Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Katty and He Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 1: I miss when my kids were younger in Saint Patrick's
Speaker 1: Day was a big deal and they'd wake up in
Speaker 1: the morning and a leprechaun had snuck into our home
Speaker 1: and your native green in the toilet and left a
Speaker 1: trail of glitter.
Speaker 2: Behind for some reason.
Speaker 3: I'm not exactly sure what went on there, but they
Speaker 3: loved it. It was really, really fun.
Speaker 1: We had leprechaun traps, which is cruel, yes, and really brutal. Yes,
Speaker 1: they'll always get away. They would always get away. They
Speaker 1: would take the gold chocolate coins and get away, the
Speaker 1: clever little bastards. We caught one once. He still works
Speaker 1: for us. I work it the green. Did you read
Speaker 1: about that? You an official who's just prosecuted for slavery? No, yeah,
Speaker 1: later on in the show or in the hour. We
Speaker 1: don't have time now, but yeah, but the green urine
Speaker 1: was a real Armstrong innovation.
Speaker 2: We did not do that at my house.
Speaker 3: We heard it from some babysitter or whatever. But yeah,
Speaker 3: he got that glitter like in footprints somehow, and disgusting
Speaker 3: all the way around. But anyway, happy to see Patrick's day.
Speaker 1: Oh I should keep moving, but me incontinence is bothering me.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll just stop and relieve myself. Oh boy.
Speaker 1: So this is one of the most fascinating things I've
Speaker 1: read in the last several years. It is shockingly from
Speaker 1: the Atlantic, which is just suffocatingly lefty these days. It
Speaker 1: was written by a fellow by the name of Yannie
Speaker 1: apple Bomb why Americans stopped moving houses and why that's
Speaker 1: a very big problem. Actually Yannie might be a woman.
Speaker 1: I don't know, probably is. But the subtitle of it
Speaker 1: is how Progressives Froze the American Dream, And I was
Speaker 1: surprised to see that on the cover, but I dove in.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit you with parts of it. Jack comment
Speaker 1: like as much as you like, obviously. So the lead
Speaker 1: is the idea that people should be able to choose
Speaker 1: their own communities instead of being stuck where they are born.
Speaker 1: Is a distinctly American innovation. It is the foundation for
Speaker 1: the country's prosperity and democracy, and it just may be
Speaker 1: America's most profound contribution.
Speaker 2: To the world. I have been saying this for years.
Speaker 1: You have in California, the Midwest, all kinds of places
Speaker 1: I've lived, was settled by people who thought they could
Speaker 1: get a better deal here. No society has ever been
Speaker 1: as mobile as the United States once was. No society
Speaker 1: has even come close. In the nineteenth century, friends, the
Speaker 1: heyday of American mobility. Roughly a third of all Americans
Speaker 1: changed addresses each year.
Speaker 2: Wow a third each year.
Speaker 1: They quote a couple of commentators of the day, the
Speaker 1: American is devoured with a passion for locomotions.
Speaker 2: At one French, he cannot stay in one place.
Speaker 1: Americans moved far more often, over longer distances, and to
Speaker 1: greater advantage than did people in the lands from which
Speaker 1: they had come. They described how in Europe that you
Speaker 1: just you stayed on the land, you stayed in the town.
Speaker 1: People were very suspicious of outsiders.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that.
Speaker 1: But over the past fifty years, this engine of American
Speaker 1: opportunity has stopped working. Americans become less likely to move
Speaker 1: from one state to another, to move within a state,
Speaker 1: or even to switch residences within a city. In the
Speaker 1: nineteen sixties, now remember it was about one in three
Speaker 1: in the eighteen hundreds. The nineteen sixties, about one out
Speaker 1: of every five Americans moved in any given year, down
Speaker 1: from a one in three in the nineteenth century, but
Speaker 1: a frenetic rate nonetheless, so one in five in the
Speaker 1: nineteen sixties. In twenty twenty three, only one in thirteen
Speaker 1: Americans moved. That's unbelievable, the sharp decline in geog You
Speaker 1: go ahead, sorry. Joe and I both moved a lot
Speaker 1: for our radio career, and I don't think it's shocking
Speaker 1: to say the success of this project.
Speaker 2: Depended on it.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't it have never happened without the willingness to like
Speaker 3: move to that town, than to that town, to then
Speaker 3: that town for opportunity.
