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Speaker 1: of you that want to get questions answered on the show,

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Speaker 1: my name at John Middlecoff is my Instagram d MS

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Speaker 1: wide open. You fire in those direct messages, you get

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Speaker 1: your question answered here. After we talk about things like trust,

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Speaker 1: the process, why it wouldn't work a the NFL. Cole Beasley,

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Speaker 1: who kind of was a polarizing topic Friday Saturday over

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. UH want to touch on that, and

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Speaker 1: then the Bears and kind of their situation in regards

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Speaker 1: to a stadium and just some overall thoughts on stadium taxes,

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Speaker 1: the angles that typically get attacked by the media, and

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Speaker 1: then of course the middlecoff mailbag. Like I said, shoot

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Speaker 1: me a direct message. Trust the process is a statement

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Speaker 1: that has become very synonymous in sports when you think

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Speaker 1: about teams. Tanking right and taking has been something that

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Speaker 1: they changed the draft lottery odds. Theo Epstein and the

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Speaker 1: Astros management literally tried to blow it up and hit

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Speaker 1: it's hard to quantify what it really equaled in terms

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Speaker 1: But like tangibly, it worked in baseball, basketball failure in football.

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Speaker 1: That is so much different than when you look at

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Speaker 1: about and Saban uses this all the time, the process

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Speaker 1: talks about leading to winning. Trust the process is like, listen, guys,

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Speaker 1: we are gonna suck for several years. Sit down, shut up,

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Speaker 1: and take it. But ultimately you're kind of promising them

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Speaker 1: especially now there's seven teams. You just keep swinging, you

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Speaker 1: win some games, boom, you're the Browns. They didn't really

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Speaker 1: typically been through failure. But every single one of those failures,

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Speaker 1: And also assuming that you're just gonna pick the right

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Speaker 1: over fifteen teams. Kay, I wanted to talk about another

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Speaker 1: polarizing topic, stadiums and the financing of stadiums. And I've

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Speaker 1: actually never been to Chicago, so I don't have a

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Speaker 1: great feel for you know, the geographical setup and the

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Speaker 1: conversation that is going in terms of where this stadium

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Speaker 1: would be where they play now, obviously I think Soldier

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Speaker 1: Field is downtown, but there are an argument right now

435
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Speaker 1: the Bears, Soldier Field, the mayor, and then just this

436
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Speaker 1: overarching conversation comes up is teams cannot let the government

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Speaker 1: and the taxpayer pay for their stadium. And my answer

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Speaker 1: to that is why not? Why would you if you

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Speaker 1: didn't have to spend your own money if someone else

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Speaker 1: was willing to spend it. Just let's just start on

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Speaker 1: that premise. I'm looking to buy something in Arizona right now,

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Speaker 1: house condo, I don't know. I'm actually going in a

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Speaker 1: week gonna check them out. And let's say I have

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Speaker 1: two dollars cash, and I'm trying to buy something a

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Speaker 1: million dollars down instead of using my own two hundred

446
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars. What if I could get someone else to

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Speaker 1: put down the two dollars and then I serviced the debt,

448
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Speaker 1: whether I lived there, whether I rent it out, and

449
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Speaker 1: my benefit is being in that area and just you know,

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Speaker 1: being a part of that area they're incentivizing me to come.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't I take that deal and just still have two

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Speaker 1: dollars or do whatever I wanted. Hell, I can buy

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Speaker 1: another place, or would I tell them, no, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: do this myself. I want this, especially if I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: own the thing. Either way, what you're gonna you're gonna

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Speaker 1: pay for it. Like listen, I gave Mark Davis a

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Speaker 1: lot of ship when he was leaving Oakland, and that

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Speaker 1: was emotional because I knew a lot of season ticket

459
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Speaker 1: holders and I knew what it meant to him. But

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Speaker 1: in terms of a business deal, wait, you could spend

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Speaker 1: a bunch of your own money in an area with

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Speaker 1: cookie politicians that have a bunch of red tape. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna charge you up the ass, and even if you

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Speaker 1: can't afford to do it, which they couldn't, it might

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Speaker 1: not even pencil in the Bay Area and you've got

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Speaker 1: to compete against another team, or you go to Vegas

467
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Speaker 1: where there is no red tape. They can do whatever

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Speaker 1: they want and they're gonna pay for it all and

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Speaker 1: then let you own it. What what would any human

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Speaker 1: being do? And this notion that stealing tax dollars is

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Speaker 1: like I think when we say that out loud, it

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Speaker 1: sounds good, Like how can you take our horrorn money. Anyone, listen,

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Speaker 1: we all pay it, right, We all pay taxes at

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Speaker 1: some level. Well, I've lived in California. I grew up

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Speaker 1: in Davis, California. We once, with our tax dollars built

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Speaker 1: a tunnel for toads. We built this new overpass. I

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Speaker 1: think when I was in junior high I think I've

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Speaker 1: told this story. They spent a million dollars to build

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Speaker 1: a tunnel for the toads so they would be safe. Recently,

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Speaker 1: a city council member in the city of Davis had

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Speaker 1: gotten to Amsterdam within the last five years and the

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Speaker 1: way they set up the roads. She saw something and

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Speaker 1: she thought it would be a brilliant idea. So they

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Speaker 1: implemented it over where my mom and brother live. Now.

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Speaker 1: It has actually been the biggest disaster for traffic in

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Speaker 1: the history of the city. They're gonna have to go

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Speaker 1: back and rip this up. So they spent the money

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Speaker 1: on the project to like separate the lanes and make

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Speaker 1: a much bigger bike lane. It is created just a

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Speaker 1: disaster for every commuter, right and they're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: rip it out and put it back to normal. Cost

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Speaker 1: them a ton. We act like taking taxpayer dollars. This

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Speaker 1: is why, listen, I hate taxes like it's one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest reasons I want to live or leave California

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Speaker 1: is because we act what and it sounds great like

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Speaker 1: you're taking it away from the innocent children, from the

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Speaker 1: single moms. That's not what actually happens, at least in

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Speaker 1: the state that I live in. The money that gets allocated,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, often gets wasted. It's why guys like

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Speaker 1: Warren Buffett are often outspoken of Yeah, I feel more

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Speaker 1: confident than I can allocate the resources, because historically would

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Speaker 1: say he is. He is more likely to help individuals

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Speaker 1: than the government is. So this notion that if they

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Speaker 1: can convince the government to give them free money, that

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Speaker 1: they shouldn't take it is laughable. It's actually pretty naive.

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Speaker 1: Even David Tepper someone shot me this d M the

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Speaker 1: other day. He's very adamant that he wants to get

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Speaker 1: money from Carolina. You'd say, he's got all this cash

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Speaker 1: in what world if I give you a hundred dollars,

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Speaker 1: just just pick a small, tiny amount twenty dollars and

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Speaker 1: I say you can either use that money on something

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Speaker 1: or have someone else buy it for you. And you

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Speaker 1: keep the twenty dollars. There is not one human listening

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Speaker 1: that would not let especially if you don't know him anything.

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Speaker 1: You just get, I mean all you gonna get to

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Speaker 1: do a service to debt. Everyone would choose that. Now

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Speaker 1: a huge battle. Depending on what city you live in

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Speaker 1: and what politicians you're dealing with. It's a challenge. Like

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Speaker 1: in California, they're not gonna give you much money. We're

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Speaker 1: very radical, even though we have an unlimited about a

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Speaker 1: taxpayer money which we waste. But in some of these

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Speaker 1: pro business states Vegas, Boom Rock and Rolling Right, Nashville, Arizona,

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Speaker 1: like some of these states are gonna be more conducive

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Speaker 1: to get in the money. But I will never fault

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Speaker 1: an owner for paying for it or I mean, excuse

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Speaker 1: me taking the money. Just like Stan Crocky, he was

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Speaker 1: never gonna get a lot of cash from l A.

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Speaker 1: That's not the way we roll. But he spent four

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Speaker 1: or five six billion dollars. It was really really expensive. Now,

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Speaker 1: maybe he money meant nothing to him, which we know

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Speaker 1: that's not true for any rich guy. Maybe it was

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Speaker 1: just easier for him not to deal with the red tape.

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Speaker 1: He just spent all the money. But if l a

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Speaker 1: of that six million dollars had given him too and listen, no,

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Speaker 1: you owe me this or you have to do this,

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Speaker 1: he would have taken it. He just didn't want to

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Speaker 1: waste time dealing with it because he knew he probably

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Speaker 1: couldn't get it. But like when I see that the

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Speaker 1: Bears are going to try to get or just any

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Speaker 1: team is going to try to get taxpayer money, I

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Speaker 1: will never fault them. And if you are crushing them,

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Speaker 1: if you're one of those people, you're being a little

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Speaker 1: naive because every single business, I mean literally America operates

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Speaker 1: on politicians spending other people's money. That's the way the

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Speaker 1: hierarchy of our society works. Without taxes, I mean, our

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Speaker 1: society wouldn't roll. Now, we can nitpick how much we

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Speaker 1: should all pay, but like are you And ultimately the

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Speaker 1: argument of the anti people are gonna be like, it

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Speaker 1: actually doesn't bring that much to the society. Well, I'd

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Speaker 1: say my pushback would be like, we basically flush billions

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Speaker 1: of dollars in different things all over the country down

552
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Speaker 1: the drain every single year. So at least this does

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Speaker 1: have some tangible impact of positive right, people enjoy it

554
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: seventy plus go to all the games. Now again, I

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Speaker 1: have no problem with the city denying that, and that

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Speaker 1: I think is going to happen a lot. But also

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Speaker 1: never question any owner that accepts the cash, no matter

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Speaker 1: how much money he has in the bank, because we'd

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Speaker 1: all do it at John Middlecoff is the Instagram account

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Speaker 1: firing those d m s and get your questions right here.

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail bag start with Chris, Hey Middlecoff, your podcast

562
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Speaker 1: is fire. Have enjoyed your takes on viewer difference between

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Speaker 1: the NFL and every other professional sports. I think somewhere

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Speaker 1: along the line, the NBA and MLB decided that more

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Speaker 1: games were better than quality of games. So do you

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Speaker 1: think the NFL is making the same mistake by adding

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Speaker 1: more games. I think it's definitely a risk. Now. They

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Speaker 1: didn't add more games. They added one more game. They

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Speaker 1: went from sixteen to seventeen, and they added one more

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Speaker 1: playoff game on both sides. Right, they added an extra

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Speaker 1: playoff game on the in the NFC, in the a

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Speaker 1: f C. It's always a risk. Whenever you expand, it's risky.

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Speaker 1: But every single person I've ever met in the business

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Speaker 1: world continue have been consistent with the messages. If you're

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Speaker 1: not growing, you're dying. So I think part of expansion, right,

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Speaker 1: I think baseball's messed with it. They've expanded their playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I think basketball is toying with a lot of you

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Speaker 1: know this playing game, this mid season tournament. You're always

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Speaker 1: trying to take steps forward. And listen, football got lucky

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Speaker 1: their sport. If the NFL could play five games a week,

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Speaker 1: they would, but you just can't. In football. You can

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Speaker 1: play at max one game, right, four days is the

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Speaker 1: hipping point that that is the that's the the edge.

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Speaker 1: You know that Thursday game, that initial pushback probably seven

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Speaker 1: eight years ago. Eventually everyone started making so much money

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Speaker 1: people just shut up about it. But that is baseball. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: if you're playing baseball, you play every day. Now. Personally,

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Speaker 1: I would set it to a hundred games, make more urgency,

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Speaker 1: maybe higher television ratings. But what if television ratings didn't

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Speaker 1: go up and you just cut your inventory by sixty games.

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Speaker 1: That's losing a lot of money. So I do think

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Speaker 1: it's a tough spot for both teams. That would be

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Speaker 1: my recommendation, But I bet if you really got a

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Speaker 1: breakdown from their financial officers, from the TV ratings, just

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Speaker 1: because if if let's say we cut the NBA season

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Speaker 1: and half, we went from eighty two games to forty one,

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Speaker 1: you got home games and twenty away games. Obviously would

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Speaker 1: differ from the teams. Do we think this for sure?

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Speaker 1: NBA ratings would be really high. You'd assume they would

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Speaker 1: go up, there'd be more interest, But I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's a guarantee. Same thing with baseball if you didn't happen,

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Speaker 1: and really their sports have been more predicated because they

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Speaker 1: have more inventory on the gate receipts selling tickets right

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Speaker 1: the NFL, the ticket sales and the sweet sales, that's

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00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: just yacht money for Dan Snyder, Jerry Jones and company.

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Speaker 1: That's that's just you know, third home in Aspen or

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Speaker 1: a home in Spain, or paying for their plane type money.

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Speaker 1: They make their money from the TV revenue. That's where

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Speaker 1: the real cash operates. And it's a lot of cash

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Speaker 1: for baseball and basketball, but they make a ton a

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Speaker 1: ton from the gate receipts. It's just not the same

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Speaker 1: with the NFL. Hey, John uh enjoyed the podcast all

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Speaker 1: the way from Dublin, Ireland. I'm feeling pretty pessimistic about

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Speaker 1: the short and medium term for the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 1: To me, Mac Jones looks like a backup at best,

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Speaker 1: and Belichick's offense offensive drafting has been highly questionable in

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Speaker 1: recent years based off last year. He's too good of

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Speaker 1: a coach to end up drafting high enough to nab

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Speaker 1: a true franchise quarterback. What are your thoughts? Are we

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Speaker 1: doomed to be mediocre for years or can we get

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Speaker 1: back on top? I think the days of being back

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Speaker 1: on top are over that one bye bye with a

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Speaker 1: guy named Tom Brady. I do think you have the

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Speaker 1: potential to be a playoff team this year. If they

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Speaker 1: made the playoffs this year, that'd be a really big deal.

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Speaker 1: And they drafted mac Jones at overall, Like mac Jones

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Speaker 1: is gonna be the New England Patriots quarterback at minimum

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Speaker 1: for three years and he would have to be a disaster.

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Speaker 1: But he's getting some time. He's getting some time. And

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Speaker 1: I think they're too good of coaching staff with Josh

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Speaker 1: and him to not figure out how to utilize them,

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Speaker 1: even like Kirk Cousins, you guys have too much talent

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Speaker 1: on the team. You bought all these players obviously, draft Mac.

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Speaker 1: You draft the Alabama defensive tackle really high. But to me,

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Speaker 1: you signed a bunch of players. You get a bunch

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Speaker 1: of guys back off the Corona list. I if I

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Speaker 1: had to guess right now in New England Patriots record,

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Speaker 1: I guess nine and eight, nine and eight or ten

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Speaker 1: and seven that that would be nine to ten wins.

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Speaker 1: So if you gave me the over under it eight

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Speaker 1: and a half and eight and at eight now is

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00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: not eight and eight anymore, it's eight and nine, I

643
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: would take the over. Now, does nine or ten wins

644
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: get in the playoffs? It might not. It took eleven

645
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: to get to the playoffs last year for the a

646
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: f C. Think about the Raiders win eight and eight

647
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: last year and missed the playoffs by three games, So

648
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: it's different. The a f C is stacked, so it's

649
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: gonna be difficult. But your days of dominating like the

650
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: Patriots once did are just over. As a listener to

651
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: your podcast the fast past few months, I've gotten the

652
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: impression that you didn't really enjoy your time working in

653
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: the NFL. You said, my quality of life improved drastically

654
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: once I stopped working in the NFL. Can you expand

655
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: on that a bit. Maybe, What are the two things

656
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: you did not like about working in the NFL and

657
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: what are the two things you did enjoy When I

658
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: worked in the NFL, I really enjoyed it. Now, it

659
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: was difficult, but you have to remember in my three

660
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: years working in the NFL, my first year when I

661
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: got hired by the Eagles, I think I made twenty

662
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: five thou dollars. My next year was like forty five

663
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 1: and then fifty, so I was not making any money. Now.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't as into money as I became probably the

665
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: last five or six years, so that didn't phase me.

666
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: But I didn't have any money. Now, luckily, when you

667
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: work for a team, you're dry cleaning, your gym, your food,

668
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: like a lot of your expenses are taken care of,

669
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: so you actually probably have a little more money than

670
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: you think. But it was it was a very stressful

671
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: job for not much cash. Now, that's the nature of

672
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: getting in your your foot in the door in the league.

673
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: You're not gonna make that much to start off. So

674
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: it didn't make any money. And I would say, secondly,

675
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: what I really felt like I came into my own

676
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: is when I got the West Coast job, and I

677
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: was I was meant to do that. I think I

678
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: was made to be a road scout, like if I

679
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: was gonna work in the NFL or do the college

680
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: just college scouting, but you know who knows if I'd

681
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: stay in the league director of college scouting one day whatever.

682
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: I did that for one year and I got fired

683
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 1: because our team sucked, right, It just was a disaster.

684
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 1: Michael Vick got hurt, we went four and twelve. Andy

685
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 1: got fired. So the best year for me professionally. The

686
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: team was awful and it led to me ultimately losing

687
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: my job. The first two years, like pro scouting really

688
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: wasn't for me. Uh and really my first year it

689
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: was more just doing Actually my first year was awesome,

690
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: very stressful, but just getting to do everything for like

691
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 1: the coaching staff and the GM it was really cool.

692
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: My second year as a pro scout, I hated. It

693
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: was just I'm not wired that way. To sit inside

694
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: for fifteen hours a day working a lot doesn't phase me.

695
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: I work a lot now. I wake up at six,

696
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: I walk right into the office. You know, sometimes I'll

697
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: look up it'll be seven eight at night. I'm still working,

698
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: Like I've never had a album work. Ethic wise, the

699
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: one thing that really changed in my life is like

700
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: money became important, Like I wanted to do certain things,

701
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: and I've been able to make a lot more doing this.

702
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: Like I immediately went to radio and doubled my salary.

703
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: Think about that. I went to radio, doubled my salary

704
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: at a two hour radio show. So it's like that

705
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: was pretty eye opening. And uh, I met some of

706
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: my best friends, like in life, guys that I still

707
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: close with and talk with, guys that I consider really

708
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: really close friends. So I mean the negatives were more

709
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: when I started having individual success. The team fell apart

710
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: and I didn't make that much money. But at the

711
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: time I didn't really care, like I was not. I

712
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: would have done the road job for ten dollars, right,

713
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: you would have made me the West Coast Scout, just

714
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: pay my expenses break even. I would have been fine.

715
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: So at the time, the money didn't phase me. I

716
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Speaker 1: think part of my the way I about it now

717
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 1: is my life has changed. I changed as a human being.

718
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Speaker 1: But I I would not be here doing this if

719
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't for that. So I never dispute like I

720
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Speaker 1: needed that point in time in my life and I

721
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: was lucky enough to be in my mid twenties, didn't

722
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: wasn't married, didn't have kids, so it didn't matter. So

723
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: I I my time in the NFL. Maybe I I

724
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: am more doom and gloom about it the way I

725
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: talked about it now, but I I enjoyed it back

726
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: then a lot. I mean it changed my life. Football

727
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: changed my life. It really did. Fresno State A and

728
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles. It led to all these opportunities to

729
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: where ultimately now I get to work with Coln Coward.

730
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: Would not have been possible. I could not have broken

731
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: into the radio business. Would just being a radio guy

732
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: at thirty years old, no one would have cared about

733
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: my NFL opinions. I just would have been like every other,

734
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: you know guy out there talking with no resume. But

735
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 1: I had a football resume, and maybe I was always

736
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: meant to do more this stuff. It just led me here.

737
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in everything's happen happens for a reason.

738
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: If you would have told me in two thousand eleven

739
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: I'd be doing this, I probably wouldn't have believed you.

740
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: Now I can't see myself doing anything differently, but this

741
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: life has also allowed me to do a bunch of

742
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: other things. Right, I've I can just have a bunch

743
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: of different business ventures. Right, I'm gonna be able to

744
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: do things that I probably wouldn't have been able to do,

745
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: the biggest positive of the job I have now is

746
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: I can have like seven jobs I could buy, I

747
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: I could become. I could do whatever I want, whenever

748
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: I want. And maybe I was meant to do that,

749
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: and so like my I didn't. Some people are just

750
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: like born to be entrepreneurs. Some people are born with

751
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: a vision to be a general manager. I wasn't necessarily

752
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: born with that vision. I have passions and they kind

753
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: of get sculpted. You know. Everyone would want to be

754
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: like Tiger Woods, ready to just hit the ground running

755
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: and know exactly what they want to do. Or I

756
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: remember being around Howie and he wanted to be a

757
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: GM from the moment he was like ten years old.

758
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: I didn't have those type visions about working in the

759
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: NFL two years previously. Beside before working there, I didn't

760
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: know like I was going to be an entrepreneur and

761
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: start my own business five years ago. And things just

762
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: happened and I kind of roll with it, and then

763
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: I become. I'm led there by things that I enjoyed,

764
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: but I'm led there by the things that happened to me.

765
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: And uh, it all is because of my stint in

766
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: the National Football League. So I think I I had listen.

767
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: I am very very lucky. I say it all the time.

768
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: I would have taken any job. Jags, the Vikings, you

769
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: name a team that I got hired by Andy Reid

770
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: and Halley Roseman, who I got to be on the

771
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: staff with Sean McDermott, Matt Naggye, Do Staley, Lewis Riddick,

772
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: Phil Savage, Brett Veach. Right, I just I mean held

773
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: David Culley's head coach. Now I got to be around

774
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: on it. I didn't know it, just it happened. So

775
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: it's just it changed my life. So it's you look

776
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: back different on different angles and elements of it. Uh,

777
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: they are parts of it. While I did it like

778
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: I was like I'd be better at something else, and

779
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: then I got to do it. Like I said, the

780
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: college scouting, which was awesome. Now part of it sucked.

781
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: Like I drove everywhere. I had a Honda Chord and

782
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: on the West coast you have from Arizona up to

783
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: Washington through Colorado. It is an enormous land mass, not

784
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: as many schools like there are actually more schools in

785
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: the SEC area because you have the SEC, the a SEC,

786
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: a bunch of little schools, you know, some of the

787
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: nonpower fives, like the u CFS. Mine is basically just

788
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve in the Mountain West, which is really

789
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: just San Diego State, Fresno State, Nevada, right and then

790
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: a couple of Montana's Weaver states, but those are hit

791
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: or miss. So it's basically the Pack twelve and some

792
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: of the Mountain West, but they are really far apart.

793
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: Right from from Stanford and UC Davis then cal up

794
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: to uh Oregon is a long way in me in

795
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 1: that Honda Chord with Series XM radio made that drive

796
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: countless times. Boise the Sacramento made that drive, Arizona to

797
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: l A, to Vegas to Utah made those drives. So

798
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: it's just like, God, damn, Now, I could do it

799
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: back then? Could I do it now for that an

800
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: amount of money? Zero chance? Because I value my time's

801
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: worth way more than that now, and I've been able

802
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: to make way more than that now. But I wouldn't

803
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: have been able to do that without that, you know,

804
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: just experience, and I really value it. Even though I

805
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: maybe maybe sound negative about it, I'm truly not as

806
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: negative as I enjoy just being a part of it.

807
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: I I really did. I've listened to every episode of

808
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: three and Out and yes I subscribe through your feet. Thanks.

809
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm curious what your opinion about the offensive lineman the

810
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks drafted from Florida, Stone Forsyth. As a long

811
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: seat Oks fan, I believe this exactly the guy that

812
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: the Hawks needed to draft to protect us. It seems

813
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: like you fell pretty far in the draft, and I

814
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: really don't understand why this seems to be a nice edition. Uh.

815
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: As much as I dislike things about Pete, I'm confident

816
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: he got a great player with this pick. Well, I

817
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,479
Speaker 1: saw this question and I looked it up before because

818
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't quite sure who this player was, and I

819
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: saw that this player, I think has a lot of

820
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: parallels to Trent Brown, who is now the starting left

821
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: tackle for the New England Patriots, who was with the Niners.

822
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: They drest Trent Ballky drafted him in the seventh round.

823
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: He was ultimately traded to the Patriots, won a Super Bowl.

824
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: The Raiders signed him for a ton of money, and

825
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 1: like Trent Brown, this player I think would be considered

826
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: an underachiever. Now, there was no disputing once you saw

827
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: Trent Brown. He's bigger than every human on the field.

828
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,959
Speaker 1: Same we'll be with this guy. It's just about does

829
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: he want to do it? Now. I think they're a

830
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: little bit different type player. This guy is not as

831
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: aggressive in the run game, better pass protector. Trent Brown

832
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: initially was a better run uh run player than a

833
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: pass protector. He's become a really good player. But I

834
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: think when you have elite physical specimens like this guy

835
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: like Trent Brown, lineman big guys. Lewis Riddick taught me

836
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: this and I've said this on the show before and

837
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: I can relate it. I can get a little chubby

838
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: as well. Big guys can get inherently lazy. And you

839
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: saw this a lot historically, like with Shack and just

840
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: big guys in the NBA, Like they're not running up

841
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: the court, they get tired faster than the guy that

842
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: weighs a hundred pound less than they do. So you

843
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: have to condition them to be really aggressive. Now, if

844
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: you can coach them and get the most out of them,

845
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: sky's the limit. Trent Brown has been one of the

846
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: great seventh round picks of all time because he's an

847
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: elite player. You got him in the seventh round. Now

848
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: he comes with some baggage. You know, he's hit or

849
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 1: missed in terms of effort sometimes, and I think that's

850
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 1: the question mark on this player. But they they're taking

851
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: a big flyer and we'll see. I got no problem

852
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: taking big swings in the six and seventh round. I

853
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: think you're more likely to hit a big swing than

854
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: to take like some lower floor can't miss, like this

855
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: guy is gonna make our team on special teams, because

856
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: once you get the six seventh round, there is no

857
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: such thing as some low floor. Everyone could be a

858
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: major with You might as well swing for the fences

859
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: unless he's a bad guy, which I don't know anything

860
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: about this guy's character, but when the guys have character

861
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: red flags, they're pretty risky. There's a reason he was there.

862
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Speaker 1: New fan here, Vikings fan. What are your thoughts on

863
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: the NFC North If Aaron Rodgers is still the quarterback

864
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: for Green Bay, I think they're gonna win the NFC

865
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: no North. So if if Aaron Rodgers goes nowhere and

866
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: shows up at training camp, the Packers are just the

867
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: team to beat. I think they're the second best team

868
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: in the NFC behind Tampa Bay, and they have the

869
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: second best roster in the NFC behind Tampa Bay. And

870
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: I think it's really close. As we saw them play,

871
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: it was a really close game. If they get traded, um,

872
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 1: they clearly are very very up in the air. Heard

873
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: you on Collins Feed and subscribe myself to yours, wondering

874
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 1: if we could talk baseball for a hot minute. Born

875
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: and raised in Baltimore and a die hard Ravens and

876
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: Oriole fan, Cedric Mullins is absolutely crushing it and no

877
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: one outside of Baltimore even knows what other MLB players

878
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: come to your mind that are producing in high levels,

879
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: completely under the radar. I think it comes at the

880
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: highest levels. Show Hey O Toney last week, last week

881
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: in obviously there's seven days in a week, hit six

882
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: home runs and one a game. I think if we

883
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: looked at the last fifty years of baseball and he

884
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: didn't win a game because he came in and out

885
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: of right the bullpen, he started the game he's I

886
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: can't they play the Giants this I think in two days.

887
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch he hit six home runs

888
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: and one a game as a starting pitcher. If someone

889
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 1: in the NFL did the equivalent of that, I don't

890
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: even know. Let's say in a game through three touchdowns

891
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: and also played linebacker and had seven tackles, I think

892
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 1: we would talk about that is one of the greatest

893
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: game has ever played in the history of the league.

894
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: He played quarterback and he played linebacker safety. That is he.

895
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't parallel itself exactly what Otani is doing.

896
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: It would be one of the biggest stories in America.

897
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't even think people are talking about Otani. I

898
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: think Otani is one of the greatest athletes in the

899
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: history of the world. What he's doing in the history

900
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: of baseball in seventy eight years since like Babe Ruth,

901
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: there's there hasn't been a guy that pitched and played

902
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: offense and dominated at both. And that's what this guy

903
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 1: is doing in the big leagues. Think how often, whoever

904
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: you played high school football with Most guys on my

905
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: high school football team, the top five or six players

906
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: played both ways, quarterback, Some of the linemen, linebackers, some

907
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: wide receiver corners. Right. Your best players in high school

908
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 1: typically never come off the field once you get to college.

909
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: That ends. You just pick a position. No one in

910
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: the pros plays offensive defense right in foot ball. No

911
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: one in baseball like you either. Picture you hit, you

912
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: gotta pick a lane. This guy's doing it both. So

913
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: I think the best player in baseball this year has

914
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: been show Hey Otani, and I really don't think he's

915
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: as big a story as he twenty years ago, Like

916
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: it would be the biggest story in America by a mile.

917
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: Tom Brady claiming that, you know, whatever he said on

918
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 1: the shop promo Lebron Show for HBO is a bigger

919
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: story than show. Heyo, Tony, think about that. So it's

920
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: just I just think baseball it's just not as mainstream

921
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 1: anymore because your biggest hosts now the people that used

922
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: to just talk Dan Patrick, Colin Coward, whoever, Bill Simmons,

923
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: Ryan Russillo, pardon might take. They just don't talk baseball. Me.

924
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: I I love baseball. I'm still a sucker for baseball.

925
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: I don't talk about it. I don't why would I

926
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: waste time? I can't make any money doing it. It's

927
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: just it's just it's sad. But yeah, I think it

928
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: starts at the top. As a lifelong Bengals fan, I'm

929
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: pumped about Burrow. Am I crazy for thinking this guy

930
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: could shape up to be one of the best in

931
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: the league. Getting him hurt last year really pissed me

932
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 1: off because we saw it coming. I was so upset

933
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: when it happened I had to turn the TV off

934
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: and not watch the rest of the game. Is it

935
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: unrealistic to think the line gets its act together they

936
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: could win nine or ten games. I think that's a

937
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: pretty dramatic jump, right. They had the number one overall

938
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: pick in the draft two years ago. They had the

939
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: number five overall pick in this draft, so they went

940
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: from number one number five to nine wins if they won.

941
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: If they went nine and eight, I think Zach Taylor

942
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: would be the coach of the year pretty easily. But

943
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Burrow looks fantastic. He's coming back from

944
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: a major knee injury. Their defense stinks, Their division is fantastic.

945
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: They are easily easily the worst team in the division.

946
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: So I if they played a shitty division, maybe they

947
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: get to seven wins. Maybe best case, how do they

948
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 1: win a game in their division? I think it's very,

949
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: very difficult. I think they could be good and go

950
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 1: one and five in the division pretty easily. And when

951
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: I say good, like much improved. We Also I liked

952
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: him on mcveigh's podcast. Sounds like a cool guy. Like

953
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: to drink some beers with him. I don't know if

954
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: he's a good head coach. First time, long time about

955
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: to head to San Diego. Best place to eat? Keep

956
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: the podcast coming, you know, I haven't been to San

957
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 1: Diego in such a long time. It's kind of sad.

958
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: I think San Diego. I know John rom said this,

959
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: It's one of the best cities in America, easily, hands down,

960
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: barn none, undeniable. Just go to like a hole in

961
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: the wall Mexican joint and get like a carne asada burrito.

962
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: I've never been in San Diego in my adult life

963
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: when I had a lot of money, so I was

964
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: never going to nice restaurants. So I I'm the wrong

965
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: guy to ask, sir. I want to know, does Brady

966
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: get three separate contracts with Tampa Bay Buccaneers. What is

967
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: the player? Two? Is the assistant GM three? Is this

968
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: assistant coach. I don't think that's the case, but that

969
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 1: would be pretty funny if you did. Okay, last one,

970
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: listen to your take on Ta's interceptions in practice. Totally agree.

971
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: You can't take much away from a system that is

972
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: specifically used to try what does and does not work

973
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: for your players. Regardless of what we saw from two

974
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 1: on the field last year to a still young true

975
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: and with less than a full season under his belt

976
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: coming off an extended period of not playing, the rust

977
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 1: had to be knocked off. Another thing about player performance

978
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: in practice as compared to real game situations is that

979
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: many players are great in practice but can't execute in

980
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: the game. Also very true. We don't ever give much

981
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: attention to players playing well during practice when we know

982
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: they can't produce the same way in the game when

983
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: it counts. The difference is once the season starts, no

984
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 1: one sees practice against except the coaches and the players,

985
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: and the coaches are never going to admit the gay

986
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: sucks and practice, so we don't actually know that information inconsistent.

987
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So basically he was agreeing with me. I

988
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: thought it was a good take. You agree. I think

989
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: that's the only take to be had, I will keep saying,

990
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: though I do not. Just like I wouldn't bet on

991
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: two of being a Pro Bowl quarterback this year, I

992
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: will be stunned if he's actually an above average quarterback.

993
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: I expect probably average, probably a little better than what

994
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: we saw. But I think he's still gonna have some

995
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: real struggles. Small, injury prone, not a great arm. But

996
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: their teams should be better. Um a lot of pressure

997
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: on him. I think he is one of the most

998
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: fascinating players in the league this upcoming season when it

999
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: comes to production, when it just comes to interest, I

1000
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: think no matter what team you're a fan of, it's

1001
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: like you just kind of want to peak a to

1002
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: a like, what does he look at? Especially because the

1003
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: Dolphins are pretty good, right, they should be a team

1004
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: if he is good that makes the playoffs. If I

1005
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: told you Justin Herbert was on the Dolphins, I think

1006
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 1: we'd go that's a twelve win team. That's twelve and five.

1007
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: I'd say they go twelve and five. Tah, you have

1008
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: to be determined. Appreciate everyone listening, Share it with your friends,

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