WEBVTT - Culinary Commodities

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<v Speaker 1>Today, we're going to discuss two unique but ubiquitous fruits

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<v Speaker 1>that have been part of staple diets around the world

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<v Speaker 1>for a very long time. We're first going to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>what might be considered the world's only seafaring fruit, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to travel to India to learn about its

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<v Speaker 1>nomadic origins and what it's growing global popularity means for

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<v Speaker 1>local farmers in Southeast Asia. Next stop, we meet wet

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<v Speaker 1>Stone co founder Melissa she in Spain, where she is

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<v Speaker 1>reintroduced to another familiar fruit that is being harvested, green

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<v Speaker 1>and unripe, and it is used to produce one of

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<v Speaker 1>the world's most ancient natural cooking oils. As we follow

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<v Speaker 1>these familiar culinary commodities on their journey from their place

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<v Speaker 1>of origin to our kitchens and plates, we learned about

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<v Speaker 1>honoring the origins and how markets, supply, and demand are

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<v Speaker 1>shaping the futures of these crops today. On point of origin,

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<v Speaker 1>join us as we dive deep into the world of

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<v Speaker 1>culinary commodities. It's the Fruit Edition, and we're exploring some

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<v Speaker 1>of the curious conundrums that they face today. But they

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<v Speaker 1>can stay alive. The seeds stays alive while it floats,

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<v Speaker 1>so it floats on the seas and it sprouts on

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<v Speaker 1>whatever coasted lands, on tropical coasted lands on In southeastern India,

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<v Speaker 1>organic farmer and permaculturalist Symritate Molly started noticing that farmers

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<v Speaker 1>in her area, we're beginning to experiment with a new

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<v Speaker 1>type of crop which historically wasn't grown in the area

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<v Speaker 1>because it was at too high of an altitude. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in the mountain in the Palony Hills of South India,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's quite high and I run out coop with

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<v Speaker 1>the farmers, with the local farmers in my village and

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<v Speaker 1>consim rates farming community. The effects of climate change over

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<v Speaker 1>the past few years have been immediate and apparent. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>the mountains have been getting warmer and warmer, and so

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<v Speaker 1>every year the coconut kind of climbs higher and higher,

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<v Speaker 1>so the coconut can grow at a higher altitude. And

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<v Speaker 1>the local farmers in my area were noticing this. And

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<v Speaker 1>where it's colder now it's getting warmer, so it's easier

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<v Speaker 1>for a coconut to grow there. Basically, coconuts are really

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<v Speaker 1>hardy plants and they'll grow anywhere they have a temperature

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<v Speaker 1>of higher than twenty two degrees celsius. So the farmers

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<v Speaker 1>in my area were starting to experiment growing coconuts in

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<v Speaker 1>our area, trying to predict the future and the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that it's going to get warmer. So that's what made

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<v Speaker 1>me interested in researching where coconuts were from and the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of conditions they need to grow. So the origins

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<v Speaker 1>of coconut are kind of murky, and there wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>any test that was done. It couldn't pinpoint any one origin.

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<v Speaker 1>There were two strains that were found. One was from

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<v Speaker 1>the Indian Ocean and the other was on the Pacific Ocean,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was really divided across two oceans, which connects

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<v Speaker 1>with the fact that the coconut is a seafaring fruit.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's one of the only ones in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So the coconut has been traveling on the oceans around

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<v Speaker 1>the world for millennia before humans have been traveling. Definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>and contrary to popular belief, it's we don't have colonizers

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<v Speaker 1>to thank for the coconuts. But yeah, so I like

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<v Speaker 1>to call it a seafood. That's interesting. So when you

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<v Speaker 1>say that it's a seafaring fruit, you mean that coconuts

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<v Speaker 1>without the help of humans, can propagate on the water.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right, Yeah, they have been propagating on on water.

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<v Speaker 1>They can. They can stay alive. The seeds stays alive

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<v Speaker 1>while it floats. It also floats, so it floats on

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<v Speaker 1>the seas and it sprouts on whatever coasted lands on

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<v Speaker 1>tropical coasted lands on Coconuts are so unique because of

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<v Speaker 1>their seafaring nature. They can be found throughout the global South,

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<v Speaker 1>having self propagated along shorelines over thousands of years, likely

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<v Speaker 1>long before humans were even around. Today, they firmly planted

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<v Speaker 1>into local and regional cuisines in South Asia, making coconuts

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<v Speaker 1>foundational and a stable not only in diets as a

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<v Speaker 1>way of life in coastal India, the Philippines and Indonesia

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<v Speaker 1>the top producers of coconut in the world. The coconut

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<v Speaker 1>plant provides more than just meat, milk, and oils for

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<v Speaker 1>food and sustenance. So it's typically an island house would

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<v Speaker 1>have around for coconut trees and you can build your

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<v Speaker 1>house and make your clothes and have fuel, water, food, alcohol.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything started for you with those trees. So it's known

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<v Speaker 1>as the tree of life, and it's very easy to

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<v Speaker 1>have a self sustainable lifestyle with these four coconuts, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's worshiped. Basically, in the India, we use a coconut

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<v Speaker 1>in all our rituals. The coconut is cracked before you

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<v Speaker 1>start anything new, or get married or any of the

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<v Speaker 1>like life's big moments. So it's a symbol of fertility,

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<v Speaker 1>the womb. But it's also a symbol of your ego

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<v Speaker 1>as all as your head. So it's like your sacrificing

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<v Speaker 1>your ego. Every time you break a coconut, it signifies

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<v Speaker 1>it or your your head or your ego. Basically, I

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like that image. It's a pretty intense one.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea of the coconut representing your head and then

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<v Speaker 1>being machett id open to get to the flesh. That's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the ultimate sacrifice. I guess, yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is so basically they used to sacrifice. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you want to say this day of but

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<v Speaker 1>they used to sacrifice people and animals in the old days.

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<v Speaker 1>But instead of instead of sacrificing them, they break a coconut.

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<v Speaker 1>So the blood and the water coming out the fresh coconut,

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<v Speaker 1>so it looks like the head. Wow, I will never

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<v Speaker 1>eat another coconut without thinking about that. Um, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty amazing. So I want to ask you again or

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<v Speaker 1>go back to you know, the role of the coconuts.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, not really the role, but like the sudden

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<v Speaker 1>demand over the last five years. As a consumer, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems to me, if I had to guess, I would

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<v Speaker 1>say that the trend of the health conscious types who

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<v Speaker 1>are drinking coconut water on a daily basis, sometimes around

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<v Speaker 1>the clock, is coconut water. What we have to blame

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<v Speaker 1>for this sudden spike in demand? Yeah, I think so.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I was doing some research. I found that

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<v Speaker 1>the top players in the globle coconut water market is Vita, Coco,

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<v Speaker 1>Google Cola, and PepsiCo. So I mean they have huge

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<v Speaker 1>marketing apartments and budgets, so they're shifting to something I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that's more health conscious, but the whole system is

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<v Speaker 1>still the same rate, So I don't know how healthy

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<v Speaker 1>that actually is. We may have all noticed and prescribed

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<v Speaker 1>to the boom and foods, oils and drinks, not to

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<v Speaker 1>mention supplements that are derived from the coconut beyond just

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<v Speaker 1>coconut water. Large corporate, multinational food producers are scrambling to

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<v Speaker 1>keep pace with the rapidly growing demand and global taste

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<v Speaker 1>for all things coconut. The problem has become because prices

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<v Speaker 1>around the world have increased so much because of its

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<v Speaker 1>it's like trendy now, so people wanna make money off it.

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<v Speaker 1>Coconut is a very sensitive tree, and because of the

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<v Speaker 1>mono cropping, and because of the fact that they're probably

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<v Speaker 1>putting fertilizers and petrochemicals to help the coconut grow, the

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<v Speaker 1>land of the soil is getting depleted and the productivity

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<v Speaker 1>of the tree has become almost less than it was

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years ago. So the major problem around the world

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<v Speaker 1>is that the countries and plantations that have been supplying

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<v Speaker 1>coconut around the world are now producing less and less

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<v Speaker 1>of it, which is why the price of coconut oil

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<v Speaker 1>is rising as it is an almost in the past

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<v Speaker 1>five years wow. And so the cost of the coconut

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<v Speaker 1>has gone up as the levels of production have decreased.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're saying, Yeah, yeah, the demand is

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<v Speaker 1>way higher than the supply, which means that now those

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<v Speaker 1>four coconuts that a family has on an island, they

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<v Speaker 1>would rather sell it and get money and buy those

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<v Speaker 1>clothes and fuel from somewhere else instead of using the

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<v Speaker 1>coconut they have. I mean, I'm a bit of an extremist.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no real solution to the food supply chain around

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<v Speaker 1>the world, and I don't believe that it's wrong for

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<v Speaker 1>Americans or anyone in the global not to use coconut,

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<v Speaker 1>But I just think that just going local is just

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<v Speaker 1>the easiest solution. So of course, now coconuts are not

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<v Speaker 1>seafaring anymore. They don't propagate themselves, so they're not flowing

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<v Speaker 1>on the sea and landing up on coursts and planting themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're being planted in huge monocrops, plantations in the

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<v Speaker 1>areas where they are traditionally grown. So it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>getting to the place where palm oil is. We're moving

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<v Speaker 1>a large rainforests are natural um landscape. It's to grow

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<v Speaker 1>coconut because of how how much money they get you

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<v Speaker 1>through exports. It's a twofold thing. So because of global warming,

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<v Speaker 1>we can grow more coconuts and higher places, and not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily just by the coast, but also where they've already

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<v Speaker 1>traditionally been growing. They aren't yielding as much coconut as

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<v Speaker 1>they used to. Because of the way that they're being grown.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back with wet Stone co founder Melissa

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<v Speaker 1>she him Hice. Even mal is my business partner and

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<v Speaker 1>the co founder of wet Stone. She's in and Lucia,

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<v Speaker 1>Spain to introduce us to the farmers and the community

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<v Speaker 1>that have been growing the fruit bearing trees from our

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<v Speaker 1>next story for many generations. How are these growers balancing

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<v Speaker 1>innovating while also preserving tradition and honoring origin, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>an industry that many think of it's just a commodity.

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<v Speaker 1>Here in the sea of trees. We're standing on soil

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<v Speaker 1>that is a deep brick red. It's crumbly clay like

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<v Speaker 1>infused with the color of rust. And when you look up,

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<v Speaker 1>all that meets I is this continuous canopy of leaves

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<v Speaker 1>that are crowning these noveley branches and tree trunks of

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<v Speaker 1>the olive tree. You don't have to look too closely

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<v Speaker 1>to see that each canopy is dotted with the unripe

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<v Speaker 1>greens and darker blacks of maturing fruit. And just to

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<v Speaker 1>give you an example, like one tree, one olive tree

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<v Speaker 1>is maybe a case of of of olive oil. Only

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<v Speaker 1>one tree. It's just one case bottles. That's it nine ms.

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<v Speaker 1>So it takes a lot of trees to make a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of olive oil. One lot is usually around on

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<v Speaker 1>twenty tho liters. Okay, so you need to be moving

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<v Speaker 1>quickly unloading. They're ali's depending on the quality of the

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<v Speaker 1>olive or the variety of the olive. Today, the morning

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<v Speaker 1>sky is calm, bright and luminous, while at the same

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<v Speaker 1>time being completely blanketed by airy and pillowy clouds. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a skyhike cover that is so vast and high up

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<v Speaker 1>in the atmosphere that makes the sprawling landscape we're standing

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<v Speaker 1>in feel all at once both smaller and a little

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<v Speaker 1>more comprehensible, but also grander and of an unimaginable scale.

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<v Speaker 1>We're here amongst the olive groves of Hlio is STEPA

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<v Speaker 1>with Kyle Davis, an expert manager and an expert in

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<v Speaker 1>regional olive oil production. We're harvesting olives here in Andalusia,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're meeting one of the five thousand farmers that

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle works with. It's almost mid day, but it still

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<v Speaker 1>feels like dawn is breaking and the day is not

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<v Speaker 1>quite fully emotion But then stillness is abruptly broken by

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<v Speaker 1>the sounds of an early harvest in full swing. So

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<v Speaker 1>they'll grab the tree with the tractor on the with

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of a fork on the bottom, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they open up this batman upside down umbrella underneath the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>They shake the tree with that fork. All of the

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<v Speaker 1>olives fall into the umbrella and go right into a hopper.

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<v Speaker 1>Once the oppera is full, the hopper dumps it into

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<v Speaker 1>a trailer. Once the trailer full, the trailer goes to

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<v Speaker 1>the mill. One farmer brings a trailer to the mill.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to first check in with a computer screen

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<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna scan his ID badge. His ID badge

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<v Speaker 1>is going to pull up a plot of his land,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna indicate on the computer exactly where he

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<v Speaker 1>just harvested. Traceability starting to be not just the farmer,

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<v Speaker 1>but the actual plot of land that he just harvested from.

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<v Speaker 1>The day drop the alive the olives like we saw

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<v Speaker 1>being collector's gonna happital piece of sticks. This ability to

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<v Speaker 1>trace fruit back to the original plot of land it

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<v Speaker 1>was harvested from is one of the factors that makes

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<v Speaker 1>old a step as so unique. The farmers details on

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<v Speaker 1>its harvest of the day are one of numerable inputs

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<v Speaker 1>and bits of data that Old As Stepa's oils mills

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<v Speaker 1>carefully monitor each step of the process, from when an

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<v Speaker 1>olive arrives at the mill to the process of cold

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<v Speaker 1>extraction of oil, to testing for different physical and chemical properties,

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<v Speaker 1>storage and bottling, makes the process here perhaps one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most advanced in the world. The olive groves at

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<v Speaker 1>ol Stepa, like the one being harvested here today, have

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<v Speaker 1>an ancient history dating back more than two millennia, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is in more recent history. Over the last half century,

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<v Speaker 1>the agriculture and the region has been revolutionized and technologized,

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<v Speaker 1>allowing producers like ol Stepa to access the most up

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<v Speaker 1>to date oil extraction machinery. At the heart of ole

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<v Speaker 1>As Stepa's business lies an approach to all of farming

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<v Speaker 1>that is very different from the models we see around

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<v Speaker 1>the world. The cooperative model in Spain is pretty unique.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that there's any other country in the

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<v Speaker 1>world that's really has as many cooperatives as Spain and

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<v Speaker 1>really has such a country that's so open to cooperation,

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<v Speaker 1>not just on like an agricultural level, but on a

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<v Speaker 1>on a citizen level. I mean there's I mean people

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<v Speaker 1>here in Spain, I would say, you know, two thirds

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<v Speaker 1>of the population at one time or another has been

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<v Speaker 1>a volunteer or collaborates with NGO. Spain is a very

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<v Speaker 1>is a society that likes to cooperate and and assets.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a lot of cooperatives and that's very different

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<v Speaker 1>than countries like Italy, for example, in terms of olive oil,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no there's no there's no real olive oil

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<v Speaker 1>cooperatives in Italy. There's a lot of small farmers or

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<v Speaker 1>medium sized farmers that own their own small mill. But

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<v Speaker 1>the cool thing about having an olive oil cooperative is

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<v Speaker 1>is that you join the efforts of a large amount

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<v Speaker 1>of people who individually wouldn't be able to afford an

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<v Speaker 1>olive mail and you all milt together and you're all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of in the same boat, and you all kind

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<v Speaker 1>of follow the same philosophy. And the cool thing with

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<v Speaker 1>ely a stepans like our flow has been quality driven,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not necessarily the cooperative model. Across Spain. In

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<v Speaker 1>terms of olive oil, we have kind of everything. We

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<v Speaker 1>have small family farmers that might own only you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe fifteen or twenty actors, and then we have larger

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<v Speaker 1>farmers who have been we have inherited land over various

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<v Speaker 1>generations and in our farming actors, so we have kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have everything in between. But they're all in the

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<v Speaker 1>same boat, you know, and they're all fighting for excellence. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So we pay our farmers much more money for the

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<v Speaker 1>per kilo of olive than any other cooperative in Spain,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's undisputable. As Kyle explains, their concept is really simple.

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<v Speaker 1>Olio a step overpaced farmers for early harvest oil, so

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<v Speaker 1>that growers are incentivised to get olives off the tree

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<v Speaker 1>and into the mill as quickly as possible. And why

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<v Speaker 1>is it that more unripe and greener olives produce the

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<v Speaker 1>higher quality oil. And the most important factor, I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>there is the time of harvest. And so as the

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<v Speaker 1>olive tree produces a flower and the flower gets pollinated

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<v Speaker 1>and the olive sprouts on the branch, it starts off green, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and it it's green. And as it growing and it's green,

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<v Speaker 1>and it makes it reaches its maximum size. And as

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<v Speaker 1>it reaches its maximum size, and as it starts to

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<v Speaker 1>mature more, it turns from green to purple to black, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it falls off the tree. The maximum fat

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<v Speaker 1>content of the olive is going to be when it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost ready to fall off the tree. But the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of polyphenols, the amount of fruit that you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of that olive are going to be lower

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<v Speaker 1>than if you were to harvest it earlier. And so

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you see early harvest and earlier, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on bottles, etcetera. Harvesting early, you get less fat, you

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<v Speaker 1>get less oil out of the olive, but the quality

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot higher. So what exactly are these polyphenols

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<v Speaker 1>that Kyle is talking about. They are the micro nutrients

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<v Speaker 1>that give olive oils it's so called superpowers. Green olives especially,

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<v Speaker 1>are rich and polyphenols that we can only get through

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<v Speaker 1>certain plant based foods, and together with other dietary reducing

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<v Speaker 1>agents such as vitamin C and vitamin E, are referred

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<v Speaker 1>to as antioxidants. Higher polyphenols also increase the shelf life

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<v Speaker 1>of olive oil, but are a key factor in contributing

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<v Speaker 1>to the most defining and desired flavor factor of high

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<v Speaker 1>quality olive oil. Bitterness, by the way, the one and

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<v Speaker 1>only basic flavor in oil is bitterness. The rest is

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<v Speaker 1>have to taste like all the aromas and tag tile sensations,

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<v Speaker 1>like the stringency and dry our mouth and spiciness that

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<v Speaker 1>we can feel anywhere in the mouth or maybe in

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<v Speaker 1>the throat. Even this is Alfonso Fernandez something in a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of joke. Away, I can say that I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>priest of olive oil, so I I make believers. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to tell too, for the people to know what

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<v Speaker 1>is the truth about olive oil and everything that they

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<v Speaker 1>can learn and enjoy and how to use and how

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<v Speaker 1>good is for the health everything, because I hate national

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<v Speaker 1>listm on on olive oil, even if I'm lucky enough

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<v Speaker 1>to be they're talking about olive oil or from a

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<v Speaker 1>spin all over the world. But I mean many of

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<v Speaker 1>the love trees that we have, they have been with

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<v Speaker 1>us longer than many borders that we have to We

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<v Speaker 1>have folive trees with more than two thousand, three thousand

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<v Speaker 1>years old. Alfonso has devoted himself to sharing knowledge and

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of olive oil, it's history and its cultural heritage

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<v Speaker 1>here in Spain and beyond the borders that define his country.

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<v Speaker 1>He's what's called an oleologist, the name for an olive

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<v Speaker 1>oil tasting expert. Importantly, Alfonso emphasizes that what makes olive

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<v Speaker 1>oil really unique is not just that it's an ancient product,

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<v Speaker 1>but that it's a completely all natural product. After all,

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<v Speaker 1>Spanish aciet for oil is derived from Arabic azayet or

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<v Speaker 1>olive juice. It's unlike many of our cooking oils today

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<v Speaker 1>that go through different refining processes. But the main thing

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<v Speaker 1>that nothing that everybody will understand quite easily. Extraorginally oil

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<v Speaker 1>is real food. So he's the fatty juice of a fruit.

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<v Speaker 1>So all the extracted by mechanical means, so the end

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a juice, but releasing the water. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it has natural polyphonos that is a natural antioxidant. The

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<v Speaker 1>people that they don't like the bitterness, the bitterness is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best antioxidants that we have. And these

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<v Speaker 1>are the kind of things that the oly world will

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<v Speaker 1>bring to us that not many other facts that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to give us. His family has been farming in

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<v Speaker 1>the northern region of Andalusia for generations. As you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm part of olive wall farmers family. My brothers

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<v Speaker 1>are still around the family farming with olive trees. My

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<v Speaker 1>uncle's my grandpa. He got retired with seventy two years

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<v Speaker 1>old from the farming. So I've being devoted to this

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<v Speaker 1>for a long long time since fift generations far Us

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<v Speaker 1>I know and for me, olive all is a big,

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<v Speaker 1>big passion. We have to we have to give them

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<v Speaker 1>much more than we usually give because some people they

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<v Speaker 1>consider this a commodity. And I think that they've been

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<v Speaker 1>with us for so long time that we need to

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<v Speaker 1>give respect. That is what they've given to us. The

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<v Speaker 1>other world. Yes, it's in I. I come from my

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<v Speaker 1>small village that is called Montea's almost in the center

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<v Speaker 1>of Andalusia geographical center, and Aluthia is like if you're

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<v Speaker 1>bend over Portugal, but to cross over Spain. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>the largest production area in the world. When I say

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<v Speaker 1>the largest, is the only my region or Spain, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is the largest. The olive crops, the

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<v Speaker 1>olive trees planted in Spain is the largest artificial olive

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<v Speaker 1>grove olive forest in the world. That's my thought. Alfonso's

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<v Speaker 1>family farm is located in Cordoba, the province of Andalusia,

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<v Speaker 1>which along with neighboring province Jayenne, produces thirty of the

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<v Speaker 1>entire world's production. That's a lot of olive trees. And

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<v Speaker 1>Alusia is the most populous area in Spain and has

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<v Speaker 1>a temperate climate with hot, dry summers and mild winters

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<v Speaker 1>that has made it an agricultural haven for thousands of years.

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<v Speaker 1>No one knows exactly where the olive tree originated, but

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<v Speaker 1>has been naturalized to the Mediterranean basin, including here in

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Lucia and across Spain, flourishing on uncultivated lands for millennia.

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<v Speaker 1>Farmers over generations have bred and propagated plants for culinary uses,

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<v Speaker 1>developing cultivars that flourish in their local to war, which

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<v Speaker 1>has led to the thousands of different varietals and the

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<v Speaker 1>world see today. In Spain alone, there are actually hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of types of olives. We have two farms. One is

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<v Speaker 1>in here in Montalvande, Corlova, and the other one is

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<v Speaker 1>very close to Cordova, to Cordova village. It is not

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<v Speaker 1>a big surface. In total is about sixty actors more

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<v Speaker 1>or less. And yes, and we treated with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of respect with pequala and Arbkina varieties, and pequala has

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<v Speaker 1>been with us for centuries here and pequal is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the varieties. We have been explained in Spain more

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<v Speaker 1>than more than three hundred varieties all over the world

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<v Speaker 1>more than one thousand, and each variety is like a

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<v Speaker 1>different flavor profile and the friend behavior. It's like we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about wine, like different types of grapes. The flavors

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<v Speaker 1>and characteristics of each olive as well as its appearance

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<v Speaker 1>is completely unique. Alfonso walks us through how to taste

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<v Speaker 1>olive oil and how you might process the flavors. Unlike wine,

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<v Speaker 1>extra virgin olive oil is the only food product that

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<v Speaker 1>has to undergo a tasting test, highly systemic and tightly

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<v Speaker 1>controlled panel in order to be classified or named as

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<v Speaker 1>extra virgin olive oil, which is part of what Alfonso does.

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<v Speaker 1>Something that's important to mention about Alfonso is that he's

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<v Speaker 1>not just an oleologist, He's also a wine teaster. In Spain.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to tell you that I'm not only a

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<v Speaker 1>olive oid taster, I am also wine taster. Um. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in a panel test of three determinations of origin here

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<v Speaker 1>in Spain. I have a w c T three level

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<v Speaker 1>three cores already passed, and so I know what is

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<v Speaker 1>to taste wine and then now what is to is

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<v Speaker 1>the olive oil. And it's not better or worst. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you have less steps on tasting olive oil, but

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<v Speaker 1>you need to know how to taste the olive oil.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to make it very simple and and

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<v Speaker 1>you can. You can think about tasting olive oil like

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<v Speaker 1>dancing the bowls. You know that abowts is one to three, one,

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<v Speaker 1>two threes every every time every time they sends steps,

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<v Speaker 1>So tasting olivel is basically the same. So first step

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<v Speaker 1>is the intensity of roma. We call that fruitness can

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<v Speaker 1>be robust, medium or low. Then we have the second

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<v Speaker 1>one that is what type of roma we are getting

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<v Speaker 1>out of that olivel. And that is the main thing

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 1>because it has to remind us always too alive things

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>on the nature. So an extrovergin only oil has to

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<v Speaker 1>remind us always to something that is alive and fresh.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's musty, if it's fermented, if it's run seed,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's it's not going to be a good property

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<v Speaker 1>for the extra regin level. And then the third step

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<v Speaker 1>is when you put in your mouth, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>quite relevant because they have to taste for human is

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<v Speaker 1>quite quite important. Something really important is that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to salibrate properly in the mouth. When we

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 1>taste olible, we just take a little zip, not that

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 1>much so that one we salibrate, we motion it. We

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<v Speaker 1>make a kind of like when you're tasting wine, you

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<v Speaker 1>inhale summer. In the olive oil, we do the same

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<v Speaker 1>but a little bit more sharply, let's say a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more aggressive. But if you're not used to do that,

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>we make a kind of noise. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>the people will be able to recognize it on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's going to be something like that. Can I

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<v Speaker 1>do it? Yes, it's a kind of zip's it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you in here somewhere. And if you don't know how

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>to do that, because the problem of that is that

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>you have to cut quite aggressively. It just tumble it

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<v Speaker 1>down with your tongue and keep the olivel in your

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<v Speaker 1>mouth about thirty seconds or forty five seconds and enjoyed,

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it, and then you'll solow it up. And you

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 1>know what happens if you solow up too quickly, that

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>is going to have much more spiciness than what it

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 1>really has. And people is quite sensitive to a spineness

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<v Speaker 1>along with the flavor ideas of grain and of nature

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 1>and life and of spiciness. One flavor profile that we

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<v Speaker 1>come back to you is a taste of bitterness. This

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 1>is an olive oil flavor that some might find unfamiliar,

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 1>perhaps stark, but for olive oil, it's actually a defining characteristic.

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<v Speaker 1>This bitterness is an indication of a high level of polyphenols,

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 1>specifically flavoroid polyphenols that give us this taste. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the absence of bitterness in olive oil is what defines

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>it to be a sweet olive oil. Yes, it is

0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>like in wine. They have the they have the Channin's

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<v Speaker 1>is exactly the same one that we have in the

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 1>olivel that is making that bitterness, and the bitterness comes

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>from the variety. Not every oil has bitterness. When there's

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<v Speaker 1>no bitterness on the olivel, we call it, we name

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<v Speaker 1>it as a sweet olive oild. That for the people

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 1>that is not used to that bitterness and they don't

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 1>know how to play with that on on the kitchen,

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>they can use a variety that we call sweet so

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 1>they don't have that kind of bitterness that they don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>And they don't like because it's not because they don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't like because they don't expect it from the fact.

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<v Speaker 1>While I have a nice story because my my grandpa

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<v Speaker 1>he used to name from i'm inni montal one. He

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<v Speaker 1>used to name the type of olive oils extraorgin oi

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<v Speaker 1>oils like two ones. It's like we have white wine

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<v Speaker 1>and red wine. He used to name it like white

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<v Speaker 1>oil and black oil. The main two varieties in my

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<v Speaker 1>area are ochilaka that means wide leaf and pequal. Piqual

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<v Speaker 1>comes from the peak at the ends shape of the olive.

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<v Speaker 1>And he used to name the biguel like black olive

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<v Speaker 1>olive oil and the one from ahelanka the white olive wild.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's because the piqua was deepest and more robust

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<v Speaker 1>extorginally oil, and the ahrilanka is more has less bitterness

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<v Speaker 1>and less stringency, let's say. And it's more aromatic, or

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<v Speaker 1>usually it's more aromatic than pequal. Now with the state

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<v Speaker 1>of the art technology that we have, we can get

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<v Speaker 1>everything out of our knowlive to give plenty of a

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<v Speaker 1>Roman flavor. So the pequal is like rubbust high intensity aroma.

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<v Speaker 1>Tomato leaves is a little bit of green grass, olive

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<v Speaker 1>olive leaves are romans and it's absolutely wonderful. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think about cooking without piqua at all. And

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<v Speaker 1>there are alan see okay, I would like to show

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<v Speaker 1>you a very good example to illustrate what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to see. The Olioteca is there is the

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<v Speaker 1>name that we have given to this special place. Is

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<v Speaker 1>something unique in the world. We have a justing in

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the building, a very big collection. It's

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<v Speaker 1>something unique and we have more than one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty varieties comporting countries. Very is already black. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>standing in the world's only library for olive trees. The

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<v Speaker 1>Oleo Teca, founded to preserve and study the bio diversity

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<v Speaker 1>within the olive family. Honest Sanchez is an educator and

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator at the Juana Amone Gillon Foundation, which focuses on

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<v Speaker 1>breaking the rural sector and the olive farming in Spain

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<v Speaker 1>closer to the public. Since late eighties, while the region's

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<v Speaker 1>cultivation of olive trees intensified, leading to common mass production

