1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:21,355 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. So 2 00:00:21,995 --> 00:00:27,835 Speaker 1: it begins, one of Trump's Georgia co defendants is already 3 00:00:27,955 --> 00:00:32,195 Speaker 1: pre flipping on him and his Marri Lago employee four 4 00:00:32,315 --> 00:00:35,835 Speaker 1: got rid of his Trump supplied lawyer and recanted testimony 5 00:00:35,875 --> 00:00:38,355 Speaker 1: that almost got him brought up on perjury charges. And 6 00:00:38,475 --> 00:00:41,795 Speaker 1: guess who he was lying for? Because Actory changed his tune, 7 00:00:41,915 --> 00:00:45,075 Speaker 1: That's when Jack Smith added the new charges against Trump 8 00:00:45,115 --> 00:00:49,915 Speaker 1: and the new co defendant. So ignore for a moment 9 00:00:50,355 --> 00:00:55,035 Speaker 1: the Republican debate noise, and the Trump primetime surrender stunt noise, 10 00:00:55,315 --> 00:00:58,395 Speaker 1: and the Mark Meadows I am above the law noise. 11 00:00:58,995 --> 00:01:01,795 Speaker 1: I will get to each of them presently and focus 12 00:01:01,875 --> 00:01:05,275 Speaker 1: instead on the rather remarkable spectacle of East, one of 13 00:01:05,275 --> 00:01:07,955 Speaker 1: the defendants in Georgia and one of the key people 14 00:01:07,995 --> 00:01:11,995 Speaker 1: in Florida suddenly turning on Trump and doing so before 15 00:01:12,115 --> 00:01:15,515 Speaker 1: they even got plea deals from the prosecutors. I mean, 16 00:01:15,555 --> 00:01:21,115 Speaker 1: there is flipping and then there is pre flipping. The 17 00:01:21,235 --> 00:01:25,635 Speaker 1: former chairman of the Georgia Republican Party, David Schaeffer, more importantly, 18 00:01:25,675 --> 00:01:29,435 Speaker 1: the former quote chairman end quote of the Georgia Fake 19 00:01:29,555 --> 00:01:33,635 Speaker 1: Electors slate filed to switch his part of the trial 20 00:01:33,915 --> 00:01:37,155 Speaker 1: to federal court, and in his argument for doing so, 21 00:01:37,195 --> 00:01:41,435 Speaker 1: he added a small detail that this is all Donald 22 00:01:41,555 --> 00:01:47,275 Speaker 1: Trump's doing. Quote mister Schaeffer and the other Republican electors 23 00:01:47,395 --> 00:01:51,715 Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty election right. Schaeffer's attorneys acted at 24 00:01:51,755 --> 00:01:56,595 Speaker 1: the direction of the incumbent president and other federal officials. 25 00:01:56,995 --> 00:02:00,715 Speaker 1: Attorneys for the President and mister Shaffer specifically instructed mister 26 00:02:00,715 --> 00:02:05,475 Speaker 1: Schaeffer verbally and in writing that the Republican electors meeting 27 00:02:05,595 --> 00:02:09,315 Speaker 1: and casting their ballots on December fourteenth, twenty twenty, was 28 00:02:09,515 --> 00:02:14,035 Speaker 1: consistent with Council's advice and was necessary to preserve the 29 00:02:14,115 --> 00:02:20,115 Speaker 1: presidential election contest. Schaefer even handed over more evidence, not 30 00:02:20,315 --> 00:02:23,875 Speaker 1: just to Fannie Willis, but to the public that December 31 00:02:23,955 --> 00:02:28,395 Speaker 1: fourteenth sham elector's vote he just referenced there. Schaeffer released 32 00:02:28,435 --> 00:02:32,475 Speaker 1: a copy of the transcript of that gathering of the 33 00:02:32,555 --> 00:02:36,715 Speaker 1: coven and the guy who addressed them beforehand, who told 34 00:02:36,715 --> 00:02:40,755 Speaker 1: the electors what to do, was Ray Smith, who was 35 00:02:40,795 --> 00:02:43,475 Speaker 1: another one of Trump's co defendants in this case. And oh, 36 00:02:43,555 --> 00:02:46,115 Speaker 1: by the way, Trump's local attorney of record in Atlanta, 37 00:02:46,395 --> 00:02:49,755 Speaker 1: who walked the suckers through their part in the coup attempt, 38 00:02:51,075 --> 00:02:54,195 Speaker 1: and Schaeffer also released an email from another attorney named 39 00:02:54,235 --> 00:02:59,435 Speaker 1: Alex Kaufman with the joyously self incriminating subject line quote 40 00:03:00,035 --> 00:03:06,435 Speaker 1: Elector delegation reminder. Kaufman wrote Schaefer and copied at least 41 00:03:06,475 --> 00:03:10,715 Speaker 1: seven other electors that the group of frauds must meet 42 00:03:10,755 --> 00:03:15,155 Speaker 1: on December fourteenth, twenty twenty and quote cast their ballots 43 00:03:15,195 --> 00:03:19,235 Speaker 1: in favor of President Trump and specifically per the Georgia 44 00:03:19,315 --> 00:03:23,075 Speaker 1: election Code. It is essential, he wrote, that our delegates 45 00:03:23,155 --> 00:03:28,115 Speaker 1: act and vote in the exact manner as if Governor 46 00:03:28,235 --> 00:03:32,475 Speaker 1: Kemp has certified the presidential contest in favor of President Trump, 47 00:03:33,955 --> 00:03:40,155 Speaker 1: as if Kaufman's email describes this as the best chance 48 00:03:40,235 --> 00:03:45,355 Speaker 1: for Georgia to ultimately support the president's re election and 49 00:03:45,435 --> 00:03:50,675 Speaker 1: pay tribute to Barbie. As if an email from Kaufman 50 00:03:50,715 --> 00:03:52,595 Speaker 1: would seem to be an odd bit of evidence to 51 00:03:52,715 --> 00:03:55,475 Speaker 1: use in order to kick Trump in the groin, because 52 00:03:55,595 --> 00:03:58,595 Speaker 1: Kaufman insists he has no direct link to Trump and 53 00:03:58,755 --> 00:04:01,235 Speaker 1: was nothing more than an attorney for the Fulton County 54 00:04:01,275 --> 00:04:05,115 Speaker 1: GOP and a district council for the state GOP. Except oh, 55 00:04:05,195 --> 00:04:09,195 Speaker 1: by the way, Kaufman just happened to be on the 56 00:04:09,235 --> 00:04:13,555 Speaker 1: call when Trump called Georgia's Secretary of State Brad Raffensberger 57 00:04:13,755 --> 00:04:17,595 Speaker 1: and asked her that eleven seven hundred and eighty vote total. 58 00:04:18,235 --> 00:04:18,795 Speaker 2: Oops. 59 00:04:19,675 --> 00:04:23,515 Speaker 1: Kaufman's email does not have big, flashing red arrows pointing 60 00:04:23,675 --> 00:04:26,475 Speaker 1: to a picture of Trump with the word guilty, guilty, 61 00:04:26,675 --> 00:04:31,195 Speaker 1: guilty stamped on his forehead, But only because that would 62 00:04:31,235 --> 00:04:37,115 Speaker 1: be redundant. Now, now, don't misunderstand David Schaeffer's motivations here. 63 00:04:37,435 --> 00:04:41,835 Speaker 1: He has not suddenly seen the light and doth repent himself. 64 00:04:42,315 --> 00:04:46,595 Speaker 1: Shaeffer says, it is all Trump's and Smith's fault. The 65 00:04:46,715 --> 00:04:50,035 Speaker 1: DA says, no, no, no, not just them. You knew 66 00:04:50,075 --> 00:04:53,235 Speaker 1: what you were doing too. But when the starting point 67 00:04:53,275 --> 00:04:57,675 Speaker 1: of your defense is to say, Hi, my name's David. 