WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Trey Way 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:05.840 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:07.440 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:17.160 Cowboys, Are you ready for a break? 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:17.720 Yes? 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:19.560 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:20.400 Absolutely? 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:22.520 Ready for a break? 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:24.720 Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:26.920 It's time for The Break. 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:29.160 On Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:29.880 We were on. 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:32.360 Break with Ambar Garcia. 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:36.800 Brian brought us, Nick Harris and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.199 It is Tuesday, August thirteenth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:49.680 episode number sixteen. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break, 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:53.600 Live from Oxnard, California. We are entering the third week 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.360 of training camp out here in Oxnard. We will have 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:57.960 about a week and a half left. 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.680 Man, I am sick of you counting these damn man, 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:02.880 they need more practice time out here. 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:04.720 No, good, we're good. We got plenty. 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:06.240 I think we can. I think we could do ten 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:06.640 more days. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.360 I think we right Cleveland practice good, ready for Cleveland 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:09.959 week out here? 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:13.080 No, no, we're good, and we're good. Chris, Chris Beam, 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:14.600 our producer, just gave me the hands. 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.480 We got ten ten days left before we will be 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:18.680 back in Dallas. 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:20.880 Some of us will be leaving a little earlier. 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:22.720 Than that, but we won't talk about that right now, 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:27.360 But let's talk about the somebody. Oh yeah, we are 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.440 presented by LGLG is the world's number one O led 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:32.600 TV brand for eleven years in counting. See why at 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:36.000 LG dot com, Ford slash o led Evo. All right, 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:39.080 let's talk about Cowboys game. They had their first preseason 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:40.080 game over the weekend. 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:41.440 We were there. 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.760 Uh, they played the Los Angeles Rams. They lose thirteen 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:47.560 twelve scores. Not really that important. You come out of 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:49.680 practice preseason games. You want to get some good work 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.960 for your young guys, and you want to keep everybody healthy. 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.920 Cowboys stayed pretty clean. One injury that did happen during 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:57.880 the game Toomey Dooga. 0:01:57.920 --> 0:01:59.720 What do we know at this point, Yeah, Chumaydoga. 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:01.960 He left in the first quarter and he was seen 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.600 with a boot around his left foot going into the 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:06.360 rest of the game and then going into the locker room. 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.640 He was in street clothes and had that boot on 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.120 his left foot. And it's kind of interesting too, because 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.119 this time last year he was battling an ankle out 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.880 here at training camp. But it seems at this time 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:17.799 it's sounding to be a little bit more serious. We'll 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:20.200 find out more for Mike McCarthy today at his press 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.280 conference eleven thirty a in Pacific one thirty three folks 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:26.560 back out in Dallas. But that could be that could 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.799 be the catalyst towards Tyler Geiton getting some more first 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:30.440 team reps. I know a lot of people have been 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:32.840 asking for it, and I think the virus that he 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.040 had a couple of weeks ago maybe slowed the process 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:38.080 even from the coaching staff's perspective. But now it sounds 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:39.840 like there's gonna be a huge opportunity in front of 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.000 him this week, not only in the game on Saturday 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.520 against the Raiders, but another joint practice with the Rams 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:45.079 on Wednesday. 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.040 So expects sixty to get a lot of work. 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:49.280 It's one of the things. 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:51.680 It's one of the things actually that that coming out 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.640 of that game he got a lot more work than 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:55.480 maybe they were even expecting for him. 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:56.760 Would you guys see from him? 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:58.200 Yeah? Yeah. 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.440 The thing with the thing with Geyton, and it's so 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.120 evident and by the way, if he could go of 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.040 missing a week of practice basically and playing at the 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.520 level that he played at in that football game, it's 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.280 kind of a good sign for your Dallas Cowboys. 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:12.959 Right there with it. 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:16.800 It's fun to watch him play when you could see 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:20.320 the athletic ability, and especially the very first rep he 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:24.760 has and it's a pass set and you see him 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:29.040 duck his head, and usually when an offensive tackle or 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.520 blocker ducks his head, all that waits forward and you 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:32.960 see the. 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.040 Defender grab and work around him that way. 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:39.400 But his ability to duck his head but then recover 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.600 with the footwork and then get his hands in place 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.920 and then keep the rusher wide push the rusher by 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:48.640 that was a really good sign to me. 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.280 That just shows you his athletic ability. It shows you 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:52.360 the link that he has. 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:56.080 And from that point on, when you started to evaluate 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:58.680 him getting off the football in the running game, they 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.440 tried to run the crack toss. He's knocking guys down 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:04.160 on the crack toss, playing in space. There were a 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.120 lot of positives about a guy, again that didn't practice 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:09.800 all that much last week, if at all. Yeah, and 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:11.840 for him to work his way back in I think 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.800 it's a good scignce. It's unfortunate for a Doga. It 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:16.920 seems like this training camp he has had to deal 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.000 with a lot of things. He had a lower back problem, 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:23.359 he had backspasms. Now he's got the condition with his foot. 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:25.960 We'll see how that all plays out. But yeah, they 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.200 now have to kind of figure out how things are 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:32.440 going to work out at this tackle spot with Geydon, 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:34.600 Like we get in the line's share of the reps, 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.880 but then what's going to happen behind that, because they 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:39.960 that's something that you know, you don't want to go 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:43.800 into the season if a doogas say long term and 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:45.919 we don't know yet, but you don't want to go 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:47.480 in there shorthanded with that group. 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:52.440 Well, with Geyton, I've been extremely impressed knowing that he 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:56.960 was sick for multiple days and then for him to 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.599 perform the way that he did at the game, I 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:03.080 mean that is very very promising and I'm super happy 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.680 to see that the hard work that he's been putting 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:09.720 in all the hours is translating and it's being shown 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:11.840 on the field. I mean, the guy during the off 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:15.400 season and even heading here into training camp, you ask him, Hey, 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:16.880 what do you like doing? 