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Speaker 1: He's celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Was good

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Speaker 1: from awake and the Jaguars had beaten a long Angela target.

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Speaker 1: It is a victory Monday, dece This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Jet Home Loans and

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Speaker 1: now a guy who's currently taking bids to come to

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Speaker 1: your house and watch the ball drop Jay Schedules open. Yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home Loans.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the twenty nineteen season, j P. Shadrick,

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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, Pete Prisco and We've got plenty to discuss

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Speaker 1: in this program. The season aftermath is beginning today Locker

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Speaker 1: room clean out Day. We'll hear from some guys in

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Speaker 1: the locker room today on their final day of really here.

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Speaker 1: It's the t I A. Bank Field. The future of

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Speaker 1: world today. What will that entail? Will hopefully soon find out.

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Speaker 1: The NFL Draft selections are said as well. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: officially talk NFL Draft tonight. That's what you're talking, Pete,

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Speaker 1: what's up? I like talking NFL draft? Tony hates it.

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Speaker 1: I like talking NFL Draft in November. I've been fine

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Speaker 1: with it this year, Pete, I've been pushed back at all. No,

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Speaker 1: you've been much better. If you're a realist. Now, that's

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Speaker 1: what happened when you become a member of the media.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm I'm leaving the media. You're leaving. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna divorce myself. You're done, We'll see you never know.

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Speaker 1: You never know. Once you're in. Once you're in, you're in.

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Speaker 1: You can't get out. You take it out blood in bloodles.

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Speaker 1: Unless you've got information that you're being named a general

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Speaker 1: managers somewhere. Do not breaking news. No news that is

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Speaker 1: not happening. No news. Okay, we have a GM. First

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Speaker 1: Maybe you were going somewhere else. Broncos the partner with Elway,

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Speaker 1: my childhood childhood hero. How could he have been your

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Speaker 1: looking ahead to the future. But in the aftermath of

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Speaker 1: team here that there's not There's no doubt in my mind,

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Speaker 1: and they are two great honors. So, um, it's just

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Speaker 1: There are reports today that there are meeting scheduled tomorrow

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Speaker 1: Are these the same sources that said he was fired

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Speaker 1: same four letter network, But yes, reporting that was that

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Speaker 1: something here? I think this deal is more likely to

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Speaker 1: get done now that Tom is gone. Just from stuff

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Speaker 1: I've heard and was told, I think this deal is

428
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Speaker 1: much more likely to get done now that Tom's gone.

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Speaker 1: How much would you pay him? That's a tough one Tony,

430
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Speaker 1: because that's that's the one. Look am I paying him?

431
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Speaker 1: He turned down that he had a better year than

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence did, okay, Pete, he has yeah, he turned

433
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Speaker 1: down nineteen million in the last two years. He has

434
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Speaker 1: a total of seventeen sacks. Or you have nine last

435
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Speaker 1: year and nine and a half I know you have

436
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Speaker 1: eight this year. Um, So he had seventeen seventeen a

437
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Speaker 1: half sacks in two years. He is identity, He's a

438
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Speaker 1: he's a splash player. He is a guy who plays

439
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Speaker 1: his tail off. He's you know, he's the perfect guy

440
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Speaker 1: as far as taking care of his business. You want

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Speaker 1: him in the locker room. He had nine and a

442
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Speaker 1: half last year, eight this year. So seventeen a half

443
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Speaker 1: sacks and two years. Are you paying twenty million plus

444
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Speaker 1: for that? Pete? For an average of so he's he's

445
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Speaker 1: how many he has thirty seven total sacks? I think

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Speaker 1: it is seven and a half. So over four years

447
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Speaker 1: he's averaging under tenure, under ten s accident year. And

448
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Speaker 1: that's what he is. He's a pass rusher. It's not

449
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Speaker 1: I mean he is. He played the run better this year,

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Speaker 1: without a doubt, but it's not like he's not. That's

451
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Speaker 1: not where he's that's not his strength. So for and

452
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Speaker 1: so for nine and basically he's averaging nine and a

453
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Speaker 1: half sacks a year over four years. Are you paying

454
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Speaker 1: twenty he turned down nineteen. I've already wants twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Are you paying that? Let's put this way. De Marcus

456
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Speaker 1: Lawrence just got it last year and he has fifteen

457
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Speaker 1: and a half sacks in the last two years, including

458
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Speaker 1: five this year. Uh, in the last three years he

459
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Speaker 1: has twenty four and five twenty nine. Frank Clark has

460
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Speaker 1: twenty one in the last two years, and he got it. Now.

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Speaker 1: Are they better run players than he is? Pray Clark

462
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Speaker 1: is for sure? Uh? Yeah, and I'd say de Marcus

463
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: Lawrence is too. But when you pay a guy like that,

464
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Speaker 1: you're not paying him for his run defense, you know that,

465
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Speaker 1: So you'd pay him twenty one? I b I almost

466
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Speaker 1: think it's one of those you're damned if you do

467
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Speaker 1: and damned if you don't. I'm asking you, Pete go,

468
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Speaker 1: Mr wanna be. I tag him. I would tag him,

469
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Speaker 1: and the tag on the tag is going to be

470
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Speaker 1: probably seventeen this year. I tag him and then see

471
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Speaker 1: what he does and then if he goes out and

472
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Speaker 1: has because he took a while to get going this year,

473
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: that could easily been double digit side. Wouldn't he hurt

474
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Speaker 1: early in the season for about hand, Yeah, but he

475
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: was also hurt like he wasn't the same guy earlier

476
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Speaker 1: in the season. You can see that, So that could

477
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Speaker 1: easily have been ten ten and a half. So you're

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Speaker 1: you're par leading towards paying. Here's why, Tony, I think

479
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Speaker 1: when you come to the line of scrimmage in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: you know this as well as anybody got one guy

481
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Speaker 1: over here, you can rush the pastor you've got another

482
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Speaker 1: guy over here can rush the pastor. That's a foundation

483
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Speaker 1: for your defense. That gives you in the current NFL,

484
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Speaker 1: gives you the ability to go chase down quarterbacks. If

485
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Speaker 1: you get rid of him, then everything becomes all about

486
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Speaker 1: Alan and you don't have to you have one. Now,

487
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Speaker 1: could you find one in the draft? Maybe, but aren't

488
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Speaker 1: you better off bringing him back on a tag or

489
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Speaker 1: getting a deal done to have an Alan in there?

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Speaker 1: Then you maybe you get Klais on a cheap deal

491
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Speaker 1: or a cheaper deal, and then you go draft Derek

492
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Speaker 1: Brown from Auburn, put him inside David Bryant's actually played

493
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Speaker 1: well the last month, and he was pretty good yesterday.

494
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Speaker 1: Just from the TV taper looked like, I don't want

495
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Speaker 1: to break it to you, but Derrek Brown is not

496
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Speaker 1: gonna be there at nine. He might be. He might

497
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Speaker 1: be tony. I mean, he might be. And then and

498
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Speaker 1: then you can get or if you take an offensive

499
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Speaker 1: lineman there, come back and get a defensive lineman at

500
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Speaker 1: the top at the at the next pick. The bottom

501
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Speaker 1: line is, I think if you can get a big

502
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Speaker 1: power inside player to go with that group, you have

503
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Speaker 1: the foundation of a heck of a front, and I

504
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Speaker 1: think they need that. So I'm thinking I would be

505
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Speaker 1: concerned if I let that lead the building. It's gonna

506
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Speaker 1: go get sixteen seventeen sacks somewhere else on a and

507
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Speaker 1: then maybe sixteen and twelve with thirteen on a consistent basis.

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Speaker 1: That would be my concerned. What if he doesn't sign

509
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: the tender, well, then he's then he's getting bad advice.

510
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Speaker 1: He's not gonna make any money right right. Then? The

511
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Speaker 1: bottom line is you're a year, an earning year is

512
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Speaker 1: going off your body. You only have so many left

513
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Speaker 1: in him. Uh, he would sign it. So the one

514
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: thing is if I'm bringing him back, I'm tagging him

515
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Speaker 1: and trying. I'm trying to work out a deal, but

516
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tag him. Um because if you tag him.

517
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Speaker 1: The other thing is if you struggle to get a

518
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Speaker 1: deal done, you can trade him the what could you

519
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Speaker 1: get for him in theory, Well, they got a one

520
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Speaker 1: for Frank Clark. You're not getting one for him, but

521
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Speaker 1: you might get a team, a desperate team and in

522
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: need that takes its close of a pass rush year.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Frank Clark's better? Uh, unique, he's yes,

524
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: just this year. He probably has it because he's been

525
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: hurt all year. But I think healthy he's a little

526
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: bit better than him. Yeah. Us. But one thing for

527
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: sure is if I'm not playing I'm not playing Yahn

528
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Speaker 1: at defensive end stand up guy when you can play

529
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: Alan in that position. To I'm playing him as a

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Speaker 1: sam linebacker in first and second down and then and Nickel,

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Speaker 1: I'll put his hand on the ground, let him rest

532
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: a passer. I just don't think he's big enough to

533
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: hold up playing and play out. It's not his strength. Uh,

534
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: he was better this year to play a you know,

535
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: hand in the ground defensive end line up and on

536
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: tight on the tight end and a sixth technique just

537
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: I mean getting double team. I mean, that's not his strength.

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Speaker 1: He's not John is not a big man. He's an

539
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: athletic man. He's a powerful man, but he's not a

540
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: big guy. What is he? Six one? Yeah? Right right

541
00:31:52,200 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: at that? So he should be playing are in the

542
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: three four principles because you're not really three four? He

543
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Speaker 1: up on the other side. Let's come back, By the way,

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Speaker 1: j in that scenario, you get Josh Allen on the

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Speaker 1: for then. I think you gotta play to what you have.

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Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. He's only twenty four now, he's young,

549
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Speaker 1: Big questions moving ahead, certainly for this organization, and one

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Speaker 1: As it stands now, it's duck um. And I think

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Speaker 1: that Gardner Minshew as a clear you know, head start

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Speaker 1: in the race to get to grab the number one

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Speaker 1: quarterback position here in Jacksonville. He surprised me yesterday with

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Speaker 1: the way he played. He hadn't been playing like that.

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Speaker 1: So I said something on Twitter, Pete right, No, I try.

642
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Speaker 1: I said it on the show tonight this morning with

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Speaker 1: Dan and Jeff. They asked me why was the offense

644
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Speaker 1: so much more dynamic, explosive, And one of the things

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Speaker 1: I said, I said, you know, Leonard Fournette wasn't in there.

646
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: And Leonard Fournette had a great year this year, great year, fabulous,

647
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Speaker 1: did everything you ask. But it felt like, and if

648
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: you go look at the first fifteen plays that were scripted,

649
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: they threw it much more. They came out throwing it,

650
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Speaker 1: moving the pocket, getting to going, and it felt like

651
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Speaker 1: that they weren't trying to force the offense through Leonard.

652
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: Now that's not Leonard's fault, he just he does whatever

653
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Speaker 1: they call. But I I wonder not only D Flippo

654
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Speaker 1: can answer this. Did D Filippo feel like he had

655
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: to get letter going early in games and because of that,

656
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: trying to force everything on the ground, everyone knowing that

657
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: loading the box make it very difficult for Leonard to

658
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: run the ball, where this week it felt like it

659
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: was much more opened up. That was just a feeling

660
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Speaker 1: I had watching the game. The game it did, it

661
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: did feel much more opened up. The backs looked because

662
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: Leonard has had a good year, but the backs look quicker,

663
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: more explosive. Is that accurate? Um? I didn't come away

664
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Speaker 1: thinking they're more explosive or quicker. I came away feeling.

665
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Speaker 1: I came away feeling like D. Filippo's said, we don't

666
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Speaker 1: have our star back in there, so we're gonna ended

667
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Speaker 1: up spread it out and do some different stuff. That's

668
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: what it felt like to me. But you didn't think

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Speaker 1: that there was a significant drop off to those backs

670
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Speaker 1: because I didn't. Um. I mean, in fairness, the letter

671
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 1: now he had seventy six catches and but Armstead caught

672
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: the ball. He did have the one drop. He caught

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Speaker 1: the ball out of the back. Here let's say, but

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Speaker 1: I mean Leonard had over a thousand yards. Leonard had

675
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Speaker 1: a good year. I'm gonna give him credit. I just

676
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Speaker 1: don't think there's a significant amount of difference when I

677
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: say that about most Backstead played. You think if Arms

678
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Speaker 1: had played the same amount of reps that Leonard did

679
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: the numbers, he would have had a thout. It would

680
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: have a thousand yards. I don't know if he would

681
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: have seventy catches or whatever Leonard had, but he would

682
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: have had fifty. Interesting, and I don't know that. I

683
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: mean it. Backs are so interchangeable. I want to go

684
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: to go to the Eagles game yesterday. Jordan Howard wasn't playing,

685
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders got hurt. Boston Scottland in there and ran wild.

686
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: They picked them up off the scrap heap. So you're saying,

687
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: any back and go in there and do it, not

688
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: any back. I just don't think the difference is that.

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Speaker 1: You don't think there's that big a difference between Chris

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00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: McCaffrey and that's different. Now you're talking about a thousand

691
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: thousand guy. That's a different, entirely different animals. How about

692
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: the backs in Seattle last night? They can go in anywhere, right,

693
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch, here he comes? How about man about Marshawn Lynch.

694
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: He came in and rushed with three point under three

695
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: yards per carry. Meanwhile, the other kid had six That

696
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: you pick up in the fifth, sixth round is a

697
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: rookie who was the better back in that game? Marsh

698
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: Lynch hasn't played football like a year, but he's not

699
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: a better But everybody's going crazy, Homer was a better

700
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 1: player last night. Okay, but that's kind of the point

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00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: to those guys that are that are around this time

702
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: of year, there's a million of them. You know, certainly

703
00:41:55,239 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: don't draft one fourth overall? Is there a back in

704
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: the league today that you draft fourth overall? McCaffrey would

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00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: be one of them, But even then, I wouldn't The

706
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: position of the value of the position isn't there ton't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not taking the back of that not if I

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Speaker 1: need what if I needed? If I have a choice

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Speaker 1: between Von Miller and Christian McCaffrey, who am I take it? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go through every position. Okay, let's do this

711
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: all right, Quarterback, You're always taking quarterback Julio Jones, Christian McCaffrey.

712
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: The way the game is played, I'd rather that Julio Jones,

713
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: George Kiddle, McCay. That one's tough for me, but i'd

714
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: probably take McCaffrey, Kelsey or McCaffrey. No tight end, although

715
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: there aren't a lot of tight ends, so it's tough.

716
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: It's a tough position to fix. So it's a coin

717
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: for you there. Yeah, Okay, Lane Johnson right tackle or

718
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: one of the better I just say, because he's one

719
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Speaker 1: of the better ones, or Mitchell Schwartz or I take

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00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 1: I take the tackle, Zach Zack Martin and right guard,

721
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: or Christian McCaffrey. I probably take McCaffrey, Rodney Hudson at

722
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: center for the Raiders or any of the good centers

723
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: out there, or Christian McCaffrey. I probably take a center,

724
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: Quinton Nelson, quitt Nelson or McCaffrey. I probably take Quittin Nelson.

725
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: I want my line, I can, I can run the

726
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: ball off. My line is good, Tyrone Smith Smith for sure. Okay, alright,

727
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: so we went through all those. Uh you already said

728
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: von miller Um Aaron Donald, Aaron Donald or that's Donald. Okay,

729
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: Bobby Bobby, Bobby Wagner or Christian McCaffrey. Bobby Wagner has

730
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: played great this year. Okay, you know what I'm saying. Darius,

731
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard or christ McCaffrey. Probably take McCaffrey. Okay, uh,

732
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmore and McCaffrey Gilmore. Who's the best safety in

733
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: football right now? Durwin James or McCaffrey Derwin js. So

734
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: that one's kind of that one's kind of closed safety,

735
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: kind of close. But the value positions pass rusher, whether

736
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: he's inside, outside tackle, center a great center, really you know,

737
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: don't you You know how valuable those guys are. And

738
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: then the big play receiver. I don't think that Michael

739
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: Thomas and Christian McCaffrey, Michael Thomas. See, that's the thing.

740
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: The only one I might disagree is is the receiver.

741
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: Because a great running game, who can a guy McCaffrey

742
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: that can catch it in the backfield? That's tough. If

743
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: we look at the teams that can't have don't have that.

744
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: Look at the Patriots. Imagine if they had Michael Thomas

745
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: on their team. Go look at the teams that can't

746
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: run the ball, Pete. The teams you can run the

747
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: ball in the playoffs, they run the ball because their

748
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 1: lines are good. All I'm saying is the difference between

749
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Speaker 1: this running back and one and fifteen. For example, we

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Speaker 1: came into the season thinking David Johnson was a top

751
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 1: ten running back. He's not even the number one running

752
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: back on his own team anymore. He might not be

753
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 1: the second running back on his own team anymore. That's

754
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying is I think the value of

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Speaker 1: the position and the difference between one and twenty isn't

756
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: that great. Whereas if you look through you go to

757
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's position, and you go the difference between one

758
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 1: and twenty. You're talking about Aaron Donald and David Bryant.

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00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: So what are the what are the what are the

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00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: what positions are you not taking in the top ten

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00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: of a draft? You're not taking running back? Not taking

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Speaker 1: running back? I'd be I'd be here's my philosophy on

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00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: the guard unless he's unreal, And I'd be hard pressed

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Speaker 1: to take the guard because I think you could take

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Speaker 1: a college tackle in the third or fourth round and

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Speaker 1: move him inside and make him a guard. I believe

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Speaker 1: that I've seen it happen. It's happened all over the league.

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Speaker 1: Guys like Yonda, Um, you know Zack Martin, all those

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Speaker 1: guys they moved inside because they weren't good enough to

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Speaker 1: play tackle, but they could play guard. Let's come back,

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Speaker 1: let's do We'll take a look at the draft order. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and twenty. If we were to lost that game, six six,

847
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: I believe it could have been could have been six.

848
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: Are you only win the game and not worry about

849
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: it train or are you they lose the game for

850
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: draft picks? It depends what had I have on You

851
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: can change hands as a player or coach, I want

852
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: to win the game, especially as a player, because like

853
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: as a player, you don't care about draft picks or

854
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: any of that nonsense. I mean, you just don't care.

855
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: And and I never understood as a player how you

856
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: go out on the field, especially in the game of football,

857
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: not just like you better go hard, you better be physical,

858
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: you better you know, go full speed. Otherwise bad things happen,

859
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: people get hurt, you get hurt. And so as a player,

860
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: I didn't care about the draft. And I think as

861
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: a coach, especially when you're you know, fighting for your

862
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,479
Speaker 1: job and everything else, I don't think you care about

863
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: the draft pick either. You want to win the GM.

864
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: It's depending on where you sit. If you're a GM.

865
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: I think who is solidified in their role and everything else.

866
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 1: I think you're secretly in the back of your mind saying,

867
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: if we lose this, I'll be okay with that, get

868
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: a better draft pick. Owner fans, I, I would think

869
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: you're want to as I think it's the GM and

870
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: the owner of the team. You want to win that

871
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: game just because winning is way better than losing. But

872
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: then if you take the big picture in the in

873
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: the account, you're saying, I'd much rather be picking six

874
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: than nine. About if you're the Dolphins, you lose, you

875
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: win five games to surprise everybody, and the tanking's all

876
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: out of the window, and you still end up with

877
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: the top five pick. That's a good season for the Dolphins. Well,

878
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: but here's the other thing. You know, I think you

879
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: agree with this unless there's that quarterback that you know

880
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: you just want where you need to get him at

881
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 1: one or two or you know, depending on the number

882
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks. Doesn't it more than anything about coming It's

883
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: about picking the right guy. Because listen, Luke jocol number

884
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:57,479
Speaker 1: two overall pick, how did that work out? Not well?

885
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: Not very good? That was bad? That was it a draft?

886
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not even peking the draft. I'm

887
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: just saying about getting the right guy. Traded back draft

888
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: but didn't in the long run, didn't work out. It

889
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: never did. Did he got a new deal? Okay, but

890
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: it didn't correct. Uh Fowler, wrong guy got hurt. But

891
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: it was never the right guy for this. It didn't

892
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: work out. You trade him, got on a third or

893
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: fifth round or whatever. It was third and fifth baby,

894
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, great player, got two first rounders, but not here.

895
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: He's not here? What about Tyson Allola? Yeah, I mean,

896
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: you go through it. It's about picking the right guy

897
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: more than anything. So whether you're six or nine, pick

898
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 1: the right guy, meaning pick a good player, because all

899
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: the time you've great players come in the middle of

900
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: the first, end of the first Yes, you'd rather have

901
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: higher picks. It gives you, you know, a better opportunity

902
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 1: to pick the guy you want. But I I think

903
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: you know outside the quarterback man, just get the right guy,

904
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: the guy that fits what you want to do, that's

905
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: a good player that loves football, Josh Allen and pick

906
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: that guy Josh Allen's that seems like it. And he

907
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 1: fell to them. I mean that was like a surprise.

908
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: They didn't think they're going to get him. But you

909
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: can go through the history of the draft for this

910
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: team or any other team. Yes, if you're not in

911
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: the playoffs, you want to have a higher pick without

912
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: a doubt. But just just having a higher pick does

913
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: not guarantee you you get the right guy. And we've

914
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: seen that, and that's I'm not taking a shot at anybody.

915
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: That's just that's a fact. And so I'd rather be six.

916
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: But I felt good to win yesterday. So we're nine.

917
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: Would you consider packaging picks to move up at all? No,

918
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: you need two players instead of one. I think there's

919
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: enough holes in this roster right now, and the roster

920
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: has enough issues that you need multiple players, multiple starters.

921
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: You need to fix starters. You have three picks in

922
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: the first forty picks or forty one picks, right, Yes,

923
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 1: three in the first forty one. You need three starters.

924
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: You need to pick three starters with those guys. They

925
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: have to be good starters next year. That's a lot.

926
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: That's where I mean. When you have a bunch of

927
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: draft picks that you picked no longer on your team,

928
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 1: and yeah, I think you have to keep the picks.

929
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't think you package but I mean, I mean,

930
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: you disagree you need three starters out of this draft.

931
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question about that. To rebuild

932
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: the foundation of the of the of the team for

933
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback, you're not doing if you have to get

934
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: a name or do a lot of these guys and

935
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: somehow Folds is not around. I don't know one of

936
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: the rookies, one of the guys. You're not gonna give

937
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: up your whole draft to go up to one to

938
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: give Burrows. I already told you I think about uh

939
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: to uh. I worry about the injuries. Herbert from Oregon

940
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: is big arm guy, wildly inaccurate Eastan. You gotta do

941
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: a lot of work on him, so you know how

942
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: that always goes. Though they kind of talk him and

943
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: then they end up at the top of the draft

944
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: board on draft night. A lot of times they do,

945
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: so I would not I don't think, I mean I'm

946
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: gonna do the work. I would do the work on

947
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. But I think I'm getting hopefully three starters

948
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 1: with those top forty one picks. I'm starting to rebuild

949
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: the roster, rebuild some depth, and uh, see what and

950
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Speaker 1: see what meant you can do this year and if that,

951
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: and then maybe I have to draft the quarterback next year.

952
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953
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954
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Speaker 1: bring I don't know, Um, you know, obviously, I think

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Speaker 1: the biggest thing for me is, um, you help my

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Speaker 1: So I guess we fired up a little bit. But

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1027
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1028
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1029
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,640
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1030
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1032
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Speaker 1: any more after Thank goodness. By the way, I like

1033
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Speaker 1: his cockiness and it's pretty. He's got a little something

1034
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Speaker 1: to him, right, Pete, I like it. I like it.

1035
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Speaker 1: I would said the same thing better. You're just as

1036
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Speaker 1: good as a better you know. It's just and they

1037
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Speaker 1: took it a little shot. I won more than any

1038
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Speaker 1: of them. I think that's great. I think he believes

1039
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Speaker 1: in himself and I think that's good. Quick note a

1040
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Speaker 1: couple of quick notes. Number nine draft picks in recent years,

1041
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Speaker 1: two of note Luke Keikley, Tyron Smith. Can we have

1042
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Speaker 1: those two right now? Yeah? You wish? And the last

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Speaker 1: time the Jaguars picked number nine, you know they picked No,

1044
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Tyson Nope, he was ten.

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Speaker 1: Reggie Williams. Wow, I think I'll take keikly you think,

1046
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Speaker 1: I mean there's I just look to see if what

1047
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Speaker 1: kind of player you get in the nine spot. There's

1048
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Speaker 1: a nice mix there. You get two great players like that.

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Speaker 1: You have a couple like Leonard Floyd was in the

1050
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Speaker 1: nine spot. He's not a bad player, he's not a

1051
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Speaker 1: great player. Uh D Milner was kind of a bust

1052
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Speaker 1: in that spot. So you get a mix of guys

1053
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Speaker 1: at number nine. But those are the two best in

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01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: the last fifteen years. So what do is gardner? Men?

1055
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: You need to do in your mind to be the

1056
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: guy to be a franchise quarterback that you can go

1057
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: win because all that matters. I mean, here's you know,

1058
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 1: everyone says you know, well you can win. You know

1059
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: has mints you Is he the guys that folds? Here's

1060
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,919
Speaker 1: my question. Is that individual who's playing quarterback for you?

1061
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,439
Speaker 1: Does he have the ability and the capabilities to win

1062
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: a trophy? We're you're sitting there holding the party trophy

1063
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: at the end of the year. Can he win the

1064
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: big one? Can he get you there and can he

1065
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: win it? Well? I think he'd have to have a

1066
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff around him. Go right. I I like

1067
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: what I saw from him yesterday more than any game

1068
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: I've seen him play, including the early ones. I thought

1069
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: he was more decisive the ball came out, he read

1070
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: the field better. It was vertical to Pete, Yeah, it

1071
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: was much. This was the game that me and I

1072
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: told you last week. I thought, I don't know, he's

1073
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: a backup. He stood in there, he the throws. He

1074
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 1: just looked much more comfortable in this game. And he

1075
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: looked like a guy that could be a starting quarterback

1076
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,439
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and and up until yesterday, I wasn't

1077
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: so sure about that. Give me two things he has

1078
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: to improve to be pocket presence first and foremost for me,

1079
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: And by that I mean the fanom pressure at times

1080
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: he felt and yesterday he was better at it, but

1081
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: you still see glimpses of it. That's number one. Um

1082
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: Number two is probably identifying the coverages because I thought

1083
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: there were times where he got tricked at points in

1084
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: this season, and that comes with playing. I think as

1085
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: he plays, he's a smart kid. He'll get better at it.

1086
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: Is your arm strength still a knock? Yeah, that's the

1087
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: one thing. I still think his arm needs get a

1088
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: little bit stronger so you can drive the ball down

1089
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. This was the first game

1090
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: in the second half that we saw him work in

1091
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: the middle of the field between the hashes. Do you

1092
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 1: do you think that he doesn't work the middle of

1093
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,479
Speaker 1: the hashes because he knows his arm isn't that good.

1094
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: Either that or he can't see it. You know, he's

1095
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: not the biggest guy. You know. You know Drew Brees,

1096
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: you ever talked to, you know, listen to Drew Brees.

1097
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: He sees it through lanes and he learned to be

1098
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: able to see through lanes and and he's so good

1099
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: and he knows what's happening down the field. He can

1100
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: anticipate and see it. And he told me through one

1101
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: year he threw a hundred and something passes without seeing

1102
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,439
Speaker 1: the receiver because he knows the coverage and he knows

1103
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: where the receiver's supposed to be, and they rep it

1104
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: and rep and repping. I think you got to do

1105
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: that with Minshew. It's got to get to something like that.

1106
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: He's got to be one of those cerebral quarterbacks and

1107
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: are asked to get stronger. You're right, excuse me, no

1108
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: question about that. That's the only I mean, that's the

1109
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: big question I have with Gardner is can he develop

1110
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: a little more. It's not like it's not like he's

1111
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: a super weak arm, but you just get that one

1112
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: extra notch where he can drive it in the middle

1113
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: of the field. And can he get proficient enough and

1114
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: reading defenses because he's not always gonna see it over

1115
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: the middle because all the bodies in front of the

1116
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: big offensive linem because he's not a big man. Where

1117
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: he can get so proficient and understanding defenses and see

1118
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: it through the lanes and be able to work the

1119
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: entire field. How do you work on arm strength? Doesn't

1120
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: weight room stuff? Is it on the throwing? I mean

1121
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: it worked for him. Whatever he did, Yeah, whatever. I'd

1122
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: start talking to Drew Brees, Tom Brady, those type of

1123
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: guys say hey, what do you guys do? Because well

1124
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: they don't. You remember Drew Brees came out of Ford

1125
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: with the knock that his arm wasn't good enough and

1126
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: then he tore his rotator cuff and labor ham and

1127
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: everything else and he had to rebuild his arm and

1128
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 1: he was the bionic man. Yeah he's not. And Drew's

1129
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: never had the strongest arm, but it's good enough. He

1130
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: can drive the ball down the field. Yeah, you have

1131
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: to be able to drive the ball. I think the

1132
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: first and foremost that's number one, and that you're right, Tony,

1133
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: that's a big issue, But you gotta mid pocket presence

1134
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: and deciphering defenses are two other problems for him. Well.

1135
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: The the recognition of defenses you have to believe and

1136
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: because he's smart, is going to improve with experience. He'll

1137
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: just have seen things and he is very cerebral. Um.

1138
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: The pocket presence, yeah, I know what you're saying, Pete,

1139
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: but I thought it was great yesterday. I thought, at

1140
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 1: times at the beginning the year, he's very good. He

1141
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: went on, he went to a stretch where he was

1142
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: trusting his legs too much, so it was real quick,

1143
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: and yesterday you saw him take a deep breath, go

1144
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: through the progressions and run much less than we had

1145
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: seen leading up to the game against the Colts. It

1146
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: was also protected better. I thought, well, that helps you

1147
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: gotta Yeah, that's why we're talking about you probably need

1148
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: a draft it offensive line maybe too. We were talking

1149
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: about this on the postgame show last night of the

1150
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. How many you're back starting next year? Slender

1151
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: and Taylor, I think Norwell's coming back. I don't know that.

1152
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: I think he's coming back. He might have to take

1153
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: a cut or restructuring or skimming or whatever they want

1154
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 1: to call it. Right now, he has to be willing

1155
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: to do that. But if you go look, you gotta

1156
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: look at his overall grades. Um, I think it wasn't bad.

1157
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't it was it was above average. I think

1158
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: either you draft a left tackle, move Cam inside or

1159
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: let him compete for the left tackle job, or if

1160
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: you don't get a left tackle in the draft that

1161
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 1: you're think it can be that starter. I would move

1162
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: Will Richardson out to left tackle, where he started the

1163
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 1: first two weeks of the season. I thought he played

1164
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 1: pretty well, and I'd make an open competition between Cam

1165
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 1: Robinson and Will works Like. I just looked at a

1166
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: mock draft that had them picking number nine and they

1167
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: had him taking Ceedee Lamb with Andrew Thomas the left

1168
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: tackle on at Georgia on the board. I can't see

1169
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: that happening in a million years. Um, I would not

1170
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 1: think so. I think that would be a mistake. And

1171
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: then they had him taken a corner with the pick.

1172
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at this, you look at this

1173
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: team right now, they couldn't stop the run because of

1174
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: the front seven. I think the linebackers aren't very good

1175
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: right now, and you have a front with the lost

1176
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 1: Darius and he's getting older. We talked about class getting older.

1177
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: Your unique is not a big run stuffer. I think

1178
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: Josh Allen can be outstanding at it. Uh Taman Bryant.

1179
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: Bryant's is two up and down. Still, uh showed some

1180
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: flashes of some good stuff. Avery had his best year

1181
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: when he was a rotational player, not the starter his

1182
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 1: best years, So I really think you need big people.

1183
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: I would focus on the middle of the defense, defensive tackles,

1184
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: middle linebacker, safety. So wait, so you're you're drafting a

1185
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: middle linebacker and admitting that the paying paying Miles Jack

1186
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: was a mistake. Then well, I'm moving him to Will

1187
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 1: because I don't think he's the middle lineback. Then you're

1188
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: admitting that drafting Quincy Williams was a mistake. I'm moving

1189
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: him to Will. I don't think he's a middle linebacker,

1190
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,759
Speaker 1: and I think you need to draft a middle linebacker.

1191
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: Well Tony, if they go to a three four hybrid look,

1192
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 1: he might too be we say he might be too

1193
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 1: little for the inside on that defense, but Lavante David

1194
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: made a nice transition to playing it in Tampa for

1195
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: top bowls. Who you're saying, who might be too little

1196
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: for that? Jack Jack Pete? Have you seen him lately?

1197
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 1: There's nothing little about him. He was actually but yeah,

1198
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: he's gained some weight. Uh, there's nothing with another story nothing. Yeah,

1199
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 1: it looked like he did. And I know he's had

1200
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: problems with that in the pass. So but so could

1201
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: you play him in that role next to another linebacker

1202
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: with go Way and and Alan as your edge guys

1203
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 1: in that situation and you would play and if you

1204
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: brought class down, he would be one of the down guys.

1205
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 1: Avery Jones might be one and maybe Tavin Bryan would

1206
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: be the other. So you're now you're so are you

1207
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 1: saying if you were you'd get rid of Todd Wash

1208
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: I'd consider it. And I don't think if you're Doug

1209
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 1: Brown you can get rid of your coordinators if you're back,

1210
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 1: because I think it's really hard to hire top end

1211
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: coordinators if they know it's a one year, proven type

1212
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: of deal. And what if that's what they want in

1213
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: terms of him to do is to get rid of

1214
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 1: his coordinators and go find new ones again. I think

1215
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,959
Speaker 1: it's hard if you don't have a multi year commitment

1216
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 1: to go get the good coaches because the really the

1217
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 1: top end coaches have options, well, the top end ones do.

1218
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: But San Francisco took a to Robert Sala off the

1219
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 1: off the jag Wars thing and made him into a

1220
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: heck of a coach. He's getting now, he's getting now,

1221
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: he's getting head coaching interviews, second times at chart. I'm

1222
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: good job beaton So I love that. It's not I

1223
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: know what it is. It's solid, but you know what

1224
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying that that to me is like somebody you

1225
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:11,600
Speaker 1: could find somebody like that, will you to take a

1226
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: one year deal. I probably won't take a one year deal,

1227
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: but if he's good enough, they might keep hell and

1228
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 1: might make him the head coach. Yeah maybe, I mean

1229
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 1: let me see what. Yeah, Josh Allen yesterday, how many

1230
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 1: snaps do you think I would say you're low? It's

1231
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: thirty two. It's not enough. Well, you did get a stinger.

1232
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: He missed a couple of series. I think there are

1233
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: fifty six snaps on defense. By the way, Yeah, so

1234
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 1: he played, he played, he played yesterday was okay, yesterday

1235
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 1: was better because not a lot of guys played that

1236
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: many snaps. Will you admit that? Will you say admit

1237
01:12:55,360 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 1: like we want answers? Sony was good yesterday. This is

1238
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: the only game I haven't watched the tape of all year.

1239
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 1: But you were at the game. You saw him. I mean,

1240
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: look good. He had a couple of splash players. Absolutely.

1241
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: To me, his is a consistency issue, and he got

1242
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 1: better throughout the year. So, I mean, there's no doubt

1243
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 1: about that force fumble. I don't even think he saw

1244
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 1: it come out. He was getting ready to dance he

1245
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: kicked it. Quick question, are Ronnie Harrison and Jared Wilson

1246
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 1: is starting safeties in two thousand and twenty. I think

1247
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 1: you got a draft a safety. I agree. So you

1248
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 1: need a corner, a safety, a line middle, linebacker, and

1249
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 1: a big body on defense. Might as well just overhaul

1250
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:43,560
Speaker 1: the whole damn thing. That's where we are. Let's what

1251
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: you need on offense, it's a line tight end, maybe

1252
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 1: two Titans. You need a back or two at least

1253
01:13:54,880 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: one back, wide receiver, playmaker, wide receiver, movie I wide

1254
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: receivers down the line. For me, the Jones kid looked

1255
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 1: like a big body guy or something in the last

1256
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 1: eight months around there. It didn't stand out to me, Pete,

1257
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: but I was, you know, maybe how do he look

1258
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 1: like he was decent in the run game. He's a

1259
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: good he's a good run blocker. It was always the book.

1260
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 1: He's a very good run blocker. So maybe another maybe

1261
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 1: another tight end. And but you need you need someone

1262
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,280
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Speaker 1: we won this game not because of anything else, all right,

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Speaker 1: every family, draw, every family. We stayed together through it all,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate you last time a family all three.

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Speaker 1: It's in the locker room yesterday after the Jaguars win,

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Speaker 1: Doug Marone and then Calais Campbell breaking the team down.

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Speaker 1: is breaking up. This family stays together. That's right. Uh?

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Speaker 1: Do you buy the carryover of winning the last game?

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Speaker 1: And no, no, never, it's different teams. How could it

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Speaker 1: carry over? Space contorted like a like you just said.

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Speaker 1: You used to say that all the time. I got no, Tom,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't carry over, doesn't. I don't think any either.

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Speaker 1: It feels good. Yeah, and you go into the off season, Okay,

1356
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Speaker 1: we want a game? Does it? Would you rather be

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Speaker 1: eight Nate and lose the last one or your record

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Speaker 1: what it is now and win that last one? Come on?

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Speaker 1: Doesn't carry over? So the teams that losing the postseason

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Speaker 1: that carries over to No, it does. None of it

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Speaker 1: carries over. It's it's entirely different teams. They're how many

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Speaker 1: guys are gonna be starting in the same spot going

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Speaker 1: in the next year. Let's go through it. Okay, starting

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks going to be yet defense first, I don't think

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Speaker 1: boy Boy will not be back. I do not think.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the two safeties will be starting.

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Speaker 1: One of them. I Trey Herndon will be starting. I

1368
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Speaker 1: think two. D J. Hayden will be your nickel. That's three.

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Speaker 1: I think uh Josh Allen, four, Tavin is gonna be starting.

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Speaker 1: Five Miles Miles Jack at a different position at will. Okay, um,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna name a three of the five

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Speaker 1: offensive linemen, we'll say three, nine, uh chark ten for

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Speaker 1: net eleven. That's it. So it's entirely Gibertine. And say, well,

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Speaker 1: one of the quarterbacks, the quarterback who's starting is on

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Speaker 1: the roster, So eleven, let's say eleven or twelve, right,

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Speaker 1: not a lot for carry over. It's a lot of

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Speaker 1: new a lot of new faces. By the way, you

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Speaker 1: asked me, if Norwell was the highest rated offensive player

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Speaker 1: is not for the season? Who is Pete Linder? Brandon Linder?

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Speaker 1: The number two ranked offensive player is for the season

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Speaker 1: was DJ Chark. Worst grade of all the players on

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Speaker 1: the offense went to of the starters. They gave well

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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson at a terrible grade. He had by far

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Speaker 1: the worst grade. But A. J. Cann's grade wasn't good,

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Speaker 1: and they gave Taylor a bad grade. Who's the highest

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Speaker 1: rated defensive player for the season. It's easy place, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's easy. Who second? I bet to Trey? Herndon's up there,

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Speaker 1: pretty high. He's not He's number one. Klaas number two.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. Jackson will have at it. Davin Bryant

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Speaker 1: number three, DJ Aiden number four. No. Number three is

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Speaker 1: unique and Gagway. Number four is d J. Hayden. Number

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Speaker 1: five is um the rest of all read. So I'm

1393
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Speaker 1: trying to look you said, Trey Herndon. No, not even close.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna get the PFF. Like, I think

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Speaker 1: they're great, that they're analytics, like all the data they

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Speaker 1: put together, trends, and they always has the preface it

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Speaker 1: by saying that I do. But however, they're grades. I

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Speaker 1: think it's hard to grade a player when you don't

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Speaker 1: know what their assignment is. But you can look at

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Speaker 1: the body of work and say this guy is in

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Speaker 1: the minus for the season, you would David Brian wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be the number two player on that defense in any way,

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Speaker 1: shape or form. No, that's my point. If you look

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Speaker 1: at the defense, no one's gonna say the second best

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Speaker 1: player on the defense is Tavin Bryant or the guy

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Speaker 1: who had the second best year on defense. Okay, here's

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Speaker 1: even better, the second best run defensive grade on the

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Speaker 1: team with the Tavin Bryant. Well, they didn't none of

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Speaker 1: them played well against the run this year, but run

1410
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Speaker 1: defensive grade. But that's it. Let's get to some social questions. UM.

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Speaker 1: Let's start off with at J Matt Moore. I think

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Speaker 1: the case can be made that minshe played better than

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Speaker 1: all the first round quarterbacks, while he's certainly has been

1414
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Speaker 1: rather inconsistent in times bad. Do you think that says

1415
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Speaker 1: something about his ceiling? What would each of you do

1416
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Speaker 1: about the quarterback situation if you were GM? We touched

1417
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Speaker 1: on this earlier, but let's rehash it again. Pete, what

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Speaker 1: would you do? I would try and get Folds to retire,

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Speaker 1: Please Nick, retire, go spend time with the family. That

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Speaker 1: would be my first priority. If he wouldn't do that,

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Speaker 1: then I would try and trade him. If I couldn't

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Speaker 1: trade him, then I'd go to camp with those two

1423
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Speaker 1: and go compete for the job with Minshew taken the

1424
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Speaker 1: first snaps total, you look exhausted. Well, I mean, Pete

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Speaker 1: is like wishing why would he retire? Pete, He's not

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Speaker 1: gonna walk away from money? Come on, I'm not saying

1427
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Speaker 1: he is. I'm saying I would hope he would. I know,

1428
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Speaker 1: but that's why you're you're a bad GM. That's dumb.

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Speaker 1: That's a good GM. You're getting that money off the

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Speaker 1: books at the great GM. No, but you're hoping. You

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Speaker 1: don't have a plan Hope is not a plan. Pete Hope.

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Speaker 1: It's a good thing. My plan wouldn't have included signing

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Speaker 1: into that stupid contract you have him now. Um, I

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Speaker 1: think you're going to camp with both of them. I

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Speaker 1: don't think I'm not going to trade a draft pick

1436
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 1: for someone to take a salary. No way, you wouldn't

1437
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 1: four to take a salary. Five. You just said you

1438
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Speaker 1: wouldn't trade a draft pick. I got you already negotiating

1439
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Speaker 1: your down six seven. Um, I give up a five

1440
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Speaker 1: for I'm going to camp. I'm going to camp. Mentionoos

1441
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Speaker 1: the starter, but it's a competitions who wins it up? Okay,

1442
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 1: but then you go into the season. No, I'm naming

1443
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 1: my starter week three, preseason, and that's the guy. We're

1444
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: not doing this. You know, he's not looking over his shoulder,

1445
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 1: and we're not doing this Merry brand stuff. And I

1446
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Speaker 1: tell the guys going in, whoever wins it, you're the

1447
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Speaker 1: guy for the year. How many of these quarterback competitions

1448
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 1: are actually real competitions? Um, I think it's the good

1449
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: places they are. I mean, I'll go back to Russell

1450
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 1: Wilson beat out uh, the kid from Green Bay. What

1451
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: was his name flat beat him out. Well, they're real.

1452
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 1: They're particularly real when you don't have one. I mean

1453
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville doesn't have one yet, so they gotta find him.

1454
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Speaker 1: So that's why it's a It will be a legitimate competition.

1455
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 1: But I'm with Tony. The guy who wins it can't

1456
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 1: be getting yanked in and out and playing tight because

1457
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 1: he's looking over his shoulder. It's his job. Period. Let's

1458
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Speaker 1: move forward. Next question at Hodari eleven if con let's

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Speaker 1: go m on, what coach do you believe will be

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Speaker 1: the best for the organization. What was the biggest blunder

1461
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Speaker 1: this past year. I'm not gonna do that because I

1462
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 1: don't like talking about other coaches taking a job that

1463
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 1: is not vacant, especially when it's in our own backyard.

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Speaker 1: I will, I will, Okay, I won't, So let me

1465
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 1: finish Pete. You know Doug Barron's head coach. Um. I

1466
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: think Doug Barone is a good coach. I think he

1467
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 1: is a good you know, And you think he's still

1468
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 1: going to be the head I still think he's gonna

1469
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 1: be that coach. I'm not gonna let mean, that's a

1470
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 1: dumb question for me. It's a fair question. I just

1471
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 1: don't like it. What was the biggest blunder? Then? Where

1472
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 1: do you want to start? Um nick Foles signing Nick

1473
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 1: Foles the biggest blunder by far nick Foles? What do

1474
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 1: you mean? It is? Okay? It is? I mean, okay,

1475
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 1: do you agree? You would you agree that that's the

1476
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 1: biggest plunder? You pay that kind of money to a

1477
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 1: quarterback and he's sitting on his ass on the bench,

1478
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:00,719
Speaker 1: that's the biggest plunder. Yeah? Close to is did Jalen

1479
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 1: Ramsey saga? Well that one might actually end up working

1480
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: in their advantage They got rid of it. I'm just

1481
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 1: saying for this year, just the whole thing and how

1482
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 1: it kind of the way things went, and then the

1483
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: actually and I'll say even the bigger blunder than both

1484
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 1: of those was the run defense that was that was

1485
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 1: not a good one. You know, gotta be thinking, is

1486
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey a bad pick now that they netted two

1487
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 1: ones for him? It depends on what those two ones produce.

1488
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 1: I think we did this the other night, right, I

1489
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: mean the other week where we went through the draft

1490
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 1: picks and we couldn't really figure out is that a

1491
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 1: good pick or that it was a good pick at

1492
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 1: the time, but you don't know what the return is yet.

1493
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 1: It's only right if the picks they get are good

1494
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 1: value and good players. It's a hit. You want to

1495
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 1: answer the first part of the question, Pete, Yeah, what

1496
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:53,639
Speaker 1: who would be some of the candidates? I mean, you'd

1497
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 1: have to call Joshua Daniels. I think that would make

1498
01:28:56,160 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. Um, why wouldn't you call Gray Roman?

1499
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 1: Look what he's done now that you have a different

1500
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 1: offense and different quarterback. But the guy has done some

1501
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:10,640
Speaker 1: brilliant stuff in Baltimore. I think Kevin Stefanski, the offensive coordinator,

1502
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy would be at the top of my list.

1503
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 1: I'd give Mike McCarthy called. I think there's a lot

1504
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 1: of guys out there what about? But I'm with Tony.

1505
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 1: I think Doug's coming back? What about? And not for

1506
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 1: here other places, because again I'm not going to talk

1507
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,759
Speaker 1: about any coaches because Doug is our coach and until

1508
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,600
Speaker 1: we find out out anything different, you know he's the

1509
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 1: guy we're rolling with. Um, you don't play anymore. It's

1510
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 1: not your coach. You're in the media, Okay. I'm part

1511
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 1: of the organization. Pete I'm not selfish. I'm not selfish

1512
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 1: like you. What about Eric B. Enemy? I love Eric B. Enemy.

1513
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:45,520
Speaker 1: I think Eric Enemy is going to interview in Carolina.

1514
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get a couple other interviews. I

1515
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 1: think he would be a really good coach. It's an

1516
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 1: interesting study if you look at Andy Reid's coaching tree,

1517
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 1: guys who coach for Andy Reid have had a ton

1518
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 1: of success in the NFL, especially when you compared to

1519
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 1: other coaching trees. And name me one big one, Bill Belichick.

1520
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:10,719
Speaker 1: But you look at the guys who coach for Andy Reid. Uh, Hardball, McDermott, Naggy,

1521
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 1: uh Uh, who's the coach? Verdict? The verdicts at Naggie?

1522
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 1: What about the coach? Peterson? Yeah? I agree. I think

1523
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:24,719
Speaker 1: I think Eric B. Enemy would be a great coach.

1524
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get hired in this cycle. How

1525
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 1: can he faces some of the problems that Naggie, you know,

1526
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 1: face was People always say, with Andy Reid's offense, how

1527
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 1: do you Why are you down on Naggie? He was

1528
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 1: coach of the year last year they won seven or

1529
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 1: eight games. I don't think you get a good job

1530
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 1: this year. That's why he doesn't have a quarterback Pete. Yeah.

1531
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 1: I also don't like the way it calls games at times.

1532
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 1: That's it's me. I don't know. Maybe he's restricted by

1533
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 1: the fact that this quarterback isn't good. I think I

1534
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 1: think Stefanski is going to get in the mix at

1535
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 1: the Vikings off as a coordinator. Uh, he almost got

1536
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 1: the Cleveland job last time. He's going to be in

1537
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 1: that thing. There's there's Ron Rivere is getting the Redskin's job.

1538
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 1: That one is pretty much done. And then Matt Rule.

1539
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 1: You keep here, Matt Rule to the Giants if that,

1540
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,720
Speaker 1: and then the Cowboys haven't fired Jason Garrett yet, but

1541
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 1: if they fire them, I think they're gonna go target

1542
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. But after the other night, the guy hasn't

1543
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 1: had a defense and in his whole entire time there, Well,

1544
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 1: you don't, I mean number one, Jerry does not have

1545
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 1: to fire Jason Garrett. Jason Garrett's contract is up. He

1546
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,759
Speaker 1: can just let him walk. Well it's technically a firing.

1547
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 1: Well no, technically it's okay, Samanics. He's gonna let him.

1548
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna wait to January eighteenth, when his contract is done,

1549
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 1: to let him go before hiring somebody. Yeah, probably, I

1550
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 1: don't think. The next question, and this is the topic

1551
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 1: we've covered already, but let's rehash it again. A lot

1552
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 1: has been made about unique and the possibility of using

1553
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 1: the franchise tag. Is this a viable answer to keeping

1554
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 1: ninety one around for the long term given the other

1555
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 1: salary cap situations on the team, Why or why not?

1556
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 1: If you don't sign him long term, you gotta keep

1557
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:09,599
Speaker 1: him around with that, right and then maybe negotiate again.

1558
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 1: That's your tool. That's a long term solution. It's a

1559
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 1: short term solution. And uh, I would use it, would

1560
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 1: use it. I would use it too. I'm not year

1561
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 1: old pass rusher go out the door. Just not And Tony,

1562
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,600
Speaker 1: you always talk about it. What are you replacing him with?

1563
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 1: That's right now, He's not gonna be happy. Everyone has

1564
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 1: understand that you sign him to you put the tag

1565
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:41,559
Speaker 1: on him. Yahn is going to negotiate and come up

1566
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:43,720
Speaker 1: with a better deal. That just gives you more time

1567
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: to do it. Next question at Terence L. Hayes, Tony

1568
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 1: said we should start the offseason with a quarterback competition

1569
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 1: between fools and Minshew. Didn't the team just do this?

1570
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 1: For sixteen games. Was Minshew's performance as the top rookie

1571
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:02,599
Speaker 1: quarterback not enough to at least allow him to lead

1572
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 1: us into If you listen to what I actually said,

1573
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:08,560
Speaker 1: I said, Mitsche has the head start. He is. He

1574
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 1: is just gonna be the guy who's gonna take the

1575
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 1: first team reps first. But I don't buy just riding

1576
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 1: off Nick Foles because of a two and a half

1577
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 1: game sample size after you paid him eighty eight million dollars. Now,

1578
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 1: don't make a decision just because you pay them eight

1579
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 1: million dollars. That's the worst thing that teams can do.

1580
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 1: But he has a small sample size of what we

1581
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 1: have seen. Here's the thing in training camp, JP, you're

1582
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:36,600
Speaker 1: at every practice, Pete, you came to something, I was

1583
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 1: at a lot of them. Was there? Was it even close?

1584
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 1: When you watched Mintshew and Foals wasn't even close. It

1585
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 1: was clear. It was clear that Folds was the better quarterback.

1586
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,639
Speaker 1: He got hurt on the eleventh play, which everyone forgets.

1587
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 1: He got hammered into a perfect pass. Was taking the

1588
01:33:55,560 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 1: first snap next next season in September, I would be

1589
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 1: if I was laying money right now, I'm saying I

1590
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 1: think Minchi wins the battle for entertainment purposes only, of course, Yeah,

1591
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 1: I don't don't. I don't bet on sports ever, never ever, ever,

1592
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 1: who who would ever, ever, ever ever just clarified, never

1593
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 1: selly who would it be? I think, uh, it's I

1594
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 1: would have a competition. Like I said, Folds, I mean,

1595
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 1: MITCHI is gonna take the first team reps uh for

1596
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 1: the first o t A. They're both gonna have opportunities.

1597
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 1: The better quarterback will play opening day. Right now, I

1598
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 1: would say I would lean towards it being mint. You well,

1599
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 1: then then that solidifies that the twenty million dollar quarterback

1600
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 1: was a total disaster. That would probably say that, yes, hypothetically,

1601
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 1: here Pete, if they do somehow get Folds off the books,

1602
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 1: they're drafted a guy, right, should get down on their

1603
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 1: knees and thank the high Havens, and then they're drafting

1604
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 1: a guy. At that point. I'm drafting a quarterback no

1605
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 1: matter what I am too at some point, and if

1606
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 1: two is there when I'm picking at nine, I got

1607
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 1: to do my due diligence on that injury and go

1608
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 1: look at him, and I might take him. I don't

1609
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:15,680
Speaker 1: disagree with how many left handed quarterbacks are there in

1610
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 1: the league right now. Many Well there's that aging guy,

1611
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 1: Mark Brunell. He's still around and he only played thirty

1612
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 1: five years. How many years to play like, It's unbelievable.

1613
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:32,599
Speaker 1: God bless him. But there aren't many I think active

1614
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 1: right now, come to think of it. Yeah, just an

1615
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 1: oddity of them in history though. Yeah. I Stabler right

1616
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 1: left Boomer, Yeah, Douglas, Steve Steve Young talk about Bobby Douglas.

1617
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,800
Speaker 1: The worst pastor you've ever seen your entire life? Was it?

1618
01:35:55,920 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 1: Will Fu're left handed? Yes, so that would actually made

1619
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 1: you a left tackle that at that time? What you

1620
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:12,759
Speaker 1: never heard that argument? Because Mark bron was left handed?

1621
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 1: You were? He said, make any sense? You said it

1622
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 1: backwards feet? That's okay, vital question. This is actually from

1623
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:23,040
Speaker 1: the game yesterday at Jakun Kune too. What was the

1624
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 1: biggest difference for the offense this game that helped them

1625
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 1: have greater success? I thought they were more aggressive. I

1626
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:32,680
Speaker 1: thought they played loser. Let's just say it. No. I

1627
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:35,680
Speaker 1: thought they were more aggressive. They're more vertical. They came

1628
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 1: out throwing it early, and we heard that team that

1629
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 1: looked like it didn't care if it turned the ball

1630
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 1: over with it they played looser. We well, you all

1631
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 1: say this. Doug Brown actually said it, so did Flip

1632
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 1: during that five game stretch, especially at the end of it,

1633
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 1: that they were going to try to shorten games. And

1634
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 1: I thought they were very conservative. And this is what

1635
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 1: I said earlier this morning, and some people didn't like

1636
01:36:56,040 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 1: the comment. It was on Twitter. I was a saying

1637
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 1: anything negative about Leonard for Nett. I just felt like

1638
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 1: they forced it to shorten the game and just to

1639
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 1: be this very conservative, pounded, just pounded, pounded, pounded, and

1640
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:15,679
Speaker 1: you know, be very conservative and try not to make mistakes,

1641
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 1: try to get it into the fourth quarter and see

1642
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 1: if you can win a football game, which was a disaster.

1643
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 1: You know what that when you say you're going to

1644
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 1: shorten the game, you know what, that says that you're

1645
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 1: playing not to lose rather than to win. That's what

1646
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 1: that is. That's fair. And I thought yesterday they came

1647
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,599
Speaker 1: out and they were way more aggressive. Yeah, I agree,

1648
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:37,760
Speaker 1: and it looked better. Alright, Social questions are endless. Come back,

1649
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 1: we'll review Black Monday so far scary, and then before

1650
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 1: the end of the show, we'll take a look at

1651
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:50,120
Speaker 1: Wild Monday Night thing tonight. That's done. It's over. You

1652
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 1: have to pick one of the wild card games. You

1653
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:55,559
Speaker 1: gotta do it for the wild Card game. Just do one,

1654
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 1: and you have to do it all. No script, no script,

1655
01:37:58,360 --> 01:37:59,600
Speaker 1: you gotta do. Have to top of your head. I

1656
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 1: want to music and we're gonna judge a tradition like

1657
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 1: no other. We have to finish with that. Let's cover

1658
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 1: it up in about twenty minutes or so. Back with

1659
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:09,719
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Speaker 1: let's put it that way. So um, speaking up Black

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Speaker 1: Monday today and earlier obviously the Panther inspired Ron Rivera

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01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 1: that was December three. That's still vacant, right, Pete, what's

1727
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Speaker 1: the what's the kind of feel in Carolina right now.

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01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 1: Offensive young offensive guy or an offensive guy. Maybe Mike McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: they've talked to him. Maybe Kevin Stefanski, Eric b Enemy,

1730
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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, the usual names there, Washington Redskins, Ron Rivera

1731
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Speaker 1: reportedly in there, and Bruce Allen out Pete Well. I mean,

1732
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Speaker 1: after about forty years, it's time for Bruce Allen to go.

1733
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Speaker 1: And uh, here's this problem. And you guys know this.

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Speaker 1: The problem in Washington is the owner. That's the problem.

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Speaker 1: And he no matter who he hires, how he hires,

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Speaker 1: the type of coachi hires, he's just not winning. And

1737
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Speaker 1: that's why it's the problem. I'm glad for Ron Rivera.

1738
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Speaker 1: The good news for Ron Rivera is if he does

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Speaker 1: get the job, and it's not finalized yet, uh, he

1740
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Speaker 1: will have control of the fifty three man roster. He

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Speaker 1: will also be able to bring in a personnel guy

1742
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 1: to work with him. I think that's very important for him.

1743
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 1: Pat Sherman out of the Giants. Not surprising, No, no,

1744
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 1: it should have happened. Uh. Not a good not a

1745
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 1: good you know tenure in Cleveland, not a good tenure

1746
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Speaker 1: with the Giants. The only thing I could have thought

1747
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Speaker 1: of if to bring it back is you have a

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Speaker 1: young quarterback and now you're changing offenses again, and so

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Speaker 1: that from that standpoint, sometimes they keep the coach for continuity.

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Speaker 1: That's usually a mistake. I think the Giants got it right.

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01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 1: Matt Rule, who was born in New York, lived in

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Speaker 1: New York, worked for the Giants at one point with

1753
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Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman. I think he's the leading candidate to go

1754
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 1: become the coach of the Giants. Freddie Kitchens one and

1755
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Speaker 1: done in Cleveland, and they've got a track record of

1756
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Speaker 1: head coaching changes. The haslums as owners, well, that's it

1757
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:58,040
Speaker 1: was the wrong higher first of all. But they left

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield make the higher. Never you can. You can

1759
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Speaker 1: never allow your quarterback or your players to make the highest.

1760
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing that they were five there were five

1761
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Speaker 1: too and one and everyone gave Freddy Kitchens all the credit,

1762
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Speaker 1: but it was really Greg Williams, who's that coach when

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Speaker 1: they did that, If anything, they should have just kept

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Speaker 1: Greg there as the head coach and like Greg bill

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Speaker 1: the staff. I mean, if you wanted to have continuity

1766
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Speaker 1: based on what you you did to finish the season out,

1767
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Speaker 1: but Freddy Kitchens to start last year was a running

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Speaker 1: back coach. Got the job because Todd Haley got fired

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Speaker 1: mid season, and I think they put him in a

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Speaker 1: tough situation and he could well, yeah, they he was

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Speaker 1: set up to fail. He wasn't a he wasn't ready

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Speaker 1: for the job. Be they got all the bells and

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Speaker 1: whistles and forgot to get the meat and potatoes. I

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Speaker 1: mean they had one of the worst the right time.

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Speaker 1: That right and left tackle on that team were atrocious,

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Speaker 1: like and so you have all those egos on that

1777
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Speaker 1: offense without the ability to protect the quarterback. And then

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Speaker 1: he didn't play well. So, uh, they he was set

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Speaker 1: up to fail. It should have never happened out. Who's

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Speaker 1: going to get the job if you're Josh McDaniels and

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Speaker 1: you grew up thirty minutes away from there, imagine he

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Speaker 1: grew up a Browns fan. Is that your dream job?

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Speaker 1: And you go back to Ohio and take that job

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Speaker 1: knowing that the Hasms have the quick trigger. I don't

1785
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Speaker 1: know if I would take that if I was Josh McDaniels.

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Speaker 1: Is is Odell Beckham Jr. Gonna be back? Yes? Yes,

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Speaker 1: you don't let that go out to the door, you

1788
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Speaker 1: make the move to go get he did nothing, but

1789
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Speaker 1: he just hurt all year two. He had the core

1790
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Speaker 1: muscles supposedly, it's been bothering me for about six weeks.

1791
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Speaker 1: And the offensive line was terrible. Do you who got

1792
01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:41,680
Speaker 1: the better of that deal? The Giants or the or

1793
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 1: the of the Browns? What did the Giants good for him?

1794
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:51,280
Speaker 1: They got Peppers who hasn't didn't work out for him?

1795
01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:56,680
Speaker 1: And what draft picks did they get? I mean then

1796
01:45:56,760 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 1: there was the the trade for uh Olivier Vernon, remember

1797
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:10,679
Speaker 1: that one. I think the Giants uh the Brown's first

1798
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 1: round pick, go Dowell. Beckham is a super talented but

1799
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 1: tell me the last time a team like he helped

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Speaker 1: the team win? Right? Would you take right now? If

1801
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Speaker 1: you were the Giants, You're glad you got the seventeenth

1802
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 1: overall pick in exchange for for Beckham. Yeah. And Jamal

1803
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:32,599
Speaker 1: Peppers played pretty well the first half of the season, Pete, Yeah,

1804
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 1: he played pretty well. Strong scenes he's okay, he's okay.

1805
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:39,680
Speaker 1: But the Giants got the better on the Zeitler for

1806
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:44,880
Speaker 1: Vernon trade. Absolutely, yeah, that was a mistake on the

1807
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 1: part of that that front office. But to as you

1808
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:50,479
Speaker 1: question about Kitchens. He was in over his head. Now

1809
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 1: they have to go find a guy that can bring

1810
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 1: that whole thing together. Good luck the the other names

1811
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 1: that have been declared safe least so far. Adam Gates

1812
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 1: with the Jets getting more coming back that Patricia with

1813
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:07,479
Speaker 1: the Lions getting more time. That woul't surprised me. That

1814
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Speaker 1: won't surprised me, did it. They? Well, they fired Jim

1815
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Speaker 1: Coldway after to what nine and seven seasons? Mhm, the

1816
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Speaker 1: Falcons brain trust is back. We thought that was gonna happen.

1817
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 1: When you were up there for the you thought that

1818
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:28,240
Speaker 1: was gonna happen to that team kind of rallied around

1819
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 1: that guy. They finished. They started one and seven, finished

1820
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 1: six and two. Yeah, I would have brought him back

1821
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 1: to him. And you think it's over in Dallas, Yes,

1822
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:42,920
Speaker 1: whether it's at the semantics of it, whether it's yeah,

1823
01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:46,680
Speaker 1: I I see no no scenario where Jason Garrett's back

1824
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Speaker 1: his head coach. Would you hire Lincoln Riley? Um? I

1825
01:47:56,320 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 1: don't know. He's the hot name right now. I don't know.

1826
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:03,000
Speaker 1: Somebody in my office was saying, oh, well, look Kingsbury

1827
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:05,000
Speaker 1: went there and had success and he couldn't win in

1828
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:08,160
Speaker 1: the big twelve, you know, because he did. Kingsbury actually

1829
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:09,840
Speaker 1: did a nice job in Arizona. They didn't win a

1830
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:13,240
Speaker 1: lot of games, but they got better. But there's a

1831
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:15,600
Speaker 1: big difference between coaching the Texas Tech and coaching in

1832
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:18,680
Speaker 1: Oklahoma considering what you have to work with. I think

1833
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:20,639
Speaker 1: Leg Roley is a really good coach. I think you'd

1834
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:24,200
Speaker 1: have success in the NFL. But Tony, you know this,

1835
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:28,000
Speaker 1: you play, it's more about how you handle and doubt

1836
01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:31,760
Speaker 1: your roster in your locker room and delegate as much

1837
01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 1: as it is for xs and ohs. Well, it's your presence,

1838
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:37,880
Speaker 1: it's your leadership at your ability to get you know,

1839
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:42,439
Speaker 1: fifty three type A men have you know or half crazy?

1840
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 1: I mean all of us are crazy in this game.

1841
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 1: All of us are crazy in the world. So let's

1842
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 1: let's stop there. But everybody's crazy. But to look at

1843
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 1: you as the man and say, I'm gonna follow this guy,

1844
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what he says, I'm gonna do what

1845
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:55,439
Speaker 1: he asked. I'm gonna play hard for him. I mean

1846
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:57,160
Speaker 1: that's the job of the head coach and getting good

1847
01:48:57,200 --> 01:49:01,640
Speaker 1: coordinators right and if there is an incident, dealing with it,

1848
01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 1: not allowing somebody else to get away with one thing

1849
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:08,440
Speaker 1: while he penalizing somebody else. There's gotta be all consistent consistency.

1850
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:12,519
Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot more than just calling plays.

1851
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:14,720
Speaker 1: And when you look at Lick and Riley, look, it

1852
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 1: looks like he can handle it. But it's a big

1853
01:49:16,439 --> 01:49:19,640
Speaker 1: difference handling grown men and handling college kids. Who was

1854
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:22,040
Speaker 1: the last college coach to go to the NFL and

1855
01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:27,519
Speaker 1: have success in the NFL? Pete Carroll, Well, he didn't

1856
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 1: have success in the NFL right away. Yeah, okay, he

1857
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 1: was already a coach in the NFL. No, but he

1858
01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:34,799
Speaker 1: went to He was a college coach, won multiple national titles.

1859
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 1: Left he had already been a head coach at the NFL.

1860
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Speaker 1: You're missing my point. He came from college. He won

1861
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:42,680
Speaker 1: national titles at college. That's not what JP's asking you.

1862
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:45,120
Speaker 1: That JP's asking you about the guy who was in

1863
01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:48,080
Speaker 1: college and took the leap to the NFL. Pete Carroll

1864
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:50,320
Speaker 1: had already been in the NFL before he went back

1865
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 1: to college. John Robinson did it back at the day

1866
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:56,639
Speaker 1: with the Rams. He had success of the Rams. Bill

1867
01:49:56,680 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 1: Walsh did it. Yes, Jimmy Johnson did it. Jimmy Johnson,

1868
01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 1: Bill Walsh Switcher on a Super Bowl trying to think

1869
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Speaker 1: who else has done Yeah, Switcher out that, but Nick

1870
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Speaker 1: Nick Saban didn't do well doing it? No, who Okay, listen,

1871
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:22,920
Speaker 1: who are the last ones who actually made the jump?

1872
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 1: It's been a while well, I mean people you always

1873
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 1: hear the the well did it? I mean that was

1874
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:41,639
Speaker 1: a while? Yeah? What about the NFL too? What about

1875
01:50:41,760 --> 01:50:44,280
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer? Would he be a good, good NFL head coach?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Tony. I think I think he has

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Speaker 1: he'd be. I think he put together a good staff.

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Speaker 1: I think, Okay, here's a couple other ones. What do

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Speaker 1: you think. I think there's a track record of him

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Speaker 1: when the pressure is really tight, I'll be able to

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Speaker 1: work in the end. That's what I said. That's why

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Speaker 1: I think he did. How about here, I give you

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Speaker 1: a couple other ones. Yeah, quick, Bobby Petrino, that didn't work,

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Speaker 1: didn't work already Dennis ericson. Okay, which Davis, that's right,

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Speaker 1: didn't work. Mike Riley did not work. June Jones did

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Speaker 1: Bud Wilkinson didn't work. All right, let's go, we gotta,

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1946
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1947
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Speaker 1: saving is a beautiful thing. The final a few minutes

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Speaker 1: of Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday for this season.

1953
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Speaker 1: This is the last show. This is it. J P. Shattrick,

1954
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Speaker 1: Tony was Elly, Pete Priscoe. Tony is on Twitter, digging deep.

1955
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Speaker 1: Even in the final moments of the show. Pete, he

1956
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Speaker 1: can't get off of Twitter. He can't do it. He's

1957
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out how many people were getting mad

1958
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Speaker 1: at him again today. Well, I'm sure there's a there's

1959
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Speaker 1: a lot of them. It's unbelievable. People are on Twitter

1960
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Speaker 1: They say, okay, Boomer, they act like that bothers me.

1963
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1964
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Speaker 1: a very thin skin. It's funny. So like there was

1965
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Speaker 1: another tweet that so I did like ten ten. Every

1966
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Speaker 1: time I do the show, they they pull quotes out

1967
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Speaker 1: of what I say. Correct, Yeah, I see him in

1968
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Speaker 1: the morning, and I don't remember saying it quite like this,

1969
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Speaker 1: but that's fine. So there they're asked me to your

1970
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Speaker 1: point about Twitter being angry, and I said this about

1971
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Speaker 1: your honest and he turned down nine team million, and

1972
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Speaker 1: I like you, and he's a guy you wanted your team.

1973
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Speaker 1: But this is back to back seasons with under ten sex.

1974
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Speaker 1: If he's asking for twenty plus, you have to take

1975
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Speaker 1: a deep breath and ask if this is really what

1976
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Speaker 1: you want to do. Pretty tame comment when you say, pete, yeah,

1977
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Speaker 1: very I mean. And then people are like, pay them,

1978
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Speaker 1: pay them with all due respect, both the Jaggers have

1979
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Speaker 1: paid a whole lot more for a whole lot less.

1980
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Speaker 1: And then one guy says, shake my head, they just

1981
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Speaker 1: don't like the guy. Who's I mean, I just said, like,

1982
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Speaker 1: who knows? I mean, I don't know. I can't please,

1983
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Speaker 1: everybody can't do it all right, Let's preview the game's

1984
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Speaker 1: coming up on wild Card weekend. First of all, four

1985
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Speaker 1: thirty five on Saturday, the Buffalo Bills at the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: This is a traditional a f C South champion spot

1987
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Speaker 1: the early game on Saturday. Pete, it seems like the

1988
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Speaker 1: champion always plays on Saturday. Yeah, well, whoever wins is

1989
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Speaker 1: always playing early on Saturday. From that that, because it's

1990
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Speaker 1: smaller markets and people don't care about them. I think

1991
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Speaker 1: Buffalo goes in there and wins. I think Texans have

1992
01:57:47,640 --> 01:57:51,000
Speaker 1: some issues, particularly on defense, and Tony saw him two

1993
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:52,720
Speaker 1: weeks ago. They don't rush the past are well enough.

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Speaker 1: I think Buffalo's defense is going to limit what Deshaun

1995
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Speaker 1: Watson does. I like the Bills to win that game. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'll go with Bills as well. Now the question is

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Speaker 1: is will Fuller playing? Probably not, then I go for

1998
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Speaker 1: Bills for sure. Our next game on Saturday, the big

1999
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Speaker 1: game in the wild Card Weekend and eight fifteen Eastern

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Speaker 1: times start in Foxborough, Massachusetts, the Tennessee Titans. With Derrick

2001
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Speaker 1: Henry the league's leading rusher. They head into New England

2002
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Speaker 1: to face the Patriots and the top defense in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: They're playing on wild card weekend for the first time

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Speaker 1: in a decade. Who you got Titans Patriots? First? Welcome?

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Speaker 1: Very good. By the way, did did Jaguars defensive players

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Speaker 1: get the presents from Derrick Henry? You know how running

2007
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Speaker 1: backs usually give their linemen some presents Christmas watch or something.

2008
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Speaker 1: Did the Jaguars defensive players get something for allowing him

2009
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Speaker 1: to lead the league in rushing? Who? What? What was

2010
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Speaker 1: this total rushing yards? I forget right at the top

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Speaker 1: of my head, but I can't get who you're liking

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Speaker 1: that one? First off? I like I like the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna take him away. How about this stat? Ryan

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Speaker 1: tanney Hill is oh and six against the Patriots and

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Speaker 1: he's got five touchdown passes and ten picks. I'm doing

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Speaker 1: the game, so you're not gonna make a pick, or

2017
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Speaker 1: you can do that thing where you're not making I

2018
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Speaker 1: probably shouldn't make a pick, but I will. I'm going

2019
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Speaker 1: Pats all right, Vikings, Saints quick one word Saints and

2020
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Speaker 1: Eagles and Eagles Eagles. You have it, Pete, We'll talk

2021
01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:37,600
Speaker 1: to you soon down the line. Well done, Pete. Frisco,

2022
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Speaker 1: Tony Basselli. I'm J. P. Shadrick. Thank you for listening

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Speaker 1: all year. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.