68 00:04:57,715 --> 00:05:01,235 Speaker 1: Here's Donald Trump. Please take him from me, I'm handing 69 00:05:01,355 --> 00:05:04,675 Speaker 1: him to you. Donald Trump is in bigger trouble than 70 00:05:04,675 --> 00:05:08,875 Speaker 1: and he can understand. And now we see what that 71 00:05:09,035 --> 00:05:13,515 Speaker 1: means in action. This bubblehead running the stolen classified secrets 72 00:05:13,555 --> 00:05:17,995 Speaker 1: case against Trump in Florida, Judge Eileen Cannon couldn't understand 73 00:05:18,035 --> 00:05:21,195 Speaker 1: why Jack Smith was still using the grand jury to 74 00:05:21,315 --> 00:05:24,635 Speaker 1: investigate the case that he'd already brought indictments on and 75 00:05:24,715 --> 00:05:29,275 Speaker 1: why there were now superseding indictments. Well, hell, she's still 76 00:05:29,315 --> 00:05:31,875 Speaker 1: been a judge presiding in a courtroom for less than 77 00:05:31,915 --> 00:05:34,675 Speaker 1: one month out of her life, so it's unlikely she 78 00:05:34,835 --> 00:05:39,315 Speaker 1: understands anything. She is far more experienced covering pre natal 79 00:05:39,515 --> 00:05:43,995 Speaker 1: yoga and why tomatoes might reduce tumors for articles she 80 00:05:44,195 --> 00:05:48,275 Speaker 1: was to write for the newspaper, the Miami Nuevo Herald. Boy, 81 00:05:48,395 --> 00:05:51,715 Speaker 1: I wish I was making that up. So Jack Smith 82 00:05:51,835 --> 00:05:55,915 Speaker 1: answered her query in a now unsealed filing and revealed, 83 00:05:55,955 --> 00:05:58,915 Speaker 1: matter of factly that he was doing this because the 84 00:05:58,955 --> 00:06:02,515 Speaker 1: District of Columbia Grand Jury had been hearing evidence that 85 00:06:02,595 --> 00:06:06,555 Speaker 1: maybe one of the witnesses, a Lago employee number four, 86 00:06:06,915 --> 00:06:10,835 Speaker 1: should be charged with perjury because while he still had 87 00:06:10,875 --> 00:06:15,315 Speaker 1: Trump's stooge Stanley Woodward as his attorney, Number four testified 88 00:06:15,315 --> 00:06:18,475 Speaker 1: that he didn't know nothing about nobody erasing no security 89 00:06:18,555 --> 00:06:22,035 Speaker 1: video from those servers, and never heard nobody say the 90 00:06:22,075 --> 00:06:26,275 Speaker 1: boss wanted the servers deleted. And then somebody told employee 91 00:06:26,315 --> 00:06:28,595 Speaker 1: number four, hey, you know what, you may have just 92 00:06:28,635 --> 00:06:32,035 Speaker 1: committed some light perjury. And he did see the light, 93 00:06:32,435 --> 00:06:35,355 Speaker 1: and he doth repented and he got a new attorney 94 00:06:35,355 --> 00:06:38,115 Speaker 1: from the Public Defender's Office in DC. And the next 95 00:06:38,155 --> 00:06:41,595 Speaker 1: thing you knew, employee number four, who is Trump's IT 96 00:06:42,075 --> 00:06:46,355 Speaker 1: guy at marri A Lago, you sealed Taveres was remembering 97 00:06:46,555 --> 00:06:49,795 Speaker 1: clear as a bell. And suddenly the guy who actually 98 00:06:49,875 --> 00:06:52,675 Speaker 1: said the boss wanted the servers deleted had become the 99 00:06:52,755 --> 00:06:57,355 Speaker 1: latest indicted victim of the maximum Everything Trump touches dies 100 00:06:57,795 --> 00:07:00,955 Speaker 1: and his name is Carlos Diliveria, and he is still 101 00:07:00,955 --> 00:07:04,275 Speaker 1: a defendant. But if you want to draft somebody in 102 00:07:04,315 --> 00:07:08,395 Speaker 1: your face, tannessy, who flips first in Florida League, pick 103 00:07:08,555 --> 00:07:11,795 Speaker 1: the Olivera And oh yeah, as soon as Taveres got 104 00:07:11,795 --> 00:07:14,715 Speaker 1: his own attorney and not the same one, Walt Nauda 105 00:07:14,795 --> 00:07:19,755 Speaker 1: has Smith filed three more accounts against Trump. Two. There 106 00:07:19,755 --> 00:07:24,075 Speaker 1: are two asides from Smith's submission to Judge Cannon. One 107 00:07:24,675 --> 00:07:27,795 Speaker 1: is that he wrapped up that DC grand jury last week, 108 00:07:28,075 --> 00:07:30,515 Speaker 1: which means it is not going to be filing a 109 00:07:30,635 --> 00:07:35,235 Speaker 1: third prong of indictments against Trump on say, the fundraising scam, 110 00:07:35,355 --> 00:07:38,075 Speaker 1: the fundraising to cure a stolen election Trump knew was 111 00:07:38,115 --> 00:07:42,595 Speaker 1: not stolen, although another grand jury could easily do that later. 112 00:07:42,915 --> 00:07:47,155 Speaker 1: The second aside is that this weasel. Stanley Woodward said 113 00:07:47,155 --> 00:07:51,155 Speaker 1: he knew exactly how to resolve the remaining conflict in 114 00:07:51,195 --> 00:07:54,635 Speaker 1: the case, namely that he used to represent you Sealed 115 00:07:54,675 --> 00:07:59,115 Speaker 1: Taveres and still represents Walt Nauda, and you Sealed Taveres 116 00:07:59,195 --> 00:08:04,515 Speaker 1: may testify against Waltnuda. Whatward suggested that the government should 117 00:08:05,315 --> 00:08:10,275 Speaker 1: not call you Sealed Tabaris as a witness. Problem solved, 118 00:08:11,875 --> 00:08:15,115 Speaker 1: Woodward and Trump did not add you picked a fine 119 00:08:15,195 --> 00:08:17,635 Speaker 1: time to leave me, you seeal. 120 00:08:18,995 --> 00:08:22,835 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, oh, Nancy. 121 00:08:23,315 --> 00:08:27,755 Speaker 3: You make divine time to leave me, You seal, We've 122 00:08:27,835 --> 00:08:31,275 Speaker 3: already counts against me and your plea deal. 123 00:08:32,515 --> 00:08:36,275 Speaker 2: The boss wants server to lead it, won't he? You 124 00:08:36,355 --> 00:08:41,635 Speaker 2: make divine time to leave me? You see, thank you, 125 00:08:41,715 --> 00:08:42,555 Speaker 2: NaN's ifiast. 126 00:08:45,275 --> 00:08:48,795 Speaker 1: I don't know how you let me get away with 127 00:08:48,835 --> 00:08:52,235 Speaker 1: this now, speaking of plea deals and flipping for the 128 00:08:52,275 --> 00:08:56,955 Speaker 1: first time, I am wondering if maybe Mark Meadows hasn't 129 00:08:57,635 --> 00:09:00,995 Speaker 1: It seems to me and this is guesswork that if 130 00:09:01,035 --> 00:09:03,795 Speaker 1: Meadows really is a witness for the prosecution in the 131 00:09:03,835 --> 00:09:06,675 Speaker 1: federal cases, he could have come up with a more 132 00:09:06,755 --> 00:09:11,755 Speaker 1: elegant and self polishing excuse when he and his lawyers 133 00:09:11,755 --> 00:09:14,595 Speaker 1: demanded that Fani Willis delay his arrest and booking in 134 00:09:14,635 --> 00:09:17,755 Speaker 1: Atlanta until at least after the hearing on his motion 135 00:09:17,875 --> 00:09:20,075 Speaker 1: to have his part of the Georgia case moved into 136 00:09:20,155 --> 00:09:24,515 Speaker 1: federal court. And of course, almost any other excuse would 137 00:09:24,515 --> 00:09:26,595 Speaker 1: have been more elegant than the one they used, which 138 00:09:26,635 --> 00:09:30,115 Speaker 1: is about his revelatory and infuriating a statement, as we 139 00:09:30,195 --> 00:09:33,155 Speaker 1: have seen in this case and the other four thousand 140 00:09:33,275 --> 00:09:37,875 Speaker 1: nominees for that honor are all things Trump said. Willis 141 00:09:37,875 --> 00:09:40,595 Speaker 1: replied that Meadows would not get a delay that she 142 00:09:40,675 --> 00:09:44,075 Speaker 1: had given everybody two weeks as a courtesy, and he 143 00:09:44,275 --> 00:09:46,995 Speaker 1: was no different than anybody else, which is when Meadows 144 00:09:47,035 --> 00:09:50,995 Speaker 1: did his best Marie Antoinette impression. While I can understand 145 00:09:51,035 --> 00:09:54,195 Speaker 1: your assertion that mister Meadow's quote is no different than 146 00:09:54,235 --> 00:09:57,515 Speaker 1: any other criminal defendant in Fulton County, writes his lawyer, 147 00:09:57,915 --> 00:10:02,355 Speaker 1: we both know that is simply not true when it 148 00:10:02,435 --> 00:10:06,675 Speaker 1: comes to our request. He is a former federal official. 