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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What's up, Straight Fire, Fam,

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Speaker 1: It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Tuesday, July twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: You guys love Jay Billis. Yesterday, Holy cal a lot

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Speaker 1: of reaction to the draft chatter. We're now two days

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Speaker 1: uh to the NBA Draft. I'm excited for it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know about y'all. I love the draft. We had

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Speaker 1: a trade We'll get to in a moment um. But today,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. It's tough to upstage j Billis,

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Speaker 1: who is like an iconic figure in college basketball. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you look at the current Mount Rushmore of college

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Speaker 1: basketball media, and I know, like not that many people

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Speaker 1: care about college hoops outside of March Badness. Billis has

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Speaker 1: to be on there for now, you know, the current media.

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Speaker 1: He's like the guy at ESPN um so he Alfred

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Speaker 1: good Insight. It's tough to upstage at but I think

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Speaker 1: Will Blackman tried his hardest. That's who our guest is today.

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Speaker 1: Former Packer cornerback, played for Washington. I've done a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff with him at f S one, uh, Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Really good guys, sharp individual and you know,

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Speaker 1: being this being Aaron Rodgers day and everything in Green

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Speaker 1: Bay Land. Um, Aaron Rodgers, maybe reporting sounds like a

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Speaker 1: deal has been done. We'll get to that shortly. Um.

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Speaker 1: I thought we talked to Will Blackman, who who knows

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Speaker 1: Rogers was in Green Bay when Rogers and McCarthy were

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Speaker 1: starting out and Farv was ending. He's got some good stories.

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Speaker 1: I think you guys are like Will Blackman. He's also

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Speaker 1: known as the wine guy. Um, and listen, I always

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Speaker 1: talk about how one of my one of the moves

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Speaker 1: I try to make anywhere I go, is to make

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Speaker 1: myself expend, make myself so crucial to the organization that

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Speaker 1: they cannot lose me. You know, if you just do

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Speaker 1: one thing, you know, it's easy to dump somebody and

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Speaker 1: move on. If you're doing multiple things, that guy's valuable,

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Speaker 1: we can't. He's invaluable. We cannot lose him. He's a

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Speaker 1: three tool guy. World. Blackman is dove headfirst into the

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Speaker 1: wine business, and he's parlayed his NFL career, his NFL sources,

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Speaker 1: his contacts into the wine business. Um, and that's pretty sharp.

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Speaker 1: Moved by Well black then I like it, so smart guy.

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Speaker 1: You guys are like that. But first Listen, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk with Aaron Rodgers stuff with Will. So I don't

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Speaker 1: have a lot to offer. Um, I'll offer it in

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Speaker 1: the in the interview. UM, I personally don't love this

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Speaker 1: move for Green Bay. I mean, I get why they

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Speaker 1: did it. Let's make it one more run for the

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Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl, Let's do it. Like, I don't know, guys,

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Speaker 1: I just got through the Football Outsiders UM preview of

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Speaker 1: the Packers, and I had to read the War and

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Speaker 1: Sharp preview of the Packers, and then you just kind

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Speaker 1: of look at the Ross. I they're good, obviously, they're

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Speaker 1: very good. In the NFC seems to be a little

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Speaker 1: bit down, especially given the Saints kind of cratering um

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Speaker 1: know about the NFC East. But I just I don't

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Speaker 1: see why you don't cut bait now the guy doesn't

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Speaker 1: much as you can now, move on? You know, should

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Speaker 1: Rogers get it hurt? Um? Should he his play deteriorated?

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Speaker 1: I guys, starting thirty eight in December, Like you're not

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Speaker 1: getting much for him next year? You're certainly not getting

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Speaker 1: more than what you could now thirty eight year old quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Come on. Um. So anyways, we dive into that, but

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Speaker 1: the drafts on the horizon. Just a couple of quick minutes. Um,

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Speaker 1: the Pelicans and I have been hammering the Pelicans for

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Speaker 1: months on this Zion Williamson. They're gonna lose Zion. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna break it with Zion. He's gonna leave, and they

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Speaker 1: kind of listen to me and got rid of Dan

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Speaker 1: van Gundi. Smart move. Okay, the next smart move, but

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Speaker 1: this is only kind of partial is they dumped Steven Adams.

