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Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome to J dot L, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: What's Up? Hi? Hi, Hi, everybody, Welcome to J dot

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Speaker 2: L the Podcast. I'm sitting here with my wonderful sister

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Speaker 2: friends Laiah Saint Clair what that was?

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Speaker 3: And Aga Graydon Danceler.

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Speaker 2: Hello. Yeah, it's been it's been a little moment. Lots

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Speaker 2: has occurred in our in our lives. Some of it

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Speaker 2: is wild and amazing, and some of it is simple

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Speaker 2: and poignant, and some of it just we slept, you know,

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Speaker 2: I know, I took a deep, deep nap on them

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Speaker 2: on multiple kass Jill Scott by the way, because I

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Speaker 2: didn't introduce myself, but yeah, I definitely didn't. Okay, Yes,

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Speaker 2: good good things, Yeah, good good good life, living stuff,

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Speaker 2: just living. One thing that I discovered during this time

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Speaker 2: is that I have I have an achilles spur. Oh shit,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you got spurs like the President. I got spurs.

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Speaker 2: I just showed my age.

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Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 3: What that mean though? What that mean?

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Speaker 2: It means that I got some weird bone that is

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Speaker 2: kind of sticking out and just agitating my my achilles.

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Speaker 3: Wo.

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Speaker 2: So eventually I'm probably gonna have to get that shaved

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Speaker 2: or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, does that affect your ability where

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Speaker 1: like high heels and stuff?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, without question?

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Speaker 4: Yo, can you talk about because let's just keep it

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Speaker 4: funky and absolutely real that we've all been on on

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Speaker 4: who is Joe Scott tour break and it's just interesting

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Speaker 4: seeing your new tour regalia versus your old and talking

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Speaker 4: about shoes because Asian and I were fortunate enough to

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Speaker 4: catch you, you know, in the in the in your

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Speaker 4: tour process, and I got a little jealous. I was like, Jill,

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Speaker 4: what the hell? What change? No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, And then that another part of that is

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Speaker 2: like you guys know I have anxiety, right, I understand

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Speaker 2: it's just a lot of people. It's a lot of people,

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Speaker 2: and I'm in front of a lot of people. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's been a while too, right, it's been three years?

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, right, yes.

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Speaker 2: You know. I'll shaken in my boots quite a bit,

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Speaker 2: like can I do this? Do I do I remember?

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Speaker 2: Will I will I be able to emote? Will I

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Speaker 2: will I be able to change? You know?

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Speaker 3: Will I be able to like?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Like it's been a long time and

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Speaker 2: I've really been living another life, you know, outside.

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Speaker 4: Getting the reviews, and the reviews say that Jill is.

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Speaker 2: Fucking That's how I feel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I feel like a good rest changes the game.

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Speaker 1: A good rest, you're nervous about not being able to

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Speaker 1: re enter, But the rest and the step back is

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Speaker 1: what makes you probably that much better. Like you're saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you come back with a fresh energy, and you know,

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Speaker 1: like you haven't used the voice in that same way

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Speaker 1: in a long time. So the voice has rested. The

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Speaker 1: body has rested too. The body has rested. I think

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that it's been off the chain. I

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Speaker 1: wore sneakers on stage for the first time in a

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Speaker 1: long long time recently too.

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna tell you something.

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Speaker 2: It's you ain't never going back. But you ain't never

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Speaker 2: going back.

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Speaker 3: I bet you you got something. Here's one. You're saying better.

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Speaker 5: Because you're comfortable.

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Speaker 1: That's fair enough, because you're comfortable. And you ever heard

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Speaker 1: you'd you have her? The saying flat foot singing, well.

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Speaker 4: Patty LaBelle, y'all just made me think about Patty Like

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Speaker 4: she kicks off the shoes.

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Speaker 2: That's when she kicks off the shoes.

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Speaker 3: That flat foot singing, it's different.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I ain't gonna lie. I wear birkenstocks, I

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Speaker 2: wear wear whatever. I feel like.

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Speaker 1: I would take this moment to honor, honor the elder

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Speaker 1: that is Lisa Fisher.

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Speaker 2: We we wanted to her because she always.

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Speaker 1: No, Because I'm gonna tell you something. A while ago

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Speaker 1: she decided, I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this

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Speaker 1: with y'all anymore. I'm not giving y'all full on glamoor, makeup,

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Speaker 1: hair heels. You all are gonna get this singing on today, and.

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Speaker 3: That's what you're gonna get.

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Speaker 1: And once she gave us the singing, she said, no,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna come for the singing, okay.

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Speaker 4: But she she was. She was in Glam War, she

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Speaker 4: was in Glam Military. I mean she started out.

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Speaker 3: With, yes, she comes from that era.

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Speaker 1: You pulled it together, honey, Yes that's Jill.

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Speaker 3: You said ship, you sprayed it, you sacked it, and

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Speaker 3: then you gave them voice. Okay, she said, no, we're

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Speaker 3: stripping this down.

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Speaker 2: So wait, is Jill Scott not cinching anymore? Are you

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Speaker 2: like you saying you for the shoes the sench. This

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Speaker 2: is Jill Scott. I'm gonna tell you the whole truth

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Speaker 2: everything I do, everything, that I do supports me on stage. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Like I definitely I wears a cinch, but it's it's

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Speaker 2: also across my back so that I feel safe. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like it's a whole thing. I read, Oh wow, strengthening

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Speaker 2: aligned exactly all the things.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, indeed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But I also realized that since I've been on

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Speaker 2: this road for these last couple of months, I'm like, girl,

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's some exercising to be done. It's a

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Speaker 2: muscle builds un to be done because it's been three years,

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Speaker 2: and it's a I'm different you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's a different muscle, it's a different energy. But how

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Speaker 2: I am now is strange to me because after I

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Speaker 2: get off stage, I am beaming for about three four hours.

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Speaker 2: I don't go to bed. I can't go to bed.

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Speaker 2: I'm still walking, you know, I'm still like talking, I'm

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Speaker 2: still like moving, I'm still you know. So typically now

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Speaker 2: I'm like, when I get back to the hotel, I'll

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Speaker 2: just pack all my stuff up, you know, like to

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Speaker 2: prepare for the next day so that I can sleep.

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Speaker 3: A little longer.

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Speaker 2: Bea we got to go to the next you know, Like, yes,

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Speaker 2: but I got it.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, because I mean, I don't know singing it

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Speaker 1: does it? It's the payoff for all the other bs.

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Speaker 1: You go through all the other bs to feel that

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Speaker 1: spiritual and that physical connection and you go out there

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Speaker 1: and it's just like amazing. There's nothing on the planet

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Speaker 1: like that. And then mind you you're singing your songs.

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Speaker 3: You're singing your songs.

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Speaker 1: That you wrote from your heart and your experience and

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Speaker 1: your living that. Yeah, and your your your and your creativity,

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Speaker 1: and you're living that in that moment, you're reconnecting with

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Speaker 1: your own you know, ability to create.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all of that is that's the point, right.

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Speaker 1: That that talking about it like I feel it.

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Speaker 2: It's if I had any questions whether I still loved

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Speaker 2: it or that, you know, if it was for me

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Speaker 2: or not. I got my answer.

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Speaker 3: I got my answer.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, because yeah, because you know, I was quitting

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Speaker 2: many many, many times.

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Speaker 4: We hope, so we want you to enjoy it while

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Speaker 4: you're doing it. Yeah, So can I ask my fan

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Speaker 4: perspective because 'all know I like to I like to

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Speaker 4: look at y'all and my fan perspective sometimes.

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Speaker 5: So this is interesting.

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Speaker 4: But my performance thing right because I Jill said she

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Speaker 4: hasn't performed in three years, right, But I know that agent.

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Speaker 5: She has been doing like a few spot days out

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Speaker 5: throughout the COVID and whatnot. Whatever.

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Speaker 4: But you just had your first big trip international trip.

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Speaker 5: Right in the COVID. Am I right?

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Speaker 2: How's that right?

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Speaker 5: This is your first big international work trip work trip.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I wasn't working. I wasn't working, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know I worked. The only year that I didn't

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Speaker 5: Wait wait wait the only work.

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Speaker 3: I was only the only year is I just want

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Speaker 3: to say this.

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Speaker 1: The only time that I did not work was twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, I went back to work.

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Speaker 2: I worked a lot, That's what I'm saying. That's what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: And then twenty.

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Speaker 1: Twenty two was the year that we worked the most.

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Speaker 1: So we worked every month like we' this.

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Speaker 5: Is That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So this is this was my first job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this was my first time overseas in over in

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Speaker 1: over three years. But I did not go to work.

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Speaker 1: I actually don't go back to Europe to work for

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Speaker 1: another I think like six months.

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Speaker 5: I forgot you didn't work when you went.

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Speaker 6: More real talk after the break.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, So why were you in Europe?

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Speaker 3: I wasn't in Europe. No, I wasn't. I went to Okay,

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Speaker 3: all right, yeah, y'all, y'all pulls together a segway.

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Speaker 5: God, we're doing this for a while.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: I was like, this is so professional. Where'd I go?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 5: I did not go up.

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Speaker 1: I went to to Saudia, Arabia zalig.

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Speaker 3: Yes. I went to Saudi for seven days.

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Speaker 1: It was not for work. It was a spiritual pilgrimage.

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Speaker 1: But it's the minor pilgrimage. So I know many of

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Speaker 1: you all who if you're familiar with Malcolm X, right,

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Speaker 1: then Malcolm goes and makes Hodge and that's when he

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Speaker 1: becomes el Hadje Malik Shabbaz, right, And for the most

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Speaker 1: kind of general black, general black audience, that's what they

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Speaker 1: know of Hodge. So Hodge is the major kind of

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Speaker 1: once in a lifetime pilgrimage that Muslims make. Then there's

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Speaker 1: like a minor, a minor pilgrimage called Umra. Umra is

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Speaker 1: something that you can make at any time, really and

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Speaker 1: you can do it as many times as you want to.

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Speaker 1: And umra can you know you can do that in

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Speaker 1: any time during the year. So this year, the backstory

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Speaker 1: is that my mother in law, who is in her

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Speaker 1: I won't.

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Speaker 3: Even say what her age is. She's nailser. It'd alling.

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Speaker 1: We don't put the age out there that was sold.

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Speaker 1: We don't do that anymore. So she has been Muslim

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Speaker 1: for fifty plus years. She was going to make Umra.

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Speaker 1: My brother in law was going to escort her as well.

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Speaker 1: She and her best friend best girlfriend were going to go,

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Speaker 1: and that was their plan. Well, as the planning was

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Speaker 1: going forward, her children one by one decided they were

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Speaker 1: going to also go. But she didn't know this. So

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Speaker 1: we had already planned that we were going to do

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Speaker 1: a sendoff dinner for her the night before she left

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Speaker 1: to go to Saudi. But what she didn't know was

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Speaker 1: that the night that we had her send away that

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Speaker 1: her children would also be making this pilgrimage with her.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So it was all but two of her children and

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Speaker 3: their mates.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I had a party.

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Speaker 1: We had a party plane dowelling yes, and then so

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Speaker 1: two other family friends also came. So there were eleven

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Speaker 1: of us in total. And what we ended up calling

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Speaker 1: Agent from my favorite American moment was this, The whole

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Speaker 1: They everywhere we were. If it wasn't bad enough that

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Speaker 5: I know they are, and looking at y'all life with

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean, and let me just tell you

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Speaker 1: It was just like any place really, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: Because being respectful is important too, because you just can't

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Speaker 1: And eventually the quiet really didn't fight me. Eventually the

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: I love this so so so much, age, I love

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Speaker 2: Years and years are not being heard, years and years

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Speaker 5: I can't take your truth right now.

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Speaker 4: I can't take all this truth right now, Joe Scott, listen,

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Speaker 2: Thank you for explaining me.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for explaining me.

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Speaker 1: If you feel silenced in general, Probably there is a

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Speaker 3: Either there is just.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there is just a natural inclination to joyous behavior

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Speaker 4: I thought we created the word hey, come on, but.

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Speaker 3: Here's the vibes, here's the vibes. All of it is true.

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Speaker 3: I think I think it's all true.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I love to hold a multiply appreciate

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Speaker 2: We're not. That's what I love, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Motherfucking women. That's why.

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Speaker 4: That's because we have you knowed you've been saying it's

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Speaker 2: Listen and sisters, that's what I'm saying, is always that.

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Speaker 2: That's why I won't.

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Speaker 1: And let me say this not this is not even

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Speaker 1: for spiritual belief that's all over the world. See, that's

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Speaker 1: one thing that's really kind of beautiful. You go there

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Speaker 1: and you see people from all over. But there was

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Speaker 1: a difference in the way sisters who were brown treated me,

447
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Speaker 1: talk to me, touched me. Then there was a difference.

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Speaker 3: There was a different kind of kindness, openness and receiving.

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Speaker 1: There just was. And we connect like that all over

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Speaker 1: the world. This is what I understand about it now, right,

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Speaker 1: A sister from Somalia talked to me, a sister from here,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: It was like a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 1: But I did and that was kind of a very

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Speaker 1: very much like a built in softness that was there.

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Speaker 1: You know, that was a built in And I don't

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Speaker 1: say that to say I didn't have kind moments with

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Speaker 1: other women and other women who were American and or

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Speaker 1: English speaking who weren't black. Because that happened. Also, English

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Speaker 1: speaking people definitely sought me out. So I had a

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Speaker 1: great moment with a sister from the UK, a white

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Speaker 1: sister from the UK. I had a great moment with

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Speaker 1: a sister from Detroit who prayed next to me the

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Speaker 1: Prophet's Mosque in Medina. And I had a great moment

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Speaker 1: where another sister was from Canada whose parents are from Somalia,

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Speaker 1: but she grew up in Canada.

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Speaker 3: So I had a bunch of different moments like that, we're.

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Speaker 7: Gonna take a quick break and then we'll be right back.

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Speaker 2: I love that you were able to experience being first

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Speaker 2: everybody was, you know, of same faith, not similar, same same.

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Speaker 3: That's to experience.

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Speaker 2: That because you're obviously here in the United States. You know,

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Speaker 2: you've got your Christians, and then you got your Christians,

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Speaker 2: and they got your Christians, and then got your Christians,

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Speaker 2: and then you got your It's a lot.

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Speaker 1: Well, to be fair, to be fair, to be fair,

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Speaker 1: there's variation in the Islamic world. So there's there's very Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's variation in all of it, right, the would be.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: There's variation in the way people do things their culture

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Speaker 1: very much. So if you go into if you go

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Speaker 1: into Mecca, right, and that was the only time you

483
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Speaker 1: ever spend time around Muslims, you would think all Muslim women.

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Speaker 2: Wear black, Okay, But but.

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Speaker 1: If you went to a Sambol, right, then you would

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Speaker 1: see that Muslim women wear all kinds of colors.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: So depending on where you are, yes, there are differences

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Speaker 1: in variations, but there but there's a basic there's a

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Speaker 1: basic belief that is that it is the same across

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Speaker 1: the board. And let me just tell you guys, this

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Speaker 1: is the singular most powerful moment of my life. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this was the singular most powerful moment of my life

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Speaker 1: as it pertains to believe in connection with God.

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Speaker 3: Right, so we went to Mecca.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: The mosque in Mecca is called Masja.

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Speaker 1: Haram, right, and it holds at capacity two point five

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Speaker 1: million people. Who I said that five massjed Haram massed

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Speaker 1: Haram is. You've probably seen it in photographs. In the

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Speaker 1: center of Mashya Haram is the kaba. The kaba is

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Speaker 1: a black building covered it's covered in a black draping

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Speaker 1: and it's a little black square. And you've seen this.

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Speaker 1: You probably see if you've ever seen pictures of what

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Speaker 1: people might say is hodge or what you see people

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Speaker 1: circle it, right, So Muslims pray in the direction of

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Speaker 1: the Kaba. So everywhere you go in the world, when

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Speaker 1: a Muslim praise, they will find the direction towards the Kaba.

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Speaker 1: The Kaba is located in this mostuat, so everybody prays

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Speaker 1: in the direction of this one spot.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna tell you guys a little quick thing

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Speaker 1: about the Kaba. And again, I know people of all

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Speaker 1: kinds of faith listen to this podcast. This is not

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Speaker 1: in any way to start debates about religion. So just

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Speaker 1: just put that there. The Kaba is in in Islamic belief,

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Speaker 1: believed to be the spot in place where Abraham and

518
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Speaker 1: his son Ishmael built the first place of worship to

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Speaker 1: a singular God.

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Speaker 3: So Muslims are.

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Speaker 2: Not praying to the Kaba.

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Speaker 3: They're praying in the direction of the first place of worship. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So in essence, they're playing praying in the Kaba, you

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Speaker 3: feel me.

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Speaker 1: And so this thing that this place that I've seen

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Speaker 1: people pray towards for twenty plus years, right, that I've

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Speaker 1: prayed towards for twenty plus years. I was standing there

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Speaker 1: looking at it. Okay, mind you, mind you, two point

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Speaker 1: five million people can fit in this myshit.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So we went into that mos two times the time

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Speaker 1: that I was in Mecca. Okay, the second time. The

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Speaker 1: first time we went we went to perform umra, which

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Speaker 1: is something separate, right, That's that was the pilgrimage.

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Speaker 3: We went to perform umer, which I can explain later

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Speaker 3: if you want me to.

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Speaker 1: But what I want to explain to you is two

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Speaker 1: days after we perform umer when we went there just

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Speaker 1: for prayer time. We went there for prayer time in

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Speaker 1: late afternoon prayer, which is called aser. We went there

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Speaker 1: to pray aser. And I need you guys to understand

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Speaker 1: what it felt like to be in a place where

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Speaker 1: two point five million people can be on the bottom floor,

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Speaker 1: where there are several hundred thousand people, and all of

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Speaker 1: those people performed the exact same prayer at the exact

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Speaker 1: same time in silence.

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Speaker 2: What did you feel like? What did you feel like?

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Speaker 5: Ag? What did you feel?

549
00:29:54,520 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: Have never witnessed and are participated in a thing like that?

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Speaker 1: In my life?

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Speaker 3: I wish I had beautiful words. I wish I had beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Words, but I can only say at past there is

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Speaker 1: there is a very collective peace where and mind you know,

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Speaker 1: the floor is marble, it's white marble. To put my

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Speaker 1: forehead down on that white marble floor, no rug, no nothing,

556
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Speaker 1: and all of us are head down. All of us

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Speaker 1: have decided and understood in the collective moment that there

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Speaker 1: is a power bigger than ourselves, that creation has happened,

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Speaker 1: and that we are the product of creation. We are

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Speaker 1: the product of a perfect love. There isn't anything like that.

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Speaker 1: You want to take a moment and shuck whatever thoughts

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Speaker 1: you have about the validity of other people's belief for

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Speaker 1: what ugly things you've seen human beings do, or anything

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Speaker 1: that any kind of like hypocritical behavior that you've witnessed

565
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Speaker 1: other humans do, and think about a moment in time

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Speaker 1: where people can collectively be at peace and in worship,

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Speaker 1: in silence, in silence to get birds chirping.

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Speaker 3: You can literally hear birds chirping a.

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Speaker 1: Hundred and I say, a hundred thousand people, hundreds of

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Speaker 1: thousands of people, my love I see in this moment.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy because in this country that that happens in

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Speaker 4: very selective times.

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Speaker 2: And I was just thinking, like.

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Speaker 4: The last time I felt that was standing in a

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Speaker 4: millionaire march or something like that, where somebody was doing

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Speaker 4: a prayer and a million you know.

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Speaker 1: Like the scale to which the scale to which I

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Speaker 1: am talking about never there is an comparison. I just

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Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that from

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Speaker 1: the arrogance of belief. No, I'm saying the scale of

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Speaker 1: this is not a thing that you've experienced or that

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Speaker 1: you've seen before. The scale is much bigger than anything

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Speaker 1: you could imagine, even the building itself, the structure itself.

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Speaker 3: You think about what building looks like this, There isn't

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Speaker 3: one two point five.

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Speaker 1: There is a million million, a city, a city and

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Speaker 1: a lot of stadiums.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been in a lot of stadiums in my life.

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Speaker 4: I'm embarrassed to mention the main man margins. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: that's just a million. That's just a million people in

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Speaker 4: that place was crowded. So you know, even if you

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Speaker 4: think about like that outdoor space of that, that's half

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Speaker 4: the size of what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: The outside and people pray outside of it.

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Speaker 1: So there's the outside too, there's it goes three levels

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Speaker 1: up and the people that pray on the rooftop part.

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Speaker 3: Of it too.

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Speaker 1: So there's just it's it is. It is an amazing

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Speaker 1: kind of experience. But more than anything, what it shows

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Speaker 1: you is a humanity that people have that is possible.

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Speaker 3: And needed to carry this however, it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we all get to carry it like

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Speaker 2: you do. I do right now. I feel like, like,

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Speaker 2: how else will we.

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Speaker 3: Know if someone, if nobody.

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Speaker 2: Tells you that something like this even exists, how would

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Speaker 2: we even know? And this and I feel so fortified

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Speaker 2: with hope right now. Thank you. I'm trying not.

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Speaker 1: To let it go go Leah, don't you know. And

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Speaker 1: that's the thing, like we chow oh girl. We have

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Speaker 1: so many things that keep us from a I don't know,

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Speaker 1: just a common kind of sense of connection.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, any things that keep us from that.

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Speaker 1: And to know things is possible really, like you said,

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Speaker 1: it's almost like that is the thing. To know a

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Speaker 1: thing is possible, even the ugliness of the world, you know,

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Speaker 1: because Saudi Arabia, come on, as a country, we already

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Speaker 1: know there's some things. Unsavory things happen everywhere, and every

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Speaker 1: government and every society, you know, all of these things happen,

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Speaker 1: you know, but also this happens too.

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Speaker 3: Also, this happens too.

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Speaker 5: And often, right, that's crazy, and often.

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Speaker 1: Every day every day, girl, there's five prayers a day

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Speaker 1: every day, that.

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Speaker 2: Many people every day. I'm not saying at least.

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Speaker 1: At least they're not at capacity, Yeah, they're not at capacity. Whatever,

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Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of people every day. If you woke up,

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Speaker 1: if we were in Saudi right now, it is right

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Speaker 1: now currently one thirty five, you know PM, in a

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Speaker 1: couple of hours, we could all just go we could

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Speaker 1: all go over there and pray together today.

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Speaker 2: You know, got to hear the humanity in that. Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, that is so exciting, so hopeful.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting too is to watch people in their experiences, right,

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Speaker 1: because everybody's having coming from a different place in the world.

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Speaker 1: And so I'll circle back to when we actually performed Umer.

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Speaker 1: So one of the big parts of performing Umer's two parts.

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Speaker 1: One part is where you circle around the coba seven

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Speaker 1: times called Tuwaff's right, So let me say that that's

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Speaker 1: what the circle is, called a tawaff. So you make

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Speaker 1: that circle seven times, right.

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Speaker 3: If you've seen photographs or video, you see tons of

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Speaker 3: people making a circle. And the way that I look

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Speaker 3: at it is it feels like a school of fish.

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Speaker 3: You watch school of fish move you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Together?

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Speaker 1: If you yeah, if you lock into the rhythm, right,

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Speaker 1: it can be a very peaceful movement.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: But then also too, there are other people whose energy

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Speaker 1: is full of anxiety and overwhelming.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: It's like if you go to church, right, and there's

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Speaker 1: some people in their chair rocking back and forth, and

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Speaker 1: there's some people who are shouting and falling out on

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Speaker 1: the ground.

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Speaker 3: It no different.

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Speaker 1: You have some people have a very settled spirit and

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Speaker 1: some people have a very big and overwhelmed kind of spirit.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: Wait, wait, are they humming or singing or saying the

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Speaker 2: prayer or is it sign.

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Speaker 1: That usually people are like praying out loud but not

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Speaker 1: you know, some people are loud, some people are not.

665
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: But the general vibe is rather subdued and quiet, right, generally,

666
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that everybody is good.

667
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: I already know it.

668
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's the thing you could There actually isn't

669
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: a prescribed prayer. You can say whatever you want during

670
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: this time period, So there isn't a prescribe. You say

671
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: whatever personal prayers you want when you turn around it

672
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: right there, if you lock into the rhythm of it

673
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: right and there's nobody, and sometimes you have groups that

674
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: might come in and they're a little bit more fast

675
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: and they're pushing, and it could be it could turn,

676
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: it could shift the peaceful energy right, because that happens too,

677
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: So I think it's important to talk about both sides.

678
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: But if you lock into that peaceful energy, you can

679
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: kind of know when to slow down, let people pass

680
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: do their thing, and you just keep going. And as

681
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: we were turning around, we had no intentions of actually

682
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: getting close to the car. But honestly, I always thought

683
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: to myself, like all them people, we ain't never gonna

684
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: get close to it. And we went in there. We

685
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: did one circle, we did two. There's eleven of us.

686
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: We stayed tight. We were locked in arms, just so

687
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: that we wouldn't lose each other, because you're talking about

688
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousand people, thousands of people moving. You don't

689
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: want to lose nobody. We had elders with us. We

690
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: didn't want them to get tired, fall, trip, anything like that,

691
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: so we had to be information. We turned around, go

692
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: around the first time, go around the second time, second

693
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: time we went around, I looked up to my left.

694
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, we are very close

695
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: to the cobba. We went around the third time, and y'all,

696
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: before I knew it, my husband had made My husband

697
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: was in the front. He made a bee line to

698
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: the left, kind of leading the group, and then we

699
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: went to the left and child, we were literally right

700
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: next to it and right in front. And so it

701
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: was interesting because this thing, this moment, this space that

702
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: we were in, right, there's all these people in here,

703
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 1: right and these people every day, thousands and thousands, hundreds

704
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: and thousands of people are in here, and they'll never

705
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: actually get close to this thing. And so for some

706
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: reason it was meant that we would be in that

707
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: space and time, and all eleven of us were able

708
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: to stand there and make our prayers. But the beautiful

709
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: part for me was my mother in law fifty years

710
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: as a Muslim, she lives in America.

711
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 3: She's done very little traveling. She's been a few places,

712
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 3: but done very little traveling. Here she was standing there

713
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 3: in the place of the direction she's prayed for fifty years,

714
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 3: at the spot for her very sacred place for her

715
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 3: as a believer, and watching her have that moment was

716
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 3: really just like an honor of my life. To be honest,

717
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: I won't even.

718
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: Lie to you.

719
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: She's standing there and at one point there are lots

720
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: of people standing in front of her, and she was

721
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: kind of just out of reach of it, so I

722
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: know she wanted to touch it, but she's just out

723
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: of reach. And all these people were there and they're

724
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: not paying any attention to you because they're like, this

725
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: is my moment, so they're not really paying attention to

726
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: what you're doing, you know, praying and doing their thing.

727
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: There was a woman who said her prayers and as

728
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: she moved out of her spot right and mind you,

729
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: so many people one spot opens up. It feels right away,

730
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: you understand I'm saying, she moved away, and as she

731
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: moved away out of her spot, she grabbed my mother

732
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: in law and placed my mother in law in the

733
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: spot where she was. And this was like such a

734
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: gracious moment for me to witness around so many people.

735
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 3: And as my mother in law put her hand up

736
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 3: on to touch the kaba.

737
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: Now, mind you, I was kind of like I had

738
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: my prayers just written on my phone, but I have

739
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: my phone in my hand, I wasn't taking any pictures

740
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: or anything at that moment. And then my sister in

741
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: law turned around and said, age, please take this picture.

742
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: And I just had my phone in my hand, and

743
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: I lifted up and took the picture, and I was

744
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: able to capture the moment of my mother in law

745
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: making her prayers with her hand on the kaba. And

746
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: the thing that's so powerful about this moment we talked

747
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: about black women. My father in law, her husband, her

748
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: former husband, had made hodge. He was the head of

749
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: their family. He had, you know, implemented this belief in

750
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: all his children. We talked about him a lot on

751
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: the trip, right. But my mother in law, my mother

752
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: in law, has been the pillar of this family. She

753
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: has been the person that has held this family together

754
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: through a number of losses, a number of triumphs. She

755
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: has been the consistent love to these grandchildren. She has

756
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: been the person. It is her kindness, it is her love,

757
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 1: It is her ability to stand in her own truth,

758
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: which is the reason why the family that I have

759
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: been married into is as strong as it is. She

760
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: is that reason to watch her be the first of

761
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: the eleven of us to touch the co but to

762
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: be in that space to watch her make her prayers,

763
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: knowing all of you, knowing for that who was in

764
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: those prayers and who has been in her prayers for

765
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: this for for decades. Was a powerful moment. It showed you.

766
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: It was it was, It was an example. It was

767
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: a conversation that God was having with us.

768
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: Feel like a Bookie to me, I feel like you

769
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: got to book you liked you.

770
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 3: I told you, I loved you.

771
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: I told you the whole time, I showed you.

772
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 3: I loved you.

773
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: I showed you.

774
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 3: I told you, Bookie.

775
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: And the fruition is so much greater than you could

776
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 2: ever ever ever imagine.

777
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, all of you gorgeous, Look how easy all so easy?

778
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 3: Y'all easy easy?

779
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 4: And what does she say? Can you tell us? What

780
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 4: does she say? Like after this experience, like y'all got it.

781
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 4: When y'all finally got a chance to breathe and talk

782
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 4: about it a lot, she she cried a.

783
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 7: Lot more conversation after the break.

784
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 5: I myself am glad that you went back.

785
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 4: I think that that was what the greatest part of

786
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 4: this whole experience, that.

787
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: You went second.

788
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: It was your ma'am.

789
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 4: It was And I just want to say that when

790
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 4: I do say what I did.

791
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 5: I would just like it to be a to be

792
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 5: continued because.

793
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 4: It's a whole other topic and definitely not in the

794
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 4: space of the beautiful, holy richness that Agia had experienced.

795
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 4: But it is something that doesn't need to be verst about.

796
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 4: So I'm so serious setting you off.

797
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: I said the word, to say the word, I'll cut

798
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 2: you off. I'll get you say the word. You'll say,

799
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: I say you respect.

800
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 5: Yes, I just heard about that. Yes, okay, respect, ma'am,

801
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 5: thank you, mm hmm.

802
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: This whole time, we've been three different people, this whole time,

803
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 2: three different lives, sharing our lives with each other, this

804
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 2: whole thing. Yes, this, this whole ship. Every single one

805
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: of us has added to the stew that is us.

806
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 5: Yes, that's true, and about I will add, I will add.

807
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 5: But what I'm I guarantee.

808
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 2: You I'm not saying this.

809
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 4: I'm saying this is another conversation that we will all

810
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 4: want to have separate day. I will say the word,

811
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 4: and you will be like, and you will be like, okay,

812
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 4: like you're right to be continued sen the word perriman

813
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 4: boss baby.

814
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, no, we can start it right now, ma'am.

815
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 3: We can start it and continue, because yes, you.

816
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: Want to know what I've been doing. I've been sweating, bitch.

817
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 3: I've been sweating, bitch.

818
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 4: I would like to say it averages about two two

819
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 4: times an hour.

820
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: Okay, let me say I've been losing.

821
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 5: I don't think I've.

822
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: Lost four pounds in water weight.

823
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if you really do on you list?

824
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: Okay, and oh.

825
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 5: Wait, what I tell y'all?

826
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 4: The denial was so deep, the denial, I said.

827
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 5: I sent the email to my doctor.

828
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 4: I said, listen, you told me last year I wasn't perimenopausal.

829
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: I took your.

830
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 5: Word for a doctor.

831
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: I said, but I've been sweating. I've been sweating.

832
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 5: She emailed me back.

833
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: She says, sound like I'm from Oh you know what

834
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: I mean. But I heard it. I had.

835
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 3: I had an episode on First Wives Club.

836
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: I'm on B E T.

837
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 3: And show Time and oh.

838
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: Yes, my, my, my character Hazel had perimenopause. That was

839
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 2: the first time I heard of it. So I'm trying

840
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: to do I'm trying to do right. Okay, somebody going in, Jill,

841
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, so okay, so that's what

842
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: I was doing as well.

843
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 4: So yeah, what I do know is, Jill, is that

844
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 4: my birthday was in January and the last time I

845
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 4: was on my period.

846
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 5: Was in February.

847
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 4: So it's literally like and I should as in this

848
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 4: today of this recording people it's apral, So it's literally

849
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 4: like I turn fast, I turned the faux five and

850
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 4: my body went, yes, bitch, you turned the faux five.

851
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 4: Changes are coming, and so that's it's been an interesting

852
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 4: ride and so lately a lot of people, even from

853
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 4: Oprah to Drew Barrymore. I'm very exciting you guys because

854
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 4: much like.

855
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 5: The period, I do believe Perry, menopause is going to

856
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 5: be the next thing that women are really talking about.

857
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 3: Because you know it can last, it can last for

858
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 3: a while.

859
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: Because you might actually get a period again this year,

860
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: but they're saying that you're not.

861
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 3: Actually Minopause is not over.

862
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: Until you haven't had a period for a full year,

863
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: so you can go back and forth.

864
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 2: I think I've been in perimenopause since I was thirty three, So.

865
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 4: I thought so too, Jill, because I was sweat quite often.

866
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 4: Is that why you talk so too? Just because it

867
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 4: was a square of other reasons.

868
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: I don't get cycles. I didn't get cycles for a long, long,

869
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 2: long time long.

870
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 4: It's interesting because and the thing about the Perry is

871
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 4: it's like you can still get get Some babies are

872
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 4: made in this process because you don't know when your

873
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 4: period is coming and whatnot, so you don't know when.

874
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 3: I never have not the whole time, the whole time.

875
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: So I literally think I've been perimenopausal since I got

876
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: my period back when I was thirty three. It stopped

877
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: when I was fourteen and a half and didn't come

878
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 2: back until I was thirty three.

879
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 4: But see, yeah, because you already had things, but you

880
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 4: didn't have anything else but.

881
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 3: That I had things things.

882
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 2: No, that's I had asked God to take it away

883
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: because I was like, this hurts and I don't like

884
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 2: I don't like how it smells. I don't like this business.

885
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 2: I don't like none of this and it hurts, sound hurts,

886
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: Like take this away from me and bring it back

887
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 2: when you're ready for me to have a baby.

888
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 5: Don't even get me sweat about that.

889
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know it went on that, it

890
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: went away for years. It was a it was beautiful.

891
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't think it was beautiful at the time,

892
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: but it went away from fourteen and a half to

893
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: thirty three, And interestingly enough, the night that it came back,

894
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: I was in London and I got I opened my

895
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: email and it said that I was officially divorced, and

896
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 2: I cried like a baby and I got my mother,

897
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: fucking wow wow.

898
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 4: And then it just stayed with you, and it just

899
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 4: stayed every mom I love that shit.

900
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: And then I then I had a period, and then

901
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: later I had a baby.

902
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, said yeah, you might be unicorn.

903
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 2: On and then and then even now it comes and

904
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 2: then sometimes.

905
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think.

906
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not really a common thing, but it

907
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: may be more common than we think.

908
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 3: That's the thing.

909
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's specifically common, but it's more

910
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: common than you think. I think people don't talk enough

911
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: about that.

912
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: Women.

913
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: Many women at their regular periods their whole life, and

914
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: many women have always had it irregular period.

915
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 3: Some people have a period.

916
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: And don't have it for months and months and months

917
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: and months, and that all think. So I think that

918
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: happens way more often than we probably talk about. I

919
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: think we don't know a lot about women's cycles, and

920
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: I think there's so little researching.

921
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 2: We're just starting. It's probably why. As soon as forty

922
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: five came, all of a sudden, I had a whole

923
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 2: bunch of hairs on my chin, and I was like,

924
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 2: who are you?

925
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 3: Who is this man laying across my tin upside down?

926
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 2: Like what is going on?

927
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: I had a little I had a little one too.

928
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 1: I got a little a little tinly regularly little one

929
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: little hair too. I was she was, she was cracking

930
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: me up. I said, oh, I'm a pull you sis.

931
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 1: I don't care what they say. They say three more

932
00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: grow back.

933
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 2: But I think that's a part of this whole perimental

934
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 2: pause thing that I've been here ever since I was

935
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: thirty three. I didn't diagnose myself. Okay, now I just

936
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 2: don't sweat yet, bless you.

937
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 5: Darling, because the sweating is like this next level, And.

938
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 4: I think the main reason we need to talk about

939
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 4: it more is so that you can feel comfortable in

940
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 4: your sweat, so that people around you don't feel uncomfortable,

941
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 4: so that you because it's really a moment of like uncontrolled, it's.

942
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 5: Something that you really can't control.

943
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 4: And then after you sweat, then comes the cold because

944
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 4: guess what now you wet? Oh, it's a And I

945
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 4: realized it's also payback because my mom reminded me. She said,

946
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 4: you know, and there's a thing where people say you

947
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 4: should add you know, you should find out what your

948
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 4: mother's menopause story is because that yours will probably mimic it, which.

949
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 5: My mom says to me.

950
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 4: Things started forty five, she said, But I also remember

951
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 4: my sweats and you being the one to be.

952
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 2: Like, Mammy, you need, you need, you need a towel.

953
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 5: Mammy is sweating, Mammy, you need something, Mommy, mommy, and

954
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 5: I sold.

955
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 4: Now I'm saying, is this the motherfucking payback as well?

956
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 2: Am I? So?

957
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 4: I just got me some uh it was called estivent people,

958
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 4: the holistic stuff that it may take twenty something days.

959
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 3: Are you having any changes in like your mood or anything?

960
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 3: Is it just as small?

961
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 5: Now?

962
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 4: I'm hoping it's just a sweating y'all know, I'm like

963
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 4: super conscious of my moods, so I don't think so

964
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 4: I have to ask other people around here.

965
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 2: Sorry, Now you remember how Deanna, the fantastic and amazing

966
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 2: Deanna Williams always carried a gorgeous fan.

967
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 4: Now only do I have a class. But it's funny

968
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 4: you mentioned Deanna because she also reminded me.

969
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 5: She said, do you remember when I was your age

970
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 5: and how I was a super bitch?

971
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 4: And I said, Yo, it was like so many.

972
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: Things came together.

973
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 4: I was like, Yo, So now I'm real conscious because

974
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 4: and not just because of her, but.

975
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 5: Because I heard these things. I just I cannot. I

976
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 5: can't become a super bitch. I don't even know what

977
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 5: that looks like with me, y'all.

978
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: I'm scared of being real conscious of that, which is tiring.

979
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 4: Because you're always checking yourself, checking your responses for you

980
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 4: say your responses, and then you start sweating because you

981
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 4: get nervous because.

982
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe we could rename bitch because it looked like

983
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 2: it's gonna be what it is.

984
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 5: This is what I'm saying.

985
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 3: It looks like it's gonna be what it is.

986
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: To deserve it, it's like, take that name off of

987
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 2: it and put something else, something you like, something that

988
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 2: makes sense for this, because you're not mean, You're not nasty.

989
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,479
Speaker 2: Bitches are mean and nasty, and that ain't it. Ain't

990
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 2: give zero fucks about ship.

991
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 5: That's not mean neither though, that's not me neither. So

992
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 5: that's like, that's it.

993
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 4: That's it could I'm meditating more and often and whatnot.

994
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 4: That's what I'm trying my meditation.

995
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 3: You're just more direct.

996
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 5: If I don't know what this version is age, that's

997
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 5: what you know of me.

998
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 3: You're like this new version.

999
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 2: I think this new version a deeper voice. It's what

1000
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: you know, what you know? Maybe maybe she jiggles a

1001
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 2: little more. I don't know, she's a little bit this thing.

1002
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 2: You know what I'm like, Maybe you defind this thing

1003
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: instead of.

1004
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 5: As long as they don't dry up. As long as

1005
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 5: they don't dry.

1006
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: Up behind the dry Thank you say it again, Jim. Watery, juicy,

1007
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: juicy delivery, workful andful waterfall rainbow speaks.

1008
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: You speak moisture into your life, ma'am.

1009
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 5: A girl has a reputation.

1010
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 2: Oh now, a girl is news new, brand new.

1011
00:53:58,640 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 3: If you will.

1012
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: Transformed, what experiences?

1013
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm trying to participant. Jill's better at this,

1014
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: at this type of thing.

1015
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 2: You were, you were, you know the words. Sometimes sometimes girl,

1016
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: we're doing good.

1017
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 3: We're doing good, We're doing good. Come on, you gotta.

1018
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: Feeling life to.

1019
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 3: Life, life into her life and to the peace we speaking.

1020
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: There ain't nobody to be pretending to be shipped staying

1021
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 2: in the hot. I know it hasn't happened to me yet,

1022
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 2: but I've been on stage and had water pouring down

1023
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: my under my titties, okay, just all all in.

1024
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 3: My feet, just all of it.

1025
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 2: Just I've being on stage just the only thing I

1026
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 2: could equate it to. And I was pregnant in but

1027
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 2: Twana in the sun with a fat suit on.

1028
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 1: I've I've experienced the heat though, like the you have

1029
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: the summers what they call personal person like, are you

1030
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: having a personal summer?

1031
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 4: I hate when the elders ask who already been doing it,

1032
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 4: like ten ten years before, you.

1033
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,720
Speaker 5: Know, oh didd are you having a personal summer? But so, Asia,

1034
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 5: You've been having some some personal summers. Does it start

1035
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,479
Speaker 5: from the head? Is your Does it start from the head?

1036
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: Is it?

1037
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 4: Because it usually minds it is from the head, which

1038
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 4: is an interesting.

1039
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 3: It starts in my head.

1040
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: And definitely I felt like that that like I got

1041
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: to kick all the covers off a night, like kick

1042
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: everything off.

1043
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm having that, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.

1044
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 4: You start when you start with one leg out and

1045
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 4: then eventually it's just like and you start with pajamas

1046
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 4: or maybe a nice night.

1047
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 5: Then you really start going, why am I wearing us?

1048
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 5: Just wear you?

1049
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 2: Just wear your draw So far, just it's it's pajamas

1050
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: with a gentle fan.

1051
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: I'm enjoying doing it this good.

1052
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying fabrics them to pajama and and and a fan,

1053
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 2: a light fan.

1054
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 4: The window is open and the fan is on high, honey.

1055
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 5: And it is forty degrees outside around here. Wow.

1056
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 3: No, I was getting the little warm ups my homeboys.

1057
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 2: And he when he come home with his wife, he

1058
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 2: got to put on the coat. Please.

1059
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 4: You know, that's why look shouts to the partners that

1060
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 4: get it. I just want to say, min he he's

1061
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 4: been real sweet and patient and sweet about it.

1062
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: So it's I mean, it's the reality of life, you know.

1063
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: It's it's the thanks just what happens, you know, thank you.

1064
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 5: It is. But it's just one of the ones. We

1065
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 5: don't really leave blessing it up about too much. We

1066
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 5: haven't been thus far.

1067
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 3: We don't know a lot yet. We don't know a

1068
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 3: lot about it. We don't.

1069
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 5: We thought I'm like I thought, I'm young.

1070
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1071
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: Everything that you've heard thus far today has been an

1072
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 2: example of life. This thing we live in this thing

1073
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 2: is and when we follow our paths in our wholeness

1074
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: and our sincerity, the benefits what we reap is worth

1075
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: the living in your sincerity.

1076
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 3: Come on, it's worth it.

1077
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 5: That's your mother in law. She been through what I've

1078
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 5: been through, and then she.

1079
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,959
Speaker 3: Preach child present.

1080
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: And Amen. Thank you so much for listening to j

1081
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: dot L the podcast. Talk to you later. How do

1082
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: you Eat an Elephant? One by time?

1083
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 8: Hey, y'all, it's Airnberg, the producer here.

1084
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 3: We missed y'all for real.

1085
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 8: We are so excited to be back and sharing this

1086
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 8: podcast with you. This episode left me so inspired and

1087
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 8: just just blessed. I want to leave you with a

1088
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 8: couple resources from the things we talked about today. First up,

1089
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 8: there is still a time to see Joe on tour.

1090
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 8: I'll leave a link in the show notes for tickets.

1091
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 8: And if you're interested in learning more about taking a

1092
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 8: pilgrimage and planning your own, whether that's tied to a

1093
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 8: certain faith or not, I want to leave you with

1094
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 8: a resource from a website called a Sacred Journey. They

1095
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 8: lay out all the things you need to consider when

1096
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 8: thinking about taking a pilgrimage. In last but not least

1097
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 8: did any of you relate to Laia's journey with perimenopause.

1098
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 8: I am leaving you with an article from Nam's The

1099
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 8: North American Menopause Society that literally breaks down menopause one

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00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 8: on one, what's happening to your body, what to expect

1101
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 8: in perimenopause, what to expect in the full minopause transition.

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Speaker 2: But we will have an.

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Speaker 8: Episode later this season that dives deep into this topic.

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Speaker 3: Take care, y'all.

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Speaker 8: Tell all your friends that jedt L is back with

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Speaker 8: new episodes and I will see you here again next week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hi.

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Speaker 2: If you have comments on something we said in this

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Speaker 2: episode called eight six six, Hey, Jill, if you want

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Speaker 2: to add to this conversation, that's eight six six four.

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Speaker 3: Three nine five four five five.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget to tell us your name and the episode

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Speaker 2: you're referring to. You might just hear your message on

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Speaker 2: a future episode.

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Speaker 8: Thank you for listening to Jill Scott Presents Jay dot L.

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Speaker 3: The podcast.

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Speaker 2: Jay dot IL is a production of iHeartRadio. For more

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Speaker 2: podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the eye Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.