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.920 What's your hobby? What do you do? Football? Football? Football? 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:24.080 Oh, my time off football, learn more football. So everything 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.839 that has come out of his mouth is all about football. 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:30.960 So the guy speaking of all in he is all in, 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:33.040 so he's. 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:36.159 Putting in the work and anyways, super super exciting to 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:40.839 see that such a young guy switching positions like that. 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.400 He's coming in and it doesn't look like he's gonna 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:45.320 miss a beat. 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.360 Yeah, it's so interesting. You look at this team and 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.240 what they've done. Really you could probably go back fifteen 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:54.320 years or so, and their ability to be able to 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.000 get good offensive linemen. It's like when they when they 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.920 go for those first round offensive linemen, it's very. 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:01.800 Rare they miss like they they have. 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.480 They have been able to find some really good success there, 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.640 and you look at other franchises less they like the Giants, 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:09.880 tant so. Yeah, they've spent these first round picks and 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.960 just haven't had the success. Like you, It's not an 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.520 easy thing necessarily to draft, but the Cowboys have been 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.200 really really good at it, at least from what we're 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:17.760 seeing so far. 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:18.279 From Guyton. 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.520 Yeah, I think that you go back to even you 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:22.719 mentioned go back all the way to Tyron Smith. 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:23.000 Yeah. 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.760 I think it starts there and then it's the Tyron Smith. 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.360 It's the Zach Martins, it's the Travis Fredericks, It's. 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.120 And Travis Frederick. A lot of people didn't think that 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:30.840 was no bit. 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:32.919 That was There was a lot of people that you know, 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.080 when they when they when they dumped out of their 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:37.279 spot to go all the way to the bottom of 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.880 the board in the draft Travis Frederick and pick up 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.840 an extra third round pick. That was a brilliant move. 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:44.520 And you're absolutely right. There's a lot of us in 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.000 me included that we're like, whoa, you know, did you 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.680 get the value for the pick, because there there have 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:51.000 been another player you were taken. 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:53.440 Why did you trade back? A lot of questions there. 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.840 But to your point, they've done a great job of 0:06:55.839 --> 0:07:00.960 evaluating offensive linemen and especially those first offensive lineman. 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.000 Yeah, going back to Guiden, I think for me, I 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.359 expected him to look pretty good in pass protection against 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:06.120 the Rams, and he did. 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:07.920 He looked great. He didn't allow any pressures. 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:11.400 For me, I've been expecting the inexperience to show up 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.120 in the run game, and for what he did in 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:14.960 the run game on Sunday, I felt great about it. 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.080 You know, he was able to get get after guys 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:19.400 at the point of attack he had to push, He 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.760 was able to create running lanes off the left side. Now, granted, 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:23.720 the running game itself was not great. I'm sure that's 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:27.000 something we'll dive into. That's becoming a more glaring problem. 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:30.320 I think his training powers on. But looking from Tyler 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:32.840 Guiden's perspective specifically, I think he did. 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:33.760 Just fine in the run game. 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.120 Now, granted it's a very small sample size, but a 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:37.600 really good start for him on the field. 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:39.960 All right, let's flip and let's talk about it. I'm 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.280 gonna do some player evaluations as we go throughout the show. 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.000 Really in the second segment, we're going to dedicate it 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.840 to throwing out some names and getting you guys opinions. 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:48.920 But I think we got to start first with the 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.280 name that I think everybody wants to hear about, which 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.800 is Trey Lance. He gets his debut for the Cowboys, 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.640 plays a ton in this game. What were your what 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.600 is your evaluation of him after watching that game? 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.520 What do you think? I think he is reletive? What 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.800 you thought going into the game versus how he played? 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.240 Yeah, my evaluation is he didn't make many mistakes, but 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.720 he didn't he didn't do much to impress either. I mean, 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:10.440 when you throw the ball forty one times and you 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:12.000 only end up with one hundred and eighty eight yards. 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.320 I believe that's about four point seven yards per attempt. 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.160 It kind of shows you what he's doing. And even 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:20.280 when he escaped the pocket, he relied on his throwing side. 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:23.080 He relied on that right side. And so whenever you 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.000 kind of factor in the fact that he's not pushing 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.480 the ball more than fifteen yards downfield, and when he is, 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.560 he had I think he was about one for five 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.040 he had that completion two or excuse me, that was 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.360 Cooper Rush that had the completion of Jalen Brooks. So 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.199 when you take out fifteen plus yards down the field, 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:40.160 and then you also factor in that he's been rolling 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.960 to the right and very when he's one read, he's sticking. 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:43.680 To the right side of the field. 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:45.840 He's taken away seventy percent of the field and so 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.559 he's not seeing everything completely. He missed a couple of 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:50.480 guys that were wide open down the field. There was 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.000 one in the fourth quarter to Princeton Fan. I mean 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:54.840 Fan could have walked in, he could have crawled into 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.440 the end zone and Lance just didn't see him. Obviously, 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:59.920 the fourth down throw to Jalen Cropper, you know, play call. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.199 How much is that factor in? But nevertheless, he's got 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:03.720 to make that throw. He's got to give Cropper a 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.960 chance at least. I think, all in all, I would 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.360 give his performance somewhere in a seed to C minus 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.600 range as far as the grade goes. But he didn't 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.120 make any mistakes. And I think if you're Trey Lance, 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:17.200 you can look at it from two different perspectives. One, Okay, 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.360 maybe are you a little gun shy to maybe make 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.960 any big chances because you don't want to mess up 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.079 in this big opportunity that you have. But also, on 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.120 the same token, let's say you go and throw an 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.360 interception on the first drive against the Raiders. Maybe it 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:30.000 kind of calms your nerves and say, okay, I got 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.360 that mistake out the way, let's unleash it a little bit. 