Speaker 1: He lifts morning, But don't stand with the same one.
Speaker 1: Stalk to me.
Speaker 2: You know what you're doing, and you're backing enough to
Speaker 2: talking to me to what your other with me?
Speaker 1: So don't say he's too high. Do fun thinks with
Speaker 1: the bright guy a long eyes. Don't try to make
Speaker 1: you said so, baby, don't think right now.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and
Speaker 2: I'm Meila. And it's fucking late.
Speaker 1: That's really late. Yeah times.
Speaker 2: Uh it is twelve fifteen, am kyl. What a great
Speaker 2: time to talk about threesomes, the perfect time. This is
Speaker 2: Good Mom's after hours.
Speaker 1: Welcome. We even have rope after.
Speaker 3: Dark, Good Mom's after John.
Speaker 1: I how that sounds right, that's.
Speaker 3: A little it has a ring to it. Where are
Speaker 3: you going? Oh my god.
Speaker 1: We.
Speaker 2: Have Well I've had a long day and I'm tired
Speaker 2: as fuck.
Speaker 1: I know, but we have a very interesting topic tonight.
Speaker 2: Well, first you want to talk about actually, well, Jamila
Speaker 2: came over and our homeboy Carlton was here, and for
Speaker 2: some reason, Lifetime happened to be on.
Speaker 3: Or do you guys turn on the time?
Speaker 1: He reminded me it was on, And then I had
Speaker 1: seen hi meme, and we had to of course tune
Speaker 1: into the R. Kelly documentary, and I kept going back
Speaker 1: in the room and getting so caught into.
Speaker 2: It, like I know, you guys would be like mid
Speaker 2: conversation and quiet all of a sudden, like.
Speaker 1: She was sucking me in, like and then he did
Speaker 1: a what I.
Speaker 3: Know, I haven't.
Speaker 2: I didn't really, I wasn't really watching it, but I
Speaker 2: mean it's getting a lot of attention about like just
Speaker 2: really how fucked up he is and why he I
Speaker 2: don't know why he gets he discontinuously even after this,
Speaker 2: I think he'll still get the past.
Speaker 1: He in some people's minds, gets the pass. Yeah, but Erica,
Speaker 1: you said recently, I don't. I don't mean he gets
Speaker 1: the pass from me.
Speaker 2: I just mean like for some reason in society we
Speaker 2: like he gets the past.
Speaker 1: No, but you also say you saw in concert recently
Speaker 1: and it was fired doc.
Speaker 2: Was like not recently, more like five years ago. He
Speaker 2: was still a pedophile of that, and I knew it.
Speaker 2: And but I was at a music festival. I was
Speaker 2: at Pitchfork in Chicago, and so there are multiple shows
Speaker 2: going on, and so at first I wasn't at his show,
Speaker 2: and then I heard his music and it just sound
Speaker 2: it was so like it was crazy.
Speaker 3: It was lit over there, he was he was going in.
Speaker 1: I only have one thing to say. There's nothing, there's
Speaker 1: no excuse.
Speaker 4: Four years ago from this is all Wait a minute,
Speaker 4: I mean fish.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Did you see the one where he's on stage on
Speaker 2: all the passport were in a bitch of passport?
Speaker 1: No, oh my god, what do you mean he gave
Speaker 1: her a passport?
Speaker 2: No, he's singing so r kelly at his shows he
Speaker 2: does a lot of like freestyle singing and he will
Speaker 2: just like go on rants and they're all hilarious. But
Speaker 2: I don't know should I play it? Is this terrible
Speaker 2: with me like support not that I supporting him currently,
Speaker 2: Like I'm so confused by like what's appropriate and what
Speaker 2: is it?
Speaker 3: You know, because come.
Speaker 1: Closer what this means is I don't know. I mean
Speaker 1: it's such a catch twenty two because I think as women,
Speaker 1: we low key have kind of been conditioned to you know,
Speaker 1: but the abuse is real and the manipulation is real,
Speaker 1: and but it's honestly it's like mind control, you know,
Speaker 1: Like it's just manipulation and a whole different level. I
Speaker 1: don't excuse it. I think he's totally weird and something's
Speaker 1: probably wrong with him. Not something, Definitely, he's a pedophile, Definitely.
Speaker 1: He has a little girl fetish and he's gotten away
Speaker 1: with it over and over and over and over.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: As a black like, I feel like as a black community, like,
Speaker 2: we give him the past. I think also because we
Speaker 2: don't I don't know what it is. We don't respect
Speaker 2: our women. Men don't respect am the black woman enough
Speaker 2: that their favorite R and B singer they can't.
Speaker 1: They can't.
Speaker 3: He got the pits, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn that is I guess that's bottom line. I
Speaker 1: have anything to say the women. I wants to respect
Speaker 1: the kids. No, it's true, it's true. Yeah, he's weird.
Speaker 1: Even in the documentary they're talking about how he was
Speaker 1: like trolling, the trolling the high schools.
Speaker 3: Wait, well.
Speaker 1: I told you, Okay, it.
Speaker 3: Just it's not picking up that great. Sorry, we're having
Speaker 3: we have a new mic.
Speaker 2: Thank you to Nisha SB who on Christmas sent us
Speaker 2: a new mic because she felt bad for our terrible sound.
Speaker 2: But we're also technologically slow, and you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know if any of you guys have ever tried to
Speaker 2: start a podcast and not knowing what the fuck you're doing.
Speaker 2: But here we are, here, we are.
Speaker 1: Growing attempting to be sound engineers.
Speaker 3: Sorry.
Speaker 1: R Kelly, oh R Kelly. He was like trolling the
Speaker 1: the high schools and like it was a known fact
Speaker 1: but that people didn't really pay attention because it was
Speaker 1: like black girls, so like they didn't really pay attention.
Speaker 2: That's what one of the one of the victims said,
Speaker 2: right like he felt she felt like no one was
Speaker 2: protecting them because they were black girls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in Chicago, it was just yeah, it's just very strange.
Speaker 1: I think, you know what the problem is is that
Speaker 1: people like that really need mental attention. I feel like
Speaker 1: that's like a really mental thing. If you fetish size
Speaker 1: someone who's like not fully developed, that's that's something you
Speaker 1: got to deal with, like with a therapist. And I
Speaker 1: think we need to provide more support and like not
Speaker 1: brushed under the rug, but address it so that people
Speaker 1: know that they have. Like I think people probably have
Speaker 1: that fetish and don't say it because it's so taboo,
Speaker 1: but you have to at some point admit it to
Speaker 1: go get help for it.
Speaker 2: You know, you're shamed because it's so terrible. It's terrible,
Speaker 2: and you've probably abused somebody, right, you know exactly, And
Speaker 2: so instead of like trying to correct them, we like,
Speaker 2: well not in R. Kelly's case, but in most cases
Speaker 2: we throw them away, right, you know, because they deserve it.
Speaker 1: So how do those people get help to even address it? So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think this is more about that than anything.
Speaker 2: But I'm not sympathizing with him because at this point,
Speaker 2: like he knows the shit's fucking wrong, and he's doing
Speaker 2: nothing to try and change it. In fact, he's continuing
Speaker 2: on because he's gotten away with it so many times
Speaker 2: and now taking victims like not to take prisoners and shit.
Speaker 1: That reminds me the last time I popped my head
Speaker 1: in there. This girl was saying they were together and
Speaker 1: they had a really nice night and she was happy,
Speaker 1: and he bought her a gown and then they got
Speaker 1: back to the house and there was a girl there waiting,
Speaker 1: and he explained to her that she was a neighbor
Speaker 1: and that she was sixteen, and basically try to make
Speaker 1: it seem like he wanted to try something new with her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the girl yes, and like had a mattress set
Speaker 1: up a tripod and a camera, and basically the girl
Speaker 1: started crying, the little girl, no, the grown woman, and
Speaker 1: he was like, man, I'm gonna fucking watch my video
Speaker 1: now what you cry?
Speaker 3: And shit.
Speaker 1: His response that he was mad, not that she was crying,
Speaker 1: but that he wouldn't be able to enjoy his video later.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't have any he's not with his sociopath,
Speaker 2: there's no emotion of it.
Speaker 1: But his ex wife is on there and they have
Speaker 1: kids together. Hell, he wouldn't let her come out of
Speaker 1: the room. She had to ask to come out of
Speaker 1: the room to eat. Everybody was brought downstairs watching the
Speaker 1: playoff game and she was knocking on the room door
Speaker 1: and Sparkle was like, is somebody knocking And he was
Speaker 1: like yeah, and she's like, can I come get a
Speaker 1: bite to eat? He's like, yeah, come on. Can you
Speaker 1: fucking imagine, dude?