Speaker 1: And probably it's a good time for a disclaimer. We
Speaker 1: both were also raised by people who saw their fortune
Speaker 1: in various ways and moved as necessary for career. My
Speaker 1: dad was in the military for a while and then
Speaker 1: in the publishing industry, and we moved to fair Mounta
Speaker 1: until we finally settled in Chicagoland. But so we we
Speaker 1: can feel and appreciate that side of the argument, not
Speaker 1: that it's an argument for see somebody who's lived, you know, hometown,
Speaker 1: Mom and dad and the cousins are always around, you
Speaker 1: have giant Sunday dinners together on that sort of thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get a tear in my eye thinking about how
Speaker 1: wonderful that would be. But like I've said many times,
Speaker 1: everything has a cast and a benefit. You just have
Speaker 1: to decide, you know what's for you anyway. Reading on
Speaker 1: from Applebaum's piece, the sharp decline in geographic mobility is
Speaker 1: the single most important social change in the past half century,
Speaker 1: although other shifts have attracted far more attention. In that
Speaker 1: same span, fewer Americans have started new businesses and fewer
Speaker 1: Americans have switched jobs. From nineteen eighty five to twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: the share of people who have become entrepreneurs fell by half.
Speaker 2: Wow, that is seriously troubling.
Speaker 1: And then he gets into more Americans end up worse
Speaker 1: off than their parents. I think part of that is
Speaker 1: coming down from the high of the post WW two
Speaker 1: American dominance that was just going to be hard to avoid.
Speaker 1: But then he gets into how church membership is down
Speaker 1: by a third since nineteen seventy, as is the share
Speaker 1: Americans who socialized several times a week. Membership in any
Speaker 1: kind of group is half down by half.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, the earth rates keep falling.
Speaker 3: One interesting aspect of the not being tied to your
Speaker 3: local church and not socializing, seems like that would make
Speaker 3: you more mobile as opposed to less mobile. If you're
Speaker 3: socializing and have a social network, that would be hard
Speaker 3: to leave behind. If you don't socialize, what the hell
Speaker 3: do you care? Go to the next down? They got
Speaker 3: a better job.
Speaker 1: The other side of that coin is really interesting, and
Speaker 1: we were going to get to that in a bit,
Speaker 1: but I'll skip to it. And I can relate to
Speaker 1: this because Judy and I relocated four years ago something
Speaker 1: like that, and it makes you more likely to want
Speaker 1: to go out and meet people. Oh interesting, put up
Speaker 1: with the discomfort of going to a new church or
Speaker 1: joining a club or you know, just for me, jumping
Speaker 1: on a tea time that had one opening and introducing
Speaker 1: myself and meeting people because you want to make connections.
Speaker 2: And indeed that's what they found sociologically. That's interesting. You know,
Speaker 2: it's kind of counterintuitive.
Speaker 1: It made people more sociable the fact that we moved
Speaker 1: all the time. And then there's an interesting political aspect
Speaker 1: to this, and I don't want to get on a
Speaker 1: partisan thing because that's not what this about.
Speaker 2: This is about. I will just say that people who.
Speaker 1: Felt anger and frustration at their financial situation tended to
Speaker 1: vote more for Trump than Hillary, for instance, But the
Speaker 1: number of those people who lived within a two hour
Speaker 1: drive of where they grew up or had never even
Speaker 1: left their hometown was way more huge.
Speaker 2: It's a huge gap.
Speaker 1: The number of people who said I'm unhappy with my
Speaker 1: financial life in my career, they were wildly disproportionately people
Speaker 1: who had not relocated to seek their fortune.
Speaker 3: No, I don't want to make this partisan at all,
Speaker 3: because I don't think it needs to be. But we
Speaker 3: have been saying on this show for years, you know,
Speaker 3: broadcasting out of California, people talking about how expensive it
Speaker 3: is to live in San Francisco.
Speaker 2: Well, then move some place cheaper. That's what I always did.
Speaker 3: If I couldn't afford to live somewhere, I moved some
Speaker 3: place cheaper, rather than expect the government or somebody to
Speaker 3: come in and make it cheaper so you can stay.
Speaker 2: Why why do.
Speaker 3: Other taxpayers owe you the ability to stay in a
Speaker 3: particular down That's.
Speaker 1: Nuts, right, right, And just you know, you live your
Speaker 1: life the way you see fit, and I will not
Speaker 1: judge you unless you come.
Speaker 2: With heart at tax money and I'll tell you to
Speaker 2: your jack.
Speaker 1: I mean, we were very, very successful our first job
Speaker 1: together in Wichita, but we knew economically speaking, we had
Speaker 1: topped out and needed to go, you know, seek our
Speaker 1: fortune elsewhere.
Speaker 2: But a lot of people do that.
Speaker 1: Anyway, this I wanted to get to this part and
Speaker 1: then there's more on the general topic.
Speaker 2: To come and trust me. It's so interesting.
Speaker 1: You've heard the expression moving day, right, I mean people
Speaker 1: throw it around a little bit.
Speaker 2: It's funny.