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:34.439 I really do believe the best thing that can happen 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:36.280 for Trey Lance in the first half next week is 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.160 to throw a bad interception just so he could start 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.320 forcing some things a little bit more and trusting his 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.760 arm a little bit better. I truly do think that's 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.360 when he'll start to grow comfortable in the system and 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:46.079 in this offense. 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.000 Well, the thing for me and I had a lot 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:49.959 of hopes in him. 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.520 I remember when we first started doing the show that 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:54.760 we first got out here at training camp, I mentioned 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:56.440 him as one of the guys that stood out to 0:09:56.480 --> 0:10:00.880 me based on the way he carried himself the field. 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:04.640 And you just have that leader vibe and command. 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:08.960 But then it wasn't and it hasn't been translating onto 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:14.480 play the playing and nothing at practice, because I would 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:16.440 say I would give him the benefit of the dow 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:20.679 after this game. Had I seen anything that would make 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.720 me hold on to the hope that he can be 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.920 more and right now, so far he hasn't. And the fans, 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.080 I know, I see a lot of questions like, hey, 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.960 can he replace Trey Lance? Can he replace Dak? I mean, 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:39.960 can Trey replace Dak? I think that answer that answer 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.160 your question. We only have two more preseason games. I 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:46.680 would assume he takes on most of the playing time there. 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.400 Cooper Rush, what he showed in a little bit and 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.720 what he's shown at training camp is that he's still 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.400 Cooper Rush. He's the Cooper Rush that we've seen and 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:59.360 he's a very reliable backup quarterback. So right now, Trey 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.400 he's in a spot last year of his contract here 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:06.320 with the Cowboys, and he's going to have to really 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.320 really step it up, because even though you say, Nick, 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.439 that he didn't make a lot of mistakes, and I agree, 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:17.079 to me, what he didn't do equals us mistakes. 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:17.120 A little bit. 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:21.800 Is it's almost equivalent to me what he didn't what 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:23.360 he wasn't able to do. And a lot of the 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:26.840 times I like that he shows that he's a mobile 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.560 quarterback and he's not afraid to run. But at the 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:31.960 same time, I want to see you throwing the ball. 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:33.720 I don't want to see you running. I need to 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:36.480 see my running backs running, not you At the moment, 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.760 I want to see what you can do as a quarterback. 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:42.640 Yeah, I think we and Nick gave you a really 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:46.520 good idea of the things I think that he missed, 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.320 and I think that we would have a different view 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:54.640 of Trey Lance if he completed three passes that we 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:55.480 were talking about. 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:58.120 It was so clear. 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.040 And I don't know if Mike McCarthy did this on purpose, 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.040 but the past that they set it up, the one 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.319 de fant to me seem like, Okay, I'm gonna take 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.199 a shot here, we're close. 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.560 To the red zone. I'm gonna run this wheel. 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:13.760 I'm gonna take the back and put him in the 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.840 flat and I'm gonna run the route inside and see 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.719 if I could draw this safety. They got everything they 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:21.880 wanted out of the play, so it was almost like 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:25.800 McCarthy said okay, and McCarthy had here's Zimmer not using 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.240 any call sheet and Mike looking like he had a 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:29.240 menu at a Denny's. 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:29.760 You know. 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.240 I mean, it was like every play call you can 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.800 imagine on that sheet. And I think Mike might have 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.079 set that up and maybe Trey Lance didn't help him. 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:41.520 My biggest issue with Trey Lance is I don't think 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.640 he sees the field particularly well. And I say that 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:48.160 and I don't know if that's something that you can correct. 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:51.360 You know, when you see him out here practice, there 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:52.240 are throws. 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.560 That he makes. It's like he didn't see that guy. 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:56.200 He didn't see that defender. 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.640 He didn't see there were, like I say, there were 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:00.680 three plays in that game that he might if he 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:03.760 makes three to three throws seem er out the cropper 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.280 swing pass to fan you know he makes it, or 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:11.000 the touchdown on fourth down, we might be talking about 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:12.560 Trey Lance in a different light today. 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:14.840 And I think that's the thing. 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:17.800 I'm going to see this thing through because I do 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:22.160 see the athletic ability. He'll make this receivers work a 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.920 little bit for this football. He's not the most accurate 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:28.680 guy right now throwing the ball. But what I need 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:32.240 for him to get better at, and hopefully he can. 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.560 Is seeing the field. Because they did give up some 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:37.120 opportunities in that game. 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.959 We could be thinking a lot different in talking about him, 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.800 a lot differently. If this all of a sudden is 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:48.800 a cowboy victory, if it's you know, twenty twenty, you know, 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:51.600 eight to whatever, you know, whenever the ram you know, 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.200 I think there were some plays that were left on 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.559 this field, and if he continues to lead those plays 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:02.000 on the field, then he can't be your guy. But 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.680 you know, but there's some there's some promise there. But 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.640 it's just like you say, it's the word consistency, and 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:09.880 we talk about training camp. It's you can say the 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.400 word consistency for a lot of different players on this 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:13.040 practice field. 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.560 But the thing with him is like what he has 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:19.120 issues with which you're talking about seeing the field, that 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.400 takes time, Like I don't see it's changing in two 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:25.360 weeks less of what's left of the preseason. So that's 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.640 the issue for me, it's like what he needs to 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.440 learn it comes with experience and time. 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:34.040 So oh no, you don't time, bro, though you're you're. 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.480 You're really you're running out of time. You're running out 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:38.680 of time. If you want to make the evaluation, can 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.080 he be your guy? And you might even make the 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.160 evaluation without the time. You might Now depending on what 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.720 happens with Dak, that's a whole nother story. You know, 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.160 there's people out there to say that maybe, hey, no, 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.520 they don't have a quarterback here. They're going to have 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:55.240 to address that. So to me, I can understand they 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.640 worked a year with him, but even though it was 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.480 just you know, we never saw it. Right now we're 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.720 seeing it. We're seeing a but there's some things that 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.480 he clearly has got to get better at. And it's 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:09.800 a lot with these young quarterbacks. If they don't see 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.400 the field particularly well, it's hard to play at a 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:16.280 high level because you're constantly fighting Okay, why did you 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:16.680 do that? 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:16.880 Well? 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:19.680 Why oh, you didn't see that defender. You know that 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:21.640 the Rams are probably looking they won that game the 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.120 other day, but they're looking at Stets and Bennet like, 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:25.800 what the hell were you looking at? 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:26.600 Man? 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.000 Wins though, he finds a way to win. 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.000 What No, No, you know it's a little bit different. 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.800 You won the game, he had a nice drive, he 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.200 made a nice throw and four down to win that game. 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:41.080 But up until that point, you're going, what the hell 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.480 this guy was a National championship quarterback. 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:45.760 Yeah, there's an SEC fan out there going like, yeah, 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:47.360 we've seen that a few times, at least five or 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:49.600 six times actly, So really quick with Trey Lance, I 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.200 think from a fan perspective, I think fans are like 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.600 seeing him in the preseason and saying, can he be 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.240 QB one? Can he be this top option if if 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.320 they don't resign Deck. I don't think that should be 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.920 the mentality should be can he be QB two? Yeah, 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.920 because I believe that they re signed Dak. I still 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.120 feel that that's about an eighty percent chance of happening 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.280 at some point, whether that be before the season or 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.920 in free agency next year. You match Trey Lance's deal 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.480 to DAX deal from a time perspective, and you let 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.280 Trey be that QB two to DAK. Because Cooper Rush 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:19.920 is also going into the final year of his deal. 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.640 He's a thirty year old backup quarterback. A, he probably 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.120 wants a bigger opportunity for himself, and then B, you 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:27.600 probably want a younger guy to back up Dak Prescott 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.040 because if you don't want injuries to start mounting. And 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.480 so I think that the mentality should be, if everything 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.280 goes right with Trey Lance and he can prove that 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.360 he can be a QB two, then let him be 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.360 that QB two and twenty twenty five and beyond, and 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.080 go draft a guy in the later rounds next year 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:43.080 and work that young guy in the development program. 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Slash O 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:48.880 led Evil Welcome back. 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:51.879 It is the second segment of The Break with lifem Oxnark, California. 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:54.800 This segment brought to you by Blockchain dot Com ing. 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:55.919 All right, here we go. 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.560 Let's do some player evaluations. I want to start first 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.720 with the defensive front. Talk about the defensive tackle position. 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:06.760 Mazzi Smith, Justin Rogers, Carl Davis, Albert Huggins. What do 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:08.480 you guys see from these players? And I guess let's 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:10.720 start first with Mazzi. Obviously he's the one everybody wants 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:12.640 to know, but probably played the least of these guys. 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:15.560 What did you see from the defensive tackle position, particularly Mazzi. 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:16.359 Let's start with Mazzi. 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:18.520 I ran point on Tree. You can run point on 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:19.160 Mazzi if you want. 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:21.520 I think the thing with Mazzi is when you watch 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:24.639 Mozzie Smith play and you don't see his numbers from 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:26.600 the sideline copy, you don't see a five and an 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:29.160 eight means he's playing square. And I think there were 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:31.880 several snaps where you watch Mozzie play square, they get 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:35.159 on him about his hands. Coach Sagina does, It's always 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:37.800 about inside Mazzie. We talk about that quite a bit. 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:41.800 It's about extension, it's about balance with his feet, it's 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:45.400 about dis gaging with the blocks Mazzi. Smith did all 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:47.919 the things they're asking him to do. Technique wise. He 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.439 didn't get washed out of plays, he didn't get turned, 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:53.640 he didn't get just bullied in this game. He did 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:56.720 a really good job of dealing with that. The extension 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.680 I thought was really good. The screenplay we all saw 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:02.879 where he was able to you know, with Bolander the center, 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.480 he able to extend, He finds the ball, he gets rid, 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:08.080 and now he moves into space and then he makes 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:10.200 the tackle. Those are the kinds of things you expect 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:12.919 to see from Mazzie Smith. That's the kind of player 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:15.640 that we use the word capable. That is a capable 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:17.840 football player. That is a player you can win with 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:23.000 playing at that level. Next play, Mazzie Smith decides he 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.080 wants to take a playoff and doesn't want to rush 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:30.200 and doesn't want to try and play technique consistency. 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:30.399 With Mazzie Smith. 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:34.080 You can't keep doing one or two good things and 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:36.600 then decide to take plays off. If you have to 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:39.399 play six plays in a series, I need you to 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:42.240 play hard all six plays. You know, they'll find ways 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:45.800 to get you out of the game. But as far 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:49.119 as overall what you're seeing from him, that was a 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:51.400 step in the right direction that game for him. 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:53.639 They could coach off that they can see. 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:56.439 See, Mazzie, see what happens when you do what we 0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:59.000 ask you to do when you're not a one legged 0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:02.160 football player. You get your hands inside, when you find 0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:04.679 the football, when you show effort, when you go and 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.480 make plays. We can win with that kind of player 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:11.880 right there. But then the very next play he goes 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:16.560 back into just okay, made a play. No, we're trying 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:18.560 to get off the field, trying to get off the 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:20.880 field here, You've got it one more time. You got 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:22.439 to find a way to take that center or that 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:24.720 guard and drive him back in the in the pocket 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:28.359 and affect the play. And so I'm gonna say it 0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:31.520 was positive from the aspect of what we've we've seen 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:33.359 because it's been really up and down. I thought there 0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:36.040 were more good plays than bad plays with Manzi Smith 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:36.560 the other day. 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:38.920 Yeah, I agree, And when Brian says getting square, I 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:41.680 refer to it as getting wide and just getting getting 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:42.960 in the way of running lanes. And I thought he 0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:45.280 did a good job of it, and in the playing 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:46.960 time that he did get on Sunday, you mentioned that 0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:48.600 screenplay and that was that was the one that really 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:52.280 stood out to me too, because that's instincts. And yes, 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:55.240 he was going against Boatlimmer. He should be having the 0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:57.280 upper hand against a guy like Botlimmer who was just 0:22:57.359 --> 0:22:59.639 drafted a rookie. Still, it was his first taste of 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:02.200 NFL action. You know, you want to see Mozzie Smith 0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:04.320 doing that against ones out here, maybe in the joint 0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:07.520 practice again on Wednesday. But it's a good confidence stacker 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:09.879 for him, and I think if this team does not 0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:12.639 want to address putting another one tech on the field 0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:16.359 after after training camp, then you know, Mazzie Smith really 0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:19.080 needs to be stacking confidence out here in these preseason games. 0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:20.600 For sure, I. 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:24.560 Agree on the lack of consistency, but one of the 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:26.720 things that I was paying attention to and wanted to 0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:29.160 see is, Okay, how is he going to perform overall 0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:35.280 after going through a couple of weeks of mental in 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:39.040 a way I cannot pronounce this coach's name, help me 0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:46.159 cannot but again, and Briant has talked about it on 0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:49.639 the show. I mean, you you stand by where they are, 0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:53.119 you just hear the language and all that, and you're like, 0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:56.080 oh my, okay. If that was me, I'm like, all right, guys, 0:23:56.080 --> 0:24:01.359 I'm out piece deuce. But no, it was the mental 0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:04.840 aspect for me, and I thought he handled it pretty well. 0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:09.000 Where you're me, I'm looking, is he gonna tear him down? 0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:12.920 Or is he gonna step up and rise through it? 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:17.199 And I think it's headed towards the right direction in 0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:17.560 that way. 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:19.919 When you look at those other defensive tackles, it seemed 0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:21.760 like and this might have just been like you know, 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:23.439 sometimes you're in a game, you're watching a game and 0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:25.720 it kind of just feels you feel certain things. Yeah, 0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:28.960 in the second part of the first quarter and into 0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:30.960 the second quarter, it seemed like they were getting run 0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:33.359 on like it consistently. It seemed like they were just 0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:36.359 getting kind of run straight up the white bottoms. Wasn't 0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:37.080 more of the linebackers. 0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:41.680 What happens is they Leafel needs to play more snaps 0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:45.360 and he needs just for his own sake. But you 0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:48.760 had when you look at at the Cowboys and really 0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:52.880 what and how things were. I there were times where, 0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:55.760 like I say, where Davis was really really square and 0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:58.480 you see the back have to make a decision on 0:24:58.520 --> 0:24:59.320 which way to go. 0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:01.240 And then and all of a sudden, then you're in it. 0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:04.080 You're in that mode where you're looking at it and 0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:06.560 you're going, wait a minute, where are the linebackers here? 0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:10.000 You know where where's uh, you know, where's Willie Harvey? 0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:12.359 You know, all of a sudden, it's leaf Al and 0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:16.200 Harvey are like, what are you looking at? 0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:18.960 You know, It's like it's it's it's like they were. 0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:21.520 And I'm not gonna say the word guessing, but I'm 0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:25.320 gonna say the word guessing because we've seen these guys 0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:29.960 fit finish, fit, finish, and it was like, okay, ball 0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:32.439 coming and now all of a sudden, you're reading scheme, 0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:35.520 you're seeing a poller, you're seeing a down block, and 0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:38.280 now you're flying this way and it just creates a 0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:39.359 natural gap. 0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:43.640 So linebackers missed some fits, and I. 0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:46.359 Felt like the defensive tackles for the most part, did 0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:51.080 their jobs when the squareness. Davis Rogers, I thought, played 0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:52.800 really well in this game where you know when you 0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:57.280 go back and watch him play, but these linebackers they 0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:00.239 needed it, not so much like the first guy you 0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:04.040 saw with overshown and Clark overshowns a little bit of 0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.560 a slippery guy in between. You know, he beats the 0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:09.760 block inside down run defense, then you see all of 0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:13.119 a sudden balls the outside. He's there again. Clark's taken 0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:16.120 on blocks. He saw it better up front. When you 0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:20.960 see square linemen and linebackers filling, you see better run there. 0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:24.440 There was a time where Carl Davis, they played great 0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:27.960 on the run defense. Davis takes the guard back in 0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:31.560 the backfield. You stop the tape there, and now the 0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:35.040 back is having to decide where do I go. He 0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:39.600 goes to his right. Now you got downhill linebacker safety. 0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:42.840 Now coming in the hole, everybody's there, everybody's playing it 0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:47.400 the right way. That's run defense. But sometimes with run defense, 0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:52.280 it's not all about the defensive linemen. Those linebackers can't guess. 0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:54.720 And I do say this about lea foul and I'm 0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:55.959 not this is not a criticism. 0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:59.720 He needs to play more. But they they were really him. 0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:02.920 They were really really anxious with him and Harvey were 0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:05.879 really super anxious the way they were playing in that 0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:06.640 game the other day. 0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:08.359 Yeah, there's a couple of clips of Harvey that have 0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:09.800 kind of made their way on Twitter of him just 0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:11.920 guessing the wrong running lanes. And it was tough because 0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:13.560 I felt like he was having a strong camp. But 0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:15.960 as far as a defensive perspective, he didn't look great 0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:19.399 in that game. But the linebacker position doesn't necessarily concern me. 0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:22.080 But there were some running lane discipline things that I 0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:23.600 think you can look at and you could point to 0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:26.600 as possible film corrections going into week two. But you 0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:29.040 mentioned the defensive tackles. The one name he didn't mention 0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:32.280 is Albert Huggins, one of the newest atliss Yeah. I 0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:34.920 think he got caught on his back a couple of times. 0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:36.920 You talk about the sidelines tape. You saw his number 0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.359 a couple of times too. I think he could have 0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:41.320 had a better preseason debut. But as far as the 0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:45.040 other guy's talking about Rogers, talking about Mazi Carl Davis, 0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:46.800 I liked what I saw from those guys, and I 0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:49.840 think more so whenever you look at the problems that 0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.639 stemmed up front in that game, was lack of pressure 0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:55.080 generated from the ends. I mean they were not getting 0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:58.280 home at all, and while Stetson Bennett didn't make a 0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:00.760 lot of mistakes, I don't think they were necessarily caused 0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:02.520 by the pressure. I think it was more so caused 0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:03.879 by the disguise coverage. 0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:05.320 Can I say this so real quick? 0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:08.760 When you start talking about defensive tackles and Nick, I 0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:11.320 don't know if you thought or you guys maybe saw yourselves. 0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:16.680 I kind of felt like the Hoko and Golston looked. 0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:18.360 Better playing his edges. 0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:21.600 Then they did his defensive tackles, and we've seen him 0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:24.080 out here a bunch and it's been like someone's like, 0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:26.800 what's what's the Hoko doing. I'm like, kind of a struggle, 0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:29.840 kind of struggled today kind of, but he looked like 0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:33.919 a different player playing in space with wide the ability 0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.560 to play the wide rush. And yeah, they didn't get 0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:39.800 home and they don't They really didn't have anybody doing that. 0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:43.040 But it looked like the Golston and him both were 0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.320 were more comfortable playing on the edge. And that's maybe 0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:48.680 why you go and get Huggins that maybe he could 0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:50.960 come in and be a backup three. 0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:55.000 Or they take you know, they take Kneelin. 0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:57.200 And when they go to Nickel, they move him inside 0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:01.520 and that way you have Parsons, kneelan Osa and then 0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:04.320 Tank and that's gonna be your pass rush and hopefully 0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:08.560 that's gonna bode better for you getting getting pressures. 0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:10.840 Yeah, to clarify, I don't have any concerns about the 0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:12.840 pass rush unit from this team because again we didn't 0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:14.640 see the one. We didn't get it done yesterday the 0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:16.000 other day though, Yeah, but they did not get it 0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:18.680 done when it comes to rotational bodies, and that's obviously 0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:21.560 a highlight. With Sam Williams going down with his ACL injury, 0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:23.640 who's gonna be those first guys to rotate in and 0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:25.800 right now, I don't think Darrell Johnson showed anything. 0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:26.520 I don't think. 0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:30.800 Al Kanad Muhammad showed anything. Shaka TONI. I didn't see 0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:33.200 a lot from those guys, but you see Golston getting 0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:35.120 off the edge and you see that power and you're like, Okay, 0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:37.240 that looks a lot more natural than coming in at 0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:39.640 three tex So. I think there may be needs to 0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:43.720 be some readjusting a philosophy with a couple of guys, 0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:45.720 I think on the defensive line, because I think you're 0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.120 you're not maximizing guys like Golstener. Forojoko, you look at 0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.200 Fojoco and what he did well at San Jose State. 0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:52.400 Why he was able to get to the quarterback double 0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:55.000 digit times is his senior season is because he was 0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:57.360 put in space, whether that was inside or out, he 0:29:57.400 --> 0:29:59.400 had more space to operate. And I think if you 0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:02.840 marry that background with a little bit more size, a 0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.000 little bit more experience that he has, I think you 0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:06.920 can maximize what he brings to the pass rush. 0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:11.160 Yeah. I think to me, if they're looking at positions, 0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:14.280 if you're just if you're pro scouts and you're kind 0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:16.720 of thinking about things, I know everybody's looking at running back. 0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:21.040 I think everybody's looking at defensive tackle, and I think 0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.160 their need to kind of think about looking at edge too. 0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:25.480 I know they brought in Mohammad and Tony and guys 0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:28.400 like that that might you might have to you might 0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:31.760 have to go with an upgrade there to make up 0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:34.120 for the Fouler and the Armstrong and those. 0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:34.640 Types of guys. 0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.560 I think that's the biggest key is without Foulo, without Armstrong, 0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:40.160 without Williams, those are three guys that you can say 0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.120 what you want about what they were kind of you 0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:44.760 could you could question how much they brought you in 0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:47.440 the run defense, the pass defense. There was no question 0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:50.480 you're bringing those guys in as rotational guys. They were 0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:52.560 getting after the quarterback. And that's the piece where I 0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:54.920 think the Cowboys may miss a little bit this odd 0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:56.760 I mean this season if they don't figure out some 0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.160 kind of way to manufacture that a little better. And 0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:01.680 maybe that's with blitzing linebackers those kind of things. I 0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:03.280 think there's some other things they can do, but that's 0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:04.760 gonna be a bit of a challenge for them at 0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:07.240 the edge without those top two guys, or with those 0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:09.200 top two guys having to rotate in and out right. 0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:13.160 Well, I trust in Mike Zimmer. In Mike Zimmer, I 0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:18.640 trust and I trust that after watching film. 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They got four interceptions in this game, you 0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:52.080 could probably say five. The holding call took back one 0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:53.719 of them. Brian, you mentioned maybe a little bit of 0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:57.520 a Do you think that that was a lot because 0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:00.880 of or do you put that more on Mike Zimmer's 0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:04.319 defense and the disguise and obviously a young quarterback having 0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:06.680 to deal with that, or do you think these defensive 0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:10.120 backs really were just playing an outstanding game to be 0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.279 able to because we talked about the pass rush wasn't necessarily. 0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:14.280 Like a killer pass rush. 0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:16.359 Do you think it was just the secondary guys really 0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:17.520 playing outstanding football. 0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:17.759 Yeah. 0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:19.400 I think it's a combination of a few things. I 0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:21.319 think when you look at the four interceptions and you 0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:23.880 look at Okay, let's look at each one in a vacuum. 0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:26.040 How much was a product of the scheme, how much 0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:27.320 was a product of a guy just being in the 0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:29.840 right place. How much of it was a product of 0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:32.040 sets and Bennett just not seeing somebody and making a 0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:32.640 poor decision. 0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:35.000 So I'll go one by one here. Marquise Bell. 0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:37.440 The first interception, he was in the right place, but 0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:38.920 he also had to make a really good play, and 0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:40.480 I think that was a hell of a play by 0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:42.080 Bell to be able to get up there and get that. 0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:46.960 The second interception was to Eric Scott, I believe, and 0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:48.680 that was a product of him just being in the 0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:50.879 right place again, And it was kind of funny because 0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:52.680 he was getting cooked on that drive feed probably had 0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:54.279 two or three plays that he probably would have won 0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:56.120 it back. Then he got it back with the interception 0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:57.840 there in the red zone, and I think that was 0:35:57.880 --> 0:35:59.759 a scheme thing. I think that was Scott just being 0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:02.319 in the right spot. Then you look at interception number 0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.840 three Julius Wood, and I have to give all credit 0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:05.359 to Wood there. 0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:07.120 I mean, he was playing in his zone. He was 0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:08.080 doing what he was supposed to do. 0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:10.120 Is that single high safety which by the way, we 0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:12.040 saw a lot of single high safety looks, which I. 0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:14.680 Was at that one was at too deep. That wasn't 0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:17.480 too deep because they caught the crosser. That's right, that's right, 0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:19.360 and he stepped right in front of the crosser. He 0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:20.759 made a hell of a play. He was able to 0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:22.880 just get to the ball before the receiver did. Stetson 0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:24.520 put it a little bit out in front. But I 0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:26.080 think overall, I think it was a really good play 0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:28.880 from Wood. And then the fourth interception, Brock Mogens and 0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:30.480 stets and Benches didn't see him. He threw it right 0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:33.600 to Brock's hands, So I think I think all in all, 0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:37.640 the defensive system is definitely confusing quarterbacks off of the 0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:40.120 one game that we have against a third string quarterback. 0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:44.680 But I also think there's some there's some application, especially 0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:46.799 by these rookies in these second year guys, to be 0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:48.000 able to take to the field and just be in 0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:49.560 the right spots and go grab these balls. 0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:51.560 Yeah, I give Al Harris a lot of credit here 0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:54.360 these guys. I mean, you Al Harris on the sidelines 0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:57.200 when something happens to his guys. He is a very 0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:59.960 emotional you know coach on that you know, But they 0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:01.799 they did a really nice job in this game. 0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:03.840 I thought, initially, first. 0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:06.520 The young guys, when you talked about Scott and then Carson, 0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:11.280 I thought they both played really timid the first first 0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:13.680 series or two of the game, and then all of 0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:16.839 a sudden, Carson, he drove on a ball. 0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:19.440 That went It was a receiver, quick passed out to 0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:19.920 the flat. 0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:22.000 He drives on the ball, makes it tackle looks like 0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:24.359 he made on the field one over here when they 0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:28.240 worked against the Rams last time. And from that point 0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:32.840 on he became more aggressive. He became he was driving 0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:36.280 on routes. Before the first couple of passes that he faced, 0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:38.160 it was kind of like he was hanging back, hanging 0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:41.279 back and then drive. But we've seen him play downhill 0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:44.880 quick and I felt like after he made that tackle, 0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:48.640 it kind of got him into that mode of Okay, 0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:51.080 I'm not gonna let these guys. He every other pass 0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:53.799 after that was contested for him. Yeah, they had some 0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:55.360 receptions on him, but. 0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:58.080 He went from being a guy that looked. 0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:00.759 Kind of scared. And I shouldn't used the words scared 0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:02.320 because he's not scared. He's a tough player. 0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:06.959 But he played with more purpose after that first After 0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:07.520 that he made that. 0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:10.400 Yeah it did, and I you know, I think the 0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:13.319 thing with a lot of these guys. The one thing 0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:16.400 we've talked about with Zimmer is he's going to put guys. 0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:18.520 Him and Alherris are going to put guys in positions 0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.880 to make plays for them to get four interceptions. I 0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:24.319 think that's a little bit on Stetson Bennett, but I 0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:27.719 think it's also on the Cowboys for being woods, those 0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:30.640 guys driving on balls and making sure that you know, hey, 0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.120 I'm supposed to play around the hash. All of a sudden, 0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:36.440 I hear cross cross, cross cross cross. When you hear cross, 0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:38.440 now your eyes go inside and here you are, Boem. 0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:40.040 You see the crosser, you see the ball, and now 0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:42.840 you drive and make the play. That's that is. That 0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:47.520 is practice, that is skill, that is scheme, and those 0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:49.480 are all things and that's why you get the stops 0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:51.520 that you do of those interceptions. 0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:56.000 I think he's teaching things with intent, and the players 0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:59.520 have really bought into what he's selling. And this is 0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:03.319 very differ from the time where mag Nolan was out 0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:04.759 here leading. 0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:07.200 And it was. 0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:11.719 But the point is is with that during that time, 0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:14.200 they were trying to do all these different things but 0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:16.520 it was just confusing, and you talk to the players 0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.760 and then they were saying it, so there was talks 0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:22.440 a lot about that that it was just very confusing, 0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:24.120 and no one knew what the heck was going on. 0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:26.960 No one was on the same page. But with Zimmer, 0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:29.719 you see the command that he's taking. You talk to 0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:32.400 the players and listen to what they're saying, and they 0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:35.799 they speak so highly of him. And when you have 0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:38.120 a crew of guys, a group of guys that are 0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:41.960 just completely sold on what he's doing and all into 0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:44.880 the new scheme and what they're doing and seeing that 0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:47.800 it is effective. Because this is not just all we 0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:49.719 saw it in the game against the Rams. We've been 0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:52.920 seeing here at practice. We've been seeing how these guys 0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:57.600 has created better opportunities for players to be positioned in 0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:01.360 a way that they can excel their position and what 0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:04.200 they're trying to do. So it's just it's all very 0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:07.840 very exciting. And Simmer, you talked about him not having 0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:09.279 the sheet, I mean, he's a. 0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:12.560 Baller like he's he's just out there calling place. 0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:15.920 It's just it's very fun and very exciting, and I 0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:19.279 think that the guys are just really shining in this 0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:21.560 scheme and Marquise Marquise Bell. 0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:26.440 God, that guy, that guy, it's amazing. 0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:30.799 Uh. The fact that we saw him last year, you know, 0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:35.080 doing pretty well a linebacker helping there. Now he's transitioned 0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:38.399 back to safety and what he's I mean, he's back 0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:41.839 in his natural spot and he's really really shining and 0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:44.360 he's gonna be a guy that's gonna be very effective 0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:44.840 this season. 