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Speaker 1: And no Dan and Tie Dan Ribesteine, welcome back. This

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Speaker 1: is the Big twelve Preview Part duh, which is very

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Speaker 1: back here. I am Tayie is Dan. Yeah. Yes, this

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Speaker 1: is part two of the Big twelve Preview. Go back

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Speaker 3: Big twelve Team preview. Should we get into it?

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Speaker 1: Listen, I think all that's fair. Again, this is an

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Speaker 1: So I don't mean to be repetitive, but it's okay

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Speaker 1: Sam Levitt. Whether or not he goes quantum with his

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the BYU game comes to mind. Oh that was

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Speaker 1: I think the offense could be really fun. I got

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Speaker 1: There's something there. His name is Romaine. His name is Romayne. Romayne, calm.

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Speaker 1: if there's anything in that direction. Continue. I think we're

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Speaker 1: gonna see some deep shots in that week zero game

431
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Speaker 1: against Iowa State. I'm curious to see how they can

432
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Speaker 1: tend with it. One of the better schedules in the conference.

433
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Speaker 1: It's spread out really well. There are four big games

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Speaker 1: that I think the termine this season. The first is

435
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Speaker 1: that Week zero game in Dublin. They're at Baylor. Week six,

436
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Speaker 1: they played Texas Tech. Week ten, They're at Utah week thirteen.

437
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Speaker 1: I am going over for k State. I'm going over.

438
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Speaker 1: They're over. Under is eight and a half. The under

439
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Speaker 1: means that are losing all four of those. I don't

440
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Speaker 1: think they will. Of course, given the conversation, you can't

441
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Speaker 1: rule out a dumb loss or some weird sort of

442
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Speaker 1: turnover implosion. But yeah, I am. I think the floor

443
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Speaker 1: is nine and three for k State, and they're the

444
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Speaker 1: ones that I've got coming Flora is nine and three.

445
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Speaker 1: Yeah for me, the floor is nine and three. I

446
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Speaker 1: think they're coming out of this conference going to the playoff.

447
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Speaker 3: All right, So they've got Baylor on the road obviously,

448
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Speaker 3: Iowa stayed in Dublin. They've got the Kansas rivalry game

449
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Speaker 3: on the road a week before Texas Tech. It's definitely

450
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Speaker 3: not a look ahead, but it's the you know, the

451
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Speaker 3: new look Kansas facility.

452
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Speaker 1: That game.

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Speaker 3: Kansas has really had a great shot in last year.

454
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Speaker 3: Maybe they'll be better prepared to start the season this

455
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 3: year at altitude a week after going to Stillwater. So

456
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Speaker 3: two weeks on the road in a row. It's a

457
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Speaker 3: tricky schedule. I still like this schedule. I still like

458
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Speaker 3: Kansas State a lot. I like them a lot more

459
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Speaker 3: than many of these teams on their schedule.

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Speaker 1: That Army game is a little bit weird too. Yeah,

461
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Speaker 1: not as high on Army this year. But I'm not

462
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Speaker 1: super high on Army. It's just I like them. I

463
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Speaker 1: like them. Yeah.

464
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Speaker 3: It's if you throw an interception or cough the ball

465
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Speaker 3: up once on the ground and Army turns that into

466
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Speaker 3: a seventy three minute touchdown drive, that's a short game.

467
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Speaker 3: That's everybody's getting six possessions and that's that.

468
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Speaker 1: A bit of body blow there, Yeah, I hear you.

469
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they have Arizona the week after, but it's a

470
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Speaker 3: short week after Army. Body blow. Short week into the

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Speaker 3: desert in September on the road.

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Speaker 1: And it's gonna be hot. Tie, let's go to Iowa State.

473
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Speaker 1: So you've got ASU over Kansas State. I've got Kansas

474
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Speaker 1: State over Iowa State. Okay. On my side of things,

475
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Speaker 1: Iowa State eleven and three last year, their win totals

476
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Speaker 1: seven and a half. This year I mentioned this last episode.

477
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Speaker 1: You can read about this all over the internet. The

478
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Speaker 1: first double digit win season in the one hundred and

479
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Speaker 1: thirty three year history of the Iowa State football program,

480
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Speaker 1: the best season ever ever ever. It coincides with having

481
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Speaker 1: the best duo of receivers who are no longer there,

482
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Speaker 1: both named Jay, and it showed roc Obeck was really good.

483
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Speaker 1: They won with their with Rocobec's arm. They won in

484
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Speaker 1: spite of a ton of injuries up front, and winning

485
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Speaker 1: that number of games dealing with the injuries they dealt

486
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Speaker 1: with is its own degree of difficulty that we should

487
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Speaker 1: stand up in applot. Oh my god, yeah, absolutely. I

488
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Speaker 1: have three big questions about this seam. I like them

489
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Speaker 1: a lot. By three big questions. The first is we

490
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Speaker 1: know this is a chaos conference. The case for Iowa State,

491
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Speaker 1: I think is very logical. They've got Rock Obec the

492
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Speaker 1: bore back, Carson Hansen, Abu Sama at running back. They've

493
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Speaker 1: got a very experienced line.

494
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Speaker 3: Did very little last year in terms of explosive plays

495
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Speaker 3: and leading this offense continue.

496
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, but a very experienced line, albeit with guys

497
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Speaker 1: that have bounced around, played, you know, a couple different

498
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Speaker 1: positions up front. Dominique Orange is the bull at the

499
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Speaker 1: center of the three three five defense for John Haycock. Okay,

500
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Speaker 1: they're loaded at linebacker. Just on its known, on its own,

501
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Speaker 1: that's enough to cover I think seven and a half

502
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Speaker 1: of Iowa State. But the wrinkle is that situation out wide.

503
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Speaker 1: We can sit here and talk about what they have

504
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Speaker 1: back on both sides of the ball. The ECU transfer in,

505
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Speaker 1: but when you're losing both Jayden Higgins and Jalen Noel,

506
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: that is a lot of production. It's a lot of

507
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Speaker 1: grass to replace. Yeah. If I'm gonna make that point

508
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Speaker 1: when I talk about Arizona State, I gotta make it

509
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Speaker 1: here because those are two eleven hundred yard receivers that

510
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: are off to the NFL DAN Yeah. So I guess

511
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Speaker 1: the easy answer is they probably lean a little bit

512
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Speaker 1: more on the ground game. They feature more sets with

513
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Speaker 1: two tight ends, since that's a relative strength until we

514
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Speaker 1: see it, I'm not totally confident that going back to that,

515
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Speaker 1: and especially since we didn't really see the explosiveness on

516
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Speaker 1: the ground last year, how they kind of work that

517
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Speaker 1: calculus will be interesting to see if they do have

518
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Speaker 1: to lean more on the run until they can develop.

519
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Speaker 1: Some guys out.

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Speaker 3: Wide agree they also want a bunch of close games

521
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Speaker 3: last year, which I'd rather have a team win those

522
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Speaker 3: than not win those. But the question remains, like are

523
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Speaker 3: they going to have that same record in tight come

524
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Speaker 3: to the end of the game one possession type games.

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Speaker 1: This is another question that I have. Okay, bring it up.

526
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Speaker 1: It was my third question on my sheet, but we

527
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Speaker 1: can skip to it now, Dan, because you're getting a

528
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Speaker 1: little bit ahead of me. But that's fine.

529
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Speaker 3: I apologize. This is what we're very simpatico. We're I

530
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Speaker 3: don't know how many miles apart we are, but the.

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Speaker 1: We're cycling, we're on the c electricity is connected. There

532
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Speaker 1: is a bit there's always a bit of a letdown

533
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Speaker 1: a work with Iowa State, I have found and this

534
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Speaker 1: has given me fits because I've been high on Iowa

535
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Speaker 1: State for a couple of years running. Now I called

536
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Speaker 1: this out in the sun Belt preview just as an example.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna mention again. Now, Iowa State goes to Jonesboro,

538
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Speaker 1: Arkansas to play Arkansas State in week three. It's a

539
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Speaker 1: week before or excuse me, a week after the Syhawk

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Speaker 1: rivalry game, which is in Iowa and it's a week

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Speaker 1: before Iowa State goes on by So your like open face,

542
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Speaker 1: let down, look ahead, sandwich.

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Speaker 3: It would be kind of funny if they did the

544
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Speaker 3: Syhawk and Pharmageddon in Dublin. We're just like, just stay there,

545
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Speaker 3: just say that we're good. We're gonna come to you.

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Speaker 1: I am not saying that Iowa State's gonna lose that game,

547
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Speaker 1: but it's a great spot to hammer like a first

548
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Speaker 1: half line o our Kansas State because Arkansas ste Arkansas

549
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Speaker 1: State's not gonna play a look at defense, but they're

550
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Speaker 1: gonna throw it. They got Jalen Rainer. They're a fun

551
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Speaker 1: team on offense. YEP. I quite literally set a reminder

552
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Speaker 1: on my phone about this. This is one example. Iowa State,

553
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: I feel like, is prone to some of these random

554
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: disappearing acts where it feels like they're stuck in the

555
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Speaker 1: mud and they take a loss that they should. We've

556
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Speaker 1: seen this over the years. My second question is can

557
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Speaker 1: they ad avoid some of those land mines? And then

558
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Speaker 1: question third question, the secondary secondary lost a lot. There're

559
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Speaker 1: gonna be a bunch of younger guys back there. They

560
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Speaker 1: have potential, but they're not trustworthy. You know how I

561
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Speaker 1: feel about trust I trust John Haycock to figure it out,

562
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Speaker 1: but he's gonna need the line he's gonna need the linebackers.

563
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Speaker 1: I think they carry this thing for a bit until

564
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Speaker 1: they can sort out what's going on in the back.

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Speaker 1: This is probably the best reason to be skeptical of

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Speaker 1: Iowa State if you are, because there are definitely some

567
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Speaker 1: teams in the schedule that I think are gonna throw

568
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Speaker 1: it on them. Yeah, I mean, that's to me.

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Speaker 3: That's the con learn about Iowa State overall, is what

570
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Speaker 3: is it that's going to get them out of trouble

571
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Speaker 3: if they find themselves in trouble. It's an unproven passing attack.

572
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Speaker 3: Given what they lost at receiver. They couldn't run the

573
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Speaker 3: ball last year with the injuries last year. Situationally, they

574
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Speaker 3: were awful on third.

575
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Speaker 1: Down and in the red zone.

576
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Speaker 3: They were just they couldn't make heads or tails of it,

577
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Speaker 3: and what is it that is leading the way for

578
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Speaker 3: them this year? Being healthier upfront on defense is a

579
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Speaker 3: great start. But yeah, that's the question is in these

580
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Speaker 3: fifty to fifty games, if they have to drive the field,

581
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Speaker 3: if they have to get stops, you know, down thirty

582
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Speaker 3: one to twenty eight and get the ball back, what

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Speaker 3: is it going to take for Iowa State to continue

584
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Speaker 3: those close wins. And by the way, the degree of

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Speaker 3: difficulty loss I think to Texas Tech last year, like

586
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Speaker 3: you could watch the game five minutes left, four minutes left,

587
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Speaker 3: three minutes left, and you're just like, well, there's just

588
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Speaker 3: no way they're going to lose this game. Yeah, like

589
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Speaker 3: this is in the bag and Texas Tech found a

590
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Speaker 3: way that that is a little bit concerning. That's one

591
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Speaker 3: that's a one game sample size, But I'm not there

592
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Speaker 3: with Iowa State being some combination of experienced and with

593
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Speaker 3: pop at this moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned the rushing attack, and again getting back

595
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Speaker 1: to one of my questions, last year is not this year?

596
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: Last year is last year? Who knows for sure, but

597
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: last season they had those targets out wide. Right now

598
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Speaker 1: at time of recording, they don't not that they can

599
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Speaker 1: rely on in the same manner, right, and so I

600
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Speaker 1: like Carson Hanson. Carson Hansen was a bull down in

601
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Speaker 1: the red zone, had eleven touchdowns on the ground last year.

602
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Speaker 1: Abu Sama, we wanted more of that explosiveness out of him.

603
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Speaker 1: He's a tough runner. We didn't really get that. We

604
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Speaker 1: didn't really get that after or from either of those guys.

605
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Speaker 1: Both were under five yards to carry. So we talked

606
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Speaker 1: about the ground game. Yes, taken together, Carson Hanson Abusama

607
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: went over eleven hundred and twelve hundred yards explosive. This

608
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Speaker 1: on the ground is something they're going to need more

609
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Speaker 1: of this season for sure, if they're not going to

610
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Speaker 1: have the targets out wide.

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Speaker 3: By the way, if you want an even deeper sleeper

612
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Speaker 3: than Arkansas State, the Coyotes of South Dakota are taking

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Speaker 3: on Iowa State and they're a pretty damn good team

614
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Speaker 3: on the FCS level. They won ten eleven games last year. Right,

615
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Speaker 3: South Dakota lost in the semis of the FCS playoffs.

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Speaker 1: You're not thinking of South Dakota State, No, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: The South Dakota State is the jack Rabbits. The South

618
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Speaker 3: Dakota Coyotes went eleven and three last year.

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Speaker 1: That's a sandwich spot between the K State teams before

620
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Speaker 1: the Syhawk game. We almost have a double sandwich situation.

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Speaker 1: Then if you want to consider Arkansas State Week three,

622
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Speaker 1: because we got K State Week one on the road

623
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Speaker 1: in Ireland. Yeah, come back home, square off against the

624
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Speaker 1: formidable Coyotes of South Dakota. Stay at home against Iowa

625
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Speaker 1: for the Syhawk game, big rivalry the week after, and

626
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Speaker 1: after that before a bye, go to Jonesboro, Arkansas to

627
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Speaker 1: play the Red Wolves. Yep. It's like a double decker,

628
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: open face look ahead sandwich. Yep they are. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The middle of the schedule is actually pretty nice. Hopefully

630
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Speaker 3: it appears. Arizona at Cincinnati at Colorado BYU. Will see

631
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Speaker 3: how any of those. You know, there's gonna be two

632
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Speaker 3: or three teams that are far feistier than we anticipate

633
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: in this moment and might be in that grouping. But

634
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Speaker 3: the that's followed up with a November. I believe this

635
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Speaker 3: is November featuring ASU at home at TCU and Kansas

636
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Speaker 3: and correct me if I'm wrong. Whooped upon by Kansas

637
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 3: last year? Whoop whoop, so whooped upon that's the correct phrasing.

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Speaker 1: It can be. I don't know. I guess yeah. They

639
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: were whooped upon by the Jayhawks, all right, So I

640
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Speaker 1: just I don't think it's an easy schedule unless their

641
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: act is more together than I think you and I anticipate.

642
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Speaker 1: In mid July, I read to you a quote very

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Speaker 1: quickly before we move on to our next team from

644
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Speaker 1: Leslie Saro. Leslie is the VP of marketing at Sweet Snacking. Quote.

645
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: The pop Tarts Edible mascots work tirelessly to fulfill their

646
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: dreams of being eaten, so we agreed they deserved a

647
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: vacation to watch the previous Pop Tarts Bowl winners play

648
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: in Ireland. Fans in Dublin can expect the mascots to

649
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: show up around town and bring crazy good shenanigans to

650
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: the game itself. We know frosted cinnamon roll and frosted

651
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: strawberry are two previously sacrificed mascots. Would be proud they

652
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: are sending the last two remaining I guess living in

653
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: this universe mascots to the game in Dublin. So you're

654
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: gonna see frosted wild berry and frosted hot fudge in

655
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: and around Dublin around this game. Great that is a

656
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: ridiculous press release. Right, I've never been a pop tart person.

657
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: It's fun though.

658
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm not pop Tart Bowl. The pop Tart

659
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 3: Bowl is creative and interesting. Pop tarts themselves are I

660
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 3: don't just have a donut, have some frost and miniweeds.

661
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 3: I don't know if they want to have processed sugar

662
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 3: for breakfast.

663
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: We could use the sponsorship. Okay, we got to keep

664
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: the lights on type.

665
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: But I'm trying to be honest. I'm to say for

666
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 3: the verballers, Tie, be careful what you said. I don't

667
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 3: just take any dollar.

668
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: Tie.

669
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: I'm a man of great integrity. I appreciate what whoever

670
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 3: the marketing firm behind the pop Tarts Bowl has done.

671
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 3: Come at us Kellogg's. I'm I'll sell frost in miniwheats.

672
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 1: I do like frosted any weights. Yeah, they're terrific.

673
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 3: You want Hostess Donuts presents the solid verbal. You want

674
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 3: to slap your logo on our great let's talk.

675
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: I would like some of those Dunkin Donuts mini's like

676
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: the Munchkins. Yeah, the munchkins, Oh my god.

677
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: You're delicious. Youngest son opted for a mountain of Munchkins.

678
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 3: At his birthday party instead of cake.

679
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: It's great. All right, let's move gears. Okay, let's shift

680
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: gears here. Let's talk about your team, America's team, Texas Tech.

681
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Texas Tech. Are you ready, ty, I'm ready.

682
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: We offer you the bond of family that very few

683
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 2: oil men can understand. No matter what the others promised

684
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: to do, and it comes to the showdown, they won't

685
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: be there. Now, you have a great chance here. Bear

686
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: in mind, you can lose it all if you're not careful.

687
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: I can guarantee to start drilling and to put up

688
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 2: the cash to back my word.

689
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: How long does this sound? That's it? I did those

690
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: four different sounds. And I know what you're thinking. Pretty

691
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: rich of the guy who roots for Oregon with the

692
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: most notable and notorious benefactor to make fun of Texas

693
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: Tech and go t Campbell for spending all this money

694
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: in the portal. And to that, I say, yeah, you're

695
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: probably right. I don't know. It's all funny to me.

696
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: Pretty rich this guy over here, we did promise sounds

697
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: from there will be blood. Yeah, of course, I mean

698
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: a football program funded by an oil baron is much

699
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: funnier than somebody who already runs a or I used

700
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: to run and founded a sports company. An oil baron

701
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: running a football program is great. It is great. Objectively,

702
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: it is great. Eight and a half's the win total.

703
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: They went eight and five last year, won six games

704
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: in conference. As I said, this is the most hype

705
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: I can ever remember there being on Texas Tech. And

706
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: that's for a couple reasons, not the least of which

707
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: is what they did in the portal twenty one transfers

708
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven, ranked as the second best transfer

709
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: class in the nation. They spent this offseason, they continue

710
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 1: to spend trying to build this thing up. So it's exciting.

711
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: It's certainly exciting what they did here in advance of

712
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: this season. But I'm going to reiterate what I said

713
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: on the last show. The real benefits going to come

714
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 1: down the line, and this could just be the start

715
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: of what's to come for Texas Tech. So I think

716
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: if you're a Tech fan, this is really exciting where

717
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: this program is gone. Sure, the portal strategy in and

718
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: of itself, though, feels very willy fritzy to me. And

719
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: I know we didn't talk about this yet, not in

720
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: great detail, because we even't talked about Houston. We'll do

721
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: that next episode. This is a great transfer class, and

722
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are gonna look at

723
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: it and they won't recognize the names of most of

724
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: these guys. Oh are you not up to date on

725
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: Stanford's twenty twenty four front seven. I could talk about

726
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: David Bailey TOOMBOO in the face, but I'm mysel But

727
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: did you know who David Bailey was last November? No?

728
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 1: Did anybody right? Yeah? No, I'm gonna be honest. No. Yeah,

729
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: but this is a class that had a lot of

730
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: experience starting elsewhere, and it was definitely targeted to make

731
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: things better along the lines, to give them depth, replace

732
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: what they lost in a guy like a Taj Brooks

733
00:38:55,640 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: the running back. This is the all Costco transfer clabs

734
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: quality in bulk, quality in bulk, That's what Texas Tech did.

735
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: Not a sponsor, could be not as absolutely could be

736
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: a sponsor. Yeah, I got a lot of Costco thoughts. Continue.

737
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: The defense is what I am watching most, Dan. I'm

738
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: watching it because sheil Wood comes over from Houston, where

739
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: he improved the defense right away, big jump forward. This

740
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: was the ninety second best defense in the country last

741
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 1: year per the sp plus even a modest jump into

742
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: like the sixties, I think would be a huge deal.

743
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,959
Speaker 1: Eighty eight per D analytics per D analytics. Okay, still

744
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: not good right now, It's right there, not good at all. Yeah,

745
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: this is where the transfers, like the aforementioned David Bailey,

746
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: Lee Hunter, Romolo Height, That's where these guys come in.

747
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: So I think the potential for this team to have

748
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: a real, honest to goodness pass rush is kind of

749
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: something that we should be talking more about, and potentially,

750
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: given where they've been, that would be a game changer.

751
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm really watching for that this season.

752
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be good team. As mentioned a

753
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: thousand times on this show, they beat both teams that

754
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 3: played for the Big twelve championship last year in Iowa State,

755
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: in Arizona State. There's a ton of experience in that backfield,

756
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 3: Quentin Joiner experience at USC, Darren Morton experience at Texas Tech.

757
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: I think he's fine. I think there are times he's

758
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: very good. I think there are times where he disappears,

759
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 3: especially against the better teams on Texas Tech schedule. I

760
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 3: think they were dragged in a good way to the

761
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 3: end zone a number of times and dragged through successful

762
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 3: drives by ToJ.

763
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: Brooks. I think Quentin Joyner is good. Is he like

764
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: put the full team on his shoulders? Good like TODJ.

765
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 3: Brooks seemed to be the last couple of years TBD.

766
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: I like the receivers. I think there's potential at receiver.

767
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: We'll see.

768
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 3: I mean, they seem to have addressed the offensive line successfully.

769
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 3: It's what Howard Sampson is, the new left tackle that

770
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 3: came over from North Carolina who was very good for

771
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: the Heels last year. You're right about the defense being

772
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 3: probably more important because there's just enough there on offense

773
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: that they're going to score points. And the defense has

774
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 3: taken steps forward, but was pretty atrocious cin certain elements

775
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: last year. So if the defense is functional, if they

776
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 3: stop big plays, if the secondary is successfully addressed, when

777
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: we see all how these transfers do, they absolutely could

778
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 3: win the conference.

779
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: But the issue with me with Texas Tech is there

780
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: are so many pieces that need to come together on

781
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. That's it, man, that that's it.

782
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: There's a lot, right, there's a lot here that it

783
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: all has to click in order for this to go

784
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: off totally, and again I'll turn the camera back on myself.

785
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: Oregon is a team who has gone after a number

786
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: of transfers at all sorts of position and has counted

787
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: on them. I think their overall talent level is higher

788
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: than Texas Tech in terms of what was already on

789
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: the roster, So it can work. Texas Tech can bring

790
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: in quality in bulk and win this conference. To me,

791
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: the question remains one. Is Texas Tech a place that

792
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: people can win and finish ranked as it happened in

793
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: sixteen years? Is Joey McGuire the coach to do it

794
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: every week without giving up? Do they have a game

795
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: where they gave up like sixty points to Baylor last year?

796
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: Right that they don't have that random stupid week or

797
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: three stupid weeks. The defense seems to be fixed. I

798
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: saw the story, and again I don't care how much

799
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: teams spend. If you have the money and it's allowed

800
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: to you're allowed to spend the money and it's going

801
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 1: to players who are earning this on the field. Great.

802
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 3: It seems like that's something everybody wants, right, that the

803
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 3: players want it, that the people paying want it. Texas Tech,

804
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 3: who with Texas Tech fan is going to be upset

805
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 3: that they're doing everything they can to win. So that's great.

806
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 3: It's just the question of all of these new pieces

807
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 3: at the same time being coached by Joey Maguire, who

808
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 3: I happen to really like as a head coach. I'd

809
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 3: like for him to take the next step because it's

810
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: seems to be a good story given his Texas roots.

811
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: It's just the number of questions.

812
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: It's more of a quantity of question thing than quality

813
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: of the transfers coming in or anything like that.

814
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: And so for that reason, I'm out. No.

815
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 3: For that reason, I'm just not fully there yet. I'm

816
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 3: going to need to see what this Texas Tech experiment

817
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 3: looks like as it's come together before feeling all of

818
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 3: the tingles.

819
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. The other thing that we should mention, and I

820
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: alluded to this yesterday, but they hired Mac Leftwich as

821
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator, comes over from Texas State State.

822
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, who had like a top fifteen national offense last

823
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 3: year in points per Drive, Broyle's nominee.

824
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: In one season they ran a top twenty offense. My

825
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: sticking point with a lot of the previews that I've

826
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: read about Tech a little too much panning of the

827
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: fact that Baron Morton has had real health issues, right,

828
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: and he's sort of just been okay, a little fresh seasons,

829
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: a little fragile. Last year was better, don't get me wrong,

830
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: off season shoulder surgery, new coordinator. I think it's realistic

831
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: that he'll put up better numbers this season. I think

832
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: that's the best supporting cast he's had, and he does

833
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: have a lot of experience. But Dan, this is where

834
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: I tell you something else. Okay, if this is gonna work, Yes,

835
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: we need a little bit of that Morton season salt. Dan,

836
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: that's not bad. That's not bad. Not a sponsor, could

837
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: be we need a little for him. We need a

838
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: little bit of that Morton season salt to really elevate

839
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: the flavor profile of this offense and go next level.

840
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: I was thinking maybe we need some Morton saltiness, Like,

841
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: we need a little bit more aggression from him, a

842
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: little more a veteran. He's a veteran, he's seasoned. Yeah,

843
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: we need the seasoned salt. Okay, that could be an

844
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: nil opportunity, Baron, That's what I'm saying for him. Get

845
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: Cody to call his contacts.

846
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they Okay, if they start six, seven and zero

847
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 3: and maybe he has like a crazy game winning throw

848
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: against ASU on the road October eighteenth.

849
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,479
Speaker 1: That's the season style raised, that's the season salt.

850
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 3: Then you get that Morton's deal. Okay, So I'm one

851
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 3: out of two on this episode with these that's not bad.

852
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: That's okay. We're still working.

853
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't see like Kansas might be a

854
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: look ahead spot before ASU. Kansas State on the road

855
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 3: is going to be tough.

856
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: I've got nine and three. I've got nine and three.

857
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: I think they lose at Utah, I think they'll lose

858
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: at Arizona State, and I think they lose at Kansas State.

859
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: Those are my three. I like this team a lot.

860
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be the mix, but those

861
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: three road games in particular are going to be tough.

862
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: So if you're what are you looking at as their

863
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 3: biggest single like position group or element question like their

864
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: secondary or giving up big plays which they did last year.

865
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: Oh, I think it's they got to get a pass rush.

866
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: When they addressed it, obviously, they spent on a defensive line,

867
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: they spent on it, they knew it was a concern.

868
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: I want to see if it actually materializes, because some

869
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: of us are old enough to remember a team like

870
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: a Florida State last year, which supposedly built up the

871
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: best defensive line in college football and they went missing.

872
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: So just because they say it and just because everybody

873
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: is excited about it, doesn't mean it's actually gonna happen.

874
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: I got to see this before.

875
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: I'm willing to believe it in terms of what their

876
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: schedule looks like against what you and I think a

877
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 3: lot of people perceive their weakness or weaknesses to be

878
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 3: given where the defense was last year, new defensive coordinator,

879
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 3: new personnel, everything like that, but still needs to be corrected.

880
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: They don't play a lot of like sure thing downfield

881
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 3: threat passing offenses its schedule.

882
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: They don't. It's Oregon State and Utah and Houston and

883
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: Kansas is starting over at receiver. I believe ASU, yes, dangerous,

884
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State probably not. Kansas State. Big questions BYU, big questions, UCF,

885
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: big questions, West Virginia big questions. So it's quite like

886
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: there's no Baylor on this schedule, right, So, which, by

887
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: the way, can sidebar No butt game, no butt game,

888
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: no no butt game. Okay, that's a.

889
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 3: Decision Big twelve. It actually works out really nicely schedule

890
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 3: wise in terms of quarterbacks and passing offenses.

891
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: Faced shall we go on to Baylor. Let's Baylor was

892
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: eight and five last year. Their win total is seven

893
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: and a half. I want to believe the championship pipe here.

894
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: There is real championship pipe for Baylor. The combo of

895
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: the defense and the schedule for me are a little

896
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: too much to get over. Okay, I am cautiously optimistic

897
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: about this team. I've got him at eight and four.

898
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: I think there's potential for more. But I'm just it's

899
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: stuck in my cross kind of like with Texas Tech. Honestly,

900
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: the question is not so much offense, it's defense. Right.

901
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 1: I think we can agree at this point, at least

902
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 1: for the moment. It changes every six months. David Randa's

903
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: seat has cooled, or would you agree with that for

904
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: the time being.

905
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 3: If the defense was a nightmare last year and he

906
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 3: did take over play calling duties and it's once again bad,

907
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 3: it becomes a situation of what is it that you

908
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: say you do here?

909
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? If the defense is a little Thomas mccowski situation, yeah.

910
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 3: Right, So that's that's the I'm like, if you're going

911
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 3: into a season with a tough schedule and a defense

912
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 3: that needs to improve, and they addressed it in the portal,

913
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 3: not as aggressively as Texas Tech, but they did address it,

914
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 3: especially upfront, and I think we they have an Ohio

915
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 3: State transfer coming in at corner, Colvin Simpson Hunt. I

916
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 3: want to say they're doing their best to address it.

917
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 3: They spent to try and address it. It could be

918
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 3: a situation where the offense is a little too successful,

919
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 3: that scores a little bit too quickly, or little two

920
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 3: feast or famine.

921
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: That's the problem. So the defense is definitely the wild card.

922
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 1: And you're right they added some help from the portal.

923
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: The past defense was a trope. They got eaten alive

924
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: by chunk plays a year ago trying to boost it.

925
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: Keaton Thomas is still there, which helps the He was

926
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: the linebacker who had a one hundred and fourteen tackles

927
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: last year, which sounds like a lot you can build

928
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: around a guy like that. Okay, I think the calculation

929
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: with Baylor is pretty straightforward, and it's the defense is

930
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: going to dictate the team stealing not unlike Texas Tech.

931
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: There's a lot of overlap there the issue that I

932
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: think I am grappling with. The offense is going to

933
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: be friggin awesome. You'd think so. You would think so.

934
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: Last year was a huge success under Jake Spavitoll and

935
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: it's possibly going to be even better this season. Sawyer Robertson,

936
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: who was kind of an afterthought before last season because

937
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: I remember it was like the Kwan Finn. We were

938
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: talking about the Kwan Finn. Yeah before that Blake shape

939
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 1: and yeah, Sawyer Robertson emerged as arguably the best quarterback

940
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 1: in the whole damn Conference. By the end of the year.

941
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: He had twenty two touchdown passes in his final eight

942
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: games of the season. The backfield was also a real

943
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: big success story. Bryce and Washington became the best freshman

944
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: running back in Baylor history, going over one thousand yards

945
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: twelve touchdown. Dawson Pendergrast, another name, added seven hundred more

946
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: yards on the ground. This is a good quarterback, a

947
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: good running back duo, one of the better offensive lines

948
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: in the country. Just hit stop. That's good. That's a

949
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: good starting point for a spav offense that I think

950
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: he's going to be able to ratch it up again.

951
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: So agreat. I like where they're at with that. I

952
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: think if Baylor is good enough on offense to win

953
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: the conference, this is where we start relying on Dave

954
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: Randa and the quote unquote brilliant defensive mind. Yeah. I

955
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: don't want to count him out. It's not a quote

956
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: unquote he has fielded too many good defenses for us

957
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: to not think he can figure this out. But it's

958
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: quote unquote because the pass defense was so terrible last year.

959
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: Let's throw it up. There's more work to do here.

960
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: Here is the if I can pull out the flawfinder

961
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: here for a secon, I'm going to introduce my flawfindal Okay,

962
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 1: thank you, Lorenzo holy Hell. The schedule September is September

963
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: to remember, yeah, Lee Hell. In the first half of

964
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: the season, Baylor has Auburn, SMU, Arizona State, Kansas State,

965
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: and TCU. That's not even mentioning that they're going to

966
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: face two teams that made the College Football Playoff in

967
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: Arizona State and SMU. Okay added context there. That is

968
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: a murderer's row and it's tough, especially for a defense

969
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: that struggled last year against the freaking pass that's a problem.

970
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: So the whole game with Baylor this season for me,

971
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: how much is the defense going to improve? Can the

972
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: defense improve enough that it's not going to sabotage what

973
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 1: should be one of the better offenses in the whole conference?

974
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: You're right, I mean, you are right.

975
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: The schedule's tough, the defense hopefully is improved with better

976
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 3: personnel on all three levels. And I don't know, I

977
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 3: think they are squarely in the conversation for the most

978
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 3: entertaining team in the conference.

979
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 1: Oh so easily, easily if they.

980
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 3: Can win some forty one thirty eights instead of losing

981
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 3: forty one thirty eights and close games. And the schedule

982
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 3: after that first half, because it's what Oklahoma State is before.

983
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State is an incredible sandwich spot. By the way,

984
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 3: in Stillwater against Baylor, and that's always like house of

985
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 3: horrors for Baylor. Good teams, bad teams. Whatever, Baylor and Stillwater,

986
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 3: there's a scar tissue there. It's between Arizona State and

987
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: Kansas State. If I'm reading this schedule.

988
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: Card, that is a letdown look ahead sandwich scene. One. Yeah,

989
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: in a tough place to play in a game that's

990
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: been weird you're right.

991
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 3: If the defense isn't fully fixed halfway through the season,

992
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 3: they're on the road in Fort Worth in the rivalry spot.

993
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 3: That's tough. At least they get Utah at home, but

994
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 3: Utah is probably not a team that's going to fully

995
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: take advantage of whatever Baylor might have. That weakness on

996
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 3: the seconds second half is demonstrably it's more manageable for sure.

997
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 3: The final five October twenty fifth on at Sincy home

998
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 3: against UCF home against Utah, at Arizona home against Houston.

999
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: So those are five games that feel gettable in my view.

1000
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: Utah will be tough, but otherwise five games very gettable

1001
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: for that to me with this team and their offense,

1002
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: feel like they should be almost gimmes in the win column.

1003
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: By the way sidebar.

1004
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 3: As you know, Big twelve reputation sort of shifts, you know,

1005
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 3: before it's all offense, no defense, and then we had

1006
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 3: a bunch of interesting defenses, you know, highlighted by what

1007
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 3: Jim Knowles in Oklahoma State for a few years there.

1008
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 3: Not that it's shifted in any one direction dramatically in

1009
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 3: this moment, maybe it's shifted back to offense and we're

1010
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: talking about a bunch of teams with big defensive questions,

1011
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 3: really strong and deep quarterback conference these this year, it

1012
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 3: looks like, especially the top half, like not elite incredible

1013
00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 3: NFL field, but quality, fun, interesting, varied styles and like

1014
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 3: you were talking about, you know, maybe by the end

1015
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 3: of the year last year, sorry, Robertson was the best

1016
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,919
Speaker 3: or one of the best quarterbacks. We're also talking about

1017
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 3: Sam Levitt and should Or Sanders last year. Like it

1018
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 3: was a really fun grouping last year, and it appears

1019
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: to be this year as well, which I think just

1020
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 3: highlights the entertainment factor here.

1021
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: And we're not even gonna talk about Josh Hoover on

1022
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: this episode. We'll talk about in the next episode. He's

1023
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: another one. He's another one who quietly has emerged as

1024
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: one of the better, one of the better arms in

1025
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: the conference. For sure. We got three teams left here, Dan,

1026
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 1: all right, where are we going? And they are West

1027
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: Virginia UCF in Arizona. They are on the opposite end

1028
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: of the Big twelve spectrum for a whole multitude of reasons.

1029
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: Two of them have new coaches, one decided to retain

1030
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: their coach. Why don't we start with West Virginia. Okay,

1031
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: let me start with this on West Virginia. Okay, I'm ready.

1032
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: How many previews do we read? More? Putting this together

1033
00:54:58,520 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: as many as we can.

1034
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 3: Try to watch some games from last year to understand

1035
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 3: the context of what fans are going through. I try

1036
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: to reread all the numbers, advanced, normal, whatever. There's a

1037
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 3: lot of information downloading to our pe brains. Would you

1038
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 3: say that by now, after doing this for all these years,

1039
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 3: that we have.

1040
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: Generally gotten used to the format of previews, we know

1041
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: what to expect when we're reading previews. We know how

1042
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: to kind of decipher them and interpret what the authors

1043
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: are saying. Is that fair to say that is?

1044
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 3: There are very few surprises with regard to interview research,

1045
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 3: although as the transfer portal takes hold this year, I

1046
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 3: learned that there is a Limestone University. I think UCF

1047
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 3: has a receiver coming in from a D two school

1048
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 3: named Limestone University. So those are always a surprise.

1049
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 1: Whenever someone lists a punter as a strength, that either

1050
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: means the team is going to be really good or

1051
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: really bad. Okay, there is no in between. If you

1052
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: are listing a punter, yeah in your preview as a strength.

1053
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: I think I know how this is going to go

1054
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: for West Virginia this year. Okay, I think this is

1055
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: a ginormous rebuild. It is that, that's for sure. But

1056
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: Oliver Straw, boss punter, he's back and he is ready

1057
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: to take the next step and become an NFL punter.

1058
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 1: So there's that. This is the state of West Virginia

1059
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: football right now. But Neil Brown's out, got rid of

1060
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 1: him finally, rich Rod back in. It is a full friggin'

1061
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: line change. Fifty two incoming transfers. That is second only

1062
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: to Purdue by two. Purdue at fifty four, Yeah, that

1063
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: place is emptied out, completely emptied out. The fifty two number,

1064
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: by the way, is eleven more than the next closest,

1065
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: which are North Carolina, Oklahoma State and ucf Fifty two

1066
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 1: is also, just for context, further context, that is equivalent

1067
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: to what Dion brought with him his first year at Colorado.

1068
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: So remember how big of a story that was. Maybe

1069
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 1: it's commonplace now in the Portal era, everybody's doing it,

1070
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: but remember how big of a deal that was and

1071
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: how much we talked about it. Fifty two is a

1072
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: big old number, and that's what rich Trod's got this year.

1073
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: That's ten plus starting basketball teams. That's right, that's exactly right,

1074
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: double digit starting basketball teams coming in for a line

1075
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: change in Morgantown. We know who Richrod is at this point.

1076
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: We know what he's going to do. He's going to

1077
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: try to build a beast of a ground assault, and

1078
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: I think especially this year, because that's one of their

1079
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: relative strengths. I just don't know how you handicap a

1080
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: team with fifty ten new players.

1081
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 3: Like I like the Hires, Yeah, like they need to

1082
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 3: be evaluated in the medium term. Like as we see

1083
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 3: what recruiting looks like two three cycles in both high

1084
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 3: school and portal, we see the Hires again. Zach very

1085
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 3: much a defensive mind in demand.

1086
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: You know what I found surprising about him? Please? Surprisingly enough,

1087
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: Zach ally wants to run more of an aggressive, attacking defense.

1088
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Finally somebody has the guts to say it.

1089
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: They're gonna try some stuff. It might not work, but

1090
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: I think it'll be fun to watch. I like Jimmery

1091
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: Robinson had a beast of a season for UTSA, was

1092
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: first team All American. He's there. They gave up something

1093
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: like thirty two points per game last season. There's a

1094
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: pretty good chance it's gonna end up around there again

1095
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: this year. But they're gonna try some stuff fin like

1096
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: Zach Glly, So there's that. I'm with you on that

1097
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: front from what I can tell. The other interesting bit

1098
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: here with West Virginia and how they're gonna build their offense.

1099
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna fly the whole plane or build

1100
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: the whole plane out of Jaheem White. Not the worst

1101
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: idea little to healthy five seven five Speaking of bowling balls,

1102
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: he is going to get a steady diet. They're going

1103
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: to keep him as happy as humanly possible so that

1104
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't transfer go pro after the season, right, I

1105
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: think that's the plan if you are wondering. Also what

1106
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: happened to CJ. Donaldson who they used to have. He's

1107
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: playing for Ohio State now the yeah playing for Ohio State.

1108
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: So but otherwise, like huge rebuild along the lines, unclear

1109
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: who is getting targets out wide? Unclear who's going to

1110
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: be the quarterback? Right? This is a huge control al

1111
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: delete situation. Dan who transferred to Jalen Henderson from A

1112
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: and M. Jalen Henderson from A and M or it's

1113
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: going to be Nico, Nico Marshall, Marishall, I think it's

1114
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: Mark y'all. Mark y'all.

1115
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 3: I think I don't know right in so dot Com

1116
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 3: one of those two guys going to be the quarterback.

1117
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 3: Also a tough schedule, marky All, Yeah, tough schedule. This

1118
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,439
Speaker 3: is a foreign eight team. It's four and eight team.

1119
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 3: It's a rebuild.

1120
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: But you know what, though I don't often like retreads, Yeah,

1121
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: rich Rod knows West Virginia. Rich Rod had a ton

1122
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: of success at West Virginia, knows what it takes to

1123
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: win their rich Rod coming back to West Virginia has

1124
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: I think animated the fan base. I don't think it's

1125
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: a bad move at all to bring rich Rod back,

1126
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: and I'm excited to see what he does in year

1127
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: two and three. So the good news is for this hire.

1128
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 3: And if you do like re treads, don't like red treads,

1129
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 3: whatever is. He hasn't just been sitting at a media

1130
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:20,439
Speaker 3: job for like seven years since leaving Arizona. Jacksonville State

1131
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 3: was good, it was a good team. He was a

1132
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 3: coordinator at what Ole Miss and Jacksonville State. Like he

1133
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 3: wants to coach, He wants that grind, He wants to

1134
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 3: produce offenses. He wants to build programs. So there is

1135
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 3: something that seems energizing about rich Rod. Obviously, you know

1136
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 3: you're getting the quotes of like I never should have left.

1137
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 3: This is home, and that's smart to say. And the

1138
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 3: recruiting he did at West Virginia was terrific all those

1139
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 3: years ago, especially up and down the southeast. So I

1140
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 3: think right now it's it's not an experiment, but it's

1141
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 3: sort of a fascination.

1142
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: What does this look like?

1143
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 3: How long is it going to take to become something?

1144
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 3: And what does that something looked like as compared to

1145
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 3: last time. Yeah, I'm entertained by it. Good good for

1146
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 3: wu Oh.

1147
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: Speaking of quotes, quote don't take the wrong job. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1148
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: well there's that quote too. I said I wouldn't leave

1149
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: unless it was someplace you could win a national championship,

1150
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: and then he decided on Nebraska. I got tugged in

1151
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: a direction to try and help my alma mater and

1152
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: didn't really want to do it. It wasn't a good move.

1153
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm lucky to get back to a place where I

1154
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: was a lot happier. End quote that's from Scotti. Frost

1155
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: got some headlines with that one in response to a

1156
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: question from our Frank Chris Venini out at the Athletic. Yeah,

1157
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: I did not read enough on this because I have

1158
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: been nose down deep in the weeds here studying preview content.

1159
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that quote went overwhell with Nebraska people.

1160
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 1: Or maybe it did. I don't know, but man, what

1161
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: a what a weird thing to say. It's strange, and

1162
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: we talked about this before. I'm okay with honesty. The

1163
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: phrasing probably could have been improved, but it sounds like

1164
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: those bridges were long since charred between Scott Frost and Nebraska.

1165
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

1166
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 3: He appreciates a hot mic and the you know, the

1167
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 3: spirit of what he was saying was I had it good.

1168
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 3: I never should have left. This place is special, and

1169
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 3: maybe he should have thrown into like, you know, Nebraska's

1170
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 3: always going to hold a special place in my heart.

1171
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 3: You know, personally, I'm a little bummed it didn't work

1172
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 3: out there, but I think I'm just a UCF guy.

1173
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 3: That's probably the spirit of what he intended to say.

1174
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 3: But also he went on some he dipped into that

1175
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 3: emotional well a little bit.

1176
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm good with that's great, makes me happy. Oh,

1177
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: it makes us happy. Absolutely fantasy thing. Actually if I could,

1178
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: oh please. UCF has sixty seven new players this year,

1179
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: an entire roster in flux. But in reading the preview content,

1180
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: the coach quote really likes the talent on the roster

1181
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: and course, of course, of course, my favorite thing that

1182
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: I found reading preview mags this year, every coach loves

1183
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: their talent. You got a bunch of guys in here

1184
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: who are just going to compete for starting roles, and

1185
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: I think they're going to catch a lot of people

1186
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: by surprise. Here is the harsh reality though for UCF

1187
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: two new schemes. They lose RJ. Harvey out of the backfield,

1188
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: who was a bull. Yeah, rebuilding out wide, it's a

1189
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: rebuild up front other than at left tackle, basically a

1190
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: rebuild on defense to a very serious degree in the secondary. Also,

1191
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: their quarterback is going to be inconsistent, likely with Raven

1192
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: Taven Jackson, who I love from Indiana, or Jae Curry.

1193
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: You could just use the word love however you want.

1194
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: Words don't always have meeting, Okay, Okay, not talking about this, okay,

1195
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: or Jae Curry Brown Jacurry Brown by the way I

1196
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: think was my quarterback at Miami in our college football

1197
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: dynasty that we run out a for ballers dot com.

1198
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: Still not but I got a couple of good years

1199
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: out of him. Didn't win anyky, but I got a

1200
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: couple of good years.

1201
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying. In NCAA twenty five he was

1202
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 3: on the Miami roster.

1203
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: He transferred. I took him in as a transfer. I

1204
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: took him under both we took him back. Yeah, I

1205
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: took him back. Oh my, look at you in your forgetting.

1206
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: I lost cam Ward. I needed a guy Ja Curry

1207
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: Brown step up. He was a great, real bull at

1208
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: the ball, couldn't throw, but uh, we got an Alex

1209
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: Grinch defense here. We got a tough schedule. I don't

1210
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: think you see it's going to be good. I do

1211
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: think there are plenty of reasons to watch him be entertained,

1212
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: because this is all going to be a big old

1213
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: experiment in year one.

1214
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's okay. And basically what they need to

1215
01:04:55,560 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 3: establish is that they are a good home players leaving

1216
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 3: the three big schools in Florida.

1217
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: Yes, that the Gator.

1218
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 3: Doesn't work out, Seminal doesn't work out. Caine doesn't work out,

1219
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 3: and they have been on this roster. There are guys

1220
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 3: you mentioned, Garry Brown, I Jelick Kelly, is that Hey

1221
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 3: Brownce I don't know, from Miami who had a nice

1222
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 3: freshman year. They need to establish that sort of home

1223
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 3: base for portal players from the state of Florida who

1224
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 3: went to the Big ten or the Big twelve or

1225
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 3: something and want to come back. Obviously, I know they

1226
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 3: are a Big twelve team within the state of Florida,

1227
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 3: but you know what I'm saying, they just need to

1228
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 3: show some bite, some fight, and anything else that rhymes.

1229
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 3: I think they are interesting. It's weird that Scott Frost

1230
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 3: is back on a certain level with everything that's gone

1231
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 3: on since.

1232
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: But I don't know. It didn't work with Gus Miles on.

1233
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: But they're excited. Everybody's excited about this. They want to

1234
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: hope the money is excited. Okay, the quote didn't affect them.

1235
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: They're thrialties back. Yeah, and you know I will say this,

1236
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm dunking on the preview bags a little bit and

1237
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: Scott Frost a little bit here. He likes the talent.

1238
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: The previews like to write about him liking the talent.

1239
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: I like some of the talent. I talked a lot

1240
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: about Tavin Jackson. I called him Raven Tavian. I know

1241
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: you just like rhymes, though I do like rhymes. I

1242
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,439
Speaker 1: think the offense is going to play real quick, which

1243
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: is fun. We're gonna have a motion creates a motion

1244
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: situation here with this offense where there's just a lot

1245
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: going on all the time, and the quarterbacks on the

1246
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: roster I think are playmakers. Dwayne Thomas is a five

1247
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: to eight slack guy from Charlotte. He is a burner

1248
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: and it would not surprise me at all if he

1249
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: turns into one of these gadget guys where they just

1250
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: find ways to get him involved. I read a lot

1251
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: of good things about Waydeen Charles to the freshman who's

1252
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 1: gonna get some time out wide. So I don't hate

1253
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: those guys. I don't hate what they did upfront on defense.

1254
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: The line is probably gonna be okay. I just don't

1255
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:58,919
Speaker 1: think it's that good of a roster, and it's gonna

1256
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: be a transition here with a new It's not there, Yeah,

1257
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: it's not there yet, but you know, there are some

1258
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: reasons to be excited, not the least of which is

1259
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: they have now codified the Bounce House. That's true. It

1260
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 1: is the Akraschuer Bounce House. As the name of the

1261
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: stadium previously, I believe it was the f b C

1262
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: Mortgage Stadium. Doesn't have the same bite to it.

1263
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 3: What's the other thing that's got you all a flutter?

1264
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 3: It's that the possibility of a space themed trophy game

1265
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 3: against Houston the two NASA that's what you mentioned that

1266
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 3: to me?

1267
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that there was buzz about it. Yeah, yeah,

1268
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,439
Speaker 1: and that just that scratched you where you are. Let's

1269
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: do it. I'm ready. I'm on four and eight for

1270
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: UCF this year. Yeah, that sounds about right. Final team

1271
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 1: is the Arizona Wildcats. Dan, isn't this where Mama Rubinstein

1272
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: went to school? It is. I'm a legacy. I'm a

1273
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: Cat legacy. I love Tucson. Also Ari Wasserman Arizona. Yeah,

1274
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: of course.

1275
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 3: And Eugene Edgerson, role player on the nineteen ninety seven

1276
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 3: National Championship basketball team. Right, that was a great team,

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Speaker 3: by the way, Mike Baby Miles Simon, really fun.

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Speaker 1: Simon says, championship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the old name I had, the I had the character,

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Speaker 3: the caricature shirt, the championship shirt Lude Olsen right there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's snow White Hare Big Cats guy. Yeah, Jason

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Speaker 1: Terry right after love It. Yeah, okay. I will reiterate

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Speaker 1: what we said last episode. The the buzz around Brent

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Speaker 1: Brennan was like non existent down the stretch last season,

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Speaker 1: and we heard rumblings that they were wondering isy and

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Speaker 1: over his head. Should we move away options? Yeah? Yeah, Instead,

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Speaker 1: they I think just invested into Nil, which is honestly

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Speaker 1: a model we have seen work elsewhere. I think there

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Speaker 1: are two ways to look at Arizona this year. If

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Speaker 1: you're the optimist, you could say, well, they're bringing back

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Speaker 1: no Fafida. I've seen a lot of assumption out there

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Speaker 1: that he's just gonna revert back to the form we

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Speaker 1: saw two years ago that last year was an off year.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. He's going to snap back into form.

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Speaker 1: They also have two new coordinators, Set Deggi Danny Gonzalez.

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Speaker 1: I think we like Danny Gonzalez a lot. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure about Set Deggi.

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Speaker 3: Weird coordinator moves last year to be clear from Arizona

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Speaker 3: with Duyna Quina. Oh god, I'm blanking on his name.

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Speaker 3: What's his name, the Syracuse head coach Dino Baby, you

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Speaker 3: know Babers.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I beat Google. By the way, now, I

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Speaker 1: was having like Syracuse coach fire two thousand Babers. I

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Speaker 1: wasn't typing. I have my hands over my face. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know. Uh. I like the secondary sm pieces back

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Speaker 1: and total, they've got like nine starters in total if

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Speaker 1: you count the transfers on defense. Could be optimistic about

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01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: hitting the reset button. The fact that Brent Brennan had

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Speaker 1: a pretty good track record before he got to Tuson.

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Speaker 1: These are all things I think you could gravitate towards

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Speaker 1: if you're trying to be an optimist. But if you're

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Speaker 1: a skeptic like I am, right, I think you're going

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01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: to side eye the idea that Noah Fafeeda is just

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Speaker 1: going to get better after losing one of his best

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Speaker 1: friends and maybe the best player of all time at

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Speaker 1: the program and TAC like suddenly that's just gonna He's

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Speaker 1: gonna snap back into form. I think you also look

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Speaker 1: at the roster and say, what am I trusting here? Right?

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Speaker 1: And the schedule is tough. It's a really tough schedule,

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Speaker 1: so I just think there's more working against the optimism,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to dunk on Brent Brennan or Arizona.

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Speaker 1: I generally root for Arizona, but I'm just more of

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Speaker 1: a skeptic this year. I think you've got to have

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Speaker 1: a coach that's an escape artist to avoid the wrath.

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Speaker 1: As I said last episode of year two, year zero

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Speaker 1: essentially coming in year two, which is what this looks

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Speaker 1: like to me. I don't have faith that Fafit is

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Speaker 1: going to improve. Even if he does, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's going to be enough to like ultimately alter where

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Speaker 1: I think this program is headed. I've got him going

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Speaker 1: three and nine and firing Brent Brennan. I think there's

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Speaker 1: room for improvement.

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Speaker 3: I think some of the guys that they brought in

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Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball were productive transfers, coming

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Speaker 3: in a lot of whom from smaller schools. I kind

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Speaker 3: of like, well, I definitely like Danny Gonzalez TBD on

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Speaker 3: Seth Dagi. Danny Gonzalez has been a successful coordinator running

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Speaker 3: a three three five.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you're not.

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Speaker 3: Able to find big, deep defensive line rooms, there's something

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Speaker 3: about a three three five build around speed that they

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Speaker 3: have the opportunity to be again. It could be a

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Speaker 3: five and seven version for an eight version, a weird

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Speaker 3: little stinker of the Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: Okay, where they're.

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Speaker 3: Like they're not good, but you know in week three

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Speaker 3: and Week nine and week eleven they were actually pretty scrappy. Sure,

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Speaker 3: they have that potential. To me, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: it goes beyond that. I don't think their line play

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01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 3: is impressive enough to be a Bowl team. It's just

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01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 3: too many new faces and it seems to be a

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Speaker 3: pretty low ceiling there. Yeah, so yes, I think they

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01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 3: can be scrappy sometimes, but beyond that, I don't put

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Speaker 3: much on Arizona, especially with the schedule, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: pretty tough throughout Kansas State.

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Speaker 1: On a Friday at Iowa State, they go to Houston,

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Speaker 1: to Colorado to Cincinnati. It's not really the road games here.

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Speaker 3: But it's road games against the teams that if some

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Speaker 3: of them aren't so good. Yes they're on the road,

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Speaker 3: those are the winnable games hypothetically, But now they're on

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Speaker 3: the road.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. And they do close out the your

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Speaker 1: Territorial Cup on a Friday against Arizona State. Baylor's on

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Speaker 1: this thing. Kansas is on this thing BYU and Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: State are on the There's just a lot here and

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Speaker 1: for a team that I think is like I said

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Speaker 1: year zero in year two, if the winnable games are

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Speaker 1: on the road, that makes it tough. That makes it

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Speaker 1: really tough. Agree, why don't we leave it there? Eight

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Speaker 1: teams down? Yes, we got eight more to go. We

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Speaker 1: were actually pulling a double shift. As people are listening

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Speaker 1: to this, We're going to record the second of these

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Speaker 1: two parts a little bit later today. So if we

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Speaker 1: sound raspy and big twelve part three, that's why it's

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Speaker 1: okay right in solidverble edge pour and everything we have

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Speaker 1: into it. Sorry, where are they emailing soliverblegiba dot com.

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Speaker 1: There it is if you're interested, if you have more

1378
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: thoughts on this, as I say you, you will always

1379
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Speaker 1: know your team better than us. We encourage the feedback.

1380
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: We'd love for you to weigh in and let us

1381
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 1: know or wrong. Yeah, but just don't be a dick

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Speaker 1: about it. That's generally the rule.

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Speaker 3: But if you are a dick about it, be kind

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Speaker 3: of funny and weird with it, right, Like you can

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Speaker 3: go explore the space. By the way, there's probably a

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Speaker 3: lot of people here who have been like edge of

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Speaker 3: the seat wondering when we're going to weigh in the

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Speaker 3: sourdough I talked about on part one of the show.

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Speaker 3: I was going to ask you about the bread yips.

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Speaker 3: It does stiff starter, It doesn't win started gips anymore. No,

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Speaker 3: I went seventy percent hydration on the starter, so I

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Speaker 3: stiffened that up a little bit for some more yeast activity,

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Speaker 3: a little bit fewer bacterium in the starter. Stiff stiff

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Speaker 3: did basonage so out of the water in different stages.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely killer loaf this morning, Absolutely killer great oven spring.

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Speaker 3: Recommend a shift to a stiff starter to all struggling with.

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Speaker 1: That nice elefant ear on that too. I saw the

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Speaker 1: picture you sent me.

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Speaker 3: It's in the ear. Yeah, yeah, yeah, nice ear on there.

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Speaker 3: Very happy with it. I'm about to cut it open now.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we leave it there. It's been a long episode,

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Speaker 1: but it's been a lot of fun talking through the

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01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: top end parts of the bottom of the Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: We've got kind of that meaty middle tier coming up

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Speaker 1: on the next episode, which I think will be equally

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