Speaker 3: What is she doing in there?
Speaker 1: What kind of digmatizing.
Speaker 3: Dick trickery?
Speaker 1: Is this sorcery? Sorcery? What is it.
Speaker 3: That hard?
Speaker 1: What are the dick sorceres? This ship is this ship
Speaker 1: away from that Dick's surcery? Ladies, it's out there digmatized
Speaker 1: and that ship will get you every time. Not to
Speaker 1: that level though then I also heard a little peep.
Speaker 1: I only saw some of that peep about they were
Speaker 1: all on the bus, the tour bus, when they were,
Speaker 1: you know, speculating whether or not him and Aliyah were
Speaker 1: in a relationship, even though ali and him were making
Speaker 1: appearances on television shows and matching outfits. Right, like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Anyway, the tour bus door swung open, and he was
Speaker 1: basically having sex with Olia, a sixteen year old girl,
Speaker 1: and he at that point, I don't know how old
Speaker 1: he was, but old enough to know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah for sure, Lord Jesus, Oh, I don't
Speaker 2: want I can't.
Speaker 3: I don't want to remember Eliah that way.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 1: I mean said, it's actually because it is manipulation. I mean,
Speaker 1: I even looking back into my high school experience, I
Speaker 1: had situations when I.
Speaker 3: Was like, yeah, that was not okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2: I mean I had an older, much older boyfriend in
Speaker 2: high school and he knew, like he he liked that
Speaker 2: I was young. Yeah, he would talk about it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I was like huh, and I liked it too, weird.
Speaker 2: It was manipulate.
Speaker 1: It was because you thought it meant it was cool.
Speaker 1: I was special.
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, yeah special. That's so fucked up and weird.
Speaker 3: That is weird.
Speaker 1: Speaking of weird things, is that a good transition to
Speaker 1: our topic? Sure, it's not weird, It's no, it's not weird.
Speaker 3: It's kinky.
Speaker 1: Though. Okay, this was a really bad transition. That was
Speaker 1: really that was a f I mean, you put on
Speaker 1: your sexy boy so I've been told to have a
Speaker 1: bedroom voice. This is a quiet storm, hi, guys, Jesus. Okay,
Speaker 1: So tonight's episode is about, oh already told you guys
Speaker 1: last week. What it's about? Top five Ways a half
Speaker 1: of positive threesome Experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: How do we manage to get this classy title Top
Speaker 1: five Ways Experience Women? Three? One on one.
Speaker 2: We are some classy sexually liberate, sexually liberated black.
Speaker 1: Women, and we're going to educate.
Speaker 3: We're going to take you through.
Speaker 2: Our top five because we are the experts.
Speaker 1: Self proclaimed experts. You have questions, we have answers.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So Number one communication slash rules major key, major key
Speaker 1: for this whole.
Speaker 3: Experience to go down.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, so just a little backstory on why this If
Speaker 2: you didn't tune into last week's episode.
Speaker 3: We had a listener call in not callin on our hot.
Speaker 2: Line right and ask us like some advice because she's
Speaker 2: been with her husband for nine years, they have two kids,
Speaker 2: and they've only ever been with each other.
Speaker 3: I think her husband had slept with one other person.
Speaker 2: And they're about to get married, or they're about to
Speaker 2: get married next month and or in two months, and
Speaker 2: they think that they're in a really great place in
Speaker 2: the relationship, but they both feel the urge to have
Speaker 2: sex with other people.
Speaker 1: Because I've never he's had sex as one other person.
Speaker 1: She's never had sex with anyone but.
Speaker 2: Him, like maybe a threesome or maybe just sex on
Speaker 2: their own.
Speaker 3: But she didn't know, like just.
Speaker 1: To open up their marriage or relationship.
Speaker 3: She didn't know how to go about it.
Speaker 2: She didn't know what the rules were, she didn't know
Speaker 2: if she should wait till.
Speaker 3: She's married or not married.
Speaker 2: And also a friend of ours, uh, she also has
Speaker 2: been inquiring about or like just interested in having a
Speaker 2: threesome with her husband, and she's never hooked up with
Speaker 2: a girl, and but she's interested in it in a
Speaker 2: long time. And she was asking me, like, there's a
Speaker 2: like a blueprint to the ship, like who's supposed to
Speaker 2: doing what?
Speaker 1: What are the wrong questions? Like how do you how
Speaker 1: do you get a girl to do it? Like what
Speaker 1: do you say? How do you know if they're down?
Speaker 2: And I think we're just in a much more I
Speaker 2: think I hear that, I hear this come up more
Speaker 2: and more for people because I think we're in a
Speaker 2: much more liberal, sexually liberated time than ever where like
Speaker 2: couples are more like open relationships are very normal now, right.
Speaker 1: It's almost the normal.
Speaker 2: It is the norm, and it's not the It's not normal,
Speaker 2: I don't think for everyone in their head. But it's
Speaker 2: becoming a popular or more popular idea. I think people
Speaker 2: have the idea, only a few act on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it's been happening for a
Speaker 1: long time.
Speaker 3: It is, but I mean but I mean, like but
Speaker 3: openly talking about it.
Speaker 1: Right, No, not so much. You know this is our personals,
Speaker 1: quiet understanding.
Speaker 2: Right and so yeah, so that's where this this, you know,
Speaker 2: having two people reach out to us in one week
Speaker 2: about how to have a.
Speaker 1: Threesome because clearly everybody thinks we know the answers because
Speaker 1: we've had multiple.
Speaker 2: I mean my threesome experience I've I've had, I've had some,
Speaker 2: but not You're way more experience than I am.
Speaker 1: I think that you have a very interesting perspective, which
Speaker 1: I really like your perspective. I'm kind of jealous of
Speaker 1: which I found a cool couple like that when you like,
Speaker 1: you know, like maintaining a relationship, not even relationship, but yeah,
Speaker 1: like a platonic relationship with a married couple. I think
Speaker 1: that's cool because everybody is in the know, which is interesting.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a cool marriage to be a
Speaker 1: part of for part of time, like a temporary point
Speaker 1: of time, and they're both hot hot.
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, really, I know, I got really lucky.
Speaker 1: I don't, yeh, super lucky, luckiest tender like the luckiest
Speaker 1: tendering bitch I've ever so a lot of my experiences.
Speaker 1: We're all random, i'd say, and drunken fun but uh yeah,
Speaker 1: not as thought I guess thought how But anyway, we're
Speaker 1: here to tell you all that we know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, number one communication slash rules.
Speaker 1: Also, Okay, we're gonna go down this list and we're
Speaker 1: going to do it from a couple perspective, and also
Speaker 1: the guest perspective, because sometimes you'll be the guest star
Speaker 1: and sometimes you may be listening to know how to recruit,
Speaker 1: or you're in a couple or you want to introduce
Speaker 1: it as a couple things, so it's different.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I think the first question, which.
Speaker 2: Is really important question, and actually I called our girl
Speaker 2: Weezy to ask her about her threecome experience before this episode,
Speaker 2: and she actually gave me some really good good things
Speaker 2: to think about, which one of them was why are
Speaker 2: you having the threesome? And it's like, are you having
Speaker 2: this to revive your relationship? Are you having this because
Speaker 2: your husband keeps mentioning it and so you're like just
Speaker 2: want to please him. Are you having it because you've
Speaker 2: always been interested in women and you you know, you
Speaker 2: want to try it out, explore, like why are you
Speaker 2: having it? And like if your answer is not out
Speaker 2: of I think derived out of like an insecurity.
Speaker 1: Or or also like from a man's perspective, like if
Speaker 1: you're if you're okay, well, I mean I don't know
Speaker 1: if you're doing it to revive your relationship or revive
Speaker 1: your interest in your partner, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think it's tricky.
Speaker 1: I think it's tricky. It could work and it could.
Speaker 3: Not or could have a backfire on you.
Speaker 1: So you need to be honest if this is someone
Speaker 1: you really want to do that with, and if you
Speaker 1: even want to be with that person to begin with,
Speaker 1: they were enjoying it as an escapism and a relationship.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's healthy if you're doing it to
Speaker 1: add to your relationship and to you know, like pump
Speaker 1: it up.
Speaker 2: If you're doing it because your man isn't giving you
Speaker 2: attention and you think maybe like you need to bring
Speaker 2: another woman in, then I would say no, I.
Speaker 3: Don't do that either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys have some shit to work on. If
Speaker 1: you have any like major doubts. If you don't like pussy,
Speaker 1: don't do it. You know, don't just try pussy because
Speaker 1: you think your man like it, because once your face
Speaker 1: gets close to that pussy, it's things you're gonna get strange.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like, damn, I'm here, I'm here now.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If you're curious about it, then definitely I think act
Speaker 1: on it, because you know, you only live once, and.