0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:46.719 While you're at it, through Rob Ryan in there for 0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:51.360 the confusion as sometimes you have twelve on the field, 0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:55.640 sometimes you have nine. Sometimes you're playing man, sometimes you're 0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:56.400 playing zone. 0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:58.240 We don't know if I could. 0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:05.680 Sound he is phenomenal this day, Maybe not so good 0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:06.840 on scheming him up. 0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:07.359 How about that? 0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:09.760 Can we take a look at the cornerback picture, just 0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:12.000 just for a moment, because you look at that trade 0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:15.120 last week right for Naseean Wright, uh to Minnesota. 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:17.520 In exchange they get Andrew Booth and. 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:21.160 You look at what how that helps Dallas From a 0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:23.520 personnel perspective. You look at Andrew Booth, I see him 0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:25.279 more as an inside guy. Do you feel the same way, Bro? 0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:27.800 I've seen him when we play outside, So you'll. 0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:29.920 Have more as an inside guy at least in this scheme, 0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:32.160 and if that's the case, then a guy like Eric 0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:33.200 Scott really needs. 0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:33.760 To have a good camp. 0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:34.120 Yeah. 0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:37.040 That starts to worry me about his spot because I 0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:39.640 think from their perspective, they see Kaylen Carson as a 0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:41.560 guy that they can trust on the boundaries, Like, Okay, 0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:44.680 he's gonna be our first rotational guy. We have Naseean Wright, 0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:46.680 let's try to flip him for a guy that maybe 0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:48.360 fits a little bit better with what we're trying to 0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:48.799 work with. 0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:50.280 And then you look at Andrew Booth. 0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:52.360 I feel like he has that physicality, he has that 0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:54.799 quick twitch to be able to work inside. He did 0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:56.640 a little bit of it at Clemson, so I think 0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:58.600 he's he's a I think he's a guy that can 0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:00.120 factor in on the inside in case there was an 0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:01.640 injury to happen there. And if that's the case, like 0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:03.480 I said, I think Eric Scott's in trouble. 0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:05.080 I hope you're right because I haven't seen him. I 0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:06.879 mean I watched that Clemson tabe. He was a second 0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:09.080 round pick out of Clemson, so he's a high pick. 0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:12.080 But I always saw this. They played a ton of zone. 0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:14.960 You know, they really didn't challenge him all that much 0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:17.080 and Clemson, but that will. 0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:19.319 Be interesting to see how he how will he tackle us? 0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:21.520 Yeah, really good dude. By the way, met him in 0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:23.040 the locker room after the game, and he's excited to 0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:24.600 be here. So that's a that's a fun one. 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:25.239 Good for him. 0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.719 You mentioned Eric Scott, So what was your evaluation of 0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.319 Eric Scott in this game, knowing that this is a 0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:31.520 pivotal time for him. 0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:33.000 Yeah, I didn't love his performance. 0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:35.040 You take away that interception and I think he probably 0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:37.560 wants that entire game back. He had a couple of 0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:40.360 routes where he just he bit on on early breaks. 0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:43.000 He had the bad fifteen yard penalty pushing a guy 0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:45.399 out of bounds. It was It was a rough day 0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:47.480 for Eric Scott, and I think the interception definitely made 0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:50.040 up for a couple of his mistakes because he was 0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:52.600 able to get him back in the red zone. But overall, 0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:55.200 he needs to have a really solid last two weeks 0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:58.080 here at camping in the preseason. I just don't see 0:42:58.080 --> 0:42:59.520 how he gets on the field right now. He doesn't 0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:01.360 have the speed to be able to keep up with guys. 0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.160 The coverage ability hasn't quite matched. And what I love 0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:06.000 from him from at Southern miss too was his run 0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:07.600 game instincts, and we haven't seen any. 0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:10.440 Of that either, So I think Eric Scott needs to 0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:11.680 uptake it a little bit for sure. 0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:12.279 Yeah. 0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:14.719 So the consistency part of it too, is that. 0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:16.400 Work again again. 0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:19.759 Yeah, you see, you've seen. 0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:24.200 Plays that he's made, and but it's just not not enough. 0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:26.560 And like you said, it's gonna I mean, when you're 0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:29.440 surrounded by these other guys what they're doing, you're gonna 0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:33.640 slowly start to fall into the shadows where people are 0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:36.560 not gonna notice you that much. I remember you. So 0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:38.839 he needs to step it up, for sure. But he's 0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:41.360 had those little moments of shining. 0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:45.320 Don't be a flash player. Nobody likes a flash player. 0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:48.440 Hard to evaluate a flash player, especially at corner a 0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:50.960 flash and then you don't see it and you see 0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:54.200 something bad happen and maybe another flash. Flash players are 0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:56.440 really hard. Eric Scott tends to be a little bit 0:43:56.440 --> 0:43:57.400 of a flash player. 0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.200 Yeah, and it's I think it's even highlighted by the 0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:02.600 fact of what you've seen from Kaylen Carson that that 0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:05.480 one Eric Scott to come on, gotta get it going, 0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:07.719 because this young guy, he's coming in here as a 0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:09.719 rookie and he's making he's turned some heads, and he's 0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:11.719 doing it consistently. That goes back to that word we've 0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:13.560 been talking about all I appreciate you guys joing. So 0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:16.600 we're back on It was a Thursday of this week. Uh, 0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:19.000 to get you guys ready at there's there's so much 0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.120 going on. We got a joint practice now that's gonna 0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:23.080 happen tomorrow between the Cowboys and the Rams. 0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:24.439 Are coming back out for another day. 0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:27.000 More training camp life, Yes, more training camp Live. 0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:29.479 We'll have all that going tomorrow and then we'll head 0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:32.839 into a weekend of football. On Saturday, Cowboys will take 0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:35.560 on the Las Vegas Raiders heading out to Las Vegas 0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:37.520 on Friday, will be out there and then we'll. 0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:39.399 Get back to the sportsbook. Derek, you know about that? 0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:42.120 Do we standard at sports book? Hey, I don't do that, 0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:43.360 Rob Phillips. 0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:46.080 I've done all my training. I've done all my training. 0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:48.120 I know exactly where I should be it should not be, 0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:50.200 so you will not catch me in the sports. 0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:52.960 Yeah, Rob Phillips, Yeah, you going there. You're both fired. Okay, 0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:55.080 sports until. 0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:56.839 The next time Brian brought us and we're gonna see 0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:58.000 a Nick Harris. I'm Derek Eagleton. 0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:00.080 This has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:00.640 Com Radio. 0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:04.640 This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:06.640 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.