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Speaker 1: And Mark Schleras will be doing the Raiders commander's game,

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Speaker 1: so you know he's watching the Raiders tonight. He's joining

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Speaker 1: us live. Before we get into that, I'm brutal Denver

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Speaker 1: loss there is. We have never had more sharp young

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Speaker 1: offensive coaches. Mark, and a lot of these offensive coaches

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Speaker 1: they come from the Kyle Shanahan tree, which is structure

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Speaker 1: and timing, and I don't know, I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: what Caleb is. Is it just possible this is a

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Speaker 1: bad fit. I don't know about bad fit, Colin. I

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Speaker 1: will tell you this.

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Speaker 3: So one of the things that I struggle with when

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Speaker 3: I was watching Caleb Williams coming out of USC is

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Speaker 3: how many times he turned down a wide open throw

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Speaker 3: to go make something better happened? And I think one

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Speaker 3: thing about the National Football League is boring is the

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Speaker 3: way you win. Being on time, being on schedule is

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Speaker 3: the way you win. But when historically you've been rewarded,

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Speaker 3: you've been praised, you've had accolades, you've had all these things,

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Speaker 3: you know, generational talent because every time you break out

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Speaker 3: of the pocket, every time you scramble around. When you're

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Speaker 3: in college, you have better athletes. You're a better athlete

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Speaker 3: than the rest of the guys. You make big time plays.

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Speaker 3: That's not how the NFL works. When he was on schedule,

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Speaker 3: when they were scripting plays in that first half, he

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Speaker 3: was fourteen of nineteen. He ended up nineteen of thirty. Right, So,

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you get off track, you get

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Speaker 3: off schedule, you try to make something big happen, and

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Speaker 3: that's when bad things happen to you. So he's shown

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Speaker 3: that he can do it. It's just when they get

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Speaker 3: longer on that, and the defense of justs can you

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Speaker 4: Can you get out of your own head?

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Speaker 3: Hey, when I have to make a play, you know,

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I've got to go scramble around.

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Speaker 3: I've got to do something special that he's got to

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Speaker 3: get over that. He's got to be on schedule. He's

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Speaker 4: And hunting is okay. And so those are things that

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Speaker 3: But when your whole career and your whole life, you've

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Speaker 4: As a quarterback, your.

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Speaker 3: Reaction has to be from the neck up, not from

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Speaker 3: the neck down. It can't be Hey, I'm a better

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Speaker 3: You've got to think your way through that. And you've

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Speaker 3: Those are the things that he's going to have to

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Speaker 1: So people didn't watch the Denver game. Three big mistakes

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Speaker 1: thought Bonnix played much better but had a really rough

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Speaker 1: them to win their division. They have been really sloppy defensively.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones ate them apart now, I think the Colts

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Speaker 1: have better personnel than people give them credit for. Warren,

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Speaker 1: But how is it playing. I mean, you're very popular

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Speaker 1: Is it too early to be concerned?

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Speaker 3: I mean, ultimately, you know, it doesn't really matter who

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Speaker 4: You know, who your receivers are doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 3: As Joe Burrow, If you can't dominate the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 3: Indianapolis Colts absolutely dominated the line of scrimmage. The one

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Speaker 3: When you're playing second down and five on every play

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Speaker 3: great the quick game was awesome. Their crossing routes were great.

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Speaker 3: And that pass rush was never was never allowed to

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Speaker 3: the NFL. You earn the right to rush the passer

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Speaker 4: They couldn't defend the run. They never got into their

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Speaker 3: They had one sack over the course, it was a

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Speaker 3: they never sniffed Daniel Jones throughout the rest of the day.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it was sloppy. Offensively, Boonix looked a lot better,

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Speaker 3: and that elite level defense got pushed around last day yesterday.

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Speaker 1: So you had several surgeries. I said, I don't know

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Speaker 1: who Dak Prescott surgeon was, but he looks reborn.

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Speaker 1: They asked him to throw fifty two times against a

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Speaker 1: into confidence, and I don't know what I mean. Dak's

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Speaker 1: offseason must have been profound. I am shocked by how

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Speaker 1: Are you at all surprised by Dak and this Dallas offense?

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Speaker 3: And no, listen, I've been a guy that has been

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Speaker 4: I think he's.

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Speaker 3: Got this old soul about him with you one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: He is moving.

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Speaker 3: He has been on target. Remember, man, he was completely

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Speaker 3: So I think the guy has been amazing. Fifty two attempts.

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Speaker 3: And I thought what was really cool when the game

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Speaker 4: Ye man, he went out and found himself ceedee lamb.

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Speaker 4: He got some big plays from him.

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Speaker 3: And then George Pickens is such a threat over the

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Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer and that staff get the ball to pickings underneath.

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Speaker 3: You know you're so worried about him, beat you over

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Speaker 3: the top and Dak Prescott operating that offense.

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Speaker 4: Now, defensively, they got to clean some stuff up, right.

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Speaker 4: You just can't give.

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Speaker 3: Up a big play after big play and not cover guys.

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Speaker 4: But offensively, what a game.

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Speaker 3: And how about their kicker sixty four yards to tie

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Speaker 4: That's just ridiculous. It's not fair, it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: So I'm watching Phililadelphia and I said this, what Nothing

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Speaker 1: we've got seventeen games. The Steelers have the second oldest

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Speaker 1: off the field, you got to pick up first downs. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers don't. They're like thirtieth in time of possession,

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Speaker 1: they're twenty ninth or thirtieth in yards per rush. So

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Speaker 1: it's an old defense and they're on the field too much.

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Speaker 1: So when I watched Philadelphia, I don't know if their

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Speaker 1: you were going to wear people down in the second half.

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Speaker 1: That game was ten ten at half, and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is Philadelphia. This is built for Philadelphia. In Kansas

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Speaker 1: City has no run game. And I want you to

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Speaker 1: we got the better on line, we got the better

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, number one, you're going to bail

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Speaker 3: because playing defense, frankly, is harder than playing offense when

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Speaker 3: it comes to the energy that you expend. I mean,

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Speaker 4: As a defense, you got to chase it. You know

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Speaker 4: what I do. I go to where we're gonna huddle.

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Speaker 4: I just watch. I don't give a rip. And so

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Speaker 4: it is. It takes more effort to play on that

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Speaker 3: So the more you can control the temple, the more

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Speaker 3: other thing that ends up happening is you have the ability,

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Speaker 3: if you can do that, to eliminate the pass rush

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Speaker 3: is no fourth quarter pass rush, and you win. Bill Wallash,

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Speaker 3: the National Football League is rushing the quarterback in the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter. Being able to put that rush on. Well,

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Speaker 3: if you're worn out from trying to defend the run,

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Speaker 3: there's no way you can do that. And I always

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Speaker 3: they get nineteen yards, man, they're really running the ball.

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Speaker 4: That's not running the ball right.

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Speaker 3: That's tricking people running the ball is getting in the

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Speaker 3: the safety's heels are at eight yards. So you're facing

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Speaker 3: get four or five yards of carry when it's third

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Speaker 3: you're going to run it, and you've got to kill

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Speaker 3: the clock and forman an offense. Can you get that done?

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Speaker 3: That to me is what running the ball is. I

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Speaker 3: always look at not yards per care, but how many

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Speaker 4: This was Patrick Mahomes. That was it.

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Speaker 3: The running backs didn't do anything, you know for a

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm big with you on that running game

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Speaker 3: and what it does for you as an overall football team,

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Speaker 3: your mentality, what it does for your defense, and how

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Speaker 3: do that as showed Burrow, if you'd like to get

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting about Burrow is they don't have

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Speaker 3: Because that's the offense that you've asked him to create,

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Speaker 4: Okay, do it?

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Speaker 3: And I don't agree with that philosophy of football.

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Speaker 1: Mark Slarra that Denver loss. I'm not going to say

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Speaker 2: It was, it was.

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Speaker 5: It was good seeing your mark.

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Speaker 4: As always, I forget you, buddy. Take care.

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Speaker 5: He's got the Commanders and the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know if you guys noticed j mac

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Speaker 1: about Lincoln Riley and you have questions, Jordan Mayava, that

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so we're counting the win over Perdue that counts.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know about Purdue, but their

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Speaker 7: I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 1: And Lincoln Riley has taken a quarterback from UNLV who

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Speaker 7: Can you just I know you've committed the schedule to memory,

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Speaker 7: So can you tell me when their schedule really starts?

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Speaker 1: When they play the most the very explosive Michigan State

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Speaker 1: Most under ratted team in the country, Illinois in the

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Speaker 7: That's a game. Now are you going to that?

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Speaker 5: Do you find miss absolutely going?

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Speaker 1: I've got my USC red Trojan shoes, very excited.

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Speaker 7: I saw those on the on social media. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: Know, by the way they snuck into the rankings at

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Speaker 7: Yeah, everybody loves Notre Dame. They're they're owing to in

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Speaker 1: It's amazing and that Jmack with the News, No, no,

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Speaker 2: The herd Line News.

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Speaker 7: Right, it's time to talk about those putred Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 1: I got to play call in, but I need to

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Speaker 5: So we're to win games.

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Speaker 1: You have to win the game, not lose the game, honestly,

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Speaker 5: That is how you lose the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that proficient and prophetic. It was an interesting game

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Speaker 7: Mike McDaniel looks like a government employee who lost his

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Speaker 1: No, we agree, there's a lot of things that aren't working,

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Speaker 7: McDaniel's saying, I was frustrated with the communication. The whole

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Speaker 7: Why uh debt was that today?

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Speaker 7: This was apparently after the game. He was disappointed. Like

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Speaker 7: communication wasn't up to standard. GM is gonna throw the

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Speaker 7: It's basically every man for himself at this point in Miami.

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Speaker 7: Those are fun to watch, so we'll enjoy that. Next

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Speaker 7: up is the Jags. Collin This is kind of an

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Speaker 7: interesting one. Okay, we watch on screen here. Liam Cohen

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Speaker 7: very upset that Trevor Lawrence would sail to pass high

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Speaker 7: was like, all right, settle down.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 7: I don't think this is a huge deal, but the

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Speaker 8: That was just one throw. I was pissed. You know,

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Speaker 8: it is what it is. You know, it's not that's emotion,

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Speaker 8: it's not personal. Ever, we can win with him playing

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Speaker 4: You know, whether it's whose fault?

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Speaker 2: Is it my fall?

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Speaker 4: Was it an Aaron throw? Was it a miss block? Right?

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Speaker 8: Who knows what that looks like. But I was very

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Speaker 1: Today some people are complaining that Brian Thomas, the receiver

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Speaker 4: What is he doing?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 5: Drop brutal draw?

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Speaker 7: It was yesterday.

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Speaker 5: So again touchdown dropped and.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know, could could have been a play that

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Speaker 1: I'm not blaming Trevor Lawrence for yesterday.

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Speaker 7: One hundred percent agree. Again, this is like people who

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Speaker 7: are box score watching? Just a reminder, Jags are up

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Speaker 5: Yeah, with like four minutes.

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Speaker 7: Less, Okay, you could kick and go up six. I

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Speaker 7: and they and they couldn't get it. Disappointing and then

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Speaker 7: you know, Browning takes it to the the field. Let's

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Speaker 7: I'm like, I know he had the end of the

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Speaker 7: mean that wins the game. It was a dicey call.

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Speaker 7: I'm not stelling my Liam Cohen stock. You guys can sell.

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Speaker 7: I'm sticking with this guy. I think he's a winner.

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Speaker 1: Colin, second week in a row. The one o'clock window

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Speaker 7: All right, final story, Colin, I want to save some

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Speaker 7: room for this. I'm obsessed with this. So LSU beats

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Speaker 7: Florida twenty to ten. LS you did not look good.

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Speaker 7: Their MVP was basically the punter. But afterward the press

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Speaker 5: This is classic.

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Speaker 7: Listen, take a listen, you.

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Speaker 9: Micro you're looking at this from the wrong perspective. LSU

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Speaker 9: won the football game, won the game. I don't know

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Speaker 9: what you want from me. What do you want? You

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Speaker 9: wants to win seven nothing against Florida to keep you happy.

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Speaker 9: There's some ridiculous questions and I'm getting tired of it.

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Speaker 9: That football team just work their tail off to get

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Speaker 9: an SEC win. And you want to know what's wrong.

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Speaker 9: You know what, You're spoiled. You're spoiled.

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Speaker 1: Well, not ideal, although the players probably love it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the SEC and welcome to the media. I

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Speaker 1: would say his players love that support. I mean LSU

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Speaker 1: beat Clemson that does not look as impressive now and

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Speaker 1: Florida's not very good. So what they're doing is they're

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Speaker 1: they're kind of narrowly beating teams that are not very good.

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Speaker 5: But that's the SEC.

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Speaker 1: And I think now, I do think college teams have

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Speaker 1: a right to get better. We know in the NFL

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Speaker 1: that teams get better. I mean Bill Belichick during the dynasty,

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Speaker 1: New England wasn't a dominating September team and college.

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Speaker 5: Team get better. So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I LSU is a good football team. They're not an

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Speaker 1: undefeated football team eventually, but they've got a pro quarterback,

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Speaker 1: a more than capable coach. And also, you know, Florida

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Speaker 1: had just lost a game, this was embarrassing, So Florida

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Speaker 1: is probably going into that game with absolute urgency and

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Speaker 1: defending themselves, the pride of the program, the pride of Gainesville.

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Speaker 1: So you're probably got an incredib bad throw by Nessmar terribly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you're probably getting an inspired effort by a team

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Speaker 1: that just got humiliated. And those are the worst kind

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Speaker 1: of teams to play. So it's not apples to apples.

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Speaker 1: But the Eagles had what two hundred and fifteen yards.

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Speaker 7: Of offense in Kansas City. Imagine if the first question

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Speaker 7: Jalen hurt Scott was like, hey, you threw for one

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Speaker 7: hundred yards? What's wrong with the offense? Jalen Hurts would

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Speaker 7: have calmly been like, we got to win, that's what matters.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 7: Brian Kelly is like what what stop it?

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Speaker 5: What's right? You know?

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Speaker 7: And I kind of like that that emotion there.

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Speaker 1: Coaches to a fault, you know, the richest paid state employee. Yes,

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Speaker 1: tend to be very tribal and very provincial and very protective.

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Speaker 1: Whereas and I've always given Jalen Hurts and Dak the

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Speaker 1: complement of when those guys step at the podium, no

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Speaker 1: matter how dumb the question, Dak or Jalen Hurts handle it.

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Speaker 1: Some of these college coaches are so wound up and

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Speaker 1: it's such a pressure cooker, especially in the SEC, they

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Speaker 1: just lose their mind when.

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Speaker 5: A reporter goes after him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've already seen Sark get worked up at

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Speaker 1: the podium and Brian Kelly get worked up at the podium.

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Speaker 1: And that's the reality. There's a ton of pressure. You know,

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Speaker 1: the player graduates and move on. Yeah, the coach has

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Speaker 1: to deal with boosters and the ad and the fans

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Speaker 1: and talk radio. So these college football coaches get worked

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Speaker 1: up very quickly.

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Speaker 7: And your great point, he has the run of the

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Speaker 7: state right now. Nobody can question Brian Kelly. Now they

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Speaker 7: have Southeast Louisiana next, that's a dub. But then they

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Speaker 7: go to Ole Miss. That's a big one against your guy.

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Speaker 7: Lane Kiffin. I'm very If they lose that, it's gonna

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Speaker 7: be open season on Brian Kelly. If he wins that,

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Speaker 7: you know he's going to be like, hey, what's up.

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Speaker 5: We took down lane Kiffin.

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Speaker 7: What do you want from me? Now?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 7: Like, so this schedule is a gauntlet. Okay, the Texas

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Speaker 7: A and M, Alabama, Oklahoma. I mean they got some

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Speaker 7: brutal game. Vanderbilt is no pushover. I know you're up

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Speaker 7: on Vanderbilt. No vanderdil this year. Vanderdort can play A

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Speaker 7: and M's tough. Alabama now seems to have their act together.

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Speaker 7: They're not winning a ten or eleven games with the schedule.

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Speaker 1: There's just no your data, typical SEC schedule at Ole

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Speaker 1: Miss at Vandy, at Bama at Old Olaha, Oklahoma. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma's good. Oklahoma's defense juniors and seniors, and they have

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. So by the way, Lincoln Riley and Brent

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Speaker 1: Venables seem to have righted the ship a little bit.

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Speaker 1: One's got their offense humming and the defensive guy and

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma's got his defense humming. So it looks like they

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Speaker 1: both took a couple of years. And if you watched

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma and USC. They do look more stabilized with very

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Speaker 1: good quarterback.

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Speaker 7: And I know some people in this building who are

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Speaker 7: happy you just brought this back to USC to close

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Speaker 7: the segment. Trojins, Hey, how about them?

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Speaker 5: Very interesting?

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Speaker 1: No, I mean Oklahoma and USC a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: we didn't know if they had the right coach.

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Speaker 4: That's good.

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Speaker 1: But I think USC's offense and Oklahoma's defense, you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that works, that plays those are potential playoff teams, saying

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Speaker 1: they're getting there. I don't think we'll see what Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame is. I looked at that as an l for

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Speaker 1: the Trojans in South Bend. We'll just wait and see,

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Speaker 1: wait and see what happened.

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Speaker 5: Jmck with a new.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping back the

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Speaker 2: Herd Line news.

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Speaker 1: The star quarterback in the NFL not Joe Burrow, but

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Speaker 1: a star quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Couldn't miss Next week. We'll give you an update in that.

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Speaker 2: Next be sure to catch live editions of The Herd

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Speaker 2: weekdays in neon eastern nin am Pacific on Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: All Right, the Washington Commanders their Sunday game against the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Raiders plays that out against the rival Chargers Division game.

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Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels may not play. It's got a knee injury.

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Speaker 1: Status is up in the air, not serious, but Jaden

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Speaker 1: Daniels may not play. Now, there were Jmack, there were

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Speaker 1: rumors last week people were saying he was limping, he

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Speaker 1: looked something was off. Well, now it's been validated that

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Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels is not one hundred percent. So the big

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Speaker 1: concernment he had when he came into the league was

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Speaker 1: not that he didn't have the maturity or accuracy or

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Speaker 1: ability to move. The big concern was he is kind

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Speaker 1: of thin, kind of a Teddy Bridgewater build, and people

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Speaker 1: worried about his durability in the NFL. So he got

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Speaker 1: banged up a little bit last year, he got banged up.

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Speaker 1: This year he's fine. My guess is he probably plays

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Speaker 1: the other one. We're at Week three and next week

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Speaker 1: Jake browning back up to Joe Burrow will play against

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz back up to JJ McCarthy. So reportedly today

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy has been ruled out for Sunday's game against

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Speaker 1: the Bengals due to an ankle injury. AJ McCarthy who

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Speaker 1: got injured last year, right, remember it couldn't play last

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Speaker 1: year because of an injury. He is now in week three,

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Speaker 1: injured again, and he's getting popped. And one of the

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Speaker 1: knocks on McCarthy I think through two weeks is he

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Speaker 1: holds the ball too long. So j Night again, what

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Speaker 1: is injury prone? I think it's fair to say Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow may have to change his style a bit. He's

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Speaker 1: injury prone. Justin Fields banged up again, he may have

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Speaker 1: to change his style. So JJ McCarthy now has a

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Speaker 1: serious injury, could not play last year. We're in week three,

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Speaker 1: can't play again. So it's something I said before Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold came into this league. Sam held the ball too long.

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Speaker 1: H too often ran into traffic, he got banged up.

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert first two years in the league was putting

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Speaker 1: a shoulder down and going in the linebackers.

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Speaker 5: You can't do that. So I'm not blaming anybody.

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Speaker 1: But Week three Vikings Bengals is a backup quarterback game already.

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Speaker 7: And Colin it's a great point. This is why gms

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Speaker 7: and coaches want their quarterbacks to win from the pocket.

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Speaker 7: We don't want you're running. A lot of bad things

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Speaker 7: could happen when you're on the run. The problem is

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Speaker 7: Burrow got hurt in the pocket. It appears as if

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Speaker 7: McCarthy got hurt in the pocket. What is this is

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Speaker 7: about the offensive line? Colin Minnesota's offensive line banged up,

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Speaker 7: missing the left tackle and the center got concussed. Bengo's

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Speaker 7: offensive line is a joke. If you don't protect your

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Speaker 7: expensive investment, this is on you, right. I mean, I

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Speaker 7: can't feel bad for these teams losing their quarterbacks. Washington

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Speaker 7: went out and got tunsled. They did the right thing

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Speaker 7: and Daniel still got hurt. But down four starters already

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Speaker 7: heading into week three is not great for the NFL five.

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Speaker 7: We'll see what happens with fields and the concussion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the I mean, I guess I look, I think

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Speaker 1: about definitive opinion. If I'm trying to think of definitive

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Speaker 1: opinions I have through three weeks. One of them is

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Speaker 1: Caleb and Ben Johnson is a weird fit. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: they upgraded their own line and it still feels like

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Speaker 1: he's under constant duress. That Bears offense is a weird fit.

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Speaker 1: The Indianapolis Colts have a really good roster and Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones and Shane Stike and you can say what you want,

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Speaker 1: but he plays now with a much more confidence. I

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Speaker 1: think Indy's just got better offensive personnel than people think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Pittman, Pierce, this tight end from Penn State

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Speaker 1: after the catch Hallo was a handful of Jonathan Taylor's

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Speaker 1: a top five running back. So it's like they had

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Speaker 1: the coach we liked. So I think Indianapolis is one

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Speaker 1: of those where we're like, you know what, when you

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Speaker 1: watch them play Denver, you didn't feel like Denver had

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Speaker 1: a significantly better roster, you know, I mean because Peyton

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Speaker 1: is considered a better coach than Stichan and bo Nick

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Speaker 1: you think is better than Daniel Jones. But as Mark

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Speaker 1: Schlera said, Indy controlled the lines of scrimmage.

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Speaker 5: So I think Indy.

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Speaker 1: One of my opinions through two weeks is Indy is

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Speaker 1: better than I gave them credit for.

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Speaker 7: They have looked that way so far. Yes, how about

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Speaker 7: this one? So Daniel Jones was cooking, like you said,

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Speaker 7: the backup is Anthony Richardson. There was chatter that his

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Speaker 7: agents were like, hey, can we get Anthony Richardson somewhere else.

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Speaker 7: How about this Washington's backup to Daniels's Marcus Mariota, two

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Speaker 7: running quarterbacks. If you're Washington, why not try to take

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Speaker 7: a flyer on Anthony Richardson. Just try to steal him

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Speaker 7: from the Colts. Hey, you guys aren't using him. We'll

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Speaker 7: take Anthony Richardson for I don't whatever you want, fourth

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Speaker 7: or fifth round pick?

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Speaker 5: Oh, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't give up a fourth round pick for Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 7: You don't think he can fetch that?

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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota is a great kid. I think that ship

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Speaker 1: has sailed. I don't think Listen, ask yourself. Look at

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Speaker 1: what Shane Steichen has done to Daniel Jones, and Anthony

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Speaker 1: Richardson was struggling to complete fifty five percent of his throats.

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Speaker 4: That's fair.

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Speaker 7: The counter, Colin, is that.

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Speaker 1: We and again the Colts, their offensive personnel appears to

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Speaker 1: be good. Anthony Richardson, they gave up on him. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's the problem, though. Baker Mayfield second, third, fourth chance, Oh,

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Speaker 1: he's awesome. Sam Darnold, third chance, Oh, this is our guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at Daniel Jones. He looks better than

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Speaker 1: he ever looked with the Giants. Is that?

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Speaker 7: Would you agree? Some of these quarterbacks? It just takes time.

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Speaker 7: So if you're a value shopper with stocks, you buy low.

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Speaker 7: Anthony Richardson's very low. Now, can some smart oc Cliff

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Speaker 7: Kingsbury fix him if you need him.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if he's fixable.

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Speaker 7: Oh I do. That's harsh. He started like twenty games.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, But Daniel, if you go back and I don't

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Speaker 1: know what they are, go back and look at Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: He won a playoff game goldd His in Minnoa, New

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Speaker 1: York and they didn't have a very good roster. When

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Speaker 1: I watched Daniel Jones yesterday against the Broncos pass rush,

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Speaker 1: he had a run game, he had time to throw.

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Speaker 1: It felt like he was throwing on second and five.

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Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, it was like the Colts were in

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Speaker 1: a perpetual second and five.

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Speaker 5: It's hard to struggle.

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Speaker 1: I think Indy's just got better personnel than we think, right,

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Speaker 1: And they came in and Indy came into this game

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Speaker 1: by after Patrick Sertan they attacked him. Yes, I mean.

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Speaker 5: Had really didn't do anything.

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Speaker 7: So Daniel Jones was remember his nickname was Vanilla Vick

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Speaker 7: with the Giants because he was more of a runner.

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Speaker 7: Now they're rebranding him as Indiana Jones. I don't know

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Speaker 7: if you saw this during the broadcast. He's Indiana Jones.

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Speaker 7: He's daring and he's actually winning. He looks like a

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Speaker 7: better thrower. Let me adjust that better thrower now than

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Speaker 7: he ever did with the Giants. Kid fifteen touchdown passes

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Speaker 7: or something crazy?

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Speaker 5: All right, the Colts have a better O line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, then, and it starts with that than a better

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Speaker 1: old line than the Giants. I think Andrew Thomas left

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Speaker 1: tackle with the Giants is good. He is hurt all

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Speaker 1: the time and the backup is not good. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure if it's an NFL player. So, I mean a

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Speaker 1: lot of the Colts success is they protect Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: and he's got tremendous weapons. But I'll give Daniel Jones credit.

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Speaker 1: He made a couple of throws up the left side.

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Speaker 5: But you were like, oh, those are big boy throws.

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Speaker 1: But again, when you have confidence, when you have time,

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Speaker 1: when it's second and five, when the defense, the linebackers

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Speaker 1: have to be honest and there's a cushion, makes a

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Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks look good.

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Speaker 5: We'll see them all.