Speaker 2: Just communicating with your partner, having open conversations about you know,
Speaker 2: what your expectations are or and like you know, just
Speaker 2: having an understanding and.
Speaker 1: A common thorough understand, thorough.
Speaker 2: Understand, common trust. And I think what leads the us
Speaker 2: too is rules. So communicating the rules of what this
Speaker 2: threesome is going to be, whether it's you know, it's
Speaker 2: if you're for example, like we're for going down like
Speaker 2: the couple side right now.
Speaker 3: Okay, So if you're a.
Speaker 2: Couple, like like I would say, you know, you guys
Speaker 2: need to be on a group text and you don't
Speaker 2: stray from the group text.
Speaker 1: You don't communicate outside of the text.
Speaker 2: And you need to really have a make your man
Speaker 2: really understand this because men are weak.
Speaker 1: And a lot of times you give these motherfuckers an
Speaker 1: ech and they will take a mile. And this is
Speaker 1: for the men out there. Don't do that. If your
Speaker 1: woman is cool enough and open enough and secure enough
Speaker 1: to open it up and obviously do things that not
Speaker 1: all women are down to do, or we know, just
Speaker 1: explore things sexually, definitely don't take advantage of that, be honest,
Speaker 1: even if it's uncomfortable, and definitely like respect the fucking rule.
Speaker 3: Don't damage that trust to do because that's almost worse
Speaker 3: than cheating.
Speaker 1: It is because I've given, I've given you, and now
Speaker 1: you're taking advantage and now I'm gonna slap the shit
Speaker 1: out of you. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3: No, you're not.
Speaker 1: I don't contain. I don't condone domestic violence.
Speaker 3: Only in times of threesome.
Speaker 1: Cheating the worst type of cheating. It's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: pretty bad. Rules. Oh, a lot of people have rules
Speaker 1: about Okay, I don't really believe in this, but I've
Speaker 1: heard a lot of people have rules about, like kissing,
Speaker 1: certain things you can and cannot do physically sexually. Maybe
Speaker 1: you don't want your man eat another bitches pussy. I mean,
Speaker 1: it depends where you get this bitch. Where I can
Speaker 1: understand that rule. But where'd you get the bitch depends
Speaker 1: you found her.
Speaker 2: You know, she's.
Speaker 1: Quality, she top notch. You know, if she's in you
Speaker 1: may not want to. Anyone might not want to eat
Speaker 1: that pussy. You may not have to, you know. But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is, do you not want the kiss? I
Speaker 1: think stuff like that is silly because to me, if
Speaker 1: you're having an intimate relationship, you're.
Speaker 2: Already putting limitations on, like if you' putting supposed to
Speaker 2: be free.
Speaker 1: Which is right titty. You know, like if you if
Speaker 1: you want, if you have ridiculous expectations, especially physically, it's
Speaker 1: it kind of you can't. You can only contain sex
Speaker 1: to a certain extent if you're opening it.
Speaker 2: You know. That's another thing. It's like, you know, once
Speaker 2: you open that box, it's open. It's it's like the
Speaker 2: opening Pandora's box. That shit don't close back up the time.
Speaker 1: Ever comes out of Pandora's box, the good and the bad.
Speaker 1: You have to deal with it because you've given permission
Speaker 1: to open that door.
Speaker 2: And also, I think as a partner you have to
Speaker 2: also again I was saying before we're talking about this,
Speaker 2: before we're recorded, it's like you have to as much
Speaker 2: as it's opening Pandora's box, like you also have to
Speaker 2: be open to the idea that like maybe one year,
Speaker 2: maybe your partner doesn't like it and closing that box,
Speaker 2: and can you handle that?
Speaker 1: Can you handle like tasting it them and not being
Speaker 1: able to continue frolicking in it. Also, if you're the
Speaker 1: person coming in and it's not a couple of situations,
Speaker 1: don't get no motherfucking feelings for somebody in a relationship
Speaker 1: and start acting crazy that's not okay. If you're coming
Speaker 1: in as a guest, be a motherfucking guest like you
Speaker 1: would be in somebody's house. Be respectful, Be respectful, you know, like.
Speaker 2: Ask them questions, get to know them both. You know,
Speaker 2: it's important that they feel equal, and.
Speaker 1: I think it's important that you respect the relationship just
Speaker 1: because it just makes everything better. And I'm not into
Speaker 1: that sneaky shit.
Speaker 3: To tell them.
Speaker 2: Also, I think the couple too, like they have a
Speaker 2: responsibility to make that guest feel special and feel comfortable.
Speaker 2: And you know, like kind of I feel like whine
Speaker 2: and dining that person dating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, dependence on the scenario, but yeah, but.
Speaker 2: In a way not wine and dine them, but you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like also for me when I've been a guest, buy
Speaker 1: me a drinker too, Yeah, for sure, or also okay,
Speaker 1: that's a difficult, we'll get downe there. You should usually
Speaker 1: include liquor just step one. Usually alcohol is highly recommended.
Speaker 2: Not always, not always, but if you're trying to loosen
Speaker 2: up and it's your first time, you're.
Speaker 1: Nervous, maybe if you're not a good drinker, don't oh oh.
Speaker 1: The rules for the couple to the guest. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: not only include her and make her feel comfortable, but
Speaker 1: as a guest, if I can feel any sense of
Speaker 1: any remote jealousy or weirdness or awkwardness, I'm out. I
Speaker 1: don't want anything to do with this because you guys
Speaker 1: think you want this, but I can tell that this
Speaker 1: bitch doesn't. I don't like that.
Speaker 3: So what happened to you?
Speaker 1: I've been different situations where I could tell, like the guy,
Speaker 1: I was wanting to do it, and she was maybe
Speaker 1: feeling threatened, and I was trying to like warm her up.
Speaker 1: And this makes me sounds terrible, I mean, but just
Speaker 1: like being a but and even not even saying like
Speaker 1: I was going into it knowing that this was the exectation,
Speaker 1: but just getting the feel. That's just if you go
Speaker 1: out to dinner with people, when you run into a couple,
Speaker 1: it's just courtesy. Don't overflirt with a bitches guy and
Speaker 1: he's acting overly anxious to have more conversation with her.
Speaker 1: You know, No, you're know your spot, bitch.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, So then what else is okay?
Speaker 3: So think another rule? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think your partner, I think I think sexually,
Speaker 2: like it's important for everyone to be equal to you know,
Speaker 2: or I.
Speaker 3: Mean, it depends what kind of setup you're trying to.
Speaker 1: Have, right, dedicating it all. If it's someone's birthday, you know,
Speaker 1: is it your man's birthday, so everybody's attentions on him,
Speaker 1: is it your birthday? All the attentions on you, you know,
Speaker 1: is it her birthday? Maybe this is about you guys
Speaker 1: pleasing her. I mean, it's all I think.
Speaker 3: Also, I think men, you guys need to let the
Speaker 3: woman choose.
Speaker 1: No, it's not you think it's an absolutely mandatory thing.
Speaker 2: The woman that had I think that's the that's the
Speaker 2: number one rule and the rules, and the woman has to.
Speaker 1: Unless she has. If you have the best bitch on earth,
Speaker 1: then she said you choose, then congratulations. No, she's not
Speaker 1: so smart, honestly, Like, no, don't even don't even suggest,
Speaker 1: don't even try to recommend. You could say something like, oh,
Speaker 1: what do you think about her? She's kind of cute,
Speaker 1: maybe a little, but don't make any requests. And don't
Speaker 1: suggest someone you fucked before. Yeah, don't lie and say
Speaker 1: you don't have fuck that person before and then introduce them.
Speaker 1: Those are all absolute fuck nos. Yeah, I just think
Speaker 1: you absolutely have to put that in the woman's the
Speaker 1: woman's court. Oh also, oh wait, are there yet?
Speaker 2: No, Okay, I think also like it makes the woman
Speaker 2: feel like she's more in control of the situation. And
Speaker 2: you know, unfortunately and niggas have a real bad track record,
Speaker 2: so like we need to we need that and we
Speaker 2: need that that. I guess that validation I think, you know,
Speaker 2: for me, like I'm kind of I know, I'm I've
Speaker 2: been aggressive lately, but I'm like kind of shy when
Speaker 2: it comes to women because it's so strange to me
Speaker 2: because I don't know how to really like I've always
Speaker 2: been on the other side, I'm the woman, Like I
Speaker 2: don't really even I know how.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: I just feel like I'm not good at flirting with women.
Speaker 2: So maybe a wife would feel uncomfortable approaching the woman,
Speaker 2: so she needs the support of her husband or her partner,
Speaker 2: her boyfriend whatever to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like and that's like even me, Like when I've been.
Speaker 2: Out with a guy I'm dating who were interested in
Speaker 2: doing that, Like I'll be like, this is the girl
Speaker 2: I like, I need you, but I've let him know
Speaker 2: like I like her, and now I need you to
Speaker 2: try to seal this deal.
Speaker 3: Like go flirt with her, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: So it's like you gotta.
Speaker 1: And that's a really good indication to let the girl know. Wait,
Speaker 1: which you're implying, like what you're trying to get? You know,
Speaker 1: like there's equal flirting and it's equal. I don't. I
Speaker 1: guess it's more it's more difficult for the woman because
Speaker 1: what do you what do you? How do you like?
Speaker 1: It's harder for a woman to foot with the woman
Speaker 1: to know if she's down with the get down, like
Speaker 1: if you're not, if you're not being aggressive and she's
Speaker 1: not being aggressive either, someone at some point has to
Speaker 1: be the aggressor. But I don't know. I think you're
Speaker 1: lying because I've seen it. So Erica and I have
Speaker 1: a slight girl crush on one of our guests recently.
Speaker 1: That's Carmen.
Speaker 3: Damn what Okay, we're putting it out there hopefully.
Speaker 1: Already knows.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a secret.
Speaker 1: I think it's a very known fact. She has a
Speaker 1: really nice body.
Speaker 3: She's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's really beautiful. She's cool and she's fun. Anyway,
Speaker 1: me and Erica having a slight rivalry, a little bit
Speaker 1: of rivay, she's a lesbian rivalry anyway. Erica is claiming
Speaker 1: right now that she's all innocent and that she doesn't
Speaker 1: approach women and blah blah blah. But I've seen a
Speaker 1: different side of Erica. You know, Tequila does that.
Speaker 3: Like we said, step one alcohol.
Speaker 1: Okay, if you want to bring out your inner a week,
Speaker 1: get you some tequila, because fucking Erica. We went out
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago with Carmen and others are partying,
Speaker 1: and you know, we're all in the photo booth and
Speaker 1: literally I look back. I just like, maybe i'd look
Speaker 1: back for like five seconds. I just see Erica moving
Speaker 1: in towards Karmen's face. I'm like, this little sneaky bitch.
Speaker 3: On earlier you were touching her, and stop touching her.
Speaker 1: Stop that's that fucking scorpion.
Speaker 3: I was like, stop it.
Speaker 1: You don't know.
Speaker 2: I already told you that I'm on that.
Speaker 1: She did? Did? She claimed it, like before we even
Speaker 1: she even met her. I have a crush on one
Speaker 1: of our listeners. I did, Yeah, Okay, so I guess
Speaker 1: that's all you Carmen, now, you know, unless you want
Speaker 1: to choose otherwise.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm first okay. Anyway, so most of the time
Speaker 2: I am meek and and very awkward in front of women.
Speaker 1: Until she gets a little tequila and okay, she will
Speaker 1: make out with you, whether you like it or not.
Speaker 1: Not saying that Karmen didn't like it.
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't make out with Carmen.
Speaker 1: Oh there was no time, right, No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, anyway, maybe we could do like a three
Speaker 2: way kiss. See she's trying to negotiate, just like what Okay, fine, fine, okay.
Speaker 1: This is the number one rule of all the rules.
Speaker 1: This is all number one golden threesome rule. Do not
Speaker 1: plan the threesome. Just don't do it. It has to
Speaker 1: happen organically. You can't go out on the prow. When
Speaker 1: you go on the prow, epic fail, you never meet
Speaker 1: a good bit.
Speaker 3: But I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't agree with you because I did plan one
Speaker 2: and it was with my it was with the couple
Speaker 2: that I was hang out with.
Speaker 3: And but you guys were seeing each other like that
Speaker 3: was that was because it was off an app.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was off an app. You knew the intention,
Speaker 1: it was set.
Speaker 3: Up that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess so, Yeah, if you're going out.
Speaker 1: Even then you guys went out. Guys went to dinners.
Speaker 2: I know what we knew it was going down. We
Speaker 2: went to one, We went to dinner and then went
Speaker 2: to the room, went to the condo, condo, their condo.
Speaker 1: Well it's tender. Yeah, okay, yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys, did we already touch on this if you
Speaker 1: were turned into the first episode, Erica had a tender
Speaker 1: love affair?
Speaker 3: What like my couple?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Did we talk about this? Sorry?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, basically I met a beautiful couple on Tinder,
Speaker 2: and I didn't believe it was real. And it was
Speaker 2: like right around the beginning of me breaking up, or
Speaker 2: it was I was broken up with, but I was
Speaker 2: like trying to like get out there and try new shit.
Speaker 2: And so I found them and we chatted and they
Speaker 2: sent me other photos that I knew they were real,
Speaker 2: and I was like, god damn. And then I wasn't
Speaker 2: sure if I was going to do it. They told
Speaker 2: me I wanted to go to dinner and they wanted
Speaker 2: to take me to dinner, went to dinner, had some
Speaker 2: Margarita's Margarita's yeah and.
Speaker 3: Yeah m hm, and then she did.
Speaker 1: Then I did it several times and it was lovely.
Speaker 3: It was great.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's a success.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and to see their relationship, like you know, they
Speaker 2: the only reason I know some of these rules is
Speaker 2: because of them, you know, because they had rules, which
Speaker 2: brings us to two.
Speaker 1: How how do you go about having a threesome? How
Speaker 1: do you recruit?
Speaker 3: Yeah, friends versus strangers?
Speaker 1: And do you use an app? Do you recruit an
Speaker 1: erica from a tender? Hey? Do you go to the bar?
Speaker 1: I would say any of the above depends how direct
Speaker 1: you're trying to be. I personally like an in person
Speaker 1: meet up because I can feel you out, I could
Speaker 1: see you. Energy is big for me sometimes, you know,
Speaker 1: those five picks don't do all the justice.
Speaker 3: It's that computer allowed. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's affecting the sound. We have these
Speaker 2: classy microphones. I think we're good, but it's recording through
Speaker 2: the computer.
Speaker 6: Oh well, all right, whatever, it doesn't matter now okay, yeah, bar.
Speaker 1: Bar again with the liquor. I put a dance bar.
Speaker 1: What's a dance bar?
Speaker 3: But I mean.
Speaker 1: The club? The club because you know, like that's how
Speaker 1: a lot of my lesbians spot me out on the
Speaker 1: dance floor to see how close they're getting.
Speaker 3: You know it's that witchy dance. They're enticed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think for me because I am
Speaker 2: a little like awkward, and I don't I'm not really
Speaker 2: good at reading women in that way all the time.
Speaker 2: I think that an app was better for me, and
Speaker 2: it's probably still isn't in ways because it's like a
Speaker 2: sure thing.
Speaker 1: You don't think the dance bar helps.
Speaker 2: I mean the dance bar maybe now that I've entered
Speaker 2: into I've done, I've done, I've had more experiences like that.
Speaker 2: Now you can now I could do that. But early on,
Speaker 2: like I felt awkward. I wasn't as like secure in
Speaker 2: just approaching a woman and being like, what's up?
Speaker 3: You know, I'm like, because.
Speaker 2: Actually there's a girl that I've liked for a really
Speaker 2: long time when I lived in New York, and like
Speaker 2: I did not I wanted to sleep with her and
Speaker 2: I had no idea how to do it. And I
Speaker 2: would hang out with her all the time and I
Speaker 2: would like think, I'm like, am I giving off the sign?
Speaker 1: I'm like, is I doing that?
Speaker 2: Maybe she doesn't like girls? Like I'm so confused? Do
Speaker 2: I ask her? And it was just it was just
Speaker 2: I had no game, zero fucking game.
Speaker 1: I don't have any game either. You have to like
Speaker 1: basically tell me, no, you have game.
Speaker 3: Okay, you do, thanks, it's just natural. Okay, yeah you
Speaker 3: got a game. I thought you were trying to hook Carmen.
Speaker 3: Back the fuck up.
Speaker 1: Yeah. One time Carmen posted a pic and I feel
Speaker 1: like the droolie face or something. This bitch sent me
Speaker 1: a threatening text message like, back the fuck up, bitch,
Speaker 1: don't be comment on her pictures like that. I was like,
Speaker 1: is she really mad? This pitch is really mad? She's
Speaker 1: like I already told you. I was like, damn, it's
Speaker 1: like our first fight.
Speaker 2: This.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm so sorry Carmen.
Speaker 1: I think I was like, gonna think for aggressive aggressive
Speaker 1: two pairs of friends.
Speaker 3: Well now she definitely is. She's like, never gonna hang
Speaker 3: out with us again.
Speaker 1: Don't be scared, Kian, we don't buy it. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so yeah, I think.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: I think also like, if you're a conservative couple going
Speaker 2: back to couples, if you're a conservative couple, you've never
Speaker 2: done this before, either one of you, you want to
Speaker 2: even just test out if you even really like, first
Speaker 2: of all, if you're okay seeing another woman be on
Speaker 2: your man first of all, because you might think about
Speaker 2: it and like the idea, but then when you actually see.
Speaker 3: It might fuck you up.
Speaker 2: So I think a really good place to start is
Speaker 2: going to a strip club.
Speaker 1: And uh, just buying a few lap.
Speaker 2: Dances, buying some lap dances, enjoying the women, and seeing
Speaker 2: how you feel with your man being with another woman,
Speaker 2: because whether you're having a threesome or he's out doing
Speaker 2: his own thing and you're out doing your own thing. Like,
Speaker 2: I feel like it's a visual that you need to see,
Speaker 2: like to know for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even if you think a do I like pussy?
Speaker 1: Do I want to eat it?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: Like that's also a good place because the shippers are
Speaker 1: always going to be nice to you. It's their job,
Speaker 1: so you know, you can't get rejected. There's no aquard moments.
Speaker 1: She's that's gonna be your you know, sometimes even shippers
Speaker 1: are good candidates. I've known some like birthday situations where
Speaker 1: they got to like a stripper. And I know friends
Speaker 1: or ex friends that used to be strippers and we're
Speaker 1: like purchased for three someome purposes. That sounds really bad, yeah,
Speaker 1: but whatever. And also if you're a very very very
Speaker 1: very conservative couple and.
Speaker 3: Too much.
Speaker 1: Pretty much, you need to start by watching porn together,
Speaker 1: maybe indulging in some threesome porn together to see if
Speaker 1: it even you're comfortable with it, or lesbian porn or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because your man will be aroused at watching it
Speaker 2: and maybe that'll either make you uncomfortable or not and
Speaker 2: or spce versa.
Speaker 1: You know, also choosing a friend or choosing a stranger.
Speaker 1: This is a very tricky one. I hear this a
Speaker 1: lot because is it too close to home inviting your friend?
Speaker 1: Do you are you going to feel weird after and
Speaker 1: now you've fucked up your friendship because somebody's feeling weird?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like now is that bitch looking at
Speaker 1: my man because she's around and she's fucked him? Is
Speaker 1: he looking at her? Blah blah blah? Or if you're
Speaker 1: the friend sometimes I don't mean ergar have both experienced this.
Speaker 1: You have sex with a friend couple and then they
Speaker 1: want to do it all the time and you're like, wait,
Speaker 1: that was just like fun time one time. You don't know,
Speaker 1: this is not a regular thing. We're friends, and then
Speaker 1: it gets you know how to say? Now, I think
Speaker 1: you have to. If you're going to do a friend,
Speaker 1: he has to be a friend, a really good close friend,
Speaker 1: like you know which friends are like.
Speaker 2: And that you know you can talk to about it
Speaker 2: afterwards not gonna be weird. Well, there's just no way
Speaker 2: to know, actually, because even though my my my first
Speaker 2: ever recent experiences with experiences was with one of my
Speaker 2: best friends and we were young though, but still we
Speaker 2: didn't I didn't know how to.
Speaker 3: Talk to her about it afterwards.
Speaker 2: Like it was like our friendship just kind of fizzled
Speaker 2: out because, like you said, like she still wanted to
Speaker 2: continue doing it, and I was like, wait, we're like
Speaker 2: friends best friends were like a long time, Like I don't,
Speaker 2: I'm good, and so instead of dealing with it, we
Speaker 2: just kind of like stopped hanging out. It was weird. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm also young, so I think I'm more mature now.
Speaker 2: But you know, if you but you know it doesn't
Speaker 2: take it didn't you can you can be emotionally immature
Speaker 2: at thirty one too.
Speaker 1: So I'm so unawkward that I might. I can set
Speaker 1: a zone where I can make you feel like did
Speaker 1: we even have sex? Like I can. I've had friends
Speaker 1: who I were like try me alone, and we were
Speaker 1: like have sex in the next days, like them all
Speaker 1: like whatever. It doesn't even like I could go either way.
Speaker 1: We could talk about it. We don't have to talk
Speaker 1: about it. I could pretend it didn't happen. It doesn't
Speaker 1: really matter. But everybody's not like that, and you have
Speaker 1: to be able. That's why you have to know your
Speaker 1: friends and know who's like you know. Don't you choose
Speaker 1: any sneaky bitches friends you know, only friends you really trust,
Speaker 1: or no friends at all. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: Friends can feel safe, you know they can. But I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: you really have to think about it. I I think
Speaker 2: I prefer like more like strangers or like just acquaintances,
Speaker 2: not friends. It's not like real friends that I hang
Speaker 2: out with. Yeah, you know, especially like especially if you're
Speaker 2: in a marriage or a relationship and then bringing a
Speaker 2: friend in it might be too close because you all are.
Speaker 3: Going to hang out all the time and it's just
Speaker 3: going to ruin it.
Speaker 1: Unless your friend is me.
Speaker 3: What else.
Speaker 1: Choosing a friend versus a stranger. I've actually I've done
Speaker 1: it a couple of times. I preferred to be the guest.
Speaker 2: What about you, I've only been the guest Okay, so well,
Speaker 2: actually that's not true because my experience.
Speaker 3: In Spain, I wasn't the guest.
Speaker 1: Oh we'll hear about that later. But and yeah, I
Speaker 1: felt more like empowered.
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: I did not feel empowered with like the couple that
Speaker 2: but it's just a different sense of empowerment, which I'm
Speaker 2: sure you know the wife probably fell to you know,
Speaker 2: and I wanted to give that to her.
Speaker 3: As the guest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because that's your role as a guest.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, have we done with that?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, this list is drinky. It looks like, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the partner must know you're the VIP. That's a
Speaker 3: good one. Did we say that allowed yet? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So you have to make your partner the VIP. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't make the bitch the VIP, that is, unless you
Speaker 1: guys prediscussed some shit like that.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I felt like a VIP with a couple.
Speaker 1: Yeah I did. Well, because you're excited that you're there.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're the guest.
Speaker 3: Yeah. They definitely like made me feel pleased.
Speaker 1: I have to do that. Yeah. Yeah, this has to
Speaker 1: be equal parts everybody.
Speaker 3: I think everybody needs their VIP moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, and there's got to be a
Speaker 2: lot of eye contact with you and your partner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a juggle. This is not an easy thing.
Speaker 1: There are rules, there are things you need to be
Speaker 1: conscious of while interacting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like if you're with your man or you're you're
Speaker 3: with your woman, you.
Speaker 2: Need to make motherfucking eye contact with her a bunch
Speaker 2: of times.
Speaker 1: And it has to be to.
Speaker 2: Let her know we're in this together. Yeah, I'm here
Speaker 2: with you, baby. Yeah, she's here.
Speaker 1: But like we're here, we're here, we're doing that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're doing this for us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're ye. And it's and you've got to
Speaker 1: just make sure everybody's vibe is right. A lot of
Speaker 1: reassurance is required, especially if this is like the first
Speaker 1: time or the first couple of times whatever.
Speaker 2: Number three where is where is? Oh?
Speaker 3: There?
Speaker 1: It is recruiting? Do we do that?
Speaker 2: What does that say? Is that say recruiting? What does
Speaker 2: that say underneath it?
Speaker 1: Empowered?
Speaker 3: Empowered? I guess that we just touched on that is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the empowerment part is empowering your your your.
Speaker 3: Partner and.
Speaker 2: You know, just making them feel assured and also, like
Speaker 2: I said before, like knowing your partner well enough to
Speaker 2: know if they're enjoying this or not and not being selfish.
Speaker 1: Oh and also I think what we forgot to touch
Speaker 1: on on the recruiting is what do you say to
Speaker 1: recruit someone to come to the bedroom with you and
Speaker 1: your partner?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: And if you're a guest, we're gonna hope that they're
Speaker 1: asking you. You don't ask a couple. You can seem
Speaker 1: available and fun, but you don't. You don't ask only
Speaker 1: couples and single people or it just happens. But yeah,
Speaker 1: do you have any suggestions?
Speaker 2: I mean, for me as the guest, Like most of
Speaker 2: the time, the woman is the one that's like like
Speaker 2: made me feel comfortable at first, touching, you know, rubbing
Speaker 2: my leg. You know, it's it's all about its contact,
Speaker 2: you know that.
Speaker 1: Like how comfortable you're getting, how flirty.
Speaker 2: Like when you're talking tou touch her legs, touch her arm,
Speaker 2: get closer, like.
Speaker 1: Dance close, dance sexy music.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then maybe like grab your man, let him
Speaker 2: touch her, give him permission, you know, like whawt she has.
Speaker 1: Such nice boobs? Lookt her boobs? Damn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like so I think it's just be physical.
Speaker 2: You're beautiful, wow, you know, beautiful complimentary, or you could
Speaker 2: be like me and it's.
Speaker 3: Like Jamila is one was getting the shower.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's like once you get them back to the house, well,
Speaker 1: this also ensures that she's clean. But it's and it's fun.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, let's just take a shower. I'm so
Speaker 1: like dirty, No, don't say that, but it's like, look
Speaker 1: at the shower. To take a shower, drunk shower. It
Speaker 1: just seems fun. And then you can make your moves,
Speaker 1: you know, like wash each other. You wash, you know,
Speaker 1: so you know what's going on, she knows what's going on.
Speaker 1: And then you could just go and it flows from there.
Speaker 1: Kissing obviously. Maybe if you are taking a girl home
Speaker 1: and your husband's driving, jump in the back seat with
Speaker 1: the girl and then that's the nicest we did that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's done. That too. A nice place to get it started.
Speaker 1: He can look in the rear room mirror. It's kind
Speaker 1: of hot. It builds up.
Speaker 3: You get connected to the girl first first, right, it's.
Speaker 1: Kind of like Avatar, you know, when you they pull
Speaker 1: their ponytail behind and they stick it in that thing
Speaker 1: that flies to connect. You get your first so you've
Speaker 1: made the bond.
Speaker 2: I literally just can't with this example and the mining
Speaker 2: that just happened with your braids, is that what it's like?
Speaker 3: Okay, I guess.
Speaker 1: So that's also the same thing with the woman has
Speaker 1: to recruit. It has to be someone she initiates contact with,
Speaker 1: someone she chooses, because that's the part of making that
Speaker 1: avatar bond. Because I've set my stamp our relationship is
Speaker 1: you were like, it's just it's just protocol. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then it makes her feel more comfortable, and essentially that's
Speaker 1: who needs to feel more comfortable. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: then we're not thinking, we're thinking very feminist because what
Speaker 1: if there are men who don't really want to open
Speaker 1: their relationship up and maybe the woman really is craving
Speaker 1: some pussy and or some dick or some dick, which
Speaker 1: is a whole different con verstation. I've come across a very,
Speaker 1: very very limited amount of men who would be willing
Speaker 1: to give, first of all, to hear the fantasy that
Speaker 1: his wife or a woman wants to be with more than
Speaker 1: one guy one at the time, because there's such it's
Speaker 1: such a stigma. Men can fucking crave it all day long.
Speaker 1: But if a woman crazy it, she's a whoreor it's a.
Speaker 3: Train, right, It's always a train. It's always a train. Literally.
Speaker 2: My friend was just here right now and we were
Speaker 2: talking about threesomes. And when he was talking about threesomes,
Speaker 2: he was we were talking about girl, two girls and
Speaker 2: a guy.
Speaker 3: He's like, oh, yeah, threesome.
Speaker 2: And I've only had one, and then we did and
Speaker 2: then we were talking about well, two girls and a guy,
Speaker 2: I mean two guys and a girl.
Speaker 3: He was like, oh, yeah, I've done that. That's a train.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, it's literally the same thing. It's the
Speaker 2: exact same thing.
Speaker 1: Right, right, And even like the word it's a train,
Speaker 1: like she's a train.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so demeaning, it's so degrading.
Speaker 1: And oh yeah. Even I had this conversation with young Bin.
Speaker 1: He's like, if you've ever if I've ever found out
Speaker 1: you had sex with you guys a one time, I
Speaker 1: would never fuck with you. I'm like, wow, despite the
Speaker 1: fact that you know me right and I am right right.
Speaker 1: So it's you know, as much as we'd like to
Speaker 1: say like men are open minded, they're like there's so
Speaker 1: many there's still so much like constriction on who we're
Speaker 1: allowed to be and who they're allowed to be because
Speaker 1: even in my mind it sounds like a train.
Speaker 3: Because that's.
Speaker 2: You know what, I don't think that when I think
Speaker 2: of it, I think of it as threesome. When I
Speaker 2: think of train, I think of something different. I think
Speaker 2: of like orgy more.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm trying to think of like a lot of
Speaker 1: guys like.
Speaker 2: Org one girl and like more than one two guys.
Speaker 2: But that's but that's but that's it's not true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I one guy told me that his girl had
Speaker 1: expressed wanting to have sex with two guys, and he
Speaker 1: was actually open to giving her what she wanted. He said,
Speaker 1: Now the guy couldn't like stay, he would have to
Speaker 1: get the fuck about there after that I can like
Speaker 1: saying cuddle, he's like, whereas if it was me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want like you two to just like cuddle up
Speaker 1: under my arms and fallows, nestle under me and fall asleep.
Speaker 1: And if that would be word, I've had three times
Speaker 1: like that, but two guys, no, no oh, I was.
Speaker 2: Thinking of two guys nestling each other, saying he would
Speaker 2: just not weird, but that would be like I think
Speaker 2: the guy was also getting pleasure out of the guy
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, I don't know everyone has a nestle. But
Speaker 1: have you guys seen Savages? Is that with the Blake? Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I always talk about this when we talk about three
Speaker 1: because it's my favorite threesome movie. Yeah, it's so loving,
Speaker 1: it's so friendly. It's like my ideal. Like if it's
Speaker 1: just the other movie too, if I was going to
Speaker 1: have a relationship like that, it would be like that,
Speaker 1: like we're all best friends and I get the best
Speaker 1: of both worlds.
Speaker 3: Is that one with Penelope Crews and Scarlet Johansen? You
Speaker 3: just see that one because we're both hot and Harvier Bardome?
Speaker 1: Oh he two girlfriends?
Speaker 3: Those are his two girlfriends.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Well that's just like the Savages. They're both hot, hot,
Speaker 1: and they both fuck her like totally different. It's so hot.
Speaker 1: He focks are all hardcore and one fucks are all
Speaker 1: gentle and soft, and they all love each other. They're
Speaker 1: best friends. They love her, they shoot her like a queen.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, what else is there?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: What about the condom thing?
Speaker 2: We were talking about this too, because you know my
Speaker 2: friend is my computer about today?
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the contemp thing, like whether like how you deal
Speaker 2: with that as a couple. You know, if you're married
Speaker 2: or you're in a relationship and you guys don't use condoms, well.
Speaker 1: You definitely slip a condom on.
Speaker 2: Well, I know how it works with I know how
Speaker 2: it's worked in my situation.
Speaker 1: But wait, he just put a condom on when he yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then when he's with her he does he takes
Speaker 1: it off, you know, And if it's two bitches, you don't.
Speaker 1: It's all nobody's fucking wrong. You need to switch condoms
Speaker 1: between bitches, pussies. You need to enter one, switch it
Speaker 1: out and enter the other. There shouldn't be no double
Speaker 1: dipping of the condoms because that's pretty strange. Oh uh,
Speaker 1: what else did we forget? That's a big one. The
Speaker 1: condom one you cannot fuck up with that. Do not
Speaker 1: fuck up and have a threesome row because that. I've
Speaker 1: heard a bad story about that too. A couple was
Speaker 1: having sex with her friend multiple times. The guy pulled
Speaker 1: the condom off, like the friend wrong and basically pulled
Speaker 1: out kind of late. Bitch ended up getting pregnant the friend.
Speaker 1: The friend she was saying it wasn't his. The baby
Speaker 1: came looking just like this guy and it was just
Speaker 1: very sketchy. Was that intentional on her part? I don't know.
Speaker 2: But just to avoid all of that, just don't have
Speaker 2: sex with unprotected with some situation. Yeah, no, I measure
Speaker 2: if you got pregnant.
Speaker 3: But like with your husband during is that weird?
Speaker 1: No? Okay, your husband always have this little funny secret
Speaker 1: secret about your kid.
Speaker 3: Oh god that no kid ever wants to know. I'm
Speaker 3: a mom, do not? What does that say?
Speaker 2: Do you?
Speaker 1: Not? Planning a threesome? Must be organized organic?
Speaker 3: Organic?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think that's we talked about that already, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that was like the number one rule. Yeah, open
Speaker 1: relationship versus occasional threesome, there's a difference, totally different things.
Speaker 1: Just because you're is mean you have an open relationship?
Speaker 3: Men, well, open relate.
Speaker 2: The definition of open relationship is means your relationship is open.
Speaker 2: You by yourself can go sleep with somebody else.
Speaker 1: Because some people have open relagions, but don't ever partakee
Speaker 1: in threesomes right.
