WEBVTT - They're Clever Little Bastards 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:06.160 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:10.200 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty. 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:17.239 Armstrong and Katty and He Armstrong and Yetty. 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:27.680 I miss when my kids were younger in Saint Patrick's 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:29.319 Day was a big deal and they'd wake up in 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:32.760 the morning and a leprechaun had snuck into our home 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:36.040 and your native green in the toilet and left a 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:37.839 trail of glitter. 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:38.560 Behind for some reason. 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:41.319 I'm not exactly sure what went on there, but they 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:42.760 loved it. It was really, really fun. 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:48.519 We had leprechaun traps, which is cruel, yes, and really brutal. Yes, 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.199 they'll always get away. They would always get away. They 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:53.440 would take the gold chocolate coins and get away, the 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.200 clever little bastards. We caught one once. He still works 0:00:56.240 --> 0:01:01.319 for us. I work it the green. Did you read 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:05.880 about that? You an official who's just prosecuted for slavery? No, yeah, 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:07.720 later on in the show or in the hour. We 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:12.399 don't have time now, but yeah, but the green urine 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:14.160 was a real Armstrong innovation. 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:15.679 We did not do that at my house. 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.160 We heard it from some babysitter or whatever. But yeah, 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:23.800 he got that glitter like in footprints somehow, and disgusting 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.160 all the way around. But anyway, happy to see Patrick's day. 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.760 Oh I should keep moving, but me incontinence is bothering me. 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:34.199 Maybe I'll just stop and relieve myself. Oh boy. 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.200 So this is one of the most fascinating things I've 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:44.080 read in the last several years. It is shockingly from 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:48.600 the Atlantic, which is just suffocatingly lefty these days. It 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.000 was written by a fellow by the name of Yannie 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.520 apple Bomb why Americans stopped moving houses and why that's 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.000 a very big problem. Actually Yannie might be a woman. 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:01.520 I don't know, probably is. But the subtitle of it 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.920 is how Progressives Froze the American Dream, And I was 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:07.040 surprised to see that on the cover, but I dove in. 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:09.320 I'm gonna hit you with parts of it. Jack comment 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.679 like as much as you like, obviously. So the lead 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:14.760 is the idea that people should be able to choose 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:17.480 their own communities instead of being stuck where they are born. 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.800 Is a distinctly American innovation. It is the foundation for 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:23.800 the country's prosperity and democracy, and it just may be 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.040 America's most profound contribution. 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.639 To the world. I have been saying this for years. 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:31.400 You have in California, the Midwest, all kinds of places 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.760 I've lived, was settled by people who thought they could 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:38.040 get a better deal here. No society has ever been 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.400 as mobile as the United States once was. No society 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:43.520 has even come close. In the nineteenth century, friends, the 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:47.559 heyday of American mobility. Roughly a third of all Americans 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.120 changed addresses each year. 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:52.960 Wow a third each year. 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:56.520 They quote a couple of commentators of the day, the 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.399 American is devoured with a passion for locomotions. 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.720 At one French, he cannot stay in one place. 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:05.360 Americans moved far more often, over longer distances, and to 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.520 greater advantage than did people in the lands from which 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.760 they had come. They described how in Europe that you 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:12.880 just you stayed on the land, you stayed in the town. 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:14.960 People were very suspicious of outsiders. 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:17.160 We'll get to that. 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:20.520 But over the past fifty years, this engine of American 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:24.200 opportunity has stopped working. Americans become less likely to move 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.600 from one state to another, to move within a state, 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:30.040 or even to switch residences within a city. In the 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:33.440 nineteen sixties, now remember it was about one in three 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.680 in the eighteen hundreds. The nineteen sixties, about one out 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:40.560 of every five Americans moved in any given year, down 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.440 from a one in three in the nineteenth century, but 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:44.920 a frenetic rate nonetheless, so one in five in the 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:49.440 nineteen sixties. In twenty twenty three, only one in thirteen 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:55.480 Americans moved. That's unbelievable, the sharp decline in geog You 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.720 go ahead, sorry. Joe and I both moved a lot 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:04.920 for our radio career, and I don't think it's shocking 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:10.320 to say the success of this project. 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:11.600 Depended on it. 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.440 Wouldn't it have never happened without the willingness to like 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.520 move to that town, than to that town, to then 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.240 that town for opportunity. 