149 00:10:08,195 --> 00:10:13,275 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, to say my client, Mark Meadows is 150 00:10:13,355 --> 00:10:17,715 Speaker 1: above the effing law is stupid enough, But to say 151 00:10:17,755 --> 00:10:20,595 Speaker 1: he is above the effing law because he was in 152 00:10:20,635 --> 00:10:25,795 Speaker 1: the Trump administration is imbecilic. That's more of a reason 153 00:10:25,835 --> 00:10:29,435 Speaker 1: to arrest him. It still, though may not be the 154 00:10:29,435 --> 00:10:33,035 Speaker 1: most imbecilic. At least John Eastman had the presence of 155 00:10:33,075 --> 00:10:36,155 Speaker 1: mind to just surrender and use the opportunity to whine 156 00:10:36,195 --> 00:10:41,235 Speaker 1: again about he and authoritarianism are the real victims here 157 00:10:41,275 --> 00:10:47,235 Speaker 1: and yay despotism and stuff like that. The most imbecilic 158 00:10:47,675 --> 00:10:51,395 Speaker 1: is from who else but Jeff Clark. That would be 159 00:10:51,835 --> 00:10:55,875 Speaker 1: ballot seizing would be Attorney General, who resembles nothing more 160 00:10:55,915 --> 00:11:00,915 Speaker 1: than a stumbling buffoon just looking for an airplane propeller 161 00:11:00,995 --> 00:11:05,235 Speaker 1: to walk into. Jeff Clark says his case should also 162 00:11:05,275 --> 00:11:07,835 Speaker 1: be switched to federal court because being in the Trump 163 00:11:07,915 --> 00:11:13,355 Speaker 1: administration makes him immune to state prosecution. What Clark was 164 00:11:13,395 --> 00:11:16,595 Speaker 1: immune to was a good legal education is what Clark 165 00:11:16,675 --> 00:11:21,115 Speaker 1: was immune to. Willis says she will enter arrest warrants 166 00:11:21,435 --> 00:11:25,155 Speaker 1: against Jeff Clark and Mark Meadows at twelve thirty Friday 167 00:11:25,195 --> 00:11:29,035 Speaker 1: afternoon Eastern daylight time, and the presiding judge has given 168 00:11:29,075 --> 00:11:32,475 Speaker 1: the DA until three pm today Wednesday to submit her 169 00:11:32,515 --> 00:11:35,355 Speaker 1: written reply, and then he will decide what to do 170 00:11:35,475 --> 00:11:38,275 Speaker 1: about the arrests of both of them without any further 171 00:11:38,395 --> 00:11:43,075 Speaker 1: back and forth. Based on the case so far, one 172 00:11:43,115 --> 00:11:47,715 Speaker 1: assumes Meadows will work something out and maybe delay the 173 00:11:47,835 --> 00:11:50,715 Speaker 1: arrest or maybe get a transferred to federal court or 174 00:11:50,795 --> 00:11:55,675 Speaker 1: who knows and Clark, Oh, too bad, Jeff, somebody starting 175 00:11:55,755 --> 00:11:59,675 Speaker 1: up those propellers. The defendants, by the way, were actually 176 00:11:59,675 --> 00:12:03,195 Speaker 1: offered some helpful scheduling advice from the DA's office on 177 00:12:03,235 --> 00:12:07,595 Speaker 1: this very subject yesterday. For the quickest turnaround, the fastest 178 00:12:07,715 --> 00:12:09,915 Speaker 1: smile for your mugshot, and then get back in your 179 00:12:09,955 --> 00:12:13,915 Speaker 1: lawyer's car for the buck. They were advised to turn 180 00:12:13,995 --> 00:12:19,155 Speaker 1: themselves in at the Rice Street Jail in Atlanta at 181 00:12:19,755 --> 00:12:24,475 Speaker 1: three am. And of course, Trump, never passing up an 182 00:12:24,475 --> 00:12:28,635 Speaker 1: opportunity to martyr himself, has picked tomorrow night, but in 183 00:12:28,715 --> 00:12:32,675 Speaker 1: prime time to turn himself in. Sergeants take him down 184 00:12:32,755 --> 00:12:36,355 Speaker 1: and book them. Sergeant take them down, Sergeant Bookham, Sergeant Bookam, 185 00:12:36,355 --> 00:12:39,475 Speaker 1: Sergeant take them down. The Guardian reported that reported it 186 00:12:39,515 --> 00:12:42,355 Speaker 1: had been set with the DA's office on Monday, still 187 00:12:42,395 --> 00:12:44,515 Speaker 1: waiting for him to finally go out of his gourd 188 00:12:44,755 --> 00:12:47,835 Speaker 1: and do the whole glorious wantson Norma Desmond march down 189 00:12:47,875 --> 00:12:51,075 Speaker 1: the staircase from the end of Sunset Boulevard thing and funny, 190 00:12:51,595 --> 00:12:55,275 Speaker 1: funny him bringing up fleeing to Russia in his private plane, 191 00:12:55,475 --> 00:12:59,115 Speaker 1: wasn't it Of all the things? What was all that about? 192 00:12:59,355 --> 00:13:01,835 Speaker 1: Send them in to cover all the airports. Trump may 193 00:13:01,875 --> 00:13:07,355 Speaker 1: be wearing a disguise like human Trumpe already has his 194 00:13:07,435 --> 00:13:11,635 Speaker 1: counterprogramming set for tonight and the Republican debate. He has 195 00:13:11,715 --> 00:13:15,955 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson's flatulent lap sitting quote interview unquote with him, 196 00:13:16,075 --> 00:13:20,235 Speaker 1: which was recorded last weekend sometime. To add to the topicality. 197 00:13:20,435 --> 00:13:24,435 Speaker 1: Although I got to say this Republican debate with Vivek 198 00:13:24,555 --> 00:13:28,275 Speaker 1: Ramaswami lying about being a nine to eleven truther and 199 00:13:28,275 --> 00:13:31,155 Speaker 1: then getting caught on tape nine to eleven true thing 200 00:13:31,235 --> 00:13:34,355 Speaker 1: an hour later the day before the debate, and one 201 00:13:34,395 --> 00:13:36,835 Speaker 1: of the candidates, Larry Elder saying he was going to 202 00:13:36,955 --> 00:13:40,355 Speaker 1: sue the RNC because it had excluded him, because it 203 00:13:40,435 --> 00:13:45,995 Speaker 1: will not count the Rasmussen poles. The Rasmussen poles, the 204 00:13:45,995 --> 00:13:48,155 Speaker 1: ones that are run by the two Nebushas who founded 205 00:13:48,435 --> 00:13:52,035 Speaker 1: ESPN and then sold it for like twelve dollars. Oh man, 206 00:13:52,195 --> 00:13:55,275 Speaker 1: this is some compelling stuff. I might be able to 207 00:13:55,275 --> 00:14:02,675 Speaker 1: watch this debate tonight, sober I said, might the full 208 00:14:02,715 --> 00:14:06,315 Speaker 1: preview of the carnival in Milwaukee that's next. This is countdown. 