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Speaker 1: They traded Steven Adams, Eric Bledsoe and two firsts, including

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Speaker 1: number ten on Thursday to Memphis for Jonas Valentiunis and

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Speaker 1: bad business. I listened. Don't want to come out here

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Speaker 1: Dee did an awful job last year, awful and now

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Speaker 1: he's trying to fix it by getting valanciunists and they

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Speaker 1: slide down to seventeen. Is there a huge difference between

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Speaker 1: what you get at seventeen, it's not a huge gap.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know if I get the Pelicans

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Speaker 1: plan is, oh, we get off the Adams contracts so

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Speaker 1: you make a run of Kyle Lowry and like, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's settle down. Okay, Kyle Lowry is going to be

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Speaker 1: way better options now. If Kyle Lowry just wants money,

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Speaker 1: But now they get off Bledsoe and Adams. They got

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Speaker 1: but his contract is ridiculous and it's funny the Bucks

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Speaker 1: there's your big NBA trade. To start the week, we

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Speaker 1: So here's our interview with Will Blackman, former NFL cornerback.

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Speaker 1: Jason likes to think he knows everything when it comes

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Speaker 1: to sports. I know what sports stands want, but for

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Speaker 1: everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does. Let's

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Speaker 1: just say I know a guy who knows a guy

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Speaker 1: I've done a lot of work with him. He's funny,

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Speaker 1: What's up? Will? Listen? You got the del what's going on? Man?

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Speaker 1: I just you know, listen, Man, I'm trying. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: You look like you're ready to get back on the field.

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised that he's back? Are you surprised the

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Speaker 1: He was the reigning m v E P and he's

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Speaker 1: in love and he hosted Jeopardy. Just he just went

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Speaker 1: He literally did not have to come back to the

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Speaker 1: Colin isn't isn't speaking, cap Pick is not speaking, so

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Speaker 1: I can't really speak on what he wants. Or even

423
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 1: earlier this year when Aaron was silent, people are like, oh,

424
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Speaker 1: he wants this, he wants this, he goes. I haven't

425
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Speaker 1: reported to text me like what do you think Aaron is?

426
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: Your friends with him? I'm like, until I said, until

427
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 1: Aaron talks, I can't because nothing is clear. So with

428
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: this it's like okay, training camp. Um, you know he's

429
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 1: on the trading block. I think he's set in motion,

430
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 1: like it's all good at play ball, but there's still

431
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Speaker 1: these leonering losses going on. So I don't even know

432
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Speaker 1: what's going on with that type of stuff. So let

433
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Speaker 1: me ask you so, and this is not a flex,

434
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Speaker 1: but when I was part of a group that bought

435
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Speaker 1: a soccer team this year, we uh, it's not inside

436
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: the United States, so they you know, bought they went

437
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: and got a like an investigative agency to look into

438
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 1: the team and the owners and make sure everything's on

439
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 1: the up and up right. Sure, I would assume if

440
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 1: you're the Broncos or the Dolphins, you have a little

441
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 1: swat team in house that is looking into Watson and saying, listen,

442
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: we have found this, that and the other. We can't

443
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 1: touch this guy. Right there, not waiting for news from

444
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter, you already in diligence thinking about what happened

445
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: with and to Tonio Brown, right, and the Patriots still

446
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 1: brought him, Yes they did, and then that happened, and

447
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: then you know, he went on and more stuff came out,

448
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 1: and Tampa Bay still brought him on board, and then

449
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: all of a sudden things were all good because they

450
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: did their homework on on everything. It's tough for us

451
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: to sit here and say whether or not we trade

452
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 1: for him on the surface. I mean again, I'm not

453
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Speaker 1: gonna base it like we've we followed Watson's career what

454
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: for at least like seven eight years now, dating back

455
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 1: to Clemson, Like this guy was a as far as

456
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: I could tell, choir boy in high school, Um, great

457
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: kid in college, Like there's been no marks on his

458
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Speaker 1: record until this stuff pops up. So I don't know

459
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Speaker 1: what to make of it. I personally would do the diligence,

460
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: but I don't, you know, unless I found something really bad,

461
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: I would consider trading for him. And the only and

462
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: the only reason that things could work out in someone's

463
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Speaker 1: favorite when they have that baggage like this is I said,

464
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Speaker 1: this was anyone, you better be that good? Okay, Like

465
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh a b keeps getting chances that because

466
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 1: it was someone else to be to Bead. Yes, if

467
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: it was someone else, they would be up to be

468
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,719
Speaker 1: and your brown is that good? Okay? Did you ever

469
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: have to guard him? Yeah? I had to guard that. Man.