Speaker 1: It's a term in golf. It's like the midway point
Speaker 1: of a tournament. You got a chance to move off,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And so I'm familiar with the term
Speaker 1: in that way. How do we How did I not
Speaker 1: know this? How did all of us not know this?
Speaker 1: The great holiday of America, when it was so nomadic,
Speaker 1: was called Moving Day, observed by renters and landlords throughout
Speaker 1: the nineteenth century and well into the twentieth with a
Speaker 1: giant game of musical houses. Moving Day, they write, was
Speaker 1: a festival of new hopes and new beginnings, of shattered
Speaker 1: dreams and shattered crockery, quite as recognized today as Christmas.
Speaker 1: Or the fourth of July, wrote a Chicago newspaper in
Speaker 1: eighteen eighty two.
Speaker 3: I as much as I read history, have never come
Speaker 3: across this.
Speaker 2: I know it's crazy.
Speaker 1: It was primarily an urban thing, although many rural communities
Speaker 1: and suburbans kind of had their own sort, and it varied.
Speaker 1: It might be April first or October first, but May
Speaker 1: first was by far the most popular. Literally everybody who
Speaker 1: is renting a home, and the vast majority of people rented.
Speaker 1: Home ownership was way way lower than it is right now.
Speaker 1: The vast majority of people would move on Moving Day
Speaker 1: every year, or almost every year. Nothing quite so astonished
Speaker 1: visitors from abroad as the spectacle of thousands upon thousands
Speaker 1: of people picking up and swapping homes in a single day.
Speaker 1: For months before moving day, Americans prepared for the occasion.
Speaker 1: Tenants gave notice to the landlords, a received word of
Speaker 1: the new rent. Then followed a frenzied period of house hunting,
Speaker 1: as people, generally women, scouted for a new place to
Speaker 1: live that would in some respect improve upon the old quote.
Speaker 1: They want more room, or they want as much room
Speaker 1: for less rent, or they want a better location, or
Speaker 1: they want some convenience not heretofore enjoyed. The Topeka Daily
Speaker 1: Capital summarized, these were months of general anticipation. Cities and
Speaker 1: towns were alive with excitement. So if you've ever seen
Speaker 1: one of those street scenes from back in the day
Speaker 1: where everybody's got like their junk piled on wagons, that
Speaker 1: was moving day.
Speaker 3: And the point of putting that in the article, obviously
Speaker 3: is to just point out that the cultural attitude about
Speaker 3: moving was so much different. And as we've said, every
Speaker 3: part of this country, people coming out west, starting in
Speaker 3: the very very eastern part of the country, and the
Speaker 3: colonies and spreading. Do you know when when the wild
Speaker 3: West was Ohio and Kentucky and then going further and
Speaker 3: further for a better opportunity. And now, not to be
Speaker 3: too disparaging of various industries and people, because I understand,
Speaker 3: like Joe said, I fully understand why it'd be awesome
Speaker 3: to stay in your hometown where you grow up and
Speaker 3: have your kids go to the same school and you
Speaker 3: know all your family and friends. I god, I would
Speaker 3: love that. But the idea that coal mining goes away
Speaker 3: and you're gonna stay in the same dead town that's
Speaker 3: never gonna.
Speaker 2: Come back is nuts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nuts in terms of the history of this country,
Speaker 1: or you know, working for General Motors in whatever town
Speaker 1: in Michigan or whatever.
Speaker 3: If something's gone away, then you gotta move to a
Speaker 3: different town where the new industry is. That's what everybody
Speaker 3: has done forever in this country. And yeah, pointing out
Speaker 3: that that's gone away, and now we're like Europe, where
Speaker 3: you do plan to stay in the town your family
Speaker 3: is from for generations, which again I understand the appeal.
Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One charming anecdote from this which I can't find, but
Speaker 1: I can paragraph a paraphrase. They mentioned that in Europe, indeed,
Speaker 1: you stay in the same place, very insulur, and that
Speaker 1: newcomers would simply cause a more subdivision of the goods
Speaker 1: and services and land available there. So newcomers were like
Speaker 1: a bad thing, whereas in America it was such a
Speaker 1: constant that the idea of a stranger went from a
Speaker 1: threat to literally Americans would say, hello, stranger, you're not
Speaker 1: from around here, are you? And it was not a
Speaker 1: term of suspicion, it was a term of greeting. That's
Speaker 1: really interesting, and I don't think good for the country.
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Speaker 3: It, hang around longer. Maybe it, you know, grows on
Speaker 3: you like a fungus or something. It's a little different. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we got this sex supposed to be. It's not purpose.
Speaker 3: We got this text since it's Saint Patrick's Day. What
Speaker 3: were your old on air names on Saint Patrick's Day?
Speaker 3: We were patio furniture, and then what was the other one?