209 00:14:08,595 --> 00:14:20,115 Speaker 1: This is countdown with Keith Elberman. Postscripts to the news, 210 00:14:20,515 --> 00:14:25,275 Speaker 1: some headlines, some updates, some snarks, some predictions. Date line Milwaukee, Hello, 211 00:14:25,715 --> 00:14:29,235 Speaker 1: and as the Republican primary looms. Rule one of politics, 212 00:14:29,275 --> 00:14:34,875 Speaker 1: even Republican politics, is hey, lie, what the hell? They're 213 00:14:34,875 --> 00:14:39,715 Speaker 1: only voters. But if your lie is a denial and 214 00:14:39,795 --> 00:14:44,155 Speaker 1: the thing you're denying is on tape, don't lie. The 215 00:14:44,235 --> 00:14:48,315 Speaker 1: Atlantic published an interview with the Vivek Ramaswamy. God knows 216 00:14:48,355 --> 00:14:51,475 Speaker 1: why he is the Ron Desantus of Scott Walkers, but 217 00:14:51,635 --> 00:14:55,475 Speaker 1: in it, reporter John Hendrickson quoted Ramaswami as delving again 218 00:14:56,115 --> 00:14:59,435 Speaker 1: into nine to eleven Trutherism and saying it was appropriate 219 00:14:59,475 --> 00:15:02,595 Speaker 1: to ask, quote, how many federal agents were on the 220 00:15:02,635 --> 00:15:04,315 Speaker 1: planes that hit the twin towers? 221 00:15:04,355 --> 00:15:05,115 Speaker 2: On quote. 222 00:15:05,555 --> 00:15:08,395 Speaker 1: Ramaswami went on CNN Monday night and said the quote 223 00:15:08,435 --> 00:15:10,675 Speaker 1: was inaccurate and he didn't say it, and he was 224 00:15:10,715 --> 00:15:14,395 Speaker 1: talking about federal agents on January sixth, which is dumb enough. 225 00:15:14,435 --> 00:15:17,915 Speaker 1: But you heard this guy. He's another dumb guy with 226 00:15:18,035 --> 00:15:21,075 Speaker 1: money who thinks money means he's less dumb than he is. 227 00:15:21,555 --> 00:15:24,075 Speaker 1: He laughed about the quote. He mocked the quote. He 228 00:15:24,115 --> 00:15:27,355 Speaker 1: said his campaign had asked a reporter to provide the clip, 229 00:15:27,595 --> 00:15:30,795 Speaker 1: but the reporter couldn't do that because the clip didn't exist. 230 00:15:31,315 --> 00:15:34,075 Speaker 1: He never said anything about federal agents on the planes 231 00:15:34,115 --> 00:15:36,435 Speaker 1: on nihil even are you kidding me? And what do 232 00:15:36,475 --> 00:15:38,755 Speaker 1: you mean? Just because they didn't send it to us, 233 00:15:38,835 --> 00:15:43,435 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean the Atlantic didn't have the clip. There's 234 00:15:43,435 --> 00:15:48,395 Speaker 1: a different, switted trap. I think it is legitimate to 235 00:15:48,395 --> 00:15:51,555 Speaker 1: say how many police, how many federal agents were on 236 00:15:51,555 --> 00:15:53,075 Speaker 1: the planes that hit the twin towers? 237 00:15:53,435 --> 00:15:55,555 Speaker 2: Like I didn't we wanted maybe the answer zero, probably 238 00:15:55,555 --> 00:15:56,555 Speaker 2: a zero for all I know. 239 00:15:56,555 --> 00:16:03,715 Speaker 1: Right, Absolute moron, Absolute flaming moron. You know, I've spent 240 00:16:03,835 --> 00:16:08,675 Speaker 1: my career just assuming that all the people who could 241 00:16:08,715 --> 00:16:11,355 Speaker 1: have done my various jobs better than I did just 242 00:16:11,875 --> 00:16:15,115 Speaker 1: didn't get the breaks somehow, and therefore I never had 243 00:16:15,155 --> 00:16:19,155 Speaker 1: to compete with any of them. This guy, who is 244 00:16:19,195 --> 00:16:23,475 Speaker 1: a flaming moron, believes he is actually smart because he 245 00:16:23,595 --> 00:16:27,675 Speaker 1: accidentally made some money and he might not be the 246 00:16:27,755 --> 00:16:31,635 Speaker 1: dumbest guy running for the Republican nomination. Miami mayor Francis 247 00:16:31,715 --> 00:16:35,435 Speaker 1: Suarez tweeted on August eleventh that if a candidate could 248 00:16:35,515 --> 00:16:38,515 Speaker 1: not make the requirements for the first debate that candidate 249 00:16:38,515 --> 00:16:43,555 Speaker 1: should drop out, even if that candidate was him. Well, 250 00:16:43,755 --> 00:16:47,755 Speaker 1: guess who didn't make the debate. Mayor Suarez has done 251 00:16:47,795 --> 00:16:51,875 Speaker 1: the right thing, of course, he's deleted the tweet. And 252 00:16:51,915 --> 00:16:55,115 Speaker 1: then there's Larry Elder, who in the horror movie would 253 00:16:55,115 --> 00:16:58,675 Speaker 1: be the first candidate laid low by the monster. In fact, 254 00:16:58,715 --> 00:17:00,835 Speaker 1: he would be the first candidate laid low by the 255 00:17:00,875 --> 00:17:04,275 Speaker 1: monster in a series of horror movies. He's been humiliated 256 00:17:04,275 --> 00:17:06,875 Speaker 1: in a Senate race, in a governor's race, and on 257 00:17:06,995 --> 00:17:09,875 Speaker 1: radio and television, And as of last night, he said 258 00:17:09,875 --> 00:17:12,755 Speaker 1: he was suing the Republican National Committee because it would 259 00:17:12,795 --> 00:17:17,435 Speaker 1: not recognize Rasmussen reports, which showed him above the polling 260 00:17:17,515 --> 00:17:21,115 Speaker 1: threshold for inclusion in the debate. Rasmussen is the Trump 261 00:17:21,275 --> 00:17:26,475 Speaker 1: friendly polster so unreliable the RNC does not even credit them. 262 00:17:26,595 --> 00:17:28,995 Speaker 1: And Elder is the guy who's actually just supposed to 263 00:17:28,995 --> 00:17:31,715 Speaker 1: be on stage to advocate for Trump in absentia anyway. 264 00:17:32,715 --> 00:17:36,155 Speaker 1: Perry Johnson is also suing, he says, but he of 265 00:17:36,235 --> 00:17:38,955 Speaker 1: course just wants a judge to make it mandatory that 266 00:17:39,035 --> 00:17:43,755 Speaker 1: you go and google who Perry Johnson is. And Carrie 267 00:17:43,835 --> 00:17:47,635 Speaker 1: Lake still bringing record profits to the world's camera filter 268 00:17:47,795 --> 00:17:51,355 Speaker 1: industry announced yesterday that of course Trump shouldn't be at 269 00:17:51,395 --> 00:17:55,595 Speaker 1: the debate because he's quote the Babe ruth of all 270 00:17:55,635 --> 00:17:59,235 Speaker 1: the politics. By comparing Trump to Babe Ruth, I am 271 00:17:59,275 --> 00:18:02,155 Speaker 1: assuming that Kerry means they are both fat and have 272 00:18:02,235 --> 00:18:06,115 Speaker 1: both been dead since nineteen forty eight, and carry lake 273 00:18:06,195 --> 00:18:09,555 Speaker 1: with the weather. And if there is not enough sleas 274 00:18:09,675 --> 00:18:12,795 Speaker 1: on the stage. There are the anchors, Martha mccownum and 275 00:18:12,835 --> 00:18:16,195 Speaker 1: Brett bar of Fox. It is Bear who has most 276 00:18:16,235 --> 00:18:20,035 Speaker 1: stridently defended his image for a decade or more as 277 00:18:20,115 --> 00:18:24,115 