1 00:00:54,320 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: Would do about DA doing, Mr garbutsch Off, tear down 2 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: this wall. Either you're with us or you were with 3 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: the terrorists. If you've got healthcare already, then you can 4 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: keep your plan. If you're satisfied WITHO is not the 5 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: President of the United States, take it to a bank. Together, 6 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: we will make America great again. It's what you've been 7 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: waiting for all day. Buck Sexton with America. Now join 8 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: the conversation called Buck toll free at eight four four 9 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: nine hundred Buck. That's eight four four nine hundred to 10 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: eight to five, sharp mind, strong voice, Buck Sexton, Buck 11 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: Sex in here with you, team Buck. Welcome to the 12 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: Freedom Hat. Thank you so much for joining eight for 13 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: four nine hundred to eight to five eight four four 14 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: nine hundred Buck. On those phone line, you are seeing well. 15 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: Before I get into what you're seeing, lots of discussed 16 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: on the program, I'll give you my analysis of what 17 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: happened in Boston over the weekend. This this so called 18 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: free speech rally and counter rally or counter protesters, tens 19 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: of thousands of them in Boston. Also an anti white 20 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: supremacy rally white supremacy rally in Dallas that was very 21 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: interesting in part you'll have to wait. I'll get to 22 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: why um, and then a lot on Afghanistan in the 23 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: third hour of the program today, because you have the 24 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: President United States making a an address to the nation 25 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: on what our policy in Afghanistan as a country will be. 26 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: We have been at war there for over a decade. 27 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: We invaded in two thousand well at the end of 28 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: two thousand one and two thousand and two, and it 29 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: is it is time for us to do things either 30 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: differently or to decide that we are not going to 31 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: do this anymore. Uh. That's a very uh, straightforward and 32 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: simple way of saying or dealing with what is an 33 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: incredibly complicated problem. I'll be sharing with you a lot 34 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: of background that analysis on Afghanistan in advance of the 35 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: President's speech tonight on that issue, which the country is 36 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: very much anticipating. I also think you will hear the 37 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: President addressing perhaps some other issues North Korea was slated 38 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: to come up. I think it may he also may 39 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: speak about how it's time to come together as a 40 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: nation and cool down the rhetoric, and it's time for 41 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: tempers to be set aside and returned to debates based 42 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: in in discourse and policy ideas and not accusations of 43 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: hate and not accusations of racism, overshadowing everything else that 44 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: is being discussed right now in the country, because that 45 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: is where we are, and that's where I wanted to 46 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: go right now. You you're noticing that we have some 47 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: events coming together that are creating a narrative here all 48 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the Trump administration is being abandoned by 49 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: corporate allies. The Trump administration has major news networks on TV, 50 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: has pundits on TV who are saying that Trump is 51 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: either favorable to white nationalism or is himself in some 52 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: way a white nationalist. They're calling the President United States 53 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: a racist. And you had news publications last week, the 54 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: economist Der Spiegel, Um, I think Newsweek as well, putting 55 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: President Trump on the cover of the magazine with a 56 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: KKK hood in different all in different variations of it. 57 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: And they're calling the President United States a clan a klansman, 58 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: some outright others are just insinuating that that's the case. There. 59 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: They're saying that this is uh, this is the way 60 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: the country is now going. Others are pushing the story 61 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: kind that the president is unfit for office mentally, that 62 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: he's in fact crazy. Here's one of the least informed 63 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: talking heads over at CNN, Brian Stelter, on just that 64 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: President Trump's actions and inactions in the wake of Charlotte'sville 65 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: are provoking some uncomfortable conversations, mostly off the air. For 66 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: being honest, people are questioning the president's fitness. But these 67 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: conversations are happening in newsrooms and TV studios as well, 68 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: usually after the microphones are off or after the stories 69 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: are filed, after the paper has been put to bed, 70 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: people's concerns and fears and questions come out, questions that 71 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: often feel out of bounds, off limits, too hot for TV. 72 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: Questions like these, Is the President of the United States 73 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: a racist? Is he's suffering from some kind of illness? Alright? 74 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: Enough is enough? He's just getting He's one of the s. 75 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: He's a CNN media reporter, which means he's a guy 76 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: in the media with no credentials other than being in 77 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: the media, and he is reporting, quote unquote on a 78 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: whisper campaign among journalists who all hate the president, who 79 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: are willing to believe the President colluded with Russia, sold 80 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: out his country, committed treason, is hiding criminal activity his 81 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: tax returns, you know, has violated any number of criminal statutes. 82 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: He's completely ruthless, would do anything, has no moral compass, 83 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,239 Speaker 1: and his evil And this is a widely held belief 84 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: among journalists. And they think that they think the president 85 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: is the problem. They believe all that stuff. They think 86 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: that that Trump is a racist. Some of them are 87 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: now coming out and saying it, which anyone who knows 88 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: this man knows he's not a racist. Is he imprecise 89 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: with his language? Does he say stuff that I wish 90 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: he wouldn't sometimes? Sure, but he's not a racist. He's 91 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: certainly not. Remember the KKK. But we almost concede too 92 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: much by playing defense here. We're doing what they want 93 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: us to do. We're doing what they expect us to do, 94 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: and that is to be forced to talk about whether 95 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: or not the president's racist. There's no winning this conversation. 96 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: You're automatically on the defensive. But look at what's happening. 97 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: You had Charlottesville and the media's response to Trump. And 98 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: I should note that the only thing that Trump said 99 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: that I that I really have a very tough time 100 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: explaining to people are trying to work through, is his 101 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: all good people on both sides. I think he was 102 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: trying to say something other than what he said, but 103 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: that was a problem. But the there was violence on 104 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: both sides was just a statement of fact, and the 105 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: media freaked out about that there was violence on both sides. 106 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: So he said one thing that was imprecise, not good 107 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: And this is a national crisis. Now they're telling us 108 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: that major journalists have to have conversations and newsrooms across 109 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: the country about how as if we really care what 110 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: they're saying. We know what that we know what they 111 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: think because they've been covering this Russia story. It's it 112 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: is a national embarrassment how much time has been wasted 113 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: on this Russia collusion crap. It's a national embarrassment. It 114 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: really is. People say, the rest of the world laughs 115 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: at us because of Trump. The rest of the world 116 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: should be Latin. The people say that, by the way, 117 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: are the same that go for the Russian narrative. The 118 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: rest of the world should be laughing at how we 119 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: have this incredibly sophisticated, multibillion dollar news media that are 120 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: either completely naive and capable of being swindled by each other, 121 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: or are just wildly dishonest and will pursue an agenda 122 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: at all costs of progressive statism, no matter what it 123 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: does to the country, no matter what it does to 124 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: uh morality, our economy, our history, the founding. And you're 125 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: seeing these pieces come together. Now they're saying Trump is 126 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: a racist, They're saying his supporters are racist. You've got 127 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: Howard Dean out there saying the following club. This has 128 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: now become a referenum. If you want to vote for 129 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: a racist in the White House, then you better vote 130 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: for Republicans. So I think this may be the moment 131 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: that turns America away from the Republican Party, which frankly, 132 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: long before Donald Trump was dog whistling, dog whistling race, 133 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: gay rights, immigrants, and Muslims. President Trump came into office 134 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: more pro gay, more pro l G B t Q 135 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: than President Obama did. Fact. But me DA just will 136 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: pretend that that's not the case. President Trump came into 137 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: all it's been and whether you agree with President Trump's 138 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: position on that or not is irrelevant. Just goes to 139 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: show you the media is dishonest on this stuff. But 140 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: what you just heard there from what is it d 141 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: n The d n C s Howard Dean, former d 142 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: n C chairman as he still don't know. Yeah, former 143 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: d n C chairman Howard Dean, former presidential candidate for 144 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, that guy, Howard Dean. Remember that what 145 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: you are seeing and hearing is really the the center, really, 146 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: the the dark core. The this soft under well, soft 147 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: underbelly would be a vulnerability, but the this the center 148 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: of the sewer. That is hashtag resistance, and it's just 149 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: all about convince enough Americans. You're not going to convince 150 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: some of them because a lot of us are sick 151 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: of all the talk about everything is racist, this is racist. 152 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: That as racist doesn't matter, but frightened people and push people, 153 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: bully people into well, I don't want people to think 154 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm racist, so clearly I can't vote for Trump. Hashtag 155 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: resistance is just this. It's identity politics on steroids. It's 156 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: accusations of racism that are supposed to taint not just 157 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: the president but anybody who would ever support Donald Trump 158 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: and even the Republican Party. This is the resistance now, 159 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: and it is coordinated. Uh, we really think that it's 160 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: it's a shock, it comes out of nowhere that you 161 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: have people, uh pushing this story in the media about 162 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: how Trump is racist, and then you also have all this. 163 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: They have to tear down the monuments. They have already 164 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: moved on beyond just Confederate monuments. I should note there 165 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: they want to they want to get rid of Christopher 166 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: Columbus now because he's a racist in genocide, and you know, 167 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: they want to get rid of any number of these, uh, 168 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: these different statutes. Are you had? You had J Johnson 169 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: from the Obama administration. Former DHS secretary said that the 170 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: removal of these statues is a matter of public safety. 171 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: What alarms so many of us from a security perspective 172 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: is that so many of the statues, the Confederate monuments 173 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: are now modern day becoming symbols and rallying points for 174 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: white nationalism, for neo Nazis, for the KKK. I salute 175 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: those in cities and states who are taking down a 176 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 1: lot of these monuments for reasons of public safety and security. 177 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: That's not a matter of political correctness. That's a matter 178 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: of public safety and homeland security. Until this Charlottesville fiasco, 179 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: I hadn't even I hadn't even heard of an all 180 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: th right rally involving anybody from the Confederacy at all. 181 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: I hadn't even heard of what happening. This idea that 182 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: the statue us are somehow a a centerpiece of alts right. 183 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: I don't know what it comes from. Well, it comes 184 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: from a manufactured narrative in the media. The the alt right. 185 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: You saw them on displayer in Charlotteesville. The alts right 186 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: is a group of as Steve I gotta say, banning 187 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: out it right, there's just a bunch of losers. They're 188 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: just a bunch of losers. They have no power, they 189 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: have no authority, Nobody respects them, nobody likes them. There 190 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: are a lot of them are you know, losing their 191 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: jobs now and they're being completely shunned. But there is 192 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: something working here, There's something behind the scenes. There is 193 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: a coordinated campaign. This is this is hashtag resistance. Got 194 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: to bring down the Confederate statutes. Gotta run endless stories 195 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: about how Trump is a racist. Lots of talk about 196 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: about the alts right and how violence on the right 197 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: is becoming normalized, and we have to stand up against fascism. 198 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: Who doesn't want to stand up against fascism, Well, of 199 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: course fascisms back. I'll stand up against fascism. He had 200 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: by fascism, they mean Republicans. That's really what this is. 201 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: They are rebranding the Republican Party. The left in this 202 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: country is rebranding the Republican Party as fascists, and that's 203 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: going to have really severe consequences. That's why you're seeing 204 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: people say stuff that under any other circumstances would just 205 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: be completely utterly career suicide, right, But they think they 206 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: can get away with it because the moment, well, we're 207 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: standing up against fascism. And in fact, some of them 208 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: even do go too far because they break the law. 209 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: They even threaten the president. Here is Missouri State Senator 210 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: Maria Chappelle Nadal on her comments about how Trump should 211 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: be assassinated. President Trump, I apologize to you and your family. 212 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: I made a mistake and I'm owning up to it, 213 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: and I am not ever going to make a mistake 214 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: like that again. And I have learned my lesson. My 215 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: judge and my jury is my Lord Jesus Christ. No, 216 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: not actually the jury. The jury maybe a jury of 217 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: your peers, because you're not allowed to wish for the 218 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: death of the president of the city, president of the 219 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: United States, and just also on a moral level, should 220 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: be wishing for the death of any of your fellow Americans, 221 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: never mind the president. This is just terrible. But this 222 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: is the atmosphere now. Trump is so hated in the left. 223 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: They've created such a boogeyman, such a monster that rhetoric 224 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: spirals out of control. You see, they're they're feeding into this. Oh, 225 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: we need we need to pull down the Confederate statues. Oh. 226 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: By the way, Texas man has been arrested in charge 227 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: this courtesy of NBC after allegedly trying to plan a 228 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: bomb on a Confederate statue out of Houston Park Is 229 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: earlier today. Uh Andrew Schneck was charged with attempting to 230 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: militia just the damage or destroyed property, receiving federal financial assistance. 