470
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: Guys like generational talent at receiver. Yeah, like I tell people,

471
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Speaker 1: man like I in one season I had to guard

472
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Speaker 1: ab Julio and O b J and like post guys

473
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: are just absolutely elite and incredible because they don't get

474
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Speaker 1: tired and they don't talk. And that was gonna be

475
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Speaker 1: my next question to talk to the most trash I know,

476
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Speaker 1: it's not Julio. They don't talk and they just work.

477
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: That's that's like, okay, you know, now you know what

478
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: type of the game it is. Odell Beckham doesn't talk trash.

479
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Speaker 1: We did not talk. Man. J is the misconceps. So

480
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: he got into it with the cornerback on the It

481
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Speaker 1: was Josh, Josh talk Josh's that's Josh did but j

482
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,959
Speaker 1: you know, I called his ants takes and his personality.

483
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: He's he's still the biggest superstar in the NFL outside

484
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Speaker 1: of Yeah, he's just I think that's a spicy take.

485
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 1: Biggest superstar. Um. Yeah, Actually he is mobile. You can

486
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Speaker 1: go anywhere he wants and people my home, My homes

487
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: is kind of quiet. Yeah, ob J got his own

488
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Speaker 1: Nike clean. It's just weird hearing that because O b

489
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Speaker 1: J has not done Jack. That's my whole point. That's

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Speaker 1: my whole point. Exactly hasn't done anything. Wow, I had

491
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Speaker 1: not thought it. I guess he's back on the map list.

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Speaker 1: And Browns are gonna be good? Uh? True or false?

493
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: Browns are a super Bowl contender. Brown's okay? Um? True

494
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: or false? The Saints are gonna be the Patriots. Um,

495
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: all right, let me sell it. They lose their Hall

496
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Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback. They lose I think four starters on defense,

497
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: it might be five Michael. Then they have no wide receivers.

498
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders is gone, Michael Thomas is hurt. This feels

499
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 1: like a dumpster fire, like a six win team. It

500
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: will be probably might it might be a six depending

501
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: on how Karamine is is. Carolina gonna be better with

502
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 1: Donald I I kind of agree with you, um especially

503
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: I know and I know I know be super privatel

504
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: about this. Why he's Jamis Jamis. He just needs to throws.

505
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you framed that because let he get

506
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Speaker 1: his floor for interceptions out of the way, because no

507
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: receivers will I get that because he has he has

508
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: a five thousand yard He did that in Tampa. But

509
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: he just drew thirty picks, you know, I mean, it's

510
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: just such an indictment that, you know, they can't get

511
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Speaker 1: to the playoffs with Jamis, Brady shows up and they

512
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Speaker 1: win the damn Super Bowl. I mean, I know that

513
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Speaker 1: the rest of team was one that looks one that

514
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: doesn't look back because Brady did some things to get

515
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Speaker 1: what he needed. You should you get Rock a B

516
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: and for net That's not bad. Those are all. Tampa

517
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 1: was a good football team. They was seven or nine

518
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: despite him from thirty picks. But the thing is they

519
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: were already a good football team. What Brady did is

520
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: he taught them how to win. That's it. He taught

521
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: them how to win. That's that's something you know that

522
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: has to be learned. You know, you can be good

523
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: as you want. You know, you just have to. You

524
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: have to learn what right now. The Olympic basketball, you

525
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: know they're getting onmbarded everywhere. Individually they're amazing, but the

526
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Speaker 1: best team are winning. Yeah, and it's not the US.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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531
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Speaker 1: falls Jacksonville Jags are a playoff team. Absolutely not not. Oh,

532
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Speaker 1: they're not coming out the South with the coals in

533
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: the Titans. You like the cold, tell I love the colds.

534
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: Carson Why Carson Wentz? Listen he Carson Wentz is an

535
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: exceptional talent. It is very very I don't care how

536
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: good you are. It is extremely difficult to play football

537
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: in a toxic environment. It is very hard um because

538
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: when there's so many lingering things going on around and

539
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: end the building, everyone can feel it. They know what's

540
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: going on. And when the disconnect with Peterson, Carson Wentz

541
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: and and Mauri and everybody else, like it's like it's confusing.

542
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: No one knows what's going You cannot win like that.

543
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: And I my experience, I was in Washington and it was.

544
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: There was so much dysfunction going on amongst our executives

545
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: where everything we did as an organization was not about football.

546
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't. It was hard. So and I been on

547
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: the other in where it was everything was great and

548
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: the environment was great. And you go your anniversary for

549
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: our Giants team. I will ask you this. You like

550
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz? This is a bit of a trivial question.

551
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: Who is the left tackle for the Indianapolis Colts because

552
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: Becaus Stanzo I think I said his name right, was retired. Okay,

553
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: we know Carson Wentz given the Philly days. Here's footsteps. Um,

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00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm googling the left tackle. Uh do you want to

555
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: guess who it is? Will Um? I know he got

556
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: there is sponsor. No, what's his name? So they got

557
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: Eric Fisher from the Chiefs who was coming off the Achilles.

558
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: So basically, Carson Wentz has no left tackle. That is

559
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: a little sketchy. Again, I don't love the Colts. I

560
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: like everything else about that team. Obviously coach gm skial position.

561
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: But I had the quarterbacks the question mark. Um, but yeah,

562
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: I think the Jack's gonna the playoffs? What about my Jets?

563
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: Any any are you feeling bullish on them or no,

564
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: well you know what, going back yet Eric Fisher, and

565
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: you got Raydon Smith, who's interchangeable. I like Rayn Smith. Um,

566
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: he's actually the exact same size as Fisher. Just they

567
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: might move Fisher McCard. They can do that Smith. That's

568
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: how it's very very possible. I love your optimism. You're

569
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: just positive on everybody, a little pessimist. And but they

570
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: also Mara the mac back. They have pines and Jonathan

571
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: Taylor might be the best back maybe even two years.

572
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Speaker 1: The best back in the NFL maybe two years is

573
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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey dead who said he's the best back? Come on,

574
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Speaker 1: McCaffrey is not who said he was the best back.

575
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Speaker 1: I love mccarth Christian McCaffrey's I love him too. That's

576
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: why I like the Panthers a lot. Who's who's better

577
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Speaker 1: than him? So you know what, That's why I said

578
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: in two years, okay, fair enough. Dalvin Cook is very good,

579
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: is very letter on his hands, but overall like everything

580
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: you want. But I hate doing this. Everyone doesn't toe

581
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: like oh pashectionnation what they catch the boardroom the ball. Yeah.

582
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: But Christian yeah, as he's the entire office, and I

583
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: know Derrick Henry, everybody's gonna be yelling, oh, come on,

584
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: two thousand yards blah blah blah. I mean you've seen

585
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: the carry numbers will like the wheels are coming off soon.

586
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: Like these guys cannot sustain this this load. We've seen

587
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: the history of Alabama players. Um just getting run into

588
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: the ground by Nick Saban. I don't know if Henry

589
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: is going to continue at this pace. Uh. Any thoughts

590
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: on Derrick Henry in the tightness? I like, I am

591
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: nervous about the defense, extremely nervous. They lost a lot

592
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: of guys, especially in the second ary. They did draft

593
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: a couple of guys like us Molden. UM don't know

594
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: about the front seven, so very very very various. I'm

595
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: sure they got Julio, but everyone's still gonna try to

596
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: stop the run because that's what you do. And yes,

597
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: Taranhill has been sensational for them. I don't think Tane

598
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: Hill is enough himself to get it done. Yeah, I'm

599
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: with you, Um, all right, I guess we can wrap

600
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Speaker 1: up with you know, I keep looking at the forty

601
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Speaker 1: nine situation with Garoppolo and Trey Lance and nothing there

602
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Speaker 1: really no noise out of sand France. Still, I'm still

603
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: confused by this. There's no way Trey Lance is starting right,