Speaker 3: Patio furniture and Pat mcgroin. Pat mcgro was not in
Speaker 3: good taste at all, and I disapproved. Now you need
Speaker 3: to jump out of the heros. No time for fun.
Speaker 1: I have scholarly studies of American moving patterns to finish.
Speaker 2: Ashually.
Speaker 1: We'll never finish because like everything in the Atlantic, this
Speaker 1: is forty thousand words long. But it's so interesting if
Speaker 1: you're just tuning in and grabbed the previous segment via
Speaker 1: podcast Armstrong and getting on demand. But so, who's to
Speaker 1: blame for the change in American life that we used
Speaker 1: to move all the time and pursue our fortune, just
Speaker 1: everybody did all the time, except for you, like your
Speaker 1: old money Easterners. Well, interestingly, you can name I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you can blame a woman named Jane Jacobs who was
Speaker 1: a writer and thinker in the twentieth century, And in
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty one she wrote a book called The Death
Speaker 1: and Life of Great American Cities. And ironically, she and
Speaker 1: her husband had bought a place in the West Village
Speaker 1: in New York and changed a storefront and apartment into
Speaker 1: a big house, and so she wrote this incredibly eloquent
Speaker 1: book that was a huge hit about how cool cities were,
Speaker 1: how the a shop was right there on the corner
Speaker 1: and they would be delivering laundry, and people would stop
Speaker 1: on the street corners.
Speaker 2: And they were just very alive.
Speaker 1: And she didn't realize that the reason they were really
Speaker 1: alive is that cities were constantly reinventing themselves to deal
Speaker 1: with whatever the needs were of the humans at that time.
Speaker 1: Like if you had huge quote unquote tenements, remember we
Speaker 1: heard how terrible tenements are. Well, those that was cheap
Speaker 1: housing for recent immigrants, and people would sink their roots
Speaker 1: in America, get their job skills up, get a better job,
Speaker 1: and leave the tenements, and new immigrants would come into them.
Speaker 1: But so she fell in love with a particular moment
Speaker 1: of time in New York, and ignoring really her own premise,
Speaker 1: she and her neighbors, who are college educated, really smart people,
Speaker 1: figured out, Hey, we can badger and lobby city hall
Speaker 1: so that nothing can ever change these neighborhoods that we
Speaker 1: think are so great just the way they are, And
Speaker 1: nimbiism was born, and was then and is now mostly
Speaker 1: progressive people with money saying nothing can change because I
Speaker 1: like it the way it is, And then the writer
Speaker 1: of this piece gets into solutions for it. But it
Speaker 1: has a great deal to do with falling out of
Speaker 1: love with stability in cities and urban areas in particular,
Speaker 1: and falling out of love with bureaucrats deciding how everything
Speaker 1: should look and coming up with master plans, because the
Speaker 1: free market of people coming and going and moving and
Speaker 1: buying and selling and renting it moves far, far too quickly,
Speaker 1: especially these days.
Speaker 3: If you didn't hear those stats, Joe had last segment
Speaker 3: about how much it has changed in a century or
Speaker 3: less of people being willing to move to seek their fortune.
Speaker 3: It's shocking. I mean, so that's got to have huge
Speaker 3: ramifications to you know, if you're worried about inequality or
Speaker 3: inequity or whatever you want to call it, If you're
Speaker 3: going to stay in some town where the industry died
Speaker 3: and you're gonna stay there anyway, you ain't gonna do well.
Speaker 1: Right, Right, It's amazing to me people can't see that,
Speaker 1: or they don't care, and or we've designed a system
Speaker 1: where they can they just get on welfare or disability
Speaker 1: is a right, huge aspect of this, right.
Speaker 3: And if politicians would stop going to those towns and
Speaker 3: saying we're gonna bring back the coal industry and that
Speaker 3: sort of thing, that would help, right Armstrong.
Speaker 1: And Geddy, I would start pushing time running down densely.
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Speaker 2: Got a chance, starta buyer, no check down the seven
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Speaker 2: young time backson Co. Yeah, you're way back to that one, Hanson.
Speaker 2: That was awesome.
Speaker 3: When North Carolina State upset Houston way back in the
Speaker 3: day Jesus forty years ago, anyway, March madness getting underway.
Speaker 3: Brackets came out yesterday, and if you're if anybody's betting
Speaker 3: in the office, I will be calling the FBI.
Speaker 2: And I do not put up with a legal gambling.
Speaker 3: So we didn't talk government shut down last week because
Speaker 3: we like having listeners and we've had the experience of
Speaker 3: they never amount to anything. Most of the time they
Speaker 3: get settled before the deadline, and even if they don't,
Speaker 3: whatever last a couple hours or a day or whatever.
