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Speaker 1: I'm listening to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot. Hey, welcome to the Blackout

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the people that left us

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Speaker 1: five star reviews. Okay, So I think something's happening where

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Speaker 1: we're getting the reviews later than y'all are posting them,

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Speaker 1: because both of these say that from the eleventh and twelfth,

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Speaker 1: remember reading these last two reviews. Maybe I did and

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Speaker 1: we just reading them again, but y'all let me know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that they're posting them late. But when

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Speaker 1: So the first one is from Little pistol Grip. This

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Speaker 2: I don't remember pistol Grip.

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Speaker 1: Little pistol Grip says Reformation five stars. I used to

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Speaker 1: be dirty on these podcast streets, just selling my body,

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Speaker 1: give them my ears to any podcast with sound air

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Speaker 1: to some strange casts I barely know. I'm a change man.

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Speaker 1: If that's what you want, you know the rest of y'all.

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Speaker 1: Everybody left feedback left the five star views we do.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into the comments that you left on our website.

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Speaker 1: So the first episode was our feedback episode. There was

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Speaker 1: episode twenty six ninety four from bg O L to

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Speaker 1: TBGWT and Apia says Karen and Rod, if you are

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Speaker 1: ever in frank that the Frankfurt airport. Tell me we

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Speaker 1: live twenty five minutes from it, and you are always

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Speaker 2: Family if we ever make it out there.

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Speaker 1: It's very nice of you. I feel weird about layover visits.

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Speaker 1: And here's why. The airport is never a convenient place

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Speaker 1: to meet. It's a hub of leaving or going, but

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Speaker 1: it's not a hub of hanging out, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like I've had friends that stop in Charlotte

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Speaker 1: and be like, I'm in your city right now, I'm like, oh, where,

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Speaker 1: what's up? Where you at? And it's like at the airport,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, nigga, that's like telling me you might as

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Speaker 1: well be on the airplane. The fuck I'm supposed to

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Speaker 1: do with that information?

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Speaker 2: Particularly I don't know how it is with you, but

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Speaker 2: particularly where we are. I was like, nigga, I can't

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Speaker 2: even go in there. Let's I got fucking ticket. Like,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have to come outside.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no place like you can catch an uber

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Speaker 1: and meet me somewhere. But if you're not, And I

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Speaker 1: don't blame you if you don't want to do that,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's reasonable, right, But it's like if

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Speaker 1: you're really not here.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're in a transit, transient state, a transitional pase. Yeah, airplane,

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Speaker 1: we're not. We're not gonna do it.

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Speaker 2: It's not enough time to do anything like stop.

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Speaker 6: I don't know anyway, it's just a ladd w People

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Speaker 6: do say that, yeah, and you'd be like where you

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Speaker 2: I got a thirty minute layoli, I can't make it that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be three hours, and it's still I'm

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Speaker 1: not paying for airport parking. I'm not taking an uber

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Speaker 2: Because if you come out, you got to go through

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Speaker 1: You gotta go all the way back in. Yeah. Like

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Speaker 1: it's just it's very inconvenient, Like.

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Speaker 2: It's just hilaryis when people say that, like that's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Also, it's never playing. It's never like they

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Speaker 1: always like, hey man, I got to layover. What you doing?

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Speaker 1: Like living my life anyway? No comments on the YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Let's check the Spotify and then, well, oh the poll.

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Speaker 1: The poll is, do you watch the NBA Playoffs? Yes,

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Speaker 1: a lot, a little or not really? Uh thirty eight

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Speaker 1: thirty two percent a little.

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Speaker 2: That's me because I'd be dozing off the sleeping shit.

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Speaker 1: And twenty nine percent not really. And then let's check

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Speaker 1: the poll on the Spotify and it's twenty one percent

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Speaker 1: a lot, twenty one percent a little, and fifty eight

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Speaker 1: percent not really. So way more people that don't really

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Speaker 1: watch it over there with the money.

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Speaker 6: To people they got shit to do, they find a

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Speaker 6: place bets uh ass ass and mo ass five was

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Speaker 1: James says. The last thing I want to watch is

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Speaker 1: an amateur porn scene where they have an NBA playoff

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Speaker 1: game playing on that TV set. Also, they are ware

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Speaker 1: there are way worse poring titles. Please don't google ghetto gaggers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, first of all, porn is so fucking

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Speaker 1: weird because clearly it's in our edd subconscious somewhere that

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Speaker 1: somebody won't see that shit because it's still around, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, like, I feel like porn

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Speaker 1: is this thing where everyone can only talk about what

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Speaker 1: they don't like or are discussed by in public. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but clearly behind the scenes some math is mathing to

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Speaker 1: where like because porn titles go defunct all the time

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Speaker 1: because people ain't watching them or whatever, Clearly some of

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Speaker 1: these motherfuckers got staying power because people that's into that shit.

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Speaker 2: Yes, some genres just never go away to the might

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Speaker 2: call them different things, but you're like, oh, that's what

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Speaker 2: they used to call that, but it's the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But clearly, like somebody want to see that shit.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who or why or what, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not even and I swear to God, I'm not judging.

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Speaker 1: Most people say they're not judging, they really be lying,

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Speaker 1: Like all this stuff is bullshit. We're so conflicted about

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Speaker 1: sex is human beings Like puritanical church shit is fucking

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Speaker 1: us up. Moralistic shit, our politics is fucking us up.

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Speaker 1: Our virtue signaling like aspirationally, what we want people to

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Speaker 1: think we're into. All that stuff is fucking people up.

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Speaker 1: Shame is fucking us up. How we feel about sex

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Speaker 1: work versus how we feel about the people that consume

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Speaker 1: sex work. All of that stuff is extremely like we're

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Speaker 1: extremely hypocritical. And I rarely see people talk about it

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Speaker 1: in this way, but it is very much that you know,

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Speaker 1: it's don't kN shame. But then the second anything is

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Speaker 1: one degree away from some shit you into, you shaming, like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I've seen people publicly do that a lot,

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Speaker 2: where you be like okay, cool, like like it's one

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Speaker 2: of the things. Well, I'm like, yeah, do what you

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Speaker 2: want to do, love what you want to love. But

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Speaker 2: if for them personally, if it's something outside they rim,

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Speaker 2: they'll do the same thing that they claim it everybody

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Speaker 2: else is doing.

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Speaker 1: We also assume anything somebody's watching their secretly either into

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Speaker 1: or they're hot in the secret, or they would do

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Speaker 1: that shit, which I don't think is true. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of fantasy is escapism and stuff.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of deep shit about it.

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Speaker 1: I just stick to the jokes because it's just easier

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Speaker 1: to make fun of it because I know, deep down

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Speaker 1: everybody knows what I'm talking about, even if they don't

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Speaker 1: want to admit it. They're like, oh, yeah, that is

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Speaker 1: funny because we all do watch that shit. But I

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Speaker 1: just think, honestly, at this point, you're probably the weirdo

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Speaker 1: if you're not. If you don't watch for people are

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Speaker 1: probably more wary of you than if you do. So

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Speaker 1: who fucking knows now, But yeah, it's funny when you say,

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Speaker 1: don't google ghetto gaggers. I'm not into it, you know,

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Speaker 1: I've seen those videos. It's not my thing. But when

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Speaker 1: And then the poe. Would you have given the highway

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Speaker 1: money back to the family? Yes? Or no?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I thought we already asked. Were you asked me this? Uh?

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Speaker 1: No, okay, Karen would have kept the money?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because, like you said, I couldn't be like real

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Speaker 2: is this hypothetical world that we up when we was

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Speaker 1: So say yes. Seventy eight percent say no with Karen

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Speaker 1: is having a reparation sell. That's the comment. Shit, the

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Speaker 1: Wood Jane says, a magic spending on those reparation cell items,

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Speaker 1: aarn Gullich says, if it's a real reparation cell the host,

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Speaker 1: so should be free for black people. Well that's what

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Speaker 2: Because she can't in there. She was like, I don't

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Speaker 2: for everything.

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Speaker 1: I got receipts, the receipt you paid for my great

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Speaker 1: great great grandfather, nigga. I want mom free shit.

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Speaker 2: I got the receipt, the boat, the change.

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Speaker 1: My family last name is Target. How you think we

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Speaker 1: I was in tears. I really needed that laugh. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I don't even remember what happened with the audio that

432
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Speaker 1: got messed up.

433
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: Remember, but it's playing the commercial the background. Oh stop, Yeah,

434
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 2: you're just playing.

435
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 1: People love mistakes. I mean, honestly, I don't. It's they're

436
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 1: honestly is I love? It brings us all back down

437
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 1: to even because it's like.

438
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:17,959
Speaker 2: Yes, nobody's perfect.

439
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: I can sit up here for hours to try to

440
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 1: think of something like funny, and I really I mean,

441
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,479
Speaker 1: I get paid money to be funny and all this stuff,

442
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 1: and then I could just be like, ooh, so I

443
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: played the wrong sounder. It's like, goddamn, I almost died

444
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 1: on the crane at work. I heard. The next episode

445
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: is twenty six ninety six. Chat GPT wrote this. Jamille says,

446
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: just from hearing the details, it's clear to me that

447
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: Tory Spelling is a no washcloth and just let the

448
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 1: water run down her legs white. Oh the evidence is

449
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 1: the evidence, I says. I checked the winning afro out

450
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: and it's impressive. Eve says, trip Advisor isn't the only

451
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 1: one guilty of fake reviews. Have you ever gone on

452
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 1: Yelp and you see a place hoigh rated and you

453
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 1: go there and the food looks nothing like the picks

454
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: and don't taste anything like it's described. That's why I

455
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: don't trust reviews anymore. Oh yeah, I was trying to

456
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 1: tell Karen this, and when we were in New York.

457
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: New York is don't write in Okay. I know that

458
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 1: it's just I don't know, I just haven't been to

459
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 1: the part of town or whatever. But on door Dash

460
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: she wanted to order like some sushi and I was like, yeah,

461
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: I've had the sushi here before and you really can't

462
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: trust it off of door dash reviews. And she was

463
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Speaker 1: just like, you know, it's Karen. She's gonna do what

464
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: she wants to do. Whatever I said anyway, And so

465
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: it got there and it was muchy, and she didn't

466
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: like it, and it got there quick too.

467
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: I was like, the fuck is this? I know you

468
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 2: can't make sushi this quick, which was raised all types

469
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 2: of red flags, like the fuck.

470
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: Is this right? So she had to learn from her

471
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: own experience, even though I had, you know, my experience,

472
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 1: and I of course let her order what she wanted

473
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: to order, and then I ordered some different shit because

474
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 1: I was like, I know it's gonna be whack when

475
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: it get and it was whack when it got there.

476
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 2: It was whack. They pulled They pulled that ship off

477
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 2: a shelf that's been sitting there three days. I'm like,

478
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 2: the fuck is this? That ship was soft and lushy,

479
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 2: it was like everything they described. They took it. They

480
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: putting it up together and put some rice wrap around it.

481
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: Fuck them.

482
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: It was. It was whack and and not good, and

483
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: she didn't finish it, and it was expensive and all

484
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 1: this stuff. But it's fine. My point being, you're absolutely right,

485
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: you can't trust those reviews and and and and I

486
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: think it's yeah, it's yell, it's door that, it's everywhere.

487
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: You can't truly trust the reviews one hundred percent of

488
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: the time, She says, I usually go by to places

489
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: by word of mouth or if I want to try

490
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: it myself, because me and you look interesting. I don't

491
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,959
Speaker 1: even pay attention to the bad reviews because people are

492
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: so petty and will give place of bad reviews for

493
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: the pettiest reason. Yeah, that's true, Will, Yeah, I've seen them.

494
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: Well, I'm reading some of the I was like I read,

495
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 2: I get through. It's like, well, this is kind of

496
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: your fault, Like this ship was beyond no control. Like

497
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: I don't get ah. It's even weird. They do that

498
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 2: ship where they'll praise it and then be like, I'll

499
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 2: give it to it the half stars. It was like, well,

500
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: read this, you like the shit? Why did they get

501
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: to it that? Like like you know, like it doesn't

502
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 2: connect to my brain sometimes, like this doesn't make sense.

503
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll be like I wanted my egg rolled raw

504
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: and they cout one star or whatever. Just like those

505
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: are not reasonable expectations. But anyway, I don't even pay

506
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: attention to the bad views that I I'm not sure

507
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: reviews hold the same value they used to. Well that's true,

508
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: and maybe they never did.

509
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: Who knows, right, Yeah, that's true too. I've seen uh.

510
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: I think it was years ago, a dude. I think

511
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 2: it was like it was a YouTube page and they

512
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 2: do like the reviews, and they was telling how you

513
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: can tell a really really good like Korean and like

514
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: Japanese place like authentic, and they was like, don't be

515
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 2: going to the ones with the top stars. I think

516
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 2: they said, go to the ones that have like three

517
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 2: and a half stars, and it was like the food

518
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: is flames and they like the reason why, they said,

519
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: because white people go through these places and they'll give

520
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 2: it bad ratings because they're not used to the food

521
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 2: and they're not accustomed to the food, so that just

522
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: you know, trash it when you're reality that's actually really

523
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: really good food.

524
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I thought.

525
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 2: About that, if that makes sense. And on top of that,

526
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: a lot of times these places to get places five stars.

527
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 2: This is that me and Roger. You go and you

528
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: get the food and you be like Oh this is

529
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: white people good the shit be playing it, don't be

530
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: season it like it is a difference between what white

531
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 2: people rave about and what like other people rave about.

532
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and honestly, like, I'll eat it a soul food

533
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: place that got bad reviews many a time, because I

534
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: really be excited. I mean, I'd be excited if I

535
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: read a review of a soul food place and it's

536
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: like terrible customer service, food took too long, server had

537
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: an attitude. I'll be like, fuck, I know that food good,

538
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: because how the fuck they in business? You can't have

539
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: shitty food and be in business with shitty customer service.

540
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: Like it don't add up, especially black business. Forever. I'm like,

541
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: oh this this bullet holes in the window. Let's fucking go,

542
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: you know. Uh. The comments on YouTube, my mom says,

543
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: like the guest the race segment was fire. Phil says

544
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: Little Shoppa Hars was one of my favorite movies as

545
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: a kid. Me too Tipsy with Fee says hello off subject.

546
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: Y'all's Walking Dead reviews are so damn amazing. Did you

547
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: guys finish review in season eleven? Your reviews keep me

548
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: laughing as I begudgingly watched the last season. The reviews

549
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: have enhanced my viewing experience by ten fold. Think I'm

550
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: watching these last episodes so I can listen your reviews.

551
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: We haven't watched them yet. We still haven't been spoiled

552
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: of them either. We do plan on doing it at

553
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: some point. It's just i've honestly, I've just been very

554
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: busy and it's a little bit of work to do

555
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: them because I don't just watch them. I have to

556
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: keep all my notes and everything, and I just haven't

557
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: been in a mental space of wanting to do it

558
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: at the moment. But I do plan to do it,

559
00:27:52,680 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: all right, Let's get to the episode on Spotify, which

560
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: I apparently just realized our name differently than the episode

561
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: on our website.

562
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: How's that.

563
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: Well, the episode of Spotify is chat gpt apology. The

564
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: episode on our website is chat GPT wrote this, which

565
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: I can fix right now by editing. Let's go with

566
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: the Spotify title. Let's go with chat gpt apology. But yeah,

567
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: so on Spotify we got the Oh wait, I'm sorry

568
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: I didn't say what the pole results were on our website. Yeah,

569
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: so the poll for this episode is was it wrong?

570
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: Was it wrong to ask the woman to pick up

571
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: the popcorn on the airplane flight because I legitimately do

572
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: not know the answer to this. This is a legit

573
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: I've just I realized as we were talking about it,

574
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: and I know people are up in arms one way

575
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: or the other. It's a device thing. On social media,

576
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: I saw something today about Southwest haide of flight want

577
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: to spill rice all over the fucking hour of the plane,

578
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: and the Southwest attendant was like, who did this? And

579
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: went individually asking people if they did it. No one

580
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: would confess to it, and the plane did not take

581
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: off for an hour because someone wouldn't just admit it

582
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: was them. What yes? And once again I get how

583
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: people would be annoyed by this, but also, nigga, I'm

584
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: not your maid, Like, I don't know that flight attendants

585
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: are supposed to be janitors. That's not something I've ever heard.

586
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: And if I'm a flight attendant, I can see why

587
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be the fucking janitor. You know. Anyway,

588
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: was it wrong to ask? Yes? Forty two percent say

589
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: it was wrong to ask, which means fifty eight percent

590
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: of people think it was not wrong to ask that

591
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: person to clean that shit up. And the exact same

592
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: percentage on Spotify basically forty and sixty, which is forty

593
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: percent yes, sixty percent No. So it sounds like people think,

594
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's not out of line to say, yo,

595
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: you clean that shit up? You on the plane, fucking

596
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: shit up? You got popcorn everywhere? What are you doing?

597
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: You know? I mean I would have been picking it

598
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: up before they even asked, because out of that's.

599
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: The part to me that is weird is and I think,

600
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's projection of all kinds in the situation

601
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: since we don't have it on tape, we weren't there,

602
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: But I definitely feel that level of like, oh, that's entitlement.

603
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: When your kid is fucking shit up on the plane,

604
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: you don't even pretend to want to pick it up.

605
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: What the fuck? The world is not your kitchen. You

606
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: don't get to just you can have a nasty ass kitchen,

607
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: but that don't mean the rest of us got to

608
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: live in it.

609
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: Right, And that's that's why the thing that sparked it off.

610
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: But they was like, look, we tied a dealing with

611
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: your kids putting fucking cheerios in the hot chairs. Now

612
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: we get rid of all these fucking hot chairs that

613
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: take up so much goddamn space and shit like that.

614
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: So for their perspective, I understand because they was like nigga,

615
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: I get paid two dollars thirteen cent an hour, and

616
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: I remember going in and having to clean them nasty,

617
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: yucky ass hot chairs because people just let that you

618
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: just mush everything in them.

619
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: Uh, just slap a rainbow on it. The marketing department

620
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: that was a Q and a jaed Domo says, yeah,

621
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: A cleaning crew comes after you land. They have even

622
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: come on the plane and begin cleaning the front seats

623
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: as the back of the plane deboards. Okay, I didn't

624
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: know that. Typ Flosan says, upgrades, people upgrades. Raphael says,

625
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: maybe that's what I was missing back in the NFT days.

626
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: I should have slapped some rainbows on it and got

627
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: white liberals money. We will never know that. I'm delivered.

628
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: I embraced chat GPT to sell naked POGs on rainbow.

629
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: I don't even know what this means. I think that

630
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: was left. I think that was Dorena says, my mom

631
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: was a flight attendant. They're there to make sure you

632
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: get off the plane safely in case of emergency. They

633
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: ain't there to clean up after you pick that shit

634
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: up yourself. Okay, that's what I'm to be honest. Without knowing,

635
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: I had always assumed me too that like if I

636
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: made a mess on the plane, it's not their responsibility anyway,

637
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: Coach Malik says, I mean unless I can see, like

638
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: maybe if you had like an emergency mess, like if

639
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: someone threw up or something like that, get you a

640
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: bag or something. But yeah, I don't know, man, I

641
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: don't think they jandered. I don't think they dealing all that.

642
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: The coach says. We travel with three young kids and

643
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: it gets messing. Do our best clean up after them,

644
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: even though the staff will us just say it's okay. Plus,

645
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: these kids need to learn to clean up after themselves. Yeah.

646
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: I think that's the other thing too, is like the

647
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: do your best to clean up after them, telling them

648
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: to clean up themselves. I think a lot of times

649
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: when people see that happening, they're less hard on you.

650
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, oh, don't worry about it out, we'll

651
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: get it later. It's okay because.

652
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: At least you put it, you chipped in, or you

653
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: did something, and they were like, okay, this is less

654
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: shit for me to clean up, Like, I'm cool with that,

655
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: but you just basically turning over a bag of rice

656
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: on a fucking plane scattering everywhere, and be like, fuck it,

657
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: that's a problem.

658
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had little Brairiy's was the episode with Mike

659
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: Caplan as a guest. Appia says, I also don't believe

660
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: in the alpha male stuff that just make me an

661
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: alpha male? I guess not. Is this something like an

662
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: alpha female actually? Technically and go ahead.

663
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: Care Oh yes, I've heard people talk about that online.

664
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, technically, And a lot of the

665
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: stuff that people claimed alpha males, like lions and wolves

666
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: and shit, a lot of times it be the women

667
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: that's the actual leaders of those packs and stuff. So

668
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: it's people just be literally fucking talking all this gender

669
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: old shit, all this patriarchal shit, all this fucking relationship

670
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: broad sweeping advice. Motherfucker's really just be fucking saying anything

671
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: and people eat it up because they need to hear something,

672
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: and it's mostly an exercise and confirmation bias. Whatever you

673
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: already kind of believe, like that is what you're willing

674
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: to entertain or or what you can be led to

675
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: believe that everybody else believe is what you're willing to entertain.

676
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, a lot of this shit don't actually make sense,

677
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: and none of these niggas are like scientists. They just

678
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: read a book. In the animal world, it is for sure.

679
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: The naked mole rats have them. For example, the alpha

680
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: female naked mole rat stretches the other females so much

681
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: that they become infertile. How mean, but also may be

682
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: helpful in the US today with reproductive rights for women

683
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: in danger. Brooklyn Shoeba says, this episode was so deliciously

684
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: delightful and Mike Rod and Mike's wordplay made me laugh

685
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 1: multiple times. I hate that alpha male shit. By the way,

686
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: the alpha in nature is usually female. This idea on

687
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: the alpha male came from a flawed study about the

688
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: hierarchy and wolf packs. There's no alpha male or female

689
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: in human hierarchies because the human has a different status

690
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: in the group depending on the situation, for example, reporting

691
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: to a boss at work or yielding to the police.