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.000 And probably it's a good time for a disclaimer. We 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:25.760 both were also raised by people who saw their fortune 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:28.440 in various ways and moved as necessary for career. My 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.280 dad was in the military for a while and then 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.000 in the publishing industry, and we moved to fair Mounta 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:40.200 until we finally settled in Chicagoland. But so we we 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:44.680 can feel and appreciate that side of the argument, not 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:49.040 that it's an argument for see somebody who's lived, you know, hometown, 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:51.480 Mom and dad and the cousins are always around, you 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.360 have giant Sunday dinners together on that sort of thing. Yeah, 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:55.920 I get a tear in my eye thinking about how 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.839 wonderful that would be. But like I've said many times, 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.599 everything has a cast and a benefit. You just have 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.359 to decide, you know what's for you anyway. Reading on 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:08.760 from Applebaum's piece, the sharp decline in geographic mobility is 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.600 the single most important social change in the past half century, 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:14.920 although other shifts have attracted far more attention. In that 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:18.360 same span, fewer Americans have started new businesses and fewer 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:23.160 Americans have switched jobs. From nineteen eighty five to twenty fourteen, 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.279 the share of people who have become entrepreneurs fell by half. 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.520 Wow, that is seriously troubling. 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:32.839 And then he gets into more Americans end up worse 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:34.719 off than their parents. I think part of that is 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.320 coming down from the high of the post WW two 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.040 American dominance that was just going to be hard to avoid. 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:42.640 But then he gets into how church membership is down 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.880 by a third since nineteen seventy, as is the share 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.640 Americans who socialized several times a week. Membership in any 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:50.560 kind of group is half down by half. 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:52.160 Well, you know, the earth rates keep falling. 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:55.800 One interesting aspect of the not being tied to your 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.920 local church and not socializing, seems like that would make 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:02.680 you more mobile as opposed to less mobile. If you're 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.720 socializing and have a social network, that would be hard 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:07.680 to leave behind. If you don't socialize, what the hell 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:09.520 do you care? Go to the next down? They got 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:10.120 a better job. 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:12.960 The other side of that coin is really interesting, and 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:14.800 we were going to get to that in a bit, 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:18.080 but I'll skip to it. And I can relate to 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:21.039 this because Judy and I relocated four years ago something 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.920 like that, and it makes you more likely to want 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:27.240 to go out and meet people. Oh interesting, put up 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.520 with the discomfort of going to a new church or 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:33.480 joining a club or you know, just for me, jumping 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:35.760 on a tea time that had one opening and introducing 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:39.080 myself and meeting people because you want to make connections. 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:43.440 And indeed that's what they found sociologically. That's interesting. You know, 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:44.960 it's kind of counterintuitive. 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.520 It made people more sociable the fact that we moved 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:51.400 all the time. And then there's an interesting political aspect 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:52.800 to this, and I don't want to get on a 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:54.800 partisan thing because that's not what this about. 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:59.200 This is about. I will just say that people who. 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:06.800 Felt anger and frustration at their financial situation tended to 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:10.080 vote more for Trump than Hillary, for instance, But the 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:13.560 number of those people who lived within a two hour 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.520 drive of where they grew up or had never even 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:20.360 left their hometown was way more huge. 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.360 It's a huge gap. 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.280 The number of people who said I'm unhappy with my 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:29.240 financial life in my career, they were wildly disproportionately people 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.880 who had not relocated to seek their fortune. 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:33.400 No, I don't want to make this partisan at all, 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.560 because I don't think it needs to be. But we 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.080 have been saying on this show for years, you know, 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:42.120 broadcasting out of California, people talking about how expensive it 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:43.320 is to live in San Francisco. 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.800 Well, then move some place cheaper. That's what I always did. 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.080 If I couldn't afford to live somewhere, I moved some 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:52.400 place cheaper, rather than expect the government or somebody to 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:56.120 come in and make it cheaper so you can stay. 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:57.240 Why why do. 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.920 Other taxpayers owe you the ability to stay in a 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:01.040 particular down That's. 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:04.080 Nuts, right, right, And just you know, you live your 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:05.880 life the way you see fit, and I will not 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:07.520 judge you unless you come. 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.120 With heart at tax money and I'll tell you to 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:09.520 your jack. 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.320 I mean, we were very, very successful our first job 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.000 together in Wichita, but we knew economically speaking, we had 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:19.160 topped out and needed to go, you know, seek our 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:19.960 fortune elsewhere. 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:21.640 But a lot of people do that. 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:23.840 Anyway, this I wanted to get to this part and 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:25.520 then there's more on the general topic. 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:27.560 To come and trust me. It's so interesting. 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:32.439 You've heard the expression moving day, right, I mean people 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:33.280 throw it around a little bit. 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:33.760 It's funny. 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:37.360 It's a term in golf. It's like the midway point 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.600 of a tournament. You got a chance to move off, 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:41.480 blah blah blah. And so I'm familiar with the term 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.920 in that way. How do we How did I not 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:45.640 know this? How did all of us not know this? 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:51.599 The great holiday of America, when it was so nomadic, 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:56.120 was called Moving Day, observed by renters and landlords throughout 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:59.120 the nineteenth century and well into the twentieth with a 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:03.280 giant game of musical houses. Moving Day, they write, was 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.680 a festival of new hopes and new beginnings, of shattered 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:09.679 dreams and shattered crockery, quite as recognized today as Christmas. 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.360 Or the fourth of July, wrote a Chicago newspaper in 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:13.360 eighteen eighty two. 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.480 I as much as I read history, have never come 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:16.959 across this. 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:18.920 I know it's crazy. 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:22.679 It was primarily an urban thing, although many rural communities 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:26.319 and suburbans kind of had their own sort, and it varied. 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:29.040 It might be April first or October first, but May 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:34.200 first was by far the most popular. Literally everybody who 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.560 is renting a home, and the vast majority of people rented. 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:41.120 Home ownership was way way lower than it is right now. 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:45.960 The vast majority of people would move on Moving Day 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:52.559 every year, or almost every year. Nothing quite so astonished 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.480 visitors from abroad as the spectacle of thousands upon thousands 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.720 of people picking up and swapping homes in a single day. 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:02.400 For months before moving day, Americans prepared for the occasion. 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.240 Tenants gave notice to the landlords, a received word of 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.640 the new rent. Then followed a frenzied period of house hunting, 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:11.120 as people, generally women, scouted for a new place to 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.800 live that would in some respect improve upon the old quote. 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:15.920 They want more room, or they want as much room 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:17.880 for less rent, or they want a better location, or 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:21.800 they want some convenience not heretofore enjoyed. The Topeka Daily 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:26.120 Capital summarized, these were months of general anticipation. Cities and 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:29.360 towns were alive with excitement. So if you've ever seen 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.280 one of those street scenes from back in the day 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:35.600 where everybody's got like their junk piled on wagons, that 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:36.880 was moving day. 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:41.600 And the point of putting that in the article, obviously 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:45.240 is to just point out that the cultural attitude about 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:50.920 moving was so much different. And as we've said, every 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:56.160 part of this country, people coming out west, starting in 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:59.400 the very very eastern part of the country, and the 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.240 colonies and spreading. Do you know when when the wild 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.520 West was Ohio and Kentucky and then going further and 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:11.440 further for a better opportunity. And now, not to be 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:15.720 too disparaging of various industries and people, because I understand, 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.880 like Joe said, I fully understand why it'd be awesome 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.360 to stay in your hometown where you grow up and 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.120 have your kids go to the same school and you 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:26.920 know all your family and friends. I god, I would 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:31.000 love that. But the idea that coal mining goes away 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:34.120 and you're gonna stay in the same dead town that's 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:35.359 never gonna. 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.800 Come back is nuts. 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.199 Yeah, it's nuts in terms of the history of this country, 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.400 or you know, working for General Motors in whatever town 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:46.400 in Michigan or whatever. 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.120 If something's gone away, then you gotta move to a 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:51.960 different town where the new industry is. That's what everybody 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:55.600 has done forever in this country. And yeah, pointing out 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:58.360 that that's gone away, and now we're like Europe, where 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:02.160 you do plan to stay in the town your family 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:06.240 is from for generations, which again I understand the appeal. 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:07.760 Sure. Yeah. 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.480 One charming anecdote from this which I can't find, but 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:13.680 I can paragraph a paraphrase. They mentioned that in Europe, indeed, 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.520 you stay in the same place, very insulur, and that 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:23.040 newcomers would simply cause a more subdivision of the goods 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.600 and services and land available there. So newcomers were like 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.960 a bad thing, whereas in America it was such a 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:34.760 constant that the idea of a stranger went from a 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:38.800 threat to literally Americans would say, hello, stranger, you're not 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.200 from around here, are you? And it was not a 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:45.280 term of suspicion, it was a term of greeting. That's 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.360 really interesting, and I don't think good for the country. 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.600 You have any comment on that, text line four one, five, 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:57.160 two nine five KFTC. Welcome to some new listeners on 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:01.920 some new stations in Phoenix Field, Santa Maria, Las Vegas, 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:05.680 Cape May, New Jersey. Five news stations starting today. Welcome 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:09.439 to the Armstrong and Getty Show. If you don't like. 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:13.160 It, hang around longer. Maybe it, you know, grows on 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:16.480 you like a fungus or something. It's a little different. Yeah, 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.680 we got this sex supposed to be. It's not purpose. 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.920 We got this text since it's Saint Patrick's Day. What 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.480 were your old on air names on Saint Patrick's Day? 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.720 We were patio furniture, and then what was the other one? 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:31.280 Patio furniture and Pat mcgroin. Pat mcgro was not in 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.880 good taste at all, and I disapproved. Now you need 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.360 to jump out of the heros. No time for fun. 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.800 I have scholarly studies of American moving patterns to finish. 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:40.320 Ashually. 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.640 We'll never finish because like everything in the Atlantic, this 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.800 is forty thousand words long. But it's so interesting if 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.400 you're just tuning in and grabbed the previous segment via 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.000 podcast Armstrong and getting on demand. But so, who's to 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.800 blame for the change in American life that we used 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:55.920 to move all the time and pursue our fortune, just 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.400 everybody did all the time, except for you, like your 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:03.600 old money Easterners. Well, interestingly, you can name I'm sorry, 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.640 you can blame a woman named Jane Jacobs who was 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:10.000 a writer and thinker in the twentieth century, And in 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.160 nineteen sixty one she wrote a book called The Death 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.080 and Life of Great American Cities. And ironically, she and 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:17.160 her husband had bought a place in the West Village 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.560 in New York and changed a storefront and apartment into 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:25.160 a big house, and so she wrote this incredibly eloquent 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:29.280 book that was a huge hit about how cool cities were, 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.520 how the a shop was right there on the corner 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.920 and they would be delivering laundry, and people would stop 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:37.520 on the street corners. 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.000 And they were just very alive. 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:45.000 And she didn't realize that the reason they were really 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:49.200 alive is that cities were constantly reinventing themselves to deal 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.960 with whatever the needs were of the humans at that time. 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:55.120 Like if you had huge quote unquote tenements, remember we 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.040 heard how terrible tenements are. Well, those that was cheap 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:03.200 housing for recent immigrants, and people would sink their roots 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.120 in America, get their job skills up, get a better job, 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.040 and leave the tenements, and new immigrants would come into them. 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.720 But so she fell in love with a particular moment 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:19.240 of time in New York, and ignoring really her own premise, 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:23.880 she and her neighbors, who are college educated, really smart people, 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:28.440 figured out, Hey, we can badger and lobby city hall 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.880 so that nothing can ever change these neighborhoods that we 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.080 think are so great just the way they are, And 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:41.160 nimbiism was born, and was then and is now mostly 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:46.960 progressive people with money saying nothing can change because I 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.960 like it the way it is, And then the writer 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.440 of this piece gets into solutions for it. But it 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:56.760 has a great deal to do with falling out of 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:03.640 love with stability in cities and urban areas in particular, 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:08.960 and falling out of love with bureaucrats deciding how everything 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:12.560 should look and coming up with master plans, because the 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:14.920 free market of people coming and going and moving and 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:18.360 buying and selling and renting it moves far, far too quickly, 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:19.920 especially these days. 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.840 If you didn't hear those stats, Joe had last segment 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:28.800 about how much it has changed in a century or 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:32.520 less of people being willing to move to seek their fortune. 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.800 It's shocking. I mean, so that's got to have huge 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:41.040 ramifications to you know, if you're worried about inequality or 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.240 inequity or whatever you want to call it, If you're 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.800 going to stay in some town where the industry died 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.240 and you're gonna stay there anyway, you ain't gonna do well. 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.960 Right, Right, It's amazing to me people can't see that, 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:56.320 or they don't care, and or we've designed a system 0:16:56.320 --> 0:17:00.160 where they can they just get on welfare or disability 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.720 is a right, huge aspect of this, right. 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.040 And if politicians would stop going to those towns and 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.240 saying we're gonna bring back the coal industry and that 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:12.360 sort of thing, that would help, right Armstrong. 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:17.840 And Geddy, I would start pushing time running down densely. 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:28.879 Hot the war missed it, rebound, startamire, Arizona's. 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:35.200 Got a chance, starta buyer, no check down the seven 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:41.760 seconds you'd see the time Wittenberg, the that was the 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:46.280 young time backson Co. Yeah, you're way back to that one, Hanson. 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:47.280 That was awesome. 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:50.560 When North Carolina State upset Houston way back in the 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:55.439 day Jesus forty years ago, anyway, March madness getting underway. 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:58.400 Brackets came out yesterday, and if you're if anybody's betting 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.000 in the office, I will be calling the FBI. 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.200 And I do not put up with a legal gambling. 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:09.119 So we didn't talk government shut down last week because 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:14.239 we like having listeners and we've had the experience of 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.560 they never amount to anything. Most of the time they 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:19.800 get settled before the deadline, and even if they don't, 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:23.880 whatever last a couple hours or a day or whatever. 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.520 Anyway, the Beltway is. 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.720 Like a big high school and the shutdown wrangling is 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:33.359 almost always like high school gossip gets settled one way 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.960 or another, and yeah, you're right, But the interesting is 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:37.400 no one's life significantly. 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:41.200 The interesting one on this is that it really revealed 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.280 the problems the Democratic Party has. 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:44.800 We mentioned earlier. 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.520 The NBC poll that came out had Trump at the 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:50.520 highest approval rating he's ever had in the NBC poll, 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:53.760 while the Democratic Party has got the lowest approval rating 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:59.119 it has ever had in polling. And the split was 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:03.359 evident over the weekend because Chuck Schumer, the Democratic leader 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:09.840 of the Democrats in the Senate, came out and said 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:11.960 we got to vote for this thing now the government 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:13.760 to be bad, which I think he's right about. But 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:15.680 I think I think he was on the cright side. 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:17.760 But the left wing of the party hated it. Anyway. 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:19.920 Here's a little other reporting from NBC on. 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:24.879 That divided Senate Democrats advance a Republican spending bill to 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:28.760 avoid a government shutdown, but spark an intra party battle 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:29.720 in the process. 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:32.760 Today was a bad day for the country, and I 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:35.720 won't sugarcoat it. Today was also a bad day for 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:41.520 the Democratic Party. In this case, CR stands for complete resignation. 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.920 I think there is a deep sense of outrage and betrayal. 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:50.320 It's an unacceptable, unconsonable, and un American spending bill. 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:53.720 Is it time for new leadership in the Senate? Next question? 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:55.560 So it's interesting. 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:59.360 So Democrats are very, very unpopular, and you had their 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:07.640 annoying representatives there in Adam Schiff. I met representatives colloquially, 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:10.439 not like literally, because Adam Shiff is the senator. 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:13.360 Sure, he's a senator. 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:18.359 You got Adam Schiff and AOC really unhappy with the 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:21.600 fact that Democrats went along with it. You to talk 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:25.879 about not reading the room, right, no kidding, And but 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:27.040 the big one there at the end. 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:28.160 That was Joaquem Jefferies. 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:32.120 He's the leader Democratic leader in the House, and we'll 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:34.160 be Speaker of the House if the Democrats take it back. 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:37.560 Ask should there be new leadership in the center and 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:40.879 in the Senate? Should they get rid of Schumer? And 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:46.520 he said, next question, leadership criticizing each other in the same. 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:49.200 Party is not common. Is that the way you took that? 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:51.600 That's the way I took it. Yeah, you didn't. 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:52.239 Take it right. 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:54.679 Well, I don't know. It could also mean that's a 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:55.440 stupid question. 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:58.840 Next question, Oh, interesting, And certainly the way they presented 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:02.400 it on mainstream media, which leans left, it was him 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:05.640 being unhappy. That's why they put it in there with 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:10.240 the other clips. This is what more reasonable. John Fetterman said, 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:11.880 what leverage do we have? 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:16.680 Democrats keep showing up at every night fight with a kesserole. 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:17.160 Whatever that means. 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:22.000 So, but John Fetterman, along with Chuck Schumer, just closer 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:27.720 to mainstream Democrats who understand where their leverage is, or 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:31.200 where America is or whatever the idea of shutting down 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:34.080 the government. Chuck Schumer actually made the argument, we don't 0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:35.960 have the clip. I guess, but Chuck Schumer got up 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:38.680 there and said, look, we're all we're gonna do is 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:41.280 empowered Doge. If we shut down the government and put 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:44.640