Speaker 2: Anyway, the Beltway is.
Speaker 1: Like a big high school and the shutdown wrangling is
Speaker 1: almost always like high school gossip gets settled one way
Speaker 1: or another, and yeah, you're right, But the interesting is
Speaker 1: no one's life significantly.
Speaker 3: The interesting one on this is that it really revealed
Speaker 3: the problems the Democratic Party has.
Speaker 2: We mentioned earlier.
Speaker 3: The NBC poll that came out had Trump at the
Speaker 3: highest approval rating he's ever had in the NBC poll,
Speaker 3: while the Democratic Party has got the lowest approval rating
Speaker 3: it has ever had in polling. And the split was
Speaker 3: evident over the weekend because Chuck Schumer, the Democratic leader
Speaker 3: of the Democrats in the Senate, came out and said
Speaker 3: we got to vote for this thing now the government
Speaker 3: to be bad, which I think he's right about. But
Speaker 3: I think I think he was on the cright side.
Speaker 3: But the left wing of the party hated it. Anyway.
Speaker 2: Here's a little other reporting from NBC on.
Speaker 1: That divided Senate Democrats advance a Republican spending bill to
Speaker 1: avoid a government shutdown, but spark an intra party battle
Speaker 1: in the process.
Speaker 4: Today was a bad day for the country, and I
Speaker 4: won't sugarcoat it. Today was also a bad day for
Speaker 4: the Democratic Party. In this case, CR stands for complete resignation.
Speaker 5: I think there is a deep sense of outrage and betrayal.
Speaker 3: It's an unacceptable, unconsonable, and un American spending bill.
Speaker 2: Is it time for new leadership in the Senate? Next question?
Speaker 2: So it's interesting.
Speaker 3: So Democrats are very, very unpopular, and you had their
Speaker 3: annoying representatives there in Adam Schiff. I met representatives colloquially,
Speaker 3: not like literally, because Adam Shiff is the senator.
Speaker 2: Sure, he's a senator.
Speaker 1: You got Adam Schiff and AOC really unhappy with the
Speaker 1: fact that Democrats went along with it. You to talk
Speaker 1: about not reading the room, right, no kidding, And but
Speaker 1: the big one there at the end.
Speaker 2: That was Joaquem Jefferies.
Speaker 3: He's the leader Democratic leader in the House, and we'll
Speaker 3: be Speaker of the House if the Democrats take it back.
Speaker 3: Ask should there be new leadership in the center and
Speaker 3: in the Senate? Should they get rid of Schumer? And
Speaker 3: he said, next question, leadership criticizing each other in the same.
Speaker 2: Party is not common. Is that the way you took that?
Speaker 2: That's the way I took it. Yeah, you didn't.
Speaker 1: Take it right.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. It could also mean that's a
Speaker 2: stupid question.
Speaker 3: Next question, Oh, interesting, And certainly the way they presented
Speaker 3: it on mainstream media, which leans left, it was him
Speaker 3: being unhappy. That's why they put it in there with
Speaker 3: the other clips. This is what more reasonable. John Fetterman said,
Speaker 3: what leverage do we have?
Speaker 4: Democrats keep showing up at every night fight with a kesserole.
Speaker 2: Whatever that means.
Speaker 3: So, but John Fetterman, along with Chuck Schumer, just closer
Speaker 3: to mainstream Democrats who understand where their leverage is, or
Speaker 3: where America is or whatever the idea of shutting down
Speaker 3: the government. Chuck Schumer actually made the argument, we don't
Speaker 3: have the clip. I guess, but Chuck Schumer got up
Speaker 3: there and said, look, we're all we're gonna do is
Speaker 3: empowered Doge. If we shut down the government and put
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of government workers out of work, we're
Speaker 3: kind of just like boostering Doge, which we claim were against,
Speaker 3: which I think he's right politically.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm yeah, Hey, Katie, help me with this. What
Speaker 1: if you showed up to the knife fight with like
Speaker 1: a scalding.
Speaker 2: Hot cast arrived, I think, well, and.
Speaker 1: Like jammed it in somebody's face because they think you
Speaker 1: are going to serve them food.
Speaker 2: I'm picturing a knife fight, which is weird.
Speaker 3: I would I rather have another knife so I get
Speaker 3: in a fight with somebody they got a knife. Would
Speaker 3: I rather have a knife myself or a hot cast
Speaker 3: rolen't know.
Speaker 2: Try to stab somebody with hot cast role all over
Speaker 2: your face. It's probably hard.
Speaker 1: Well, right, you got it in your eyes and everything
Speaker 1: I see. I think Fetterman may be too hasty in
Speaker 1: his criticisms. Anyway, back to you, Umm, let's hear another
Speaker 1: One'll go ahead. I was just going to say it
Speaker 1: is yet another example, and there's quite a list growing
Speaker 1: up of any moderate Democrat who says, hey, folks, were
Speaker 1: off track.