692
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: Alphas in nature, if you must call them that, are diplomats.

693
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 1: They're not loud, they don't look for fights or conflict.

694
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: They collaborate with the other animals. I don't understand black

695
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: men in particular and their desire to have women or

696
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: other men be submissive to them, whatever submissive means. I

697
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: could go on, but you have talked about this before

698
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: and I don't want to bring down the mood too much.

699
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: Thanks for a great episode, Mike. I also have many

700
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: books I haven't read yet. I'm stupidly hopeful that I

701
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: will and for light reading later. Is a link about

702
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: Discovery magazine Science of Alpha Males and Animal Species Eve.

703
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: He says, it's always good with Mike Is on the show.

704
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: He's very engaging. I think Mark eas Houston is just

705
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: one of those types of men who can't handle a

706
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: mature woman because they want to be able to talk

707
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: to and do whatever the hell they want, and a

708
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 1: younger woman is most likely to put up with his bullshit.

709
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: What that a older woman won't, right, It feels very

710
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: predatory when significantly older men seek out barely legal women

711
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: as their partners, if I'm not mistaken. He's been problematic

712
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: for a while, including the allegations against him a less

713
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: than one of his former groupmates. Oh, I had not

714
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: heard that the news about Jonathan Majors is pretty disappointing

715
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: because he was on the cusp of being huge and

716
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: he's talented. But there's no way your PR firm would

717
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: drop you if your things behind the scenes weren't really bad. Plus,

718
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: more victims are stepping forward, which is never a good sign.

719
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: I actually think Marvel recasting came the Conqueror's role would

720
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: actually be quite easy without much explanation. Considering how the

721
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: multiverse works, not all kings have to look alike or

722
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: even be the same gender. No, yeah, yeah, especially after

723
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: Loki and stuff. Here's the thing for me, though, his

724
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: PR people dropping him to me is just like damning

725
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: as fuck and his management team. But then his lawyer

726
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: is like, we have video of the woman that accused

727
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: him of beating her out and about later that night,

728
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: with no physical signs of like bruising, a harm or anything.

729
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: And once again, I don't know they anyone seen the video.

730
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: They just say they have it, and I think just

731
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: context clues at this point, if your career is on

732
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: the line like this where you losing everything, I don't

733
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: know how, and you claim us some video that exonerates you,

734
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how. We haven't seen that video. If

735
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: that's the real truth, and maybe a reason will come

736
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 1: out later that makes sense. That's the thing about reserve

737
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: and judgment. I can always change it. I can always.

738
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: It just looks real bad right now. But maybe and

739
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: maybe that video exists in a way that we'll be like, oh, fuck,

740
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: she really attacked him and he just got out the

741
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: car and got away from her. What the fuck is

742
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: she talking about? You know, maybe one day we'll see

743
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 1: that if that is the truth, I don't know why

744
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: we haven't seen it already, That's all I'm saying, Because

745
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: that's crazy to lose your whole career and just be like, yeah,

746
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: I got the evidence that I'm completely innocent, but I

747
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: just don't want to you know, it'll be a to

748
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 1: do or whatever, Like what could it be to do

749
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: you losing everything? What could it fucking be? Anyway, I

750
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: guess we'll find out the answer that one day or not. Yeah,

751
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: I just I think the other thing too, that I've

752
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: noticed with the Jonathan Majors thing, once again, you know,

753
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: this is this is how my brain worked. This is

754
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: just what I noticed about people. It's the flipping of sides. Right.

755
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: There were a lot of black men who were not

756
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: fucking with this dude because of the image he was

757
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: portraying in his media run during for all these movies

758
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: he's doing, and he was doing and I'm not saying

759
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: every black man blah blah blah, y'all know what I mean.

760
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: There was a specific type of black man y'all know

761
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: the ones I'm talking about that was like, why is

762
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: Nigga wearing feathered boas, why he dressing like anime characters

763
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: while he hugging up on Michael B. Jordan and all

764
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: the fucking promos for this shit. I'm tired of this

765
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 1: ship y'all trying to de emasculate the black men, right,

766
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: And so I saw that people were fighting about it.

767
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: I did not participate in it because I find that

768
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: drivel to be beneath me. Uh at this point, if

769
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: you don't know where I was standing on those things,

770
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: you're the fucking idiot. And if you need me to

771
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: restand upon it for you to read have some more

772
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: content than that's something, then you're lacking the faith in

773
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: what you believe in. I don't obviously, I don't subscribe

774
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: to that. You know, black men shouldn't be touching the

775
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: smiling shit, that's stupid.

776
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: Like chat the ghetto and keep it pushing anyway.

777
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: Now, and then there were people that were loving him

778
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: for that. You know, these aren't even really quotes or

779
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: sayings or interviews for real, Like they weren't really uplifting

780
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: the things he was saying as much as they were

781
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: uplifting the image he was portraying, which is, look at

782
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: this black man touching. You know, he's wearing you know,

783
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: he's he's feelings, he's wearing a little bit of clothes

784
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: and he's super buff and you know it looks like

785
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: he got a blouse on but his but his pec

786
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: tooles is out here giving us cleavage. You know, like

787
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: there was that type of because it was.

788
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: It was when he was doing Lovecaf Country, a running

789
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: joke about his T shirts being too tight, too tight tease.

790
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it was like a lustful but funny thing.

791
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's almost always, uh it's obviously a double standard,

792
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: but it's cute when women are lusting over men doing

793
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: shit like we we've you know, it's it's to some level,

794
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: even if it's kind of cliche, it's a bit seen

795
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: as empowering, Like look at this, we're objectifying him and

796
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: he wants to be objectified, and it's this is what's up.

797
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: It's nothing creepy or bad about it at all. And

798
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: so it was like a feel good moment for one

799
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: side of the equation, and obviously these other niggas was mad.

800
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: Then the allegations come out, y'all. People couldn't flip sides

801
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: better enough.

802
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: Like on the opposite side.

803
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: It was so fast. It was like this motherfucker always

804
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: been trash. I never I knew something was wrong with

805
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: him the whole time, Like how you were just telling

806
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 1: me he was the hero that black masculinity needed. Y'all

807
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: were writing fucking think pieces and everything, and you other

808
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: niggas was called him all kinds of fucked up shit

809
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: and saying he was being used as a tool to

810
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: emasculate the black man. What does it say to you

811
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: that you're now supporting him with the idea that maybe

812
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: he put his hands on somebody, or he's being accused

813
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: of putting his hands on somebody. Now he's back into

814
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: the black masculinity camp. What does that say about the

815
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: way you view black masculinity that you're welcoming him back

816
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: with open arms, And what does it say about castigating

817
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: and throwing him out based off of allegation that we

818
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: don't really have anything other than you know, for now,

819
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: we don't have the physical like the actual evidence and

820
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: stuff like that. It says a lot to me on

821
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: both sides of just like this, mother, I don't think

822
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: it's equal, but it says a lot about both sides

823
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 1: of how shallow and performative a lot of the love

824
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: and hated this dude is, and because you're now performing

825
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: the opposite way, which to me is still not really

826
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: about him. It's about what he represents. So that's what

827
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: That's what that whole situation made me think about. But yeah,

828
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know how that. I

829
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: can't imagine what the out is for this motherfucker if

830
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: he did that shit. And then the last thing I'll

831
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: say too is if one more you motherfuckers Cherry picks

832
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: a couple of white dudes to be like, but what

833
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: about this fam it's white dudes, especially during the Me

834
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: Too movement height that did lose everything faster for less,

835
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: Like what the fuck are y'all talking about this whole?

836
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: Like if he was white, nigga, if he was white

837
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: and this shit happened.

838
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 2: He's done.

839
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: Period. It does a tape of the shit too. It's

840
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: just what it is, especially if you're not established, like

841
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: if you've maybe been in the game a long time,

842
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: there's people who will be so emotionally and and invested

843
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: monetarily in you that they'll be like, oh, fuck, well right,

844
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt, just don't say nothing, you know, like I

845
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: can see that. But were talking like these motherfuckers have

846
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: the rise and fall all the time, and honestly, we

847
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: don't even know what fall means for him because it's

848
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: really just starting. He could be back working in six

849
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: months to a year and we'll be like, oh yeah,

850
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, like people were people always bring on, like

851
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: Nate Parking. Nate Parker's working again. He'll never work on

852
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: the level he was, but neither will Kevin Spacey.

853
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 2: Right, you know, like it, but they don't stop working.

854
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: It is what it is with this shit. I just

855
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: think it's very weird to cherry pick because you can

856
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: look at a person like Armie Hammer, who all his

857
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: shit is like mostly verbal allegations in him talking creepy

858
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: to people I will eat you, and shit, we go,

859
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: oh he's a cannibal. He didn't actually eat anybody. Guys.

860
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: He I don't know if it's like some fantasy sex

861
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: shit or whatever, but that's what he said. But he

862
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: didn't do it, and he persona not gronded in Hollywood, right,

863
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: This motherfucker potentially has video of him putting his hands

864
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: on this some woman. I don't know what to tell y'all.

865
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: Dog isn't to me, that's not uh, he not getting

866
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: immit telled or snow bunny or whatever y'all want to

867
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 1: call it. This to me is a case of probably

868
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: would have went that way for an up and coming

869
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: white actor who was who did some shit like this

870
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: in the height of you know, at the peak of

871
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: them starting to come up as somebody that's my guess.

872
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: But whatever, all right, the Poe Oh wait, shit, I

873
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: accidentally closed the YouTube tab. Yeah, get you on a

874
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: second back up? Uh yeah, there we go. All right,

875
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: So let's look at the YouTube comments for Little Prairi's

876
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: h We got oh like four comments. Carlton says, always

877
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: a great episode with Mike. I love when y'all love

878
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: Mike as much as I love Mike.

879
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 2: Yes, Mike is always fun.

880
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, because I know Mike is a he

881
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: has a different style, and so you got the longer

882
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: form comments, you got the back and forth, the jokes.

883
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of uh, you know, a

884
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: lot of him asking for permission to make you laugh

885
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: and stuff. I find all that stuff to be adorable

886
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: and fun and I like to listen to his you know,

887
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: somewhat philosophy, somewhat comedy, somewhat commentary on stuff. So I'm

888
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: glad that for the people that it's like, oh man,

889
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: I love Mike. I love that y'all love him. And

890
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: for those that don't like them more skip the episodes.

891
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: I hear y'all too, but thanks for not writing then

892
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: I don't need to hear it.

893
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: Uh.

894
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: Timmany says love Rise because we used to and the

895
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: reason I bring it up, we used to get people

896
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: that be like a man, It's like he wouldn't let

897
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: y'all get a word. And I'm like, that's the thing.

898
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: It's fine. Yes, we're okay with it. So hopefully either

899
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: you'll be okay with it or you'll be okay with

900
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: us being okay with her. Yes. Tiffany says, love Rod's

901
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: T shirt. I used to be cool lol so funny,

902
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: and Karen it gives me so much joye to see

903
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: how much you love that blanket. And good luck on

904
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: the move, Mike.

905
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 2: I do love my blankets. I got a bunch of them.

906
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: I love them, I always.

907
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 1: She's talking about that specific blanket. Tiffany may have bought

908
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: that for you.

909
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: I think, Okay, I do this hound of this thing

910
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: feel like cotton.

911
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: My mom says, what a delightful nuance conversation. Mike is

912
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: the best new best friend in my head with all

913
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: his analogies. Awesome show and a third food self absurd

914
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: spoon for says Rod and Mike's friendship is absolutely adorable.

915
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: Every time he's on, I spend most of the episode smiling,

916
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: Oh thank you. And then the poll. All right, the

917
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: poll was do you have unread books in your place

918
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: of living? Eighty eight percent yes, twelve percent no.

919
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 2: Yes.

920
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: It makes you wonder if they just don't have any books.

921
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: That's true. I am a book collector, and yeah, I

922
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: just like them. I don't read them all, but I

923
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: like them.

924
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: And I prefer to get rid of books.

925
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: I'm not as bad as I used to be now,

926
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 2: but yes, I think.

927
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: What I do and what I or what I think

928
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start doing. Is just sometimes I just take

929
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: something to good Will and Karen never notices because she's

930
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: not reading them and don't care. It's just in her

931
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: mind she thinks they need to be in here. Like

932
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: we get these these Netflix things for movie screenner season,

933
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: and Netflix has decided that for all the jobs that

934
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: they cut, they gonna spend money on giving us like

935
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: these boxes for movies. It's on fucking Netflix. Like we're

936
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: not even going to the theater to see these movies.

937
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: Why are you giving me like a Netflix original movie?

938
00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: And then like, here's the storyboard, here's here's here's some

939
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: of the uh, here's a candle, here's a sweater, here's this.

940
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: And I'm like, this ship is just sitting in my

941
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: house and I'll be and Nelson two one for me,

942
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: one for caring. And I normally try to give one

943
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: to Justin or something, but you know, to me, I'm like,

944
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: I opened the box. If there was cann in there,

945
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: I keep that, but if anything else can fucking go

946
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna use it. And Cannill be like, oh,

947
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna throw that at him, like you're never gonna

948
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 1: look at this again. You I've never seen you pick

949
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: anything up and look at it again. It's just getting

950
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: dusted in the corner of our apartment. What is this?

951
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: So maybe y'all like that, and I'm that.

952
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: Person, y'all. I know somebody else out there like me.

953
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: On Spotify, ninety five percent of people have unread books.

954
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: Five percent no, And Spotify makes sense. You have my

955
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: money to buy more books. Don't worry be No mad

956
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: was the Q and A. Samdy says, Oh, this is

957
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: why Tia Tamara kept telling him to go home. Guest

958
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: Marquis took her ole to heart. Aaron says, I'm definitely

959
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: not mad about this episode. Amazing episode with Mike, so

960
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: much fun. I loved every minute of it and don't

961
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: wait to check out his show in La in June.

962
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: Oh and I can't wait. Yes, Yes, go tell him.

963
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 2: We sent you. Yes. If y'all go to one of

964
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: Mike's shows, tell him tell him you heard him on

965
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 2: the show.

966
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: James says, I always love having Mike Kaplan on the show.

967
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: And I can feel the pain and anger coming from

968
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: ride on the connection issue from the podcast The Connection.

969
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, remember you kept going out?

970
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Yeah, Oh so stressful. Love Mike's goods

971
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: own relationships being a trustfall trust without falling heart emoji.

972
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: I love it all right, Let's go to the last

973
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: episode of the week. It is twenty six ninety eight

974
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: Grievance Aggregators, and we got the most comments I think

975
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: five on this one. Oh Appa says, I drive a

976
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: lot for work and so for many years, and I

977
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: don't have road rage. This is something I'm pretty proud about.

978
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: I just don't see the point the other person doesn't

979
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: even know I'm mad. Someone who yells in their car

980
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: only yells at themselves and their passengers. If I yell

981
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: at someone, I want them to hear it. Yeah. I

982
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: don't have road rage either. Ever. Honestly, maybe something brow me.

983
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: Even when people do some foul shit, I've never like

984
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: like yelled at them and blew my horn and started whatever.

985
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: It's just fucking pointless.

986
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Rudgie kind of tapped me out of man.

987
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: I was fussing about something one day I was driving

988
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: and he was like, baby, they can't hear you. And

989
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 2: I don't know why. It was like all of a

990
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 2: sudden my brain was like, you're right, and I calmed down.

991
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: Ever since, Uh, Gina said. Gina Gates says, far As

992
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: Whitaker's character would have been one hundred percent correct about

993
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: the baby intruder. I wonder what he's gonna.

994
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 2: Do to Drm.

995
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: He just puts it on us. He's not potty ron

996
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: and Raphael says, beef is so oh good. I haven't

997
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: finished it yet. I was waiting on the usual suspects

998
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: plus allergies when I saw David Choe news and became

999
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: confused by the boycott campaign. Then I thought about it

1000
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: until myself, after seeing some prison abolition folks going off

1001
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: for this boycott, it became fascinating to just watch the

1002
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: language around the movement, starting with calling out David Choe

1003
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: to slowly turning in calling out Ali Wong, holding her

1004
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: responsible for every casting decision ever made. So I came

1005
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: to the simple conclusion of filing under do something Joe

1006
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: Biden and returned back to watching the show. Yeah, and

1007
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: they released a statement collectively the creator, Ali Wong and

1008
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: I always forget Glenn from the Walking Dad's real name

1009
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: because Stephen Young and so they put out a statement

1010
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: and I actually do have a statement. I shared it

1011
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: on my social media, and you know, looking at some

1012
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: of the.

1013
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: Reaction to it, and you can tell a lot of

1014
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: times to wait for it, be fushy, but like, oh,

1015
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: y'all don't know how these decisions I made, and some

1016
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: of these decisions I made outside of like you've tried

1017
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: to hold somebody accountable for shit that they didn't really

1018
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 2: even have nothing to do it.

1019
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: Well, it's not just that to me. I'm like, this

1020
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: reveals your hand because your response to their response to

1021
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: me tells me what I was about the whole time. Like,

1022
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: this has never been about justice, accountability, any of that shit.

1023
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: It's been a it's a punishment campaign because this shit

1024
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: was said in twenty fourteen. It's like, it's not even

1025
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: reasonable to expect that his friends or whoever the fuck

1026
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: who have actually seen whatever has happened in his life

1027
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: since twenty fourteen. It's not even reasonable to expect them

1028
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: to be mad as your asses on social media. It's

1029
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: not even that's so unrealistic. And also, you motherfuckers want

1030
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 1: actual rapists out of jail. You want actual murderers out

1031
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 1: of jail, You want actual criminals to be We want

1032
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: us to ban the box on applications so that if

1033
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: you're a criminal, you can apply for a job and

1034
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: they don't have to even look up your criminal record.

1035
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: That's what you want. You want us to destigmatize all

1036
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: the crimes and shit. It is weird to socially want

1037
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: the death feelity for people but think that physically you're

1038
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: that that is incongruent, you know, to think it is

1039
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 1: wrong of me to be like, yes, some motherfuckers gotta

1040
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: go to jail, but like like that, that's not virtue

1041
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: signally enough. But then when it comes into practice, when

1042
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: it's not this theory, motherfuckers really turned into the most

1043
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: hardcore conservative throw a motherfucker away as people and out me.

1044
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: It is a coarcial impost, and the fact that they

1045
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: don't see it that way is crazy to me. Is

1046
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: because this is the same impost behind our criminal punishment system.

1047
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: It's the same impost. And I'm not saying you can't

1048
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: have it. I'm just saying keep it real all the time,

1049
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: and need me a fuck alone. When I say, hey,

1050
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: this dude hit my grandma, I won't him in jail,

1051
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: leave me alone. I don't have to forgive him. I

1052
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: don't want to do no restorative justice. I don't want

1053
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: to educate him. I want them away from other people,

1054
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: even if it makes them a worse person, even if

1055
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: they don't get rehabilitated. I just don't need them around me.

1056
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 1: If that's the real impulse, that's what is really happening.

1057
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 1: But you know, it's like that episode of a podcast

1058
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: I listen to, I Forget the Net if it was

1059
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: as a client show or The Gray Area with Sean Ellen,

1060
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: but where they actually had a person that worked their

1061
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: own like Prison Abolition, and they talked about the incongruence

1062
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: of social media and how hypocritical people on social media

1063
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: can be. And they said it's because their domain is

1064
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: a online domain of thoughts, right, it's not about they're

1065
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: policing literal thoughts. They feel attacked by online words, so

1066
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: it's easy for them to say, oh, real criminal shit

1067
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: that happened in your community. Yeah, I don't really care

1068
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 1: about that. We can solve that with hope and love

1069
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: and feelings and thoughts and talks. But someone a celebrity

1070
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: saying or doing something they don't like, all of a sudden,

1071
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 1: they need that person to basically die, right, And it's like, oh,

1072
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: so what's real to you is this podcast?

1073
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 2: Dude?

1074
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: But if I say an actual murderer anyway, it is incongruent,

1075
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: It's my point. But beyond all that, this is the

1076
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: comment they put out. The story David Choe fabricated nine

1077
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: years ago is undeniably hurtful and extremely disturbing. We do

1078
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: not condone this story in any way, and we understand

1079
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: why this was so has been so upsetting and triggering,

1080
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: where David has apologized in the past from making up

1081
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: this horrific story, and we've seen him put into work

1082
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: to get the mental health support he needed over the

1083
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: next decade to better himself and learn from his mistakes.

1084
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: And like I said, the way I saw people respond

1085
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: to this let me know like, oh, it was never

1086
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: about when y'all were calling them out, which I wanted

1087
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 1: was more you wanted someone to join you in your

1088
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: campaign to like ostracize the dude. You didn't want a

1089
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: realistic response of We do know him more than y'all

1090
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: know him. We know his life isn't a two minute

1091
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 1: SoundBite from a podcast. He's addressed it and apologized and

1092
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: we actually don't think he did it. We believe him

1093
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: when he was going by I'm a liar. I make

1094
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: stories up sometimes, like we believe that shit, and I

1095
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: think it is aided by the fact that it's been

1096
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: nine years. There's not like some victims coming out or

1097
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: some shit. There's not another person like it. They have

1098
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 1: a lot on their side when it comes to like, yeah,

1099
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: we just think he fucked up. We don't think he

1100
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 1: actually did this shit. Now do people want to hear that? No,

1101
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: because they've been on the internet looking at a two

1102
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 1: minute clip went over again, re examining it and realizing

1103
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 1: that he's kind of a jerk. He's he's like a

1104
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: bro comedian, you know, the bro funny type of dudes

1105
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: that that the dudes that that that think dark Ship

1106
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: isn't just funny, but like I should share the dark

1107
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: shit that I find funny and isn't it Isn't it

1108
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: funny that I'm sharing how dark and fucked up this is.

1109
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: He seemed to be of that elk and without actual

1110
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: people who've been harmed by him. And I don't mean

1111
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 1: I was harmed because I saw a clip on Twitter.

1112
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean the people someone coming for and be like, no,

1113
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: this dude is a bad dude. He is assaulted people

1114
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: and shit. Without that, I'm not sure what you want

1115
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: to happen to him, he told a fucked up story

1116
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: that he apologized for nine years ago. He should never

1117
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: work again. Yeah, I don't get it.

1118
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 2: That shit don't make no sense and what's so and

1119
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: what's so crazy about it? As the people wrote this

1120
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: letter honestly, particularly for a lot of the solfs to

1121
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: just this warrior is online, they're doing the shit that

1122
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: y'all say, they look, they analyzed, they forgave, you know,

1123
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 2: like like the shit that y'all quote unquote claim that

1124
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: y'all won't.

1125
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's to me, I think you have

1126
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: to prove your case, like this motherfucker made a terrible,

1127
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: abusive ass joke. This is you know, like this, this

1128
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: is his comedy lane quote unquote. What it sounds like

1129
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: to me is people that don't like that, which obviously

1130
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: he has people that do like it because he wouldn't

1131
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: be popular agree, But people that don't like that are like,

1132
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: how the fuck is he working with people I do like?

1133
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: So it was really about getting the people you do

1134
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: like to like join you in castigating him. And I'm

1135
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: just like, life don't work that way. And you're clearly

1136
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: talking from like a complete fan side of the industry

1137
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: because on the other side, it's like, motherfucker, you can't

1138
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: control everybody you work with on the project. You also,

1139
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: and this is gonna happen for a lot of you

1140
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: in real life. You also know people sometimes better than

1141
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: their worst mistake or the most fucked up thing they did,

1142
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: and you can make a personal decision like, yeah, I

1143
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: don't feel uncomfortable working with him. I have talked to

1144
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: him about this. I've heard him talk about it. He

1145
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: has said, this is the worst fucking thing you ever

1146
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: said and did, and he regrets it or whatever. I

1147
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: can see how people would feel that way. You know

1148
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: that know him, So to me it don't sound so crazy.

1149
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: But what it does feel like it's ultimately people wanted

1150
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: to They wanted allyship in this campaign to destroy this man.

1151
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: And because Ali Wong the creator and Steven Jones said nah,

1152
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: now they got to be the bad guys. And that's

1153
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: what it always gonna be about, because everybody has to

1154
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: be the enemy at some point, right.

1155
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 2: And the thing is the people who do this, like

1156
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 2: you said, A is from a fan perspective, and B,

1157
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: you don't care anything about them fucking up their careers.

1158
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: You don't care anything about them fucking up their own money,

1159
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 2: because you know, all your ship is a thought exercise,

1160
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 2: so you don't have to live with the consequences of

1161
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: the repercussions about this when you yourself.

1162
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: My thing is careers. You know what it is, though,

1163
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: Paul Up, Stephen, you and Ali Waan wouldn't fuck up

1164
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: their careers if they threw this dude the bushes. They wouldn't.

1165
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: They'd be fine. Like what it is is people thinking

1166
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: they're holding these folks careers hostage, like I won't support

1167
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: you with you. Don't throw this dude in the trash.

1168
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: I want to control you. And you know I thought

1169
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: of this ship this morning. I'm glad this. I'm glad

1170
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: we kept talking about that. I thought of this ship

1171
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: this morning. I know a similar situation where everybody's on

1172
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: the other side of it. Oh you know, you know

1173
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: what you want to talk about. I know, I know,

1174
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: I know a similar situation I was thinking about because

1175
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm on the other side too. Cardi b when she

1176
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,919
Speaker 1: said she was fucking drugging men and robbing them, which

1177
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: is an actual fucking crime. None of these men have

1178
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: come forward, so we she could have been on Live

1179
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: making it up. She could have just been talking that shit.

1180
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: None of us started hating her. Let's boycott her, except

1181
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: people that already wanted her out to paint. People that

1182
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: didn't fuck with Cardi B to this day will bring

1183
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: up that shit like this vile piece of shit she

1184
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: robbed these people, And honestly, it is fucked up if

1185
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: she did it. If she did it, that is a

1186
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: fucked up thing to do. I ain't nobody came forward,

1187
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: whether it's a shame thing or whether it's a it

1188
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: she made it up thing. Ain't nobody ever came forward,

1189
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: So to me, ain't no real people to be on

1190
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: their behalf of Honestly, like whether she said it for

1191
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: cloud and because it was funny to her, it still

1192
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: was fucked up. And you can throw all the gender

1193
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: dynamics and all the fucking you know, patriarchal contacts on

1194
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: top of it, it's still fucked up. Because if you're

1195
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: saying sex work is work, if you're saying that there's

1196
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: no shame in it, that means you're gonna have customers.

1197
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: And if a fucking cuss and just because of illegal

1198
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: doesn't make those people bad people, a lot of us

1199
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: want to have sex with Cardi B. So if she

1200
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: was out here being like, yes, you can have sex

1201
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: with me, it's gonna be this much money, or yes

1202
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: I was stripped for you, it's gonna be this much money.

1203
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: So a lot of motherfuckers that aren't bad people that

1204
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: are like, absolutely, where do I give the money to?

1205
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: So for her to be fucking drugging those people and

1206
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: stealing their money is ethically fucked up and criminally fucked

1207
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: up and all that shit. We do not have that

1208
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: same energy for her because we're like, yeah, I mean,

1209
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: if that even happened, it's a long time ago and

1210
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: seems to be there's no people out here that are

1211
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: crying file so fuck it. That's exactly how we treated it.

1212
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: So I think you got when you flip the gender,

1213
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: when you flip the like who we like, who we don't,

1214
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: who we've been introduced to, who we've been a fan

1215
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: of longer, all of a sudden, it gets super fucking

1216
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: complicated now, right, all of a sudden, it's well, you

1217
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: know that's Cardi. You know if that even happened, Well,

1218
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: if this even happened, right, well you know those men

1219
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: wanted to have sex with her, So what they're bad people? Nigga,

1220
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: you want to have sex with her? Who are you

1221
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: talking about? What are you talking That's what that's literally

1222
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 1: what sex work is. So it's just interesting to see,

1223
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: like how, how how when we decide that we're never

1224
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,959
Speaker 1: letting the motherfucker work again, and when we don't, Because

1225
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: I look at everybody that says they the people that

1226
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: are still mad about that shit with Cardy, I look

1227
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: at them like they're crazy when they're still bringing it up.

1228
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, wasn't that seven eight years ago she talked

1229
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: about that? Didn't that happen even before? Like what do

1230
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: we what are you mad about? Exactly? She never sows

1231
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: a rap again. Well she's Cardi b God, she's gonna

1232
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: be around. No this nigga ain't no Cardi be not

1233
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: that famous. But it just feels like a very like

1234
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: I said, it feels like a stance that's not congruent

1235
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: one hundred and I literally remember people being on the

1236
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: other side of this shit. Just it's not Those are

1237
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: very similar situations of her telling the story, no actual

1238
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: victim coming forward, and us being like, yeah, it was

1239
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: kind of fucked up, but I'm staying or I forgive her,

1240
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,959
Speaker 1: or she just shouldn't have said that story. It didn't

1241
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: even happen. Now, I don't even know that she's ever

1242
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: like apologized or addressed or said that I actually didn't

1243
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: do that shit.

1244
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1245
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: So in some ways it could be considered worse because

1246
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: at least this motherfucker's like, I did not do that shit.

1247
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny to tell a story like

1248
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: I did that shit, and that was I having some

1249
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: stupid So anyway, back to the comments though, now the

1250
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: more important things I've seen it with my two naked

1251
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: eyes before, Tyler's be communicating across realms and we don't

1252
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: act now. Not even combining the Avengers with the Rock

1253
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: Justice League will save us. Joe Biden, all the world

1254
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: leaders need to take these Tyler's seriously. They coming for

1255
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: all of us, and it's gonna be worse than beef.

1256
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: There's nowhere to hide. It all started with the shortages

1257
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: of their formulas. We are doomed. That's true. That's a

1258
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: good point, Raphael bringing it the facts, Stella says, thanks

1259
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: for talking about the beef controversy. I was the person

1260
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: that responded to your tweet and said that it would

1261
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 1: be hard for me to watch it after hearing the

1262
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: podcast clip on my Twitter timeline. I never heard of

1263
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: this guy, David Choell before Beef, but listening to his

1264
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,959
Speaker 1: rape joke on his podcast turned my stomach. I still

1265
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: want to watch it because I love Stephen Young. It

1266
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,919
Speaker 1: would just be a little later. I kind of hate

1267
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: that my enjoyment. God damn it before I even watched it.

1268
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: I think that was the whole point of this campaign. Yes,

1269
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: I think like and this has worked on me, by

1270
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: the way all the time, Like I tell y'all all

1271
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: the time when y'all are because I think what I

1272
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: can't reconcile is the fervor of people who watch the

1273
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: shit but actively talk shit about the top the thing.

1274
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: I just those two things don't line up to me

1275
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 1: where it's like I'm like, but you just said it

1276
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: was terrible. And then like I remember a long time

1277
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: ago as a person that was like, I'm not watching

1278
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: West World because it does some stuff with the Native

1279
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: American archetypes and stereotypes and stuff, and it's very offensive

1280
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 1: and U and this was off the trailer, like the

1281
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: whole fucking thing hadn't even dropped that. And of course

1282
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: West World season one goes on to become like a phenomenon.

1283
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: Everyone's watching it, blah blah blah. Now this person that

1284
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,479
Speaker 1: told me this shit about the Native American characters indigenous people,

1285
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,439
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, So then like six seven

1286
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: weeks in two it this motherfucker's giving me like a

1287
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: blow by blow on a plot. I said, why are

1288
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: you talking to me about this show? I didn't watch it,

1289
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 1: like you not watching West World. I said, you told

1290
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: me nights. You said, no, I didn't say this. You

1291
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: fucking told me it was a piece of shit, racist bullshit.

1292
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 2: Not that.

1293
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: Oh no, man, you gotta watch it. Man, It's it's

1294
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: deeper than what I was saying. I was like, right,

1295
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: because you just be saying anything correct. Motherfuckers really just

1296
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: be sicking. I don't even know what to believe your

1297
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: morals and your point of view actually is, because I

1298
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: don't think you do. It's like a fucking goldfish with

1299
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: a small memory. From this second to the next, you

1300
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: can't even keep up with what the fuck you be

1301
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: saying because in the moment you'll just say shit. And

1302
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: I'll try to be my y'all know, I try my

1303
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: damn is to not be like that.

1304
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do too. And the thing is uh,

1305
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 2: And I know that being a human being sometimes things

1306
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 2: are just fickled and you fall on either side. But

1307
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 2: for me, there has been things where, uh, I'm very

1308
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 2: adamant about certain things, like sometimes too adamant. But Roger

1309
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 2: have to tell me a baby comes down. Like when

1310
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 2: the shit happ with Papa Jobs. I was like, well,

1311
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 2: fuck it, I'm not ein'ven no Papa Johns no more.

1312
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 2: And I said it and I meant that shit and

1313
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 2: you know, and I was Roger or the pop. I

1314
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 2: was like, no, I want a Papa Jobs. I said, like, like,

1315
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 2: I ain't one of them people with the sad keep

1316
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 2: that energy on certain things. I will keep that same energy.

1317
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm not waivering, I'm not moving,

1318
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 2: I'm not being and I said what I said. So

1319
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 2: I try to be very consistent, you know, with you know,

1320
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 2: these type of things when it comes, you know, to

1321
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 2: these things for me, because I don't have that fear

1322
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 2: of missing out either for me, I watch it. I

1323
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 2: don't and like you said, it's kind of do an

1324
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: extent has worked on me too when it comes to

1325
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 2: people and their opinions and them being all over the

1326
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 2: place about show what.

1327
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: I mean when I say it works on me, I

1328
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: mean there's times where I want to watch something and

1329
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 1: I get excited about it, but it becomes the controversy

1330
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: of the day, and I just I'm not attracted to

1331
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: the controversy and I'm not attracted to the online discussion

1332
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: because the online discussion becomes about how people aren't watching it,

1333
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 1: which is totally different than to me. And it becomes

1334
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: a place for us to group together and be like,

1335
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: we're not watching it because we're all good people. And

1336
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: yet what I feel like subconsciously is truly happening is

1337
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 1: that people don't have the time. There's too much stuff

1338
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 1: out and so what we do make the time for

1339
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: is being online because that's more about us and our

1340
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 1: own brands. And so now I can be online promote

1341
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 1: my own brand, and my brand is I'm the person

1342
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: that didn't watch this because I'm a better person than you,

1343
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: or I heard this was bad, So it's saving me

1344
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 1: time of actually watching and finding out for myself. But

1345
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 1: I still get to join the conversation as if I

1346
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 1: do understand, and a lot of times I'll either go

1347
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 1: watch that stuff because I want to know for myself

1348
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 1: or and I just won't talk about it. I won't

1349
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: like tweet about it or anything, or I wait till

1350
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 1: it's got down and if I remember, I'll come back

1351
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 1: to it and be like, oh, this was actually pretty good,

1352
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: and then I don't have the bad taste of everybody

1353
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: denegrating the shit. I can actually enjoy it because I

1354
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: am not and I've openly been like this and for years.

1355
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:47,799
Speaker 1: I'm not a boycott a person because they art because

1356
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 1: a person that is fucked up that made it person.

1357
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm just not and there's nothing. I don't give a

1358
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: fuck if you judge me. I'm never feeling like I'm

1359
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: supporting the people. I'm pretty fucking open about my point

1360
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 1: of view about things. Normally, when I don't watch something,

1361
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: it's just because I'm either not entertained by that, or

1362
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm not attracted to it, or I'm just never was

1363
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 1: a fan. It's never like a conscientious point of like, oh,

1364
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: so and so Maine this, I don't like them. It's

1365
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 1: never that if I think it's good, I'm willing to

1366
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: give them credit for Okay, you made a good thing,

1367
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: bad person, end of discussion. For me, You'll never trick

1368
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: me into believing that consumption is all there is to

1369
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: me as a human being, because I feel like that's

1370
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 1: the most hyper capitalist point of view of humanity ever.

1371
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: Is your dollar is your point of view on everything? Well, nigga,

1372
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: you're the real capitalist. You the hyper capitalist if you

1373
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:46,759
Speaker 1: believe that shit. Like to me, I'm like, yeah, someone

1374
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: could play the Harry Potter video game and not be

1375
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 1: with JK Rillins transphobic bullshit are I haven't played the game.

1376
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm not even interested in playing the game. I'm not

1377
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 1: saying that out of any level of self interest. I

1378
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: just truly believed that's how life works. Like there's only

1379
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 1: a handful of people that truly have monetized their hate

1380
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 1: in a way that is almost unavoidable to be like,

1381
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 1: damn you, if you listen to this R. Kelly song,

1382
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 1: it's no way he wasn't saying about what he was doing,

1383
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But yeah, so I don't

1384
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: really have the hang up of that type in the

1385
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 1: first place. But online is all about signaling that, right,

1386
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: because that's how we signal that we're good people. So

1387
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: it's just an uninteresting place to have a conversation for

1388
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 1: me because I going to have a conversation about season

1389
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 1: three and four of Atlanta. That's not about if you

1390
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: like Donald Glover or not. I don't give a fuck

1391
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: about that part, right, Donald Glover didn't write all those

1392
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: episodes like I did. I want to talk about the art.

1393
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 1: So I just mostly avoid online discussions. That's why we

1394
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: me and Bossy do the podcasts and stuff. It's just

1395
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 1: easier than trying to have a conversation with people that

1396
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: are obsessed with their own love and hatred of celebrity.

1397
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: That's all that. They're just versions of stands. To me,

1398
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: that is just weird. It's very weird. And if you

1399
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: didn't put these niggas on a pedestal for literally doing

1400
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: nothing sometimes, if you didn't put them on a pedestal,

1401
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 1: you wouldn't feel the emotional attachment to whether you need

1402
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: to bring them down or lift them up, or what

1403
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 1: does this say about you to consume their art. If

1404
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: you don't make that your personality, you'll be fine.

1405
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 2: You would be And I think two examples. One is Blackish.

1406
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 2: I remember when Blackish first came out, Even before it

1407
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 2: came out, I was willing the people that had a

1408
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 2: problem with the name. But I am reasonable enough when

1409
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 2: we're right to talk to about. I'm reason enough to

1410
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 2: realize that that was ludicris, you know, But a lot

1411
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 2: of people did that and they just never got over that,

1412
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 2: if quote unquote that makes sense. They never analyze a

1413
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 2: thought about it enough, you know, to actually be like, well,

1414
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 2: why do I feel like this? What is wrong with

1415
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,600
Speaker 2: the name? What does me haveving a problem with this

1416
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 2: said about me? And there was those internal dialogues that

1417
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 2: I will have with myself sometimes because sometimes some of

1418
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 2: these thoughts to people have other people having too, But

1419
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 2: they just go beyond step one and they might go

1420
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 2: two or three and runs, Okay, this is stupid or okay,

1421
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 2: this is what's triggering me or whatever the calls me

1422
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 2: to feel like this or whatever, and then they'll calm down.

1423
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 1: Here's the last thing too, though, also, and I think

1424
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 1: this is what I'm very wary of at this point,

1425
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 1: having seen it in action up close. A lot of

1426
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: y'all are useful idiots. By what I mean is there's

1427
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 1: somebody with a personal gripe somewhere playing you like they

1428
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:43,719
Speaker 1: are playing your anger. There. They are purposefully taking things,

1429
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 1: putting them in a context. They are shit. This is

1430
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 1: the type they're aggregating your grievance and you're letting them

1431
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 1: do it, Like, how have we not We've been on

1432
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: the internet long enough. We should stop and think, take

1433
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: a breath for a second, be like what is the

1434
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 1: fucking point of this?

1435
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 2: For real?

1436
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: Though? Like what is supposed to happen? Like we're supposed

1437
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 1: to to turn the reputation of this show where this

1438
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: dude is like the seventh the seventh lead to quote Unco,

1439
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 1: the seventh supporting actor. We're supposed to be like, Man,

1440
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: fuck the people who made this show because they didn't

1441
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 1: know or didn't care about something he said in twenty

1442
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:34,719
Speaker 1: fourteen on a podcast that I just discovered and only

1443
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 1: saw two minutes of that has been deleted and apologized for.

1444
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: You're never gonna stop and think about that for yourself

1445
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: and be like why do I need to destroy this?

1446
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 1: Who needs me to do this? And why is it

1447
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,600
Speaker 1: as simple as they just need the clicks and the

1448
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: likes and the retweets. Is it a grievance they've had

1449
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: with this person? Is it personal? But you're being used,

1450
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 1: as my point, or at least be open to the

1451
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 1: possibility of being used. The biggest issue with social media

1452
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 1: is that none of us think it. The things that

1453
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 1: we think are happen to other people can happen to us.

1454
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 1: And I've had I've been on the side of Oh shit,

1455
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 1: I woke up to I'm being used. I wouldn't even

1456
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: get down like this. Why am I getting down like this?

1457
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 2: Oh?

1458
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 1: Because I want to be in the group of the

1459
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 1: people around me, and I want to be popular online

1460
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,759
Speaker 1: or I want to be liked by these people or whatever.

1461
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 1: And so now I'm not even questioning the framing of shit,

1462
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 1: which is my natural inclination. Meaning I'm not being myself

1463
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 1: right now. Like I'm not saying I'm a contrarian, but

1464
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 1: I definitely be like, I'll take a second think if

1465
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: you don't mind. You know, I'm not mister impulsive jump

1466
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 1: on somebody, jump on some shit. I like to think

1467
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: about it, work myself up to the anger, you know

1468
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: what I mean?

1469
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 2: Right, I like my anger to be valid. And one

1470
01:15:55,520 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 2: more thing, And it's kind of a running joke what

1471
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 2: I know with Insecure. When Insecure first came out, Honestly,

1472
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: the biggest reason why I didn't watch Insecure probably like

1473
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 2: the first season, I was like, Oh, y'all, niggas just

1474
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 2: angry complain like honestly, and it literally just turned me out.

1475
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 2: I was like, the fuck, I'm gonna be joining there

1476
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 2: and watching some shit to see the War the Sexes

1477
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 2: every fucking week. Like honestly, if Roger literally hadn't to

1478
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 2: set me down one day I was doing some shit,

1479
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 2: he put it on, I watched it, I would have

1480
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 2: never watched the show cause I was like, y'all niggas

1481
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 2: just jump on here every time and fuss about the

1482
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 2: shit for a full fucking week. Nah, good nigga.

1483
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: Cause they like to argue, and then whatever is happening

1484
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: the other day just becomes fighter for the anger anyway,

1485
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 1: You're correct. There's no part of entertainment that hadn't been

1486
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: touched by someone that may have done something violent criminal

1487
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,719
Speaker 1: at some point. There are bad people that made great music, movies,

1488
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 1: and other art in their lifetime and have enjoyed it. Yeah,

1489
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 1: don't even me start on that shit. Like the same

1490
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 1: motherfuckers about to watch this documentary on Tupac who supposedly

1491
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: actually did hold a woman down shell sexy as saw it,

1492
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: and they do not keep that same energy for that

1493
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 1: dude period and they never will. And it's just it was,

1494
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: it was our time, and so he gets a pass forever,

1495
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, and it just is what it is. You

1496
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 1: can love Tupac and see him as a whole, flawed

1497
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 1: human being in a way that you'll never allow for

1498
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 1: some nigga you just heard of, which is fucking insane

1499
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: to me. You know less about this person than you

1500
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: know about Tupac, and you're already on some like that.

1501
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: That's all that is to them them two minutes. It's

1502
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,839
Speaker 1: a constant and you don't even see how you're being used,

1503
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 1: Like you don't.

1504
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 2: See that for real, like you didn't.

1505
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know.

1506
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 2: Man.

1507
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 1: You gotta question this ship, you gotta question all this shit.

1508
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 1: I'll admit that sometimes I can get I guess roped in,

1509
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to cruelty or violence against women

1510
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: and children. This is why I love your podcast you

1511
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:44,560
Speaker 1: and can't bring a different perspective.

1512
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like.

1513
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 1: I said, man, this is one of the ones where

1514
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 1: like it to me is so blatantly nakedly obvious. It's

1515
01:17:55,800 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 1: it's a manipulation of it's My personal belief is that

1516
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 1: there's narcissists online who want to see how many people

1517
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: they can manipulate with their framing of things. And I

1518
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 1: think a lot of people you call activists, a lot

1519
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 1: of people in all the ism spaces, you know, I

1520
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 1: think a lot of people are like that. And we

1521
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 1: see it when we don't like what the person's talking about.

1522
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: We can see it so clearly. Like if I brought

1523
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 1: up doctor Umar somebody, I'll be like, yeah, of course,

1524
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 1: if I said Tarita sheet m.

1525
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 2: That's what he do.

1526
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: But if I'm like, you know, ex feminist or something

1527
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: that this, you know, this insert feminist here, insert media

1528
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 1: person here that's always got like anger going, insert social

1529
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 1: media person that only shares articles that make people mad

1530
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 1: and video clips. If it's that person, you won't see

1531
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 1: it anymore. If it's left said this, you won't see

1532
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 1: it anymore because you're like, oh no, no, I agree

1533
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: with this person. I'm like, well, this person only puts

1534
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: out things that make you upset all day? What are

1535
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: they getting from that? You see what I'm saying?

1536
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 2: Like, what? Right?

1537
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 1: Like, why haven't you thought about that? Is it making

1538
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 1: your life better? What is it distracting you from? What

1539
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 1: are you running from in your life that you need

1540
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 1: to be on? You know? Uh not Captain America's feed

1541
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: all day seeing how how the next upsetting thing that

1542
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: he found for you to be mad about? What does

1543
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 1: it say about you? And why don't you want to

1544
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 1: have that conversation? I have that conversation with you. That's

1545
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: a real one. I talk to you about that ship

1546
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: before I talk to you about David Joe, because I'm like,

1547
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: now we're talking about some real shit, Like now we

1548
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 1: can get in mud. I've been there too, you know, right,

1549
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 1: we all have, but I don't. But like the next

1550
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 1: there will be a David Choe next week too, and

1551
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 1: you'll never ask why, you know what I mean. The

1552
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 1: new David Shoe would be Ali Wong and and Steve

1553
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: Young for a while, and you'll never ask why anyway. Uh,

1554
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: But you know, everybody gets there on their own time,

1555
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 1: and some people never get there. And maybe, you know,

1556
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 1: years from now, I'll be looking back at this and

1557
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: be like, oh no, I should be mad every day

1558
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 1: about a new person, and maybe I'll be wrong. You know,

1559
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 1: I'm open to that too, but I personally, I don't

1560
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: feel that way right now, and I used to feel

1561
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 1: the other way, and I don't think I'm ever going

1562
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: back me.

1563
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 2: Either, And like I said, we're basically telling you because

1564
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 2: I used to be like this and a lot of

1565
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 2: times we kind of talked about this before. You need

1566
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 2: to look around you and but like what kind of

1567
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 2: company is am I keeping? Well? You know all these

1568
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 2: people encouraging this behavior, and those are questions, like you say,

1569
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 2: they never ask themselves, am I getting a high? Is

1570
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 2: this addictive? Like like you said, what am I running for?

1571
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 2: What is this distracted me from? And because now side

1572
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 2: people like to be willful idiots, they that that critical

1573
01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 2: thinking area of the brain never kicks in because if

1574
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 2: it does, even required and to think, and for some

1575
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 2: people that go online, that's just strict followers, like the

1576
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 2: whole thing. I'm a follower, I'm a flying monkey. This

1577
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 2: is what I do. This is my jam.

1578
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 1: But it gives you company because that's the thing. At

1579
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 1: least over there, you're not alone, right because a lot

1580
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: of times for those of us that have decided like yeah,

1581
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch this thing, I am not gonna even

1582
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 1: get into this part about the controversy because I think

1583
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: y'all are kind of tripping about that. You find yourself

1584
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 1: being kind of alone with it, Like you can't really

1585
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 1: talk about it because you know, and I'm not saying

1586
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: this stellar the person who wrought then she didn't mean

1587
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 1: anything bad by but I just all I said was

1588
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 1: I love the show. And the first thing was and

1589
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 1: she hadn't even watched it, and her first thing was,

1590
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 1: what about this controversy, That's why I won't be watching it.

1591
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 1: And I'm like, right, this is why it's alone. I'm

1592
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: alone on my side. What she was inviting me to

1593
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: without knowing it, was inviting me to this other conversation

1594
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 1: where I wouldn't have been alone if I would have

1595
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 1: said we did what well, I fuck this show with

1596
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 1: fuck Ali Wong. Now I'm all kinds of people will

1597
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 1: have been my mentions like yeah, Rod exactly, But I

1598
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: don't want that kind of company. It's it's a negative,

1599
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 1: depressing dance company. Like I'm I enjoyed the thing, and

1600
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,799
Speaker 1: I don't assume everybody that made it is a necessarily

1601
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 1: good person. And of all the controversies, this is one

1602
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 1: of the least controversial controversies because you don't even have

1603
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 1: like a person that came out and said this happened

1604
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,600
Speaker 1: to him and a nigga that and he apologized and

1605
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 1: said he lied about it. So whether he did or not,

1606
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 1: those are the facts that we have to deal with. Yeah,

1607
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't need to create a new reality. I'll wait

1608
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 1: for somebody to come forward before I go, oh, yeah,

1609
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 1: I dude's piece of shit, even though he probably is

1610
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 1: a piece of shit, even for thinking that shit was funny, Like,

1611
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, he old enough to know that shit. Yeah,

1612
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 1: he old enough to know that shit not funny. And

1613
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm not a cringe humor dude, so in that type

1614
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: of way, so you know, it was never gonna be

1615
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 1: that for me. But in this show, he's an act.

1616
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 1: He's an actor playing a character. He's not it's not

1617
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 1: him doing a podcast, So to me, that is not

1618
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 1: related anyway. Eve, He says, I saw be before I

1619
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 1: heard about the controversy, and I loved it. So indicative

1620
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: of the world we live in today, people escalating things

1621
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 1: that they could have just walked away from. To the

1622
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 1: point in overturn that being said, I get why people

1623
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:18,759
Speaker 1: are angry at David Joe. The joke was tacking, tasteless.

1624
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 1: He really needs to offer an apology for not only

1625
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: that joke, but how he's been handling the situation about

1626
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 1: shutting down any discourse about it. What I don't understand

1627
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 1: is why people seem to be equally angry at Ali

1628
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 1: Young and Stephen Young.

1629
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 2: See.

1630
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 1: To me, that's the bridge that people aren't connecting. What

1631
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 1: would it look like because he did apologize for that joke,

1632
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 1: But what would it look like for him? What does

1633
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 1: it look like for him shutting down discourse about it?

1634
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Because if I fucked up, I

1635
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 1: actually am not eternally talking about this shit for the

1636
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 1: rest of my life. I'm gonna tell y'all that right now.

1637
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: If I offer a full throat of apology, it is

1638
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: not now become apology upon demand. Yeah, it feels like

1639
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: people think that's realistic, but they've never seen it because

1640
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 1: it's not realistic. There's no human being that just shows

1641
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 1: up every place where as they're moving on with their life.

1642
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: And you, yourself have made mistakes, not this mistake, but

1643
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,719
Speaker 1: some mistakes somewhere. You are not confronted by that mistake

1644
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: every single fucking day and have to apologize every time

1645
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 1: your name comes up, every time a new person introduced

1646
01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 1: to you. It's so unrealistic and it's so fucking carceral.

1647
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 1: It's not real. It's not true the way our lives

1648
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: and time operates as we move on the new things

1649
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 1: we're like, I said how I felt about that. I'm

1650
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 1: now working on something not even related to that shit.

1651
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is the person that wants to

1652
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 1: keep him stuck there, who keeps bringing it up? Why

1653
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 1: are we not questioning where that's coming from?

1654
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 2: Agreed? Agreed, And then they wonder why the person gets

1655
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 2: to the point where they go, fuck y'all and fuck this.

1656
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 2: I've apologized, I'm not apologizing no more. They want that

1657
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 2: you not apologizing no more. I said what I said.

1658
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 1: And he hasn't said that, But that's what they want, right,

1659
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,679
Speaker 1: because essentially he's played it what I imagine to be correctly,

1660
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 1: which is I said my apology. I'm never going to

1661
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 1: go back on my apology, and I'm also never going

1662
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 1: to bring this shit up again. I was clearly wrong.

1663
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 1: That's the end, the end, That's the fucking end of it.

1664
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 1: You can't keep apologizing forever, you know. This was the

1665
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 1: reason that people I understood, the people that were with

1666
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart for being like, if he apologized for those jokes,

1667
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 1: why would he do it again and again and again?

1668
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 1: When does it stop like they did have a point there,

1669
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: even if I thought, you know, it was Kevin Hart's uh,

1670
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart did what Karen said of the and I'm

1671
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 1: over it.

1672
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 2: I'm never apologizing us, like, because you press people to

1673
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 2: that point and then I point it's like after why

1674
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,839
Speaker 2: people gonna be like, hey, you get no more apologies

1675
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 2: out of me?

1676
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 1: And that I think low key that's what people want.

1677
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 1: They want to push you to that point of fucking

1678
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 1: up again in a different way, to be like I

1679
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: told you, I told you it's a piece of shit,

1680
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 1: and this dude basically went radio silence, which to me

1681
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 1: is the smartest thing a pr person could say and

1682
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 1: the smartest thing a person can do. It's hard, but

1683
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 1: because you want people to think you're a good person,

1684
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 1: you want people think he changed. But honestly, what statement

1685
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 1: would you have accepted? You will accept Ali Wong and

1686
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 1: Steven Yune's statement. You won't accept anything this motherfucker says,

1687
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 1: I guarantee it because you don't believe him, period, So

1688
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 1: why are we pretending what's up with this facade? The

1689
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 1: only thing you'll accept is him going I'm gonna kill

1690
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 1: myself the damn a bad person. I did everything y'all

1691
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 1: said I did, and it wasn't a joke and I

1692
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 1: really did mean and I did do those things, and

1693
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 1: that's the only thing you'll accept. So if you know

1694
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 1: that's the only thing you'll accept, why are you even

1695
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 1: pretending like there's some magical words? And the reason they

1696
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 1: moved on to Ali Wong and Stephen Yung is because

1697
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 1: the first thing is kind of some bullshit too, So

1698
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 1: it's about staying mad. So to me, you're saying, like,

1699
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 1: I see why people are mad at him, and I'm like,

1700
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,799
Speaker 1: do you though, because it did happen in twenty fourteen,

1701
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 1: So why are they really mad? They're mad and someone

1702
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: told them to be mad. Guess why they're gonna be

1703
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: mad at Ali and Steven because someone's telling them to

1704
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: be mad at them too. That's as simple as it's

1705
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 1: not complex. It's a reason they didn't really do shit,

1706
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 1: but now they're caught up in it. The fact they

1707
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 1: even have to release a statement is crazy to me

1708
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 1: because half of you motherfuckers work with somebody that if

1709
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:40,560
Speaker 1: someone came and told you like, so and so is

1710
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 1: a piece of shit, you wouldn't be like, well, I

1711
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 1: guess I need to release a statement like you'd be like, well,

1712
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 1: I work in the county. I'm not sure what that

1713
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:50,839
Speaker 1: person got to do with me, but that ain't my apartment.

1714
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 1: My job is not to I don't need to get

1715
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 1: on Twitter and tell y'all how much I don't like

1716
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 1: or like that person. It really is the fact that

1717
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 1: you demanded a statement got mad. It took them a week,

1718
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 1: which is completely fucking reasonable, especially when you're talking about

1719
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,879
Speaker 1: something that's not illegal or criminal and there's no evidence

1720
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 1: of You basically want them to say he's a rapist

1721
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 1: and he's off the shelf as opposed to he made

1722
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: a joke, apologize and we know him more than y'all,

1723
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 1: and honestly, we think he's done a lot of work

1724
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 1: to from those moments to not be like that.

1725
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and something you bought up is, like you say,

1726
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 2: the best thing to do is go radio silence.

1727
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 1: They hobnoestly shouldn't have put out a statement, to be honest,

1728
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean they did, and I get why they did,

1729
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 1: because they want to be good people, and it's sinking

1730
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:44,719
Speaker 1: their project. This Agent American, this AAPI project. Everybody claim

1731
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 1: they want it, but now it's arbitrarily sinking like they

1732
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 1: do everything they claim they want. But I get why

1733
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 1: they put out a statement. I'm sure they thought it

1734
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 1: was smart this one. I could have told them any

1735
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 1: statement you put out won't work. There's no statement you

1736
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: can put out other than I hate this guy. Now.

1737
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know this fuck y'all. You know. On my

1738
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 1: Facebook page, somebody was like, you know, it's interesting, are

1739
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 1: going with the angle of we heard about this and

1740
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 1: we believe him? And I said, you know, what's crazy.

1741
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 1: Even if they didn't, if I'm their pr person, I

1742
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,799
Speaker 1: don't have them put out a statement I just found out,

1743
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 1: because everyone who just found out is supposed to react

1744
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 1: irrationally and upset emotion and lash out at the dude

1745
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 1: as opposed to we being known about this. We think

1746
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 1: it was fucked up, but we also think he has

1747
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 1: a right as an artist and as a human to

1748
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 1: change and become better and not do that shit. No

1749
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 1: more like this. This is the real truth here, This

1750
01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 1: is the ugly truth of humanity. But it's not. It

1751
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 1: don't make you look great. You didn't get to dunk

1752
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 1: on them and get out the credit, you know.

1753
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's why they's, like I said, they continually

1754
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:56,719
Speaker 2: move the gold Post. And it's one of those things

1755
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 2: where it boils down to something I said, and I

1756
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 2: will always say this. People feel like once you become

1757
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 2: a status symbol, whatever the status symbol that they because

1758
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 2: it's arbitrary with the individual person, is determined, they can

1759
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 2: strip just pure humanity from you. They can just strip

1760
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 2: it away from you, and they can assume that everything

1761
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 2: you do is the worst. Nothing you do is out

1762
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 2: of kindness of your heart, nothing you do is you

1763
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 2: just being a human being. Everything you do has to

1764
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 2: be pushed to the extremes which justify these irrational and

1765
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 2: illogical behavior. It's like, because anybody in that right mabill go, hey,

1766
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:36,759
Speaker 2: this is crazy, y'all. But because they've created this online

1767
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 2: world where everything has to be amp, they have to

1768
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 2: justify their actions by things like this.

1769
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and someone brought up James Gunn with them tweets,

1770
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:48,680
Speaker 1: and you know what Disney did. They basically went back

1771
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 1: and was like, wait, it was just fucked up jokes.

1772
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 1: The people who are using this to target him have

1773
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:56,719
Speaker 1: a personal grid because they don't like that he's a liberal,

1774
01:30:57,439 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 1: the progressive white dude. And yeah, he made some just

1775
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 1: some some cringe ass jokes but that is the extent

1776
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:10,719
Speaker 1: of his thing. He also had fucking confronted the jokes,

1777
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 1: admitted that they were bad, said he was sorry for him.

1778
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 1: And the only thing is he didn't take him down,

1779
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 1: and he didn't take him down out of prosterity because

1780
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,879
Speaker 1: he was like, people need to see the eye changed,

1781
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 1: and you know we did the opposite. No, we going

1782
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:25,759
Speaker 1: back to two thousand and nine. You're stuck in forever.

1783
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 1: You should not even though you've shown through your work

1784
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 1: that you do not do this anymore. We are going

1785
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,719
Speaker 1: to try to cancel you now. And it is weird.

1786
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 1: Is a fucked up impulse. And like I said, that's

1787
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 1: the reason it moves on to the next person. And

1788
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 1: Disney basically went, man, we was wrong, you got your

1789
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,839
Speaker 1: job back. Are bad and that's and that's and honestly,

1790
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 1: everyone got the fuck over it because at the end

1791
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 1: of the day, it wasn't real what you were mad about.

1792
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 1: It doesn't come up. It ain't come up again until

1793
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 1: I just said it right now because I saw it

1794
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 1: in the chat. Anyway, She says, why they mad at

1795
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 1: Alian Steven. They didn't make that horrible joke. That guy's

1796
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 1: their friend, and I think they gave him grace by

1797
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 1: not saying thing at all. I've seen plenty of people

1798
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 1: defending indefensive on behalf of their friends and get dragged

1799
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 1: for it. I didn't see them defending that behavior. And

1800
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 1: when they finally made a statement, it wasn't good enough

1801
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:15,640
Speaker 1: for people. Your damn if you do, your damn if

1802
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 1: you don't. That's my whole fucking point in nutshell right there.

1803
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just as simpy damn as you do.

1804
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:23,599
Speaker 1: And that's the point, by the way, that's the point

1805
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,439
Speaker 1: of them doing that, that they're always right. Yeah, because

1806
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 1: somebody gonna get damned, Because somebody need to get damned

1807
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 1: for me to have this content. That's my personal Bevietion sir. Anyway,

1808
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 1: comments on YouTube, my mom says Trayvon Meghan, the Stallion

1809
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 1: number one fan that Azarro was calling him, uh, started

1810
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 1: go fund me and free Trayvon. I don't know about

1811
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 1: freeing them, but I definitely understand his motivation to want

1812
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 1: to be at the concert.

1813
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:49,879
Speaker 2: Ha ha.

1814
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 1: She also said put the zip ties on the baby's wrist, lol,

1815
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 1: you caring said that. My mom says, y'all took me

1816
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 1: out on the baby insurrectionist and then lastly, I mean

1817
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 1: then as Carter's as my son and I were in

1818
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 1: DC and said that the bars are big enough for

1819
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 1: a small person to fit through. I told him it

1820
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:09,799
Speaker 1: actually happened. He said, I told you, M a baby,

1821
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 1: but still a person. And Harmon said it's or a

1822
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:17,120
Speaker 1: Republicans call even an egg is a person, okay, And

1823
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 1: in Harmon's they're like, it's murder every time you have

1824
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 1: a period. Honestly, you're killing babies. N Harmon says, I

1825
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 1: enjoyed this episode. Thank you again. You guys have me

1826
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 1: looking for the episodes. I want to hear the Star

1827
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: Wars Mandalorian recap. Well, we aren't doing the Star Wars

1828
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 1: Mandalorian recap even though we watch it. And yeah, recaps

1829
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:39,640
Speaker 1: are worked for me.

1830
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 2: So it's so we pick and choose, like we don't

1831
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 2: do everything like it. We choose those types of shows.

1832
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all are turning my the same way. You get

1833
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 1: to be entertained by it, and that's the fun for you.

1834
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 1: Whenever y'all say, y'all want to recap, you're turning my

1835
01:33:56,000 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 1: fund into work. So I think, just in general this

1836
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 1: we don't do a TV recap show. In general, we

1837
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 1: just kind of do a couple of year for the

1838
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 1: things we find to be fun. The post, should the

1839
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 1: White House build a tylerproof fit? Thirty five percent say yes,

1840
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 1: sixty five percent say no.

1841
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 2: Yes.

1842
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 1: On Spotify, fifty four percent say yes, forty six percent

1843
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 1: say no.

1844
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got the money, they got something to protect.

1845
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, they know that the stable instability at the White

1846
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 1: House will affect their stocks. Come on, they can't have

1847
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 1: these babies out here attacking. Keep your tiller's out the

1848
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 1: White House was the comment. Kemmy says she just wanted

1849
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:38,759
Speaker 1: a snack and a nap, much like the president. Ernie

1850
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:42,679
Speaker 1: says Rody Roddick Rodick Carroll, making light of the baby

1851
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 1: insurrections problem. Meanwhile, google j R fifteen to see how

1852
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 1: deep the rabbit hole really goes. This message brought to

1853
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 1: you by the one million Tip in America's pack. Jed

1854
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: Donald says, I I love beef from on episode seven.

1855
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 1: I love the commentary on anger, but even on how

1856
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 1: trying to positive and not face any negative emotions can

1857
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 1: also be hurtful through George, Yeah, me and BOSSI have

1858
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 1: been talking about beef and snowfall and stuff. We may

1859
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 1: do this too much. At some point. I don't know

1860
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 1: if it'll be both shows or not. Maybe we'll do

1861
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:17,600
Speaker 1: a general like what we've been watching kind of thing. Yeah,

1862
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:21,799
Speaker 1: but I told her because I watched Beef like straight

1863
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 1: through and I loved it so much. Like it is

1864
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 1: honestly possibly my favorite piece of art this year so far.

1865
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 1: You know, I know it's April, but it's just like

1866
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 1: the way the it's like a honestly like a treatise

1867
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:47,560
Speaker 1: on anger, and to me, I think and the destructiveness

1868
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:52,599
Speaker 1: of it and the deflection of it, like what does

1869
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 1: it mean to what are you running from? When you're

1870
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 1: running towards something with anger? What is it that you're

1871
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:01,840
Speaker 1: actually running from? It's fight or flight? But what people

1872
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 1: don't realize it's not really fight or flight is flight

1873
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:08,639
Speaker 1: and fight in a lot of cases. And so I

1874
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 1: really think this was one of the best illustrations of it,

1875
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:16,679
Speaker 1: and it gives you something to think about and how

1876
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 1: a lot of anger really stems from loneliness and being alone.

1877
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:22,679
Speaker 1: And that's why a lot of times when you hear

1878
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 1: about people that used to be angry online a lot,

1879
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 1: including myself, and when you hear them change or become

1880
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 1: calmer or more reason and rational, or more thoughtful, or

1881
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 1: just introspective or more patient. What you almost always hear

1882
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 1: go along with that is how much they move their

1883
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 1: process of friendship and group dynamics offline. Almost everything time, Oh,

1884
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 1: I just talk to my person on the phone, I'll

1885
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 1: text them, or the group chat, or I do it

1886
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 1: on my podcast. Almost every way, they move away from

1887
01:36:57,240 --> 01:37:01,599
Speaker 1: the group dynamics of large online spaces into smaller either

1888
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:06,679
Speaker 1: smaller online spaces or offline spaces. Almost every fucking time.

1889
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 1: It's a person that knew me in real life kind

1890
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 1: of brought something to my attention, and I realized I

1891
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 1: was out of pocket and I was angry out the time,

1892
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:17,640
Speaker 1: and it wasn't really rational, it wasn't really me. And

1893
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Beef is a great illustration of

1894
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 1: the things and the problems you're running away from when

1895
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 1: you're running to something. I loved every time they would

1896
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 1: try to explain the main two characters, Ali and Steve.

1897
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 1: When they would try to explain to someone that wasn't

1898
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 1: involved in the Beef, it felt like how I used

1899
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 1: to feel trying to explain some shit to happen on

1900
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 1: Twitter to somebody that don't be online. Yes, me, too,

1901
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 1: me too, and they'd be looking like, why are you

1902
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 1: so mad about that?

1903
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 2: The m put what happened?

1904
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 1: Because you know what they wanted to talk about, how

1905
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 1: my life was? What was?

1906
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 2: What was?

1907
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 1: You know, because me, I'm just asking how my life was,

1908
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 1: and my life was. My life was a message. Boy,

1909
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 1: my life wasn't. It wasn't like, Oh, this is what's

1910
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:09,200
Speaker 1: happening in my job, this is what's happening in my health,

1911
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 1: this is what's happening with my relationships, this is what's happening.

1912
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 1: It was becoming this other thing that was a distraction

1913
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 1: from other stuff. So yeah, I think, yeah, I just

1914
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 1: there's so much I could say about the show. I

1915
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 1: loved it. I loved it. Katie says Karen was right

1916
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 1: about people lacking emotion intelligence. Literally a type of intelligence

1917
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 1: one'ting to measure. Has nothing to do with range of emotions. Felt.

1918
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 1: It's about examining their understanding.

1919
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:37,080
Speaker 2: Their use. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with the emotions, and

1920
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 2: it's as somebody who the older I got, the more

1921
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 2: I began to control my emotions because the way I

1922
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 2: was raised up and I love my family, but my

1923
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 2: family emotions were all over the place. They let their

1924
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 2: emotions dictate a lot of shit and a lot of

1925
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 2: the reasonable rational side. For a lot of my family members,

1926
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 2: even some of them to today, just never kicked in,

1927
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 2: and so I would do shit and people would be like, well,

1928
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 2: there's something wrong with you, You're crazy. Nah, I just

1929
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 2: nobody was there to show me how to balance my

1930
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:15,720
Speaker 2: emotions everything. The highs can't always be ten and the

1931
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 2: lows can't always be ten. There has to be a

1932
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:22,800
Speaker 2: middle ground, and as I went through life, I had

1933
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:25,680
Speaker 2: to learn how to balance that. And I joke out

1934
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 2: online I can tell some of them don't have this

1935
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 2: emotional balance because everything is ten one way, everything is

1936
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 2: ten the opposite way, and anything that's in the middle

1937
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 2: it is considered irrational and illogical. And that's when I

1938
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, y'all don't have this emotional balance. There's

1939
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 2: no one here telling you this shit is ridiculous, This

1940
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:49,559
Speaker 2: shit deserves a two, It don't deserve a ten, or

1941
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:52,720
Speaker 2: this shit You actually, if I analyze your real life,

1942
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 2: you actually don't give a fuck about this person, place,

1943
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 2: or thing. But somebody has told you to be mad

1944
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 2: and boycott or whatever it may, so you lash on

1945
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 2: to those things.

1946
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think asking why is this? It's just a

1947
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:10,360
Speaker 1: thing that puts you on the outside, but it's the

1948
01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 1: thing that you need. I think it's the first step

1949
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 1: out of a lot of this shit is just why.

1950
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:19,320
Speaker 1: Because it's not that people are always wrong either. There's

1951
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 1: been plenty of times where I'm like, I get it's

1952
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 1: not that I never understand people's emotions. I just ask why,

1953
01:40:25,960 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 1: because some of this shit, I'm like, if you ask why,

1954
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:30,600
Speaker 1: you'll start to see the patterns, and you start to

1955
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:33,559
Speaker 1: see the patterns, You'll be like, is this actually healthy

1956
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 1: for me? Is this actually what I want to do?

1957
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:37,759
Speaker 1: Is this what I want to be all the time?

1958
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 1: Is this is this productive? I think those are fine questions,

1959
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 1: and a lot of people I feel like that's the taboo.

1960
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 1: You start asking those questions like get this nigga out

1961
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:49,679
Speaker 1: of the hive.

1962
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:52,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they feel like it's a personal attack, right,

1963
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:54,760
Speaker 2: And you know when it's not. You're just trying to

1964
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 2: get to the root of the problem. But when you

1965
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:58,800
Speaker 2: have somebody that's not trying to solve the problem or

1966
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 2: don't think they have a problem, but then this there's

1967
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 2: no point of this conversation because this is not a

1968
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 2: two side of conversation because I remember I would have

1969
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:15,879
Speaker 2: like emotional, uh, emotional instability when we was in college.

1970
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:20,760
Speaker 2: My financial they was fucked up, and so Roger would

1971
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 2: tell me, he was like, caring, I need for you

1972
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 2: to go and you know, make sure your shit is straight,

1973
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 2: because then you know, if it's it was their fault.

1974
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 2: But it was like he was like, if you don't

1975
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 2: get this ship straight, and nobody's gonna give a fuck

1976
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 2: about whose father it is, They just gonna be like,

1977
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:35,080
Speaker 2: get your ass off out of camp, off of school.

1978
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 2: So every time I would go, I would come back

1979
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:40,760
Speaker 2: and ROGERI asked me about and I was literally being

1980
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 2: tears because, like I said, was that emotional roller coaster

1981
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:46,559
Speaker 2: of me and my anxiety not And because the house

1982
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:48,799
Speaker 2: raised my mama, she didn't really press a lot of things,

1983
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 2: so I didn't really know how to press and how

1984
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 2: to demand answers and how to which was the real problem.

1985
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 2: But instead of me facing those problems, Roger talked to me,

1986
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:00,280
Speaker 2: I would bus out in tears. And a lot of

1987
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 2: people use that emotion, that sadness, those tears as a

1988
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:08,160
Speaker 2: deflection to not solve whatever the problem is, to get

1989
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:11,240
Speaker 2: to the root cause of the problem, and you have

1990
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:13,640
Speaker 2: to have and I'll speak to me personally, you have

1991
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:16,720
Speaker 2: to have somebody and like I say, funk out of tears. Here,

1992
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 2: here's a napkin. Dry your tears up. Let's actually talk

1993
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:23,920
Speaker 2: about this when you're in this non emotional state. Who

1994
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:29,479
Speaker 2: what when while wearing how and him consistently doing that

1995
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 2: made me analyze. It made me realize that my sadness

1996
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 2: was not solving the problem. These tears was not fixing

1997
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:40,680
Speaker 2: the problem, Like it was not going to cause it

1998
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 2: to not exist anymore, and it was not going to

1999
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:46,720
Speaker 2: cause the consequences of the repercussions of me being inactive not

2000
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:50,599
Speaker 2: happened because I was quote unquote sad, Like, who gives

2001
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 2: a fuck about you being sad? Did you do the

2002
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:54,640
Speaker 2: work or not? Is your financial legstraight or not? Like

2003
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:56,559
Speaker 2: that that was the problem. That was the thing that matter.

2004
01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 1: You would have been sad and out of school, yeah,

2005
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 1: and so so giving in to that at that moment

2006
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:04,760
Speaker 1: might have even felt good. It might even felt like

2007
01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 1: emotionally like some sort of like either progress or affirmation.

2008
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, and it's obviously like, okay,

2009
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 1: be sad. You have a time to be sad. That's fine,

2010
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 1: and then there's you still have to get the thing

2011
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 1: done right, and then you have to go do it.

2012
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:25,640
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of times though that's the

2013
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 1: we're the Internet has turned into we're validating the sadness

2014
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:31,720
Speaker 1: more than we're talking about the thing that needs to

2015
01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:35,799
Speaker 1: be done. I think that's a great point you're making.

2016
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 2: And that's the action, because the thing is. And like

2017
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:41,479
Speaker 2: I said, I'm coming from when I say these things,

2018
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:44,280
Speaker 2: I'm coming from somebody. I'm not perfect, but I have

2019
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 2: done the work. So this is how I can tell

2020
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 2: these people and where they're at because I've been there

2021
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 2: at some period of time in my life. Because you

2022
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:55,559
Speaker 2: know what it took. It took somebody who had my

2023
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 2: best interest at heart, who wasn't taking that emotion and

2024
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,639
Speaker 2: hypen that emotion up and justifying that.

2025
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 1: Also you know what else was happening. I'm not getting

2026
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:08,360
Speaker 1: off from your emotion, correct, I'm not purposely trying to

2027
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:10,799
Speaker 1: put you in a state where it makes me feel

2028
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:15,760
Speaker 1: needed or it makes me feel like we're in community

2029
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 1: by stoking those emotions. You know, it's like this is

2030
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 1: a long winding episode, but it's like a lot of

2031
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 1: communities on social media are now communities based on emotions.

2032
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 1: It's communities of fear, communities of anger, communities of anxiety, anxiety,

2033
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and so much of that drives community

2034
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:38,679
Speaker 1: for people that these stop asking is that a good

2035
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:41,799
Speaker 1: thing to build a community on, because when it becomes

2036
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 1: an essential part of the community, it means you can't

2037
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:51,120
Speaker 1: really leave, Like if you get over your anxiety, you

2038
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 1: can't be here anymore. We're the anxious community. It reminds

2039
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:58,480
Speaker 1: me when I would get added to these blurred communities

2040
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:00,679
Speaker 1: and I told them stop adding me and start taking

2041
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 1: myself out, because it was really about black people's racial

2042
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:08,360
Speaker 1: anxiety more than it was about any enjoying anything. If something,

2043
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:10,880
Speaker 1: if they liked something, it would be, well, how they're

2044
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 1: gonna fuck this up? If they didn't like something that

2045
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 1: was of course it's terrible because you know, everybody's racist

2046
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 1: black people, or you know, it's the worst for us.

2047
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,679
Speaker 1: If it was a black person that got some good

2048
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 1: news it was the wrong kind of black person, or

2049
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 1: or how you know, once again, how it's known or

2050
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 1: not work or whatever. And I just realized, like, oh,

2051
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:31,880
Speaker 1: this is actually a space for racial anxiety. It's not

2052
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 1: really a space for nerding out, this is no. The

2053
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:39,599
Speaker 1: nerding year is we're sad. And I knew because anytime presented,

2054
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:43,679
Speaker 1: you know me, anytime presented like, oh man, I'm really excited.

2055
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:47,880
Speaker 1: I just saw this fan made static shock trailer and

2056
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:50,120
Speaker 1: that would be dope if daking well, it's never gonna

2057
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 1: get made because al right, okay, you know that kind

2058
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:54,360
Speaker 1: of thing.

2059
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 2: It's time to leave, right And the thing is the

2060
01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:01,439
Speaker 2: most important thing to go back to what I was

2061
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:05,479
Speaker 2: dayzam for college. You allowed me to feel the emotion,

2062
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:09,240
Speaker 2: which I think is the biggest piece. And the reason

2063
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 2: why I say that is because the emotion itself is

2064
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 2: not the problem. For a lot of people, the emotion

2065
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 2: itself is the problem, or the emotion itself is the

2066
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 2: vehicle to justify your actions. And the thing is you

2067
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 2: was like, okay, you are allowed to feel this, but

2068
01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 2: once this feeling leaves, you are still here and nothing

2069
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 2: has changed. And this is where I was talking about.

2070
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:34,679
Speaker 2: I'm coming from someone who's put in the work because

2071
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:38,639
Speaker 2: what happened was and it took a while, and shout

2072
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 2: out to Rogick for patients, because what he would do

2073
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 2: he would ask me questions and I couldn't answer them,

2074
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 2: and he would literally be like, well, go back up

2075
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 2: there until you get an answer, and I would go

2076
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 2: and I would come back and I would have a

2077
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 2: little bit more information, but I still wouldn't have enough,

2078
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 2: and each time I would cry, but the tears got

2079
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:58,719
Speaker 2: less and less, So I knew that I was building

2080
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 2: up the courage until only got to the point where

2081
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:03,560
Speaker 2: one day he sent me back up there because I

2082
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:05,639
Speaker 2: got tired of going back. I was like, you know what, Karen,

2083
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:09,800
Speaker 2: don't leave this fuck er until you can explain to

2084
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:12,559
Speaker 2: Roder exactly what was happening. They go to they use

2085
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 2: these big words, they use these big terms. I didn't

2086
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 2: know what was happening, and I couldn't explain. And that's

2087
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 2: why to me, I'm the person in meetings, even at

2088
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 2: work whatever. I was like, what does that mean? And

2089
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:23,760
Speaker 2: everybody was like, well, thank god. I was like yes,

2090
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:26,120
Speaker 2: because y'all using your own language and nobody here knows

2091
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:28,679
Speaker 2: what the fuck you're talking about. Everybody now, and then

2092
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:31,240
Speaker 2: next week when the expectations that you everybody knew what

2093
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 2: the fuck they was talking about, you were held accountable

2094
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 2: for some shit that you didn't really know. Because you

2095
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:38,200
Speaker 2: want to meet and to move on, and so That's

2096
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:42,800
Speaker 2: what that kind of taught me, where if if, if

2097
01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:44,640
Speaker 2: I can explain it, and they were like, well this

2098
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:46,760
Speaker 2: was I was like, what does that mean? Break it

2099
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:49,000
Speaker 2: down a little bit more. So I got to the

2100
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 2: point where I forced them to force feed me so

2101
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:55,800
Speaker 2: that when you asked me a question, I had the

2102
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:58,679
Speaker 2: answers like I was. And I was so proud of myself.

2103
01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 2: I know that might not sound like a big but

2104
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:03,320
Speaker 2: I was so proud of myself that I went in

2105
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:06,559
Speaker 2: there and I demanded and I did not leave until

2106
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 2: I got the answers that I wanted, And that was

2107
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:10,920
Speaker 2: kind of opposite of how it was raised.

2108
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think yeah, at some point, asking the deeper

2109
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 1: question to a lot of people who became like a

2110
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 1: bad thing, right And you know, as you just said me,

2111
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 1: asking a deeper question help you process, get to the

2112
01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:27,720
Speaker 1: bottom of something, move on, fund motivation, And to me,

2113
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 1: maybe it's just a gen X thing. I'm gonna always

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01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 1: feel that way, like it's not the emotion. It's the emotions,

2115
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:37,599
Speaker 1: not even the bad guy. It's just processing and pushing

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01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:39,640
Speaker 1: through it as part of the process. It's not the

2117
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:42,439
Speaker 1: landing spot, but for a lot of people it is

2118
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:45,000
Speaker 1: the landing spot. And that's why they're mad at Aliwan,

2119
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:48,920
Speaker 1: because they need to be mad, and they don't want

2120
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:51,080
Speaker 1: to ever question why they need to be mad. And

2121
01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:54,360
Speaker 1: I guarantee if you go on those people's timelines or whatever,

2122
01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:56,880
Speaker 1: you'll see every third fourth post it's just them mad

2123
01:48:56,920 --> 01:48:59,640
Speaker 1: about some shit. And we live in the world right

2124
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:01,559
Speaker 1: now where people mad about a lot of stuff they

2125
01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 1: can't change. You know that the government racism, They the

2126
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:10,000
Speaker 1: right to their own reproductive systems. Like, there's a lot

2127
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 1: of anger out there and we're taking it out on

2128
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:16,880
Speaker 1: TV shows and celebrities. We're treating celebrities like politicians and

2129
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:18,679
Speaker 1: politicians like celebrities, right.

2130
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 2: And also it's one of those things. And it makes

2131
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:25,160
Speaker 2: sense to why you have people that get in their emotions,

2132
01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:26,559
Speaker 2: but they won't vote because they're not what.

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01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 1: Put because your emotion was the landing spot. It was

2134
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:34,800
Speaker 1: the for them, the end was the emotion. You're yeah,

2135
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 1: you're so on point with that.

2136
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:39,759
Speaker 2: And and for me it helped me analyze things. And actually,

2137
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 2: in my opinion this is me it built character, Like

2138
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:46,400
Speaker 2: like when I mean it built character because I'm not

2139
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:49,880
Speaker 2: going to stop at the emotions and I've put like

2140
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 2: this It's like anything else, like when you work out.

2141
01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:56,360
Speaker 2: As you work out, you get stronger, and so as

2142
01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 2: I begin to utilize that skill, I got stronger in it.

2143
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:02,639
Speaker 2: You can't do it one time and then just expect

2144
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 2: it to be automatic. It's something that you've got to

2145
01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:08,320
Speaker 2: put the grind in every day or whenever these situations

2146
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 2: come up, be aware and alert and not slip back

2147
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 2: into those old habits where for me, it is a

2148
01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 2: standard now if I go somewhere or somebody's trying to

2149
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 2: explain something to me, for me to have a standard

2150
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 2: where oh no, no, we're not gonna leave here until

2151
01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 2: I understand. I don't care nothing about your face turning up.

2152
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:30,120
Speaker 2: I don't care nothing about you getting frustrated. I don't

2153
01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 2: care nothing about your huffing and puffing because I've dealt

2154
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 2: with coworkers who would help Nah, I don't care about that.

2155
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:37,680
Speaker 2: I'm looking past your emotions and I want you to

2156
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:40,479
Speaker 2: give me the answer that I need to do my job,

2157
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 2: or the answer that I need to relate this because

2158
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:47,200
Speaker 2: sometimes me not knowing something could be very critical to

2159
01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:50,599
Speaker 2: the next decision that I'm going to make. But I

2160
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:53,560
Speaker 2: want to make the best decision with all the information

2161
01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 2: that I have, and people are making decisions and they

2162
01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 2: don't have all the information, and then they get mad

2163
01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 2: at people that I want to I want to wait

2164
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:03,439
Speaker 2: and I want to think, and I want to wait

2165
01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:05,759
Speaker 2: till we get on more information. You want to answer

2166
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:08,400
Speaker 2: now because you don't want to actually wait for the

2167
01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:10,200
Speaker 2: due process. Yeah.

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01:51:10,280 --> 01:51:12,759
Speaker 1: I just feel like a lot of times is taboo

2169
01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 1: to be like, why do you niggas need this?

2170
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 2: You know?

2171
01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:24,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, back to this. Rogers says it keeping your

2172
01:51:24,439 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 1: foot and keep your foot on these niggas next, so

2173
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:28,840
Speaker 1: keep your toilers out of the White House, keep your

2174
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:31,800
Speaker 1: foot on these niggas next, and Valerie says babies are

2175
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 1: just short terrorists. So I get it, very valid point.

2176
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:43,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the to the voicemails. I

2177
01:51:43,400 --> 01:52:09,960
Speaker 1: think this might be my brother. And that's one of

2178
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:12,800
Speaker 1: those older beats too, Eve be trying to take you

2179
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:14,640
Speaker 1: on the whole journey. It's only thirty seconds in. I

2180
01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:18,640
Speaker 1: feel like the song hadn't even started. Really, we got voicemails.

2181
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:21,599
Speaker 1: Let's check out. We got one voicemail. Let's see where

2182
01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:25,679
Speaker 1: this is from Karen.

2183
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 3: This is Jackie. I will just giving you a call

2184
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:31,280
Speaker 3: heaven a message tell y'all, I thank y'all and I

2185
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 3: appreciate y'all. Last week was the third year anniversary that

2186
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:41,800
Speaker 3: my dad passed, and y'all have always been a fixture,

2187
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:45,719
Speaker 3: you know, just listening to you guys, just laughing with y'all,

2188
01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 3: giving us the news and all that good stuff. But

2189
01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:51,760
Speaker 3: I just want to say thank you in particular for

2190
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:56,639
Speaker 3: being a comforting thing in this time, as I still

2191
01:52:56,760 --> 01:53:00,720
Speaker 3: grieve of a lot better than I was, you know,

2192
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 3: when it first happened. But I just want to say

2193
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 3: I appreciate y'all and that will continue to support listen

2194
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 3: and last alone with you guys and learn also all right, man,

2195
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:13,040
Speaker 3: have a good one.

2196
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:15,800
Speaker 2: Thank you Jackie.

2197
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:18,080
Speaker 1: And we always see Jackie in the chat and stuff,

2198
01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:21,920
Speaker 1: hanging out. Uh, pretty much a fixture of the chat

2199
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 1: room at this point. And you know I played ball

2200
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:28,280
Speaker 1: with him before and stuff. Real cool dude. So we

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01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 1: appreciate you, Jackie. And you know, obviously we offered our

2202
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 1: condoss at the time, but you know, I feel like

2203
01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 1: that's a process that's you know, grief is never done

2204
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:41,639
Speaker 1: with people, you know, it kind of comes and goes

2205
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:45,760
Speaker 1: at times. So uh, and man, I'm happy to be

2206
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:51,880
Speaker 1: putting anything into this world that brings people comfort, uh, thoughtfulness,

2207
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:54,120
Speaker 1: because I don't like that's the other thing too. I

2208
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 1: might I feel strongest fuck about everything I'm saying right now,

2209
01:53:57,240 --> 01:54:01,360
Speaker 1: as I always do, but sometimes something else happens and

2210
01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 1: you change in mind. There's times we've changed over the years.

2211
01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:10,560
Speaker 1: There's times where and there's also just like the conversation

2212
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:13,679
Speaker 1: and the thought that I want to have with Karen

2213
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:18,600
Speaker 1: and y'all here is hopefully something you're not getting everywhere

2214
01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:26,000
Speaker 1: because I think, not sorry, I'm trying to find a

2215
01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:28,479
Speaker 1: way to say this that doesn't disparage a lot of

2216
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 1: other podcasts.

2217
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:35,120
Speaker 2: That's a Harvard but like.

2218
01:54:35,120 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 1: There's an industry of black folks that just repeat black

2219
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 1: twitters thesis of the day back to black Twitter, and they,

2220
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:49,560
Speaker 1: to me, are just as flawed with the incongruence, with

2221
01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 1: the lack of nuance, with the lack of thought, and

2222
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 1: they mostly come off fake because I one hundred percent

2223
01:54:55,840 --> 01:54:57,920
Speaker 1: feel like if I sat at the table with those people,

2224
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:03,080
Speaker 1: they would not really feel that way strongly, not even

2225
01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:06,720
Speaker 1: strongly the way they're talking. They will be like, oh no, no,

2226
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 1: niggas's tripping, but I gotta do my show and my show.

2227
01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:16,720
Speaker 1: Don't like insert random person here, so I can't fuck

2228
01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:18,680
Speaker 1: with them. But oh I don't have a real problem

2229
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:20,840
Speaker 1: with that person though, you see what I'm saying, Like

2230
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:22,720
Speaker 1: I got, I get those vibes from a lot of shows,

2231
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:24,040
Speaker 1: and I just don't want to do a fake ass

2232
01:55:24,040 --> 01:55:26,480
Speaker 1: show like that. I would like y'all to feel like

2233
01:55:26,920 --> 01:55:30,000
Speaker 1: at least y'all are getting some reality here. And I think,

2234
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:33,960
Speaker 1: just like all good comedy and all good art, the

2235
01:55:34,160 --> 01:55:37,880
Speaker 1: unifying thing is in the individualism. It's in Karen telling

2236
01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:42,760
Speaker 1: y'all about her experience on the campus with financial aid

2237
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:48,240
Speaker 1: and all that at some point y'all were in those shoes,

2238
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 1: just maybe not the same shoes somewhere in your life

2239
01:55:51,080 --> 01:55:53,280
Speaker 1: you was like, oh, yeah, I wasn't speaking up or

2240
01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 1: I might be doing through that now, and I need

2241
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:57,880
Speaker 1: to push through this so I can get to where

2242
01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:01,680
Speaker 1: I need to go. And I think that's what makes something.

2243
01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 1: I think that's what makes the blackout tips dope. I

2244
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:09,600
Speaker 1: don't think just just us all sitting around pretending to

2245
01:56:09,640 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 1: be fake ass, Like uh, this tweet was probably on Twitter,

2246
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:15,760
Speaker 1: and I agree with it because I need y'all to

2247
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 1: talk about me the same way that.

2248
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:21,240
Speaker 2: Shit right, and it's not the same. And when you

2249
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 2: talk about the emotions now, I'm to the point to

2250
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:28,720
Speaker 2: wear sometimes tell me to calm down because now I

2251
01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:31,480
Speaker 2: don't get sad when shit happened, I get angry and

2252
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:33,800
Speaker 2: I get into fix it mode, like what can we

2253
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 2: do to fix this? And we're gonna get this right?

2254
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:38,440
Speaker 2: And yes, let me live by my name and let

2255
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:40,480
Speaker 2: me get to emailing people and type of letters. I

2256
01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 2: become the whole, full fledged, a white woman of color

2257
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 2: on shit now. Like so I went almost like to

2258
01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:48,720
Speaker 2: the opposite end while I'm like, well, what you ain't

2259
01:56:48,800 --> 01:56:52,560
Speaker 2: gonna do? I become that person.

2260
01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:55,320
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to the emails. It's the last thing,

2261
01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:28,320
Speaker 1: not the horns, right.

2262
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll see you.

2263
01:57:34,280 --> 01:57:36,880
Speaker 1: All right. Emails Aaron Wright saying, hey, y'all, I read

2264
01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:39,240
Speaker 1: a tip somewhere that said to read three or four

2265
01:57:39,240 --> 01:57:41,640
Speaker 1: star reviews because they're more realistic and we'll talk about

2266
01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:44,160
Speaker 1: the positives and the negatives of a product. I don't

2267
01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:46,560
Speaker 1: really trust multiple five star reviews anymore because they all

2268
01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 1: seem fake. I mean, i'd agree with that, except I'll

2269
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:52,120
Speaker 1: be dropping five star reviews for everything me too. And

2270
01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:54,480
Speaker 1: our podcast policy nigga, what you're talking about?

2271
01:57:56,720 --> 01:57:58,839
Speaker 2: You say, post stars, We don't see it. We're blind.

2272
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:02,360
Speaker 1: You wrote the wrong place. Uh, Lenner Brothers b g

2273
01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:04,560
Speaker 1: O L was a one stop shop. Now I knew

2274
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:08,080
Speaker 1: his horny ass was up on Okay, I don't know

2275
01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:10,360
Speaker 1: what his user name is, but I'm sure.

2276
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:12,640
Speaker 2: Linda was like I was in the house, my nigga,

2277
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure he was that he was, and I was

2278
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:18,040
Speaker 2: on all the boards.

2279
01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:20,040
Speaker 1: If they had a betting eyes I don't know about

2280
01:58:20,120 --> 01:58:21,960
Speaker 1: s O ah hh, but they had a betting odds

2281
01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:24,360
Speaker 1: of who was on bg O L in our audience.

2282
01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:28,240
Speaker 1: Lenner Brothers is in the top three, yes, and he

2283
01:58:28,320 --> 01:58:32,320
Speaker 1: went number three right. And you know who wasn't on there,

2284
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:36,840
Speaker 1: Jail Koban. I'm sure he wasn't. Lenner brother says, what up?

2285
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:38,840
Speaker 1: Y'all shout out to the person who mentioned bg O

2286
01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:41,120
Speaker 1: L and last feedback show man. That place was the

2287
01:58:41,200 --> 01:58:43,680
Speaker 1: ship La L Rod. I know you and some of

2288
01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:45,880
Speaker 1: my other favorite podcasters were on the old s O

2289
01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:47,920
Speaker 1: A J since this board back in the day. I

2290
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:51,120
Speaker 1: was never a member there, told you, but I used

2291
01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:53,280
Speaker 1: to read that ship all the time. I actually discovered

2292
01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:55,400
Speaker 1: bg O L because of S o a h board.

2293
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:57,960
Speaker 2: Okay, even he was around, he just he just never

2294
01:58:58,200 --> 01:58:58,680
Speaker 2: signed up.

2295
01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:02,000
Speaker 1: Like you said, that initial draw to BGL was the porn,

2296
01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:04,440
Speaker 1: But once I started looking around realized there's a lot

2297
01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:07,640
Speaker 1: more than that on there. It really like, I really,

2298
01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:10,840
Speaker 1: I know how it sounds to y'all that's never heard

2299
01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 1: it as or don't care, but I really cannot stress.

2300
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:15,800
Speaker 1: It was actually like a hub, a.

2301
01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:16,680
Speaker 2: One shot stop.

2302
01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:20,120
Speaker 1: It was like a place for black people that were

2303
01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:22,920
Speaker 1: attracted to black women to hang out and talk. But

2304
01:59:23,080 --> 01:59:25,880
Speaker 1: also like it was more than that because there were

2305
01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:28,160
Speaker 1: boards that you know, with women on them and stuff

2306
01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:31,280
Speaker 1: that wasn't Like it wasn't all just horned up dudes

2307
01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:34,040
Speaker 1: jacking off. It was. It was a message board that

2308
01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:39,800
Speaker 1: just wasn't that just had poorn on it too. Like anyway,

2309
01:59:40,240 --> 01:59:42,000
Speaker 1: I actually did post a lot for a while. I'm

2310
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:43,880
Speaker 1: not gonna tell y'all my screen name though I knew,

2311
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:46,880
Speaker 1: I knew, but whatever, whether I was posting or just

2312
01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:49,000
Speaker 1: scrolling through some of the different pages on the board,

2313
01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:52,080
Speaker 1: I came across a ton of dope, interesting content. Everything

2314
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:59,120
Speaker 1: for topical discussion, silly shit, software, movie, old software, nigga, nigga, Oh,

2315
01:59:59,160 --> 02:00:02,320
Speaker 1: the programs that download off of BG O L. It

2316
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:05,040
Speaker 1: really don't make no, because there was like a thread

2317
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:08,600
Speaker 1: for everything. And I'm talking about I was getting the

2318
02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:12,840
Speaker 1: Microsoft Office Suite off of that ship. Like they'd be like,

2319
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:17,240
Speaker 1: download this ship, un zip it on your computer and

2320
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:21,280
Speaker 1: put this password in and now you got Microsoft Office.

2321
02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:23,720
Speaker 2: Sweet. And that's when them was expensive to get you,

2322
02:00:23,880 --> 02:00:25,920
Speaker 2: paying hundreds of dollars for the whole.

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Speaker 1: Sweet and listen, I'm not even fitting to pretend like

2324
02:00:30,920 --> 02:00:34,080
Speaker 1: because some of y'all like, really, you downloaded niggas, download.

2325
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:34,400
Speaker 2: The porn.

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02:00:36,040 --> 02:00:38,360
Speaker 1: If they was, if the if the viruses was on

2327
02:00:38,440 --> 02:00:40,960
Speaker 1: the ship, they already got me. So why not get

2328
02:00:41,000 --> 02:00:42,240
Speaker 1: a youthful.

2329
02:00:41,800 --> 02:00:45,080
Speaker 2: Program like why not ba able to type of my

2330
02:00:45,160 --> 02:00:47,760
Speaker 2: reports now without having to go to the to the

2331
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:49,520
Speaker 2: last let me.

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02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:51,880
Speaker 1: Get fruity loops and now me and my brother putting

2333
02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:54,600
Speaker 1: the album out like yes, shit, why not?

2334
02:00:54,920 --> 02:00:56,960
Speaker 2: Yes? And how the computer last part don't exist? No,

2335
02:00:56,960 --> 02:00:58,600
Speaker 2: but everybody got their own computer back in the day.

2336
02:00:58,680 --> 02:01:01,000
Speaker 2: You didn't have a computer on your room or laptop

2337
02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:02,560
Speaker 2: and those ship like that, Yeah, I take you as

2338
02:01:02,600 --> 02:01:03,320
Speaker 2: a computer lab.

2339
02:01:03,640 --> 02:01:06,480
Speaker 1: It was my parens. She made a different point, but

2340
02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:09,600
Speaker 1: I understand your point. It was my I wasn't on

2341
02:01:09,640 --> 02:01:12,360
Speaker 1: the computer lab on Black Girl Online. That's crazy. Uh,

2342
02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:15,280
Speaker 1: they monitor for back off suites.

2343
02:01:16,120 --> 02:01:18,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know, some people were just getting personal computers,

2344
02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:20,640
Speaker 2: so you might have had a computer that didn't have

2345
02:01:20,760 --> 02:01:22,120
Speaker 2: sweet Oh you mean your yeah.

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02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:24,240
Speaker 1: Oh no, A lot of the computers didn't come with

2347
02:01:24,280 --> 02:01:26,080
Speaker 1: that at the time. I don't know if you remember this.

2348
02:01:26,520 --> 02:01:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's a long time ago, but you would

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02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:31,320
Speaker 1: buy a computer and you know, from like Dell or

2350
02:01:31,320 --> 02:01:34,000
Speaker 1: some ship, and they'd be like, oh, you can pay

2351
02:01:34,080 --> 02:01:37,880
Speaker 1: extra and get Microsoft Office. And I'd be like, oh no,

2352
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:40,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just download that ship free of Black Girl Online.

2353
02:01:40,240 --> 02:01:42,560
Speaker 1: Thank you. I'll take it without the two hundred dollars

2354
02:01:42,560 --> 02:01:43,280
Speaker 1: package appreciation.

2355
02:01:43,440 --> 02:01:44,560
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying.

2356
02:01:44,640 --> 02:01:47,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know, I'm with you now. It's just we

2357
02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:48,640
Speaker 1: was talking about two different.

2358
02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:50,960
Speaker 2: Things, you know what.

2359
02:01:51,240 --> 02:01:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry sometimes you go off on your own thing.

2360
02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:57,080
Speaker 1: It's uh, it was It's like a shuffle like part

2361
02:01:57,120 --> 02:01:59,400
Speaker 1: of the audience it's like, oh yeah, it was my

2362
02:02:00,360 --> 02:02:01,840
Speaker 1: I've bet some of us saying oh yeah, I remember

2363
02:02:01,880 --> 02:02:06,480
Speaker 1: computer Nass membery Lane. It was a one stop shop

2364
02:02:06,520 --> 02:02:07,960
Speaker 1: for a long time, so I lots a while the

2365
02:02:08,040 --> 02:02:10,800
Speaker 1: ugly shit on that too. Yup. I think a lot

2366
02:02:10,840 --> 02:02:13,200
Speaker 1: of ways my experience that helped people prepare me for

2367
02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:18,120
Speaker 1: social media. I for sure social media message boards definitely

2368
02:02:18,400 --> 02:02:21,160
Speaker 1: got me ready for social media, Like I hit social

2369
02:02:21,160 --> 02:02:23,800
Speaker 1: media with the ground running, because I was just like, oh,

2370
02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:26,160
Speaker 1: I've been here. There was no type of person I

2371
02:02:26,200 --> 02:02:30,080
Speaker 1: hadn't seen. And also the real blessing of it was

2372
02:02:30,120 --> 02:02:34,880
Speaker 1: that it showed me without truly becoming like trying to

2373
02:02:34,920 --> 02:02:37,200
Speaker 1: outdo these people, because I know these people that try

2374
02:02:37,240 --> 02:02:39,240
Speaker 1: to outdo the trolls, and I don't respect those people,

2375
02:02:39,280 --> 02:02:42,240
Speaker 1: and I think those people are horrible people for real,

2376
02:02:42,320 --> 02:02:45,080
Speaker 1: in real life. And that's why you got people where

2377
02:02:45,120 --> 02:02:47,440
Speaker 1: their old tweets are saying shit like dark skinned black

2378
02:02:47,480 --> 02:02:51,120
Speaker 1: women ain't shit because because they wanted to outdo the trolls,

2379
02:02:51,120 --> 02:02:55,280
Speaker 1: they were in a troll competition. Yes, what for me

2380
02:02:55,600 --> 02:02:57,680
Speaker 1: it did was show me the pitfalls of those type

2381
02:02:57,720 --> 02:03:00,200
Speaker 1: of people. And I didn't want to be like them,

2382
02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:02,560
Speaker 1: but it showed me that those people were out there

2383
02:03:02,840 --> 02:03:05,080
Speaker 1: and a lot of people weren't ready for that. And

2384
02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:08,560
Speaker 1: somebody show me that arguing with them and going back

2385
02:03:08,640 --> 02:03:12,240
Speaker 1: and forth with them and escalating. I saw the pitfalls

2386
02:03:12,240 --> 02:03:14,440
Speaker 1: of that because I had seen someone big docks before,

2387
02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:17,520
Speaker 1: I had seen someone be revenge forn, before I had

2388
02:03:17,560 --> 02:03:21,000
Speaker 1: seen someone be threatened online. I had seen so much

2389
02:03:21,120 --> 02:03:24,680
Speaker 1: shit that I never got on Twitter and felt like, well,

2390
02:03:24,720 --> 02:03:27,040
Speaker 1: this ain't real life. I was always kind of like,

2391
02:03:27,680 --> 02:03:31,000
Speaker 1: oh yeah, at least I always had a little more

2392
02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:33,480
Speaker 1: knowledge than others. I still made mistakes and tweeted shit

2393
02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:36,600
Speaker 1: that I'm sure I regret, because it's impossible to tweet

2394
02:03:36,640 --> 02:03:39,480
Speaker 1: that many things over that long period time without learning

2395
02:03:39,480 --> 02:03:42,960
Speaker 1: and growing. But I just didn't hit the ground completely

2396
02:03:42,960 --> 02:03:46,560
Speaker 1: thinking it was all made up. I still remember very

2397
02:03:46,600 --> 02:03:49,400
Speaker 1: popular users would be on Twitter like posting pictures of

2398
02:03:49,440 --> 02:03:52,560
Speaker 1: a titties and shit, and I'd be like, wow, that

2399
02:03:52,720 --> 02:03:56,960
Speaker 1: person does not understand. Everyone's gonna see Everyone can see

2400
02:03:57,000 --> 02:04:00,480
Speaker 1: this and it's forever, so like ten years now, when

2401
02:04:00,520 --> 02:04:04,560
Speaker 1: you've made changes and decided to be like a chef,

2402
02:04:05,320 --> 02:04:08,520
Speaker 1: someone's just gonna be like, remember look at her teddies

2403
02:04:08,760 --> 02:04:12,120
Speaker 1: Like because these aren't good people, there's there should be

2404
02:04:12,160 --> 02:04:16,280
Speaker 1: no assumption of community or like you, we used to

2405
02:04:16,280 --> 02:04:19,320
Speaker 1: have a say, sa changes for the wolves, And that's

2406
02:04:19,360 --> 02:04:21,160
Speaker 1: how it felt when I got on Twitter. It was like,

2407
02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:24,840
Speaker 1: this is still a wolf territory. This ain't safe, right, And.

2408
02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:28,520
Speaker 2: It's also one of those things where for a lot

2409
02:04:28,520 --> 02:04:30,920
Speaker 2: of people they still keep their handles, or some much

2410
02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:33,440
Speaker 2: changed their handles and just literally deleted their tweets and

2411
02:04:33,520 --> 02:04:35,640
Speaker 2: so next thing, you know, I'm like, well, damn, how

2412
02:04:35,720 --> 02:04:37,720
Speaker 2: you get the one again? That's because there was like nope,

2413
02:04:37,760 --> 02:04:38,440
Speaker 2: fuck all that.

2414
02:04:39,160 --> 02:04:42,080
Speaker 1: Yep. So he goes on to say, I think that's

2415
02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:43,640
Speaker 1: true for everyone that was on the message boys when

2416
02:04:43,640 --> 02:04:45,600
Speaker 1: they were popping. Anyway, it's all I got for now,

2417
02:04:45,680 --> 02:04:48,840
Speaker 1: peace yep. And I mean Little Brothers still kind of

2418
02:04:48,920 --> 02:04:51,920
Speaker 1: run his shit like Bjoel, Like, if it's an Instagram

2419
02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:56,000
Speaker 1: model or somebody out there that that's got the titties popping.

2420
02:04:56,120 --> 02:04:57,240
Speaker 2: You be telling on you.

2421
02:04:57,160 --> 02:04:59,480
Speaker 1: You see, I'm not talking about Instagram. I'm talking about

2422
02:04:59,480 --> 02:05:03,560
Speaker 1: his Twitter. Okay, So he'll be on Twitter and if

2423
02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:07,600
Speaker 1: it's like, uh, you know, sun dress season, my nipples

2424
02:05:07,600 --> 02:05:10,320
Speaker 1: popping out through this dress, Little Brothers is retweeting that.

2425
02:05:10,920 --> 02:05:13,400
Speaker 1: And I appreciate him for that because I do want

2426
02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:16,880
Speaker 1: to see if I even if I would not do

2427
02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:20,200
Speaker 1: the same thing at this point, and even if I'm

2428
02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:23,160
Speaker 1: just like I'm never gonna pretend to be somebody I'm not,

2429
02:05:23,360 --> 02:05:25,440
Speaker 1: it's you know, My whole Instagram is like, oh, you

2430
02:05:25,480 --> 02:05:27,240
Speaker 1: would like to show me your butt? I would like

2431
02:05:27,280 --> 02:05:32,080
Speaker 1: to see it. So I've still I've never changed from

2432
02:05:32,160 --> 02:05:36,880
Speaker 1: the bjol days. I just am a gentleman now, okay,

2433
02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:40,720
Speaker 1: but you're not You're not. Rvy's dn d Dice says

2434
02:05:40,040 --> 02:05:44,480
Speaker 1: the day of these articles. Oh so this dude, Scott said,

2435
02:05:44,560 --> 02:05:47,160
Speaker 1: and the date on the articles April seventeen, not April first.

2436
02:05:47,160 --> 02:05:49,240
Speaker 1: I don't trust. It can't be real. Why would anyone

2437
02:05:49,320 --> 02:05:53,560
Speaker 1: buy or own deep Dungeons and Dragons Dice from rby

2438
02:05:53,680 --> 02:05:56,840
Speaker 1: So Arby's has a set of Dungeons and Dragons Dice?

2439
02:05:57,360 --> 02:05:58,800
Speaker 2: What is it promoting the movie?

2440
02:05:59,400 --> 02:06:01,360
Speaker 1: I guess so, but the movies. I've been out for

2441
02:06:01,400 --> 02:06:04,840
Speaker 1: over a month and this is my fucking point.

2442
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:08,160
Speaker 2: Gud, Who is buying these dice?

2443
02:06:08,520 --> 02:06:11,480
Speaker 1: No one? And you know why because of the money

2444
02:06:11,560 --> 02:06:17,120
Speaker 1: laundering organization. They're not selling anything and they clear they're

2445
02:06:17,120 --> 02:06:20,120
Speaker 1: not even whites. They're not selling beef and chatters or

2446
02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:23,520
Speaker 1: fucking twelve sided dice because they don't need to because

2447
02:06:23,520 --> 02:06:24,960
Speaker 1: it's about drug money.

2448
02:06:25,400 --> 02:06:26,280
Speaker 2: They got the beef.

2449
02:06:26,720 --> 02:06:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are books are on the books that like,

2450
02:06:28,840 --> 02:06:31,880
Speaker 1: oh yeah, we sold twenty million sets of dice. It's

2451
02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:34,520
Speaker 1: like twenty million, says a DICE's they don't add up.

2452
02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:37,880
Speaker 2: Well that's what we did. Who bought on these dice?

2453
02:06:38,000 --> 02:06:39,640
Speaker 1: And don't look in the background.

2454
02:06:39,280 --> 02:06:41,320
Speaker 2: And see guy's looking like crystal pieces.

2455
02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:43,240
Speaker 1: Don't look in the back and see push your tea

2456
02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:46,960
Speaker 1: fucking in there in the kitchen cooking something up. Don't

2457
02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:50,080
Speaker 1: worry about that. The only thing that touched them pots

2458
02:06:50,160 --> 02:06:51,080
Speaker 1: is Cakayena.

2459
02:06:51,560 --> 02:06:52,280
Speaker 2: Nothing to see him.

2460
02:06:52,880 --> 02:06:57,480
Speaker 1: Uh, absolutely hilarious. This is our girl. Uh sick who says,

2461
02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:01,160
Speaker 1: God damn, this weed is hidden. High Ride is absolutely

2462
02:07:01,160 --> 02:07:03,520
Speaker 1: my favorite ride, mostly because I listened to the show

2463
02:07:03,600 --> 02:07:08,640
Speaker 1: High so that's how I be feeling too. So then

2464
02:07:08,640 --> 02:07:10,720
Speaker 1: you got the hook up dm me on Instagram. Girl,

2465
02:07:10,760 --> 02:07:13,320
Speaker 1: I need to I'm almost out of gummies.

2466
02:07:13,600 --> 02:07:13,880
Speaker 2: Karen.

2467
02:07:13,960 --> 02:07:16,040
Speaker 1: You are brilliant and I love the way nigga slides

2468
02:07:16,080 --> 02:07:19,919
Speaker 1: out your mouth so smooth as Southern love. Y'all heart emogic,

2469
02:07:19,960 --> 02:07:20,720
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you.

2470
02:07:21,080 --> 02:07:22,480
Speaker 2: It's my favorite world to.

2471
02:07:22,440 --> 02:07:25,760
Speaker 1: Say, DM me about the weak the gummies twenty six

2472
02:07:25,840 --> 02:07:30,880
Speaker 1: ninety eight Grievous Advigators. I'm almost out. Hello, Karen A Rod.

2473
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:33,880
Speaker 1: This will be some TMI about myself, but I'm trying

2474
02:07:33,920 --> 02:07:36,720
Speaker 1: to make a point. Lol. All right, Aaron gow On,

2475
02:07:37,400 --> 02:07:39,080
Speaker 1: I started going to therapy at the beginning of the

2476
02:07:39,120 --> 02:07:40,760
Speaker 1: year and it's helped me a lot. One of the

2477
02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:43,120
Speaker 1: things is helping me a lot. One of the things

2478
02:07:43,120 --> 02:07:44,720
Speaker 1: I had to come to terms with myself is a

2479
02:07:44,760 --> 02:07:46,840
Speaker 1: constant need to keep my mind busy because I'm scared

2480
02:07:46,880 --> 02:07:48,760
Speaker 1: to be alone with my thoughts and sit with myself.

2481
02:07:48,920 --> 02:07:50,880
Speaker 1: While I don't use social media as much anymore, I

2482
02:07:50,960 --> 02:07:53,960
Speaker 1: keep myself busy by listening to podcasts, watch the TV shows, movies,

2483
02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:56,600
Speaker 1: going out to eat, hanging with friends every weekend, et cetera.

2484
02:07:56,920 --> 02:07:59,040
Speaker 1: Therapy is helping me realize that I'm uncomfortable with my

2485
02:07:59,040 --> 02:08:01,240
Speaker 1: thoughts because I'm scared to think about my life, what

2486
02:08:01,360 --> 02:08:03,600
Speaker 1: happened to me growing up, dealing with my parents and others,

2487
02:08:03,880 --> 02:08:06,680
Speaker 1: and just not being comfortable with who I am. Hence

2488
02:08:06,720 --> 02:08:09,120
Speaker 1: the need to constantly do things. I'm doing better now,

2489
02:08:09,160 --> 02:08:11,680
Speaker 1: but it's still a lot of work. I say all

2490
02:08:11,720 --> 02:08:14,360
Speaker 1: this because maybe one of the reasons love to people

2491
02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:17,000
Speaker 1: love to hate to have people love to have hate

2492
02:08:17,000 --> 02:08:20,080
Speaker 1: communities online and are always trying to pick upart, celebrities

2493
02:08:20,080 --> 02:08:22,160
Speaker 1: and shows that everything else we see in the media

2494
02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:24,640
Speaker 1: is because they could not be okay with themselves and

2495
02:08:24,720 --> 02:08:27,640
Speaker 1: not ready to deal with their own personal lives, so

2496
02:08:27,680 --> 02:08:29,920
Speaker 1: they need to project their insecurities on the others. And

2497
02:08:29,960 --> 02:08:32,640
Speaker 1: they also get validation and they that they can't give

2498
02:08:32,720 --> 02:08:34,920
Speaker 1: to themselves. Nigga, that's bars one.

2499
02:08:34,880 --> 02:08:39,560
Speaker 2: Hundred percent agreed. Yes, you have hit the nail on

2500
02:08:39,640 --> 02:08:44,200
Speaker 2: the head. It's one of those things to where like

2501
02:08:44,240 --> 02:08:47,480
Speaker 2: I said, this is coming from somebody who has been there,

2502
02:08:47,960 --> 02:08:53,280
Speaker 2: so for me personally, there's always truth behind that. Like

2503
02:08:53,640 --> 02:08:56,920
Speaker 2: I kind of I'm to the point now where with

2504
02:08:57,120 --> 02:08:59,960
Speaker 2: somebody comes at me with heavy emotions and this is

2505
02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:02,600
Speaker 2: whether the emotion and intelligence I have to look past

2506
02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:06,200
Speaker 2: the emotion to steering me in the face and look

2507
02:09:06,280 --> 02:09:09,240
Speaker 2: behind it and be like, Okay, there's something else going on,

2508
02:09:09,560 --> 02:09:12,320
Speaker 2: but you're hiding that with this anger, or you're hiding

2509
02:09:12,360 --> 02:09:15,000
Speaker 2: that with this yelling, or you're hiding that with this projection,

2510
02:09:15,440 --> 02:09:18,360
Speaker 2: or you're hiding that with this sadness to distract the

2511
02:09:18,600 --> 02:09:20,920
Speaker 2: fact that you don't want to face the problem. And

2512
02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:24,839
Speaker 2: I've come to what you were saying before all jokes aside.

2513
02:09:24,880 --> 02:09:27,400
Speaker 2: I feel like and it's not everybody. I feel like

2514
02:09:27,720 --> 02:09:30,760
Speaker 2: some reason why some people have big families is because

2515
02:09:31,160 --> 02:09:34,000
Speaker 2: they use their children and their mate as a distraction

2516
02:09:34,640 --> 02:09:38,200
Speaker 2: to not deal with their own lives. Because as long

2517
02:09:38,240 --> 02:09:41,080
Speaker 2: as they can have the excuse of, oh, I'm pouring

2518
02:09:41,080 --> 02:09:43,400
Speaker 2: into my kids, or I'm pouring into my mate, or

2519
02:09:43,400 --> 02:09:45,560
Speaker 2: I'm pouring into these other things, they never have to

2520
02:09:45,560 --> 02:09:50,120
Speaker 2: sit with the reality of let me get in my

2521
02:09:50,160 --> 02:09:51,800
Speaker 2: own thoughts. And the reason why I said is because

2522
02:09:51,840 --> 02:09:54,000
Speaker 2: as children grow up and leave and begin to do

2523
02:09:54,040 --> 02:09:56,680
Speaker 2: their own shit, all of a sudden, you're sitting there

2524
02:09:56,680 --> 02:09:59,920
Speaker 2: looking at your make significant other or having your family dynamic,

2525
02:10:00,480 --> 02:10:03,440
Speaker 2: and all that shit comes back up twenty thirty, forty

2526
02:10:03,480 --> 02:10:06,200
Speaker 2: fifty years later. You didn't resolve nothing, You just delayed it.

2527
02:10:06,760 --> 02:10:11,520
Speaker 1: The thing for me is like the process, Like I

2528
02:10:11,560 --> 02:10:14,560
Speaker 1: love how you talk about therapy helping them, because well,

2529
02:10:14,600 --> 02:10:16,640
Speaker 1: I think people hear and I'm sure some of them

2530
02:10:16,680 --> 02:10:19,520
Speaker 1: heard it today even though it's not something that he said.

2531
02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:23,200
Speaker 1: What people here is like, y'all mad over a joke,

2532
02:10:23,440 --> 02:10:26,040
Speaker 1: Damn bitch, you know, like that's what they're hearing. But

2533
02:10:26,160 --> 02:10:30,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I understand finding that joke distasteful

2534
02:10:30,960 --> 02:10:34,400
Speaker 1: and possibly even offensive or to not even be a joke,

2535
02:10:34,520 --> 02:10:38,400
Speaker 1: that maybe he really did do that shit, I understand

2536
02:10:38,440 --> 02:10:42,360
Speaker 1: the anger that comes from that. Then you find out

2537
02:10:42,600 --> 02:10:48,000
Speaker 1: context it happened in twenty fourteen. Okay, well, twenty fourteen

2538
02:10:48,040 --> 02:10:50,520
Speaker 1: seems like the time to be the most upset about it.

2539
02:10:50,520 --> 02:10:56,120
Speaker 1: It is nine years later. Nobody else came forward. Nobody

2540
02:10:56,120 --> 02:10:58,200
Speaker 1: came for it. Actually, not even one person came forward,

2541
02:10:58,680 --> 02:11:03,240
Speaker 1: like even though some like he does this. Okay, he

2542
02:11:03,320 --> 02:11:07,560
Speaker 1: apologized for it. Okay, not a funny joke, dude, bro

2543
02:11:07,920 --> 02:11:12,760
Speaker 1: cringe apology, but still so at this, you know, And

2544
02:11:12,840 --> 02:11:16,280
Speaker 1: then we now want to step to the next segment,

2545
02:11:16,400 --> 02:11:21,360
Speaker 1: which is and now we need to destroy this product.

2546
02:11:21,440 --> 02:11:26,360
Speaker 1: And the people who made it just tangentially because he

2547
02:11:26,480 --> 02:11:29,080
Speaker 1: was in it, because they know him in real life,

2548
02:11:29,080 --> 02:11:30,879
Speaker 1: and our friends with him and are not as disgusted

2549
02:11:30,920 --> 02:11:32,680
Speaker 1: as those of us who just found out about twenty

2550
02:11:32,720 --> 02:11:36,400
Speaker 1: fourteen comments and a two minute clip on Twitter. Those

2551
02:11:36,440 --> 02:11:40,080
Speaker 1: are the Those are the questions. Those are the moments

2552
02:11:40,120 --> 02:11:43,320
Speaker 1: when you start to go, wait, I'm with you on

2553
02:11:43,480 --> 02:11:45,280
Speaker 1: a the joke.

2554
02:11:45,320 --> 02:11:45,720
Speaker 2: I don't like.

2555
02:11:45,800 --> 02:11:48,560
Speaker 1: The joke is at least it's very distasteful, and it

2556
02:11:48,600 --> 02:11:54,120
Speaker 1: does make me suspicions of him nine years later, he

2557
02:11:54,200 --> 02:11:56,960
Speaker 1: can't be the seventh build person on the TV show

2558
02:11:57,120 --> 02:11:59,480
Speaker 1: or else the first two people, Build and the creator

2559
02:12:00,320 --> 02:12:04,000
Speaker 1: are trash. I'm sorry, I actually don't agree with that.

2560
02:12:04,560 --> 02:12:08,200
Speaker 1: I actually do think that's too far, And I'm fine,

2561
02:12:08,240 --> 02:12:11,320
Speaker 1: and I don't feel like I'm a bad personal need

2562
02:12:11,320 --> 02:12:13,120
Speaker 1: to prove to you that I'm a good person in

2563
02:12:13,160 --> 02:12:16,480
Speaker 1: any way. It doesn't really say much about me either way,

2564
02:12:16,520 --> 02:12:19,880
Speaker 1: because I didn't do any of this shit, So it's

2565
02:12:20,000 --> 02:12:22,880
Speaker 1: crazy enjoying it, watching it or not watching it has

2566
02:12:22,960 --> 02:12:26,360
Speaker 1: no reflection on me or you. To me. The need

2567
02:12:26,400 --> 02:12:30,400
Speaker 1: for the community around the aggregate, around the agreements of it,

2568
02:12:31,160 --> 02:12:35,320
Speaker 1: that says more about it about you to me. That's

2569
02:12:35,360 --> 02:12:37,600
Speaker 1: the part that makes it go huh. And I love

2570
02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:39,760
Speaker 1: that people are doing the work and going I don't

2571
02:12:39,760 --> 02:12:41,800
Speaker 1: need that. And there's a whole shit ton of people

2572
02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:43,920
Speaker 1: that are gonna be doing this shit for years to

2573
02:12:43,920 --> 02:12:46,440
Speaker 1: come because we didn't now know how social media would

2574
02:12:46,480 --> 02:12:50,520
Speaker 1: affect us, and now therapists I'm sure in every office

2575
02:12:50,520 --> 02:12:53,680
Speaker 1: are dealing with the shit that we've seen and dealt

2576
02:12:53,680 --> 02:12:56,280
Speaker 1: with that we wouldn't have unless it was for social media.

2577
02:12:56,320 --> 02:12:57,480
Speaker 1: And I think that's good work to.

2578
02:12:57,440 --> 02:13:03,280
Speaker 2: Be doing, agreed. And it's also for me. One of

2579
02:13:03,280 --> 02:13:05,760
Speaker 2: the reasons why Roger brought it up, and the person

2580
02:13:05,760 --> 02:13:08,880
Speaker 2: that wrote the letter even guess what they started doing

2581
02:13:08,880 --> 02:13:11,920
Speaker 2: ship offline. I started going to see real friends like

2582
02:13:11,920 --> 02:13:13,600
Speaker 2: like like like like like it is a shot.

2583
02:13:13,800 --> 02:13:15,880
Speaker 1: I keep saying, every one of these stories, you're gonna

2584
02:13:15,880 --> 02:13:18,280
Speaker 1: see the same commonality as eventually it gets into a

2585
02:13:18,320 --> 02:13:23,280
Speaker 1: smaller social circle and pulling you towards offline. The online

2586
02:13:23,320 --> 02:13:25,800
Speaker 1: part of this is the part that's crazy. I'm sure

2587
02:13:25,840 --> 02:13:27,400
Speaker 1: people listening to on our show all the time that

2588
02:13:27,440 --> 02:13:30,040
Speaker 1: aren't on social media and they're like, why are they

2589
02:13:30,200 --> 02:13:32,000
Speaker 1: talking about this? Why are they obsessed with this? Why

2590
02:13:32,000 --> 02:13:33,840
Speaker 1: do they care about this? And it's like, cause I've

2591
02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:36,720
Speaker 1: been through it, and I wish there was a podcast

2592
02:13:36,720 --> 02:13:39,880
Speaker 1: that was talking like this that wasn't that wasn't some

2593
02:13:40,240 --> 02:13:43,280
Speaker 1: like opposite version of podcasts, which is, you know, the

2594
02:13:43,360 --> 02:13:46,640
Speaker 1: right wing version of this is the these fucking liberals

2595
02:13:46,680 --> 02:13:51,160
Speaker 1: and they're canceled. I'm not like that. I can understand

2596
02:13:51,160 --> 02:13:53,200
Speaker 1: the problem with the first joke and the and not

2597
02:13:53,240 --> 02:13:56,080
Speaker 1: agreeing with it, but I am like, hmm, when you're

2598
02:13:56,080 --> 02:13:57,800
Speaker 1: telling me to burn down the village and you're getting

2599
02:13:57,800 --> 02:14:01,120
Speaker 1: out the pitchforks, I think I can ask you, like why, Yeah,

2600
02:14:01,200 --> 02:14:04,800
Speaker 1: And if these reasons. And if that's offensive to you,

2601
02:14:04,840 --> 02:14:07,680
Speaker 1: maybe you should think about why, because you know what,

2602
02:14:07,680 --> 02:14:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm not offended by h Why because some people right

2603
02:14:10,200 --> 02:14:12,320
Speaker 1: in here all the time. Why how come y'all feel

2604
02:14:12,320 --> 02:14:13,240
Speaker 1: this way? Why about this?

2605
02:14:13,440 --> 02:14:13,680
Speaker 2: Can you?

2606
02:14:14,360 --> 02:14:17,840
Speaker 1: Yes? Because I actually have thought about it anyway.

2607
02:14:17,520 --> 02:14:19,600
Speaker 2: And people get offended when they haven't thought about it.

2608
02:14:19,640 --> 02:14:22,520
Speaker 2: And that's why that by the anger and that defense

2609
02:14:22,800 --> 02:14:27,960
Speaker 2: mechanism kind of springs up. And also the thing about

2610
02:14:27,960 --> 02:14:32,280
Speaker 2: it is, once you quote unquote begin to realize these things,

2611
02:14:32,320 --> 02:14:37,120
Speaker 2: you begin to move more of certain activities offline. All

2612
02:14:37,200 --> 02:14:40,120
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the online connections aren't as tight and

2613
02:14:40,200 --> 02:14:42,480
Speaker 2: aren't as closed. And I can't speak for nobody else,

2614
02:14:42,480 --> 02:14:45,760
Speaker 2: but it was an emotional shift and almost a relief sometimes,

2615
02:14:45,840 --> 02:14:47,960
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, then when you go back online,

2616
02:14:48,360 --> 02:14:50,240
Speaker 2: you have a different set of eyes and you view

2617
02:14:50,280 --> 02:14:53,800
Speaker 2: it differently. You're still on there, but you view it differently,

2618
02:14:53,840 --> 02:14:55,640
Speaker 2: and you see the traps, and you see the things

2619
02:14:55,680 --> 02:14:57,560
Speaker 2: that triggered you, and you see the things that made

2620
02:14:57,640 --> 02:14:59,520
Speaker 2: you do these things that you adjust your behavior.

2621
02:14:59,560 --> 02:15:04,840
Speaker 1: According John says, good morning, Alpha Ride and activist Karen Ride.

2622
02:15:04,920 --> 02:15:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm so here for your grievous aggregator serving preach. It

2623
02:15:08,040 --> 02:15:09,880
Speaker 1: is so true and you can see it everywhere. The

2624
02:15:09,920 --> 02:15:12,480
Speaker 1: focus of your discussion was on pretty and trivial stuff,

2625
02:15:12,480 --> 02:15:14,920
Speaker 1: but even when it's serious and important issues. The same

2626
02:15:14,920 --> 02:15:17,120
Speaker 1: addiction to constant outrage is really common in the world

2627
02:15:17,200 --> 02:15:19,880
Speaker 1: of activism. Finding a calling out injustice is righteous and

2628
02:15:19,920 --> 02:15:22,720
Speaker 1: gets you a lot of clout with other activists and organizers,

2629
02:15:22,720 --> 02:15:24,680
Speaker 1: so naturally it's very easy to fall into the same

2630
02:15:24,680 --> 02:15:26,720
Speaker 1: cycle where you're just on a never ending quest of

2631
02:15:26,720 --> 02:15:30,880
Speaker 1: sustained indignation. It's really addictive. It can really lead to

2632
02:15:30,920 --> 02:15:33,880
Speaker 1: some messy and unhealthy places, and not just for the individual.

2633
02:15:34,280 --> 02:15:36,760
Speaker 1: I would posit that this constant need to be outraged

2634
02:15:36,840 --> 02:15:40,360
Speaker 1: is something that Vladimir Putin recognized and weaponized with disinformation

2635
02:15:40,440 --> 02:15:43,440
Speaker 1: campaigns to help elect Trump and effectively get us to

2636
02:15:43,480 --> 02:15:46,480
Speaker 1: where we are today, because at the end of the day,

2637
02:15:46,600 --> 02:15:49,959
Speaker 1: it's the same psychological condition that fuels lynch mob behavior.

2638
02:15:50,280 --> 02:15:52,880
Speaker 1: The reason online doll pals happen so often is because

2639
02:15:52,880 --> 02:15:55,480
Speaker 1: they feel good, righteous and powerful, and there is a

2640
02:15:55,520 --> 02:15:58,720
Speaker 1: whole environment set up to reward everyone who joins in

2641
02:15:58,760 --> 02:16:04,000
Speaker 1: and sting tize anyone who doesn't. Yeah, I agree completely

2642
02:16:04,040 --> 02:16:06,240
Speaker 1: with that. I'm watching this. I finished watching this docu

2643
02:16:06,360 --> 02:16:09,320
Speaker 1: series in the first three episodes. I highly recommend it's

2644
02:16:09,320 --> 02:16:12,880
Speaker 1: called Web of Make Believes on Netflix. But if you

2645
02:16:12,960 --> 02:16:18,320
Speaker 1: really want to look into like online how online stuff

2646
02:16:18,520 --> 02:16:21,560
Speaker 1: and these tools has really warped us or allowed people

2647
02:16:21,560 --> 02:16:25,240
Speaker 1: to like manipulate and become different people and be cruel

2648
02:16:25,280 --> 02:16:29,200
Speaker 1: and be punitive and be all this stuff, you should

2649
02:16:29,200 --> 02:16:32,160
Speaker 1: look into it. And I think it's an easy watch

2650
02:16:32,200 --> 02:16:34,200
Speaker 1: for most people because it's all on the side of

2651
02:16:34,200 --> 02:16:36,800
Speaker 1: the stuff we already agree about, Like, you won't be

2652
02:16:36,920 --> 02:16:41,160
Speaker 1: challenged philosophically, but I would challenge you to think about

2653
02:16:41,560 --> 02:16:45,320
Speaker 1: even the people you agree with, and the tools like

2654
02:16:45,040 --> 02:16:48,000
Speaker 1: the like the tools of doxing somebody, even when it's

2655
02:16:48,040 --> 02:16:52,880
Speaker 1: our side, it's still doxing somebody, right, the tools of ostracization,

2656
02:16:53,680 --> 02:16:59,760
Speaker 1: the relationships people bill because they're damaged quote unquote and alone,

2657
02:17:00,400 --> 02:17:04,520
Speaker 1: and you know, dealing with psychological issues and stuff. All

2658
02:17:04,560 --> 02:17:07,480
Speaker 1: that stuff I think people should would be, you know,

2659
02:17:07,720 --> 02:17:11,760
Speaker 1: edified to see that docu series. On a related note,

2660
02:17:11,840 --> 02:17:14,480
Speaker 1: I just saw having to stumble across this article how

2661
02:17:14,480 --> 02:17:17,199
Speaker 1: to stop how to spot collective narcissism and social media

2662
02:17:17,240 --> 02:17:20,200
Speaker 1: posts yesterday. Anyway, it's one of the great ironies about

2663
02:17:20,200 --> 02:17:23,080
Speaker 1: all this is how these grievance aggregators seemed totally unaware

2664
02:17:23,200 --> 02:17:25,200
Speaker 1: that what they do is essentially no different. Cuck a

2665
02:17:25,240 --> 02:17:28,800
Speaker 1: crossing my nigga, right, is I mean this is a

2666
02:17:28,840 --> 02:17:31,200
Speaker 1: white person. I'm sorry, not my nigga, but you know

2667
02:17:31,240 --> 02:17:33,320
Speaker 1: what I mean, my person, my dude whatever?

2668
02:17:33,440 --> 02:17:37,160
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes. And that's

2669
02:17:37,160 --> 02:17:39,640
Speaker 2: the thing that they both of the opposite end. They

2670
02:17:39,680 --> 02:17:43,360
Speaker 2: are reflection of each other, and the extreme is the

2671
02:17:43,480 --> 02:17:46,280
Speaker 2: extreme on both ends. And when you try to tell

2672
02:17:46,360 --> 02:17:50,080
Speaker 2: somebody that you are literally no difference, they were like,

2673
02:17:50,240 --> 02:17:53,800
Speaker 2: I'm different, No, you're not. The action, the foundation of

2674
02:17:53,840 --> 02:17:55,959
Speaker 2: what you're doing is no different.

2675
02:17:56,480 --> 02:18:01,959
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like I said, we when it's other people, we

2676
02:18:02,480 --> 02:18:05,320
Speaker 1: see it, right, we just don't want to see it

2677
02:18:05,360 --> 02:18:08,400
Speaker 1: in our people. Man, I don't blame you, because who

2678
02:18:08,440 --> 02:18:11,080
Speaker 1: the fuck want to think about the people that they're

2679
02:18:11,120 --> 02:18:16,520
Speaker 1: consuming as Wait a minute, uh, motherfucker you. Every time

2680
02:18:16,560 --> 02:18:19,000
Speaker 1: I look at your feet, you got me mad about something.

2681
02:18:20,240 --> 02:18:23,160
Speaker 1: Am I being manipulated? Am I being used?

2682
02:18:23,560 --> 02:18:25,000
Speaker 2: Like? What does this means?

2683
02:18:25,040 --> 02:18:26,680
Speaker 1: Why the fuck? I don't want to think about it,

2684
02:18:26,680 --> 02:18:28,879
Speaker 1: because it also means I need to accept I can

2685
02:18:28,959 --> 02:18:31,760
Speaker 1: be used. I need to accept that I can be

2686
02:18:31,840 --> 02:18:35,800
Speaker 1: manipulated and have been, so I think those things are

2687
02:18:35,840 --> 02:18:39,080
Speaker 1: fucking hused, But you just don't see people really talk

2688
02:18:39,120 --> 02:18:39,560
Speaker 1: about it.

2689
02:18:39,680 --> 02:18:42,200
Speaker 2: Yes, and to pick it back on what you were saying,

2690
02:18:43,040 --> 02:18:46,560
Speaker 2: because once you admit that, you have to admit that

2691
02:18:46,600 --> 02:18:50,760
Speaker 2: you've been duped, which means you have to also admit

2692
02:18:50,840 --> 02:18:53,600
Speaker 2: that you're at fault, which means you also have to

2693
02:18:53,640 --> 02:18:57,160
Speaker 2: acknowledge the actions that you did. And for some people

2694
02:18:57,200 --> 02:19:00,000
Speaker 2: depend on situation, which means you also have to acknowledge

2695
02:19:00,240 --> 02:19:02,360
Speaker 2: for some people that have this thing, but it's harder

2696
02:19:02,440 --> 02:19:04,360
Speaker 2: and to forgive themselves, which means it's harder thing to

2697
02:19:04,400 --> 02:19:04,800
Speaker 2: move forward.

2698
02:19:04,879 --> 02:19:07,600
Speaker 1: Also, what we're really I think bigger than everything you

2699
02:19:07,760 --> 02:19:09,680
Speaker 1: just said, even though everything you just said is valid.

2700
02:19:10,200 --> 02:19:13,400
Speaker 1: The real thing but online is you're gonna lose your community.

2701
02:19:13,640 --> 02:19:15,800
Speaker 1: Yes you are, and most people are too scared. They

2702
02:19:15,959 --> 02:19:18,680
Speaker 1: too scared to lose their community. I've seen it happen.

2703
02:19:19,160 --> 02:19:21,960
Speaker 1: There are people I know who are fucked up that

2704
02:19:22,160 --> 02:19:26,560
Speaker 1: have large communities right the fuck now, and as people

2705
02:19:26,680 --> 02:19:29,160
Speaker 1: watch them be fucked up, they stay in the community.

2706
02:19:29,959 --> 02:19:32,360
Speaker 1: You know, they watch them be fucked up to other people,

2707
02:19:32,480 --> 02:19:35,640
Speaker 1: and yet they kick it with them because It's like, yeah,

2708
02:19:35,760 --> 02:19:38,120
Speaker 1: because at some point I would have to leave this

2709
02:19:38,520 --> 02:19:42,360
Speaker 1: and be like find more people, find their start over,

2710
02:19:42,600 --> 02:19:44,560
Speaker 1: and I just would rather stay with what I know.

2711
02:19:45,000 --> 02:19:47,000
Speaker 1: Does this person say some toxic shit every once in

2712
02:19:47,040 --> 02:19:47,720
Speaker 1: a while, Sure?

2713
02:19:48,040 --> 02:19:48,800
Speaker 2: Do they act up?

2714
02:19:48,879 --> 02:19:51,000
Speaker 1: Do they go off on people? Do they? Yeah? But

2715
02:19:51,160 --> 02:19:53,879
Speaker 1: not me yet, you know. And I think a lot

2716
02:19:53,920 --> 02:19:56,320
Speaker 1: of people are getting down like that because it's kind

2717
02:19:56,360 --> 02:19:59,840
Speaker 1: of like we never stopped being in junior high, you know, agreed.

2718
02:20:00,440 --> 02:20:02,440
Speaker 1: I'm only a couple episodes in the Beeper really loving

2719
02:20:02,480 --> 02:20:04,320
Speaker 1: it so far. But even in Swarm, though it wasn't

2720
02:20:04,320 --> 02:20:06,360
Speaker 1: as front and center as the focus, it felt like

2721
02:20:06,480 --> 02:20:09,000
Speaker 1: Dre's obsession was just as much about addiction to rage

2722
02:20:09,360 --> 02:20:12,480
Speaker 1: as it was about her parasocial relationship with Naja. It

2723
02:20:12,600 --> 02:20:13,160
Speaker 1: definitely was.

2724
02:20:13,720 --> 02:20:13,840
Speaker 2: Uh.

2725
02:20:15,200 --> 02:20:18,039
Speaker 1: I think Dre's entire thing was how fucked up her

2726
02:20:18,080 --> 02:20:23,680
Speaker 1: life was, and the obsession with Ninja and the obsession

2727
02:20:23,760 --> 02:20:27,879
Speaker 1: with finding people online that didn't that didn't like Naja

2728
02:20:27,920 --> 02:20:30,640
Speaker 1: and all that shit. All that stuff was like, I

2729
02:20:30,680 --> 02:20:32,720
Speaker 1: don't want to think about how I can't make the rent.

2730
02:20:32,760 --> 02:20:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to think about how I'm living in

2731
02:20:34,080 --> 02:20:37,000
Speaker 1: my car. She was down bad, you know, I don't

2732
02:20:37,000 --> 02:20:41,080
Speaker 1: want to think about, you know, the reception or lack

2733
02:20:41,120 --> 02:20:43,520
Speaker 1: of reception people had towards my sexuality. I don't want

2734
02:20:43,520 --> 02:20:45,880
Speaker 1: to think about being bullied as a kid. I don't

2735
02:20:45,879 --> 02:20:49,080
Speaker 1: want to think about this shit. So but I think

2736
02:20:49,120 --> 02:20:52,119
Speaker 1: about Nija and that makes me happy. So everything's gonna

2737
02:20:52,160 --> 02:20:55,040
Speaker 1: come about that. I hope for more closure or even

2738
02:20:55,440 --> 02:20:57,480
Speaker 1: a come up as for the end of finale episode,

2739
02:20:57,520 --> 02:20:59,320
Speaker 1: but I guess that's why Donald T's us with the

2740
02:20:59,720 --> 02:21:01,240
Speaker 1: Only God Makes Happy Endings.

2741
02:21:01,320 --> 02:21:01,560
Speaker 2: I e.

2742
02:21:01,879 --> 02:21:04,120
Speaker 1: I know you viewers all want to see Dre crush

2743
02:21:04,520 --> 02:21:06,400
Speaker 1: or have to come to Jesus moment, but nah, here's

2744
02:21:06,440 --> 02:21:09,200
Speaker 1: what you're getting lol. I actually think it was deeper

2745
02:21:09,240 --> 02:21:13,440
Speaker 1: than that. I think it is the we know she

2746
02:21:13,640 --> 02:21:16,119
Speaker 1: got just we know she was brought to justice because

2747
02:21:16,120 --> 02:21:19,160
Speaker 1: the episode before that, So the episode before that feels

2748
02:21:19,200 --> 02:21:22,240
Speaker 1: like a documentary, but the whole point of that documentary

2749
02:21:22,320 --> 02:21:25,000
Speaker 1: is to be like, she actually we know who she

2750
02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:28,000
Speaker 1: is because she got caught. Right. So then the next

2751
02:21:28,080 --> 02:21:32,720
Speaker 1: episode after that is I think when it says only

2752
02:21:32,840 --> 02:21:37,360
Speaker 1: God makes happy endings, it's Dre's happy ending because Naja

2753
02:21:37,520 --> 02:21:43,440
Speaker 1: is her God and that whole like ending that we're

2754
02:21:43,480 --> 02:21:48,440
Speaker 1: talking about without giving it too much of it. It's

2755
02:21:48,560 --> 02:21:51,959
Speaker 1: like a way that they could not clean and slim

2756
02:21:52,080 --> 02:21:53,880
Speaker 1: this shit, And I think that's why it was so

2757
02:21:54,879 --> 02:21:59,920
Speaker 1: god damn brilliant. Like that idea is something that is

2758
02:22:00,280 --> 02:22:03,879
Speaker 1: extremely hard to get around when you write a protagonist

2759
02:22:04,320 --> 02:22:08,480
Speaker 1: who is the karmic debt they have for doing terrible

2760
02:22:08,560 --> 02:22:12,640
Speaker 1: things needs to be paid, right, and here they go

2761
02:22:12,920 --> 02:22:17,320
Speaker 1: is like that happens off screen. Essentially, we never really

2762
02:22:17,360 --> 02:22:20,280
Speaker 1: see her really get arrested or any of that shit.

2763
02:22:20,440 --> 02:22:23,440
Speaker 1: We just kind of see her get her happy ending

2764
02:22:23,560 --> 02:22:26,680
Speaker 1: in her mind. And I think that was fucking brilliant.

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02:22:26,840 --> 02:22:30,040
Speaker 1: I think the yeah, I once again a show no

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02:22:30,120 --> 02:22:32,240
Speaker 1: one got to talk about because y'all rather talk about

2767
02:22:32,240 --> 02:22:34,760
Speaker 1: what you don't like, and now I gotta y'all want

2768
02:22:34,800 --> 02:22:38,960
Speaker 1: to spend time arguing about Donald Glover or not Donald

2769
02:22:38,959 --> 02:22:41,440
Speaker 1: Glover and erasing the work of the black women that

2770
02:22:41,760 --> 02:22:44,840
Speaker 1: made the show work and wrote all the shit. Y'all

2771
02:22:45,000 --> 02:22:47,480
Speaker 1: rather do that shit than be like, let's I would

2772
02:22:47,560 --> 02:22:49,520
Speaker 1: like to engage with this art, and so I don't

2773
02:22:49,560 --> 02:22:53,640
Speaker 1: find it worthwhile even discussing right. Always love with Mike

2774
02:22:53,720 --> 02:22:55,560
Speaker 1: Caplin joints the show. He's so funny. It brings great

2775
02:22:55,600 --> 02:22:58,440
Speaker 1: insights into mindfulness he could make serious bank if you

2776
02:22:58,480 --> 02:23:00,560
Speaker 1: ever decided to start a cold for hip white people.

2777
02:23:00,640 --> 02:23:01,920
Speaker 1: He hell, I probably joined.

2778
02:23:02,440 --> 02:23:03,160
Speaker 2: He probably could.

2779
02:23:06,000 --> 02:23:07,600
Speaker 1: Shouldn't have shaved down his beard if you want to

2780
02:23:07,680 --> 02:23:08,920
Speaker 1: make that Colt money.

2781
02:23:09,560 --> 02:23:09,800
Speaker 2: Rod.

2782
02:23:09,879 --> 02:23:12,360
Speaker 1: I know there was a stiff competition for your February calendar,

2783
02:23:12,400 --> 02:23:14,640
Speaker 1: but damn Clarence Thomas seemed like he's just miles ahead

2784
02:23:14,640 --> 02:23:17,320
Speaker 1: everyone else. Well, that's why he was the last. That's

2785
02:23:17,360 --> 02:23:19,640
Speaker 1: why he was the last one for the for February.

2786
02:23:20,360 --> 02:23:22,200
Speaker 1: Like every time you think he can't get any worse,

2787
02:23:22,240 --> 02:23:26,240
Speaker 1: he just like hold my Nazi Memberbellia. I wondered, do

2788
02:23:26,360 --> 02:23:28,840
Speaker 1: Jason Whitlock and the rest all have Michael Jordan style

2789
02:23:28,920 --> 02:23:32,800
Speaker 1: posts of Clarence on their wall? That's what's five too,

2790
02:23:33,080 --> 02:23:34,760
Speaker 1: when that's the problem. None of these people would ever

2791
02:23:34,800 --> 02:23:38,200
Speaker 1: have black people on their walls as arts. So dude

2792
02:23:38,280 --> 02:23:41,560
Speaker 1: is something else. At least he's crushing the black capitalist game. PS.

2793
02:23:41,720 --> 02:23:45,279
Speaker 1: The best part about Karen Sutton burst in volume windows

2794
02:23:45,360 --> 02:23:47,840
Speaker 1: involved the N word and I have to suddenly, frankly

2795
02:23:47,879 --> 02:23:50,119
Speaker 1: try and roll my windows up before my mostly black

2796
02:23:50,120 --> 02:23:53,760
Speaker 1: and Latino neighbors get the wrong guydea. It always keeps

2797
02:23:53,800 --> 02:23:55,760
Speaker 1: me on my toes cheers stay safe, john Oh you

2798
02:23:55,840 --> 02:23:56,640
Speaker 1: living dangerous.

2799
02:23:57,959 --> 02:23:59,440
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to get you hurt.

2800
02:23:59,480 --> 02:24:04,160
Speaker 1: Baby, Yeah, living dangerous over there. Oh, somebody just send

2801
02:24:04,200 --> 02:24:07,160
Speaker 1: in a YouTube comment. So this is now the last thing.

2802
02:24:07,879 --> 02:24:10,320
Speaker 1: John Wick took me the fuck out of here, having

2803
02:24:10,360 --> 02:24:13,480
Speaker 1: me spilling my romin out seriously. Also having a volunteer

2804
02:24:13,480 --> 02:24:15,640
Speaker 1: in a wild animal rescue facility and had to grab

2805
02:24:15,680 --> 02:24:18,680
Speaker 1: a few apossums up just like that had gloves by

2806
02:24:18,800 --> 02:24:22,039
Speaker 1: nature of the work. But just wash hands very well

2807
02:24:22,120 --> 02:24:25,840
Speaker 1: if you didn't. If you don't, like she didn't. Tail

2808
02:24:25,879 --> 02:24:29,120
Speaker 1: holding doesn't hurt them. The tails are made for the

2809
02:24:30,160 --> 02:24:32,080
Speaker 1: They love to hisits and ground like their fierce, but

2810
02:24:32,200 --> 02:24:34,000
Speaker 1: it's the show that they mostly just want to be

2811
02:24:34,080 --> 02:24:37,600
Speaker 1: left alone and most often run away. The babies are

2812
02:24:37,680 --> 02:24:41,400
Speaker 1: kind of ugly, the ugly, kind of adorable. Fun fact

2813
02:24:41,480 --> 02:24:44,840
Speaker 1: I learned while volunteering is that they don't carry rabies

2814
02:24:44,920 --> 02:24:46,960
Speaker 1: as their internal body temperature is too low for the

2815
02:24:47,040 --> 02:24:50,400
Speaker 1: rogs to survive, and they eat mosquito eggs and larvae,

2816
02:24:50,560 --> 02:24:53,879
Speaker 1: helping the control the buzz population. Ugly but useful. Critics

2817
02:24:53,920 --> 02:24:56,160
Speaker 1: they are, thank you, Carrie Moon, thank you.

2818
02:24:56,240 --> 02:24:56,840
Speaker 2: I did not know that.

2819
02:24:57,280 --> 02:25:01,120
Speaker 1: And that's it, guys, that's the whole show. I appreciate

2820
02:25:01,200 --> 02:25:04,000
Speaker 1: everybody for coming through a lot of talking. Yeah, it

2821
02:25:04,120 --> 02:25:07,200
Speaker 1: was an old school feedback with a very long one

2822
02:25:07,280 --> 02:25:08,760
Speaker 1: that a lot of people are gonna skip, but they're

2823
02:25:08,760 --> 02:25:11,880
Speaker 1: gonna miss a lot of good conversations and thoughts and uh,

2824
02:25:12,440 --> 02:25:14,880
Speaker 1: a lot of motherfuckers, honest to God, like not to

2825
02:25:14,959 --> 02:25:16,880
Speaker 1: tuote our horns. A lot of your motherfuckers need to

2826
02:25:16,920 --> 02:25:20,240
Speaker 1: hear that ship. And that's the sad part. The people

2827
02:25:20,280 --> 02:25:21,880
Speaker 1: that need to hear this ship will never hear it.

2828
02:25:22,680 --> 02:25:24,520
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying you just need to listen to

2829
02:25:24,600 --> 02:25:26,080
Speaker 1: what we say and do what we tell you. I'm

2830
02:25:26,120 --> 02:25:29,000
Speaker 1: saying you need to think about this shit. You don't

2831
02:25:29,000 --> 02:25:32,280
Speaker 1: have to land where we land. But the lack of

2832
02:25:32,440 --> 02:25:37,320
Speaker 1: thought and the instant reaction to everything is fucking if

2833
02:25:37,360 --> 02:25:40,360
Speaker 1: you don't, if you can't see how it's destroying you,

2834
02:25:41,360 --> 02:25:44,080
Speaker 1: how it's harmful, and it's been years of it and

2835
02:25:44,160 --> 02:25:47,879
Speaker 1: it's unending. Man, I really feel bad for you because

2836
02:25:48,160 --> 02:25:50,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna have a cost at some point, and you

2837
02:25:51,040 --> 02:25:54,520
Speaker 1: don't have to always be carrying the fucking sword for everybody.

2838
02:25:55,160 --> 02:25:55,320
Speaker 2: You know.

2839
02:25:55,520 --> 02:26:00,120
Speaker 1: I've seen y'all' the angriest people online. I've seen the

2840
02:26:00,160 --> 02:26:03,480
Speaker 1: stuff they share about their real lives, and no wonder, nigga,

2841
02:26:04,320 --> 02:26:07,640
Speaker 1: it's not rocket science. We're not you know, we're not

2842
02:26:07,760 --> 02:26:11,040
Speaker 1: all that unique, guys. Human beings are almost like robots.

2843
02:26:11,200 --> 02:26:13,320
Speaker 1: If some shit is going wrong, it's a reason now

2844
02:26:13,440 --> 02:26:17,160
Speaker 1: you need to be canceling the next celebrity because you

2845
02:26:17,200 --> 02:26:20,520
Speaker 1: don't want to think about, you know, the rent, or

2846
02:26:20,560 --> 02:26:24,480
Speaker 1: you don't want to think about the job or the relationship.

2847
02:26:24,600 --> 02:26:29,600
Speaker 1: Y'all know what it is. So anyway, man, appreciate y'all

2848
02:26:29,840 --> 02:26:32,360
Speaker 1: and we'll be back with you soon. It's gonna be

2849
02:26:32,400 --> 02:26:35,279
Speaker 1: a really busy week for me the next couple of weeks,

2850
02:26:36,640 --> 02:26:39,200
Speaker 1: so some we may or may not get to the

2851
02:26:39,280 --> 02:26:41,480
Speaker 1: five shows a week. We'll see until then.

2852
02:26:41,600 --> 02:26:42,000
Speaker 2: I love you.

2853
02:26:42,840 --> 02:26:43,040
Speaker 1: Why