Speaker 2: Right, No, they do it separate. They do it separately, period, but.
Speaker 1: They don't want to see it. Right and overall, to
Speaker 1: top off this list, the aftermath? What now after the threesome?
Speaker 1: Has gone down. Oh, we forgot to talk about like
Speaker 1: specific threesome moves A three like what oh like actual
Speaker 1: like sex positions. Yeah, oh yeah, okay, okay, Like we said,
Speaker 1: if we want to start it off, I suggest maybe
Speaker 1: a shower, group shower, maybe, like you said, a leg rub,
Speaker 1: a little massage. Oh, you have nice boobs, let me touch.
Speaker 1: But once it gets really started and we've initiated, it's threesome,
Speaker 1: it's happening, we're in motion. What do we do now?
Speaker 1: You can do like a two people giving one person
Speaker 1: head at the same time, you can give one person
Speaker 1: giving a head, another person giving someone else.
Speaker 2: Do you think it's like proper Do you think it's
Speaker 2: like threesome etiquette to let the couple, if you're if
Speaker 2: you're a guest, have sex first, like let them start
Speaker 2: fucking first before you are in that space.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I never even thought about that.
Speaker 3: These are questions that I'm sure like people I have.
Speaker 1: I think that if the couple, I think, if you're
Speaker 1: the guest, I kind of let the couple initiate.
Speaker 3: What's what's going on?
Speaker 1: What's going on? Because clearly you guys know what you like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys have done this before, right.
Speaker 1: Or so you assume. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But as far as moves, yeah, I would say, you know,
Speaker 2: there's there's so many and I.
Speaker 1: Could just kind of let it happen naturally.
Speaker 2: But basically one person should always be received. Everyone should
Speaker 2: be receiving pleasure simultaneously.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and sometimes you sometimes you want to just sit back,
Speaker 1: I can watch, yeah, and just kind of play a
Speaker 1: little here, play a little there. You know, doesn't have
Speaker 1: to always be hardcore three way involvement.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also I mean I like, I like, I told
Speaker 2: my friend I sent her a porn because she told me,
Speaker 2: like what's the playbook, what's the rules?
Speaker 1: Like who does what?
Speaker 3: Do that?
Speaker 2: And like, yes, there you should watch maybe porn. But
Speaker 2: also porn can be really unrealistic when it comes to
Speaker 2: a threesome two like don't don't get carried away on
Speaker 2: like whatever your favorite threesome porn was, and think that
Speaker 2: you have to reenact in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's in any sexual experience, I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: A more advanced move was like maybe if the guy
Speaker 1: eats one pussy and pumps the other girl at the
Speaker 1: same time, couch and a couch, that's a little advanced.
Speaker 1: But if you know one person can ride with the
Speaker 1: other person rides a face.
Speaker 3: Right, right, right.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's actual terms for this anyway, just okay,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to touch on a couple.
Speaker 2: Of those, like reverse cowgirl, she's on the couch, cow
Speaker 2: girls eating pussy on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, calgars. We could be facing either way, getting Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that would be nice. You could face each other
Speaker 1: and she's right, he's just there, Yeah, he's just there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: underneath you both like a log. We'll call it.
Speaker 3: Reverse log.
Speaker 1: Two logs on a train. What's that salary snack with
Speaker 1: the raisins? No, my god, okay, whatever, anyway, I'm sure
Speaker 1: it's late, it's fun.
Speaker 2: We'll provide some diagrams on our on our the story
Speaker 2: and you'll you can see maybe even upload them to
Speaker 2: our website.
Speaker 3: Good idea, bamu.
Speaker 1: Okay, So the aftermath, I've touched on every step before,
Speaker 1: the before, the recruiting, the after. Now we're here, we've
Speaker 1: done it.
Speaker 3: You're done.
Speaker 1: You're feeling good.
Speaker 3: I keep thinking of her, are waking up.
Speaker 1: You need to chill with your faces. Everything's like, but no,
Speaker 1: you're scared. Okay, what now ending sex relationships after threesome experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like do you want to just have one off
Speaker 2: experiences or are you down Like if you find that
Speaker 2: right guest, is that someone you want to CONSI reoccurring
Speaker 2: a reoccurring guest?
Speaker 3: Or do you have a few reoccurring guests.
Speaker 1: Or is the rule that they get cut off immediately
Speaker 1: after right, because sometimes that's a rule with no contact
Speaker 1: with her after bybe maybe it's just a vacation, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe that's the whole point, or maybe you maintain it.
Speaker 1: But those things also need to discuss. Also as the guests,
Speaker 1: do you sleep, do you spend the night, do you stay?
Speaker 1: Do you cuddle? Right, don't say too long?
Speaker 3: I think the guests you really like.
Speaker 2: I hate people that don't get the fucking clue, like go,
Speaker 2: like leave, like we're tired, we don't want to talk anymore,
Speaker 2: or like you know.
Speaker 1: It's just get in the room. Read energies.
Speaker 3: This is don't be selfish.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, I've said I spend the
Speaker 1: night the next day and then just dip out in
Speaker 1: the morning. I've had threesoms where we cuddle, but usually
Speaker 1: it's time to go. I thought through some of his
Speaker 1: friends and it's like not a big deal at all.
Speaker 1: The next day, you know, I.
Speaker 2: Mean unless they unless the couple is like really and
Speaker 2: you know, making you feel like they want you to stay,
Speaker 2: they want you to join them with to breakfast, you know,
Speaker 2: and you feel comfortable with that, then fine. But if
Speaker 2: they're not really like giving you any more guidance as
Speaker 2: to where to go from here, it means it's.
Speaker 3: Time to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh yeah, I think as a couple, like
Speaker 2: you have to kind of have that conversation like what
Speaker 2: what is that? What is what is? What is the
Speaker 2: end game? You have to think about the end game
Speaker 2: a little bit, you know, and.
Speaker 1: Don't wake up the next day. Don't get so drunk
Speaker 1: so that the next day like what have I done?
Speaker 1: Don't overthink ship. Sometimes a good fucking is a good
Speaker 1: fun just laugh, it's just fun. You have to remember
Speaker 1: it's just your secret. Yeah, it's your little secret. Don't
Speaker 1: overthink it. I always give a girl that I think
Speaker 1: is a little less cute than you, I'm gonna be good.
Speaker 3: Is that a rule?
Speaker 1: You're gonna get the finest bitch? I mean kind of
Speaker 1: sometimes Yeah, it depends.
Speaker 2: I mean for me, I mean, I guess in my
Speaker 2: one experience not being the guest like I knew I
Speaker 2: was definitely I felt like I was more attracted attractive
Speaker 2: to him than she was to him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it's not even I mean, but that's.
Speaker 2: Just that's so lame. It's kind of whack. It's kind
Speaker 2: of insecure. We gotta work on that. That's not a
Speaker 2: good that's not a good sound advice. You know, you
Speaker 2: don't agree. She's like, no, actually, I stand by what
Speaker 2: I said.
Speaker 1: I mean, I said what I said. What I said,
Speaker 1: I said, it said my statement. I said my statement,
Speaker 1: and that's what I said, and I stand I want
Speaker 1: to say it's my statement. No, it is insecure, and
Speaker 1: that's not true because if it's a bitch on my fuck,
Speaker 1: it's a bitch fat right, But am I gonna fucking
Speaker 1: fuck the finest is big booty is bitch? Pick her
Speaker 1: for me and my man? Yeah? No, probably not.
Speaker 2: Well you I mean, do you want to sleep with her?
Speaker 2: Would you sleep with her on your own?
Speaker 1: Maybe? Yeah? I mean, I guess it depends how bad
Speaker 1: I want to sleep with her. I said my statement.
Speaker 3: She said what she said, y'all. I can see that.
Speaker 1: I guess it's like your homegirl, unless it's like.
Speaker 3: I can see how that would. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's insecure, but it's just how I feel. Sometimes that's
Speaker 1: real and it's real. And it also depends how your
Speaker 1: man makes you feel, because if you're like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and as a man, if you are praising this
Speaker 2: new person way more because it's new pussy and it's
Speaker 2: more and your wife has not seen you this excited
Speaker 2: in a long time. To bring it down.
Speaker 1: Bringing down, pretend you're gonna lose your chances quick, chilled
Speaker 1: the fuck out. Don't even be smirking too hard, naggad,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, some specialists I don't know. Okay, I'm lying.
Speaker 1: I've had I've had three. Oh I was the guest. Okay,
Speaker 1: never mind, whatever, you know, you know what you like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what he likes to, So get a little
Speaker 1: different kid. So I think that concludes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think those I think you know those are
Speaker 2: you want to tell your whole stories? Yeah, So basically
Speaker 2: my horror story happened in Spain. I was out there
Speaker 2: with Trembling Lippe and we were in a bisa with
Speaker 2: a group of friends and we were out dancing, having
Speaker 2: a really great time, drinking a lot of tequila end stincts,
Speaker 2: and we were dancing and this girl came up to
Speaker 2: me and I just I don't know, I was just
Speaker 2: in the mood. It was yeah, I was spontaneous. I
Speaker 2: was like, you know what, I want to share this with.
Speaker 2: I'm in Spain. I want to share this with this person.
Speaker 2: Met the girl I guess she was. She was not
Speaker 2: as cute as me for sure, and.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, let's do this. Sure she'll do.
Speaker 2: She was English, and we went back to the conto
Speaker 2: and she ended up getting fucked up, really really fucked up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like she drank too much, did a bunch of too much.
Speaker 1: And drugs. Uh yeah, drugs. Also, we don't condone this.
Speaker 1: Some drugs help threesome.
Speaker 3: Some drugs that may some drugs may not help for
Speaker 3: the man.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for the man that's happened. They can enhance
Speaker 1: the threesome or they could not.
Speaker 3: Not you need to not be excitable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so then we, uh you.
Speaker 3: Know, we started having sex and.
Speaker 2: I was really connecting with him, like that's what it
Speaker 2: was really cool because that was like, that was my
Speaker 2: first time not being a guest. And I understood the
Speaker 2: like why you feel empowered because I know him? He
Speaker 2: doesn't she doesn't know him. You know what I mean,
Speaker 2: this is our thing. We've talked about it. We're making
Speaker 2: eye contact. It's sexy, like it.
Speaker 1: Could take your sex life to a whole different level. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of times if once the persons the guest leaves,
Speaker 1: the sex with the couple can heighten.
Speaker 2: Right. So, then at some point in the during the sex,
Speaker 2: she kept trying to like, She's like, I'm a dominate tricks.
Speaker 2: And she kept trying to coach me, coach us, what
Speaker 2: coach me? No, coach him and me? And then at
Speaker 2: some point I got fucking annoyed dominate tricks.
Speaker 1: She said what else?
Speaker 3: She said, I'm a dominate tricks.
Speaker 1: You know, I like, put your leg up. She's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna tell me that to do.
Speaker 2: And I was like, really, in my I was feeling
Speaker 2: super empowered, like, shut the fuck up, bitch.
Speaker 1: No, you're not a dominate trick.
Speaker 2: No, I'm the dom I make the rules, bitch, love key.
Speaker 2: That's how I felt, and that's how I acted. I
Speaker 2: was kind of a bitch. I'm not gonna lie. Uh So,
Speaker 2: I you know, I was like, I think you should leave.
Speaker 2: And so, you know, thank god the guy that I
Speaker 2: was sharing this experience with you know, could read me
Speaker 2: and was on the same page and was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you should, and I was like, yes, that's how you
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 3: Teamwork.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because sometimes it's too much. It's too much, too
Speaker 1: much energy, and you're gonna be able to like we're good.
Speaker 3: It's too much.
Speaker 2: She shared a few things that made me uncomfortable, and
Speaker 2: I was like, bit, she got to go.
Speaker 3: So anyway, she.
Speaker 2: Leaves and you know, we calm back down to the room. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is all happened on the balcony overlooking the ocean.
Speaker 1: You guys three someommed on the balcony. Oh wow.
Speaker 2: And so we went back into the room and then
Speaker 2: me and him continued to finish and then we ended
Speaker 2: up passing out for like maybe ten minutes, and his
Speaker 2: phone kept ringing and I was like, what the fuck
Speaker 2: was calling?
Speaker 3: And I see that.
Speaker 2: It's her and I ignore it. I'm like, no, bitch,
Speaker 2: like buy calls again. And I was like, we're gonna
Speaker 2: have to borrow.
Speaker 1: And then what happened? And he's like.
Speaker 2: You have to answer and I'm like fine, so answer
Speaker 2: and she's like hello.
Speaker 3: I'm like guess She's like, oh please I've I've fallen
Speaker 3: and I can't get up.
Speaker 1: I'm falling.
Speaker 2: I can't get up, literally that's what she said. Like
Speaker 2: I'm not fucking exaggerating. I was like like humpty dumpy,
Speaker 2: like what the fuck with the accent, with the accent
Speaker 2: crying please come help me, please please, And I was.
Speaker 3: Like, I'm such a bitch. I was like, let's leave her.
Speaker 1: You have to figure this shit out, like like I'm done.
Speaker 2: It's five am. I'm fucking tired, you know, like I
Speaker 2: can't get up. So then so, uh, his nice ass
Speaker 2: makes us go out there and taking mind we're staying
Speaker 2: in like a fortress city, like we're saying in old
Speaker 2: town Abisa. So it's like it's like built in to rock.
Speaker 2: So the stairs are like massive. You have to crawl
Speaker 2: up these massive stairs to get to the road.
Speaker 3: And we get to the top.
Speaker 2: Of the stairs and the bitch is laid out in
Speaker 2: the middle of the street with her dress up. She
Speaker 2: looked like she had been seizureing, like she had like
Speaker 2: a little bit of foam coming out of her cot bitch,
Speaker 2: I'm not even kidding. Her eyes were like rolling in
Speaker 2: the back of her head, and she was just crying,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my god, so we had
Speaker 2: to get her up, sit her down.
Speaker 1: He was like, you gotta go get her water. So
Speaker 1: then I had to fuck it.
Speaker 2: I was so annoyed at that point because I had
Speaker 2: to crawl down those big ass stairs again, go get
Speaker 2: the bitch some water, come back, crawl up the fucking
Speaker 2: fortress stairs. And at this point, we're calling her a
Speaker 2: cab and she finally, finally the cab comes. He doesn't
Speaker 2: want to take her because clearly she's fucked up.
Speaker 3: She's staying like.
Speaker 2: On the the other side of the island, and it
Speaker 2: was like seven to sixty pounds to get her there.
Speaker 2: So we basically paid for the pussy because okay, we
Speaker 2: put this bitch in a cab for sixty pounds, and then.
Speaker 3: The next day she what's that? I still have it?
Speaker 3: My god, I should play the what's that message?
Speaker 1: Where is my phone? Have you never played this?
Speaker 2: Fo?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god, this is great, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, it's so oh my god.
Speaker 3: Where is she? Oh man? Do I still have it?
Speaker 1: Did she better have it? Oh?
Speaker 3: Where is she? When did this happen?
Speaker 1: Did it happened July? Oh?
Speaker 3: Here it is here?
Speaker 1: It is hi, had I.
Speaker 5: Was calling you, I couldn't get through. I just wanted
Speaker 5: to know that I'm home safe.
Speaker 1: So thank you very very much.
Speaker 5: You doesn't understand how much you've made my trip, and
Speaker 5: it really means not to me. I don't think i'll
Speaker 5: get to see you guys before you leave. Well, no,
Speaker 5: I'm coming to lap you guys. Whenever you come to London,
Speaker 5: come to Playboy.
Speaker 1: Like she's the Playboy London.
Speaker 5: Maybe you're not in the casino because obviously I'm got
Speaker 5: that kind of count.
Speaker 1: Okay, well be face.
Speaker 5: I'm so good to meet you guys. Wait, so I
Speaker 5: forgot to say I'm so sorry about that little like
Speaker 5: thing when I was throwing up outside did and sit
Speaker 5: it on the floor.
Speaker 1: That probably makes you even you probably saw that. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, to know this fucking girl. Yeah, but actually,
Speaker 1: don't judge me for that. Don't judge, oh my god.
Speaker 1: And on that note, we would never played that. You
Speaker 1: never played that for me? All right? Oh about that
Speaker 1: me just throwing up on the floor, Well I'm all right,
Speaker 1: Well I've made it. Don't judge me off.
Speaker 3: That choose your threesome partner's wife.
Speaker 1: Don't want the tequila interfere as much as it interfere
Speaker 1: with the air coage judgment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's my horror story because that was a
Speaker 2: hot ass fucking man.
Speaker 1: Oh well, that wraps up tonight's episode of Top five
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Speaker 2: She comes to you bitches, and she's really bombed at
Speaker 2: everything she does.
Speaker 1: Ooh yeah, alright, good night.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it is am yep, good.
Speaker 1: Night, this is fun.
Speaker 3: Good night? Can I Good Moms after dark?
Speaker 1: You know you don't gotta do est you.
Speaker 2: I don't really do extra I even go away. Well,
Speaker 2: well you don't need daddy, now you get away.
Speaker 5: It's that word you need to gotta do estrats this moment.
Speaker 2: And I already know what to think.
Speaker 1: How you talking to me? Now? Have we rolling in