speaker 1: But this is back to back seasons with under ten sex.
Speaker 1: If he's asking for twenty plus, you have to take
Speaker 1: a deep breath and ask if this is really what
Speaker 1: you want to do. Pretty tame comment when you say, pete, yeah,
Speaker 1: very I mean. And then people are like, pay them,
Speaker 1: pay them with all due respect, both the Jaggers have
Speaker 1: paid a whole lot more for a whole lot less.
Speaker 1: And then one guy says, shake my head, they just
Speaker 1: don't like the guy. Who's I mean, I just said, like,
Speaker 1: who knows? I mean, I don't know. I can't please,
Speaker 1: everybody can't do it all right, Let's preview the game's
Speaker 1: coming up on wild Card weekend. First of all, four
Speaker 1: thirty five on Saturday, the Buffalo Bills at the Houston Texans.
Speaker 1: This is a traditional a f C South champion spot
Speaker 1: the early game on Saturday. Pete, it seems like the
Speaker 1: champion always plays on Saturday. Yeah, well, whoever wins is
Speaker 1: always playing early on Saturday. From that that, because it's
Speaker 1: smaller markets and people don't care about them. I think
Speaker 1: Buffalo goes in there and wins. I think Texans have
Speaker 1: some issues, particularly on defense, and Tony saw him two
Speaker 1: weeks ago. They don't rush the past are well enough.
Speaker 1: I think Buffalo's defense is going to limit what Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson does. I like the Bills to win that game. Um,
Speaker 1: I'll go with Bills as well. Now the question is
Speaker 1: is will Fuller playing? Probably not, then I go for
Speaker 1: Bills for sure. Our next game on Saturday, the big
Speaker 1: game in the wild Card Weekend and eight fifteen Eastern
Speaker 1: times start in Foxborough, Massachusetts, the Tennessee Titans. With Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry the league's leading rusher. They head into New England
Speaker 1: to face the Patriots and the top defense in the NFL.
Speaker 1: They're playing on wild card weekend for the first time
Speaker 1: in a decade. Who you got Titans Patriots? First? Welcome?
Speaker 1: Very good. By the way, did did Jaguars defensive players
Speaker 1: get the presents from Derrick Henry? You know how running
Speaker 1: backs usually give their linemen some presents Christmas watch or something.
Speaker 1: Did the Jaguars defensive players get something for allowing him
Speaker 1: to lead the league in rushing? Who? What? What was
Speaker 1: this total rushing yards? I forget right at the top
Speaker 1: of my head, but I can't get who you're liking
Speaker 1: that one? First off? I like I like the Patriots.
Speaker 1: They're gonna take him away. How about this stat? Ryan
Speaker 1: tanney Hill is oh and six against the Patriots and
Speaker 1: he's got five touchdown passes and ten picks. I'm doing
Speaker 1: the game, so you're not gonna make a pick, or
Speaker 1: you can do that thing where you're not making I
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't make a pick, but I will. I'm going
Speaker 1: Pats all right, Vikings, Saints quick one word Saints and
Speaker 1: Eagles and Eagles Eagles. You have it, Pete, We'll talk
Speaker 1: to you soon down the line. Well done, Pete. Frisco,
Speaker 1: Tony Basselli. I'm J. P. Shadrick. Thank you for listening
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