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>practices like mono cropping that have eliminated some of the

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<v Speaker 1>diversity of the olives being farmed. The Foundation has been

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<v Speaker 1>growing the varietals and its oleo teca. Many of these

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<v Speaker 1>trees here are more than thirty years old, while some

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<v Speaker 1>of the newer transplants are just two or three years

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<v Speaker 1>old and incredibly already bearing fruit for study. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a garden, okay. They We produce olive oil with each

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<v Speaker 1>variety every year from like some for example, we have

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<v Speaker 1>brought varieties from Israel or maybe Go Mexico, Albania, Syria

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<v Speaker 1>or Italy. So we study each variety. How is the niman,

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<v Speaker 1>how is is the best way to produce each olive

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<v Speaker 1>oil um, how it grows in our in our land,

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<v Speaker 1>dying in our property, and how is the evolution To

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<v Speaker 1>study in bio diversity seeks to understand not only the

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<v Speaker 1>different traits and benefits unique to each type of olive,

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<v Speaker 1>how local t is expressed, and how different olives vary

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<v Speaker 1>when grown in different regions of the world. The Foundation

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<v Speaker 1>partners with local universities and research groups understand traits such

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<v Speaker 1>as physiochemical properties and their correlation to disease prevention, and

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<v Speaker 1>physical properties of the plant like heartiness or resistance to disease.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll come back to the importance this work later, but

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<v Speaker 1>for now, let's wander through the growth on it to

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<v Speaker 1>meet some of the unique varieties from the olives being

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<v Speaker 1>cataloged and preserved here. Although all of these trees have

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<v Speaker 1>similar structural characteristics, a beautiful variety of colors, shapes, textures,

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<v Speaker 1>and sizes of fruit showcase the level of diversity possible

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<v Speaker 1>even within a closely related group of species. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>many characteristics that seem to be different. Some fruit or

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<v Speaker 1>small and round couple of shapes, while others, like the

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<v Speaker 1>Sartha espana, a variety a typical to Spain is wrinkled

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<v Speaker 1>and almost unidentifiable as an olive our other varieties. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a god it's a typical variety from a

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<v Speaker 1>Spain is a very big one. But you can think,

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<v Speaker 1>or you may think that the quality is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be better because it's bigger, that the fruit is bigger,

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<v Speaker 1>or it's going to be to produce a out more

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<v Speaker 1>quantity because it's bigger down for example are beginna. But

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<v Speaker 1>it isn't necessary to be like this, because you can

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<v Speaker 1>have a very high quality oil from the variety Abkina,

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<v Speaker 1>and the goal isn't used to produce oils just for

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<v Speaker 1>for it. The Godals Sivianna is a beloved Spanish cultivar

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<v Speaker 1>and the biggest variety of olive by a large margin.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got a huge pit that's proportionately as large as

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<v Speaker 1>its pulpy flesh. Because it's low in oil content, this

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<v Speaker 1>variety is commonly seen as the teple olive and not

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<v Speaker 1>used for production. The Cora nick olive originating from the Peloponnese,

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<v Speaker 1>looks actually opposite or at all. It yields super high

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<v Speaker 1>intensity fruit that yields lots of oil. It's constant yields

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<v Speaker 1>of fruity balanced oil have also made it one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most popular olives ground an injuries. And you see

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<v Speaker 1>for example a colneg it's a variety from grief that

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<v Speaker 1>have a very good property and the flavor is a

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting a variety to study and maybe to develop

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<v Speaker 1>in the future, we don't know. And we have a

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<v Speaker 1>very particular one that it for example, as a blancot

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<v Speaker 1>is the wild olive Greek, but they are blanco. White

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<v Speaker 1>is very particular because the old when the time of

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<v Speaker 1>the harvest, thing arrives thanks to white instead to to black.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a very special one. The oil isn't so good,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a very particular old to show people that

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<v Speaker 1>hams to to affend a good man to visit as

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<v Speaker 1>to explain how important and how it divers and how

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<v Speaker 1>big is the olive oil sector. That's the reason of

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<v Speaker 1>our foundation to explain all the people, to educate people

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<v Speaker 1>and to to show them going for a walk. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the easier way to explain them how important is the

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<v Speaker 1>olivel sector for Spain and for our culture. The foundation

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<v Speaker 1>promotes olive oil culture. Okay, nowadays we are using many

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<v Speaker 1>innovative techniques, maybe in the development of new businesses in

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<v Speaker 1>in many companies or many sectors, but especially in the

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<v Speaker 1>olive oil sector. We try to balance the use of

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<v Speaker 1>the innovation with the tradition in Spain. Spain is the

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<v Speaker 1>main producer of olive oil in the world, that's a fact.

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<v Speaker 1>And the eighty percent of the olive oil that is

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<v Speaker 1>produced by Spain is from Andalusia. It's a very important

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<v Speaker 1>point because two hundred and fifty families of Andalusia depends

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<v Speaker 1>on the olive oil sector. So we have to explain

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<v Speaker 1>how important is the oil, the olive oil in our culture,

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<v Speaker 1>in our society. Okay, how important is for our history,

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<v Speaker 1>for our tradition. It's anna details. Olive oil is an

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<v Speaker 1>ancient pillar to diets here. The average Spaniard consumes one

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<v Speaker 1>leader per month, and this integral role in diet is

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<v Speaker 1>true to cultures throughout the Mediterranean basin. Along with the

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<v Speaker 1>growing global taste for olive oil and the pressure to

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<v Speaker 1>produce more is unquestionable. Growths here in Andalusia today are

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<v Speaker 1>dominated by piqual Oli blanca and Urbikina, and Pequal specifically

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<v Speaker 1>has become the world's most prolific olive account for half

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<v Speaker 1>of Spain's olive trees. These varietals hardiness, high oil content

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<v Speaker 1>and high polyphenal content have made them favorites for intensive

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<v Speaker 1>mass growing. The story sounds familiar because it is farming

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<v Speaker 1>in the twenty one century around the world have brought

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<v Speaker 1>to question many practices about how highly demanded crops are

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<v Speaker 1>produced and what that means for farmers, farm workers, local

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<v Speaker 1>agriculture and economies, and for the health of the land

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<v Speaker 1>and environment in the face of not just a changing climate.

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<v Speaker 1>In a changing environment, there's also international tree attentions to consider,

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<v Speaker 1>which we want covered today. The end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most overwhelming forces that farmers are beholden

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<v Speaker 1>to is simply the supply and demands of a commoditized market.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's become especially problematic for our farmers in Spain

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<v Speaker 1>since the price has fallen below the cost of production

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 1>in the past couple of years. Because Kyle Davis, our

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<v Speaker 1>first expert from Olio as stepa co Op at least

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<v Speaker 1>sums it up. I definitely feel for a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the small farmers who you know, their their entire livelihood

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<v Speaker 1>depends on the crop and and on prices being at

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<v Speaker 1>reasonable levels. But the fact of the matter is is

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<v Speaker 1>that there's been a lot of olive trees planted over,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, throughout Spain over the last five ten years,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was a really large amount of production um

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the two thousand and nineteen twenty harvest,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was a lot of carryover as well after

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<v Speaker 1>a record harvest in the two thousand and eighteen nineteen harvest,

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<v Speaker 1>And so there's just a lot of olive oil in

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<v Speaker 1>the market, and it just kind of comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>supply and demand, and so you know, when there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of oil, people dropped their prices and and and

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<v Speaker 1>so on. Fortunately, we're in a situation where the current

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<v Speaker 1>prices for all three categories Lampante, virgin and virgin extra

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<v Speaker 1>are pretty much below cost of production, which is which

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<v Speaker 1>is tough for the farmers for sure. While co op

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 1>structures and pricing practices like that of Oleo Steppa may

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<v Speaker 1>help protect farmers from some of the volatility we see

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<v Speaker 1>in global supply and demand, perhaps these co op models

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<v Speaker 1>can be a part of the solution for the future,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's yet to be told whether these incentives we

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<v Speaker 1>enough to help maintain the livelihood of farmers in the industry,

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<v Speaker 1>Like sym rates farming community in India who have become

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<v Speaker 1>interested in coconut farming as a new cash crop. Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>describes that for small farmers that are hurting now, we

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<v Speaker 1>see groves and parcels of land that were historically producing

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:02.919
<v Speaker 1>all of are being replanted for crops that are paying

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<v Speaker 1>more now, like almonds. This feels like a complex conundrum

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<v Speaker 1>because at the end of the day, it brings to

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<v Speaker 1>question our entire global food system, and there's not an

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<v Speaker 1>easy way to understand, let alone solve for the complexities

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<v Speaker 1>that that may brain. So where do we go from here?

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<v Speaker 1>My answer for consumers can be in making informed voting

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<v Speaker 1>decisions based on what we purchase. At the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, I think it's most important to start from

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<v Speaker 1>an understanding of origin and where the things we eat

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and drink come from. Supporting small farmers and producers who

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<v Speaker 1>are socially environmentally responsible is also a great starting point

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<v Speaker 1>for olive oil. Our friends in Spain encourage us to

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<v Speaker 1>understand and support biodiversity within olives. Supporting the farmers like

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<v Speaker 1>our friends in Spain that are preserving this richness and

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<v Speaker 1>plants and crops from around the world can help honor

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<v Speaker 1>cultural origins, but can also hold a key to resilience

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<v Speaker 1>in solving conundrums. In our edible Commodities features h h

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<v Speaker 1>h h h h h h h h h h

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<v Speaker 1>h h h h h h h h h. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to our guests on this episode, farmer Symritt, Molly

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Davis of Oleo Steppa, oleologist Alfonso Fernandez, and an

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<v Speaker 1>A Sanchez of the Wan ramon Gian Foundation. To learn more,

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<v Speaker 1>check out our website www. Wet Stone magazine dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>including for tips on how to taste and select olive

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<v Speaker 1>oil and how to just generally better appreciate the global

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<v Speaker 1>diversity of unique cultivars h m hm, h m hmm.