231 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: According to federal prosecutors, this guy is trying to tape 232 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: a bomb to a Confederate statue. What the heck is 233 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: wrong with people? Well, I can tell you they have 234 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: been brainwashed with hate, not right wing hate, not racist hate. No, 235 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: they've been brainwashed with the other side is a bunch 236 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: of hateful racists. They're fascists, and whatever we have to 237 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: do to oppose them, whatever we have to say, whatever 238 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: dirty tricks we have to pull whatever violence they have 239 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: to engage. And that's where this is heading is justifiable 240 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: because hashtag resistance. Every state gets two statues to put 241 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: in statutory hall or throughout the capital, and just using 242 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: Virginia as an example, Virginia obviously chose George Washington, the 243 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: father of the country. But the second choice that was 244 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: made in nineteen o nine and has never been changed 245 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: as Robert E. Lee. I think as you look at 246 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: the scope of Virginia history here in and if you 247 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: want there to be two people to really stand for 248 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: who Virginia is, why wouldn't you think about Pocahonas, who 249 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: had she not saved John Smith's life, we wouldn't even 250 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: be here. Possibly Pokahonas, that's Virginia Senator Tim Caine, remember 251 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's vice presidential candidate that I'm sure and if 252 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: you don't live in Virginia, Lotty were like, who uh 253 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: the guy? The guy really had had all the charm 254 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: of a Siberian prison guard circle nineteen fifty. But here 255 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: we are with the U. S. Senator saying that we 256 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: should really have we should replace Roberty Lee with with 257 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: Pocahonas be because why, oh, you know, sounds politically correct, 258 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: so let's just go with it. Uh. This is, by 259 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: the way, the Jefferson Memorial is now adding references to slavery. 260 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: I mean, this is not gonna Columbus. The Christopher Columbus 261 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: Monument has been defaced an attacked. You've got uh, explosives 262 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: tied to a Confederate statue um of Richard Dowling in 263 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: a park in Houston. This this is becoming now the 264 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: new normal. They are they are normalizing the erasing and 265 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,239 Speaker 1: rewriting of history. And that that's not an overstatement now right, 266 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: We we are at that place where that's what is happening. 267 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: Some of us have been warning that this is what 268 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: will because as I said to you originally, well, what 269 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: are the outer boundaries of this? If it's a person 270 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: was bad a couple of hundred years ago, based on 271 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: how we expect people to be today, where does that stop? 272 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: You know? Who are who are allowed to be our heroes? 273 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: Who's acceptable? You know? I mean there were not a 274 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: not a lot of the Founding Fathers were big on 275 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: transgender rights. So I mean, there's there's gonna be some 276 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: problems here. I know, you say, right now, but come on, 277 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: they won't that's not going to be a standard. You think, no, do, 278 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: just give it some time. Just give it some time. 279 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: The focus on the statues, it is not coming from 280 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: the altar right. The focus on the statutes is actually 281 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: coming from the hard left. They are using this as 282 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: a means of getting the conversation about racism in the headlines. 283 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: They are using this to create the kind of political 284 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: theater that gets attention. And it all traces back to 285 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: Trump and this White House. That's the purpose here. This 286 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: is the keep saying, the hashtag resistance, this is the 287 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: anti Trump forces have mobilized. They couldn't get him with Russia, 288 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: at least not yet. They tried. Man, they thought that 289 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: they were gonna just create so much pressure that maybe 290 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: Trump would step down or it was all in on Russia. 291 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: And then people started to get tired of it. And 292 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: then there was that meeting in Trump Tower. And I 293 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: think the media was holding out that that meeting because 294 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: they knew about it for months and months and months. 295 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: They thought that was really gonna do it, that Trump 296 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: supporters would leave him and that would be the end 297 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: of it. Nope, that didn do it. So now where 298 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: are we. Well, it's really just a repeat of what 299 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: we're hearing during the campaign. Trump is a racist, Trump 300 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: is a fascist, Trump is a is a sexist, He's 301 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: a xenophoe. I mean, do we ever get to have 302 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: a discussion about Obamacare and the economy and you know 303 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: the things that Americans carabound their day today. No, we 304 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: just get to sit and bicker on the left terms 305 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: about racism. That's what this is all about, and it 306 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: is coordinated. He's back with you now because when it 307 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: comes to the fight for truth, the buck never stops. 308 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: You are now entering the Freedom Technical Operations Center. All 309 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: sensitive programs must be kept strictly. Need to know Team 310 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: Buck is cleared front of that and ready for the 311 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: buck brief. Well, the final terrorists from the Barcelona attacks 312 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: has been taken can out. That's the update from today 313 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: on a series of terrorist strikes in Spain that killed 314 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: over a dozen people, wounded scores more. And now we 315 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: can finally connect the pieces here entirely and also get 316 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: a sense of the background and the possible radicalization path 317 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: of these individuals. You had almost a dozen people involved 318 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: in these attacks in Spain. We were talking about last 319 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: week on this show. Uh, the possibility of v b 320 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: I E. D. S. And now we know that that 321 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: is in fact what authorities suspect the plan was all along. 322 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: But before I get into that, let me just update 323 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: you on who was taken out today. Police shot and 324 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 1: killed twenty two year old Moroccan Unice Abu Yakub. He 325 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: had been the last suspected terrorist that had evaded authorities. 326 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 1: It is believed that he was the van driver in 327 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: Barcelona who killed thirteen people. So this, this twelve person 328 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: terror cell UH is one of the largest we have 329 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: seen operating in Europe in months, and this is the 330 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: biggest terror attack that has hit Spain since the two 331 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: thousand and four Madrid train bombings. Now here are some 332 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: of the key facts, just to go over everything so 333 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: we know exactly what the context is as we get 334 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: into the radicalization and counter counter radicalization and counter terrorism 335 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: pathways and possible solutions here. Okay, you have the Al 336 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: Konar house bombing, and that was an own goal in 337 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: bomb terminology, meaning that there was an individual. It is 338 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: believed in fact a radical imam may have been present 339 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: for that house bombing and it was an accident. They 340 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: were trying to put together t A T P triacetone 341 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: try UH peroxide with a series of canisters. They were 342 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: squatting this terror cell of young people. By the way, 343 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: they were in their early twenties for the most part, 344 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: one years old. They were squatting in a house in 345 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: al Kanar, and over a series of many months they 346 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: were building UH the capacity to create massive v b 347 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: I d S vehicle born improvised explosive devices. What happened 348 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: is that they didn't have the expertise to handle the 349 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: t A t P. T A t P is an 350 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: explosive that was used in the Manchester suicide bombing of 351 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: the Ariana Grande concert. T A t P was used 352 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: in the suicide bomber attack in Paris, France that involved 353 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: the Stad Defran and the horrific massacre at the Botta 354 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: Klon Theater at the hands of g hottists, and also 355 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: the major terror cell in Brussels, which is what finally 356 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: got the international community to take a look at the 357 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: Muhlenbeck neighborhood in Brussels which had become a hotbed of radicalization. 358 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: So TA t P in Brussels, in Paris, in Manchester 359 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: and now found in the ruins of the al Kanar house, 360 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: this terrorist UH safe house, which is where they are 361 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 1: preparing these explosives, went up. It completely disintegrated annihilated this 362 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: house because of the T A t P, which is 363 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: difficult to handle, It's very unstable. It's much more powerful 364 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: though than ammonium nitrate, which is a more stable bomb 365 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: that has been used in other major terror strikes. This 366 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: time they were trying to use T A t P 367 00:24:54,680 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: and also gas canisters to to u grow the explosive effect. 368 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: So the house went up in Alkanar, but these guys 369 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: were not there. So they then decided that the vehicles 370 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: that they had rented and they initially tried to rent 371 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: one massive truck. They were going to build an enormous 372 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: truck bomb and one can assume park it somewhere in Barcelona. UH. 373 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: They were building that they wanted to get an enormous truck, 374 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,239 Speaker 1: they got two smaller vans instead because they didn't have 375 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: the permit to drive the truck. They had these vans. 376 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: Once the al Kanar house exploded, they went to Barcelona 377 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: and they ran down people in on Las Rambles. At 378 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: least a number of the individuals involved here went to 379 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: Barcelona and then they escaped Abu Yakuba, who was shot 380 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: down today obviously escaped, and uh they tried a similar 381 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: vehicle attack in Camberral's. They strapped themselves with fake suicide vests. 382 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: I should note that if they had mastered T A 383 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: t P the explosive, I believe they would have all 384 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: had real suicide vests on. And the only reason I 385 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: went with the fake suicide vests because they lacked the 386 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: technical know how here to pull off an attack involving explosives. 387 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: But the Camberra's attack killed one and then a police 388 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: officer Spanish police officer by the way, I mean this 389 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: guy whatever the police in Spain equivalent of, like the 390 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: police officer, you know, medal of merit or whatever it is. 391 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: This guy obviously needs to needs to be awarded this 392 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: because he took out these five terrorists single handedly. And 393 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: then today, uh, there were reports of an individual driving 394 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: a vehicle across a vineyard. There was a helicopters chasing him, 395 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: and sure enough it was Abuyahub and police shot him dead. 396 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: In the Camberra's attack, one woman was killed a few 397 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: other injured, but it was nowhere near as bad a 398 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: casualty count as what we saw in Barcelona. So you 399 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: have a house explosion and you have a dozen person 400 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,239 Speaker 1: terrorists sell all young Moroccan born living in Spain. You 401 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 1: have a house explosion in al Kanar where they were 402 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: preparing the explosive that was the night before, and then 403 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: they made then they made their move to go to Barcelona. 404 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: You know, the vehicle attacks in Barcelona, and then follow 405 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: on vehicle attack in Camberl's and then today you had 406 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: a shootout or at least a shoot down of Abu 407 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: Unice Abu Yakub, who was the driver in the Barcelona 408 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: vehicle attack. So this seems to have come to an end. 409 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: This cell is broken up now and all the individuals 410 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: are either in custody, A number of them are in 411 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: custody or have been killed by police. But this is 412 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: clearly rocked Spain that you could have a cell of 413 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: this size. As of yet, uh no direct connections established 414 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: to the Islamic State, but the Islamic State through its 415 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: Amakh news agency, has claimed credit for this attack. Now 416 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: that could just be that it was an inspired Isis 417 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: attack and that these individual Jewels found a way to 418 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: connect with someone online who was involved with the Islamic State. 419 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: Who was a member of the Islamic State, and that 420 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: they pledged uh by a that they pledged their fealty 421 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: to the Islamic State before the attack, which would in 422 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: Jihatta circles technically speaking make them Islamic State fighters or 423 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: acting on behalf of the Islamic State. Here we know 424 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: that there are reports of a preacher. It's thought actually 425 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: the preacher maybe the human remains in the house and 426 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: al kanar uh the preacher may have radicalized these individuals, 427 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: because none of the cell as of yet have been 428 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: reported to be particularly active in terms of radical associations 429 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: with jihadist terrorists on social media, so we haven't yet 430 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: seen some of the telltale signs we would expect in 431 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: this process. Although as we read more about associates of 432 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: these individuals that are reported in the press, some of 433 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: them withdrew became much more religious, you know, you see 434 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: in the New York Times and these other places, and 435 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: the New York Times, I should note ended a piece 436 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: just yesterday that I read with how sad the terrorists 437 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: families were, you know, how the emotional scars won't heal 438 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: for the terrorists families. How about the families of the 439 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: dead in Camberrill's and Barcelona, UH and the wounded. The 440 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: New York Times focus on the terrorist families. It just 441 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: goes to show you that they're they're always looking to 442 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: try and find an alternative angle here whenever you're talking 443 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: about geeh hottest terrorism. That deflects from the rage that 444 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: we should feel at incidents like this, the anger that 445 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: we are righteous in summoning when we are condemning this 446 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: kind of jee hottest terrorist atrocity. UH. A very important 447 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: point that well, I'm sure we'll get lost in all 448 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: of the coverage of this because there won't most of 449 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: the media won't want to focus on this, is that 450 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: these were UH individuals who had, based on the reporting 451 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: we've seen, all assimilated quite well. They smoked, they like 452 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: to party, they like to play sports, they watched TV, 453 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: they played video games, and so the usual narrative that 454 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: the leftist jihad apologists come up with. And this happened, 455 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: as I mentioned to you, when I was speaking on 456 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: a panel at CNN. Everyone else on that panel was 457 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: saying that the nice attack in south of France was 458 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: the result of poor assimilation. Okay, in this case, you 459 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: have all these young people living in Spain who are 460 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: uh enjoying life, have access to all the things that 461 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: one would need. You a civilized Western country like Spain, 462 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: a beautiful country. I've always wanted to visit. It's a 463 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: wonderful place. And they're enjoying their lives. They're young, they've 464 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: got girlfriends, they're watching you know, TV like everybody else. 465 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: They're they're they're a part of Spanish society, and everyone 466 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: thinks everything is normal. And then all of a sudden 467 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: they decided to become a bunch of savages who are 468 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: murdering people. I mean, they killed a seven year old 469 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: in Barcelona. They ran over a seven years They ran 470 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: over everybody they could, but one of the dead is 471 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: a little seven year old. What kind of savages? What 472 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: kind of barbarians run down a kid, crush a kid 473 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: under a vehicle? Because what because this is for a caliphate, 474 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: because of the violence in the Middle East. If it 475 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: wasn't for America, you know, there actually be a lot 476 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: more violence in the Middle East. Hate to hate to 477 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: be the one to break that to people, but they 478 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: would be attacking and killing each other in Syria and 479 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: in Iraq and elsewhere. Whether we had ever set foot 480 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: in the region or not. Just look at a little 481 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,959 Speaker 1: bit of the history and I'm right, and you know 482 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm right. But the left just makes all these excuses. 483 00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: It's pathetic. But back to the whole assimilation jihoti is 484 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: m discussion. Here, these young men who turned into monsters 485 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: in Spain were in a wonderful society, a wonderful country, 486 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: and they turned on their uh. They turned on their 487 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: Spanish brothers and sisters. They were born in Morocco, but 488 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: they had been living in Spain for a number of years. 489 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: How could anyone do this? Why would anyone do this? 490 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: The answer is not poverty or lack of opportunity, or 491 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: assimilation problems, or Islamophobia or any of the other stuff 492 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: that will be offered up by the whiny, dissembling, excuse 493 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: making left when it comes to Muslim based terrorism, which 494 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: is what jihoti is um is, it is from within 495 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: the Islamic faith. Whenever they want to make excuses, they 496 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: find some way, or at least they'll cover it up 497 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: and say we'll talk more about this later. But here 498 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: we have a very interesting case study. These young men 499 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: were integrated into Spanish society well. By all accounts, they 500 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: had plenty of opportunity. Spain's youth unemployment is almost You'll 501 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: notice there are no non Moroccan Muslims in this group 502 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: of twelve that are running people over and trying to 503 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: blow people up, men, women and children. That's because this 504 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: is ideological. That's because within the Islamic faith there is 505 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: a percentage. There is a minority, but it is large 506 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: enough to destabilize the world and to threaten if we 507 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: do not confront it, if we do not name it, 508 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: to threaten Western civilization itself. There is a minority within 509 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: the Islamic faith that is at war with us constantly 510 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: and always, and our only choice for dealing with them 511 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: is vigilance and eradication, vigilance against their terrorist attacks and 512 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: eradicating the terrorists as we can on foreign battlefield, or 513 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: taking them off the battlefield at home, prosecuting them to 514 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: the full extent of the law, in some cases death 515 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: penalty cases. But that's what we have to do. That 516 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: is all we can do, because otherwise we are already surrendering. 517 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: Otherwise the battle is already over. We just don't know 518 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: it yet. And here we see a story where the 519 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: only basis you could come up with for individuals to 520 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: do this is that they had been UH brainwashed by 521 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: an ideology that they had embraced of Islamic jihad and 522 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: jihadism and Islamism, and that UH version of Islamic theology 523 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: is present in many countries around the world. Many tens 524 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: of millions of people believe it, and it's going to 525 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: continue to be the great struggle of our time. And 526 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: it's not about assimilation and it's not about Islamophobia, and 527 00:34:54,680 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: Spain proves it. It's so frustrating to see so much 528 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 1: of the idiot commentary on this, people who have never 529 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: worked a counter terrorism case, know any of the history, 530 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: know any of this. It's very, very frustrating. Just a 531 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: quick update team on the other terror attact that happened 532 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: last week. It didn't get nearly as much attention as 533 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: it would have otherwise because of what had gone on 534 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: in Spain. Here's an update from the BBC. Moroccan suspect 535 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: named over Finland stabbings in turkup Uh suspect held in 536 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 1: Finland over a knife attack that killed two people has 537 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: been named as eighteen year old Moroccan asylum seeker Abda 538 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: Rahama mihash Uh or Meska sorry. Police shot him in 539 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 1: the leg and he is in hospital, but he's expected 540 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: to appear in court via a video link. The man 541 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: appeared to choose women as targets. According to police, it's 542 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: being treated as terrorism. Two Finnish women were stabbed to death. 543 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: Eight other people were injured. UH. The injured included a 544 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: British paramedic, a suite and an Italian. There were six 545 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,479 Speaker 1: women who were injured as well in this UH. This 546 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: is a horrific incident, and this is somebody who was 547 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: seeking this suspect another Moroccan involved in terrorism. I should 548 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: note now, look I've met many Moroccans and there are 549 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 1: loads of great people. It's a country at thirty five million. 550 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: But again, if we're looking at the ideology of Islam 551 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: broadly and where we have to worry about terrorism coming from, 552 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: it comes from mostly from within the Islamic community on 553 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: a global scale. This is just a fact. People like 554 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: to fight this and feel like they're being righteous for 555 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: some reason. But I'm not saying and no one who 556 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: knows anything says that every Muslim is a terrorist, or 557 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: that everybody who believes in Islam is involved with or 558 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: supportive of terrorism. But I am saying that there is 559 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: a disproportionate percentage that there is a large, relatively speaking 560 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: piece of the terrorism pie that involves Islamic extremists. And 561 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: I know you already know this, but it just has 562 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: to be repeated so that we can maintain some sanity 563 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: as we talk about these issues. But you had Moroccans 564 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: involved in terrorism in Spain last week, you have this 565 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: guy involved in terrorism in Finland. Let me just say 566 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: a couple of things about this. Uh. One is that 567 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: this was obviously terrorism from the start, and the Finnish 568 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: authorities were slow rolling it. And to notice how he 569 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: goes after women. Repression of women in Islamic societies is 570 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: one of the most corrosive and destructive aspects of traditional 571 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: fundamentalist Islam, and it breaks out onto the world stage 572 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 1: in these incidents and all of a sudden people say, 573 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: wait a second, there is some true misogyny, real hatred 574 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: of women that is a vast problem within Islam, not 575 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,919 Speaker 1: just for terrorists incidents or just jihad ists, but within 576 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: the Muslim world. It is the motherload of regression on 577 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: women's rights. You could say, again, people don't want to 578 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: talk about it, but it's just true, We'll go and 579 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: do a break here talking about free speech and just 580 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: a few he's holding the line for America buck sex 581 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: in his back number one. We didn't want what happened 582 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: in um, you know, in Virginia to happen here. We 583 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: didn't want them at each other's throat. You know. Also, 584 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: there was a lot of talk in the week leading 585 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: up about bottles being flown with urine at our offices, 586 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 1: and I wanted to make sure that they you know 587 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: that you had to have a good am to basically 588 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: it's fall and get at them. So, you know, we 589 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: basically wanted them separated. And I'm sorry to report we 590 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: didn't have some bottles cloned at our offices that did 591 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: have urin in it. Um. A couple of our officers 592 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: were hit with that. They were hit with a lot 593 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: of stuff today and I'm very proud of the job 594 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: they did. And it goes to the professionalism of this 595 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: to pop Ah. Yes, protesters throwing bottles of urine at 596 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: police officers up in Boston over the weekend. It's not 597 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: specified in the media, but of course we can all 598 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 1: just guess, and we would be right that those who 599 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 1: were throwing bodily fluids at police officers who were there 600 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: to protect everyone and do their duty in the city 601 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: of Boston. Uh that that was coming from the left. 602 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: Those were the counter protesters. Buck Saxton back with you 603 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: all now, Team. I saw the protests over the weekend. 604 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: In fact, I mean I watched them. I wasn't there 605 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: present for them. I was in Fox News for a 606 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: little bit looking at some of the live feeds some 607 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: of what had happened there. And you had tens of 608 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 1: thous thousands of counter protesters and a few dozen right 609 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,240 Speaker 1: wing protesters who are having a quote free speech rally. 610 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: I always find it fascinating that there's so little information, 611 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: it's a little reliable information on just what this quote 612 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: free speech rally really was or who these people were. 613 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: I didn't see any people walking around with swastikas. I 614 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: didn't see anything that looked like it had anything to 615 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: do with Nazism. Again, I don't know. I just saw 616 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: what I saw on the video feeds of the event, 617 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 1: but I certainly saw and so I just think it's 618 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: interesting that you don't get much background information on any 619 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: of that. You don't get the opportunity to say, Okay, 620 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: is this really a free speech rally or is this 621 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: a an effort to cause trouble for the you know, 622 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: the alt right, trying to get together and have a 623 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: big event that will draw attention and perhaps even a 624 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: situation where there's likely to be violence. I don't know. 625 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: I did, however, see Antifa protesters, or at least members 626 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: of what's called the Black Block. Now. I'm familiar with 627 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: these guys from years ago when they were a part 628 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: of the Occupy Wall Street protests movement and all of 629 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: the groups that you see that you've seen in recent years, 630 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: including Antifa, including Occupy Wall Street there and and the 631 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: Black Block within it. Uh. They the seeds of these 632 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: groups were planted years ago. Uh, this is not new. 633 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: The anarchists that were part of Occupy Wall Street were 634 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: just as crazy they were Antifa without Trump. That's all. 635 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: That's all that the differences here. Uh. They ran around 636 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: and destroyed things, they wore all black. Black Block is 637 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 1: a tactic, as I've told you in the past, and 638 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: it's specifically done so that it's difficult to identify perpetrators. 639 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: So it's a means of facilitating mob destructive behavior and 640 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: mob violence without being caught, and it also creates a 641 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: perception of a paramilitary protest organization. That's what the Black 642 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: Block is really trying to do, trying to seem like 643 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: they are true modern day revolutionaries and anarchists. I saw 644 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 1: some of them at the UH, at the protests on 645 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,359 Speaker 1: Boston Common over the weekend. And of course you have 646 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: all the fighting back and forth between the left and 647 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 1: right in this country, Democrats and Republicans as to whether 648 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: or which side has more crazies, essentially, and I think 649 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 1: it should be noted that Black Block shows up in 650 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: every city across the country. They've been a part of 651 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: protest movements for years, and they are not disavowed by 652 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: the left. That the left will have these these tall 653 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: box about their tactics and say whether they're helpful or not, 654 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: whether they cause more problems than their worth, But they 655 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,479 Speaker 1: don't completely disvow the Black Block. UH that you don't 656 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 1: see people. All you have to do is look at 657 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: these protests. You don't see people telling those who show 658 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 1: up to a speech protests wearing black head to toe 659 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: UH their own side, so to speak, the counter free 660 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: speech protesters, whatever that means. They're not saying, hey, what 661 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: are you idiots doing here? All dressed in black, wearing masks, 662 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 1: uh and in the case of Boston, they weren't allowed 663 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: to carry weapons very smart by the Boston police. Boston Police, 664 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: like the NYPD, has the resources and the training to 665 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: really handle large protest movements. Charlottesville doesn't. This is a 666 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: huge differentiator. By the way, didn't get nearly enough attention 667 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: in the initial discussions of just went wrong there. It 668 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 1: was clear that if the Charlottesville police had had more personnel, 669 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: more training, and most important, only the will to act early, 670 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: which is a combination. I think their hesitancy was a 671 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: combination of a political concern about seeming too aggressive with 672 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,959 Speaker 1: the counter right wing protesters, and also just not really 673 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,439 Speaker 1: knowing what they were doing. In Boston, the cops knew 674 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,479 Speaker 1: what they were doing, but you have this Antifa movement there, 675 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: or you you have these black block individuals who are 676 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: now associated with Antifa, and they're present for this and 677 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 1: they're not being told to disperse by their own side. 678 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: They're not so you know, in the same way that 679 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 1: people have pointed out, and I think understandably and correctly, 680 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 1: you don't get to march next to a guy holding 681 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: up a swastika, or you don't get to stand beside 682 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: a neo Nazi and you're saying I believe in I 683 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: don't know, you know, secure borders, and the neo Nazis saying, 684 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, I hate people of this race or you know, 685 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: blood and soil or some other really horrifying thing, that 686 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 1: that's a problem for you if if you're the non 687 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: blood and soil guy, you don't get to just stand 688 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: there and be okay with it. I think it's interesting 689 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: that the left always gives a pass to the Antifa 690 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: people there, and also there no there's no expectation that 691 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: the that the black block Antifa groups within who by 692 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: the way, we're throwing bottles of urine at police in Boston. 693 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 1: Let's just put that out there. It's not like they 694 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: sit there and they're just dressed like these little street 695 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 1: combatants and they don't do anything throwing bottles of urina cops. 696 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: Some of them were arrested. But there's no expectation that 697 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 1: the Antifa black block protesters are going to be booted 698 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: out by their own side or called out by their 699 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: own side. What starts to make it feel like in 700 00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 1: these leftist counter fascism proach tests or counter free speech 701 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: protests or whatever they are. I mean, there's a lot 702 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: of different stuff going on across the country. Are we 703 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 1: talking about on campus? Are we talking about what's just 704 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 1: happening now in some of these cities. But it seems 705 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 1: to me more like Antifa is the vanguard of the left. 706 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 1: There the shock troops. But there's a difference between fringe 707 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: extremists and shock troops, and I think that that's where 708 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: you see the left having some real problems here with 709 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,320 Speaker 1: their line of argument, which is, oh, we're not extreme, 710 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: the right is extreme. Oh well, you don't denounce the 711 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 1: extremists in your own midst. And to say that somebody 712 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: who will throw a bottle of urine, which was confirmed 713 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 1: by Boston Police, to say that somebody would throw a 714 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 1: bottle of urine at a police officer and that is 715 00:46:54,000 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: in any way, in any way, shape or form acceptable 716 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 1: to anyone's just appalling. I mean, first, that's a cop. 717 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 1: They're there to provide safety in order for everybody. The 718 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 1: Boston Police did a really professional and admirable job on 719 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 1: Saturday from everything that I've seen, just as by the 720 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,320 Speaker 1: way the NYPD did dealing with the Occupy Wall Street movement. 721 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,240 Speaker 1: But you know whether it's a male or female cop. 722 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: Now that's somebody's dad, that's somebody's mom. These little Antifa 723 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: punks are throwing uh urine at them. You know, where 724 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: do we draw the line? Are they allowed to our 725 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 1: antifa punks because they're so anti Trump? Are they allowed 726 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 1: to throw feces at police officers? Know? What? Why is 727 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 1: that not more highlighted in all? Well we know the answer, 728 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: of course. Because the left believes that they're not responsible 729 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 1: for any violence or any problems. Why do we not 730 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 1: hear more stories about this? And also the condemnation from 731 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: within the left. Are are they anti cop or not? 732 00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,959 Speaker 1: I think they should be forced to answer that question. 733 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: Is Antifi anti cop? I've got other audio of them 734 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 1: yelling uh cops and clan, cops and clan. Again, this 735 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 1: was in Dallas, this was in Seattle. They chant cops 736 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: and clan. Now, if we're going to talk about triggering 737 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:22,319 Speaker 1: and aggressions that are speech based against people, do we 738 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 1: get to ever stop and think about, first of all, 739 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: how offensive it is to all cops of any race, creed, 740 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: or color for protesters, and not just offensive, but completely 741 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 1: unfair and and insane to say that. But they're black 742 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 1: police officers in Dallas, are black police officers in Seattle, 743 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,760 Speaker 1: black police officers in every major p D in the country, 744 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: in places like New York is actually very diverse police department. 745 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 1: I know because I worked for the NYPD. You've got 746 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: little punk protesters yelling at those cops who were standing 747 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: there defending all of us, all of them, but African 748 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 1: American officers as well, hops and clan That's in what 749 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 1: universe are we supposed to just overlook that and act 750 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: like it's not a big deal. Well, you and I won't, 751 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 1: but the left certainly does. Are you seeing a lot 752 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: of stories about that? I mean, can you imagine? Can 753 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: you imagine what the response would be if you had 754 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: and any kind of alt right group that was threatening 755 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 1: police officers, throwing human waste at them and chanting vile 756 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 1: and offensive stuff two cops. I mean, it's all you'd 757 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: hear about as as you should. But yet when it's 758 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: on the other side, when it's the left doing this stuff, 759 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: you have this gap. All of a sudden, there's so 760 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 1: much less interest, there's so much less discussion out there, 761 00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 1: the editorial decisions in the various news rooms and websites 762 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 1: and TV channels are skewed away from what would be, 763 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 1: if nothing else interesting television. People would like to see 764 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,880 Speaker 1: audio I think of protesters screaming cops end clan. People 765 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 1: would like to hear the Boston mayor saying that, sure enough, 766 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: there was Boston Police commissioner rather saying there was urn 767 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 1: thrown at at officers, not by the alt right, not 768 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 1: that there's anything good about the alt right, but by 769 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: the left, by the counter protesters. We should know the truth, 770 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: That's what I'm here to tell you. But they're rejecting 771 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 1: reality on the other side when it comes to the 772 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,319 Speaker 1: violence on their own side. Let's talk about the left 773 00:50:47,520 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: argument when with regard to violence and protests. That's audio 774 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 1: from the Dallas anti White Supremacy rally that happened over 775 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 1: the weekend. So you had this, uh, this rally in 776 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: Boston against hate, which was originally a free speech rally. 777 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,439 Speaker 1: But there are only dozens or hundreds of quote free 778 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: speech people who I have read have completely distanced themselves 779 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 1: from any alts right, or they've publicly said that I 780 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 1: don't know enough about the group, very hard as I 781 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 1: had to find information on it. But in Dallas they 782 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:38,280 Speaker 1: had another rally, and this was an anti white supremacy rally, 783 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 1: the Dallas Dallas against white supremacy. And you had a 784 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 1: few thousand people gathered near city Hall and they were 785 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: holding up signs like white supremacy is not welcome in 786 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: our city. Uh. And they also had Donald Trump with 787 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 1: the word racist uh crossed out on his chest and 788 00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,400 Speaker 1: an an effigy of Donald Trump, I should say, with 789 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: reward ray has crossed out of his chest. So I 790 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, this is okay, this is what you can expect, 791 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 1: I suppose from the left. But chanton cops and clan 792 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: hand in hand is just a slur. And that there 793 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 1: were protesters who did this in Dallas. They've also done 794 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: it in Seattle recently this has become a leftist protest 795 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 1: chant that's catching on across the country tells us a lot. 796 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: I think about what the real motives and and motivations 797 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 1: behind some of these movements are. Uh. They are not 798 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: about police reform. They are in fact anti police because 799 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 1: too in any way infer And they're not inferring. They're 800 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 1: just outright stating that the police department of a city 801 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 1: like Dallas that I should just also note, suffered a 802 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 1: mass assassination of police officers. Uh, just what over a 803 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 1: year ago at the hands of a Black Lives Matter devotee, 804 00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 1: that you'd have protesters chanting cops and clan hand in 805 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 1: hand is completely unacceptable. But there will be no calls 806 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,720 Speaker 1: to denounce this. You won't have people asking Nancy Pelosi, 807 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 1: what did you think of that? You know, Miss Pelosi, 808 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, Congressman Pelosi, what do you think about people 809 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: chanting that the police are hand in hand with the 810 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,400 Speaker 1: vile ku Klux Klan, which, by the way, a Democrat entity. 811 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: This is now just forgotten in our history. Robert Byrd, 812 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 1: famous U S. Senator, revered in the Democratic Party, grand 813 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: wizard of the ku Klux Klan. I just segregationists, Democrats. 814 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:40,880 Speaker 1: You look at the history of true legal racism, meaning 815 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 1: legalized racism in the South. It's all Democrats. Uh, it's 816 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 1: all the Democrats doing this. And yet now we are 817 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,879 Speaker 1: led to believe that they're the great defenders of minority groups, 818 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,799 Speaker 1: minority rights. So that you have this over the weekend 819 00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 1: in Dallas, and I also remember antipop protesters throwing your 820 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 1: earn at cops in Boston, Dallas, Anti white supremacy protesters 821 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 1: chanting cops and clan and oh also we're wearing gaps. 822 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,920 Speaker 1: Some of them were in gas masks. They threw rocks 823 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 1: at the police. So they were assaulting cops. To assaulting 824 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:21,320 Speaker 1: cops is what leftist protest movements do. This happens, um. 825 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: But then you had this piece that I just found. 826 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 1: I found it fascinating. I think it's really an instance 827 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 1: of what could be highbrow trolling. The Washington Post published 828 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 1: the same weekend that all this is going on, quote 829 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,400 Speaker 1: why the American left gave up on political violence and 830 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 1: why the right increasingly embraced it. It's by a professor 831 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:49,240 Speaker 1: at Tel Aviv University, and it just makes this case 832 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,839 Speaker 1: that the left doesn't engage in political violence the right 833 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,240 Speaker 1: because it's not effective and because, I mean the argument 834 00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 1: is nonsensical. I read it through it a few times. 835 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 1: He has to admit because of the long history of 836 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 1: leftist violence, including labor union violence, including presidential assassins who 837 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 1: were leftist. I mean, you just the left has been uh, 838 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: the self styled revolutionaries of American politics for as long 839 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: as there's been in America. Right, I mean, the the 840 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: left is uh soaked in violence. And I just mentioned 841 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 1: you the history of racist violence within the left, and 842 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 1: within two months, two months ago, we had an attempted 843 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,920 Speaker 1: mass assassination. Somebody opened fire and members of Congress almost killed, 844 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 1: a number of them hit three people, almost killed Representative 845 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 1: Steve Scalize, and he's a Bernie Sanders supporter. I just 846 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 1: say that people on the left aren't violent is just 847 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 1: to deny It's just to deny reality. It's to pretend 848 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,880 Speaker 1: that people don't have access to Google and are unable 849 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:57,240 Speaker 1: to figure out the most basic, the most basic facts 850 00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 1: of what's really happening. Um. He interesting. He also says, 851 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,879 Speaker 1: and this is one part of the argument that thought 852 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 1: was particularly egregiously stupid. Says that, well, the left has 853 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 1: given a violence because the left is now dominated by 854 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 1: UH by minority groups who have been oppressed and who 855 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 1: have felt the sting of violence and and UH and 856 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,799 Speaker 1: discrimination themselves. Which, putting that aside for a second, the 857 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 1: left is led still primarily by many UH white progressives, 858 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:35,359 Speaker 1: who in fact use those oppressed groups for their own purposes. 859 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 1: But there are plenty of people on the left who 860 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 1: are white who have never faced any oppression and who 861 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 1: have increasingly not just turned to radical politics but also 862 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 1: have tried to turn the government into an instrument of 863 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 1: forcing their political ideology on other people. So as we 864 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,360 Speaker 1: look at what's really happening and the violence that's occurring, 865 00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 1: the political violence in this country, Uh, look at the 866 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 1: protest movements, and of course protest in general tends to 867 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,359 Speaker 1: be a more left wing pastime than right. We don't 868 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 1: like to just gather as a mob and scream and shout. 869 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 1: It's not a conservative approach to life. But when you 870 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 1: see what's really going on with the way that they 871 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 1: are trying to just rewrite the history in front of 872 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 1: our eyes, including recent history, and pretend that the right 873 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 1: is really where the violence is and the left has 874 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: mostly clean hands now when it comes to the street 875 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 1: battles over political ideology, it's just nonsense. But the Washington 876 00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 1: Post will publish it. No surprise. There he's holding the 877 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 1: line for America. Buck Sexton his back. Buck Sexton, back 878 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 1: with you all now, Team. I had mentioned that I 879 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 1: would love to get somebody on who was at the protests, 880 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 1: and we've got somebody. As it turns out, we've got 881 00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 1: Dominic Green joining us. Now. He's a contributor to the 882 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 1: Weekly Standard, and he was at these Boston protests Dominic. 883 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: Good to have you on, sir, Thank you very much. 884 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 1: All right, let's start with it. What just see bring 885 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 1: us into this? While I saw a very small number 886 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 1: of people from the Boston Free Speech Coalition as they 887 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,840 Speaker 1: call themselves, on a bandstand with a very large number 888 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 1: of police around them, and an even large number of 889 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:27,560 Speaker 1: counter demonstration protesters. And in that crowd of counter demonstration 890 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 1: people there was a few supporters of the Free Speech Coalition? 891 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,480 Speaker 1: Who are the free Speech Coalition? Because the way that 892 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 1: this was set up for the casual viewer over the 893 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 1: weekend I happened. I was in Fox News talking about 894 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 1: terror in Spain and the Barcelona attacks, and then all 895 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 1: of a sudden we were switching over to look at 896 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 1: what's going on in Boston. I'm like, wait a second, 897 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:53,120 Speaker 1: who is this free Speech Coalition? Are are they all right? 898 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 1: Or what are they? Who are they? I would describe 899 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 1: them as as people who seem to have grown up 900 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 1: with the alt R in the atmosphere around them, they 901 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:05,160 Speaker 1: seem to be a group of local college students. Um 902 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 1: from my research that I did after attending the demonstrations, 903 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 1: they seemed to be new to it, and they seem 904 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 1: to have got quite out of their depth quite quickly. 905 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 1: So this was not so that so everyone's clear listening though. 906 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 1: This was not Charlottesville in terms of a group of 907 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 1: a few dozen or a few hundred or whatever it is, 908 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 1: marching with Nazi insignias, marching with swastikas, marching and yelling 909 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: sig hil and blood and soil. These are a bunch 910 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,440 Speaker 1: of college kids who are free speech activists. Um. There 911 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 1: was certainly nothing to indicate any visible presence of any 912 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:44,479 Speaker 1: Nazi sympathizers. The local clan did say that they would 913 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 1: be attending that they were not visible if any of 914 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 1: them did turn up. Um. Some of the associations that 915 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: the Boston Free Speech Coalition people have via I would 916 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,560 Speaker 1: say towards the political extremes, but it's very hard to 917 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 1: establish exactly what they think. They haven't really put out 918 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 1: a clear statement, and once people did start to associate 919 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 1: them with what had happened in Charlottesville, they were very 920 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 1: quick to try and get out of it. Yeah, how 921 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 1: how did they? How did this come about? So you've 922 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 1: got a bunch you said, college These are college age kids, right, 923 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,280 Speaker 1: So you've got a bunch of young people that see 924 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 1: the thing in Charlottesville and now they just want to 925 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 1: take a stand for free speech. But then it became 926 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 1: at least portrayed by many on the left as in 927 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 1: some way being in solidarity with the reactionary right in Charlottesville. Right, 928 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean that that seemed to be at least the 929 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 1: way that it was set up going into the weekend. 930 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 1: But I'm getting a sense that that's not. I mean, 931 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 1: then the notion that there was any tie in to 932 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:43,680 Speaker 1: the messages in Charlottesville is not supported by the facts. Um. No, 933 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 1: the the message certainly that the racists and the fascist 934 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,000 Speaker 1: groups had in charlottesvillem not at all. But there were 935 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 1: speakers who have connections who are originally booked to be 936 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 1: in Boston, who do have connections to some of the 937 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 1: organizers of the events in Charlottesville. So there seems to 938 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,760 Speaker 1: be a very hazy indirect relationship. Now, how was it 939 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 1: that you had I saw as many as forty thousand 940 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 1: counter protesters show up. This happened if this was an 941 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,800 Speaker 1: event that was put together somewhat quickly. Was it just 942 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,680 Speaker 1: the spreading like wildfire on social media and people wanted 943 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 1: to show up? And what stand against fact? What did 944 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 1: the counter protesters think they were protesting against when you 945 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 1: tell me that these guys are part of the little 946 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,400 Speaker 1: free speech coalition. Well, there were two main elements to 947 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,280 Speaker 1: the protest. One of them was people who would have 948 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 1: come out, I think to show their revulsion at what 949 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 1: had happened in Charlottesville, and with directing that towards the 950 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 1: next best available thing, which was the free speech coalitions 951 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:48,000 Speaker 1: very unclear rally. And the other about half of the 952 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 1: demonstrators came from a Black Lives Matter march which marched 953 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 1: from the from south of Boston Common and joined up 954 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,560 Speaker 1: with the main protest. Now we have some audio here 955 01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 1: of Boston Antifa Boston Boston to us turn the fascists 956 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:19,960 Speaker 1: into because Boston. Okay, I'm not going to comment on 957 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 1: the artistry here or lack thereof, but they also were 958 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 1: yelling f your free speech. There's some lasting stuff. They're 959 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 1: out there too. They think they're standing against fascism. The 960 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,600 Speaker 1: kids that are the free speech people are not fascist. 961 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 1: But I did see or at least as far as 962 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: we know, non fascist. I did see some black block 963 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,400 Speaker 1: protesters there. So Antifa was present at this protest. Number 964 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,880 Speaker 1: of people who were there most definitely to prevent the 965 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:53,640 Speaker 1: Free Speech Coalition from exercising their right to be offensive. Um, 966 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,600 Speaker 1: they did not, i would say, constituted anything like a 967 01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:00,640 Speaker 1: significant minority even within the protests. Um. But they were 968 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,640 Speaker 1: most definitely there. And the only moments of which things 969 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 1: looked like they could have got out of control were 970 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:11,000 Speaker 1: when the Antifa group tried to block you know, people 971 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 1: wearing Trump insignia, or supporters of the Free Speech Coalition 972 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 1: who were looking to create a drama by moving into 973 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,280 Speaker 1: the crowd with the police escort and so on. Um. 974 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 1: So there were these flash points, but by and large, 975 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 1: most of the people were there, as I said, to 976 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 1: demonstrate their absolute disapproval of what had taken place in Charlottesville. 977 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 1: Tell me a bit though about this exchange that I 978 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,160 Speaker 1: actually saw it when it when it when it happened, 979 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 1: because it was being live streamed. This woman. But we're 980 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,760 Speaker 1: speaking of Dominant Green, who's a contributor to The Weekly Standard. 981 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,120 Speaker 1: He was at the Boston protests over the weekend, which 982 01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 1: had tens of thousands of people. In his latest on 983 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,880 Speaker 1: Weekly stenter dot com is in Boston, everybody wanted. Nobody died, 984 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,920 Speaker 1: so that's a good thing. But tell me a bit 985 01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:58,080 Speaker 1: dominic about this moment where a woman was grabbed or 986 01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,480 Speaker 1: they grabbed the American flag out of her hands, dragged 987 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,800 Speaker 1: her on the ground. There's got a lot of attention. Yes, 988 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,400 Speaker 1: it's hard to know the big picture around that. She 989 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 1: was holding a flag as the Antifa group went past. 990 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 1: It's not clear what she said. One of them doubled 991 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,920 Speaker 1: back and seems to have pushed or hit her, and 992 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,200 Speaker 1: then there's a scuffle and then the next thing, she 993 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,360 Speaker 1: falls onto the ground. Um, it's typical of the kind 994 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 1: of confusion that occurs at these events. There are people 995 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 1: who come to antagonize each other, and you know, these 996 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 1: things can spin out very quickly. There were also cases 997 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,240 Speaker 1: which I did see of people trying to calm things 998 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 1: as well. There were there were also people in the 999 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,600 Speaker 1: crowd shouting at the Antifar people not you know, to 1000 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:39,080 Speaker 1: be so confrontational and aggressive. Oh that's good because usually 1001 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,320 Speaker 1: I've when I've seen black block, which is what everyone's 1002 01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,880 Speaker 1: calling Antifa now, I mean it's it's there's a lot 1003 01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,320 Speaker 1: of similarities. They usually just are able to operate within 1004 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,760 Speaker 1: these protests, within peaceful otherwise peaceful protest movements without a 1005 01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,320 Speaker 1: lot of uh, push back from from those who are 1006 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,920 Speaker 1: just there to make their point and hold up their placards. 1007 01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,160 Speaker 1: So you're telling you that happened, that's good. H Did 1008 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,640 Speaker 1: you see any of the projectiles, including the bottles of 1009 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 1: yurine that were thrown at police officers, any of that 1010 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,600 Speaker 1: or did that come later on? I was on my 1011 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,560 Speaker 1: way home. I think that was at the very end 1012 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,800 Speaker 1: things broke up and and as often happens with big demonstrations, 1013 01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 1: the people who really want to stay behind and fight 1014 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,760 Speaker 1: the police stay behind. Um. I did see bottles of 1015 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 1: water being thrown at supporters of the Free Speech Coalition, 1016 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 1: being thrown from the counter protests, and lots of those 1017 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,600 Speaker 1: ended up hitting the police, who you know, we're in 1018 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,440 Speaker 1: the thick of it and having a hard time. So 1019 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 1: but all, all in all, I have to say this 1020 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:36,080 Speaker 1: was a pretty uh, pretty mellow as far as what 1021 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,440 Speaker 1: we've seen in recent weeks goes. I mean, I think 1022 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,080 Speaker 1: you could even argue some of the protests that have 1023 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:46,760 Speaker 1: happened in Seattle, Dallas and elsewhere were more confrontational, more dangerous, 1024 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,160 Speaker 1: more violent than what we saw in Boston. Common How 1025 01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,600 Speaker 1: much of this do you think is a tributal attributable 1026 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:56,920 Speaker 1: dominic to Boston BPD and their tactics and their community relations, 1027 01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,080 Speaker 1: a lot of it. I do believe that was a 1028 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,400 Speaker 1: major fact. That they used to having big crowds, and 1029 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 1: they used to trying to keep things friendly. I think 1030 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,720 Speaker 1: a crucial factor also is that only one side turned 1031 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 1: up in large numbers. There was only a few dozen 1032 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,840 Speaker 1: people from the Free Speech Coalition and maybe a few 1033 01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,040 Speaker 1: dozen more of their supporters. There wasn't a situation where 1034 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 1: large numbers of people turned up and say as in Charlottesville, 1035 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,240 Speaker 1: were given the run of the town and and then 1036 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,000 Speaker 1: things very quickly were out of control. It seems to 1037 01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:29,200 Speaker 1: me that the counter protesters were actually the protest. You 1038 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,960 Speaker 1: don't say it seems to be the real demonstration were 1039 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 1: the counter demonstrators here. They were certainly the most dangerous 1040 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 1: element in the whole thing, and that they were seeking 1041 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,040 Speaker 1: to push things towards a crisis. No, but I mean, 1042 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,440 Speaker 1: even like those who were there to at some level 1043 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:52,160 Speaker 1: opposed the quote free Speech Coalition, were in such greater 1044 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,320 Speaker 1: numbers and so much more prominence on Boston Common that 1045 01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:59,160 Speaker 1: to call them counter protesters seems to be understating. This 1046 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,520 Speaker 1: was really a gay The ring of people that are 1047 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,800 Speaker 1: trying to oppose Trump and fascism in their own way right, 1048 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:06,840 Speaker 1: And there happened to be a few free speech people 1049 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 1: in the mix, but really they were wildly outnumbered. Now, 1050 01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot to be said for that, 1051 01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,640 Speaker 1: I think, and this is Boston, after all, You're never 1052 01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,919 Speaker 1: going to have trouble gathering a large crowd of people 1053 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 1: to turn out against either fascist groups or President Trump. Um. 1054 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,520 Speaker 1: It had the feeling for me almost of a rehearsal 1055 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,760 Speaker 1: in the way that you know teams do an exhibition 1056 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,360 Speaker 1: game before the season really gets going, and it felt 1057 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:35,600 Speaker 1: like the actual event was elsewhere. Yes, Dominic, I'm not 1058 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 1: sure if you're planning to happen on a plan and 1059 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,000 Speaker 1: going to Phoenix tomorrow, but there is a major political 1060 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:45,600 Speaker 1: rally planned Trump maybe pardoning Sheriff Joe R. Pio. You'd 1061 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:50,000 Speaker 1: be making that announcement in in Phoenix when he's down there. 1062 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,680 Speaker 1: People are saying that this could get out of hand. 1063 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:54,440 Speaker 1: What are you hearing and what do you think is 1064 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,440 Speaker 1: going to happen? Well, to be honest with you, as 1065 01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,680 Speaker 1: you can tell, I'm I'm an immigrant to this country 1066 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,640 Speaker 1: and I and I think anything can happen in the 1067 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:06,040 Speaker 1: current mood. I think the relatively small number of extremists 1068 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,640 Speaker 1: at both ends of the spectrum alarmingly close to the 1069 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,640 Speaker 1: center of the action, and what happens from here on 1070 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,760 Speaker 1: really is a matter of luck and accidents. So you 1071 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if things got a little lot of 1072 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,799 Speaker 1: control down, if you. I mean, I can just imagine 1073 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,320 Speaker 1: they're going to try to shut down highways. I know 1074 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,719 Speaker 1: the hardline activist tactics that we've seen in the past 1075 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:32,759 Speaker 1: from the left and instigating another violent exchange with Trump people, 1076 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:34,439 Speaker 1: similar to what we saw I think it was in 1077 01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,920 Speaker 1: Chicago during the campaign, where people were punching each other 1078 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:39,760 Speaker 1: outside the step. Well, there are a few instances of 1079 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:41,920 Speaker 1: this I could see. I could see that happening here. 1080 01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 1: I have to say, I was amazed that nothing like 1081 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,360 Speaker 1: that really happened on Saturday in Boston, and that was 1082 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,679 Speaker 1: in an unusually peaceable and as I and as I said, 1083 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:54,320 Speaker 1: one sided meeting. Dominic Green is a contributor to The 1084 01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:58,080 Speaker 1: Weekly Standard. He joined us talk about his time firsthand 1085 01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,640 Speaker 1: at the Boston protests. You can it his latest on 1086 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 1: Weekly Standard dot com. In Boston, everybody wanted nobody died Dominant. 1087 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,120 Speaker 1: Great to have you on, man, we hope you'll come back. 1088 01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 1: Thanks very much. Back so team I. I'm glad we've 1089 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,960 Speaker 1: we've covered a lot of the protest movements and everything 1090 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:19,599 Speaker 1: that's been happening with them in this hour because this 1091 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:23,800 Speaker 1: is now you can see, this is a recurring situation. 1092 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,120 Speaker 1: This is not going away. And as I've been saying 1093 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,840 Speaker 1: to you, UH, there is a hidden hand here. There 1094 01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 1: is some behind the scenes that there's definitely coordination of 1095 01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,960 Speaker 1: these protests. That's that's happening that we're not aware of yet. 1096 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:42,000 Speaker 1: I remember back from my time covering Occupy Wall Street 1097 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,960 Speaker 1: and it was really one of my first important beats 1098 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,280 Speaker 1: as a young reporter for The Blaze or what was 1099 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,360 Speaker 1: technically I think assistant editor for National Security, but I 1100 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,320 Speaker 1: was reporting a lot on the protests at the time, 1101 01:09:55,960 --> 01:10:01,040 Speaker 1: and I I do remember um seeing the these activists 1102 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:07,160 Speaker 1: getting together and holding pre rally UH coordination meetings where 1103 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,960 Speaker 1: they would discuss, Okay, if we you know, which is 1104 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,960 Speaker 1: going to be the faction that does stuff that maybe 1105 01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:14,960 Speaker 1: is illegal and gets us arrested, who's going to be 1106 01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:16,760 Speaker 1: the who are gonna be the ones lying down in 1107 01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,479 Speaker 1: the streets? Uh? And and what's going to be our 1108 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:24,639 Speaker 1: messaging on social media? And this is political theater for 1109 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 1: the digital age. It can be very powerful though. I 1110 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,360 Speaker 1: mean I remember it was actually just blocks away from 1111 01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,280 Speaker 1: where I was at the time. I was. I went 1112 01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:37,160 Speaker 1: to most of the major Occupy Wall Street protests. I 1113 01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,040 Speaker 1: was there the night that they were evicted from Zukkati Park, 1114 01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,040 Speaker 1: I was. I was there as they were getting kicked 1115 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,559 Speaker 1: out by the ny P p D finally after weeks 1116 01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:48,439 Speaker 1: and weeks of being camped out in that square. Uh. 1117 01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,200 Speaker 1: I was there for one night when I really thought 1118 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,360 Speaker 1: things were going to get violent with an anti cop 1119 01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:56,920 Speaker 1: movement that was just vicious and how much they despise 1120 01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,600 Speaker 1: the police and how open they were about it. But 1121 01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:04,120 Speaker 1: I remember them discussing what the what the messaging would be, 1122 01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,320 Speaker 1: what the tactics would be. This is all they understand 1123 01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:11,240 Speaker 1: the impact of this. This is literally for show. This 1124 01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,599 Speaker 1: is so that people will latch onto some of these 1125 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:19,599 Speaker 1: political ideas. It is uh, it is protest as meme. 1126 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,760 Speaker 1: That's what they're trying to do. That's the ideology at 1127 01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:27,479 Speaker 1: work here, and if they can create a circumstance And yes, 1128 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,200 Speaker 1: I know I'm not the you've heard this from others 1129 01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,880 Speaker 1: uh in the past. If they can take pages from 1130 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:38,040 Speaker 1: the Olynsky playbook, make protest fun, make it something people 1131 01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,840 Speaker 1: want to do, make it almost a social event. So 1132 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:46,479 Speaker 1: and then they merge that with digital age technology, social 1133 01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 1: media platforms. Remember Olynsky didn't have Twitter, he didn't have Facebook, 1134 01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:53,080 Speaker 1: he didn't have live streaming. Now that they can do 1135 01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:57,760 Speaker 1: all of those things, they have the ability to pick 1136 01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,559 Speaker 1: and choose what parts of the protests, what they're going 1137 01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 1: to show. Uh, they can make sure that any adverse 1138 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,920 Speaker 1: reaction they get from Trump supporters, right wing or as 1139 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,400 Speaker 1: any of that is immediately highlighted, they know they'll get 1140 01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,639 Speaker 1: a lot of media support and cover for it. So 1141 01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,840 Speaker 1: what we're seeing play out here is I think Occupy 1142 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 1: Wall Street for the Trump era. Um. They're calling it antifa, 1143 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:27,120 Speaker 1: but Antifa is so associated only with this black block 1144 01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,960 Speaker 1: element um that I don't know if that's really the 1145 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,240 Speaker 1: branding yet, but it's there. This is a merger that's 1146 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:37,519 Speaker 1: happening between Black Lives Matter, Antifa, the Occupy Wall Street, 1147 01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:42,799 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders Socialist, the sander Nistas. That's all coming together 1148 01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:46,679 Speaker 1: right now. And this is a major political and protest 1149 01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 1: movement across the country that we are seeing. It's this 1150 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,000 Speaker 1: is this is you know what it is. This is 1151 01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,519 Speaker 1: hashtag resistance. That's what it is. This is how it's 1152 01:12:55,560 --> 01:13:01,280 Speaker 1: all coming together. This is hash tag resistance. The violent left, 1153 01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:05,880 Speaker 1: the aggressive left is woke. There's a term it's used 1154 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:07,960 Speaker 1: on the left for people that are socially conscious and 1155 01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,160 Speaker 1: read the read the Huffington Post and are cool. They 1156 01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:15,880 Speaker 1: are woke right now, Buck Sexton, back with you now. Team. 1157 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,440 Speaker 1: In the next hour, gonna do a deep dive on Afghanistan. 1158 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,760 Speaker 1: I think you'll hear more in depth analysis from me 1159 01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:27,160 Speaker 1: and also from a really excellent expert on South Asia 1160 01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,400 Speaker 1: and counterinsurgency against the Taliban in the next hour than 1161 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,320 Speaker 1: you will anywhere else tonight or the next twenty four hours. 1162 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,759 Speaker 1: And of course Donald Trump giving a speech tonight, major 1163 01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:42,000 Speaker 1: address to the nation on Afghan Afghanistan policy. So, uh, 1164 01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,720 Speaker 1: this is a critical issue right now. It's time to 1165 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,640 Speaker 1: either end this or get this right. That's where I 1166 01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,200 Speaker 1: come down in Afghanistan. We either know what we're doing 1167 01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,360 Speaker 1: and we do it and we execute as a country 1168 01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,160 Speaker 1: and the White House pushes this forward, or else we've tried, 1169 01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,479 Speaker 1: We've done our thing, We've given the Afghans the best 1170 01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,080 Speaker 1: we can and now it's time to move on to 1171 01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:00,800 Speaker 1: a different phase. And they're gonna have to do this 1172 01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:02,920 Speaker 1: on their own. It is it is time for us 1173 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,240 Speaker 1: to come to a resolution here one way or another. 1174 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,559 Speaker 1: It has been already too long, too much blood and 1175 01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:13,960 Speaker 1: treasure spent in Afghanistan. Um I am favorable to the 1176 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:18,920 Speaker 1: notion of stabilizing situation now and making a program for 1177 01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,800 Speaker 1: UH for a a U S presence there that is 1178 01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:27,200 Speaker 1: day minimous, so a very limited U S military training 1179 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,680 Speaker 1: and assist presence, and that's it, unless we want to 1180 01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:36,080 Speaker 1: go the South Korea Germany route and leave a US 1181 01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,040 Speaker 1: leave US forces. Keep in mind, in South Korean Germany 1182 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,240 Speaker 1: we're not an engaged in active hostilities though you know, 1183 01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,240 Speaker 1: you don't have mortar rounds flying onto the base all 1184 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,559 Speaker 1: the time, So it is different to keep a long 1185 01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,960 Speaker 1: term presence in Afghanistan. But well, I'll give you my 1186 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:50,639 Speaker 1: sense of where all that is in the next hour. 1187 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,679 Speaker 1: I also didn't want to completely skip over this because 1188 01:14:55,960 --> 01:15:00,000 Speaker 1: the UH Navy. I don't know much about the Navy. 1189 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,640 Speaker 1: I've just been seeing these stories, but the Navy has 1190 01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,960 Speaker 1: been having a very difficult time recently, we've lost sailors 1191 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,760 Speaker 1: and no one seems to have any good answers. Here's 1192 01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,560 Speaker 1: a piece in the Wall Streetjournal Navy to pause operations 1193 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:15,160 Speaker 1: and review collisions with ten missing. You've had two major 1194 01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,759 Speaker 1: collisions with naval vessels over the last couple of months, 1195 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,479 Speaker 1: and the most recent one left ten sailors missing. No 1196 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,120 Speaker 1: answers yet from the Navy on this. Something fishy going 1197 01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,479 Speaker 1: on here, something very strange. So any of you who 1198 01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:30,519 Speaker 1: have a background in naval service warfare or just ships, 1199 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,080 Speaker 1: Facebook dot com, slash buck sex and let me know. 1200 01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:34,720 Speaker 1: I've got to dive deeper into this one. I don't 1201 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,360 Speaker 1: have the answers on it, and I needed to do 1202 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:40,280 Speaker 1: a little more research. But obviously I feel terrible for 1203 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,200 Speaker 1: what's happened to those sailors and their families. So we'll 1204 01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:48,920 Speaker 1: revisit that store and we have more. He's back with 1205 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,799 Speaker 1: you now, because when it comes to the fight for truth, 1206 01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:56,120 Speaker 1: the buck never stops. Buck Sexton back with you all now. 1207 01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,759 Speaker 1: Soon after this radio broadcast, President Trump will be giving 1208 01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:06,040 Speaker 1: speech on the new strategy in Afghanistan, and I wanted 1209 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,519 Speaker 1: to give you my thoughts before the speech, and of 1210 01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:13,600 Speaker 1: course i'll give you tomorrow some after action analysis or 1211 01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:17,080 Speaker 1: after speech analysis, and I also expect that I will 1212 01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:21,959 Speaker 1: be on Fox News tomorrow morning nine fifteen ish Eastern 1213 01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:27,280 Speaker 1: Eastern I think talking about President Trump's speech on Afghanistan. 1214 01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:34,879 Speaker 1: Here is the necessary background to understanding Afghan US policy 1215 01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:39,280 Speaker 1: at this point, and it's not going well. I've been 1216 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,840 Speaker 1: telling you this for months, but by every metric that 1217 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:47,000 Speaker 1: we can use to gauge the trajectory of the conflict 1218 01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:52,719 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan, it is getting worse. And as we look 1219 01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:56,960 Speaker 1: now and see that the President is going to be 1220 01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,840 Speaker 1: taking a new strategy or taking a new approach to this, 1221 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,200 Speaker 1: we first have to understand the depth of the problem. 1222 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:10,360 Speaker 1: We have been involved in Afghanistan for sixteen years. Before 1223 01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:14,360 Speaker 1: we can do anything in Afghanistan, we should at least 1224 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,240 Speaker 1: come to grips with the fact that what has been 1225 01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:21,080 Speaker 1: tried thus far has not achieved the objectives set forth 1226 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:25,040 Speaker 1: by the International Security Assistance Force I have, and that 1227 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:29,959 Speaker 1: objective has changed over time. It was a stable, secure, 1228 01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:34,960 Speaker 1: democratic Afghanistan, and then it became an Afghanistan that was 1229 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,640 Speaker 1: able to defend itself against the Taliban and stable, and 1230 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:42,599 Speaker 1: now it's really more an Afghanistan that just won't descend 1231 01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:47,120 Speaker 1: into chaos and anarchy and become a home for jihadas 1232 01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:51,040 Speaker 1: groups like al Qaeda and UH and others. The Islamic 1233 01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:56,800 Speaker 1: State has a faction in Afghanistan, but that moving goalposts, 1234 01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,320 Speaker 1: which we have been moving has yet to be met. 1235 01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:03,040 Speaker 1: And we've been there for over fifteen years of combat. 1236 01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,839 Speaker 1: And the central government in Kabul in Afghanistan is unable 1237 01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,000 Speaker 1: to fully control the east or the south of the 1238 01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:13,240 Speaker 1: country and over the last twelve months has even lost 1239 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:18,240 Speaker 1: major cities in the north and is under pressure in 1240 01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:23,040 Speaker 1: the west. So the US is expected to send four 1241 01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:27,080 Speaker 1: thousand more troops and they would be joining with the 1242 01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:31,599 Speaker 1: roughly nine thousand total ISAF troops that are in country 1243 01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:35,080 Speaker 1: right now. ISAF is our alliance there well. There are 1244 01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,880 Speaker 1: fourteen thousand NATO troops in total, nine thousand of them 1245 01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:45,439 Speaker 1: are American, but the fighting has been largely done, especially 1246 01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,719 Speaker 1: in the last six to twelve months, by the Afghan 1247 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:54,320 Speaker 1: security forces, and they are getting beat up bad. Afghan 1248 01:18:54,840 --> 01:19:01,080 Speaker 1: army casualties were over fifteen thousand in twenty sixteen. The 1249 01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:05,439 Speaker 1: US has been providing logistics and intelligence support, but that 1250 01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:09,320 Speaker 1: logistics and intelligence support and UH and air power and 1251 01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,920 Speaker 1: other areas where we are helpful to the Afghans is 1252 01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,400 Speaker 1: not enough because we can't do the fighting for them. 1253 01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:21,560 Speaker 1: And the Taliban is a very resourceful and very resilient, 1254 01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:27,200 Speaker 1: perhaps most importantly, a very resilient enemy. So the violence 1255 01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:32,000 Speaker 1: metrics against the central government, the violence metrics against Afghanistan 1256 01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:37,959 Speaker 1: have been going up UH dramatically, and the control metrics. 1257 01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,639 Speaker 1: So you've got more casualties that the Afghan national security 1258 01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,200 Speaker 1: forces are facing now than really at any time, with 1259 01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:50,080 Speaker 1: the exception of the Obama era Obama administration surge of 1260 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,960 Speaker 1: over a hundred thousand troops into Afghanistan, really in the 1261 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:58,639 Speaker 1: middle of President Obama's time in office, we are seeing 1262 01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:04,280 Speaker 1: a huge spike in violent attacks against government forces and 1263 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:09,240 Speaker 1: and UH, mass casualty attacks, very complex attack stage in 1264 01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,320 Speaker 1: Cobble in what are supposed to be the most secure 1265 01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:17,040 Speaker 1: areas of the capital city and also in the So 1266 01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,320 Speaker 1: that's on the violence metrics, you know, that's how we 1267 01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,639 Speaker 1: gauge as we look at the numbers, because if you're 1268 01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,479 Speaker 1: just trying to gauge us by perception, well then it 1269 01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,040 Speaker 1: all depends on who you ask, right. Oh, well, Afghanistan 1270 01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:30,680 Speaker 1: has made some progress on women's literacy or something the 1271 01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:32,960 Speaker 1: last few years, or you know, there's much cleaner water 1272 01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:34,559 Speaker 1: now in some areas that used to be Those are 1273 01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,479 Speaker 1: good things, but that doesn't really tell you much about 1274 01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:41,360 Speaker 1: the security picture. So violence numbers way up, and also 1275 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:46,320 Speaker 1: control areas of the country that are either contested, I mean, 1276 01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:51,120 Speaker 1: the Afghan government and the Taliban are fighting over who's 1277 01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:56,519 Speaker 1: really calling the shots. Those areas are uh there, there 1278 01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,439 Speaker 1: are more of those areas now than the word before. 1279 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,760 Speaker 1: Things have gotten eurse and depending on the estimates, you 1280 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:05,320 Speaker 1: see really thirty to forty and as many as fifty 1281 01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:10,400 Speaker 1: percent of Afghanistan is either controlled by the Taliban or 1282 01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:17,160 Speaker 1: contested by the Taliban. And the strategy shift that we had, 1283 01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,280 Speaker 1: if you can call it that, it really just the 1284 01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:23,960 Speaker 1: uh the approach that the Obama aministration was taking became 1285 01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:29,960 Speaker 1: much more uh well, much more attuned to the possibility 1286 01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:34,080 Speaker 1: of a deal with the Taliban, which is just never 1287 01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:35,960 Speaker 1: going to come. This idea that we're going to have 1288 01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:40,320 Speaker 1: a negotiated settlement with the Taliban that will be respected 1289 01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:44,880 Speaker 1: by the Taliban is uh, it's just not realistic. I 1290 01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,720 Speaker 1: don't know what else to say. I know, we'd like 1291 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,360 Speaker 1: to think that there's some way to work through intermediaries 1292 01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:53,200 Speaker 1: or interlock euters come up with some kind of an 1293 01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:58,480 Speaker 1: agreement to end this now sixteenth year of war in Afghanistan. 1294 01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:02,200 Speaker 1: But it does not take into account that idea, does 1295 01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:05,120 Speaker 1: not take into account whom would be on the other 1296 01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:11,520 Speaker 1: side of that, And it is aj hottest totalitarian ideology 1297 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:17,000 Speaker 1: with the Taliban. They are absolute hardliners. They are deeply 1298 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:22,200 Speaker 1: opposed to not just the liberalization of Afghanistan, but they 1299 01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:26,800 Speaker 1: are they hate the United States for obvious reasons. So 1300 01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:30,479 Speaker 1: if we were to negotiate a deal and then pull 1301 01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:34,000 Speaker 1: out troops, we would be fooling ourselves. There's no deal 1302 01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,040 Speaker 1: that can be had with the Taliban. And and I 1303 01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,519 Speaker 1: don't care what the experts say on this or how 1304 01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:40,680 Speaker 1: much they promised that it would. Yeah, there might be 1305 01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,120 Speaker 1: a deal for six months or even two years, but 1306 01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,600 Speaker 1: then it will fall apart and the Taliban will be ascended. 1307 01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,720 Speaker 1: And that's just the reality that we face there. So 1308 01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,280 Speaker 1: now you also have to look at the other regional 1309 01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:56,560 Speaker 1: proxy players that are involved in this. You have Pakistan 1310 01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:00,679 Speaker 1: plays an enormous role with the sanctuary that it provides, 1311 01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:04,680 Speaker 1: and remember Pakistan has a large Pashtun community. The Taliban 1312 01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:08,640 Speaker 1: is a Pashtun ethnic group. You have many layers of 1313 01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:13,479 Speaker 1: conflict inside Afghanistan right now. Okay, You've got the UH, 1314 01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:18,280 Speaker 1: the insurgency against the Afghan government, which the Taliban is leading, 1315 01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,759 Speaker 1: and it views the Afghan government as a puppet regime, 1316 01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:26,320 Speaker 1: and it views democracy as illegitimate, and so that's the 1317 01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:28,960 Speaker 1: primary fight that we focus on. But you also have 1318 01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:34,240 Speaker 1: a Pashtun a Pashtun versus other tribes fight. The Pashtun 1319 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:38,839 Speaker 1: are the pride predominant or they they are the ethnic 1320 01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:42,400 Speaker 1: tribal group of the Taliban, but you also have Uzbeks 1321 01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:46,839 Speaker 1: and Tajiks and Hazaras UH. These are other groups inside 1322 01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:51,160 Speaker 1: of Afghanistan that are fighting with the Taliban and fighting 1323 01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:54,840 Speaker 1: with the Pashtun militants in the country. And you have 1324 01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:59,320 Speaker 1: a fight between rural areas that are very resistant to 1325 01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:03,400 Speaker 1: change and very regressive in their ideology with the more progressive, 1326 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:09,160 Speaker 1: if you can call it that, the more liberalized urban Afghans, 1327 01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:10,880 Speaker 1: who are the ones who are saying that the country 1328 01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:14,599 Speaker 1: needs to move forward and needs to capitalize on its 1329 01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:18,599 Speaker 1: mining deposits and and have a more modern economy and 1330 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,439 Speaker 1: rule of law and all of that. So there are 1331 01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:23,519 Speaker 1: all these different layers of tension in the country. And 1332 01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:27,040 Speaker 1: then you've got the great game, the major powers that 1333 01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:32,800 Speaker 1: are using Afghanistan as a place for them to work 1334 01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:36,559 Speaker 1: out their own problems with each other, so to speak. 1335 01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:39,720 Speaker 1: The biggest one, the most important one in the region. Well, 1336 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,640 Speaker 1: there's really two that are actually very very important. You 1337 01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:47,840 Speaker 1: have Pakistan and India that and they're both squaring off 1338 01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:52,479 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan. The way this works is that Pakistan views 1339 01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:58,280 Speaker 1: Afghanistan as a threat because the because the Indian government 1340 01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:02,080 Speaker 1: tries to cozy up to the Afghan government, which makes 1341 01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:07,520 Speaker 1: the Pakistani's, who are facing a much larger Indian population 1342 01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:10,360 Speaker 1: and much more capable Indian military than what Pakistan has, 1343 01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:13,800 Speaker 1: and of course nukes on both sides, they feel like 1344 01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:17,120 Speaker 1: they now could have an enemy on on all sides 1345 01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,639 Speaker 1: or on on on all sides because of India, right, India, 1346 01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:24,439 Speaker 1: they square off and look at each other across across 1347 01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:29,200 Speaker 1: India and Pakistan across the border. Um. But then you 1348 01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,760 Speaker 1: add Afghanistan into the mix and there are major concerns 1349 01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:36,200 Speaker 1: for the Pakistani's about that, and so they use the 1350 01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:39,200 Speaker 1: Taliban and the hardliners and the you know, the Hakani 1351 01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:44,520 Speaker 1: network as a means of asserting Pakistani and yes, Pashtun 1352 01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:49,000 Speaker 1: interests in Afghanistan as a means of preventing India from 1353 01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:55,240 Speaker 1: establishing a kind of forward operating base in Afghanistan against Pakistan. 1354 01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:57,400 Speaker 1: As crazy as I know that may sound, that is 1355 01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:02,839 Speaker 1: what's going on. The other major regional player is Iran, 1356 01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,840 Speaker 1: which is on the border of Afghanistan to the west. 1357 01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:11,000 Speaker 1: And in fact, the Tajiks in Afghanistan speak Dori, which 1358 01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,840 Speaker 1: is really just a way, it was really just a 1359 01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:18,520 Speaker 1: dialect of Farsi, which is the predominant language of Persians 1360 01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:23,479 Speaker 1: in Iran. And so Iran has cultural, ethnic, linguistic ties 1361 01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:27,160 Speaker 1: to western Afghanistan and doesn't like because Iran is a 1362 01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:32,080 Speaker 1: Shia state, doesn't like the Taliban, which is a Sunni 1363 01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:36,160 Speaker 1: a Sunni Muslim group, but has been willing to play 1364 01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:40,480 Speaker 1: games in the past to undermine US interests in Afghanistan's. 1365 01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:44,240 Speaker 1: You've got Iran as a regional player. That is, there 1366 01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:47,360 Speaker 1: are already reports that Iranians are helping the Taliban and 1367 01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:51,280 Speaker 1: deepening their ties to it. And another one is Russia. 1368 01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:54,320 Speaker 1: You've got to remember that during the Soviet era, all 1369 01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:59,960 Speaker 1: these countries, the stands that are above Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, who's 1370 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:04,800 Speaker 1: Bebekistan and Tajikistan. They all uh that they were under 1371 01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,960 Speaker 1: the Soviet orbit and so on. The Soviet Union, of 1372 01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:11,479 Speaker 1: course invaded Afghanistan, and we all know about that Charlie 1373 01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:15,880 Speaker 1: Wilson's War, the Mouja Hadeen. So the Russians know this 1374 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,599 Speaker 1: part of the world well, have very bitter memories of 1375 01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:23,160 Speaker 1: it uh and are continuing to look for ways to 1376 01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:25,640 Speaker 1: exert their influence. But they also want to try to 1377 01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:29,000 Speaker 1: leave the mess to America, and they wanted to be 1378 01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:33,240 Speaker 1: our problem. So anyway, we'll continue to look at Afghanistan. 1379 01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:34,760 Speaker 1: I'll have more for you on what I think is 1380 01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:36,719 Speaker 1: going on there and what we can expect from tonight's 1381 01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:41,320 Speaker 1: speech on the other side of this break Um buck 1382 01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:44,519 Speaker 1: Sexton dot com for news stories throughout the day, by 1383 01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,280 Speaker 1: the way, and also if you're not already, please do 1384 01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,599 Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter. The way to do that is 1385 01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,880 Speaker 1: at buck Sexton. Alright, team, we've got an expert joining 1386 01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,799 Speaker 1: us now on Afghanistan, Bill Roggio. He's a senior fellow 1387 01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:59,200 Speaker 1: at the Foundation for Defense of Democracy and editor at 1388 01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:02,160 Speaker 1: f d D Long War Journal, which is a phenomenal 1389 01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:05,000 Speaker 1: resource for those who interested in what's going on in 1390 01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,960 Speaker 1: Afghanistan and other hotspots around the globe. Bill gred to 1391 01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,720 Speaker 1: have you. Thanks for having me, always a pleasure. All Right, 1392 01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,960 Speaker 1: before we get into the Trump speech tonight and what 1393 01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:17,000 Speaker 1: Trump policy going forward should be, how bad are things 1394 01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:19,439 Speaker 1: right now in Afghanistan, walk me through some of the 1395 01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,800 Speaker 1: numbers comparatively to what it's been in the past. Sure, 1396 01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:26,000 Speaker 1: I would say the situation in Afghanistan is as bleak 1397 01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:29,719 Speaker 1: as it's been since the US forces invaded immediately after 1398 01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:33,280 Speaker 1: nine eleven into in late two thousand and one. UM. 1399 01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:37,160 Speaker 1: To put it in perspective, the US military claims that 1400 01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:43,000 Speaker 1: the Taliban controls or contests of Afghanistan staratory. And keep 1401 01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,160 Speaker 1: in mind, this is going to be the best case scenario. 1402 01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,519 Speaker 1: The US military is going is going to end is 1403 01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:53,800 Speaker 1: painting the rosiest picture possible, because that's what US commanders do. UM. 1404 01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:57,679 Speaker 1: The Afghanistan in earlier this year claimed the controlled controlled 1405 01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:01,639 Speaker 1: or contests are over and had a presence in probably 1406 01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:05,680 Speaker 1: another forty percent of the country. So UM and I, 1407 01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:07,280 Speaker 1: by the way, I put a lot of credence into 1408 01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:09,720 Speaker 1: the Taliban's claims, given on what they were claiming they 1409 01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:12,519 Speaker 1: controlled and what they were claiming they did in control, uh, 1410 01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,320 Speaker 1: the Afghan forces are having their bases overrun, They're being 1411 01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:19,920 Speaker 1: killed and captured in probably on US commanders have said 1412 01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:23,240 Speaker 1: this in unsustainable numbers, so that it's it's bleak to 1413 01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:27,320 Speaker 1: put it mildly. Now, why would a few thousand troops 1414 01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:30,599 Speaker 1: or how would a few thousand troops make a difference 1415 01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,479 Speaker 1: given the situation that you've just outlined. What what can 1416 01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,680 Speaker 1: Trump do now? Is assuming that it is three or 1417 01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:39,720 Speaker 1: four thousand, is he buying time for a grand strategy 1418 01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,920 Speaker 1: to be put in place? Is this just now the 1419 01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:44,800 Speaker 1: new normal that it's a stopgap measure that's indefinite. What 1420 01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:46,639 Speaker 1: do you think should What do you think is happening 1421 01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:49,240 Speaker 1: with the Trump policy? What I think is going on 1422 01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:51,920 Speaker 1: here is I think he is going to put a 1423 01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:54,519 Speaker 1: small number troops. It's not just the number, it's also 1424 01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:56,640 Speaker 1: how they're used. So if there will rules engagement or 1425 01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,880 Speaker 1: relax if the US can use air power to greater effect, 1426 01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,560 Speaker 1: um not be limited on how it can conduct strikes, 1427 01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:08,680 Speaker 1: a small surge and forces can at least arrest the 1428 01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:12,439 Speaker 1: Taliban's gains and perhaps set them set them back a 1429 01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:14,960 Speaker 1: little bit. And if the U. S Military can show 1430 01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:18,240 Speaker 1: some success in doing this, I think there's an opportunity 1431 01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:23,280 Speaker 1: for additional resources to be brought to bear in Afghanistan, 1432 01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:27,519 Speaker 1: whether that's troops, air, air support, whatever. And also I 1433 01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:29,599 Speaker 1: think that I also think accompanying the policy, you're probably 1434 01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:33,080 Speaker 1: going to see an increased pressure on Pakistan because without Pakistan, 1435 01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:36,080 Speaker 1: that's the lifeblood of the Taliban, and without Pakistan, the 1436 01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:40,000 Speaker 1: Taliban would be it would be hard pressed to maintain 1437 01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:44,640 Speaker 1: its insurgency and fight as it has. It's Afghanistan. Pakistans 1438 01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:50,799 Speaker 1: provide safe even material support, you know too, training camps, 1439 01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:54,120 Speaker 1: you name it, Pakistan provides it. We're speaking of Bill Roggio, 1440 01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:57,000 Speaker 1: Senior fellow at the Foundation for Defensive Democracy. Those of 1441 01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:58,320 Speaker 1: you who want to know what's going on in the 1442 01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:01,560 Speaker 1: world of counterinsurgency Long War Journal, just type it in 1443 01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,080 Speaker 1: a lot on Google. It's a resource for all of you. 1444 01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:07,360 Speaker 1: And Bill is the editor there. Bill, you mentioned Pakistan. 1445 01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:09,640 Speaker 1: People are saying put more pressure. This reminds me a 1446 01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:11,639 Speaker 1: little bit though, when we say, well, let's get China 1447 01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:15,559 Speaker 1: to put more pressure on North Korea. Okay, how and 1448 01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:19,080 Speaker 1: how much? Well, I would argue that China really could 1449 01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:21,600 Speaker 1: put pressure on North koreaan it chooses not to it 1450 01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:23,800 Speaker 1: chooses to let North Korea be the thorn in the 1451 01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:26,800 Speaker 1: side the Pakistan. What we have to do is we 1452 01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,160 Speaker 1: have to instead of what we've done over the last 1453 01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,880 Speaker 1: fifteen plus years is give money to Pakistan and tell 1454 01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:35,519 Speaker 1: them we're they're best friends and hope they change their behavior. 1455 01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:37,920 Speaker 1: It's it's akin to given crack to a crack addict 1456 01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:41,479 Speaker 1: and expect them to stop um being a drug user. 1457 01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:44,240 Speaker 1: That's that's been our policy in a nutshell with Pakistan. 1458 01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:46,120 Speaker 1: We have to cut off the money and then we 1459 01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:49,720 Speaker 1: have to slowly start lamping up the pressure, you know, 1460 01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:52,960 Speaker 1: going from it could be stopping you know, halting imports, 1461 01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:56,080 Speaker 1: it could be stopping visas or stopping travel from the country, 1462 01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:58,679 Speaker 1: all the way up to listing Pakistan as a state 1463 01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:03,400 Speaker 1: sponsor of terrorism and perhaps declaring India major ally. That 1464 01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:06,799 Speaker 1: is probably Pakistan's worst nightmare. At the US and India 1465 01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:10,040 Speaker 1: became he became real partners. And I think, you know, 1466 01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:13,320 Speaker 1: we haven't tried any of this because we fear that Pakistan, well, 1467 01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:15,960 Speaker 1: it's a nuclear armed state and we they've been an 1468 01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:18,280 Speaker 1: ally in the past, but they haven't. They're responsible for 1469 01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:21,599 Speaker 1: the deaths of thousands of American soldiers and I would 1470 01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:25,519 Speaker 1: say directly responsible as well as a failed failure of 1471 01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,920 Speaker 1: US policy in Afghanistan. The Trump administration is coming out 1472 01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:31,920 Speaker 1: of Afghanistan out with fresh eyes, and they're putting in 1473 01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,240 Speaker 1: place a new strategy. We'll look got about a minute bill, 1474 01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:36,360 Speaker 1: but I wanted to know from you what should their 1475 01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:39,800 Speaker 1: desired end state be. What's a realistic win or a 1476 01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:43,160 Speaker 1: realistic end at least to the US conflict in Afghanistan. 1477 01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,679 Speaker 1: In the short term, it has to be to stop 1478 01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:49,559 Speaker 1: the Taliban gains and maybe roll some of them back. 1479 01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:52,799 Speaker 1: In the long term, if you want to have success, 1480 01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,880 Speaker 1: Afghanistan is never going to be the United States. It's 1481 01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:59,800 Speaker 1: probably you know, never going to be you know Somali. Well, 1482 01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,519 Speaker 1: now that's probably going way to low Somalities, probably akin 1483 01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:07,160 Speaker 1: to to Afghanistan. However, we um we have to we're 1484 01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:11,639 Speaker 1: not going to have a successful, flourishing democracy. A good 1485 01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,040 Speaker 1: end state, a decent end state, would be the Taliban 1486 01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:17,240 Speaker 1: is beaten down to a low level insurgency where it 1487 01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:20,880 Speaker 1: doesn't control territory, where Al Qaeda camp running training camps, 1488 01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:24,479 Speaker 1: as it's done as recently as October two thousand fifteen, 1489 01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:27,000 Speaker 1: when it was running one of the largest camps the 1490 01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:31,559 Speaker 1: United States has seen since nine eleven. So that's you know, 1491 01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:33,960 Speaker 1: it's that is what success is going to look like 1492 01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:38,160 Speaker 1: in US. US providing the enablers to get Afghanistan to 1493 01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:41,559 Speaker 1: just fight its enemies. That's has to be our primary goal. 1494 01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:44,000 Speaker 1: Fight their enemies who are are in the best case scenario, 1495 01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:46,080 Speaker 1: real quick, Bill, we are years away from that, aren't 1496 01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:49,160 Speaker 1: we best case It could be a decade away from that. 1497 01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:51,479 Speaker 1: And so this is the most important thing that US 1498 01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:53,960 Speaker 1: president has to do is has to explain it to 1499 01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,320 Speaker 1: the American public, and not just once, but has to 1500 01:33:56,320 --> 01:34:00,200 Speaker 1: do it continually. Bill Roggio, Foundation of Defense Democracies got 1501 01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,200 Speaker 1: long World Journal, Bill, thanks so much for joining. Thank 1502 01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:05,560 Speaker 1: you always a pleasure to join you. Team. Hitting a 1503 01:34:05,600 --> 01:35:07,120 Speaker 1: break here will be right back. Stay would be s 1504 01:35:23,920 --> 01:36:15,320 Speaker 1: S S S S S S S S S S 1505 01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:32,920 Speaker 1: S S s s s s s s s s 1506 01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:49,600 Speaker 1: s s s s s s s s s s 1507 01:36:51,960 --> 01:37:04,840 Speaker 1: s s s s s s s s s s 1508 01:37:06,200 --> 01:39:35,920 Speaker 1: S s s s. Time to see Papa sat Si 1509 01:39:41,240 --> 01:40:19,360 Speaker 1: se si stunt sis statists. Yeah, he's holding the line 1510 01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:24,320 Speaker 1: for America. Buck sex in his back the eclips once 1511 01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:27,640 Speaker 1: today everybody buck sex didn't back with you now. I 1512 01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:31,519 Speaker 1: know there hasn't been an eclipse full eclipse in this 1513 01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:35,400 Speaker 1: country since nine eighteen, and so today was a day 1514 01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:42,479 Speaker 1: of a lot of celebration of the Earth, well of 1515 01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:45,400 Speaker 1: the of the Sun being temporarily blocked by the moon 1516 01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:51,120 Speaker 1: and then casting a shadow on the Earth. Yeah, it was. 1517 01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,920 Speaker 1: I wish I knew enough about astrology to have some 1518 01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:58,160 Speaker 1: interesting things to say about it. My father is actually, 1519 01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:03,400 Speaker 1: oddly enough, quite knowledgeable about astrology. In retrospect, I probably 1520 01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:06,360 Speaker 1: should have had him come on the show as a guest. 1521 01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:08,719 Speaker 1: And I was gonna say the next time there's an eclipse, 1522 01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:12,439 Speaker 1: I will, but that won't be for a hundred years, 1523 01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:15,040 Speaker 1: so we might not be around for that one. But 1524 01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:18,120 Speaker 1: perhaps another time when there is a major solar event 1525 01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:21,240 Speaker 1: of some kind, I'll have my dad, who is just 1526 01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:24,760 Speaker 1: as a as a hobby as very knowledgeable about astrology 1527 01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:27,920 Speaker 1: on the show to shed some light on these things, 1528 01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:32,040 Speaker 1: or shed some shadow, if you know. It was. It 1529 01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:36,960 Speaker 1: was weak. The news anchor puns today and the plays, 1530 01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:40,840 Speaker 1: the plays on words or play on words, uh, that 1531 01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:46,360 Speaker 1: we're going on, we're pretty pretty pretty outrageous. I was 1532 01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:48,320 Speaker 1: walking around the streets in New York on my way 1533 01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:51,000 Speaker 1: into Fox today. I did a few Fox Hits and 1534 01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:56,160 Speaker 1: Fox Business with the exceptional and uh and brilliant Trish Reagan. 1535 01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:59,559 Speaker 1: And I was on the street and I saw people 1536 01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:01,559 Speaker 1: and they're all standing and looking, and I could tell 1537 01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:05,599 Speaker 1: there was this sense of you know, man, we should 1538 01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:07,800 Speaker 1: be this should be so awesome right like there was 1539 01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,560 Speaker 1: this It reminded me of when people came out of 1540 01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:15,160 Speaker 1: Avatar in three D and they were like me, it 1541 01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:18,360 Speaker 1: wasn't really as great as everybody said it was. Now 1542 01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:20,599 Speaker 1: there was some cloud cover here in New York City, 1543 01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:26,040 Speaker 1: and so perhaps the eclipse wasn't quite as fantastic as 1544 01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:30,519 Speaker 1: as everybody thought it would be. But I don't know. I'm, 1545 01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:33,639 Speaker 1: first of all, I am very protective of my vision. 1546 01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:36,559 Speaker 1: For those of you who are curious, I actually don't 1547 01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:40,160 Speaker 1: even do radio with headphones on. I do radio with 1548 01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:44,200 Speaker 1: an earpiece just in my right ear because it's very 1549 01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:48,559 Speaker 1: easy to overtime do damage to your hearing in this business, 1550 01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:52,400 Speaker 1: and I got used to a right earpiece for TV 1551 01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:55,240 Speaker 1: purposes and I just decided to stay with it. So 1552 01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:58,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people have they have earphones in so 1553 01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:01,479 Speaker 1: they can hear themselves that they have our headphones. Rather 1554 01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:04,799 Speaker 1: they can hear themselves back. And there's even some very special, 1555 01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:09,680 Speaker 1: high end, expensive radio specific headphones. I just have. I 1556 01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:12,360 Speaker 1: use like the same earpiece that you use for your 1557 01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:15,840 Speaker 1: iPhone in my ear during radio, I can't hear myself back. 1558 01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:19,320 Speaker 1: I don't feel the need to. I just talk to 1559 01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:22,040 Speaker 1: you like I'm talking to friends or if I'm sitting 1560 01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:24,599 Speaker 1: around with my family. I don't listen to myself back 1561 01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:27,439 Speaker 1: the way that is done in traditional radio. Part of 1562 01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:29,240 Speaker 1: that that was also I just don't want to damage 1563 01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:32,080 Speaker 1: my hearing, and I am very protective of my site. 1564 01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:35,840 Speaker 1: And so the notion that I would look at the 1565 01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:40,280 Speaker 1: sun and in some way even even put out any 1566 01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:44,400 Speaker 1: chance of damaging my vision, even just a little bit, 1567 01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:46,800 Speaker 1: maybe if it was maybe it wouldn't even matter for 1568 01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:50,760 Speaker 1: fifty years, assuming I make it another fifty years, let's hope. 1569 01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:54,120 Speaker 1: So knock on wood. There's just no chance whatsoever that 1570 01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:59,320 Speaker 1: I would um anyway. Uh yeah, so o oh, I 1571 01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:00,840 Speaker 1: meant to tell, why else am I talking with the 1572 01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:04,280 Speaker 1: eclipse other than people who are looking up at the sun. Uh. 1573 01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:07,240 Speaker 1: There was this article. You can't make this stuff up. 1574 01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:10,720 Speaker 1: It reminds me of the movie PCU when there's this 1575 01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:15,799 Speaker 1: group walking around that is like the the militant African 1576 01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:19,840 Speaker 1: American students on campus, uh you know who who are 1577 01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:23,000 Speaker 1: are talking about oppression and you know, the the white 1578 01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:27,400 Speaker 1: white white oppression and everything, and and how yeah that 1579 01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:30,519 Speaker 1: the the guys, the more militant students on KEVI say 1580 01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:33,479 Speaker 1: that the the facts machine is white and the chalk 1581 01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:36,040 Speaker 1: is white and it's a white devil's conspiracy. It's from 1582 01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:41,160 Speaker 1: movie PCU, which I highly recommend to those of you 1583 01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:43,840 Speaker 1: who have not seen it. By the way, it's it's 1584 01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:47,920 Speaker 1: a movie that you, um, you're definitely in the current 1585 01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:50,200 Speaker 1: context of everything that's going on. I think you'd really 1586 01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:57,280 Speaker 1: appreciate how PCU is. It's it's telling the stories of 1587 01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:00,960 Speaker 1: our of our time when it comes to political correctness anyway. Um, 1588 01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:04,040 Speaker 1: but yeah, and then he goes from the militant black 1589 01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:07,080 Speaker 1: students on campus yelling that it's a white devil conspiracy. 1590 01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:10,639 Speaker 1: There's this preppy student running around with a side part 1591 01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:14,519 Speaker 1: and blue blazer on and boat shoes. So there's that. 1592 01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:18,839 Speaker 1: And then he runs into the the vegan, the militant vegans, 1593 01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:23,080 Speaker 1: and they're yelling meat tasa. So but the parody, of 1594 01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:25,000 Speaker 1: course is that there was a period in the nineties, 1595 01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:28,280 Speaker 1: and people are saying everything is racist, right, everything is racist, 1596 01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:30,840 Speaker 1: and it and it was true in the sense that 1597 01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:34,040 Speaker 1: people were pushing racism too much as a charge for 1598 01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:37,479 Speaker 1: it to even have meaning. But here's what's written in 1599 01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:41,360 Speaker 1: the Atlantic. I you cannot you cannot make this stuff up, folks. 1600 01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:45,560 Speaker 1: This is about the eclipse. And the shorthand version of 1601 01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:51,120 Speaker 1: this is the eclipse is racist quote American blackout. A 1602 01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:55,280 Speaker 1: tour of the solar eclipses path reveals a nation that 1603 01:45:55,520 --> 01:46:00,560 Speaker 1: thought to maintain a different sort of totality to totality 1604 01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:03,760 Speaker 1: is everything, say those who chase solar eclipses. When the 1605 01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:07,040 Speaker 1: Moon fully obscures the Sun and casts its shadow on Earth, 1606 01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:10,760 Speaker 1: the result is like nothing you've seen before, not even 1607 01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:16,040 Speaker 1: a partial eclipse. Uh. In this path of totality, night 1608 01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:18,320 Speaker 1: comes suddenly and one can see the shape of the 1609 01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:21,640 Speaker 1: Moon as a circle darker than black, marked by the 1610 01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:27,120 Speaker 1: faint backlight of the Sun's corona. On August one, today, 1611 01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:32,439 Speaker 1: a total total solar eclipse will arrive mid morning on 1612 01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:38,000 Speaker 1: the coast, etcetera, etcetera. It has been dubbed the Great 1613 01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:42,720 Speaker 1: American Eclipse, and along most of its path there live 1614 01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:47,160 Speaker 1: almost no black people. Um this is a quote every 1615 01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:50,479 Speaker 1: I'm quoting from the Atlantic here. Presumably this is not 1616 01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:54,600 Speaker 1: explained by the implicit bias of the solar system. It 1617 01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:59,200 Speaker 1: is a matter of population density and more specifically geographic 1618 01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:04,120 Speaker 1: very a stians uh in population density by race, for 1619 01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:09,439 Speaker 1: which the Sun and the Moon cannot be held responsible. Still, 1620 01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:12,640 Speaker 1: an eclipse chaser is always tempted to believe that the 1621 01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:16,920 Speaker 1: skies are relaying a message. At a moment of deep 1622 01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:21,400 Speaker 1: disagreement about the nation's best path forward, here comes a giant, 1623 01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:26,000 Speaker 1: round shadow, drawing a line either to cut the country 1624 01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:30,120 Speaker 1: in two or to united as one. The Great American 1625 01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:32,879 Speaker 1: Eclipse may or may not tell us anything about our future, 1626 01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:37,160 Speaker 1: but it's peculiar path could remind us of something about 1627 01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:40,920 Speaker 1: our past. What it was we meant, what it was 1628 01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:44,080 Speaker 1: we meant to be doing, and what we actually did 1629 01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:46,640 Speaker 1: along the way. Um, that's that. I'm just reading what 1630 01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:49,479 Speaker 1: it says. And if it seemed we need no reminding, 1631 01:47:49,560 --> 01:47:55,439 Speaker 1: consider this. As as the eclipse approaches, the temperatures will 1632 01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:57,679 Speaker 1: fall and birds will roost, and then suddenly the lights 1633 01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:01,839 Speaker 1: will go out. Uh. And then it goes on. Oregon, 1634 01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:05,360 Speaker 1: where this begins is almost entirely white. The ten percent 1635 01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:07,479 Speaker 1: or so of state residents who do not identify as 1636 01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:11,599 Speaker 1: white are predominantly Latino American, Indian, Alaskan, or Asian. There 1637 01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:17,240 Speaker 1: are very few black Oregonians. Uh, I mean this is 1638 01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:19,760 Speaker 1: a subheading from this. The astronomers tell us where lies 1639 01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:22,479 Speaker 1: the path of totality. The census tell us we're live, 1640 01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:25,960 Speaker 1: Where lived the people and what colors they are? I 1641 01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:28,600 Speaker 1: don't even know. I mean, I don't even know what 1642 01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:33,599 Speaker 1: to tell you. This is trying to make a point 1643 01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:36,160 Speaker 1: about racism through the eclipse. I mean, you've got to 1644 01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:41,200 Speaker 1: read this thing to really see where where it goes 1645 01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:45,040 Speaker 1: here in terms of the peace. Uh, here's let me 1646 01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:46,759 Speaker 1: just give you the finish. This is how it finishes. 1647 01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:51,480 Speaker 1: The Great American Eclipse illuminates or darkens a land still segregated, 1648 01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:54,360 Speaker 1: a land still in search of equality, a land of 1649 01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:58,400 Speaker 1: people still trying trying to dominate each other. When the 1650 01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:02,440 Speaker 1: lovely glow of a back light fades, history is relentless, 1651 01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:06,599 Speaker 1: just one damn fact after another, one damning fact after another. 1652 01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:09,680 Speaker 1: America is a nation with debts that no honest man 1653 01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:18,240 Speaker 1: can pay. Uh, you know, the eclipses. The eclipse is political. Now, 1654 01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:23,000 Speaker 1: I forget about nothing. Is sacred. Nothing is beyond politics. 1655 01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:27,200 Speaker 1: Just like in PCU in the chalk is white, the 1656 01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:29,880 Speaker 1: facts machine is white. It's a white devil's conspiracy. That's 1657 01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:31,479 Speaker 1: that's a quote from the movie. And they're trying to 1658 01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:38,960 Speaker 1: mock a very uh bizarre but somewhat real mindset that 1659 01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:45,080 Speaker 1: exists among some hardline leftists that everything is a racial conspiracy. Here, 1660 01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:47,120 Speaker 1: you've got a piece just published in The Atlantic. It's 1661 01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:50,000 Speaker 1: a really bad piece, by the way, it's just bad writing. 1662 01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:54,760 Speaker 1: It's just not a quality piece. But you see, this 1663 01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:58,080 Speaker 1: is part of what we see with writing on race. 1664 01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:02,960 Speaker 1: Any issue that touches on race has to be handled differently. Right, 1665 01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:07,080 Speaker 1: anything that is an analysis of of racism in America 1666 01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:10,759 Speaker 1: you better elevated, assuming that it talks about how racist 1667 01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:11,880 Speaker 1: we are. I mean, if you're gonna go in the 1668 01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:14,960 Speaker 1: other direction, then of course the opposite rules apply. It 1669 01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:16,680 Speaker 1: has to be censored, it has to be shut down, 1670 01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:20,920 Speaker 1: shouted down, maybe even violent protests to stop it, maybe 1671 01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:24,040 Speaker 1: even putting explosives on a statue to make a point. Right, 1672 01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:28,240 Speaker 1: that's what happens in this country now. But if you're 1673 01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:30,320 Speaker 1: writing on race and you're trying to say that the 1674 01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:36,600 Speaker 1: country is deeply racist, is beset by racism. And you 1675 01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:39,120 Speaker 1: can even go so far as to make a piece 1676 01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:42,600 Speaker 1: or to write a piece on how the eclipse is 1677 01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:46,559 Speaker 1: illuminating racism in America and there are only white people 1678 01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:51,200 Speaker 1: in the major pathway of the eclipse. Guys, it's not 1679 01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:53,840 Speaker 1: Nothing is too crazy anymore for the left right, they 1680 01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:57,200 Speaker 1: are they have gone fully delusional. Uh they have so 1681 01:50:57,439 --> 01:51:03,160 Speaker 1: disconnected from reality and and the abandonment of rationality and 1682 01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:06,400 Speaker 1: first principles that is animating much of progressive thought these 1683 01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:12,519 Speaker 1: days is evident even in a piece on the solar eclipse. Uh, 1684 01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:15,720 Speaker 1: this is it was amazing. I'm trying to who's the 1685 01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:17,800 Speaker 1: author of this? Just if you want to look it up, 1686 01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:19,680 Speaker 1: we'll put it up on buck sex and dot com. 1687 01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:24,000 Speaker 1: Alice Ristroff in The Atlantic American Blackout, a tour of 1688 01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:26,760 Speaker 1: the solar eclipses path reveals a nation that fought to 1689 01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:34,599 Speaker 1: maintain a different sort of totality. Uh. And it's it's amazing, 1690 01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, this really is. You can't make fun of it. 1691 01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:41,800 Speaker 1: It's beyond it is beyond parody. It is a completely 1692 01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:48,760 Speaker 1: uh nonsensical analysis of astronomy really and and and of 1693 01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:53,880 Speaker 1: the planets and astrophysics, and uh it is it is 1694 01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:57,200 Speaker 1: really amazing. Now it is considered to be on the 1695 01:51:57,280 --> 01:51:59,960 Speaker 1: cutting edge to try to use a solar eclipse to 1696 01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:04,040 Speaker 1: make political points about race in America. That it's just nonsense. 1697 01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:07,560 Speaker 1: It really reminds me of the parody articles that have 1698 01:52:07,640 --> 01:52:11,519 Speaker 1: gotten published recently, the one in particular, UH that was 1699 01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:15,760 Speaker 1: called that parody article, the penis as Social construct that 1700 01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:18,560 Speaker 1: was published in a peer of view journal. This is 1701 01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:22,680 Speaker 1: almost as farcical as that, and that was intended to 1702 01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:25,840 Speaker 1: be farcical. Um. I want to just close with some 1703 01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:29,560 Speaker 1: nice thoughts about uh seeing some old friends over the 1704 01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:33,120 Speaker 1: weekend and and what what is necessary for us all 1705 01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:36,320 Speaker 1: these days we've just taken a moment, taking a breather 1706 01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:39,240 Speaker 1: and not just focusing on what is political and what 1707 01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:45,080 Speaker 1: is uh contested right now in our debates and discussions. 1708 01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:47,680 Speaker 1: So I'll just share some closing Oh. By the way, 1709 01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:50,320 Speaker 1: Bucks Exton dot Com, slash store T shirts, T shirts, 1710 01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:57,720 Speaker 1: check them out. Hats to suck Sexton back with the 1711 01:52:57,840 --> 01:53:00,560 Speaker 1: team here in the Freedom Hunt. I moved into a 1712 01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:02,639 Speaker 1: new place, as I've been telling you, and it's been 1713 01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:05,400 Speaker 1: a lot of fun, a lot of work. I haven't 1714 01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:08,840 Speaker 1: tried to set up what I think could be called 1715 01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:13,400 Speaker 1: a reasonably adult home where you have more than one room. 1716 01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:17,000 Speaker 1: Well really, ever, this is I guess. When I was 1717 01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:18,559 Speaker 1: in d C, I actually I lived in a one 1718 01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:21,200 Speaker 1: bedroom apartment, although I had or two bedroom apartment. I 1719 01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:23,880 Speaker 1: had a roommate, so I had I had a living 1720 01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:26,920 Speaker 1: room and a couch. But here in New York City, 1721 01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:30,960 Speaker 1: if you're a guy on his own, unmarried, and you 1722 01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:33,880 Speaker 1: have a one bedroom apartment, you are you are shelling 1723 01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:36,519 Speaker 1: out a lot of cash. So I've been living in 1724 01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:38,519 Speaker 1: a one room apartment for a long time. So now 1725 01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:43,000 Speaker 1: I have an actual living space area that doesn't just 1726 01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:44,320 Speaker 1: have a big bed in the middle of it. I 1727 01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:47,120 Speaker 1: have a place for a couch, and I've been setting 1728 01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:52,439 Speaker 1: up some home and decors gone with a nice theme 1729 01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:54,800 Speaker 1: for the a nice sort of almost beach theme for 1730 01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:57,400 Speaker 1: the bedroom, which I'm very pleased with. And I'm getting 1731 01:53:57,400 --> 01:54:00,400 Speaker 1: all settled. I have been doing more cooking reasly than 1732 01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:03,479 Speaker 1: ever before. I will say that Molly made me and 1733 01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:05,920 Speaker 1: if you, by the way, if you're looking for something 1734 01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:10,960 Speaker 1: to make, this was incredible. She made pulled chicken zucchini 1735 01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:13,479 Speaker 1: enchiladas for me over the weekend. I was going to 1736 01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:16,479 Speaker 1: post it up on social media on Instagram, but it 1737 01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:19,439 Speaker 1: didn't really or on Facebook dot com slash box Sexton, 1738 01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:23,560 Speaker 1: which you should be following everybody, but the visual of 1739 01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:27,000 Speaker 1: this dish didn't do a justice. It was among the 1740 01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:31,600 Speaker 1: most delicious Mexican cuisine I've ever had. Now, Molly is 1741 01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:35,960 Speaker 1: half Mexican, so she does literally have h Mexican cooking, 1742 01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:38,360 Speaker 1: as she would say, in her blood. Her mother is 1743 01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:44,680 Speaker 1: a fantastic Mexican cuisine cook and comes from a Mexican background. 1744 01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:47,560 Speaker 1: So you know, Molly made me this amazing food of 1745 01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:49,600 Speaker 1: the weekend I've been cooking and I know by the 1746 01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:54,040 Speaker 1: way the enchilana's made with zucchini, it's great. It means 1747 01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:57,240 Speaker 1: that it's really low it's it's a really low carb 1748 01:54:57,360 --> 01:55:02,280 Speaker 1: dish and you replaced the floured or corn tortilla. You 1749 01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:04,200 Speaker 1: don't even know the difference, and telling it's all about 1750 01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:06,480 Speaker 1: the sauce and the pulled chicken, and the zucchini actually 1751 01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:09,480 Speaker 1: absorbs them pretty well if you do it properly. It was. 1752 01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:11,960 Speaker 1: It was phenomenal. I couldn't compliment Molly enough on it. 1753 01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:14,720 Speaker 1: In fact, she made so much, or she made extra 1754 01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:16,360 Speaker 1: so that she could take some into work, and I 1755 01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:19,360 Speaker 1: had to apologize because I I snuck some while she 1756 01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:21,560 Speaker 1: was away. I know, I was like the kid who 1757 01:55:21,640 --> 01:55:23,520 Speaker 1: was sneaking into the cookie jar, but I had a 1758 01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:27,960 Speaker 1: little bit of her pulled chicken, zucchini Enchilada's leftovers that 1759 01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:29,840 Speaker 1: were meant for her to Daniel. I left some for her, 1760 01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:31,320 Speaker 1: but I had like a little bit of what was 1761 01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:32,760 Speaker 1: going to be taken to the office. It was so 1762 01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:35,200 Speaker 1: good sometimes to steal a little food. She knows better 1763 01:55:35,240 --> 01:55:37,040 Speaker 1: than to get in between me and a chocolate part too, 1764 01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:40,400 Speaker 1: because I need need my chocolate fix. But I've been 1765 01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:42,280 Speaker 1: cooking more, been doing a lot more of that, And 1766 01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:45,280 Speaker 1: yesterday I finally took a break to see some friends 1767 01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:47,840 Speaker 1: and those of you who have been listening to me 1768 01:55:47,960 --> 01:55:51,560 Speaker 1: for a while and been a part of my career. 1769 01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:55,840 Speaker 1: Because everybody who watches, listens, downloads, reads, and and and 1770 01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:58,560 Speaker 1: follows my work is a part of my career, and 1771 01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:01,360 Speaker 1: I have to I can't thank you all enough for that. 1772 01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:04,160 Speaker 1: I took a moment, though, yesterday to see some old friends, 1773 01:56:04,240 --> 01:56:07,320 Speaker 1: friends that some of you will no doubt recall. I 1774 01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:11,000 Speaker 1: had brunch, which is a thing here that everybody does 1775 01:56:11,000 --> 01:56:13,120 Speaker 1: pretty much New York City everybody brunches, so I know 1776 01:56:13,200 --> 01:56:14,680 Speaker 1: in some parts of the country they're like, isn't that 1777 01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:18,040 Speaker 1: just lunch? But trying to sound fancy. We did brunch 1778 01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:23,120 Speaker 1: and I saw my old friends Brandon Webb and Tara 1779 01:56:23,240 --> 01:56:25,880 Speaker 1: set Mayor. Tara is now an ABC. Well, let me 1780 01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:28,720 Speaker 1: start with Brandon. Brandon, of course is a guest on 1781 01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:30,440 Speaker 1: the show. I think we had him even last week. 1782 01:56:30,760 --> 01:56:33,480 Speaker 1: Good buddy of mine, former Navy seal sniper. Great to 1783 01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:35,680 Speaker 1: catch up with him and we were talking about how 1784 01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:39,400 Speaker 1: we met on this set of Real News at the 1785 01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:42,960 Speaker 1: Blaze years ago. That's and since then we've become very 1786 01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:46,640 Speaker 1: good friends. Brandon and I hang out regularly. We hang 1787 01:56:46,680 --> 01:56:48,840 Speaker 1: out on the weekends. He's got an awesome new dog 1788 01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:51,760 Speaker 1: named Ace. It's an Australian Shepherd. So he's got a 1789 01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:53,560 Speaker 1: puppy too. I mean, you know, so the guy's got 1790 01:56:53,680 --> 01:56:55,920 Speaker 1: he's got great stories and a puppy. As you can imagine, 1791 01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:59,400 Speaker 1: the ladies love him. Um. And then Tara set Mayor, 1792 01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:02,320 Speaker 1: who was my old buddy at the Real News table 1793 01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:05,480 Speaker 1: there with me, a staunch conservative. She's now over at 1794 01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:11,320 Speaker 1: ABC doing political analysis for them and also sometimes appears 1795 01:57:11,320 --> 01:57:14,040 Speaker 1: on CNN. And it was just great to catch up 1796 01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:15,760 Speaker 1: with Tara and hang out with her a bit. And 1797 01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:17,960 Speaker 1: you know, for those of you who are Tara fans 1798 01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:19,920 Speaker 1: from the Real News Tara set mayor fans from the 1799 01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:23,920 Speaker 1: Real News days, she's doing great. She's she's happy, career 1800 01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:27,080 Speaker 1: is going well, and she's just doing her thing, and 1801 01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:29,160 Speaker 1: she's she's a big talent. I think we're gonna see 1802 01:57:30,200 --> 01:57:32,840 Speaker 1: a very she has. She's got a bright and and 1803 01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:36,800 Speaker 1: I think powerful future in the media business, as does Brandon. 1804 01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:40,320 Speaker 1: Brandon's really more on the entrepreneur side than anything else. 1805 01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:43,920 Speaker 1: He's actually building media businesses. But more on that perhaps later. 1806 01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:45,440 Speaker 1: But it was just great to catch up with those friends. 1807 01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:47,720 Speaker 1: And I appreciated that those of you who saw some 1808 01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:49,880 Speaker 1: of the photos I posted realized that these are all 1809 01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:52,280 Speaker 1: from the Blaze days. These are some of my they've 1810 01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:56,440 Speaker 1: become some of my close friends offset as well. Thank you, 1811 01:57:56,480 --> 01:57:59,800 Speaker 1: as always team for joining. I'm glad that despite the eclipse, 1812 01:57:59,880 --> 01:58:02,040 Speaker 1: the world has not ended, and you know that the 1813 01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:04,440 Speaker 1: cs have not boiled over, so that's good news. I'm 1814 01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:06,640 Speaker 1: gonna have a lot to talk about tomorrow, the President's 1815 01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:09,600 Speaker 1: speech on Afghanistan. Going to give you a breakdown of 1816 01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:12,520 Speaker 1: what I think comes what what what I think is 1817 01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:15,960 Speaker 1: coming out of that, plus the big Phoenix political rally 1818 01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:19,120 Speaker 1: he's planning, things could get really out of hand there. 1819 01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:21,400 Speaker 1: We'll see. Um, We've got that and a lot more 1820 01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:24,160 Speaker 1: coming up tomorrow, so be sure to download the podcast, 1821 01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:27,440 Speaker 1: share it with friends. Buck Sexon with America now on iTunes. 1822 01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:30,640 Speaker 1: Please subscribe, See you tomorrow. Shields Hot