Speaker 1: the non opinion hard news guy on that propaganda channel, 278 00:18:24,555 --> 00:18:27,195 Speaker 1: even though the dominion file showed that after the twenty 279 00:18:27,195 --> 00:18:29,595 Speaker 1: twenty election it was Brett Behar who was trying to 280 00:18:29,595 --> 00:18:34,995 Speaker 1: convince management to retract Fox's experts call of Arizona for Biden, 281 00:18:35,315 --> 00:18:38,595 Speaker 1: and that rather than defending hard news and journalism and 282 00:18:38,755 --> 00:18:42,795 Speaker 1: you know, truth and risking his own status at Fox 283 00:18:42,835 --> 00:18:47,275 Speaker 1: by protesting the new circle of Hell to which Murdoch 284 00:18:47,355 --> 00:18:51,675 Speaker 1: relegated the channel now instead. Earlier this month, brettbar bought 285 00:18:51,715 --> 00:18:55,515 Speaker 1: a new house in Palm Beach, Florida for thirty seven 286 00:18:55,635 --> 00:18:58,555 Speaker 1: million dollars. So if you're going to make me watch 287 00:18:58,635 --> 00:19:02,795 Speaker 1: this thing tonight? I mean, is there anything special happening 288 00:19:02,835 --> 00:19:05,235 Speaker 1: at the end of it? It's the Republicans. Is the 289 00:19:05,235 --> 00:19:08,475 Speaker 1: candidate who does the poorest? Is he thrown onto the 290 00:19:08,595 --> 00:19:12,155 Speaker 1: razor wire in the Rio grand or something? Because then 291 00:19:12,235 --> 00:19:19,275 Speaker 1: maybe I'll watch elsewhere. Dateline the Willow Grove Park Mall, Pennsylvania, 292 00:19:19,955 --> 00:19:23,795 Speaker 1: How have the mighty fallen? A jewelry shop there in 293 00:19:23,835 --> 00:19:26,875 Speaker 1: that mall bought for sixty eight thousand dollars two watches 294 00:19:27,115 --> 00:19:30,515 Speaker 1: from a foreign gentleman. One was a Patek Philippe and 295 00:19:30,515 --> 00:19:33,515 Speaker 1: the other was a Diamond Rolex. And then they turned 296 00:19:33,555 --> 00:19:36,355 Speaker 1: out to be gifts that had been presented to the 297 00:19:36,395 --> 00:19:41,355 Speaker 1: former President of Brazil, JayR. Balsonaro, which is a crazy 298 00:19:41,435 --> 00:19:44,795 Speaker 1: coincidence because the guy who sold them to the watch 299 00:19:44,915 --> 00:19:51,195 Speaker 1: store was the former personal assistant to Jayre Balsonaro. What 300 00:19:51,275 --> 00:19:55,875 Speaker 1: are the odds Bolsonnaro may be arrested. Those were not 301 00:19:56,155 --> 00:20:01,795 Speaker 1: his property, they were property of the Brazilian state. And lastly, Dateline, Richmond, 302 00:20:02,395 --> 00:20:05,235 Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed the new darling of the Right singer 303 00:20:05,275 --> 00:20:10,275 Speaker 1: Oliver Anthony. The tour of the conservative protest anthem rich 304 00:20:10,355 --> 00:20:14,795 Speaker 1: Men north of Richmond, because after just fifteen days he 305 00:20:14,955 --> 00:20:18,075 Speaker 1: is no longer the new darling of the right. The 306 00:20:18,195 --> 00:20:23,555 Speaker 1: often racist song blames low wages on liberal politicians instead 307 00:20:23,595 --> 00:20:29,675 Speaker 1: of you know, conservative employers, and Oliver Anthony with his rich, 308 00:20:29,755 --> 00:20:35,035 Speaker 1: defiant southern twang was the new Joe the Plumber or somebody. 309 00:20:35,075 --> 00:20:37,435 Speaker 1: And then and then it turned out that the rich, 310 00:20:37,515 --> 00:20:41,155 Speaker 1: defiant southern twang is not his real voice. 311 00:20:41,635 --> 00:20:43,395 Speaker 4: I mean, we are the melting pot of the world, 312 00:20:43,435 --> 00:20:45,795 Speaker 4: and that's what makes us strong, is our diversity, and 313 00:20:45,835 --> 00:20:47,755 Speaker 4: we need to learn to harness that and appreciate it 314 00:20:48,195 --> 00:20:50,435 Speaker 4: and not use it as a political tool to keep 315 00:20:50,475 --> 00:20:52,035 Speaker 4: everyone separate from each other, you. 316 00:20:51,995 --> 00:20:57,755 Speaker 1: Know, the online right reaction Now Oliver Anthony is a 317 00:20:58,035 --> 00:21:03,555 Speaker 1: psy op and he's the CIA's Millie Vanilli. I prefer 318 00:21:03,715 --> 00:21:08,075 Speaker 1: to call him the conservatives Milkshake Duck. I am sorry 319 00:21:08,075 --> 00:21:13,435 Speaker 1: to report to you that Milkshake Duck is not racist. 320 00:21:27,315 --> 00:21:29,675 Speaker 1: Still ahead on this all new edition of Countdown. He's 321 00:21:29,715 --> 00:21:32,555 Speaker 1: been gone nine years and it still feels wrong, like 322 00:21:32,555 --> 00:21:35,915 Speaker 1: it's a mistake somewhere. It's something that must be fixable. 323 00:21:36,515 --> 00:21:40,355 Speaker 1: Memories of my late friend Tony Gwynn coming up in 324 00:21:40,435 --> 00:21:43,235 Speaker 1: things I promised not to tell first time for the 325 00:21:43,275 --> 00:21:45,835 Speaker 1: daily roundup of the mis grants, morons and Dunning Kruger 326 00:21:45,835 --> 00:21:50,395 Speaker 1: effects specimens who constitute two days Whire's persons in the world, 327 00:21:50,835 --> 00:21:54,995 Speaker 1: the Bronze Eric Adams. They come here, they all come here. 328 00:21:55,115 --> 00:21:58,395 Speaker 1: How do these mayors find me? Gothamist reports that the 329 00:21:58,475 --> 00:22:01,315 Speaker 1: New York City mayor, who posted a selfie yesterday of 330 00:22:01,355 --> 00:22:05,475 Speaker 1: his hand touching the whaling wall, his b B wrist 331 00:22:05,555 --> 00:22:09,435 Speaker 1: almost clanking against its surface, has not only spent money 332 00:22:09,475 --> 00:22:12,235 Speaker 1: to make a video showing how great Adams is handling 333 00:22:12,315 --> 00:22:16,995 Speaker 1: the influx of migrants here, but that the city's Office 334 00:22:17,115 --> 00:22:20,155 Speaker 1: of the Mayor has ordered New York City agencies to 335 00:22:20,315 --> 00:22:24,035 Speaker 1: post that video and pump it, and has indicated city 336 00:22:24,075 --> 00:22:27,595 Speaker 1: officials will be judged on how well they distribute the video. 