1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind from how Stuff 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: My name is Robert Lamb, and I'm Julie Douglas. Julia, 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: you have do you ever just said? At home and you're, 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: you know, you're maybe you're reading a book, maybe you're watching, 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: you know, a little TV, staring at the window, rocking chair, 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: in your rocking chair, and and you shut feeling a 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: little warm, and you suddenly think, what if I burst 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: into flames right now? What if I spontaneously come busted? 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: I actually have had these thoughts before, and not necessarily 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: in a rocking chair, but it's one of the rocking 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: chair does seem like be appropriate place to spontaneously It does, 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: and you guys will all see why by the end 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: of this podcast why a rocking chair really fits well 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: into this scenario. But yeah, I mean, this is one 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: of those things. I've got a irrational fear of spontaneous 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: fire in general. And I remember which is a good 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: thing to be afraid of? Yeah, Fosters and you know 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: you name it, um, But I remember seeing pictures of 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: the spontaneous human combustion I of as a teenager and 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: being like, Wow, this is awful and wonderful all at 22 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: the same time. I had a similar experience with it 23 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: because I feel like I either saw it on Unsolved Mysteries, 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: which did a great job about creeping me out or 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: or enthralling me about various paranormal things. Um, because Robert 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: Stack's voice was so you know, authoritative no matter what 27 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: he's talking about, aliens or or people burning up. Uh. 28 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: And then also like there was like a little book 29 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: I got in uh, like in the checkout line at 30 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: a grocery store for some reason, to avoid a human 31 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: spontaneous It was just like a condensed tone of all 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: sorts of paranormal scary things. I had something like that. 33 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: It was like an oddities thing. Yeah yeah. And it 34 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: had of course human spontaneous combustion, which is completely odd. 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: It's a weird thing, and it's back in the news 36 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: at least it has been this fall in September of 37 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven, and Irish corps Er declared that the 38 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: death of one Michael Flaherty. Flaherty was caused by spontaneous 39 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: human combustion and that was actually the first instance of 40 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: it in Ireland. It's I was reading the articles about this, 41 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: and and none of the articles actually that I read 42 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: were actually poking fun of the situation. But there is 43 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: sort of a sense of the guy saying, I don't 44 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: know what it is because it spontaneous human combustion. It's 45 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: kind of like saying, we don't know who the murder is, 46 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: but I suspect it was magic because it was either 47 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: human spontaneous combustion. Yeah. I don't know if that's not 48 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: really irish, but yes, I totally get you're saying that. 49 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: All those articles seemed to see just be him throwing 50 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: his hands up in the air and saying, Okay, it's 51 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: got to be human combustion. So now, I are you 52 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: about to share more about this particular story. Well, I 53 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: was just gonna say that it's probably worth mentioning that 54 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: it was so odd to the corner because you know, 55 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: here he has a seventy six year old man found 56 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: in his home, and uh, the damage was to his body, 57 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: which was totally burned, the ceiling above him and the 58 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: floor beneath him, and there was no other evidence of 59 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: a fire. There was no foul play. There was a 60 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: fire source, but it was a fireplace in the next room. 61 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: So that's why the corner perhaps just threw up his 62 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: hands and said spontaneous human combustion. Oh well, I ran 63 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: across another story from from two thousand eleven, and this 64 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: one was out of San Francisco, and it was reported 65 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: by CBS five. Uh, their their lead is great. A 66 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: man was hospitalized Wednesday evening with life threatening third degree burns. 67 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: All right, well, I mean that's not funny, but you 68 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: know after somehow catching fire inside of San Francisco porn store, 69 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: authorities told CBS five. So, so, basically, police officers were 70 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: on the street and they saw a flaming man come 71 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: run out of the shop suddenly, and there were firefighters 72 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: like a block away, so they able to come over 73 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: and extinguish the flames. But here's another line from there, 74 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: said arson investigators said it was not exactly clear how 75 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: the man caught fire. Police indicated he had apparently been 76 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: watching videos in private booth at the adult arcade when 77 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: the fire ignited. Well that is that is some powerful 78 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: porn perhaps, or as we have found out before, there's 79 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: very rare instances of pyromaniacs having to start fires in 80 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: order to reach a sexual climax. So maybe he was 81 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: like you know that the one out of I don't 82 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: know two million people that that needs to do that. 83 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: So he's like sexy firefighter film check, um, oily rags 84 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: and uh and a torch check. I'm ready to go, 85 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: and then he set himself off that or really powerful 86 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 1: porn right yeah. Or spontaneous human combustion really does exist, 87 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: and that's what we're going to talk about today. Um 88 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: does it? Big question mark? Yeah? And before we you know, 89 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: we we've we've started off with these cases, if you will, 90 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: of of of alleged spontaneous human combustion. But but now 91 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a step back and we're gonna look 92 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: at spot spontaneous combustion. Can it happen? Yes, spontaneous outside 93 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: of humans definitely occurs. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, our senior 94 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: video producer roxand sent it's a really interesting article about 95 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: pistachios and apparently they will spontaneous combusted the drop of 96 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: a hat because especially when they're packed really tightly for 97 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: shipping because I have to remain cool and dry. But 98 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: because they have such a large that content makes them 99 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: really flammable. So when they're packed that densely, um, they 100 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: can actually begin to heat themselves. Um, you know, the oil, 101 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: the postastia oil will start to self heat, causing spontaneous 102 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: human combustion. So this is really like struck fear into 103 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: the heart of pistachio shippers. Yeah, I had no idea. 104 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: Postachios were always like a Christmas time sort of treat 105 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: in in my household, and I never considered the possibility 106 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: that they might explode. But in the previous podcast, I 107 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: was mentioning how I wasn't sure of what I was 108 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: going to get my uncle Craig for Christmas because I 109 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,679 Speaker 1: drew his name. But but here, here are two things 110 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: to consider. A he has an irrational fear of unexploded ordinance, okay, 111 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: and and lives in the US. So it's like, it's 112 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: not like he lives in Bosnia or this is good 113 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: or South Asia or anything. Uh. And but then the 114 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: about the only thing on his wish list that that 115 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about getting is mixed nuts in the shell. 116 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking a tightly packed bag of the statuos 117 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: in the shell with a copy of that article Rock 118 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: sand Sinus. Well, just to throw him into full blown PTSD, right, yeah, well, no, 119 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: just a happy alidays. You make it sound meaner than 120 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: it is. But well, okay, I guess that you are 121 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: maybe trying to educate him flash scary. It would be 122 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: a learning slash snack experience. And we know that fear 123 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: has a really important role in learning, right, Yeah, So 124 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: there you go. Uh, I've um, you don't have to 125 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: get me a present this year, so don't worry about that. 126 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: But there are other stances. Piles of hay or straw y. Yeah, 127 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: they've been known to to spontaneous, spontaneously combust when they decomposed. 128 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: So the bacteria inside them orchestrates that decomposition process, and 129 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: that can generate enough heat to kindle a spark and 130 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: then poof which I actually saw the other day. My 131 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: my neighbor had a compost pile that was smoking really 132 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and I was like, hey, head's up, and 133 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: they were like, hey, that's pretty normal, and I was like, 134 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: all right, so just check in. You know, I didn't 135 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: want my neighbor's house to burn down because of a 136 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: pile of leaves um. And then of course the pile 137 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: of oily rags which you have mentioned, and and you'll 138 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: see this warning on various like varnishes and what have you, 139 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: where they'll say like, don't leave, don't leave the the 140 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: oil rags unattended after you do this, because it may 141 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: set fire to itself. Yeah, because what we're talking about 142 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 1: here is that oxygen is meeting an inflammatory agent and 143 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: then there there has to be a spark, right, which 144 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: sometimes can happen naturally, like, for instance, the pile of rags. 145 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: You can't start You can't start a fire without a spark, 146 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: Is that right? Is that what the boss said? Um? No, 147 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: without those there? Yes? Okay, good, he was right. Let's 148 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: just chat chat fact checking my basic physics with with 149 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: the boss. Well, yeah, you have to so mean when 150 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: we do talk about spontaneous human combustion, what what really 151 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: are we talking about? Um, well, it's it's kind of 152 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: like that case and not so much the case with 153 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: the dude running flaming out of the adult store, because 154 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: that's more just like a dude on fire. Uh. Spontaneous 155 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: human combustion as as we typically encounter it, we're talking 156 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: somebody who's been burnt down like to the bone or 157 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: through the bones, but then maybe like an entire arm 158 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: will be just laying there on the floor next to them. Yeah. 159 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: It was identified as early as or the alleged phenomenon 160 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: by a doctor Trail who claimed he had recently discovered 161 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: a peculiar kind of oil in the human blood, which 162 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: is highly inflammable. This oil is chiefly observed in the 163 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: blood of persons who have been addicted to drinking oddent spirits. 164 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: It is probably that this discovery may tend to elucidate 165 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: the hitero explosion inexplicable phenomenon of the spontaneous combustion of 166 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: human bodies. So even back in the day, they were 167 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: seeing these instances that were very odd. Again, there are 168 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: certain hallmarks that we'll talk about that make people quite quizzical. Right, 169 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: it will be someone like they're burned in their rocking 170 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: chair and the chair is still there, but their their 171 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: bones were incinerated, right, which is weird because you've got 172 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: a wood chair, a wooden chair that is not affected 173 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: at all. Right, the room will be fine, the the 174 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, the the chair, the bed will be fine. 175 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: There will be like a legrant arm that isn't burnt. 176 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: And for all. I mean, if if you were just 177 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: to open the door to all sorts of science fiction possibilities, 178 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: it looks like someone was like blasted with a sci 179 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: fi ray gun or a heat gun or something, because 180 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 1: it just like just cores right through the aliens. Again, 181 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: but we know it's it's not that visiting the elderly. 182 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: So the question arises, you know, what what could be 183 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: going on? And there are there are various theories, um 184 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: and and a number of these theories do relate to, uh, 185 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: to some of these phenomenon we were talking about, for instance, 186 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: methane um methane building up inside the intestines and then 187 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: ignited by enzymes. But what's the problem with that. The 188 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: problem is that, as you had said before, this is 189 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: largely the parts of the body that were largely affected, 190 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: or the skin and the bones, and not the internal organs. 191 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: So that would clue use into an external source of 192 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: the fire rather than internal. Yeah. And and again just 193 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: just to give you an idea of like what it 194 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: takes to incinerate a body, because most of the most 195 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: of the body is not flammable. I mean, that's that's 196 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: the thing. We're so much water, We're not pistachios. Yeah. Yeah, 197 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: there's not a lot in this the can that can 198 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: actually go up in flames. Uh. And if you even 199 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: in like a crematoria, the temperatures are generally like seven 200 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: thousand centigrade and that doesn't even destroy the bones. So 201 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: some of these other theories static electricity, the idea that 202 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: if you were walking around your carpeted home, I guess 203 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 1: we're just like if you didn't leave and you had 204 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: socks on you and you were just walking around in 205 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: circles and in circles and circles, you could eventually build 206 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: up enough of a static charge to incinerate your body, 207 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: which just seems soles. I mean, you don't need to 208 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: go out and like build a hat out of like 209 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, dryer sheaves. It just seems a little bit silly. Yes, um. 210 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: And and then there's a sort of an extrapolation of 211 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: this by a guy named Larry Arnold, who is a 212 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: self proclaimed expert on the subject and author of a blaze, 213 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: and he claims that there's a new sub atomic particle 214 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: called the pyratron that has the power to ignite the body. 215 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but that of course that's none of that 216 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: is Is it all proven? Right? That's the problem with that. 217 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: I mean, it is kind of interesting. It kind of 218 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: leads into the idea, you know, the whole equals mc 219 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: square thing about matter and energy, and well, what if 220 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: some or all of the matter in our body were 221 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: transferred into into energy? Right? Of course, the problem with that, 222 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: and this is from Dr Stephen Novella, who's a Yale 223 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: neurologists and founder of the New England Skeptics Society. He 224 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 1: points out that the mass of a single person, if 225 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: entirely converted to energy, would be much more than a 226 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: few hydrogen bombs. So so even if there there was 227 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: some sort of situation with matter transferred into energy inside 228 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: the human body, it would have to be just a 229 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: minute amount of mass, like a very minimum amount. Well, 230 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: there's no process really that could kick start this in 231 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: the first place. I mean, there's not even a theory 232 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: for this. So it's just kind of a hey, maybe 233 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: it's this is particle. But if it were to happen 234 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: to your point would be that we are basically a 235 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: bunch a bunch of walking hydrogen bombs right ready to 236 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: go off, right if if there was some sort of 237 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: process to actually kick that into demotion. Right, And then 238 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: you also have to consider that kids playing with methane, 239 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: and when I say methane mean parts and lighters like 240 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: you would see so many more UH instances a spontaneous 241 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: human combustion among twelve year old kids. And and remember, 242 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: not everybody produces large quantities of methane. Remember our our 243 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: NASA UH one of our podcasts, we maybe it is 244 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: the wearwolf theory. We're talking about the ideal human body 245 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: to go into space, and NASA found that that. You 246 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: know that there are certain individuals that produce much less 247 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: methane and some individuals who produced no methane. Right, we 248 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: find the face of the whole methane building up in 249 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: your intestines theory, right, But there is one theory that 250 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,119 Speaker 1: seems to hold true, at least in terms of explaining 251 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: how someone might burn the way that they do um 252 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: with their extremities intact and with the rest of the 253 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: room completely intact. You're talking about the whip theory, believe. Yeah, 254 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: this is one of the more interesting theories and definitely 255 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: more interesting than things like balls of lightning or or 256 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: aliens or aliens or psychic phenomena. And this is basically 257 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: the idea that the human body can, under certain circumstances, 258 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: be like a big fat candle. So yeah, I think 259 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: of a candles. You know, the wax ignites the wick 260 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: and keeps it burning right because it's got the fat, 261 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: and that fat continues to allow the candle to burn 262 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: very slowly. So essentially the human body could do the 263 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah, and there was there was actually BBC 264 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: sponsored an experiment in ninety eight, and it was pretty 265 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: great when I found It's like, normally I would not 266 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: be like, hey, there's a study from ninety eight and 267 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: be proud of it, but it was. It's a pretty 268 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: cool experiment they put together, and if you look it 269 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: up online, it's like still like there. I don't I 270 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: don't understand how some websites do their updates because they're 271 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: parts of the BBC website that have never changed, like 272 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: they're still this this ancient web design and it's pretty 273 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: awesome because you feel like you're actually going back in 274 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: time when you look at these. So anyway, this involved 275 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: this guy, Dr John Dehan of California Criminalistic Institute, and uh, 276 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: they did what anyone would do when testing out the 277 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: wick theory. They took a they used to pig in 278 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: a blanket, by which I don't mean a tasty hot 279 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: dog or vegan hot dog wrapped in some literal literally 280 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: a pig in a blank literally, it was a dead 281 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: pig and a blanket. Yeah, why did why did they 282 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: used to pick? Because I thought this really interesting. I 283 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: mean they obviously it's something that's much more ethical than 284 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: using human right, right, right. That was the number one 285 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: that they couldn't get the okay from the BBC to 286 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: burn any actual people. But also I believe it has 287 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: to do with like the the amount of fatah to human. Yeah, coomfortable. 288 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: You know the human that catches on fire and here's 289 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: a pig more or less. Um. So they wrapped this 290 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: dead pig in a blanket and then a small amount 291 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: of petrol was poured on gasoline and uh, after five 292 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: hours of continuous burning, they found that the bones were 293 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: in fact destroyed. And Dr Dehannon said, the sort of 294 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: damage here is exactly the same as that from supposed 295 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: spontaneous human combust. Okay. So so just like the candle, 296 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: like a tallow or candlewax, it allowed the burning to 297 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: happen in distant way over consistently slowly. But you know, 298 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: not in a way it's going to burn the rest 299 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: of the house down, Not in a way that's going 300 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: to necessarily gather a lot of attention. Yeah, it's just 301 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: it also explains why only part of the body, the 302 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: part that you're rich and fat, burns away, one of 303 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: the rest stays intact. Yeah all right, So what what 304 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: do all of these cases have in common? Well, they 305 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: all know each other, they did not, and they were 306 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: not all huge drinkers. Right that the special human oil 307 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: theory exactly exactly. Um. The victim is almost always completely consumed, 308 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: usually inside his or her home. Okay, so it usually 309 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: happens since someone's home. A sweet smoky smell usually accompanies 310 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: the incident. It's like like barbecue. Yes, I mean it's 311 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: a little distasteful, but yes, like barbecue. Um. And then 312 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: the extremities often stay in intact, which we've talked about. 313 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: So the head and torso maybe completely charred, but the hands, feet, 314 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: and legs are left unburned. And that's what you see 315 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: in on some of those iconic photos, you know, someone's 316 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: shoes with smoke coming out of them. Um. There are 317 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: no other signs of fire in the room other than 318 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: a greasy residue sometimes left on fronture and walls. Okay, 319 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: and not all spontaneous human combustion victims simply burst into flames, 320 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: some developed strange burns on their body which have no 321 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: obvious source, or they emanate smoke from their body when 322 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: no fire is actually present. Should be a little bit 323 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: weird to look down in your arm and see, you know, 324 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: smoke curling up right. Um. So that's what they all 325 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: share in common, and that is why it has been 326 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: such a interesting subject for a lot of people, because 327 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: that's very those are weird things, right. But I do 328 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: think that the wig theory in the pig in the 329 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: blanket experiments actually helped to support that. Uh. And it's 330 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: also key to note here that that that the throwing 331 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: them with this pig in the blanket idea is the 332 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: is the notion that it's probably not spontaneous. But the 333 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: spontaneous is just sort of I mean, it's kind of like, well, 334 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: we don't know what the causes, so must be magic 335 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: kind of a deal, where in reality, there are a 336 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: number of things in any given household that could potentially 337 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: set something upon. Right at issue here the heart of 338 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: them out it really is is it coming from an 339 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: external source or is it coming from an internal source? 340 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: And obviously is we've kind of discussed um, you know today, 341 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: it's not coming from inside. There's no pyrotron. Really, that's 342 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: igniting us. Um. Many of the cases have had victims 343 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: who were smoking, and a good amount of them have 344 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: been had been drinking as well, So it stands to 345 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: reason that they fell asleep while smoking, the embers fell 346 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: on them, ignited their clothes, and then poof, they become 347 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: a human candle. Um. So you know, that's not all 348 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: of them explained away in such a neat fashion, but 349 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: a good many of them share that sort of common right, 350 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: and the individual is elderly, as a number of cases are. 351 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you confirm or infirm in some way. I mean, 352 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: you can easily you can more easily imagine that happening 353 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: where they they're smoking or whatever, they catch the thills 354 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: on fire and stop dropping roll was not necessarily is 355 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: easily achieved. Yeah, So I mean, you know, you can 356 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: you can see when you lay it out that way, 357 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: you can see that it's pretty obvious that it probably 358 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 1: is coming from an external source. And even in the 359 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: case of the man, the seventy six year old man 360 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: who had a fire in the next room but no 361 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: fire source where he was sitting and where he died, 362 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: it's very possible that he could have gotten up, stoked 363 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: the fire and somehow ignited a piece of his clothing 364 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: without even knowing sat back down. I mean, you know, 365 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit hard to explain any of 366 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: these away, but um, to me, it seems a little 367 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: bit more at least practical to to look at it 368 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: more as an external phenomenon. And I just keep coming 369 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: back to that, right, it's got to be some sort 370 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: of external thing. And in fact, we recently circulated in 371 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: the office something called an I A which is our 372 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: initial approach for when we try to tackle a subject. 373 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: It's like, Hey, I'm writing an article about such and such. 374 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: Here's what I'm thinking. Do you guys have any other tidbits? Yeah, yeah, 375 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: pile it on. And so I know I'm sharing the 376 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: secret sauce here of what we do. But um, but 377 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm telling you because one of the things that went 378 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: out one of the I A s was Hey, what 379 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: were some of the craziest headlines of because we're gonna 380 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: do some sort of round up article about that. And 381 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: one of them that made the list or actually I 382 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: don't know if it's made the list, but was put 383 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: out there was woman's face ignites during UH standard procedure, 384 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: standard operating um procedure that she was having. I think 385 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: she was having maybe some moles removed or something. So 386 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: what happens basically because they're using so many instruments in 387 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: the operating room now that have you know, electricity that 388 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: they were you know, sometimes you know, something ignites. Unfortunately 389 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: was this woman's face. And um, it's pretty awful to 390 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: have to go into for something like that and come 391 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: out pretty burned. But again, here's another case where fire happens, 392 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: and you usually have to have a source for the 393 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: ignition right right like like like the boss said, so 394 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: here you go, there you can. Well, hey, speaking of 395 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: spontaneous combustion, I think I see the robot coming over 396 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: here with a smoking piece of listener mail. Hello Arnold. 397 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: All right, So here we hear from the Jim and 398 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: Jim rites and it says, I just finished your fire podcast. 399 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: So he's talking about the Pyromania podcast that came out 400 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. He says, I don't have 401 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: any feelings about fired that are beyond what I would 402 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: consider it the norm. My most frequent interaction was fired 403 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: with us as a boy scout, which Robert mentioned too, 404 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: there was something very alluring about it. It wasn't just 405 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: the flame itself, but our ability to master it through 406 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: the crep work in gathering materials, building the fire, lighting it, 407 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: and finally putting it out. It was always a goal 408 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: to build a fire without using newspapers or other fast starters. 409 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: We were even successful with non match techniques such as 410 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: steel matches. I've never tried tried the bow or other 411 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: pre match techniques, which, of course the once you see 412 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: in all the movies where they're the little bow, the 413 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: twine um, which I hear are very challenging. By the way, 414 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: we never pete on the fire. It really stinks up 415 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: the place. Um which, as we mentioned before, the alchemists 416 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: know the smell. We used to know the smell urine 417 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: as they were trying to turn into go after scouts. 418 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: I didn't have much direct contact with fire. A few 419 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: years ago my son tried scouting to one of the 420 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: first skills the boys learned his fire safety control. Would 421 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: build a few fires, and the sight, sounds, and smell 422 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: of a wooden camp fire brought back all kinds of memories. Um, 423 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: you didn't mention fire in Frankenstein. I only mentioned it 424 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: because I caught part of Young Frankenstein on cable this weekend, 425 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: and of course in the films, Frankenstein is a grade 426 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: of fire. Um. Yeah, I mean, I think that's one 427 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: of the really cool things about something like like bus Scouts. Um, 428 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: you know that he gets kids, even kids that are 429 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: um and maybe part of a more urban environment, gets 430 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: them out there with fire. Sure, playing with it, there's 431 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: a certain amount of playing with fire is inevitable, uh 432 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: in that situation, But you're also learning the basic control 433 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: of it and how to use it responsibly and indeed 434 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: some techniques just to start it beyond maryly A, Uh, 435 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, throwing some fire on some ladder fluid. Indeed, 436 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's exactly what I was trying to do 437 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: when I was burning ants with magnifying you Just if 438 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: if you've been in Scouts, then how many aunt lives 439 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: would have been saying to tell us? So, Hey, if 440 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 1: you have anything you would like to share with us, 441 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: be it your own history with fire, your own if 442 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: you if you have any personal experience with Spottany's human combustion, 443 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: do tell we would love to hear about that. Or 444 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: if we left out any of hair brained theories. 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