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Speaker 1: I mean through I think the fewest number of passes

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Speaker 1: of any top ten quarterback in the history of the

606
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: draft or something like that. UM did. Is it possible

607
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: they're screwing this up? No, because if if you first,

608
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: here's two things, If you aren't certain on your current

609
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: quarterback situation, and if you are in a position to

610
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: get a franchise quarterback, you do it. You do it

611
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: because every every single every g M, every coach me

612
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: to get their guy. San Fran has never had their

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00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: guy like they went got Garoppolo because they they need it,

614
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: so've never had their guy. You look at look at Arizona, right,

615
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: they get Josh Rosen and then they get they hire Cliff,

616
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: and Cliffs Cliff wanted Kyler. That's his guy every single time.

617
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: And that's it. Every single g M, a head coach

618
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: that is there, that's where their ego and arrogance come in.

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Speaker 1: It's like, okay, now the new GM, the new head coach,

620
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: like they want to get their quarterback. Okay, when I mean,

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Speaker 1: look at we just mentioned Green Bay. McCarthy shows up.

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00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: You know, Ted Thompson is the one who drafted Aaron

623
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Speaker 1: mccartothy shows up. Was like, all right, let's far like

624
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: Harry up, do your thing, everything, get up out here.

625
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: You know we got somebody else. The only wrinkle there

626
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: is Jimmy Garoppolo still in his prime and when healthy,

627
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: went to the super Bowl. Now the problem is he

628
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: can't stay healthy. But again he did some good things.

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Speaker 1: But he's on our you know, it's a good team.

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Speaker 1: I think Trey Lance on all the quarterbacks in the situation. Um,

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Speaker 1: because he has a health, he has a help of

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Speaker 1: play call and they have a good team. You know

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Speaker 1: if they're not, they lost eleven starters last year. Um,

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Speaker 1: so I think he's in a great situation with that.

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Speaker 1: But again, if this goes back to let me put

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Speaker 1: myself in a defensive perspective. If we're watching the film

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Speaker 1: on Garoppolo, yes, with respect, but no one is here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was the same thing with the Rams, like Jared

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Speaker 1: off was. He was an m v P. Kennedy at

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Speaker 1: one points, but no one is afraid. Okay, this will

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Speaker 1: be the final question. I think, yes, you love who

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford? Okay, um, who is the worst quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the a f C North. You've got Lamar Jackson, you've

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Speaker 1: got Joe Burrow, you got Baker Mayfield, and you've got

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. I'm talking about the worst quarterback heading into

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Speaker 1: this season, not career heading into this season. Yeah, I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: you know what the worst will be, Joe Burrow. I

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Speaker 1: thought I could get to say Ben. I can't say

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Speaker 1: Ben because Ben has something over every other quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: that is that is the mindset. He's done it already.

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Speaker 1: He's already done it. Sure, he has a pop you know,

652
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Speaker 1: pop gun arm right now, he can throw it people

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Speaker 1: in yours whatever. But he's terrible in the second But

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Speaker 1: he has the mindset and experience what to do in

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Speaker 1: every situation. And that's something that you know, Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: hasn't learned yet in the NFL. He will get there.

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Speaker 1: That's something Bigger finally caught on. I love Bigger. I'm

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Speaker 1: a big well now that he has a good coach,

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Speaker 1: right Like in general, I like General. I don't blame

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Speaker 1: I don't blame what happened to Baker in the beginning

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Speaker 1: on Baker. I blame what happened to Baker on the

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Speaker 1: front office. Because when he was in Oklahoma, like he yes,

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Speaker 1: he was the ultimate leader. But then when he and

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Speaker 1: that's why they loved him in Cleveland. But when they

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Speaker 1: brought him to Cleveland, I am convinced that Lebron left

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Speaker 1: and they gave him the keys to the city. Jeez, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's they gave him the and they say, look,

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Speaker 1: this is your team. You take control. So sure he's

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Speaker 1: gonna go on the podium and talk about somebody's injuries,

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Speaker 1: talk about somebody's money, talk about different trades like and

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Speaker 1: there was like, oh, you need to be quiet. I

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Speaker 1: don't blame that. I blame it on was a John

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Speaker 1: Dorsey who got him there. They I'm sure I know