337 00:22:28,035 --> 00:22:31,635 Speaker 1: An email reads quote, we will be reporting to the 338 00:22:31,675 --> 00:22:36,355 Speaker 1: mayor who meets the deadline tomorrow. Don't blame me. I 339 00:22:36,435 --> 00:22:41,035 Speaker 1: voted for the garbage commissioner, Lady, not this guy, the 340 00:22:41,115 --> 00:22:43,875 Speaker 1: runner up, Governor Greg Abbott of Texas. Look, we know 341 00:22:43,955 --> 00:22:47,595 Speaker 1: he's a scumbag. He's an embittered scumbag working out his 342 00:22:47,675 --> 00:22:51,315 Speaker 1: psychoses against people who cannot defend themselves. But This is 343 00:22:51,475 --> 00:22:55,395 Speaker 1: bad even for him. Mayor Bass of Los Angeles reports 344 00:22:55,395 --> 00:23:01,555 Speaker 1: that another bus full of migrants arrived from Texas on Monday, which, 345 00:23:01,635 --> 00:23:04,235 Speaker 1: as she notes, means Abbot put them in the bus 346 00:23:04,275 --> 00:23:06,195 Speaker 1: at an hour at which he would have known the 347 00:23:06,235 --> 00:23:10,795 Speaker 1: bus would have to be traveling towards and through Tropical 348 00:23:10,835 --> 00:23:15,635 Speaker 1: Storm Hillary as it traveled towards southern California. Greg Abbott 349 00:23:15,675 --> 00:23:19,155 Speaker 1: really is among the worst humans alive. But our winner 350 00:23:19,195 --> 00:23:22,955 Speaker 1: is Janine Piro of Fox and the Republican National Committee 351 00:23:22,995 --> 00:23:26,635 Speaker 1: Research Group. They each took a clip of President Biden 352 00:23:26,675 --> 00:23:30,035 Speaker 1: in Hawaii saying hello to a rescue dog and the 353 00:23:30,115 --> 00:23:33,835 Speaker 1: dog was wearing boots, by taking a solid twenty seconds 354 00:23:33,835 --> 00:23:36,235 Speaker 1: to point out that the dog was wearing boots and 355 00:23:36,315 --> 00:23:40,035 Speaker 1: saying to the dog, that's some hot ground man, and 356 00:23:40,115 --> 00:23:42,475 Speaker 1: saying to the people, look at him wearing these boots. 357 00:23:43,235 --> 00:23:46,755 Speaker 1: The RNC tweeted that Biden had been quote distracted by 358 00:23:46,795 --> 00:23:51,515 Speaker 1: a dog, possibly because the guy who has raped their party. 359 00:23:51,595 --> 00:23:54,995 Speaker 1: Trump has never had a dog and never even said 360 00:23:54,995 --> 00:23:57,915 Speaker 1: something nice about a dog, and has made analogies about 361 00:23:57,995 --> 00:24:00,555 Speaker 1: dogs that make it clear he doesn't understand what dogs 362 00:24:00,675 --> 00:24:04,035 Speaker 1: are or that dogs are far more popular than he 363 00:24:04,155 --> 00:24:07,115 Speaker 1: is to say nothing of far more valuable and worthy. 364 00:24:07,675 --> 00:24:11,155 Speaker 1: And Pierro, who we last saw complaining that her jaguar 365 00:24:11,235 --> 00:24:14,555 Speaker 1: had broken down, was part of the Fox crew lying 366 00:24:14,595 --> 00:24:18,235 Speaker 1: about this by insisting Biden was talking about a firefighter's boots. 367 00:24:19,235 --> 00:24:21,555 Speaker 1: Pierro was corrected by somebody else on her show who 368 00:24:21,555 --> 00:24:23,995 Speaker 1: told her he was talking to the dog. Oh what 369 00:24:24,155 --> 00:24:28,635 Speaker 1: a guy, the disgraced ex judge snarled, talking to a dog. 370 00:24:29,675 --> 00:24:32,755 Speaker 1: I'm surprised Piro didn't demand he be impeached for it. 371 00:24:33,355 --> 00:24:37,475 Speaker 1: The RNC and Janine Hooters pants on a seventy two 372 00:24:37,555 --> 00:24:44,355 Speaker 1: year old woman Piro two days Worst Persons and the 373 00:24:44,435 --> 00:25:03,115 Speaker 1: World to the number one story on the Countdown on 374 00:25:03,195 --> 00:25:05,275 Speaker 1: Things I promised not to tell. I thought of him 375 00:25:05,315 --> 00:25:07,955 Speaker 1: the other day because somebody reminded me about the day 376 00:25:07,995 --> 00:25:11,875 Speaker 1: in August nineteen ninety four when the baseball season ended 377 00:25:12,435 --> 00:25:15,635 Speaker 1: after the owners forced the players out on strike, and 378 00:25:15,715 --> 00:25:19,915 Speaker 1: he went out without complaint, even though at that moment 379 00:25:19,955 --> 00:25:23,635 Speaker 1: he was batting three ninety four, and he was in 380 00:25:23,675 --> 00:25:26,915 Speaker 1: fact getting better as the season was wearing on. He 381 00:25:26,995 --> 00:25:30,475 Speaker 1: had hit four to twenty three in the preceding twenty 382 00:25:30,515 --> 00:25:34,515 Speaker 1: eight games, and his chances of becoming the first four 383 00:25:34,595 --> 00:25:38,115 Speaker 1: hundred hitter in half a century were increasing, and then 384 00:25:38,115 --> 00:25:42,395 Speaker 1: the season ended. Suddenly. His name was Anthony Keith Gwynn, 385 00:25:43,035 --> 00:25:45,395 Speaker 1: and I had met him one day in spring training 386 00:25:45,435 --> 00:25:47,235 Speaker 1: when he came up and introduced himself as if I 387 00:25:47,235 --> 00:25:50,235 Speaker 1: wouldn't have known who he was. And we stayed professional 388 00:25:50,235 --> 00:25:54,195 Speaker 1: friends for twenty seven years until his death in June 389 00:25:54,235 --> 00:25:58,915 Speaker 1: of twenty fourteen. And thinking of Tony gwyn whose absence 390 00:25:58,995 --> 00:26:02,195 Speaker 1: is still perceived in San Diego in baseball for that matter, 391 00:26:02,795 --> 00:26:06,275 Speaker 1: as a shock, as something that can't be right, something 392 00:26:06,315 --> 00:26:09,955 Speaker 1: that's desperately wrong that needs somehow to be corrected, I 393 00:26:09,995 --> 00:26:12,635 Speaker 1: thought of my best experience with him. It was the 394 00:26:12,715 --> 00:26:16,475 Speaker 1: night of October seventeenth, nineteen ninety eight. By then, Tony 395 00:26:16,515 --> 00:26:20,235 Speaker 1: had already played seventeen major league seasons. He had already 396 00:26:20,235 --> 00:26:23,035 Speaker 1: won more batting titles than anybody except Ty Cobb and 397 00:26:23,075 --> 00:26:26,395 Speaker 1: Hannis Wagner. The last year he had not batted three 398 00:26:26,515 --> 00:26:29,715 Speaker 1: hundred was nineteen eighty two, and by that night of 399 00:26:29,755 --> 00:26:32,795 Speaker 1: October seventeenth, nineteen ninety eight, he had already been to 400 00:26:32,835 --> 00:26:35,035 Speaker 1: the World Series once and to the All Star Game 401 00:26:35,115 --> 00:26:38,395 Speaker 1: thirteen times. He had already hit so well for so 402 00:26:38,635 --> 00:26:42,395 Speaker 1: long that when he shocked his admirers earlier that year 403 00:26:42,435 --> 00:26:45,875 Speaker 1: with the first OH for fifteen hitless streak of his career. 404 00:26:46,595 --> 00:26:50,915 Speaker 1: The then Los Angeles Dodgers broadcaster Ross Porter calculated that 405 00:26:50,995 --> 00:26:53,875 Speaker 1: Tony Gwynn could have extended that streak from OH for 406 00:26:54,035 --> 00:26:58,515 Speaker 1: fifteen to OH four one thy one hundred and nine 407 00:26:59,475 --> 00:27:02,675 Speaker 1: and still have a career batting average of three hundred. 408 00:27:04,675 --> 00:27:07,755 Speaker 1: He was about to bat five hundred in that World Series, 409 00:27:07,835 --> 00:27:09,915 Speaker 1: his second. He was about to hit a two run 410 00:27:09,955 --> 00:27:11,475 Speaker 1: homer in the first game and then a two run 411 00:27:11,555 --> 00:27:13,755 Speaker 1: single in the third game that gave his team its 412 00:27:13,835 --> 00:27:17,715 Speaker 1: only leads of the entire series. And with all that, 413 00:27:18,835 --> 00:27:23,635 Speaker 1: Tony gwyn was still nervous and excited before Game one. 414 00:27:24,195 --> 00:27:26,995 Speaker 1: You're telling me I'm going to get to meet Bob Shepherd, 415 00:27:27,515 --> 00:27:32,115 Speaker 1: the Bob Shepherd oh Man. As the nineteen ninety eight 416 00:27:32,115 --> 00:27:35,875 Speaker 1: World Series between Tony's Padres and the Yankees became a reality, 417 00:27:36,235 --> 00:27:38,075 Speaker 1: he had said something about how much he was looking 418 00:27:38,115 --> 00:27:41,355 Speaker 1: forward to finally getting to play in Yankee Stadium, about 419 00:27:41,435 --> 00:27:46,195 Speaker 1: hearing the legendary public address announcer Bob Shepard introduce him 420 00:27:46,475 --> 00:27:48,555 Speaker 1: as he came to bat for the first time in 421 00:27:48,635 --> 00:27:51,755 Speaker 1: Game one, how that was going to be one of 422 00:27:51,835 --> 00:27:57,035 Speaker 1: the thrills of his career, and he was absolutely serious. 423 00:27:57,835 --> 00:28:00,795 Speaker 1: So I took it a step further. I explained to 424 00:28:00,875 --> 00:28:03,035 Speaker 1: mister Shepherd, who I knew pretty well that the star 425 00:28:03,115 --> 00:28:06,115 Speaker 1: of the Padres was a huge of his, a huge 426 00:28:06,195 --> 00:28:08,915 Speaker 1: fan of baseball history, the one man I had ever 427 00:28:08,995 --> 00:28:12,195 Speaker 1: met in the game who seemed genuinely awestruck by people 428 00:28:12,275 --> 00:28:17,355 Speaker 1: whose greatness or prominence he had far since eclipsed. Bob said, 429 00:28:17,875 --> 00:28:21,755 Speaker 1: take me to him. They talked, as I remember it, 430 00:28:22,115 --> 00:28:25,635 Speaker 1: for ten or fifteen minutes, and Tony Gwinn sprayed questions 431 00:28:25,675 --> 00:28:28,995 Speaker 1: like he sprayed bass hits. Bob, you get nervous. What 432 00:28:29,035 --> 00:28:31,315 Speaker 1: do you do to stay focused? I know you're a teacher. 433 00:28:31,515 --> 00:28:34,275 Speaker 1: What do you try to convey to kids? I took 434 00:28:34,315 --> 00:28:36,875 Speaker 1: a couple of pictures of the two of them, actual camera, 435 00:28:37,035 --> 00:28:41,235 Speaker 1: pre phone days, Tony's beaming in all of them. I 436 00:28:41,275 --> 00:28:43,795 Speaker 1: walked mister Shepherd back up to the press box after that, 437 00:28:43,875 --> 00:28:46,875 Speaker 1: and then asked him for another favor. At some point 438 00:28:46,915 --> 00:28:49,795 Speaker 1: after that very brief world series ended, I heard from 439 00:28:49,835 --> 00:28:53,115 Speaker 1: Tony Gwinn, are you kidding me? How did you do this? 440 00:28:54,195 --> 00:28:58,115 Speaker 1: I had gotten Bob Shepherd to record his introduction of 441 00:28:58,155 --> 00:29:02,035 Speaker 1: Tony Gwinn coming to bat now budding for San Diego, 442 00:29:02,195 --> 00:29:11,275 Speaker 1: the right fielder number nineteen, Tony Gwynn, number nineteen. I 443 00:29:11,355 --> 00:29:15,075 Speaker 1: stuck it, and not me doing the impression, Actually, Bob Shephard. 444 00:29:15,395 --> 00:29:18,395 Speaker 1: I stuck it on one of those talking photo frame devices, 445 00:29:18,395 --> 00:29:20,435 Speaker 1: do you remember those? And I slipped in the photo 446 00:29:20,475 --> 00:29:23,595 Speaker 1: of Tony with Bob and I sent it to Tony. It's 447 00:29:23,715 --> 00:29:27,355 Speaker 1: in my trophy case. Tony giggled. I put it next 448 00:29:27,355 --> 00:29:30,355 Speaker 1: to my silver bats. I keep pushing play. I'm gonna 449 00:29:30,355 --> 00:29:33,155 Speaker 1: wear out the battery. I told him I hadn't made 450 00:29:33,155 --> 00:29:36,675 Speaker 1: another copy when that happened. But wait a minute, I said, 451 00:29:36,915 --> 00:29:39,915 Speaker 1: you put it next to your silver bats. Yeah, let 452 00:29:39,915 --> 00:29:42,115 Speaker 1: they give you for leading the league. This is the 453 00:29:42,155 --> 00:29:45,035 Speaker 1: coolest thing. I even try to say it along with him. 454 00:29:46,635 --> 00:29:50,515 Speaker 1: That was Tony Gwinn. I was privileged to witness a 455 00:29:50,555 --> 00:29:53,915 Speaker 1: couple of other of Tony Gwinn's great moments. You may 456 00:29:53,915 --> 00:29:56,475 Speaker 1: already know the story about Tony Gwinn and Ted Williams. 457 00:29:56,555 --> 00:29:59,955 Speaker 1: And Ted Williams remained the last man two hit four hundred, 458 00:30:00,235 --> 00:30:03,075 Speaker 1: at least in part because the strike of nineteen ninety 459 00:30:03,075 --> 00:30:05,675 Speaker 1: four that I mentioned at the beginning cost Gwynn his 460 00:30:05,715 --> 00:30:08,315 Speaker 1: best chance at it. You may also know about the 461 00:30:08,395 --> 00:30:11,875 Speaker 1: years of conversations between these two guys from San Diego 462 00:30:11,955 --> 00:30:16,875 Speaker 1: who just happened to combine for fifteen batting championships. It 463 00:30:16,995 --> 00:30:20,075 Speaker 1: culminated at the nineteen ninety nine All Star Game in Boston, 464 00:30:20,115 --> 00:30:23,355 Speaker 1: when it was in part to visit with Tony Gwinn 465 00:30:23,435 --> 00:30:26,075 Speaker 1: that Ted Williams even bothered to go to Fenway Park, 466 00:30:26,555 --> 00:30:30,275 Speaker 1: and he created a baseball history moment to transcend almost 467 00:30:30,395 --> 00:30:33,715 Speaker 1: all others when he was engulfed by all the present 468 00:30:33,795 --> 00:30:37,755 Speaker 1: day stars on the field by the mound and basically 469 00:30:37,795 --> 00:30:41,955 Speaker 1: they would not let him leave. I was the pregame 470 00:30:41,955 --> 00:30:44,555 Speaker 1: host and the National League dugout reporter for the Fox 471 00:30:44,595 --> 00:30:47,195 Speaker 1: broadcast of that All Star Game in nineteen ninety nine, 472 00:30:47,395 --> 00:30:50,755 Speaker 1: And so when Tony Gwinn bounded back from the Eternal 473 00:30:50,835 --> 00:30:54,275 Speaker 1: Love Inn near the mound with Ted Williams, he found me. 474 00:30:55,075 --> 00:30:58,075 Speaker 1: Did you see that he had to give somebody a hugs? 475 00:30:58,075 --> 00:31:01,075 Speaker 1: It was me? Did you see that that was us 476 00:31:01,155 --> 00:31:06,515 Speaker 1: with Ted Williams? Man, Tony didn't just treat the greats 477 00:31:06,555 --> 00:31:09,835 Speaker 1: that way. In spring training of nineteen eighty seven, as 478 00:31:09,875 --> 00:31:12,875 Speaker 1: I alluded to earlier, I was covering the Angels form 479 00:31:12,875 --> 00:31:15,155 Speaker 1: my station in Los Angeles, and I'll have to say 480 00:31:15,195 --> 00:31:17,195 Speaker 1: I was pretty good at it. But I could have 481 00:31:17,235 --> 00:31:21,395 Speaker 1: sat around the gene Autry Hotel in Palm Springs, California 482 00:31:21,715 --> 00:31:25,835 Speaker 1: for hours at a stretch without anybody knowing about it 483 00:31:26,235 --> 00:31:31,635 Speaker 1: or who I was. And one afternoon, the Padres arrived 484 00:31:31,875 --> 00:31:34,915 Speaker 1: at that hotel on the three to ten from Yuma 485 00:31:35,075 --> 00:31:37,315 Speaker 1: or something, and they stomped past the pool on the 486 00:31:37,315 --> 00:31:39,515 Speaker 1: way to their rooms, and I saw Tony gwyn who 487 00:31:39,555 --> 00:31:41,515 Speaker 1: at that point had already had won one of his 488 00:31:41,595 --> 00:31:44,835 Speaker 1: batting Championships and had one of his World Series trips 489 00:31:44,915 --> 00:31:47,115 Speaker 1: in the books and three of his All Star games. 