1 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: Good evening. Everyone, Welcome to Stinchfield. So the government shutdown 2 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: continues today, and now it seems the Democrats are moving 3 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: from Obamacare to Snap Benefits, anything they can do to 4 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: raise the emotional toll of the government shutdown. But I'm 5 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: here to tell you Snap benefits, there's some real problems 6 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: with this SNAP program that needs to be figured out 7 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 1: first and foremost. Though, here's John Fetterman, the Senator from 8 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Democrat, with some common sense for his fellow Democrats. 9 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: I'm deeply, deeply distressing to know that forty two millions 10 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: Americans are going to lose their SNAP benefits. And now 11 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: that's one of the big reasons why I refuse to 12 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: shutting our government down. And again I feel like the 13 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: Democrats really need to own the shutdown. 14 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: I did a deep dive into the SNAP program and 15 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: what I'm finding, like every other government program, it is 16 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: ripe with fraud. Ripe with fraud from a retailer perspective, 17 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: meaning they're selling goods that aren't eligible for it. The 18 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: SNAP benefits, that's the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance program. It is 19 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: ripe for fraud from the consumer perspective. Many of these 20 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: people are selling their ebt cards. You know, they get 21 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: a little card like a debit card that is loaded 22 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: up with money. They sell those for twenty thirty forty 23 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 1: cents on the dollar. By one account, in twenty twenty four, 24 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: it looked like up to thirteen percent of all Snap 25 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: payments were somehow fraudulent, whether they were either misappropriation, retailer fraud, 26 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: or black market fraud. This is a gentleman in New 27 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: York spelling out just how prevalent the selling of these 28 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: cars really is. 29 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: In his neighborhood. 30 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 4: Foodstamps and they're selling it for cash. They'll get four 31 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 4: thousand dollars in food stamps and they'll just take like 32 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 4: one thousand dollars in cash, like bro Like that's happening 33 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: like everywhere. 34 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: That's why they're mad. 35 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 4: That is exactly why they're mad. 36 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 3: Right now. 37 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 4: You know the thing about it too, They will never 38 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 4: admit to selling their food stems. 39 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: What is happening? 40 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: Well, we know what's happening because you can go online. 41 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: You can see people talking about it all over the place. Now, 42 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: why haven't we gotten an Elon Musk style investigation into 43 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: the SNAP program to root out the waste, fraud and abuse. 44 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: Look folks. 45 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: We have known it has been going on for as 46 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: long as this program has been enacted. I went back 47 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: to the archives and found this report from twenty sixteen 48 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: from ABC. 49 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: Fraud and Poor Management. 50 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 5: Under my public support for this program, we identified thirty 51 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 5: six instances where dead. 52 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 6: People received benefits. 53 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: More than a year after their death. 54 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: If we are doing all this work on the retailer 55 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: side and we aren't taking care of the recipient side, 56 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: we are not going to stop the fraud in trafficking. 57 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: So again, retailer side, yes, recipient side, you better believe it. Now, 58 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: all this brings us to present day. You heard dimension 59 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: dead people. Yes, there are dead people receiving SNAP benefits. 60 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: How they're eating these little debies or whatever it else 61 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: they're buying with the SNAP benefits, I have no idea, 62 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: but it's bad news. Illegal aliens as well, by some accounts, 63 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: over a million illegal aliens on the SNAP program. That's illegal. 64 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: By the way, you cannot have illegal aliens on the 65 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: SNAP program. This is Brooke Rowlins, Secretary of Agriculture. That's 66 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: the agency that runs the SNAP program. 67 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 7: We found one guy in six different states getting a benefit. 68 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 7: We found about five thousand people that are dead who 69 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 7: are still getting benefits like it is time to drastically 70 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 7: reform this program so that we can make sure that 71 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 7: those who are truly needy, truly vulnerable, are getting what 72 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 7: they need and the rest of the corruption goes away 73 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 7: and we can serve the American taxpayer. 74 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: Again. This goes to the corruption at every level. I 75 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: want you to take a look at this. 76 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: This was on Amazon Food eligible for SNAP benefits. You 77 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: have white sturgeon at forty eight dollars an ounce, a 78 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: state white sturgeon at sixty nine dollars an ounce. You 79 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: got crab legs as you just saw twenty one dollars 80 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: an ounce, fifty four dollars an ounce. And let me 81 00:04:53,279 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: show you this caviare that's the sturgeon Amazon eligible Truffle oil. 82 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: If you look at this stuff, Trouble oil forty nine 83 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: dollars for seventeen ounce. Now why does someone on food 84 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: assistance need caviare and truffle oil and sturgeon lobster? I 85 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: saw one thing. I saw one pino noir. Now you're 86 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: not allowed to buy alcohol. They called this is thanks 87 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: to the Dallas Express. They call Amazon and Amazons. So 88 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: all that was a one off it was a mistake. Sorry, 89 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: Pino Noir. Come on, folks, now, when you think of 90 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: all of this, I want you to think of why 91 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: this is happening. And here's a statistic that should outrage 92 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: every single one of you. You know, the average weight 93 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: of a woman, yes weight in pounds of a woman 94 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: on Snap benefits in America is two one hundred and 95 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: eleven pounds for a five foot four woman on Snap benefits. 96 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: The average weight of a woman in America not on 97 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: Snap benefits is one hundred and forty pounds. Still too 98 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: heavy in my opinion. But do you understand what's happening here? 99 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: They're not buying the right foods on the Snap program. 100 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: All of this needs to be rained in. Thank god, 101 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: we do have some Snap recipients that have critical thinking skills, 102 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: like this young woman. 103 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 8: You know it's cheaper than a three dollars pack of 104 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 8: Little Debbie Snacks, a fifty cent can of green beans. Okay, 105 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 8: you know it's cheaper than three packs of soda, a 106 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 8: bunch of cans of fifty cent cans of vegetables. Okay, 107 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 8: you know what's cheaper than one hundred and fifty dollars 108 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 8: you spent on chips, sugar, soda, all of that buying 109 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 8: a bunch of meat because the amount of snacks that 110 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 8: you bought are enough to last you two weeks, and 111 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 8: the amount of meat that I bought is enough to 112 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 8: last me the entire month of November while I wait 113 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 8: for food benefits to fix themselves. 114 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: You know, I'm usually the first to judge people, the 115 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: red hair, the nos ring. 116 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 3: I think, oh boy, no, that's a critical thinker. 117 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: She's on SNAP. She shouldn't be. She's a bright young lady. 118 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: Somebody out there will go find her, hire her. Nobody 119 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: else thinks like that. Apparently, including in government. This program needs. 120 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: To be rained in. I want to bring in now 121 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: to discuss all of this. 122 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: Research Fellow on welfare and Family Policy at the Heritage Foundation, 123 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: Rachel Sheffield, is with us. 124 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: Rachel, welcome to the program for having me. 125 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: All right, Rachel, how long have you and others at 126 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: the Heritage Foundation known about fraud inside the SNAP program? 127 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 9: Well, I think fraud is something that's been going on 128 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 9: probably since the program, but yet I don't know that 129 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 9: for sure, but this is something that goes it is, Yes, 130 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 9: it is rampant in the program, and unfortunately it's something 131 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 9: that I don't even think we fully know the scope 132 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 9: of because I don't think it's measured broadly. And you know, 133 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 9: SNAP is just one of one part of a much 134 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 9: larger welfare system. We have ninety programs at a cost 135 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 9: of one point seven trillion a year. And you know, 136 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 9: for all the fraud that's going on, for fraud that's 137 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 9: going on in SNAP, you know, there's more, there's more 138 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 9: to go around. 139 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, you know, I use it as an example because 140 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: clearly what Elon Musk did and the Doge Crew of 141 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: finding wayts run abuse and basically every level of government. 142 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: But this is just one example, and I use it 143 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: as an example because the Democrats are going crazy over SNAP. 144 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: I wish though, someplace along the way, somebody inside government 145 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: would go crazy over raining this stuff in. 146 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 3: It doesn't appear that there's been any real strong attempt 147 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: to do that. 148 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, sadly this Yeah, as you mentioned earlier, we have 149 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 9: forty two million Americans on the SNAP program. The welfare 150 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 9: system had, you know, it began back in the nineteen 151 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 9: sixties with the you know, Lynda by Johnson's War on Poverty, 152 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 9: and you know, he said that he wanted to address 153 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 9: the causes, not just the symptoms of poverty. But unfortunately, 154 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 9: for sixty years plus now, we have been basically just 155 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 9: throwing money at the symptoms rather than trying to address 156 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 9: the causes, rather than trying to help people improve their lives, 157 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 9: get into work, have a better life for their families, 158 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 9: rather than to be dependent on government. And so, you know, 159 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 9: this is an issue that is actually, you know, a 160 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 9: lot of Americans, Democrats, Republicans agree that if you're going 161 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 9: to be receiving benefits and your able body, you should 162 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 9: work or prepare for work, or do something. But unfortunately, 163 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 9: unfortunately Congressional you know, Congress has done not very much 164 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 9: to address this very important issue. I don't think very 165 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 9: many Americans know that the welfare system is so large, 166 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,479 Speaker 9: one point seven trillion. It's one of the largest functions 167 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 9: of you know, government spending, and yet it just kind of, 168 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 9: you know, it gets kind of talked about as if 169 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 9: it's one program here or there. But it's a huge 170 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 9: it's a huge it's a huge system. It needs reform. 171 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 9: And part of that is because we really want people 172 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 9: to have better lives. We don't want people to just 173 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 9: be dependent forever and ever on government. It's not good 174 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 9: for them. It's not a sustainable model. 175 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 3: Well it isn't at all. 176 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to play a clip for you of a 177 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: woman on Snap. She's the complete opposite of the last 178 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: woman that I played for you. In fact, she's telling 179 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: anybody that were to stop looters when the Snap program 180 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: shut down, look out, because they may kill you for 181 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: looting this food. 182 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: Watch this, please mind job business. 183 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 10: Those people they trying to feed their keys, and they 184 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 10: trying to go home and just feed their keys. 185 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,119 Speaker 3: And I would. 186 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 10: I would hate for you to not be able to 187 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 10: make it back to your family, and for you to 188 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 10: not be able to make it back home because you 189 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 10: trying to save these billionaire companies. 190 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: All right, she's laughing about it that if they loot 191 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: Walmart and they come out and kill you for trying 192 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: to stop them, that you'd hate not to go home. 193 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: But the reality is there's other options out there for people. 194 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: There are food banks all over the place. I don't 195 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: think they're widely utilized because people don't want to go 196 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: to a soup kitchen. They don't want to go to 197 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: a food kitchen. They'd rather go and I guess get 198 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: the little debbies. But in the end, are there other 199 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: options for these people in time of need? Would the 200 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: SNAP programs shut down? I mean, I want people that 201 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: need assistance to have some help. But there is other 202 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: options out there, isn't there? 203 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 9: Rachel Well, I think yeah, as you mentioned, I mean right, 204 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 9: there are food banks, there are other you know, SNAP 205 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 9: is just one. I've you know, ninety different welfare programs 206 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 9: and one of you know, there are other food assistance 207 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 9: programs out there, to school meal programs, school and school breakfast, 208 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 9: uh food programs for the elderly. I mean, unfortunately, SNAP 209 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 9: is you know, this, this this shutdown issue touches so 210 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 9: many people because again, as I mentioned, our welfare system 211 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 9: has just been designed to kind of feed on itself, 212 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 9: to continue to just grow and grow and bring more 213 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 9: people on who then become dependent rather than becoming you know, 214 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 9: self reliant, rather than working and gaining those skills that 215 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 9: will help them get off the program. So we have 216 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 9: that we've created this system where we're not actually helping people, 217 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 9: and they and they assume that the only way forward, 218 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 9: you know, the only path for them is to be 219 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 9: dependent on government, and that is not that is not 220 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 9: what we should be. You know, we need to report 221 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 9: this so that we can actually help people get out 222 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 9: of get you a better place. 223 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: I believe. 224 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: My belief, Rachel is this is exactly why Democrats created this. 225 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: So when they got to a position like this, they 226 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: could put the pressure on Republicans and say, look at 227 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: all these people. The people would rise up because they're 228 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: dependent on the SNAP program. This is exactly what the 229 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: Democrats designed. It's where they wanted these Rachel Sheffield, great 230 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: avenue on the program. Thank you, and a big thanks 231 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: to the Heritage Foundation as well. 232 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 11: Thanks for having me tonight. 233 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely my pleasure. All right. 234 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: I want to turn now to another little devious and 235 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: deceitful crew. Besides the Democrats, it's the Democrats henchman, and 236 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: that is the mainstream media, specifically CBS News and even 237 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: more specifically than that. 238 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 3: Sixty minutes, sixteen. 239 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: Minutes came out hammering away at President Trump last night. 240 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 3: I was so angry at this interview. 241 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: Now, I don't get me wrong, President Trump has won 242 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: courage to go sit with CBS News in sixty minutes 243 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: when he knows they hate him with a vengeance. 244 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 3: But he killed it. 245 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 12: Man. 246 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: President Trump was gold in the face of a very 247 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: combative angry which with a b reporter named Nora O'Donnell. 248 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: I knew it was going to be trouble when the 249 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: peace started out like this. 250 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 13: It's been five years since President Trump appeared for an 251 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 13: interview on sixty Minutes, so we had a lot of questions. 252 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 12: What are you doing. 253 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 13: As president to end the shutdown tonight? 254 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 6: He answers them. 255 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 13: Americans have been watching videos of ice tackling a young mother, 256 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 13: tear gas being used in a Chicago residential neighborhood, and 257 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 13: the smashing of car windows. Have some of these raids 258 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 13: gone too far? 259 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: No, I think they haven't gone far enough, Thank you, 260 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: mister President. They haven't. Again, it's all filled with half truce. 261 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: They don't tell you what's really behind the woman being tackled. 262 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: Who's getting in the way of ice agents trying to 263 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: do their job, not obeying command. Same thing with the 264 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: people in the car. What are you doing to stop 265 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: the shut down? Mister President? For the drumb them have 266 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: to do anything. The Democrats just have to vote for 267 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: a continuing resolution. It was angry, it was got your 268 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: style reporting, and it was exactly what I expect from 269 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: sixty Minutes. 270 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 3: Here's an example. 271 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 5: You're okay with those tactics, Yeah, because you have to 272 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 5: get the people out, you know, you have to look 273 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 5: at the people. 274 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 3: Many of them are murderers. 275 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 14: Many of them are people that were thrown out of 276 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 14: their countries because they were, you know, criminals. 277 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: So the tactics what tackling an illegal alien who's getting 278 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: in the way of ICE agents doing their job, that's 279 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: literally putting agents in danger and the public around her. 280 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: Smashing the window of someone who's inside a car that 281 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: refuses to obey commands when they think there's felons inside 282 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: that car, dangerous individuals who could do serious harm in 283 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: the American people. Sixty minutes told none of that story. 284 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: And then I look at this, the victims. They got 285 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: to bring up the victims, James Comy and Letitia James, 286 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,359 Speaker 1: darlings of the left. Oh, mister president, aren't you engaged 287 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: in political retribution? 288 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 13: James Comy, John Bolton, Letitia James were all recently indicted. 289 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 13: There's a pattern to these names. They're all public figures 290 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 13: who have publicly denounced you. 291 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: Is it political retribute? 292 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 12: What you know? 293 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 3: Who got indicted? 294 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 14: The man you're looking at, I got indicted and I 295 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 14: was innocent, And here I am because I was able 296 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 14: to beat all of the nonsense that was thrown at me. 297 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: She shouldn't bring that up. 298 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: He was indicted in Georgia, he was indicted federally, he 299 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: was indicted in New York City, he was indicted in 300 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: New York State. They came after him from every freaking 301 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: angle to stop him from being president. And you worried 302 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: about political retribution from a guy who literally was the 303 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: leader of an attempted coop of the United States of America. 304 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: Talking about James Tomy weaponizing the FBI to not just 305 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: go after President Trump, but everybody around him, literally weaponizing 306 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice. You had federal judges who act 307 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: so deviously and continue to act so previously. And they're 308 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: worried about Letitia James. She lied by all accounts on 309 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: her mortgage. There's a real victim at play here, where 310 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: there were no victims with President Trump because he didn't 311 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: do anything. First off, I am so angry at this 312 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: sixty minutes piece that sometimes people tell me I get. 313 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 3: Too fired up. I can't help it. 314 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: I want to bring in now Reacher, research analyst at 315 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: the Media Research Center. 316 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: I know they get fired. 317 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: Up over stuff like this. Bill Dagostino is with us. Bill, 318 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: welcome to the program. 319 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 6: Great to see you, Graham. 320 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: Am I overreacting? Bill? 321 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 15: No, I don't think you are. But I think I 322 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 15: have something that's probably going to upset you more, which 323 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 15: is that, by all accounts, this was the most even 324 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 15: handed interview that CBS has managed to do with President 325 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 15: Trump probably ever. So parse that one out for a second. 326 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 15: This is this is them our absolute best. 327 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: So this is like telling me that you know, crime 328 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: is down in Chicago because they only have one hundred 329 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: and fifty murders, not two hundred murders. 330 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 3: But so this was even handed. Bill, to explain this 331 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: to me. 332 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 15: Oh no, it wasn't. It was not even handed. This 333 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 15: is this is the closest to even handed they've ever come. 334 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 15: And I think this might this might genuinely be Nora 335 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 15: O'Donnell doing her best. The reason I say that is 336 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 15: because we did not see the same kind of combative, interrupting, 337 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 15: fact checking, et cetera that you that you saw during 338 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 15: for example, jd Vance's at the time as a candidate, 339 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 15: his debate. Right when she was one of the moderators, 340 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 15: she and Margaret Brennan were constantly jumping in and interrupting, 341 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 15: and I think that she was instructed not to, and 342 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 15: so instead she just wove all of the obnoxious jabs, 343 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 15: gotchas and whatever else into her questions. But Trump was 344 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 15: able to be very effective because of that, because she 345 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 15: couldn't just constantly jump in and stop him every time 346 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 15: he started on a train of thought, every thirty seconds, 347 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 15: and so because of that, it ended up being one 348 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 15: of the least effective attempts at sinking this president that 349 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 15: I think the media have ever done, because she was 350 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 15: forced to actually play by the rules. She couldn't just argue. 351 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 15: For example, he called Zoron Mamdanni a communistice. 352 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: Let me just play a clip for you, because I 353 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: think this is the clip where I was getting very 354 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: angry with her for doing exactly what you're saying here, 355 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: and that's interrupting him. Roll that one, guys, we can 356 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: make it much less expensive for people and give them 357 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: much better healthcare. 358 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 3: Willing to work with the Democrats on it. 359 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 14: The problem is they want to give money to prisoners, 360 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 14: to drug dealers, to all these millions of people that 361 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 14: were allowed to come in with an open border from Biden, 362 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 14: and nobody can do that. 363 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: One Republican would ever do that, all right, So that 364 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: wasn't quite it. But you see, where's the plan. She's 365 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: wanting a plan from him. 366 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 15: I'll let you continue, Bill, right, because she will she 367 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 15: will always do that, right, I mean, this is this 368 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 15: is basically the best we can expect from them until 369 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 15: we get essentially a complete overhaul. This is this is 370 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 15: the best effect that you're going to see from Barry 371 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 15: Weiss taking control of CBS News until they actually start 372 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 15: cleaning out a lot of these people. This is the 373 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 15: best Nora O'Donnell can do because she's always going to 374 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 15: push the Democrat line because she got into media to 375 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 15: push the Democrat line. 376 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 12: Right. 377 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 15: If you remove that from her, she has no more 378 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 15: rays on debtro she has no more reason to be 379 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 15: in the position. 380 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 3: That she's in. 381 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 15: And so if you're not satisfying with what you're seeing here, 382 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 15: we need an overhaul, and I would I would argue 383 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 15: that that's pretty much the only way forward for any 384 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 15: of these news networks that continue to insist that they're 385 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 15: objective when this is this is what they do, right, 386 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 15: This is this is how they question a president of 387 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 15: the United States, Is they essentially read a slate of 388 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 15: DNC talking points to him. 389 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, here's another clip cut twenty guys, this is her 390 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: just literally trying to blame everything on President Trump. 391 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 5: So then what happens in the case Asumer is a 392 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 5: basket case and he has nothing to lose, become I 393 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 5: just left Japan, He's become a come a Kazi pilot. 394 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 13: Sounds like it's not going to get solved, the shutdown. 395 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: It's going to get sofa. Oh, it's going to get 396 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 3: so how we'll. 397 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 14: Get it sub eventually they're going to have to vote bill. 398 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 15: Incredible, right, I mean, so this is this is the 399 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 15: premise that literally every Democrat or excuse me, liberal journalists 400 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 15: question about how do we solve this shutdown? Starts and 401 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 15: ends at for any Republican, any any member of the administration, 402 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 15: and certainly for Trump, is well, what are you going 403 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 15: to do about this? 404 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 3: Right? 405 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 15: There is There is never any question about how do 406 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 15: you get Democrats to cave on this? How do you 407 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 15: get Democrats to come to the table and accept what 408 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 15: you're offering them? It's always well, can't you cave? Right, 409 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 15: It's it's always you have to negotiate. It's always well, 410 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 15: Mike Johnson has to has to reopen the House right 411 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 15: or or whatever else. It's it's never about what the 412 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 15: Democrats are willing to accept. It's always about what Republicans 413 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 15: will do to bend the need to them. The ball 414 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 15: is basically always in Republicans court as far as these 415 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 15: news media are concerned, because they want Democrats to get 416 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 15: what they want at the end of the day. And 417 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 15: so that's the premise that every question that they ask 418 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 15: about the shutdown starts. 419 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 12: From welcome back everyone. 420 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: Apologies for the technical errors, but we are back up 421 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: in morning. All right, Tomorrow is election day in many 422 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 1: states across the country. 423 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: What is tops of the list? 424 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: We have Virginia governor's race, we have New Jersey governor's race. 425 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: We've got the mayor's race in New York. Will a 426 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: communist take over New York City? We also have the shutdown. 427 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: How big an effect does the shutdown have on these elections? 428 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 3: This is poster for Lunce on CNN. 429 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 16: I believe that the shutdown is politically motivated. I believe 430 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 16: that if they wanted to, they could find common grounds. 431 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 16: They choose not to, and that is hurt the Republican brand, 432 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 16: the Republican reputation, their numbers are down, is you point 433 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 16: out in your own calling at Donald Trump. But the 434 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 16: numbers that are falling the worst, to my surprise, are 435 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 16: the Democrats. Everyone is being hurt by this, everyone's credibility 436 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 16: and respect. 437 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: So look, isn't a surprise that Congress's numbers are folding 438 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: from both sides of the aisle. No, everyone's upset with Congress, 439 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: Republicans and Democrats. But you hear what he said there, 440 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: they're more upset with Democrats. Will this have an effect 441 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: on any of these races or will Democrats run the table? 442 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 3: Now? I want to remind you this, Mom Donnie, is 443 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 3: bad news. 444 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: Mom Donnie's information about his family continues to come out here. 445 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 3: This was a quote from his father, Okay, his father. 446 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: According to a study by the Global Anti Semitism Policy Institute, 447 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: Mam Donni's father's quoted is saying, quote, the long term 448 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: security of a Jewish homeland in historic Palestine requires the 449 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: dismantling of the Jewish state, confirming what many of us 450 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: believe was that Mam Donni is a total anti semit 451 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: But we have problems with our own Republican party with 452 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: anti Semites as well, So I don't know if this 453 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: plays a big role in New York. Certainly New York 454 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: is a Jewish town. You would think it would, but 455 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: they haven't shown me before that they will push against 456 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: people that hate Jews, Democrats being number one on that list. Now, 457 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: Trump called Mam Donni a communist. I believe he is. 458 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: I think he's worse than that. I think he's a 459 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: terrorist sympathizer as well. Trump says, you know what, we're 460 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: gonna hold up money to New York. You're gotta have 461 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: a terrorist sympathizer, communist send federal tax dollars to New 462 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: York City only to have it wasted on city run 463 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: grocery stores. 464 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 3: This was Mom Donnie's response. 465 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 17: Now, Donald Trump may speak as if it is his decision, 466 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 17: but this is money that this city is owned. This 467 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 17: is money that we will expect to collect. And I 468 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 17: will take every single day after this election to put 469 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 17: together my city government, my city hall, to ensure that 470 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 17: it is prepared not only for the threats from Donald Trump, 471 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 17: but also the threats from an affordability crisis. 472 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 3: So he's going to try to push back. 473 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: That plays well with his base, It doesn't play well 474 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: with the American people. 475 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 3: The only problem Is. He's in New York City. If 476 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 3: New York gets a Communist for a mayor, I hope 477 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 3: they suffer. I really do. That's my hometown, by the way, 478 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 3: and I'm sorry to say that. 479 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 1: I got a lot of New York friends there watching. 480 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: I know the guys out at the America Warehouse. I 481 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: don't want you to suffer. But quite frankly, New York 482 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: is going to get what it deserves. They elect this 483 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: guy in the office. My guy is Curtis Sliwa. Cuomo's 484 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: the one who should have stepped down. 485 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: Not Sliwa, here's Curtis. 486 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: They talked about favorability, which your panel was mentioning. 487 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 3: I and Barack Obama. 488 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 14: Rated out the best in New York City in terms 489 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 14: of national, local, and state figures fifty two percent. 490 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 3: The unfavorable ratings for Arewel Cuomo were miserable. You can't 491 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 3: overcome that. 492 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: Everybody loves Curtis, like to show everybody loves Raymond, and 493 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: now I have to translate it into boats tomorrow. Now, 494 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: I understand it's important to go on CNN, but I'm 495 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: going to tell you this about Curtis Sliwa. 496 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 3: I had sent text messages to his sister. 497 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: I sent emails to him, I talked to his friends 498 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: about getting him on the program. 499 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: You're going to have to rally strong concerns. There are 500 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 3: a lot in New York. 501 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: I got nothing back, not even a response back from 502 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: the Curtis Sliwa campaign. So again, you know, these guys 503 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: make their beds in many respects. I want to bring 504 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: in now though, director of Big Data poll and host 505 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 1: of Inside the Numbers, Rich Barris is back with us. 506 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 3: Rich. It's always good to see you. 507 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 6: It's always great to be here. Thanks for having me. 508 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: All right, Rich, Let's talk about maybe where we have 509 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: a better chance than New York. I have a feeling, mom, 510 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: Donnie's gonna win there. Let's talk about New Jersey. First, 511 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: Jack Chitarelli. That seems to be the closest to the bunch. 512 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: How are you seeing that race? 513 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 6: It is the closest. 514 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 18: Honestly, I think Republicans are most likely going to have 515 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 18: a bad night tomorrow and Jack Sidarelli is the best 516 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 18: chance they have for a win, which you know would 517 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 18: be viewed as an upset right now. But I would 518 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 18: just note that the polling has not been very good 519 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 18: in the state of New Jersey. And even some of 520 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 18: the polls that give Mikey Cheryl a bigger lead are 521 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 18: still close these this is a close race. So I 522 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 18: think the X factor here is that the polls, especially 523 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 18: the better ones, are showing that Cidarewi is winning a 524 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 18: lot of Democrats lot, so while Republicans did not post 525 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 18: the early vote numbers that I want to see, the 526 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 18: X factor is how many of these Democrats come out tomorrow, 527 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 18: because that will even be a higher crossover number for Jacksonarelli. 528 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 6: And he's proven he can do it. He did it 529 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 6: in twenty one. 530 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 18: It looks even bigger this year, and that can really 531 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 18: present a challenge for polling. It really can. So I think, 532 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 18: you know, that's the brighter spot for the night. And 533 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 18: by the way, I'm glad you said what you said 534 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 18: about New York. I'm a Five Boroughs guy myself. I 535 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 18: live in the South now, but my family was Staten Island, 536 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 18: Brooklyn and Queens long long tradition. 537 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 6: In the Five Boroughs. I don't want to see either. 538 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 18: But the fact of the matter is this has been 539 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 18: going on a while, and the government you elect is 540 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 18: the government you deserve. 541 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 3: You know. 542 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: I hope when it comes to New York if they 543 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: go down this route that it makes a difference. 544 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 3: Now, I do morning drive radio out. 545 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: In Los Angeles, Rich, Los Angeles got even worse than 546 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: New York. It doesn't seem to make a difference to 547 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: the people of LA. I mean, that place is a 548 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: hell hole now with crime and homelessness and everything, and 549 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: nobody seems to make a change when they vote Rich. 550 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 18: I got to tell you to the out migration, New 551 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 18: York's actual greatest export is human beings. People have been 552 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 18: fleeing that state, and they've been Republican voters, particularly ramping 553 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 18: up during COVID. Even my own uncle he would like, 554 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 18: never value, I'm never leaving Queens left, He's gone. 555 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 6: So you know, there's another I just saw. 556 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 18: I don't know if they're going to publish this or not, 557 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 18: but I just saw this study anticipating what happens if 558 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 18: mom Donnie gets elected, and it's upwards of ten percent 559 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 18: of the state of New York will leave if Mom 560 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 18: Donnie gets elected. 561 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 3: That's a ridiculous. 562 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 6: Amount of people. 563 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 18: And what happens when that Yeah, when that occurs, that 564 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 18: outward migration occurs. Same thing we saw in California until 565 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 18: the Hispanic vote started to shift a bit more dramatically. 566 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 18: These voters they go and they vote with their feet 567 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 18: and they go to North Carolina, they go to Florida, 568 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 18: they go to Georgia, and they vote Republican. So unfortunately, 569 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 18: you know, I would I would almost give this analogy 570 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 18: to like a short sail, you know, when a company 571 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 18: or or selling, when a company needs liquidity and they're 572 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 18: in they're in a selling crisis. 573 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 6: We were just talking about this on social media in 574 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 6: my group. 575 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 18: They keep selling to get more liquidity, which causes the 576 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 18: price to you know, the stock to just keep going 577 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 18: down and down, and that ends up in a crisis 578 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 18: and a tailspin and then there's no floor. And I mean, 579 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 18: of course I hope that doesn't happen, but unfortunately we 580 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 18: have seen this time and time again. 581 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you on that. Let's take a 582 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: look at Virginia. Now, Virginia, I love win some seers. 583 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: I think she's a great Canada. I think she'd make 584 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: a great governor. Why is she not getting the traction 585 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: that Glenn Youngkin got. 586 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 3: Four years ago. 587 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 18: I think Youngkin ran an almost flawless campaign. I mean, 588 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 18: there is also the States voting tradition which is the opposite. 589 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 18: We're against Democrats in New Jersey, but in here, in 590 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 18: the case of Virginia, they have a very long tradition 591 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 18: of electing the party for governor that is the opposite 592 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 18: party of the White House that just won in the 593 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 18: preceding election, the presidential election. 594 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 6: So this is an uphill battle for Sears. 595 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 18: But I do think there's something to be said for 596 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 18: a little bit of a lesson and know your audience. 597 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 18: We were actually analyzing this how much money went toward 598 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 18: different messaging and what you know, what what ads they 599 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 18: were running in the message they were presenting, and while 600 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 18: the polls and all the research was screaming that people 601 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 18: were saying, like everywhere else in the country, cost of living, 602 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 18: cost of living, cost of living, she was focused on 603 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 18: urch airy issues like the trans issue. 604 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 6: Glenn Youngkin, he walked into. 605 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 18: Bubblegum at the same time and he was this is 606 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 18: a special kind of campaign, you know, not that many 607 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 18: campaigns could be, you know, given the accolades that Glenn 608 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 18: Youngkin can. I mean, he made grocery store prices and 609 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,719 Speaker 18: other prices and cost of living issues the number one 610 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 18: while never letting go of those other issues. And there 611 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 18: were specific events in loud And County that year dealing 612 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 18: with schools that amplified that message when he talked about 613 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 18: the trans issues. 614 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 6: So I think she just missed the mark. 615 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 18: I think it was, you know, a lesson of knowing 616 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,719 Speaker 18: your audience, knowing it well well. 617 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: I placed a bet on Calshie that the Democrats would 618 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: not sweep Sweet and a twenty dollars bet on Calcy 619 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: that the Democrats would not sweep New York, New Jersey 620 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: or New York now pays one hundred dollars. So it's 621 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: looking like a twenty percent chance that they don't sweep 622 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: an eighty percent chance that they do. Yeah, I think 623 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: that you're legit real quick, probably right. 624 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 6: Rich, I think that's probably right. 625 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 11: I do. 626 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 6: I again, though I would not count Jack out. I 627 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 6: really wouldn't. 628 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 18: He's a great retail politician, and we already know he's overperformed. 629 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 6: I just didn't like the early vote numbers that I saw. 630 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 18: Not that Democrats doing gangbuster job either, It's just that 631 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 18: there was there's some very real Virginia too, some very 632 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 18: real issues with Republicans being able to get out these 633 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 18: Trump voters that are low prop voters and then to 634 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 18: my surprise in the last week, even some of the 635 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 18: three out of four US and four out of fours, 636 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 18: we're not showing up where I was really needing to 637 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 18: see them. 638 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 3: If you want to win, you gotta show up. We 639 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,239 Speaker 3: gotta show up. Always. Always great to have you out 640 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 3: of program. 641 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 6: Thanks all the best. 642 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely you two. All right. 643 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,239 Speaker 1: Gold is up around forty percent this year, and if 644 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: your portion of your savings isn't diversified into gold, you're 645 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: missing the boat. 646 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 3: Here's the facts. 647 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: Inflation is still too high, the US dollars still too weak, 648 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: and the government debt is insurmountable. This is why central 649 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: banks are flocking to gold. They're the ones driving prices 650 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: up to record highs. But it's not too late to 651 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: buy gold from Birch Gold Group. They'll help you convert 652 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: an existing IRA or four to one k into attack 653 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: sheltered IRA and gold. 654 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: Get started. 655 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: Just text America to the number nine nine eight. Claim 656 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: you're free. infoKit. There's no obligation, just useful information. Text 657 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: America to the number nine eight. 658 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 3: All right. 659 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: Up next, a friend of ours confronts I'm not so 660 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: big friend of ours, not Maduro, somebody else. 661 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 19: We'll get to that next flok's next up on. 662 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: The who should be charged perad would certainly in my 663 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: mind be John Brennan, the former director of the CIA. 664 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: He was an integral part of the attempted coup of America. Well, 665 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 1: Congress has referred to the DOJ for lying to Congress. 666 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 1: But one of our regulars here, a long time career 667 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: intelligence guy, Tom Especiale, confronted Brennan, you gotta see this, 668 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: why think. 669 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 3: And you misrepresented that. 670 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 20: We never said it was the suspasion said it was 671 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 20: Russian influence operations, which is what they do. 672 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 3: The difference between no, you don't know that, you filing 673 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 3: all the cub. 674 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: Hell top smiling after it. Brennan looks like a child 675 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: on the playground. So as we said it was a 676 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: Russian influence operation, anybody who looked at that Hunter Biden 677 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 1: laptop knew that was not Russian influence. 678 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 12: It was legit. 679 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you didn't have to even be an intel 680 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: guy to figure that out. I want to bring in 681 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: now the man you just saw, thirty year career Army 682 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: intelligence officer, senior US Intelligence professional and senior collection strategists 683 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: on domestic terrorism and ODN I from October twenty twenty 684 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: to January twenty at twenty twenty one. It's a long intro, 685 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: too long. Thomas Speciale is with us. Thomas, welcome to 686 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: the program. Hey, it's good to be here. Thanks for 687 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: having me. Well, I saw that and I said, oh 688 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 1: my gosh, I gotta get you one because you said, 689 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: why did you do that letter about the Hunter Biden laptop? 690 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 3: What did you make of his response? 691 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 21: I'm a career interrogator, I've been you know, I'm trained 692 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 21: to make provocative statements and see how people react and. 693 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 11: And what that wasn't planned. 694 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 21: That's just kind of what naturally came out is, you know, 695 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 21: why would you sign that memo with everybody knowing that 696 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 21: the Hunter Biden laptop was legitimate? Why would you do that? 697 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 21: And I believe the answer is very clear. You know, 698 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 21: the Morell email basically lays it all out. We want 699 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 21: to give Biden a talking point in the debate on 700 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 21: this Hunter Biden laptop, and we need your help. And 701 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 21: I think that they made a catastrophic error in doing so, 702 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 21: because what they did was is they, for all intents 703 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 21: and purposes, they Kentuck conducted offensive counterintelligence against the American people. 704 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 21: These guys are trained intelligence officers. They knew exactly what 705 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 21: to say and exactly how to. 706 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 11: Get it out into the media. 707 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 21: And then Biden was probably told exactly what to say 708 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 21: in response, and it was it was done, you know. 709 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 21: And I make very clear, folks, this is not about 710 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 21: This is not about what they did to Trump or 711 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 21: what they did to Carter Page, or even what they 712 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 21: did to Michael Flynn. They did all of these things 713 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 21: that they did to us. They did all these disinformation campaigns. 714 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 3: All these lies. 715 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 11: They did it to the electorate to steal the election, 716 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 11: to take the election. 717 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: It wasn't just that interaction. And I love that you 718 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: have a beer in your hand, by the way, that's 719 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: like the best part, because disarmy. 720 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 3: I mean, well, of course it is. 721 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: And I also think it's it's it's disarming. 722 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 3: I mean, I know you could use this weapon. 723 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 1: But more than that, I used to walk into confrontational 724 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: interviews with a cup of coffee in my hand, just 725 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 1: to show that I'm not all worried about the interview 726 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: as a way, and so I love that aspect of it. 727 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: But you also confronted him while he was on stage. 728 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: Let me play this clip for everybody. 729 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 20: I would like to hear what your justification was for 730 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 20: supporting the dossier that was known to be false being 731 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 20: used as source material in the second ica, I don't know. 732 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 3: Who put you up to this. 733 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 11: Nobody put me up to. 734 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 15: This or I'm here on what role you played or 735 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 15: who I Want's a bunch of that you just passed on. 736 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,240 Speaker 11: Absolutely, the emails are clear. So the emails are clear. 737 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 11: The emails are clear. 738 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: The second question, you nailed them, and you could tell 739 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: from his body language he knows you nailed him. 740 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 11: Thomas, Yeah, yeah, the uh, this was totally not planned 741 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 11: on my part. 742 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 21: It was like by accident that I saw this event 743 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 21: a couple of days before it. 744 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 11: I registered. 745 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 21: I was hoping to get maybe a side you know, 746 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 21: sidebar conversation and ask it privately, but then they opened 747 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 21: the floor to questions and I wasn't sure. 748 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 11: You know, a lot of these really high profile guests don't. 749 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 21: Stick around for the reception afterwards, so I just took 750 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 21: the opportunity to ask it publicly. It wasn't my intent 751 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 21: to create this big kerfuffle on the internet, but you know, 752 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 21: and that's why I kind of laugh about it, because 753 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 21: you know, all I was trying to find out was 754 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 21: is the the that Tulsi Gabbert has released these emails? 755 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 21: Are you know, Admiral Rogers telling the Toomy and Clapper 756 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 21: and Brennan. I'm not comfortable with signing off on this 757 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 21: ICA because there's nothing in the reporting that supports some 758 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 21: of the things you guys are saying. And he says, 759 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 21: I'm not going to sign it, my people aren't going 760 00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 21: to sign it, and you know, and and so it's 761 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 21: very telling that he did not immediately say, you know, 762 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 21: you don't know what. 763 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 11: You're talking about. He just basically went after why I 764 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:08,879 Speaker 11: was there? 765 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 3: Real quick? 766 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: If you can the ICA for when home is the 767 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: Intelligence Community assessment which was used at Barack Obama said 768 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: go back and change it, which is just literally ridiculous, 769 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: real quick? Should he be charged with one line to Congress? 770 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: Is there anything else he can be charged with? Can 771 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: you do that in thirty seconds? For me? 772 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 11: I don't know what you can charge him with. 773 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 21: I don't think you can charge him with treason because 774 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 21: it has to be on behalf of another government or 775 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 21: to the benefit of another government. I think that they 776 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 21: may pursue seditious conspiracy charges because clearly there was an 777 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 21: atmosphere of sedition against Trump. And you know, I'm not 778 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 21: convinced that Obama said go back and change the ICA. 779 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 21: The first ICA was a cyber ica only about Russian 780 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 21: hacking the election, and the second ICA was more of 781 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 21: a wholesome intelligence community assessment of and I think that 782 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 21: that was really at the request of Brennan and Komi 783 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 21: because they wanted to lay the record down that the 784 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 21: Russians had influenced the election. 785 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: Well, it's fascinating stuff. I'm grateful to you for you 786 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 1: going and confront of me. I'd say having the kahonas 787 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: to do it. I know you have the kahona you 788 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 1: did a longtime Army guy. 789 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 3: I'll give you this tip. 790 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to watch Friday Night, Thomas, because I've 791 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: got my other longtime Army guy who was an intelligence 792 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: operative specialized in interrogation as well, and he's a body 793 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 1: language expert. 794 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 3: We do body language every day. 795 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna do the body language of Brennan both squirming 796 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: in the chair and pointing his finger at you. So 797 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: that should be fun. We'll do that Friday night, Thomas, specially. 798 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: As always, thank you, my friend. 799 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 11: No, thank you ether, thank you, sir, all right, I 800 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 11: have a good night. 801 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely you two. 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There is 816 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 3: a solution next, flks. 817 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: There's nothing worse than having pain all over, like even 818 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:47,879 Speaker 1: run over by a truck. 819 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 3: Watch this. 820 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 22: I have Ellers danloads, which is a rare connective tissue disorder. 821 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 22: I remember waking up in the morning and everything hurt. 822 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 22: There wasn't a part of me that didn't hurt, and 823 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 22: I cried out to God and I said. 824 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 12: Lord, is this going to be the rest of my life? 825 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,240 Speaker 22: I was watching Wayne Allen and he talked about energized Health, 826 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 22: and I thought, where do I have to this. I've 827 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 22: gone from taking three narcotic pain medications in the last 828 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 22: three weeks, I've taken zero. Thank you, John and Chelsea. 829 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 22: This program is absolutely changing my life. 830 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 1: Well, she's talking about John and Chelsea Jubilee, the founders 831 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: of Energized Health, which is literally changing people's lives, including 832 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: my own. I keep telling you I lost fifteen pounds 833 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: in two weeks on the Energized Health Protocol and have 834 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:40,919 Speaker 1: kept it off. 835 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 3: John Jubilee, welcome back to the show. Be here. 836 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 23: Wow, come on, that's an awesome testimony. 837 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 17: Right. 838 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 23: Can you imagine Grant being on three narcotic prescription narcotic 839 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 23: how much pain you have to be in and go 840 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 23: from all that pain to being pain free with nomads? 841 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 3: All right? 842 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: And so her story is not totally unique, John, You've 843 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,240 Speaker 1: got a lot of stories like this as a result 844 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: of the Energized Health Protocol. 845 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 3: Oh, it is. 846 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,959 Speaker 23: And you know, and I want people to think about 847 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 23: this for a moment now. Most people have probably never 848 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 23: heard of that disorder. It's very rare, but it's on 849 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 23: the autoimmune list. And you may have heard of rheumatoried 850 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 23: arthritis that's an autoimmune disorder, or hashimotos But anything in 851 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 23: the autoimmune we reverse it. And Grant ninety nine percent 852 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 23: of people their doctor has told them you cannot reverse 853 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 23: an autoimmune disorder. You can just deal with the pain, 854 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 23: deal with the symptoms, but you're never going to reverse it. 855 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 23: But I want to say something on behalf of doctors though. 856 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 23: We have hundreds of doctors who have become our client Grant, 857 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 23: and those doctors over all the years, many of them 858 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 23: have become my friend, and they say to me, John, 859 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 23: this is what we should have learned in medical school. 860 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 23: They should be teaching going to the root cause, like 861 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 23: you do, pushing out inflammation, pushing out toxins. You're going 862 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 23: to the root cause. I wish I would have learned 863 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 23: this in medical school. 864 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 3: You know, it's amazing. 865 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: So you're not just talking about losing body fat, right, 866 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: you talk about losing pain in your joints, which is amazing. 867 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: You talk about is autoimmune disorders. You mentioned arthritis. I 868 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: imagine this helps with people suffering from that too, John. 869 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 23: Well, anyone that has arthritis, if you have joint pain, Grant, 870 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 23: I'm going to raise my hand here for people to 871 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 23: let them know that when I did this twenty eight 872 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,240 Speaker 23: years ago, Grant, I didn't care one bit about losing 873 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,919 Speaker 23: any fat. Now I had fact to lose, by the way, 874 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 23: and I did lose about forty pounds of fat. So 875 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 23: I did lose fat, but I was not goal set 876 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 23: on losing the fat. All I cared about, Grant, is 877 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 23: I wanted to feel better. I was in pain. Every 878 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 23: step of my life was a step of pain. I 879 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 23: was bone on bone of both of my knees. I 880 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 23: have high blood pressure, I had hypertension, and that just 881 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 23: sucks the energy out of a man or a woman. 882 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 23: All I cared about, Grant was could I feel better? 883 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 3: And it just so happened. 884 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 23: Not only did I feel better, but I did lose 885 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 23: ten inches in my waist, I gained a lot of 886 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 23: muscle and hydration, and I did change my appearance. 887 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 1: You got a ninety nine percent plus success rate a 888 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 1: money back guarantee, John, I'm gonna tell people how they 889 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: can get in touch. 890 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 3: With you and your team over at Energized Health. 891 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: So folks, if you've been stuck in the cycle of dieting, 892 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 1: gaining and feeling frustrated, it is time for a new path. 893 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 3: Do what I did. 894 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 1: Go to energizedhealth dot com. 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That's energizedhealth dot com. 898 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 1: All right, we're back with a few final thoughts, folks. 899 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: With every success that President Trump has, every failure in California, 900 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 1: Gavenussom is getting desperate and then he comes up with 901 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 1: doozies like this. 902 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 3: Nothing I dislike more than the politician that sits there 903 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,879 Speaker 3: and lies to you and we all just sit there, 904 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 3: roll in our eyes. Go and give me a break, 905 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,320 Speaker 3: Give me a break like that Gavin Newsome, He just 906 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 3: lied to you. 907 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: All he does is lie. Remember covid'll kill you. Don't 908 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 1: go out in public. Oh, let's go to the French 909 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: laundry and have a wild party. That guy's a piece 910 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: of work man, he really is. Stinchfield's army rolls. We 911 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: will see you back here tomorrow night. Actually, special election 912 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: night coverage with Steve Bannon, it'll be