Speaker 2: We got to come back over here.
Speaker 1: Just getting a hell kicked out of them. But you
Speaker 1: know the ever loud progressive wing.
Speaker 3: Here's former R and C chairman Wright's prebus in his
Speaker 3: reading of the current Democratic Party.
Speaker 4: Well, the Democrats have had two horrific weeks. They've got
Speaker 4: no leader, they've got no movement. The only thing I
Speaker 4: have got is Trump the derangement syndrome. It's the only
Speaker 4: thing that brings them together. And the only thing they
Speaker 4: got out of this week was well, who's going to primary?
Speaker 4: Chuck Schumer? What are we all about? AOC and Bernie
Speaker 4: Sanders are the only people in their entire party that
Speaker 4: can get a crowd of over twenty to show up.
Speaker 4: So the only thing they are, I mean, they're afraid
Speaker 4: of Trump. Trump owns them. And it was a total
Speaker 4: slam dunk for the Republican Party.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3: Well until somebody emerges. That is the problem that if
Speaker 3: I were a Democrat, I'd want somebody to emerge who's
Speaker 3: closer to the center.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's an interesting conundrum they're in, though, because his
Speaker 1: previous puts it so charmingly. The only people who can
Speaker 1: get more than twenty people to show up, or a
Speaker 1: couple of socialist crackpots, one as old as the hills
Speaker 1: and the other one quite attractive but doesn't have two
Speaker 1: thoughts to ro up together. And so if you're on
Speaker 1: the energized Vocal fundraising Instagram follower left of the left,
Speaker 1: you're thinking, wait a minute, you're telling me to defer
Speaker 1: to these these people in the center.
Speaker 2: They're nobody's they've got no energy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Republicans are going to win until the
Speaker 3: Democratic Party understands, finally, completely understands that Twitter is not
Speaker 3: real life and they're.
Speaker 2: Not there yet.
Speaker 1: And it's just it's absolutely amazing to me. I was
Speaker 1: listening to the National Review podcast over the weekend and
Speaker 1: they were making the point of.
Speaker 2: How Trump sucks.
Speaker 3: So many of these you know, vocal get so much
Speaker 3: attention activists into doing what he wants them to do.
Speaker 3: So the Trump administration arresting that Columbia student, whether that's
Speaker 3: legal or illegal, or right or wrong free speech wise,
Speaker 3: you got your the AOC crowd trying to raise this
Speaker 3: guy up like he's some sort of hero, and that
Speaker 3: ain't gonna.
Speaker 2: Work with more most of the country style.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you got most of the Country saying he
Speaker 1: ain't no hero to me, sounds like he's Prohomas.
Speaker 2: So once again the Democrats just taking the bait.
Speaker 1: And one more thought a frequent correspondent, Paolo Rights and
Speaker 1: if you have want to drop us an email, feel
Speaker 1: free mail bag at Armstrong and getty dot com. It's
Speaker 1: a number of examples of what I was talking about before,
Speaker 1: how the left, part of the left is just kicking
Speaker 1: the hell out of anybody who tries to be even
Speaker 1: moderately moderate, and it's He quotes Michelle Goldberg, who's just
Speaker 1: a wildly left columnist for the New York Times and obnoxious.
Speaker 1: But it has the columns about Gavin Newsom saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: dudes in women's sports is not cool, it's unfair, And
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2: You all heard about that, I'm sure, on that podcast
Speaker 2: a while back.
Speaker 1: But then she says it was especially he'll advise for
Speaker 1: Newsom to roll out as pivot on trans women in sports,
Speaker 1: it's dudes. In a conversation with Kirk, a man once
Speaker 1: described trans people as blah blah blah. As a matter
Speaker 1: of both political expediency and simple honesty, Democrats should be
Speaker 1: able to acknowledge that it's unfair to expect elite female
Speaker 1: athletes to compete against trans women who've gone through male puberty. Okay, wow,
Speaker 1: all right, I appreciate hearing that from Michelle Goldberg.
Speaker 2: But here's where it gets interesting.
Speaker 1: But at the time when the Trump administration is single
Speaker 1: trans people out for persecution, what now?
Speaker 2: Right? That's why Rose moved to Ireland.
Speaker 1: Partially, Democrats need to couple the recognition of physical difference
Speaker 1: with a broader defense of trans rights. And as Powell
Speaker 1: points out, she's saying Trump is so horrible, we mustn't
Speaker 1: agree with him even when he's right, and we should
Speaker 1: continue letting men beat up on women, on the girls
Speaker 1: on the sports field, lest we agree with Trump on
Speaker 1: anything that is Trump derangement Sentrome. Right.
Speaker 3: Well, I think Gavin Newsom recognizes that the John Fetterman
Speaker 3: Bill Maher party could win elections. The AOC Elizabeth Warren
Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders party cannot.
Speaker 2: Right, in spite of their energy and fundraising ability and
Speaker 2: the rest of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ad a, uh got to do a cherish I
Speaker 3: guess it doesn't have to be father.
Speaker 2: I was going to say father tradition, but I suppose
Speaker 2: moms do it too.
Speaker 3: Working on teaching my son to drive as he turned
Speaker 3: fifteen a couple of weeks ago, and at fifteen and
Speaker 3: a half. Go at fifteen and a half you can
Speaker 3: start driving. So we were out driving around on County
Speaker 3: Road yesterday, which I'm sure is highly illegal. But a story,
Speaker 3: like all.
Speaker 1: Stories told on the Armstrong e Getty Show, is entirely fictional.
Speaker 2: I don't even have kids, but he was out driving around.
Speaker 2: But I gotta I gotta come up with a reasonable
Speaker 2: vehicle for him to drive. We don't.
Speaker 3: I don't own anything that's like a regular car, so
Speaker 3: it's not going to do any good to learn how
Speaker 3: to drive like ridiculous Tesla's because Elon doesn't like various things.
Speaker 3: There's no turn signal stick, for instance, so you don't
Speaker 3: learn how to do that, and I don't know if
Speaker 3: what happens to you just.
Speaker 2: Turn the wheel in the signal.
Speaker 3: There's a button you press, which is very unhandy. I
Speaker 3: much rather have the stick. Yeah, it's annoying. Don't mess
Speaker 3: with stuff that works.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I.
Speaker 3: Know Elon, but anyway, but he's really really excited about it.
Speaker 3: And you know, as you do, as most people do,
Speaker 3: I mean, I can still remember.
Speaker 2: Drivers in and learning to drive myself. It's just I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know if it's.
Speaker 1: The freedom or the fact that you're you know, in
Speaker 1: control of a big, giant machine, or it makes you
Speaker 1: feel like an adult.
Speaker 2: But I mean, it's just intoxicating or what's for me?
Speaker 1: Well, right, And I'm not the least bit surprised by
Speaker 1: this because we're talking about your kid. But I think
Speaker 1: it's notable that your kid likes girls, wants to date them,
Speaker 1: and wants a driver's license, because that is.
Speaker 2: Far from universal.
Speaker 1: You know, in the modern day, nobody couples and kids
Speaker 1: don't bother getting their license until years later.
Speaker 3: If I don't, I don't think I've done anything culturally
Speaker 3: in my home.
Speaker 2: I don't know. But he's had a couple of girlfriends
Speaker 2: and he can't wait to drive.
Speaker 1: So well, you're at least way for toward the free
Speaker 1: range parents ideal than a lot of folks are these days.
Speaker 1: But do you think those two things are very tied
Speaker 1: very closely?
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, you think those are tied together.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's a love of adventure, tolerance for risk, all
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. You've let him make mistakes and
Speaker 1: you know, get lost and find his way, find himself back.
Speaker 4: Yes, Michael, I just remember scaring the hell out of
Speaker 4: my dad the first couple of times I went by
Speaker 4: the way.
Speaker 3: Well, it depends what you're driving. I learned to drive
Speaker 3: in my parents station wagging. I was trying to tell
Speaker 3: my son this, that one when I was fourteen, which
Speaker 3: is when you learned to drive. I was like four
Speaker 3: foot eleven for one thing, and they didn't You didn't
Speaker 3: have seats you could raise up back then. So I'm
Speaker 3: sitting down low and I can see nothing but a giant,
Speaker 3: giant hood. Had no idea where I was on the road,
Speaker 3: just wow, hood and sky was all I could see.
Speaker 2: I need a phone book for you to sit down. Oh,
Speaker 2: how emasculating? Is that?
Speaker 1: The phone book the booster seat of the sixties and seventies.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, it's insane that I was driving at fourteen or
Speaker 1: anyone was just insane.
Speaker 2: Well, it's insane. Well every parent knows this. It seems
Speaker 2: insane your.
Speaker 3: Sixteen year old is driving because they still seem like
Speaker 3: little kids do It's like what and.
Speaker 2: Or idiots not speaking about your kids.
Speaker 1: Certainly, On the other hand, you've got the if I
Speaker 1: have to drive you back and forth to school one
Speaker 1: more time this week, I'm gonna go crazy for band
Speaker 1: or sports or whatever the heck it is.
Speaker 2: Oh, the astronauts are coming home.
Speaker 3: Finally we got a little We got some news on that,
Speaker 3: which is that's because of you on right.
Speaker 1: Uh well, yeah, he successfully got to rocket up and
Speaker 1: soon back.
Speaker 3: We hope we bombed the crap out of some people. Also,
Speaker 3: we could give you the update on that, among other things.
Speaker 2: Stay here, Army Strong.
Speaker 5: A twenty eight hour journey through space and a reunion
Speaker 5: months in the Make It NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore and
Speaker 5: Sanita Williams and the rest of Crew nine hugged their relief.
Speaker 5: It comes after a picture perfect launch Friday night from
Speaker 5: the Candid Center in Florida, SpaceX Crew ten climbing through
Speaker 5: the skies above a Falcon nine rocket, traveling it over
Speaker 5: seventeen thousand miles per hour to the ISS. Among those
Speaker 5: waiting for them Briche and Sunny, the two test pilots
Speaker 5: for Boeing Starliner Or, whose mission aboard the ISS turned
Speaker 5: from ten days to over nine months. But Sonny and
Speaker 5: the rest of Crew nine one step closer to their
Speaker 5: return to Earth.
Speaker 3: A ten day space mission that turned into nine months.
Speaker 3: That's something, Well, I don't care if it's a golf
Speaker 3: trip or a fishing trip or a European river cruise.
Speaker 3: If I sign up for ten days and it turns
Speaker 3: into nine months, I'm probably a little annoyed. Yeah, although
Speaker 3: they've been quoted many times as saying, you know what,
Speaker 3: We're sorry, our families have had to adjust, but this
Speaker 3: is fun and interesting for us.
Speaker 2: You know, I believe them. Yeah, I'd be upsides and downsides.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, heck of a deal. Hope they get home,
Speaker 1: though certainly I expect they will. So we were talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, the left kicking anybody, any Democrat who comes
Speaker 1: up is even reasonably moderate, And I found this on
Speaker 1: I just came across this seconds after we and in
Speaker 1: last segment. The feedback from Gaviy Newsom's podcast is disastrous.
Speaker 1: His favorability amongst liberals has declined from forty six percent
Speaker 1: to thirty percent. Republicans, on the other hand, having listened
Speaker 1: to the podcast, overwhelmingly viewed him as insincere, calling him
Speaker 1: fake and pandering, and his letter.
Speaker 3: Favorite because he was fake and pandering that might have
Speaker 3: led people to that conclusion.
Speaker 2: Thank you for that analysis. I agree with it completely.
Speaker 1: His net favorability favorability rating dropped from plus four to
Speaker 1: minus six, a ten point swing in the wrong direction. Wow,
Speaker 1: almost instantaneously.
Speaker 3: First of all, uh, that's got to be an interesting
Speaker 3: warning shot to anybuddy who wants to raise their head
Speaker 3: up as a moderate Democrat out there, get it lopped
Speaker 3: off by the woke side. Apparently, he also might have
Speaker 3: the problem. He might be like a Hillary Clinton, where
Speaker 3: the more people are exposed to him, the more they
Speaker 3: don't like him.
Speaker 2: Just yes for some reason, yes, well yes, not like yes.
Speaker 1: Right, And like a variety of Republican governors who I
Speaker 1: liked very much through the years who decided to run
Speaker 1: for president, it turned out, especially in a heavily Republican state,
Speaker 1: you felt like they had the chops to run from
Speaker 1: president for president. That's because they never really had to
Speaker 1: show their chops. Gavin Newsom has risen up as a rich, powerful,
Speaker 1: connected guy in a one party state.
Speaker 2: And indeed, you know, as he indicated, the more you
Speaker 2: hear from him, the less you like him. So keep talking.
Speaker 3: Gavy isn't making a bracket anywhere Michael.
Speaker 2: I'll bet our boss does. I'll bet the boss Boss does. Yeah,
Speaker 2: not that I'm aware of, but I would check there
Speaker 2: the Big Boss. Yeah. I'm going to gamble heavily. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna get involved. Fill up the bike. I know.
Speaker 3: I didn't follow hardly at all this year college basketball,
Speaker 3: which probably makes it more likely that I would win
Speaker 3: than any other year when I watch lots of games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with players switching teams every single year, and lots
Speaker 1: of freshmen playing, and lots of grad students who just
Speaker 1: don't feel like they could make the NBA so they
Speaker 1: just play well into their late twenties.
Speaker 3: And plus just in general, the guy at the workplace
Speaker 3: who wears a jersey to work every casual Friday is
Speaker 3: usually the guy that doesn't win well.
Speaker 2: And it's more true than ever.
Speaker 1: They're going to be wild upsets every single day this year.
Speaker 1: So yeah, close your eyes and fill in your bracket.
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