490 00:31:47,155 --> 00:31:50,595 Speaker 1: I saw him peel away and walk towards me. Hey, 491 00:31:50,995 --> 00:31:54,435 Speaker 1: he said, tentatively, mister Olverman, my name's Tony Gwynn. I 492 00:31:54,435 --> 00:31:56,915 Speaker 1: played for the Padres. I watch you on Channel five 493 00:31:56,995 --> 00:32:00,955 Speaker 1: every night. It's an honor. I actually laughed. I know 494 00:32:00,995 --> 00:32:05,795 Speaker 1: you're kidding, mister Gwinn, but thanks, he wasn't kidding. I 495 00:32:05,835 --> 00:32:09,555 Speaker 1: had to ask him to stop calling me mister. Not 496 00:32:09,715 --> 00:32:12,035 Speaker 1: long after that he would start calling me mister, just 497 00:32:12,075 --> 00:32:16,835 Speaker 1: to needle me. If you ever saw Tony Gwinn or 498 00:32:16,915 --> 00:32:19,715 Speaker 1: heard him interviewed or heard him work for ESPN later 499 00:32:20,675 --> 00:32:24,995 Speaker 1: what you hoped Tony Gwinn was like he was like then, 500 00:32:24,995 --> 00:32:27,555 Speaker 1: I haven't even gotten into the charitable work, the health 501 00:32:27,555 --> 00:32:31,755 Speaker 1: awareness about smokeless tobacco and deep vein thrombosis that he did, 502 00:32:31,915 --> 00:32:34,875 Speaker 1: the fact that he stayed in San Diego when the 503 00:32:34,915 --> 00:32:39,675 Speaker 1: bigger stages beckoned via free agency. I doubt anybody in 504 00:32:39,915 --> 00:32:44,075 Speaker 1: baseball history, maybe sports history, ever handed out more respect 505 00:32:45,075 --> 00:32:48,275 Speaker 1: or and this is an odd thing in sports. I 506 00:32:48,315 --> 00:32:52,235 Speaker 1: doubt anybody in baseball history ever handed out more reassurance. 507 00:32:53,355 --> 00:32:55,395 Speaker 1: When he hit that batting slump I mentioned in the 508 00:32:55,435 --> 00:32:58,155 Speaker 1: summer of nineteen ninety eight, it was nothing. He would 509 00:32:58,195 --> 00:33:00,475 Speaker 1: have a higher batting average in nineteen ninety nine and 510 00:33:00,515 --> 00:33:02,635 Speaker 1: two thousand and two thousand and one than he did 511 00:33:02,675 --> 00:33:04,915 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight. I did a little pe on 512 00:33:04,955 --> 00:33:08,835 Speaker 1: him for Sports Illustrated about the giving out reassurance part. 513 00:33:09,035 --> 00:33:11,115 Speaker 1: Let me just read you the end of that piece. 514 00:33:11,995 --> 00:33:14,715 Speaker 1: When I saw Gwinn in the dugout at Dodger Stadium, 515 00:33:14,755 --> 00:33:17,515 Speaker 1: he was holding a small metallic device in one hand, 516 00:33:17,795 --> 00:33:20,675 Speaker 1: so I asked him about the hamstring he had aggravated 517 00:33:20,915 --> 00:33:23,595 Speaker 1: reaching for cal Ripken's double at the All Star Game. 518 00:33:23,915 --> 00:33:26,955 Speaker 1: I pointed at the machine and asked, is that your 519 00:33:27,035 --> 00:33:33,795 Speaker 1: electric stimulator? Is that your stem? Gwynn laughed hard. Now, man, 520 00:33:34,115 --> 00:33:35,955 Speaker 1: that's my mini CD player. 521 00:33:36,635 --> 00:33:37,595 Speaker 2: Will you relax? 522 00:33:39,475 --> 00:33:42,075 Speaker 1: What I would not give to have him reassuring me 523 00:33:42,155 --> 00:33:45,155 Speaker 1: that has that sense that something is wrong, that Tony 524 00:33:45,195 --> 00:33:48,315 Speaker 1: Gwinn is supposed to be in San Diego and he's not. 525 00:33:49,475 --> 00:33:53,675 Speaker 1: Has that sense surges up again in me as strongly 526 00:33:53,715 --> 00:33:58,595 Speaker 1: as ever, how I would pray to hear him reassure 527 00:33:58,635 --> 00:34:02,755 Speaker 1: me that I am just overreacting. What all of us 528 00:34:02,755 --> 00:34:05,355 Speaker 1: who knew him or just knew of him, would not 529 00:34:05,595 --> 00:34:10,835 Speaker 1: give to hear Tony Gwinn's little strangulated laugh again right now, 530 00:34:11,275 --> 00:34:29,995 Speaker 1: as he would say, will you relax? I've done all 531 00:34:29,995 --> 00:34:32,035 Speaker 1: the damage I can do here. Thank you for listening. 532 00:34:32,075 --> 00:34:34,155 Speaker 1: Countdown has come to you from our studios high at 533 00:34:34,155 --> 00:34:37,715 Speaker 1: top the Sports Capsule Building in New York. Here are 534 00:34:37,715 --> 00:34:40,275 Speaker 1: the credits. Most of the music arrange produced and performed 535 00:34:40,315 --> 00:34:42,795 Speaker 1: by Brian Ray and John Phillip Shanel. They are the 536 00:34:42,795 --> 00:34:48,035 Speaker 1: Countdown musical directors. All orchestration and keyboards by John Phillip Shanelle. Guitars, bass, 537 00:34:48,075 --> 00:34:52,035 Speaker 1: and drums by Brian Ray, produced by Tko Brothers. Other 538 00:34:52,115 --> 00:34:54,835 Speaker 1: Beethoven selections have been arranged and performed by the group 539 00:34:54,875 --> 00:34:58,115 Speaker 1: No Horns Allowed. The sports music is the Oldriman theme 540 00:34:58,115 --> 00:35:00,915 Speaker 1: from ESPN two, and it was written by Mitch Warren 541 00:35:00,955 --> 00:35:05,035 Speaker 1: Davis courtesy of ESPN Inc. Musical comments by Nancy the 542 00:35:05,075 --> 00:35:08,075 Speaker 1: best baseball stadium organist ever. Our announcer today was my 543 00:35:08,115 --> 00:35:11,555 Speaker 1: friend John Dean. Everything else is pretty much my fault. 544 00:35:11,995 --> 00:35:14,235 Speaker 1: That's countdown for this, the nine hundred and fifty ninth 545 00:35:14,315 --> 00:35:17,635 Speaker 1: day since Donald Trump's first attempted coup against the democratically 546 00:35:17,635 --> 00:35:21,315 Speaker 1: elected government of the United States. Arrest him again while 547 00:35:21,355 --> 00:35:24,955 Speaker 1: we still can. The next scheduled countdown is tomorrow. Bulletin 548 00:35:25,035 --> 00:35:28,035 Speaker 1: says the news warrants till then. I'm Keith Oldremman. Good morning, 549 00:35:28,035 --> 00:35:30,955 Speaker 1: good afternoon, good night, and good luck. 550 00:35:37,955 --> 00:35:40,075 Speaker 2: You make the bank time leave me. 551 00:35:40,315 --> 00:35:45,555 Speaker 3: You seal were already counts against me and your plead. 552 00:35:47,155 --> 00:35:50,875 Speaker 2: The boss wants server to lead it, won't he. You 553 00:35:50,995 --> 00:35:52,475 Speaker 2: make the band time to leave me. 554 00:35:52,675 --> 00:35:59,155 Speaker 1: You see, Thank you and cephiost Countdown with Keith Oldreman 555 00:35:59,355 --> 00:36:03,835 Speaker 1: is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, 556 00:36:03,995 --> 00:36:07,555 Speaker 1: visit the Ihear Art radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever 557 00:36:07,595 --> 00:36:08,955 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts.