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Speaker 2: DP show. The Big Parade coming up on Thursday in
Speaker 2: New York. This is one of those if you're a
Speaker 2: New Yorker, you know where to go and not go.
Speaker 3: You gotta be careful.
Speaker 2: School's out, but you know there's certain places where you're
Speaker 2: gonna go, Oh the parade rat And I've been caught
Speaker 2: in that one time before, where you think that you're
Speaker 2: going to be able to escape and you can't, and
Speaker 2: then you're kind of stuck and if you're not moving
Speaker 2: for a couple hours. But it's a good problem to
Speaker 2: have if you're a New Yorker with this celebration. I
Speaker 2: think estimates are close to four million people who might
Speaker 2: be showing up. It might be more than that. I
Speaker 2: didn't realize there were this many Knicks fans. But once again,
Speaker 2: I have a friend I've known for twenty seven years.
Speaker 2: He shows up, had a playing golf, had a Knicks
Speaker 2: hat on Nick's shirt, and I go, I didn't know
Speaker 2: you were a Knicks fan. Well, I never had any
Speaker 2: reason to, you know, tell you, I said, okay, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 4: They'll never be a big a parading history of New
Speaker 4: York sports, right, Well, because every other fan base is split.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, because I was thinking, you know, we've
Speaker 2: seen a giant parade, Rangers parade. The Jets and Mets
Speaker 2: would not be the same, just because, as you said,
Speaker 2: you're kind of split the you know, the Knicks own
Speaker 2: New York and the Five boroughs. But yeah, this would
Speaker 2: probably be Even if the Jets somehow won a Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: I don't it would not top with the Knicks just did, yes, d'lan.
Speaker 5: But I think there's also the space between wins factor,
Speaker 5: Like if the Knicks, when say they repeated next year,
Speaker 5: I feel like that will be automatically a less attended
Speaker 5: parade than this one. You mean when they repeat, sorry
Speaker 5: when they threepeat. Don't be hating on the Knicks when
Speaker 5: my Knicks threepeat. You don't want social media coming after
Speaker 5: you like they are with me.
Speaker 6: They've got some people in the building who might be
Speaker 6: coming after me.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's true. But you know, the parade
Speaker 2: will be on Thursday in New York City. The Hurricanes,
Speaker 2: their parade will be on Saturday. Brendan's orders me heading
Speaker 2: to the supplemental Draft. We spent some time with Mike
Speaker 2: Florio from Pro Football Talk on everything surrounding this. Does
Speaker 2: the NFL punish him? Do they wait until he goes
Speaker 2: to a team? Will that team know that there's a
Speaker 2: chance see that The NFL has got to let these
Speaker 2: teams know, and obviously Brendan soresby if they're doing a
Speaker 2: deep dive on him coming into the league. Given all
Speaker 2: the pearl clutching that we have now with gambling, I
Speaker 2: think you've got to let those teams know. You can't
Speaker 2: be drafting somebody and all and give up a second
Speaker 2: round draft pick and all of a sudden, the NFL goes,
Speaker 2: you know, we're not going to let him play that
Speaker 2: first year. I mean they did this Terrell prior and
Speaker 2: you know head coach Jim Tressel when you know Tressel
Speaker 2: got fired by Ohio State and then trying to come
Speaker 2: into the NFL, he had to serve a suspension as well,
Speaker 2: and this was under his watch that his football players
Speaker 2: were trading in some of their gear for tattoos. Brendan
Speaker 2: Sowersby is coming in and his charges allegations a whole
Speaker 2: lot more serious than that.
Speaker 7: Yes, Pauline Marvin brought this up in the break and
Speaker 7: I hadn't thought about it before. Is it worse that
Speaker 7: he's a quarterback?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because we just found out that the Patriots
Speaker 2: have a wide receiver who admitted to gambling when he
Speaker 2: was at LSU, Keyshawn Booty. He admitted now he was
Speaker 2: already in the NFL. Yeah, I think it was a
Speaker 2: year in and then admitted that he was gambling on LSU.
Speaker 2: But the quarterback is the face of the franchise. Quarterbacks
Speaker 2: are the faces of the league. That's why it's different, Yes, Dylan, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think you.
Speaker 6: Might start seeing that more and more.
Speaker 5: And it's kind of like when the NBA changed their
Speaker 5: drug testing policies and became more lenient with like weed
Speaker 5: and stuff. A lot of former players were like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I was smoking weed the whole time. I think you
Speaker 5: might see that a little bit with retroactively players saying like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I was betting, not necessarily on the sport or this team,
Speaker 5: but back in college whenever.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. It's still if. Well,
Speaker 2: to me, you're betting on your team. Are you sharing
Speaker 2: the information? That's why, you know when people said, you know,
Speaker 2: Pete Rose had never admitted to betting on the Reds
Speaker 2: until he was on the radio show with me, and
Speaker 2: he shocked me. He said, look, I didn't bet against
Speaker 2: the Reds. I bet on the Reds to win, as
Speaker 2: if that would mitigate the Hey, that guy man, he
Speaker 2: really believed in his team. He thought that this was
Speaker 2: a yeah, big deal. I bet on my team to win.
Speaker 2: You know, well you can't, and are you manipulating the lineup?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 2: Was Brendan Soresby sharing information? Hey, I bet on Indiana football? Okay,
Speaker 2: what did you know? Did you ask for information? Wasn't playing?
Speaker 2: But once again, I just can't go down that road
Speaker 2: right now. Like Camp, I'd have to have a deep dive.
Speaker 2: I'd have to have all the information. You can be
Speaker 2: a great talent, and you know it's a sliding scale.
Speaker 2: You know what's your baggage and how talented are you?
Speaker 2: And we've seen sports will bend over backwards when somebody's
Speaker 2: really talented and they got baggage. In this case at
Speaker 2: that position, can't take a chance on it. And this
Speaker 2: might be one of those where, man, you could have
Speaker 2: had him for a second round draft pick. You're right
Speaker 2: about that, You're right, But I got to sleep at night.
Speaker 2: I can't have somebody who's betting on the sport that
Speaker 2: they're playing. Can't deal breaker.
Speaker 7: Yeah, pull and Soorsby is so hot and toxic right
Speaker 7: now that these teams would have to make this decision
Speaker 7: in weeks. If he played this season, Texas Tech won
Speaker 7: a lot of games, he played great football, the story
Speaker 7: would cool and other stories would take over, and he'd
Speaker 7: go into the NFL draft with baggage, but not like
Speaker 7: white hot baggag.
Speaker 2: Well, also, with all this pressure on him, all eyes
Speaker 2: on him, what if he doesn't play well? So now
Speaker 2: he's taken himself out of being a first round draft pick.
Speaker 2: This might be the best of both worlds for everybody involved.
Speaker 2: Now Texas Tech can move on save face the Big twelve,
Speaker 2: flexed its muscles. Soresby can get his money, he can
Speaker 2: go to the supplemental draft. Maybe he gets drafted, Maybe
Speaker 2: he goes to rehab or continues his you know, rehab
Speaker 2: process here for the first year. Maybe, But boy, what
Speaker 2: a whirldwind tour this has been in the last couple
Speaker 2: of weeks. Yeah, Dylan, And that's sort of like.
Speaker 5: The same thing I said about Deshaun Watson when all
Speaker 5: that stuff happened he signed with Cleveland.
Speaker 6: I was like, he's done.
Speaker 5: I mean, for all intents and purposes, I just think
Speaker 5: some things mentally, the stuff you're going to hear game
Speaker 5: in game out. Soresby would have had the same thing
Speaker 5: playing at Texas Tech. I find you're at best fighting
Speaker 5: in uphill battle every game that you wouldn't be otherwise.
Speaker 2: But if Deshaun Watson played well well, no one would
Speaker 2: it would I mean.
Speaker 3: People would have a problem with it.
Speaker 2: Michael Vick came back, came out of prison, and Andy
Speaker 2: Reid took him, you know in and he played pretty well,
Speaker 2: and I think fans moved past that or compartmentalized that that, Hey,
Speaker 2: I don't like that he did that killing dogs, but
Speaker 2: he's still pretty good football player.
Speaker 5: And he served his time, Yes, he did, which and
Speaker 5: was a substantial amount actually compared to what a lot
Speaker 5: of other things get. So it's like, I mean, isn't
Speaker 5: that the whole point of rehabilitation and stuff where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: you you served your time.
Speaker 6: He paid your.
Speaker 5: Price, like it can't be held against you forever. Some
Speaker 5: guys just don't end up paying any price.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Deshaun Watson paid a price, like literally paid a price.
Speaker 2: But it's not like he went to prison. But you know,
Speaker 2: he had a huge contract, a contract that he couldn't
Speaker 2: turn down. And there were other teams Atlanta was interested
Speaker 2: in Deshaun Watson. There are other teams that would have
Speaker 2: taken him in. It's just it's a sliding scale. If
Speaker 2: Brendan Soresby can play, I'm not going to say people
Speaker 2: will look past that, but I think that this whole
Speaker 2: temperature that's really hot now will cool down a little
Speaker 2: bit once. We don't stay focused very long on things.
Speaker 2: We move quickly. You're we're on this, Oh it's so important,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden boom, next topic, and
Speaker 2: then there'll be another topic that comes up.
Speaker 3: Yes, dealing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would argue that like this might actually be
Speaker 5: best case scenario football wise for Sores, because, like you said,
Speaker 5: the Texas the season at Texas Tech would be I mean,
Speaker 5: they're loaded with question marks right now. Right now, there's
Speaker 5: a supplemental draft for the NFL. He's all just potential
Speaker 5: and just I'm talking about on the field stuff. So
Speaker 5: it's like it's not like he even has the chance
Speaker 5: to have a down season at Texas Tech. And then
Speaker 5: compare that with the gambling stuff. Right now, it's just
Speaker 5: like he has this one gambling thing, but as far
Speaker 5: as skill, it's like, you know, limitless potential.
Speaker 3: Well, he's out of options. I don't think he was
Speaker 3: going to be able to play at Texas Tech, no,
Speaker 3: but I.
Speaker 5: Think this actually could work out nicely for him if
Speaker 5: a team does decide to.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he gets the nil money.
Speaker 2: And if you go into the NFL, maybe they can
Speaker 2: hide you for a year or two and maybe you
Speaker 2: begin the process of rehabilitation or you continue it. You're
Speaker 2: on a practice squad, you're not in front of people.
Speaker 2: Then it'll be the guy who Oh yeah, that's the guy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he was gambling, and then we'll move on.
Speaker 5: Yes, deal, and it could just end up being a
Speaker 5: possible redemption story. Not going to be immediately, but yeah.
Speaker 2: If he can help others with warning signs. And I've
Speaker 2: mentioned that eighteen to twenty four. You know, you got
Speaker 2: boys who are gambling, and that's the sweet spot here. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: where you get a little money, maybe you get a
Speaker 2: credit card, maybe you're at school, maybe you're betting through
Speaker 2: somebody else. That's that's where we got a real problem.
Speaker 2: Surface got a real problem here. Guaranteed the number of
Speaker 2: times I've been tempted to gamble and I haven't placed
Speaker 2: a bet in over forty years, but I can tell
Speaker 2: you there are so many times when I go, God,
Speaker 2: I bet that, Oh man, I take the points and
Speaker 2: the word. You know, the worst thing that could happen
Speaker 2: is that I'd win. The last bet I ever placed,
Speaker 2: I lost thirty three hundred dollars.
Speaker 9: That's it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to bet. I don't I don't have
Speaker 2: money when I play golf. I don't want it. I
Speaker 2: don't I don't want to be around it. I don't
Speaker 2: like hearing when somebody bets. We do the gambling podcast,
Speaker 2: and it's kind of making fun of just how bad
Speaker 2: Dylan and Shay are as gamblers. But you know, it's
Speaker 2: a real big problem in America and all of these leagues,
Speaker 2: every single one of them. Yes, I'm getting on my
Speaker 2: soapbox because I want to keep reminding you parents out
Speaker 2: there or kids, keep it light. You can have fun
Speaker 2: with this, but you'll never win. You'll never beat them.
Speaker 3: Never.
Speaker 2: If you if you get fifty three percent of your
Speaker 2: bets correct, you are doing great. But I I know
Speaker 2: what that feeling is like, and it's there, and I'm
Speaker 2: tempted all the time because there. I mean, how many
Speaker 2: times have I said to you, Dylan, God, I would
Speaker 2: I I'm saying to you, man, I would have taken
Speaker 2: Like the Spurs in Game three, I go, I just
Speaker 2: think they're gonna win, and you know, I don't want
Speaker 2: to bet because I know what happens, and then you
Speaker 2: bet again, and then you bet again.
Speaker 6: Even yesterday, You're like, Kate Vernon is probably gonna tie Spain.
Speaker 3: I thought that they could stay in the match and
Speaker 3: it's Kate vered.
Speaker 6: Sorry, Cabo Van, Yeah, yeah, Pauline, I think.
Speaker 7: The toughest part for Soresby is going to be to
Speaker 7: convince people that he's real and altruistic with his rehab,
Speaker 7: because a lot of media and a lot of fans
Speaker 7: think he concocted things to get back to playing college football.
Speaker 7: He's got to prove that wrong. I don't know how
Speaker 7: you do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, There'll be a lot of questions, and I
Speaker 2: don't know. You can't have somebody be evasive, like I
Speaker 2: have to have you. You tell me because I'll have your back,
Speaker 2: but you got to tell me everything I need to
Speaker 2: know here.
Speaker 3: And we have invited him on just to let you know.
Speaker 2: Fritzy's reached out a couple of times, and wisely he
Speaker 2: hasn't decided to come on the show now. He might eventually,
Speaker 2: but maybe now when you're going into the supplemental draft,
Speaker 2: let let people hear from you, but let them hear
Speaker 2: in your voice. How do you sound? Are you contrite?
Speaker 2: You feel bad? Feel bad? You got caught?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Did Cincinnati rat you out? Did you bet on Cincinnati
Speaker 2: when you were playing for Cincinnati. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: questions and probably some questions that he doesn't want to
Speaker 2: give answers to. What's the whole question for hour two. Well, Dan,
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this earlier. Should championship parades be
Speaker 2: on the weekend as a matter of course, Well, in
Speaker 2: New York, everybody's in New York, so you're gonna you
Speaker 2: already have an audience there, a captive audience. I'm okay
Speaker 2: in New York during the week now. If I'm a boss,
Speaker 2: you know, and I've got employees, I go, hey, where's everybody. Oh,
Speaker 2: the parade. They come back banged up after that. I
Speaker 2: might have a problem with that. But I know a
Speaker 2: couple of guys here in the building, one to go
Speaker 2: to the Knicks parade, and I said, well, we got
Speaker 2: a job to do here. Okay, Bob back there, the
Speaker 2: diehard Knicks fan, he knows he's got a job to do,
Speaker 2: and we'll do it.
Speaker 5: I was going to ask you about that, and actually
Speaker 5: I have a solution. You send them to the parade.
Speaker 5: But it's the Hurricanes parade.
Speaker 7: Care yes, Bully, a couple of things on the Knicks parade.
Speaker 7: My first thought was, do you have it on a
Speaker 7: Thursday to keep them because you may not be able
Speaker 7: to handle a Saturday parade when everyone's available. And also,
Speaker 7: isn't the US Open at Shinnacock this upcoming weekend. I
Speaker 7: don't think they would want to make fans choose between
Speaker 7: the two.
Speaker 3: Well, but that's out on Long Island.
Speaker 7: True, But I guess I'm saying to split the sports
Speaker 7: fans from one event to another. If you do it Thursday,
Speaker 7: you're still air quotes supporting the Shinnacock.
Speaker 2: Well, the crowds at Shinnacock and the crowds at a
Speaker 2: Knicks parade will be vastly different.
Speaker 6: Why please?
Speaker 5: Yes, you don't think they're going to torture bus on
Speaker 5: the eleventh till at Shinnacock.
Speaker 3: Well, I hope not.
Speaker 5: That would be That would be an interesting Long Island railroad,
Speaker 5: this mix of Knicks fans and US Open fans going
Speaker 5: opposite directions.
Speaker 2: Just heard from Brendan Soresby's agent. We won't not be
Speaker 2: doing any media until after his pro day. So his
Speaker 2: agent just got back to Todd. Uh Todd, if you
Speaker 2: can hear me, if you're feeling okay, can you ask
Speaker 2: when Brendan Soresby's pro day is going to be, just
Speaker 2: so we don't bother them with interview requests. But we
Speaker 2: do know he's having a pro day, so Todd asked
Speaker 2: his agent, if you can Todd not with us today
Speaker 2: under the weather, but he's still part of the show.
Speaker 7: Hell yeah, Pauling, the agent's email back to Todd, actually
Speaker 7: says thanks.
Speaker 3: Tod, Thanks Todd.
Speaker 2: If he would have said thank you, Todd, then I'd go, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, maybe there's a chance we're going.
Speaker 3: To get this gun.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll get phone calls coming up. We'll talk
Speaker 2: to the Knicks forward Michale Bridges. He'll join us coming
Speaker 2: up in an hour from now. But we make way
Speaker 2: for Tim Legler. Did a wonderful job with the NBA
Speaker 2: Finals with the Mothership. He'll join us next right after this.
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Speaker 2: the hour. I refuse to let Tim Legler start his
Speaker 2: summer vacation without coming on one more time. ESPN Lead
Speaker 2: NBA analyst Tim, Thank you. I never thought I would
Speaker 2: say this, that the younger team seemed more tired and
Speaker 2: certainly wemby at the end of most of these games.
Speaker 2: How much do you think that played a role in
Speaker 2: all the comebacks that the Knicks had.
Speaker 11: I think fatigue factored in Dan. I definitely think that
Speaker 11: was the case. We commented on it during the broadcast,
Speaker 11: but I think more than anything, it was an uncertain
Speaker 11: and a lack of identity in those moments that determine
Speaker 11: the games. I really think that was the biggest factor.
Speaker 11: And experience is a big part. You've got some more
Speaker 11: veteran players on the Knicks, and but for me, it
Speaker 11: starts with your identity where you want to go when
Speaker 11: the games on the line. The Knicks have no questions
Speaker 11: whatsoever in that regard. It's going to be Jeleen Brunson.
Speaker 11: He's going to determine it. Everybody plays off of him,
Speaker 11: and the San Antonio Spurs had moments where they kind
Speaker 11: of looked around at each other unsure about what exactly
Speaker 11: it is that they wanted to do. And I think,
Speaker 11: look part of that is Mitch Johnson also a very
Speaker 11: young coach going through it for the first time, but
Speaker 11: he has limitations as a coach if some of his
Speaker 11: players have some limitations in those moments, and they do,
Speaker 11: and that is now the next step for this group.
Speaker 11: They've got their three best players are twenty two and under.
Speaker 11: They've got to address look in the mirror and address
Speaker 11: some of the things that they need to improve. A
Speaker 11: girl pond, so they won't be in that situation anymore
Speaker 11: where they don't have answers.
Speaker 9: Late in games because that the difference in the series.
Speaker 3: Did Victor Winbtniyama have a good finals, Yeah, he.
Speaker 11: Had a good finals. Well, he didn't have a sensational finals.
Speaker 11: He wasn't the best player on the floor. They probably
Speaker 11: needed him to be more often, particularly in the fourth
Speaker 11: quarters of games. I'm not gonna say he didn't have
Speaker 11: a good finals. I think he did, and I think
Speaker 11: there were times that he went through stretches where he
Speaker 11: had dominance, but it was for short bursts more so
Speaker 11: than sustaining it throughout the forty eight minutes and certainly
Speaker 11: in those moments that determined this series. That I think
Speaker 11: is where his biggest challenge comes from. And look, we
Speaker 11: talked about it before. He's seven to four. It's not
Speaker 11: like he could just bring the ball up, operate eve
Speaker 11: of the ball screen as the ball handler or gisco
Speaker 11: iso from wherever he wants in the floor like most
Speaker 11: of the elite scorers.
Speaker 9: In this league. It's different for him.
Speaker 11: Doesn't mean he can't be equally dominant. I just think
Speaker 11: there's an area of the floor he hasn't mastered yet
Speaker 11: that he has to, and it's that area from fifteen
Speaker 11: to twenty feet in that dirt Novitsky type top of
Speaker 11: the key elbows, jab steps, shoot over you, jab step,
Speaker 11: go by you with one dribble. He doesn't really operate
Speaker 11: much in that area of the floor. It's either rim
Speaker 11: runs or he's behind the three point line a lot.
Speaker 11: So I think that's the next step in the evolution
Speaker 11: for Victor webin Yama, and it'll help him decide games.
Speaker 2: Let's look at the immediate futures of both of these teams.
Speaker 2: Start with the Knicks. They're set with their starting five.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they have any pending free agents
Speaker 2: money issues with these guys, so handicap the Knicks going
Speaker 2: into next season.
Speaker 9: Yeah, look, I think the Knicks are now.
Speaker 11: The thing that they've done is they've answered questions that
Speaker 11: maybe they even had internally about themselves. It look the
Speaker 11: path was cleared slightly for them this year with Boston
Speaker 11: missing Tatum for most of the season. Know how le
Speaker 11: Burton in Indiana Detroit doesn't have enough shooting.
Speaker 9: They were exposed for that later. The Cavaliers, we've seen.
Speaker 11: Like that mental toughness that you need is lacking Philly
Speaker 11: was hurt most of the year, So there were things
Speaker 11: that went right, and I'm not trying to dismiss it
Speaker 11: or diminish anything the Knicks did because they played incredible basketball.
Speaker 9: But they took.
Speaker 11: Advantage of the situation, which is what you have to
Speaker 11: do because you never know when these opportunities present themselves.
Speaker 11: So now they look at themselves as champions, they're going
Speaker 11: to feel differently about themselves and their ability to navigate
Speaker 11: any situation going in to next year. There is no
Speaker 11: reason to think that the Knicks can't return to the finals,
Speaker 11: can't have an opportunity to repeat next year. There's no
Speaker 11: doubt in my mind that they're going to be one
Speaker 11: of those teams on a very short list of teams
Speaker 11: that could win a championship next year.
Speaker 2: And then the Spurs. You've talked about their young players.
Speaker 2: I mean, you do have the deer and Fox question
Speaker 2: because now he's going to be your highest paid player
Speaker 2: by far.
Speaker 3: Can you use him differently? Maybe?
Speaker 11: I think you can, And I also think people out
Speaker 11: there that now want to take it to the extreme
Speaker 11: and oh, you got to move him, you got to
Speaker 11: cut them. You know, you should never see the floor again.
Speaker 11: You know that's just not the way the NBA works.
Speaker 11: The guy's gonna make a lot of money. He's still
Speaker 11: a very good player. There's no doubt he struggled, not
Speaker 11: only in the finals, but during the postseason. I think
Speaker 11: in general he took a step back offensively because he could,
Speaker 11: and he accepted that. But I think that going forward,
Speaker 11: the future is going to be Stefan Castle and Dylan Harper.
Speaker 11: There's no question about that. Now, both of those guys need.
Speaker 9: To continue to prove their offensive games.
Speaker 11: Because Castle improved his like wide open three point shooting.
Speaker 11: I think he was over forty percent after the All
Speaker 11: Star break. That's still a weakness in Dylan Harper's game.
Speaker 11: He can make him in rhythm. But the combination of
Speaker 11: what those guys do offensively and defensively, the pressure they
Speaker 11: put on you in the paint, address their shooting, continue
Speaker 11: to improve that area that is your backcourt. And for
Speaker 11: Dearon Fox, I almost think feel like now he should
Speaker 11: be a guy that's he's still going to play twenty
Speaker 11: five thirty men it's a night. Maybe he's the guy
Speaker 11: that's more anchored to your second unit because I still
Speaker 11: think he is still can be An elite scorer a
Speaker 11: lot of nights. If he's out there more as your
Speaker 11: combo guard off the bench, that might be a better
Speaker 11: role for him.
Speaker 9: But that's a lot of money for a guy coming
Speaker 9: off the bench. I get it.
Speaker 11: But the future is castle in Harper. There's no question
Speaker 11: about that. He's gonna be one of the best backcourts
Speaker 11: in the NBA, like within the next couple of years.
Speaker 11: I think Dylan Harper has a chance to be like
Speaker 11: an All League type of player.
Speaker 9: That's where you need to go. And it was obvious to.
Speaker 11: Me throughout the finals they were a better team when
Speaker 11: Dylan Harper was on the floor.
Speaker 2: Talking to Tim Legler, ESPN lead NBA analyst trying to
Speaker 2: explain the Jalen Brunson ability to close. We had somebody
Speaker 2: call in say, you know, this is like Mamba mentality.
Speaker 2: It's Michael Jordan at the end of games and I
Speaker 2: you know, once again we have a rush to judgment.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a recency buys. Brunson had a fabulous postseason.
Speaker 2: Can you start to put him in any other categories
Speaker 2: here as far as more than just hey, you want
Speaker 2: a title and you're great player. Has he elevated to
Speaker 2: a different platform for you.
Speaker 11: He definitely has, and I mean I don't know that
Speaker 11: it was going to take like this finals run or
Speaker 11: that finals performance in Game five. To me, he's sort
Speaker 11: of already gotten there because of what he's done here
Speaker 11: since he got to New York, and more importantly, the
Speaker 11: way he typically plays in the fourth quarter of games,
Speaker 11: the way that he takes over games, the fact that
Speaker 11: he's completely unfhazed in those moments in the game. That
Speaker 11: speeds guys up in clouds thinking it's difficult to operate
Speaker 11: with that level of pressure on you that efficiently. He's
Speaker 11: done that since he got to New York. Really before that,
Speaker 11: I mean go back to college. Certainly he had a
Speaker 11: playoff run in Dallas where he started to see it.
Speaker 11: Now he's at the point where you go, is there
Speaker 11: anybody else in the league that you trust more with
Speaker 11: the ball in their hands with the game on the line.
Speaker 9: The Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 11: I mean, that's he's he's literally elevated himself to right
Speaker 11: there at the.
Speaker 9: Top of the list.
Speaker 11: If you don't want to say he's, you know, clearly
Speaker 11: the guy. He's certainly on the on that top two
Speaker 11: three guys in the league that you want to ball
Speaker 11: in his hands because what he has shown you is
Speaker 11: he has an ability to process high pressure situations in
Speaker 11: a way that most guys are never capable of getting to.
Speaker 11: And it's amazing because he doesn't do it with anything
Speaker 11: that he's relying on Athletically. It's all based on footwork,
Speaker 11: playing multiple speeds, getting you off balanced, touch, iq strength,
Speaker 11: you name it like that's what it is, but it's not.
Speaker 11: It's not getting off the ground to elevate over guys.
Speaker 11: It's not blowing by guys. It's not a crazy handle.
Speaker 11: It's just an ability.
Speaker 9: To understand where he wants to go, keep you off balance.
Speaker 11: To prevent you from dictating to him anything He dictates
Speaker 11: terms to you whatever is.
Speaker 9: In front of him.
Speaker 11: Very few guys in the league right now can dictate
Speaker 11: to the defense the way that Jalen Brunson can. He's
Speaker 11: never at your mercy, you're always at his. And that's
Speaker 11: a very, very very unique quality to have.
Speaker 2: I think he learned something from Luca because Luca does
Speaker 2: the same thing. You know, he's not blowing by you,
Speaker 2: he's not jumping over you. He has ability. Kawhi had
Speaker 2: had this ability where they kind of create the tempo.
Speaker 2: You go to their speed, and I can't help but
Speaker 2: think that when Jalen was there in Dallas watching what
Speaker 2: Luca was doing, It's basically, I'm going to control the
Speaker 2: tempo as well. I'm going to play the angles. I
Speaker 2: know what I can do when where I can do it.
Speaker 2: You just have to try to figure out getting there
Speaker 2: before I do.
Speaker 11: He has a quality then, and look, you don't and
Speaker 11: you're you know, you're not comparing him to like players
Speaker 11: because they're all so different. But there are guys historically
Speaker 11: in all sports, not just basketball, that have that quality
Speaker 11: of certainty, and man, does that mean a lot to
Speaker 11: a team. Like when your best player is that sure
Speaker 11: of the moment of themselves and their ability to operate
Speaker 11: in those moments and be able to see things at
Speaker 11: the same speed that they do all the rest of
Speaker 11: the time with the game hanging in the balance.
Speaker 9: Is an incredibly rare quality that the greats have had.
Speaker 11: In all of the team sports that we watch and cover,
Speaker 11: and even individual sports like golf, we see guys that
Speaker 11: have that ability, that that laser focus ability to be
Speaker 11: so sure of themselves that you basically take any self
Speaker 11: doubt out.
Speaker 9: Of the equation.
Speaker 11: Now it's all muscle memory, and that's what Jalen Brunson
Speaker 11: has gotten to. He's just in that place where when
Speaker 11: you need to have it, he's going to deliver because
Speaker 11: he's that certain of the outcome. It's really fascinating to watch.
Speaker 11: And he put on a game. He put on a
Speaker 11: show on Game five that we're gonna be talking about
Speaker 11: for years and years and years to come. And that
Speaker 11: series had moments obviously that we'll be talking about the
Speaker 11: are iconic fifty years from now. That we show in
Speaker 11: the og Annobi tip in as the open to the NBA,
Speaker 11: there's no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Isaiah Thomas had this uh you know, smallest guy
Speaker 2: usually on the floor, but he had that confidence and
Speaker 2: wanted the ball game on the line. And I mean
Speaker 2: there's something about that. You know, it's your DNA. They're
Speaker 2: just certain guys who were made for those moments. I
Speaker 2: still don't know why san Antonio didn't double Jalen Brunt
Speaker 2: like I never ever want him to beat me. I know,
Speaker 2: he's the only guy on the floor who can beat me.
Speaker 2: He's the only guy.
Speaker 11: Talked about it repeatedly, you know, and it's you never
Speaker 11: give him the same look all the time, and so
Speaker 11: they you know, you got to mix it up.
Speaker 9: Sometimes you blitz them, sometimes you don't.
Speaker 11: Here's what I what I felt like I saw out
Speaker 11: of San Antonio when they got leads, and they had
Speaker 11: double digit leads in every game. When they got double
Speaker 11: digit leads, they got so conservative at their approach to
Speaker 11: him because they did not want to give up three
Speaker 11: point shots.
Speaker 9: I just I just didn't understand.
Speaker 11: The guy had almost half of their points in a
Speaker 11: closeout game. You had to go og ananob he wasn't
Speaker 11: in rhythm. Michale Bridges wasn't really in a rhythm. Karl
Speaker 11: Anthony Towns had two points in the game. They weren't
Speaker 11: getting anything off their bench. You have to force that
Speaker 11: ball out of his hands and see who else can
Speaker 11: go make a play, and then you can always adjust back.
Speaker 11: But to repeatedly have that much faith in your individual
Speaker 11: defenders that they can handle him one on one, because
Speaker 11: you got Wemby back there.
Speaker 9: He's not trying to get all the way to the rim.
Speaker 11: Typically he's trying to operate in that mid range area,
Speaker 11: and that means one guy's not gonna be able to
Speaker 11: handle that unless you take it out of his hands.
Speaker 11: So I agree with you, and I said it repeatedly
Speaker 11: throughout the broadcast. That's how I'm the same, Like I
Speaker 11: wouldn't want to go into the summer playing against that team,
Speaker 11: knowing I didn't force that to happen, and maybe a
Speaker 11: team gets in that situation next time.
Speaker 9: Around, you're gonna see something different.
Speaker 11: You can't give it to him the entire time, because
Speaker 11: then it's too easy to grow up a game plan
Speaker 11: to pick it apart. But they didn't to me take
Speaker 11: the ball out of his hands enough in Game five.
Speaker 2: Since I won't be talking to you for a while,
Speaker 2: If you could put Jannis in Boston or Miami, which
Speaker 2: appear to be the two front runners, which situation makes
Speaker 2: the most sense.
Speaker 11: Man, Miami to me would be you know, that would
Speaker 11: be most more interesting because I think that would elevate
Speaker 11: them immediately to a team that can contend. Boston to me,
Speaker 11: is already going to contend even if they don't do anything.
Speaker 9: They're already kind of in that category.
Speaker 11: So for me to add another team to the mix,
Speaker 11: that makes it more fascinating to me where Yannis ends up,
Speaker 11: because that's always a good thing. Just more teams that
Speaker 11: you look at as relevant that potentially could make a
Speaker 11: deep run and maybe even get to the finals. Giannis,
Speaker 11: is that kind of tipping point player. Boston's already gonna
Speaker 11: be in that category even if they don't make a move.
Speaker 2: I know you like Dylan Harper a lot. If I
Speaker 2: said you could have Dylan Harper or Cooper Flag, Oh.
Speaker 9: Man, why would you make me make a decision like that?
Speaker 9: I want both? I want both?
Speaker 3: Is it that close? Is it that close?
Speaker 9: Do you like do you like RIBI? I like both.
Speaker 9: That's how I would answer that question.
Speaker 3: Give me the surf and turf.
Speaker 2: So you're saying now three months ago, if I asked
Speaker 2: you're taking Cooper Flag.
Speaker 9: I would say, listen to me.
Speaker 11: I would probably lean Cooper Flag right now because Cooper
Speaker 11: Flag to me, this year demonstrated more overall versatility in
Speaker 11: his game.
Speaker 9: I had more on his plate. Honestly, Dylan Harper is
Speaker 9: playing on a great team.
Speaker 11: So he had a more defined role certainly throughout most
Speaker 11: of the regular season. Now that expanded into postseason. I
Speaker 11: think both of these guys are going to be All
Speaker 11: League players. I think both of these guys are going
Speaker 11: to be the type of guys that could be the
Speaker 11: best player on teams that can contend down the road.
Speaker 9: But right now as we sit.
Speaker 11: Here, Cooper Flagg has demonstrated he's just got a little
Speaker 11: bit more well rounded versatility, and obviously he's bigger, so
Speaker 11: that always is going to help. But I have no
Speaker 11: hesitation in saying that I think Dylan Harper not always
Speaker 11: going to be an All League player, like a first
Speaker 11: team All League guard down the road.
Speaker 9: And I don't know how long he stays at Wemby
Speaker 9: in San.
Speaker 11: Antonio, but at some point, these guys typically kind of
Speaker 11: want to be.
Speaker 9: The best player on their own team.
Speaker 11: If that gets to the place down the road, I
Speaker 11: think Dylan Harper is going to be that good that
Speaker 11: he could be a top flight guard that can lead
Speaker 11: a team deep into the postseason.
Speaker 3: Great stuff this year. Thank you for being available.
Speaker 9: To me always, Dan, anything you need.
Speaker 2: Jim Legler, ESPN, Lead NBA analyst. Yeah, I didn't. I
Speaker 2: didn't think it was that close, but that gap closed.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's recency bias with Harper played really well and
Speaker 2: at times I thought he was the best player on
Speaker 2: the floor for his team. But this is a big,
Speaker 2: big difference in what was asked a Cooper Flag and
Speaker 2: what's asked of Dylan Harper. Cooper Flag was nineteen. They
Speaker 2: turned the team over to him. He was eighteen when
Speaker 2: the season started. It's Cooper Flag. But Dylan Harper, Dylan
Speaker 2: Harper opened a lot of eyes because he was going
Speaker 2: to be known as Wait, who is the second pick
Speaker 2: in that draft behind Cooper Flag? And he's older than
Speaker 2: Cooper Flag. He's twenty. We'll take a break, get some
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Speaker 2: reach out again, I asked Fritzey to reach out to
Speaker 2: Brendan Soorsby's agent. We have reached out to him before
Speaker 2: and he said that his client is not going to
Speaker 2: be doing any interviews.
Speaker 3: And to after his pro day.
Speaker 2: So I said to Fritzy, go back and ask his
Speaker 2: agent when is his pro day, because that's news. His
Speaker 2: agent says, we will let you know by the end
Speaker 2: of day tomorrow. Okay, you know, all this happening fast,
Speaker 2: and you're going to go into the supple mental draft,
Speaker 2: have a pro day? Where do you have your pro day?
Speaker 2: How many teams do you think will be there to
Speaker 2: watch in person? And does everybody get a chance to ask,
Speaker 2: you know, break off, you know, one on one to
Speaker 2: ask Brendan Soresby questions. So there's a lot of things moving.
Speaker 2: It's fluid still. David in Ohio, Hi David, thanks for
Speaker 2: holding What do you have for me?
Speaker 3: Hey? What's up?
Speaker 2: Van?
Speaker 9: Congrats on getting another radio station in Hawaii. Aloha.
Speaker 5: Me and my wife went there to Kawhai on our
Speaker 5: honeymoon and I don't.
Speaker 6: Know if you've ever been, so thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've been to Hawaii a few times, the Big Island,
Speaker 2: Kona Maui always a great time.
Speaker 3: My daughter worked out there for.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many years, and it was one
Speaker 2: of those where she's working some farming development community something
Speaker 2: and I remember going out there and she said, oh,
Speaker 2: I want you to I want to show you where
Speaker 2: I was working. And so I got to see that.
Speaker 2: She goes, I want to show you where I was living,
Speaker 2: and I go, Okay.
Speaker 3: We pull into I still don't know what it was,
Speaker 3: but it had.
Speaker 2: A damaged school bus or some kind of bus and
Speaker 2: then there was some kind of concrete building hut, no
Speaker 2: running water, no electricity, and she had been living there
Speaker 2: with her boyfriend.
Speaker 6: And I went what.
Speaker 2: And it was it was one of those where you go,
Speaker 2: I can't no. She goes, no, I'm fine, and I go, okay,
Speaker 2: all right. It's one of those where you go, no, no,
Speaker 2: that's my daughter. She's you're not living like this, and
Speaker 2: she said, don't know, you know, we can you know,
Speaker 2: run a cable. You know, we're getting computer acts. And
Speaker 2: I go, oh my god, yeah smart?
Speaker 3: Were you thinking of yourself?
Speaker 9: I know, I didn't worked this hard.
Speaker 2: He I full disclosure. I started crying because I'm like, no, no,
Speaker 2: that and she is tough survivor like her mom, and
Speaker 2: I just.
Speaker 3: Went no, no, no no, uh but she uh she survived, yeah, Pauline.
Speaker 7: Were there other people there, like sent up a commune?
Speaker 3: No no, no, no.
Speaker 7: It wasn't squatting. There was a lease involved.
Speaker 3: No, no, there was nothing there.
Speaker 2: Just it was just a small building made out of
Speaker 2: concrete and there were like abandoned cars and I give
Speaker 2: us a dump.
Speaker 7: But in the lovely view were unbelievable.
Speaker 3: It was it was still Hawaii.
Speaker 7: Seventy eight seven degrees every day.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, and my wife. You know, she didn't
Speaker 2: react the way I did. She's like, you're making you're
Speaker 2: making Grace feel bad. I go, I'm feeling bad, like
Speaker 2: I just I was shocked. But you know we she
Speaker 2: took us all around Hawaii, all the places. You know,
Speaker 2: you knew, all these great places, the nice places.
Speaker 7: Why don't you just pull up a stump and sit there?
Speaker 3: And I.
Speaker 2: We got an airbnb when we were out there. And oh,
Speaker 2: oh fatherhood.
Speaker 4: All those sports centers you did, yes, all those road
Speaker 4: trips at the final.
Speaker 2: Second shift, I'm busting my ass. Go well, Dylan said, hey,
Speaker 2: how about the World Cup Food Game? I go, I'm
Speaker 2: not familiar with the World Cup Food game? Do we
Speaker 2: have music for the World Cup Food Game? Okay, all right, Dylan,
Speaker 2: go ahead, all right, Dan. So we have six nations
Speaker 2: that are playing today.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm going to pick each one's national dish or
Speaker 5: if they don't have that, what is considered one of,
Speaker 5: if not the most popular dishes, and you're gonna see
Speaker 5: if you can guess which country it belongs to.
Speaker 3: Country?
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, First off, seeboo Jen, it's spelt like
Speaker 5: the Bouden. It's a fish and broken rice. Feels like
Speaker 5: Senegal to me. Ding ding ding, Yeah, yeah, all.
Speaker 6: Right, I'll give you a harder one.
Speaker 3: That was pretty tough.
Speaker 5: Foxy Coal, which is a mutton and cabbage. It's spelt
Speaker 5: like fari call.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Norway.
Speaker 6: Damn, you're good.
Speaker 12: Two two, all right, couscous, I'm gonna go France, Paulie.
Speaker 7: I just got Algerian takeout the other day. Algae.
Speaker 5: It is Algeria. The food's so nice. They named it
Speaker 5: twice Dan okay, and mas goof, which is grilled carp
Speaker 5: Oh god, a rock.
Speaker 6: That is correct. And then we only got two left.
Speaker 7: This is gonna be kind of easy.
Speaker 6: Beef Bergen Yon.
Speaker 7: Bally gotta be Franz right.
Speaker 6: It is France, which.
Speaker 5: Only leaves Argentina, which was a tough one to find.
Speaker 5: I was really only finding Asada, which is more of
Speaker 5: like an open flame cooking style of various meats, but
Speaker 5: that is sort of their encompassing national dish.
Speaker 9: There you go.
Speaker 5: You guys did pretty I honestly thought there's gonna be
Speaker 5: some trickier one there.
Speaker 6: We'll get there. We'll do this again.
Speaker 2: Oh I can't wait, that sounds great, Thank you, thank you,
Speaker 2: all right, Final Hour on the way, we'll talk to
Speaker 2: the Knicks. Michale Bridges, he was known as the Warden.
Speaker 2: That was his nickname, but I think it might have
Speaker 2: been from high school. And then when he played for
Speaker 2: the Nets, he was known as Brooklyn Bridges.
Speaker 3: McHale Bridges, David, I did with that.
Speaker 5: No relation to Kevin McHale. Right then, No, you hated that.
Speaker 5: I did, Like, what are you doing?
Speaker 9: All right?
Speaker 2: Final hour on this Tuesday, on the way, more of
Speaker 2: your phone calls. We'll get to those eight seven seven
Speaker 2: three DP show. Dylan is here, Marvion's here, Paula yours
Speaker 2: truly the back room guys, and Fritzie's here in spirit