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Speaker 1: they gave him the keys to the city. Was like,

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Speaker 1: go do your thing. And then eventually, yeah, things to

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Speaker 1: trickle back. But he was able to He didn't let

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Speaker 1: that beat him up. And the one thing I do

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Speaker 1: love about Baker is that this is his story. Walk

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Speaker 1: down to Texas tech ye or in a startin job,

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Speaker 1: goes to you know, Oklahoma, walks on Oklahoma and the

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Speaker 1: start of job into the high san Like he earned

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Speaker 1: his stuff, so let's see what you want. You know,

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Speaker 1: he has that toughness. So yeah, so I would say

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Speaker 1: just in order, I was still saying Lamar one two

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Speaker 1: then and then Borrow pulling up the rear. I have

686
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: a feeling Burrow is going to be real nice this

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Speaker 1: year with the receiver they drafted. Um, you know, second

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00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: year in the system offensive lines. Who's sitting out this preseason?

689
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Speaker 1: By the way, You're going to sit out as you should? Who? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean come on coming off that injury. Um, anyways,

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Speaker 1: all right, well black one great stuff. Where where can

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Speaker 1: we find you? Your your work? Just go at black

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Speaker 1: find me there and look at you. You You got your

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Speaker 1: own website at well blackly my social media? Just oh right, okay,

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Speaker 1: yeah social media. How's the wine game? It's good. It's

696
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Speaker 1: it's super fun. I just did. I did a cool

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Speaker 1: whiskey taste with Jamal Ramsy. He was in town for

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Speaker 1: a l A so it's pretty cool. We went to

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Speaker 1: Dama in l A. That's a great restaurant. Oh geez,

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Speaker 1: that's high end good. It's like it's like that's where

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Speaker 1: like Kendall Jenner has stuff. Okay, it's like black It's

702
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Speaker 1: like Latin uh a Caribbean fusion. Jalen Ramsey's dad is

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Speaker 1: in the whiskey business. No, no, he's in town and

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Speaker 1: he likes, yeah, well, who doesn't know. So it was

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Speaker 1: andrews end beast like. So, first of all, I met

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Speaker 1: Jalen when he was sixteen. We did a football video

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Speaker 1: together with Football University in Tennessee. They had they had

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Speaker 1: a pro guy, high killer and youth, and I was

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Speaker 1: the prog obviously, and it was funny when we sat

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Speaker 1: down into the panel, like I was like, oh, the

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Speaker 1: black men did my story. He wasn't. Sitting next to

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Speaker 1: Will is probably the next well black with Jalen Ramsey.

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Speaker 1: I said, hold on, I said, I said, this guy

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Speaker 1: is gonna be way better. You have no idea, what

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Speaker 1: do you mean? I was like, dude, I'm like I

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Speaker 1: told us that was like I said, it sounds gonna

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Speaker 1: go first round, so under the right now. He was

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Speaker 1: like how could tell that? He was like, how do

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Speaker 1: you know? I said, he's gone. And when I saw

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Speaker 1: his dad he reminded me that. He was like, remember

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Speaker 1: we told that he's only two people said my j

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Speaker 1: was going the first one. He said you and my

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Speaker 1: and he said that was it. Ki. He's like, how

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Speaker 1: did you He's like, because he's an SC at the time,

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Speaker 1: and Jalen committed to SC you know transfer and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to Flora f Yeah yeah wow. So um so

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Speaker 1: that's how the friendship started. And then Jane was like,

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Speaker 1: my dad's in town. He wasn't he just saw you.

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Speaker 1: He just saw you doing an event with angels and

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Speaker 1: be whiskey. Um. I was like, yeah, I could put

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Speaker 1: something together. And so we got a couple of our

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Speaker 1: friends when Dona came down sponsor the small tasting and

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Speaker 1: it was pretty cool. Jeez man. High answer. Well, if

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Speaker 1: you ever need like a you know, uh, you know, single,

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Speaker 1: a sports media guy to join one of those well

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Speaker 1: you know my number. Yeah, you know, just I should

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Speaker 1: have called you. You could have you could have pictures

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Speaker 1: for use. Oh wow, that's good. I all right, buddy,

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Speaker 1: Well well lets you out on that one. That was

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Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah,