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Speaker 2: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 3: John Annick and Kenny Florian. I love him. I can't

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Speaker 3: get enough of him.

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Speaker 4: Big job there, Cooktuffia Preger.

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Speaker 5: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 6: That's all.

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Speaker 1: So a lot to tape here on the Anaky Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 1: So our producer Cody Merrow asked me if I wanted

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Speaker 2: What a wout that open? Right now? Headshot bang?

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Speaker 1: Getting us going on on Monday, October thirty, ath twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three, Episode four forty five of the Antiki Floran Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by DraftKings. We are on the DraftKings Network DraftKings

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Speaker 1: YouTube channel. Clips on the antikid Florian podcast channel as well.

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Speaker 1: Kenfloat Halloween season. It's the eve of Halloween. I am

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Speaker 1: not a huge Halloween guy. You gotta be careful when

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Speaker 1: you bang on holidays these days. My younger brother Dave

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Speaker 1: really does not enjoy Halloween. My mother had a Halloween

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Speaker 1: party for the family on Saturday nights and costumes were optional.

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Speaker 1: So I am going as Luigi. That's why I have

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Speaker 1: the mustache back. My son is Mario, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it's very emotional. But I find myself on my way

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Speaker 1: to my mom's and I'm empty handed, and so I'm thinking,

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Speaker 1: do I stop at a liquor store, stop at public's

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Speaker 1: And I'm just like, fucking Luigia.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's so good.

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Speaker 4: I think if Freddy john Anick fans, if they saw

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Speaker 4: you in a Luigi outfit, that would be a pretty

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Speaker 4: special night.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't often think about going to the supermarketer

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Speaker 1: the grocery store as a public figure, but I will say,

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Speaker 1: in this moment, I thought, you know what, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of big martial arts fans down here. I just

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Speaker 1: don't need to walk in the public stress as Luigi

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Speaker 1: on a Saturday and open myself up to that conversation.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's going to be Luigi for me. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: just not a huge Halloween fan. I'm a new dog owner,

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Speaker 1: right and thankfully she doesn't bark every time the doorbell rings,

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Speaker 1: but not on like the fourth of July.

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Speaker 2: You got to deal with the.

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Speaker 1: Animals and just ravenous children coming to the door wanting

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Speaker 1: to take your entire basket of candy. So maybe they're

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Speaker 1: a little bit more sophisticated in Charlotte, North Carolina, but

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Speaker 1: I can tell you down here in bokwards Own, Florida,

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Speaker 1: gated community or otherwise, fuck the fucking savage is going.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my daughter definitely made sure to remind me that

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Speaker 4: tomorrow was Halloween. She's very excited. We have a whole

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Speaker 4: like kind of family outfit theme going on. Sad to

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Speaker 4: say it's Barbie, but I wow, Yeah, So you Ken,

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Speaker 4: You're n I might be, I might be.

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Speaker 1: He's Ken, I mean Cody. This is great. I need

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Speaker 1: Kenny Kenn. Nonetheless, Ken, there's a great Ken song. I'm

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Speaker 1: just you got you need a bluetooth speaker, I'm just Ken.

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Speaker 1: Look up the song after the show Ken Flow.

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Speaker 2: I know you will.

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Speaker 1: So I'm in my son's bedroom right now because my

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Speaker 1: But if you can humor me today, I'm in my

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Speaker 1: my daughter's soccer team there. It is the anikin Floran

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Speaker 1: podcast Greater Bok of Youth Soccer Association. So I said

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Speaker 1: of your chest, Honey, you know you gotta play hard, right,

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Speaker 2: She didn't like the pressure. Is that what happened? Well, right.

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Speaker 1: the front of your jersey, Tatum, you gotta go hard.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't go that far, but I just said, hey,

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Speaker 1: Why are you putting undue pressure on me? Oh, that's

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Speaker 1: no extra pressure. But hopefully we got some horses Kenflow

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Speaker 1: And if you don't know, Kenflo played soccer at Boston College,

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Speaker 1: outstanding midfielder. My daughter wants to play goalie. We'll see

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Speaker 1: So if you're here for Francis and Ghanu talk, we're

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Speaker 1: going to celebrate that man today like none other. He's

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Speaker 1: the baddest man on the planet. I think John Jones

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Speaker 1: the big UFC business as far as Sergey Pavlovitch, Tom

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Speaker 1: And there are so many overreaching themes here in terms

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Speaker 4: I thought it was extremely impressive what Francis and Ganu did.

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Speaker 4: He was taken on a guy in Tyson Fury, who

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Speaker 4: it was quite the challenge. A lot of people doubted

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Speaker 2: And I want to get into more of that.

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Speaker 4: And you know, sometimes if you don't win the fight,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you look like you went on vacation. Who

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Speaker 1: makes that shirt? Like, who makes your fucking shirt?

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Speaker 2: Ken Flow? I mean, Connie Fighter.

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Speaker 1: At Anti Florin Pod make that shirt look better than

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Speaker 1: Ken Flow is making it look right now. So Evan

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Speaker 1: twelve thirty six in the morning in Ghanu won that fight,

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Speaker 1: he's laid the foundation for a rematch which could pay him.

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Speaker 1: I don't know twenty five million dollars, but I guess Kenny.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it kind of neither here nor there in terms

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Speaker 4: I want to go into that deeper. And I had

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Speaker 4: it scored the same way. I didn't have round seven.

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Speaker 4: But I had two, three and eight with that ten

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Speaker 1: We're going to get into all of this. I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: Well, good gentlemen. I'm not used to the stream yard

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Speaker 1: I'm best part of the studio though, you can be

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Speaker 1: But thanks for thanks for checking in, all right, boys, So, Kenny,

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Speaker 1: heavyweights versus other weight classes, because the consequences of just

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Speaker 1: one punch are so dire. But how did Francis perform

437
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Speaker 1: relative to your expectations?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 1: Was he was he more defensively responsible and sound than

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Speaker 1: you expected him to be?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Why did he exceed so many expectations? Is it? Is

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Speaker 1: it just that that Tyson Fury is so good in

444
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Speaker 1: that science? Like why were you so surprised? Yeah, you know,

445
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Speaker 1: I think that's a great question. And you know, again,

446
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Speaker 1: I'm no boxing expert. I've been watching it since I

447
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Speaker 1: was a little kid, so been a boxing fan for

448
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Speaker 1: a while, not so much recently. But from what I

449
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Speaker 1: could tell, I think that defensively he was very sound.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I don't think he was buying a

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Speaker 1: lot of those fans from Tyson Fury, And I'm not

452
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Speaker 1: sure it's necessarily because the fans of Fury were bad

453
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Speaker 1: or anything. I just think that when you're used to

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Speaker 1: seeing so many different strikes come at you, and as

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Speaker 1: a mixed martial arts fighter, you go, wait, I only

456
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Speaker 1: need to worry about his hands, And I know.

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Speaker 2: Fury threw an I know Fury threw an elbow there

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Speaker 2: by the way.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure it was on by mistake, but you know,

460
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Speaker 4: I think that it makes it so much easier. And

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Speaker 4: when you get an athlete, a special, special athlete like

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Speaker 4: a Francis and Ganho, he just knew what was real

463
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Speaker 4: and what wasn't.

464
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Speaker 2: Real for the most part.

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Speaker 4: I think the length was a problem for him for

466
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Speaker 4: the most part, but I thought he did a great

467
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Speaker 4: job of being defensively sound. That countershot where he dropped

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Speaker 4: Fury was a thing of beauty. He has tremendous power,

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Speaker 4: and I think when Fury felt that power, he knew

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Speaker 4: he couldn't just kind of come forward and throw whatever

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Speaker 4: he wants. I also would love to know what Fury

472
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Speaker 4: was thinking when he was in the clinch, trying to

473
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Speaker 4: move around someone like Francis.

474
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Speaker 2: And God who.

475
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Speaker 4: I think that that was an intimidating feeling, because Fury

476
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Speaker 4: does use a clinch quite often in the fight. If

477
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Speaker 4: the guy gets too close, he wraps him up and

478
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Speaker 4: kind of moves around him, leans on him. Francis and

479
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Speaker 4: Gano was just pushing him completely out of the way

480
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Speaker 4: like he was nothing. It was Fury.

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Speaker 2: He was almost shooting for the legs there a couple times, right.

482
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Speaker 4: So I think the power, the size, the defensive capability,

483
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Speaker 4: the chin of in Ganu really surprised him. I don't

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Speaker 4: think he expected that at all. And I don't know,

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Speaker 4: I don't think he took him lightly either. And you

486
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Speaker 4: heard it from Fury's own mouth, he said, listen, I

487
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Speaker 4: don't take anything away from this. I did a proper camp.

488
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Speaker 4: I worked really hard. A lot of what Franceston Gano

489
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Speaker 4: was doing was throwing me off. And he walked this

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Speaker 4: comment back a little bit, but he actually said that

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Speaker 4: in Ghano was the toughest fight that he's had in

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Speaker 4: ten years.

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Speaker 2: What does that say when he said that, he.

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Speaker 4: Did walk it back a little bit, but still that

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Speaker 4: is an impressive statement. So I think the footwork of

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Speaker 4: in Gano was also very, very good. He wasn't, you know,

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Speaker 4: looking for big shots that were throwing him off balancing,

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Speaker 4: not throwing him off balance and opening him up to

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Speaker 4: a counter.

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Speaker 2: So it was just it.

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Speaker 4: Was very deliberate, very smart, very strategic what he did

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Speaker 4: out there, and he fought like a boxer.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Pro boxers, perhaps even champions defences Gon who could take

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Speaker 4: out you know, I was.

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Speaker 2: I was very, very impressed.

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Speaker 1: And I think Tyson Fury's comments speak more to all

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Speaker 1: the good that Francis and ghan who is, and less

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Speaker 1: to his contemporaries pre and Ghanuh not being all that great,

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Speaker 1: even though certainly you can cast judgment at some of

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Speaker 1: those other heavyweights based upon this result. I'm fascinated to

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Speaker 1: see how Francis and Ghana would do in a rematch.

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Speaker 1: The fact that he laid the foundation for a rematch

515
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Speaker 1: that could have him realize twenty five thirty million dollars

516
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Speaker 1: is just insane. Now, Tyson Fury is still going to

517
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Speaker 1: be favored in a rematch. You gotta think in terms

518
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Speaker 1: of the training camp that will proceed any rematch is

519
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Speaker 1: going to bring out the absolute best in Tyson Fury.

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Speaker 2: But Fury still won the fight.

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Speaker 1: And part of what we're going to talk to Eric

522
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Speaker 1: Nixon about was just this fight being there for the taking,

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Speaker 1: seemingly with six minutes to go, and I felt like

524
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Speaker 1: the production was trash all night and microphones were closed.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't hear the corner audio, so I don't even

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Speaker 1: know what type of advice was being imparted. Right, and

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Speaker 1: again this is not mixed martial arts with a more

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Speaker 1: quantifiable three or five rounds.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know Kenny.

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Speaker 1: After round eight, which was a Francis in Gano round,

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Speaker 1: it seemed like that fight was there for the taking.

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Speaker 1: But Tyson Fury did nothing rounds nine and ten to

533
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Speaker 1: get the split decision, not or at least to get

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Speaker 1: the nod from two of the three scorecards that matter.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree with you more on that one.

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Speaker 4: I think that it was the experience of Tyson Fury

537
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Speaker 4: that really shined in those rounds. I also think that

538
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Speaker 4: you know, you're not used to doing ten rounds as

539
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Speaker 4: a pro boxer. It's tough to deal with that, especially

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Speaker 4: a guy with that kind of size and that kind

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Speaker 4: of knowledge that Tyson Fury has. Just he just kind

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Speaker 4: of was able to keep Francis on the outside, never

543
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Speaker 4: let him get on the inside. But Land another one

544
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Speaker 4: of those big shots in those critical rounds. But I

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Speaker 4: agree that fight was there for Francis to go out

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Speaker 4: there and take.

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Speaker 2: He just wasn't able to capitalize there.

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Speaker 4: Whether where that was lack of experience or a credit

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Speaker 4: to Tyson Fury and his skills, probably a combination of both,

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Speaker 4: perhaps a little bit of conditioning issues in the boxing realm.

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Speaker 4: But you know, it was definitely that close where those

552
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Speaker 4: last two rounds were absolutely critical to whether and Godo

553
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Speaker 4: was going to win that fight. But again, very close,

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Speaker 4: and he still came out a winner with the fans,

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Speaker 4: which is which is pretty damn cool man.

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Speaker 1: A lot of credits should be reserved for Tyson Fury

557
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Speaker 1: as well. Yes, And you can start with him just

558
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Speaker 1: accepting this fight, right, does the competitor that resides in

559
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Speaker 1: all of you out there, would you have given Francis

560
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Speaker 1: and gone with that opportunity? I think there are myriad

561
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Speaker 1: boxing heavyweights that would have been less inclined to give

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Speaker 1: Francis the opportunity in part because of how dangerous a

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Speaker 1: fight it was. And I think Tyson Fury in his

564
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Speaker 1: camp was not blinded just how dangerous this fight was

565
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Speaker 1: and to dig deep when he had to to win

566
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Speaker 1: the final two rounds.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: I also think Tyson Fury will just of credit if

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Speaker 1: he gives Francis and Goanna the rematch and doesn't fight

570
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Speaker 1: this other guy in two months, right, So that is

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Speaker 1: where I would like to open up the conversation about

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Speaker 1: the PFL. One of your employers, one of many Kenny

573
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Speaker 1: Floyd and employeed a lot of people in the fucking

574
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Speaker 1: Kenny Florid business right now, So what is your appetite

575
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Speaker 1: for an immediate rematch? And do you think we will

576
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Speaker 1: see Francis and gan Who fighting mixed martial arts? And

577
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Speaker 1: I know you know the PFL cuts one of your

578
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Speaker 1: many paychecks from all of these fucking TV stations, But

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Speaker 1: I know that you're gonna say yes, and Gono's going

580
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: to fight in MMA. You know, I don't like boxing,

581
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Speaker 1: right like I like MMA. I want to see him

582
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Speaker 1: fight in MMA, but I gotta I gotta admit to you, Katey,

583
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Speaker 1: like I want to see Francis and Gana in boxing

584
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Speaker 1: right now. I want to see him in a rematch

585
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Speaker 1: with Tyson Fury. Do you really think we're going to

586
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Speaker 1: see him in the PFL within the next twelve months

587
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Speaker 1: or what?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'll say this, I'd be lying if I said

589
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Speaker 4: it wasn't a concern right now, John, right because he

590
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Speaker 4: has the ability to.

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Speaker 2: Be a star in a complete different sport.

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Speaker 4: Now, that just opened up a ton of opportunities for him,

593
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Speaker 4: not only the rematch with Tyson Fury. You have Anthony

594
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Speaker 4: Joshua and his manager that's calling him out now. I mean,

595
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Speaker 4: people want to fight this guy now because he's such

596
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Speaker 4: an amazing story to the other part of it.

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Speaker 1: Right, So in Ghana, Deontay Wilder, are you serious? Oh

598
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Speaker 1: my gosh, it would be crazy. So a ton of

599
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Speaker 1: opportunities now.

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Speaker 4: Everyone's kind of licking their lips who want to fight

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Speaker 4: Francis Aganoho, managers, promoters and otherwise. But I do think,

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Speaker 4: I do think we will see Francis Agano in the cage.

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Speaker 4: I think early twenty twenty four will at least see

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Speaker 4: one mixed martial arts fight. What happens after that, I

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Speaker 4: do not know, honestly, but I do think we will

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Speaker 4: see him. I think that Francis is someone who is

607
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Speaker 4: going to honor this. This wouldn't have happened without the PFL, right,

608
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Speaker 4: so I think that he will come back, will have

609
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Speaker 4: that one mixed martial arts fight. I think that is

610
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Speaker 4: going to help the pay per view tremendously for the PFL.

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a huge event, and.

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Speaker 4: Then after that he may he may go back to boxing.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but again, make no mistakes about this, right,

614
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Speaker 4: what Francis sigan who does best is mixed martial arts.

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Speaker 4: This was a tremendous performance for him in boxing. I

616
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Speaker 4: do think he could be a great boxer, But how

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Speaker 4: many years does that take him to go and do that?

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Speaker 4: As far as become a champion, get these fights that

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Speaker 4: he wants, you know, get the right preparation, make the

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Speaker 4: right adjustments.

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Speaker 2: So you know, sometimes things just work out perfectly.

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Speaker 4: In that one fight and the next one doesn't quite

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Speaker 4: work out as perfectly like So.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'm curious to see how it all goes down, but

626
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Speaker 4: I do think we will see Francis Aganu early next

627
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Speaker 4: year in a mixed martial arts fight in the PFL.

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Speaker 1: I do think the most important part of your answer

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Speaker 1: there was that he will honor that deal. And I

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Speaker 1: do think you're talking about an exceedingly honorable human being

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Speaker 1: who is going to want to honor that deal. But

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Speaker 1: when we talk to Eric Nixic later this week, I

633
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: can almost assure you they're going to try to do

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Speaker 1: that rematch before they risk anything in a mixed martial

635
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Speaker 1: arts setting. Speaking of honorable individuals, let us get to

636
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Speaker 1: his excellency in the Ray Longo Minute.

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Speaker 2: It's now time.

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Speaker 3: For the Ray Long Minutes. I'm gonna put a wholes

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Speaker 3: fucking That's what I want.

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Speaker 6: The Ray Long Minute, John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 5: The vocabulary is such a powerful tool, John, and you

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Speaker 5: use it to the will You use it to the

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Speaker 5: fullest extent, my friend.

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Speaker 1: So after leaving Abu Dabi, and by the way, it's

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Speaker 1: great to see you, and your voicemail really touched my heart.

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Speaker 1: I have less than ten voicemails saved on my phone.

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Speaker 5: I feel i'd love to talk to you because I

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Speaker 5: feel like I did was six weeks I believe, even

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Speaker 5: though you might have thought that I was kind of

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Speaker 5: in the haze.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well no, I appreciate your kindness and your concern

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Speaker 1: and everything else. You're the man as usual.

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Speaker 2: Uh. I don't love your haircut this week.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've gone to great lengths to try to

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Speaker 1: to shout out your your hairdresser and get her tipped.

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Speaker 1: But this is not her best effort at all. No

657
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Speaker 1: one attended great lengths on your hair. Yeah good, what happened?

658
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Speaker 2: Ray? Tell us what happened?

659
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Speaker 7: I really don't know, but I think it's all right.

660
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 7: Maybe the hair's going to hell.

661
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Speaker 2: No, he just gotta go a little bit shorter on

662
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Speaker 2: the side.

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Speaker 7: Oh ma.

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Speaker 1: So so much to discuss with you, But Franciston Ganu

665
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Speaker 1: has lit the combat sports world on fire with his

666
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Speaker 1: performance in defeat against Tyson Fury.

667
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Speaker 2: Was a close fight.

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Speaker 1: I think those who suggest this as a robbery have

669
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Speaker 1: certainly not been ingesting boxing for any amount of time.

670
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Speaker 1: But he was competitive. He had the big moments, or

671
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Speaker 1: at least the moment the knockdown in round three. What

672
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Speaker 1: were your thoughts on Franciston Gano against Tyson Fury?

673
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Speaker 2: Myment?

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Speaker 5: First off, I actually didn't see the fight, but I

675
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 5: did see the highlight, so I saw, you know, I

676
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 5: did see like ten minutes whatever that clip was.

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Speaker 7: Hey, look very calm, cool.

678
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Speaker 5: I thought he would have gotten more rattled, you know,

679
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Speaker 5: in that boxing setting, if he kept getting hit with

680
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Speaker 5: the jab over and over. But I think what I

681
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 5: saw Francis did a really good job.

682
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Speaker 7: You know, he just looked. It looked like a look

683
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Speaker 7: like a boxing match.

684
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Speaker 5: It looked like a competitive boxing match, and I think

685
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Speaker 5: that's a win for Francis. I mean everybody, A lot

686
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Speaker 5: of people think he won the fight, if not everybody

687
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Speaker 5: at this point, but I think he that's a win

688
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Speaker 5: win win any way you'll look at it.

689
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Speaker 7: I mean, not even not even for the fight, just

690
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Speaker 7: what he did.

691
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Speaker 5: And I came in at the end of your conversation,

692
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Speaker 5: but I think he is an honorable guy. I think

693
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Speaker 5: he proved that even with his negotiations, that money wasn't

694
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Speaker 5: going to sway him. He wanted his freedom. And I

695
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 5: think he's a he seems like a very principal guy.

696
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Speaker 5: And I think he will honor his PFL contact uh

697
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Speaker 5: contract and uh yeah, And I and I agree with

698
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Speaker 5: you John that rematch has to be done sooner rather

699
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Speaker 5: than later, depending on what the numbers. Well I'm assuming

700
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 5: and even whatever the numbers were, the rematch will be

701
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Speaker 5: even more because the rematch, I'll definitely you know, tune

702
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Speaker 5: in for you.

703
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Speaker 1: Know, it was so cool to see all of the

704
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: boxing and MMA legends all convened together in Riod, Saudi Arabia,

705
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: and of course to see is there a lot of

706
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: Sonia and kamar Usman being given prominent roles by Nghanu

707
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: and being right there with him was just really a

708
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: heartwarming thing. And yeah it was great. I mean, I

709
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: just didn't know that I was going to be there

710
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: for you know, six or seven hours after the co

711
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: main event, waiting for the main event to drop.

712
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Speaker 2: But uh, you know, yeah, my goodness, my goodness. Man.

713
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Speaker 1: So like all hail Francis and Gonaway, I wish he

714
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Speaker 1: was still in the UFC right. You know, the Antikmploring

715
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: podcast always tries to shoot you straight, even though UFC

716
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: cuts my check, PFL cuts Ken flows check. But I

717
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: tweeted Francis and Gano was the man. Can't wait to

718
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: celebrate him on the Anti Comploring podcast tomorrow, having sat

719
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Speaker 1: through the entire pay per view live event yesterday. Though,

720
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Speaker 1: I've never been more proud of our UFC live production

721
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: team nor our pay per view product. Now, yes, certainly

722
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: our pay per view product is not perfect, and we

723
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Speaker 1: ask a lot of our fans seven or eight hours

724
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Speaker 1: every Saturday night. But what the fuck was going on

725
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: in soud Arabia? I mean concerts and dead air and

726
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: all these different things, Like you would think that over

727
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: the years, boxing and promoters would have learned a little

728
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: bit in terms of how to televise a live events.

729
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: I mean, feeling for my guy Joe tessitour right, you

730
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: get the best field guy in the business, but there's

731
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Speaker 1: only so much you can do.

732
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Speaker 2: I mean the guys on a fucking island.

733
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I retweeted that too, because I look,

734
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 5: I'm biased with you guys, but I think production wise,

735
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 5: you can't beat the UFC. I mean, look, even at

736
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 5: all the promotions and the fights, you know, we'd go

737
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 5: to different part I mean, I'm not pissing on any promote,

738
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 5: but the UFC they do a great job. They just

739
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 5: do a good job with that, you know.

740
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Speaker 1: I mean we spend money on it though in time, right,

741
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: it's like.

742
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys have so many more reps than everybody else.

743
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 4: You've been doing this, I think from a you know,

744
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 4: the amount of events if you.

745
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: Add up the last five ten.

746
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 4: Years, and it's the same machine over and over, so

747
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 4: you know, many of the similar guys in the same positions,

748
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Speaker 4: who know, who have.

749
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Speaker 2: Been all over the world.

750
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Speaker 4: You don't know how to already kind of preemptively fix

751
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 4: a lot of these bugs and sad issues like these

752
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 4: are things that are underappreciated that people don't realize when

753
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 4: they're watching event, everything that goes into it.

754
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: But the UFC is just a monster in that regard.

755
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 4: You know, they've been doing it so damn long and man,

756
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 4: they are the best in the biz when it comes

757
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 4: to production for a reason.

758
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's why.

759
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 5: I mean, I even told you again, this is not

760
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 5: I'm not criticized anybody, but even when that kid Montalvo

761
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 5: for in Belleto, Like, I was looking at the fights

762
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 5: and I'm like, I text Steve Lee, I good, anybody

763
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 5: tell you that he's not fighting till after the main event?

764
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 5: Like no, you know what I mean, Like, I'm looking

765
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 5: at the loinup. There's no physical way you could fit

766
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 5: these fights in. And then they come in like a

767
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 5: half hour later, Kenny, and they tell the kid you're

768
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 5: gonna fight three hours instead of twenty minutes.

769
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Speaker 7: No, no, no, It's like, yeah, like again, it should happens.

770
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Speaker 7: You know. Back in the day they had what's gold

771
00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,959
Speaker 7: swinging bouts, we went through the whole story.

772
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, but today with the way that everything is,

773
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 5: I'm I'm always asked the one do you think we're

774
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 5: on ten minutes and five minutes after the main event?

775
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 7: After the interviews, you know, they could it.

776
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 6: They have it.

777
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 5: They're on top of it, like I've never seen anybody

778
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 5: on top of it.

779
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Speaker 1: And I don't intend to have like a long winded

780
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: conversation about how offensive that production was for me. Right,

781
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: But the UFC, to Kenny's point, has devoted a lot

782
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: of resources, right, editors, producers. Every feature is fine tooth calmed, right, Yes, Kenny,

783
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: Ryan Mitchell and all of the wonderful audio guys, Miles. Yes,

784
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 1: if anybody were to criticize the UFC pay per view

785
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: or maybe they would say that we haven't reinvented the wheel,

786
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: and it's pretty similar to what you saw several years ago,

787
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: the way the combo features lead into the fight.

788
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: Right.

789
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: So I've even had discussions with my bosses about maybe

790
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: creatively getting away from some of those things. But obviously

791
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: our system works, right, but like in house producers making

792
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: sure that the in house works, Like I guess, I'm

793
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: just surprised the guy who did belatour one in two

794
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: thousand and nine that you could still have a boxing

795
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: pay per view on this level and actually trot out

796
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: that piece of shit, if I'm being totally honestlate that

797
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: surprises me. You know, my family's looking at me like

798
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: I'm crazy, and I'm saying in one part yet, maybe

799
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: I need to order more boxing pay per views. So

800
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm more conditioned to this. Part of it is that

801
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: I went straight from boxing media to MMA media, so

802
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: I was actually covering these boxing events, and I was

803
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: just sitting there scoring fights, not sitting home wondering what

804
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: on God's Green Earth is going on? The KO main

805
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: event athletes, the poor guys, Right, there was a great

806
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: fucking knockout in the k Maine event. They're not even

807
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: talking about those athletes, right, I don't.

808
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: I don't even know.

809
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 7: This is fantastic.

810
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: We got him.

811
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Speaker 4: I don't know if John would have walked away from

812
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 4: that production if he was working those fights, but it

813
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 4: would have been close.

814
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Speaker 7: I think. You know, it's funny. Everybody. Everybody's got their thing.

815
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 7: He's unhinged about this production. This is crazy, but it is.

816
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 7: Look when you're sitting there like like I had.

817
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 5: Obviously, I was at the gym and I try. You know,

818
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 5: we couldn't get the fights at the gym, so I

819
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 5: try it. Then I had to go out to eat

820
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 5: with somebody, and yeah, I'm like, holy court when somebody says,

821
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 5: somebody give me the results of the fights got to

822
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 5: be over.

823
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: The Yeah, it didn't start you.

824
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 5: I was like, I think I could make it home,

825
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 5: but it was so it was not good because that

826
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 5: things started at too and I don't know, you know whatever.

827
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,959
Speaker 7: That last thing off the fights, that.

828
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: Was a long Every time on pay per view, I

829
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: say to our viewership, we don't take your viewership for granted.

830
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us for UFC two ninety four. Right,

831
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: We're trying to fucking earn your pay per view dollar

832
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: next time. That's why I don't go out to dinner

833
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: on Friday night.

834
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Speaker 2: All right.

835
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Speaker 1: So, in terms of Francis and Ghanu and his immediate future, Ray,

836
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Speaker 1: do you think we're going to see him in a

837
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Speaker 1: major boxing setting before we see him in the PFL

838
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: competing in mixed martial arts?

839
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Speaker 7: I mean, I don't. I don't know what his deal is.

840
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 5: I don't know what his obligations are, but I you know,

841
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 5: we already feel that he's an honorable guy in Yolana.

842
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 7: Whatever it is.

843
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 5: So I really don't know what it is, but I

844
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 5: think I think Francis is gonna do he wants his

845
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 5: You know, he's got his freedom. I think he's gonna

846
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 5: sit back and make whatever decision he has to make

847
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 5: based on, you know, his personality. So we have to

848
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 5: see what he's offered, you know, what his obligations are,

849
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 5: his legal obligations.

850
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 7: Are, and take it from there. But I think, I honestly,

851
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 7: I think he's just in a win win situation.

852
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 5: Like I mean, I'll be honest with you, like if

853
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,479
Speaker 5: he made a ship ton of money on that fight,

854
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 5: which he did, and he, you know, honest his you know,

855
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 5: his obligation with the PFL maybe making less money. This

856
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 5: guy's just a great guy. I mean, you know, he's

857
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 5: he seems the fact that he was able to walk

858
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 5: away from that deal this is this is crucial too

859
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 5: for a lot of reasons because it's going to give

860
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 5: other guys hope to go, holy shit, Francis walked away

861
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 5: from that and look what he did, you know, And

862
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 5: they made it seem like, you know, Francis was a

863
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 5: dead man, like he was never getting a fight, and

864
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 5: what's he gonna do when he's gonna Francis is doing

865
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 5: just line man. So I think that's another part of

866
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 5: the puzzle that it's gonna make everybody think I got

867
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Speaker 5: my guys, go, ma, think I can get a boxing fight.

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Speaker 4: And listen, he's gonna get he's gonna get paid in

869
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Speaker 4: the PFL. When he's asking for the PFL to give

870
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Speaker 4: one or two million dollars to the guy that he fights.

871
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well this is what I kill the guys in

872
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 5: the gym. And I don't get why is not every

873
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 5: fighter rallying around this guy based on what we've heard.

874
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 5: Why is not everybody just going, holy shit, man, this guy.

875
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 5: This guy's a good guy. He's actually even looking out

876
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 5: for us a little bit. And even if he isn't,

877
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 5: he at least he's he's starting that dialogue. I don't

878
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 5: get it.

879
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: Do you know the answer to that question? Do you

880
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: want an answer to that question? Why haven't they all

881
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: rallied together? Well, Kenny knows the answer, and one part,

882
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: you need the high profile guys to be part of

883
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: that rally. But let's just take Kevin Holland, right, right,

884
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: I got pretty well paid guy, right, Yeah. For Kevin

885
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: Holland making at least six figures every time he shows up,

886
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: which oftentimes is four or five times a year, and

887
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: bonuses company. Man, maybe he doesn't prioritize world championships, right.

888
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: But Kevin Hollin's doing just fine.

889
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: Right.

890
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: Some people have said to me they want me to

891
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: devote my life to it, right, And yeah, I like

892
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 1: to try to figure out a way to make fighter

893
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: pay and just across the board, just in a different

894
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: place twenty five years from now than where it is

895
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: right now. But you need you need high profile guys

896
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: on board. And I just think too many men and

897
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: women in the fight game are pretty satisfied with their

898
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: current position that their foremost priorities not to help the

899
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: guy making twelve and.

900
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 7: Twelve Yeah, which is which is fine, you know, but

901
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 7: I think Francis at least opened the door for a

902
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 7: couple of those discussions, and I think the guys should

903
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 7: be given credit for that. This was pretty big, John,

904
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 7: I mean, it's a lot. There was a lot of

905
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 7: money put into that show, and it was a lot

906
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 7: of money I'm sure those guys made. And I'm sure

907
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 7: they're looking at the rematch and what they could do

908
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 7: different and maybe cut back here and there making another

909
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 7: shitload of money. Yeah, And you know, you know, to

910
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 7: you of you know, Dane is a competitive guy too.

911
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 5: He wants those He loves those promotions. It's like, you know,

912
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 5: it would be like Elon Muskin Zuckerberg going somewhere else

913
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 5: and doing that fight. You know, Like, I think that

914
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 5: shit would drive him crazy because that's what he's known for,

915
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

916
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 7: So this one's tricky, man, This one is pretty tricky.

917
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 7: But that's off to Francis Man. I think, yeah, yeah,

918
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 7: that's a great example of a.

919
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 5: Guy betting on himself and coming out based and that

920
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 5: John I really thinking it's the key. With a lot

921
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 5: of really principal people, Francis probably would have been great

922
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 5: if nothing ever happened. Again, that's the key he was.

923
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 5: He was satisfied. When you're free like that, you know that, Jocko,

924
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 5: discipline equals freedom. Yeah, discipline fucking girl's freedom, buddy, it

925
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 5: really does. It's a great saying because France has proved it. Man,

926
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 5: it took discipline to get to do what he did.

927
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 5: And I agree, once you're free like that, you can

928
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 5: make those decisions really clean. Once you're you know, it's

929
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 5: like it's like buying a house. I would tell my

930
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 5: wife were going to look at a house. Whatever you do,

931
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 5: don't say you like the house, you know, and then

932
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 5: there's no negotiation at all, right, Right, you got to go.

933
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 7: In there like I don't need the house.

934
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 8: And when when you don't need a house and you're

935
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 8: living somewhere and you're gonna get a great deal sometime,

936
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 8: if you rush into it, you're gonna maybe you'll be happy,

937
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 8: but you're not going to get the deal you would

938
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 8: have if you were free to to really make those

939
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 8: decisions the right way.

940
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 7: So I think that's that's what Francis proves to me.

941
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 7: And Manny went in there and any and.

942
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 5: From the clips I saw, I thought he looked absolutely fantastic.

943
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 5: So you know, it is what it is. Man do

944
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 5: I like the uh, you know, the entertainment thing and

945
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 5: the for now not really, but this this one worked

946
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 5: out pretty good.

947
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: Well.

948
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: Collectively, we are all just elated for Francis sin Gatu,

949
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: And even as somebody who works for the UFC, I

950
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: was very hopeful for his sake that he got the

951
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: Tyson Fury fight right, because the biggest cornerstone to this

952
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: bet on himself was getting that singular Tyson Fury fight

953
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: and he was able to get that, and uh, I

954
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: hope we get to see him in a mixed martial

955
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: arts setting selfishly. But I will say right now, as

956
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: a combat sports fan, I hope that his next fight

957
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: is in boxing and a rematch against Tyson Fury and Kenny.

958
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: I imagine Tyson Fury has an appetite for the rematch, right,

959
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: like Isla Makasha beat Alexander Volkanovski. Right, But he certainly

960
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: didn't like the narrative after that first meeting, and then

961
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 1: he had kicked him out in round one in the rematch.

962
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: Right.

963
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: If you're Tyson Fury, perhaps this is rhetorical, Ray, But

964
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: don't you want to sort of right this wrong even

965
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: though you won the fight?

966
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 7: Oh one, I think one hundred percent. You know. Let

967
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 7: me say another thing too, And I don't know who

968
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 7: the guy is, but hats off to and Gano's manager.

969
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 7: And I have no clue who the guy.

970
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: Is, mar Kel Martins's name, Yeah, and.

971
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 5: I still don't know who he is, but pat heads

972
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 5: off to him though, because you know, like I'm not

973
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 5: a big fan of like managers, but this was a

974
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 5: guy that must have known something. Negotiate those deals what

975
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 5: was going on. This is what a manager should do.

976
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 5: This is exactly what a manager should do. Take a risk,

977
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 5: but have you know he maybe it wasn't that much

978
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 5: of a risk. Maybe this guy did his his legwork

979
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 5: on the back end and he knew which way everything

980
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 5: was going, you know. But I think that's another overlook

981
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 5: value because right now it's like everything is you know,

982
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 5: you go up two thousand and you do this, There's

983
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 5: not much wiggle room.

984
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 7: For the managers to get in this. That's why I say,

985
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 7: I don't even know sometimes what they're doing, right, But

986
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 7: I'm not taken away from it. I like every batage

987
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 7: of my guys have.

988
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 5: But but Francis's guy put together something that was pretty

989
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 5: fucking cool.

990
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: Man.

991
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 7: So whoever, what was his.

992
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: Name, markel Martin former left full time employee. He was actually,

993
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 1: oh wow, Lorette I believe back in the day as well.

994
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 5: But no, you're absolutely right, yeah, Tamar Kelon, because I

995
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 5: think this was this was huge and this was really big.

996
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Ray I was talking with John, But I

997
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised, you know, if I'm like his manager

998
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 4: or marketing guy or whatever, like I'd be hammering home

999
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 4: the point that in round three, if that was a

1000
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: mixed martial arts contest, that fight is over.

1001
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 7: Tyson, Oh, yeah, he gets knocked down.

1002
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a hammer fists coming from New Jersey

1003
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 4: that are going to be pounding his head into the canvas, right.

1004
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: I mean like if it was a.

1005
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 4: Real mixed martial arts fight, if it was what Francis

1006
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 4: and Gatu does best, that fight would have been over.

1007
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1008
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, definitely man. And I tell you what I mean. Listen,

1009
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 5: it almost works out better that he lost because it's

1010
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 5: bringing more attention to the fight and Riley won, you

1011
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like it's everything worked out good,

1012
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 5: even the loss.

1013
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 4: I mean, there were so many there were so many

1014
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 4: boxing professionals, former fighters, current fighters who thought that in

1015
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 4: Kanda won that fight, right, I get I think the wrong.

1016
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 4: I think the wrong. It was very fight. But you know,

1017
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 4: maybe they.

1018
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 2: Have some sort of some kind of an argument. But

1019
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: when you hear guys.

1020
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 4: Former boxing world champs, you know, guys in the game,

1021
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 4: just screaming that just that alone, I mean, has added

1022
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 4: so much to the fire.

1023
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, and back to his baging for another. Imagine for

1024
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 7: a manager to have a guy in that position, as you.

1025
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 5: So, even the manager whatever, they offered him ten million,

1026
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 5: twelve men and think of what his cut is that

1027
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 5: he had to walk away from that too, So I

1028
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 5: I don't know why I'm keying in on that, but

1029
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 5: I think, my goodness, I know there's a lot of

1030
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 5: moving parts that really had to be working and think

1031
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 5: for this thing to happen unless all the stars just

1032
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 5: a line, right.

1033
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 7: But I'm saying win win, win, win win for Francis.

1034
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 5: And I don't know, I'm kind of curious to see

1035
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 5: what the you know, going forward, what the backlash will

1036
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 5: be with everybody else, because I could already tell you,

1037
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 5: like and look, Kenny, I mean you noticed to me,

1038
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 5: I don't know if I make my guy's box every week, right,

1039
00:47:59,120 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 5: you know, like I.

1040
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: You know, I did just boxing rounds for a while.

1041
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not you know, when you're doing MMA, that's

1042
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 5: almost a relief, you know what I mean. I use

1043
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 5: it just so they get that contact and they there's

1044
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 5: a listship and chance of them getting hurt, you know

1045
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 5: what I mean. And and look, if you look at

1046
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 5: the fights, eighty percent is you know, striking if you

1047
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 5: think about it or whatever.

1048
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 7: But go ahead, Kenny.

1049
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 4: John asked me a great question of why I think

1050
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 4: that maybe and gone who did so well against Fury,

1051
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 4: And I think and I love to get your opinion

1052
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 4: on it. Do you think it has anything to do

1053
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 4: with the fact that he's only looking at one weapon?

1054
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 4: Now for the most part, you know, it's like you're

1055
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 4: in mixed martstarts. You're weren't about takedowns, leg kicks, calf kicks,

1056
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 4: thigh kicks, body kicks straight. The only thing he had

1057
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 4: to worry about was was hands. And I think he

1058
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 4: was seeing a lot of those faiths coming. Am I

1059
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 4: crazy to think?

1060
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 7: No one? And he looked like he was comfortable. He

1061
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 7: looked like he fought like that. Yeah, this is great.

1062
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 5: I could just go forward and I don't have to

1063
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 5: worry about game kick the taken down or.

1064
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 7: So listen, boxing is part of the MMA. You got

1065
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 7: to be boxing if you're in there.

1066
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 5: So it's not like he yeah, he never had a

1067
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 5: boxing match, but he was boxing. Look, I'm gonna say this, Kenny.

1068
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 5: I think you'll agree with this, especially when, like when

1069
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 5: you were fighting. I would make my guy we had

1070
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 5: a local.

1071
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 7: Pl in the air, I would make my guys go

1072
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 7: down there and box because it was terrifying. You know,

1073
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 7: back then, I want to see you, you really want

1074
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 7: to fight.

1075
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna eliminate your weapons that you could use, and

1076
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 5: you're gonna learn what it's like to get hit and

1077
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 5: come back and think under pressure and think.

1078
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 7: It was always I was always panicking. Today, I take

1079
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 7: my guys down. It's game.

1080
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: All doing well.

1081
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 5: It wasn't like twenty years ago, you know, where it

1082
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 5: was like I would bring in boxes and be I'd

1083
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 5: behold of my breath, like, oh, how he doesn't get killed,

1084
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 5: because then it'll be bad.

1085
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 7: This Today it's empty, game over. Yeah, yeah, one hundred

1086
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 7: great work, now, great work? Can they want those guys now?

1087
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Speaker 7: That's how good they are? So I think that's where

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Speaker 7: I'm coming.

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Speaker 5: So even though he didn't box, wasn't like he never

1090
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Speaker 5: was just in a boxing setting, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: He's boxed before.

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Speaker 4: And that's why I truly believe this is what This

1093
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 4: was a big win for mixed martial arts because you

1094
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 4: see how much how far we've come. You know, we

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00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 4: always were criticized. Ah yeah, but their hands they're not

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Speaker 4: like boxers. And yet well look at this one.

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Speaker 5: See how far right and hats off the Tyson Fury

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Speaker 5: for even entertaining this fight.

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Speaker 7: Unlike Logan Pole, who really is just a mastermind of

1100
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Speaker 7: picking guys that are coming out of their grave and

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Speaker 7: making you know, building a whoever whatever.

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Speaker 1: Pole isoBA was the one who has fought Ben Askron,

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Speaker 1: Tyron Woodley and right.

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Speaker 7: I mean, this guy's just a marketing genius.

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Speaker 5: I mean I give him, I give him an a

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00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 5: plus for that, but holy crow, you recycle those names

1107
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 5: and then you're making the name more for it. I

1108
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 5: think it's horrendous, horrendous. I mean, imagine the first guy

1109
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 5: calls has been asked for. You know, everybody knows Ben

1110
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 5: was no for his boxing in the UFC. I mean,

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00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 5: is he right?

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Speaker 1: I want to right, one of the greatest boxers in

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00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: the UFC history.

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Speaker 7: And credit and he would even laugh at that because

1115
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 7: I think he's a great guy.

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00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 4: I also think Connor McGregor deserves credit, right, Connor McGregor

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00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 4: employed for kind of opening the door for this fight

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00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 4: to even be feasible, right, And we all saw how

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Speaker 4: popular that one was, and I think this did perhaps

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Speaker 4: maybe not as well.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what the numbers were,

1122
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 2: but you know.

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Speaker 4: It was it's guys like Connor McGregor employed Mayweather that

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00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 4: also opened the doors to this fight even kind of

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Speaker 4: I can see it and.

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Speaker 7: Cond of McGregor a hundred percent can box. He can

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00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 7: box period.

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Speaker 5: Oh yes, you know, so so big big stuff on

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Speaker 5: a lot of for a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 5: different reasons.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to get a call later today from

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Speaker 1: Mark helm Martin. He's going to say, yeah, I just

1133
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Speaker 1: want to let you know I'm representing Ray Longo's business

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Speaker 1: interest for Yeah, I'll have.

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Speaker 2: To yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 7: I say, you're gonna get a call. He goes, I'm

1137
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 7: I just want to look, you know, I'm representing Ray Longo's.

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Speaker 1: Hair, just representing his hair and his business interests and

1139
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: a lot of responses, and then I would have to

1140
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: let Markel know that the Ray Longo minute T shirt

1141
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Speaker 1: is no longer the top seller at john antic dot com.

1142
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Speaker 2: Let's go what.

1143
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 7: I saw a lot of big boxes of merchandise moving.

1144
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,959
Speaker 1: We're selling a lot of the Ray Longo minute shirt.

1145
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: But I'm just letting you and Markel know is not

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Speaker 1: because of the Anakin Flooring podcast logo. T is the

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Speaker 1: number one right now.

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Speaker 7: I'm just saying, hey, hey.

1149
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Speaker 2: Don't don't shoot the messenger for starting right.

1150
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: This is not a I'm not negotiating against you and

1151
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: Markel right now. This is not a ploy to have

1152
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Speaker 1: your cut be less. I'm just letting you know, and

1153
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Speaker 1: all the Minute men out there that aren't buying T

1154
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Speaker 1: shirts twenty percent off, twenty percent off through I think

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Speaker 1: the week of November right now, twenty percent off everything,

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Speaker 1: and that gets you followed from me on x dot

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Speaker 1: com as well. You just show me you and your

1158
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Speaker 1: T shirt. All you really need to do. It's just

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Speaker 1: right to you, dude, I bought the longo Minute shirt

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Speaker 1: and I'll fall you go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Is that what you did? Though? You put your shirts

1163
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Speaker 7: at fifty so they you cheat? Come on, BOYU, is

1164
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 7: that what you think you marketed like that?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 7: You doing me like that? Kenny?

1167
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Speaker 1: I would you like the price point of your shirt?

1168
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: If you would like the price point of your shirt?

1169
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: You know you don't even control.

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Speaker 2: That, you know what?

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Speaker 7: You know what you listen the anti Florian shirt. You

1172
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 7: know what it's called in marketing a lost leader, bring

1173
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Speaker 7: him in.

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Speaker 5: You bring him in for like fin dollars and then

1175
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 5: when they see my shirt, they go.

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Speaker 7: We go.

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Speaker 2: You know what?

1178
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: Tell Markel, if you guys want to sell your own merchandise,

1179
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: you want to sell your own Ray long Goo Mint

1180
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Speaker 1: of T shirts, right, Sarah Longo, fucking long Goo widing

1181
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Speaker 1: at MMA, get ahead?

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00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: All right?

1183
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 5: Hey, if anybody's out there wants to represent I have

1184
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 5: absolutely no representation.

1185
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 7: I have no marketing.

1186
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: Look at this throwing Markel under the bus.

1187
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 7: Well, mar Kel, I'm given thirty percent. How's that?

1188
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: All right? We'll see.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you actually wield that type of power,

1190
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: but all kidding aside, Ray gets a significant cut, significant

1191
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Speaker 1: cut if you do want to support him, John Annack

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Speaker 1: dot com. The Ray Longo Minute, New Designs, average show

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Speaker 1: art are out and available to you. All right, So

1194
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Speaker 1: we have to get into the major UFC news, and

1195
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: then at about ten minutes we will bring up Brian

1196
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: Patrie and get some predictions for UFC Fight Night now

1197
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: Mata versus Lewis, UFC and sal Polo coming up this

1198
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: weekend on ESPN Plus. But major news. Since we were

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Speaker 1: last on the air surrounding UFC two ninety five, John

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Speaker 1: Jones has a torn pectoral muscle. He has already undergone surgery,

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00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: so he and Stepe are not fighting at UFC two

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00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: ninety five. There will now be an interim heavyweight championship

1203
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: fight between Sergey Pavlovich and Tom aspinall that is the

1204
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: new co headliner. But there's a lot layers to this,

1205
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: not unlike the Agana situation. Right, Certainly, the magnitude of

1206
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: the Jones Stepe fight is such that people are upset,

1207
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: even though I think to most Avid fans, we're absolutely

1208
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: salivating over the possibility of seeing Sergey Pavlovich and Tom

1209
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Speaker 1: Asperul here in less than two weeks. So Ray, I'll

1210
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: start with you your thoughts on the John Jones news

1211
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: and ultimately how it impacts the heavyweight division.

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Speaker 5: Man very disappointing. I mean, look, I got three guys

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Speaker 5: on the cart. I was really looking forward to that fight.

1214
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Speaker 5: You know, I'm good friends with Stepe love the guy

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Speaker 5: Jones is, you know, one of the greatest to ever

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Speaker 5: do it, with a couple of you know, asterismiths to

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Speaker 5: his name. But it's disappointing like everything else, And the

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Speaker 5: only thing I don't like about the other fights again,

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Speaker 5: what are they bring an aspinall In on two weeks

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Speaker 5: for the heavyweight Championship of the World, Like I just

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Speaker 5: they should. I know, you got to make the fights,

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00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 5: but you know, one guy who was the backup fighter,

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Speaker 5: so you know he's been training because he thinks there's

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00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 5: a possibilities fight and then the guy up on two weeks.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a big ask against a guy like

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Speaker 5: Sergey Pavlovitch. So I hope Aspinall was at least in

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Speaker 5: the gym and he gives it a good go. But

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Speaker 5: he's got his work cut out for him with that

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Speaker 5: guy's a beast.

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Speaker 4: Flu Yeah, listen, I think this is really unfortunate for

1231
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Speaker 4: John Jones, and I'm sure we'll get into that a

1232
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 4: little bit more later, but.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I think this is a phenomenal fight.

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Speaker 4: Like Ray, I don't think it's ideal circumstances, and I

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00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 4: think that as we've seen with with fights like the

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Speaker 4: one with Alexander Volkanowski for example, and perhaps even the

1237
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 4: one with Uzman and Chimaya, I think it kind of

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00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 4: does more to the psyche of the fighter than it

1239
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 4: does even to the skills of a fighter, because because

1240
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 4: you know you haven't had a full camp sometimes that

1241
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 4: will play tricks with you. I'm curious to see how

1242
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 4: that affects Aspital. This guy is highly skilled. I think

1243
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 4: he has more ways to win in this one against Pavlovitch.

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Speaker 4: But Pavlovitch, of course, very very dangerous fighter, has proving

1245
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 4: his knockout power time and time again. Uh So I

1246
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 4: think it's a fascinating matchup and one that will be

1247
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 4: very exciting, and we'll deliver that excitement.

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Speaker 2: But what that does to the psyche.

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Speaker 4: Of someone like Tom Aspinall, who's probably used to competing

1250
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 4: under more ideal circumstances.

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Speaker 2: I think we'll find out and we'll see.

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Speaker 5: So I think, though, go ahead, right, Joe, let me

1253
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Speaker 5: just I think for John Jones really, because it's not

1254
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Speaker 5: like an injury for a couple of months, that's a

1255
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 5: big injury. He's not getting younger.

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Speaker 7: It's it.

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Speaker 5: That's it's it's really unfortunate because who knows what could

1258
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Speaker 5: happen in the course of that year.

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Speaker 7: A lot of things can change, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder if that fight happens, you know, with

1261
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 4: both those guys a little bit older now, you know,

1262
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Speaker 4: it was kind of tough to put together in the

1263
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Speaker 4: first place, and that just brings back Yeah, I think, wow,

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Speaker 4: which kind of sticks because that's a fight that myself

1265
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 4: and I know a lot of other people who wanted

1266
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,439
Speaker 4: to see see that fight so we'll see.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not like they're pushing the fight back to

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Speaker 7: the next UFC. This is it's uncertain. You know, that's

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Speaker 7: a that's a pretty bad injury. You know, that's a

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Speaker 7: pretty bad injury, especially for a fight.

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Speaker 1: I sort of feel like John Jones should have been

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Speaker 1: forced to vacate the title knowing that he was going

1273
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: to be out at least a year dating to UFC

1274
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: two eighty five, which was March of twenty twenty three,

1275
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: when he beats Seedle Gone. So I guess I would

1276
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: just like more clarity as far as Sergey Padlovich and

1277
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Speaker 1: Tom aspinall. I do think the winner of that fight

1278
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: eventually is going to be promoted to be the undisputed

1279
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: UFC Heavyweight champion and they'll make that first defense against

1280
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: step A or I don't know, man, I just have

1281
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: my reservations as to whether or not they're going to

1282
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: be able to put that John Jones steep A fight together.

1283
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: And certainly John, you know, is going hard in training.

1284
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: But I have to wonder aloud, if you're training and

1285
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: going hard straight from UFC two eighty five, maybe is

1286
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: that more preventative As far as this injury occurring, and

1287
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: perhaps that sounds like a criticism. I guess if it does,

1288
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: so be it. But this fight was holding up the division, Kenny,

1289
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Speaker 1: And I know people don't want to hear that, right, Like, yes,

1290
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Speaker 1: I was excited to go call John Jones versus step

1291
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Speaker 1: A mich even though Stipe's last fight he was thirty

1292
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: eight now he's forty one, right, But yes, I was

1293
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: excited to go call that fight. But I feel like

1294
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: sometimes when I say pro UFC things or I defend

1295
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: Pavlovich aspenall people are saying, Oh, it's just because the

1296
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: UFC cuts the check. No, this was the hardest ticket

1297
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Speaker 1: in UFC history, right, and I feel like it remains

1298
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: pretty close to that.

1299
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Speaker 2: Right.

1300
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Speaker 1: Yes, people can go get a refund, right. I need

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Speaker 1: twelve tickets right now. I'm twelve sure I can't get

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Speaker 1: tickets for anybody. Masksware Garden is all you know, it's

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00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: always our biggest show. And the two best heavyweights in

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00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: the world right now are Sergey Pavlovich and Tom Aspinall Right,

1305
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: if you don't want to take it from me, that's fine, right,

1306
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: But with respect to John Jones, these are the two

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00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: guys that are in camp that are training to be

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00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: the best heavyweights in the world, that are in their

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00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: primer getting close to it, that are primal, that want

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00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: to fight regularly, and instead we got this super fight

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00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: that seemingly is holding things up. So like, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: upset like everybody else that the fight went away, And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess I'd like Tommy Aspinall to have more time

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01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: to prepare, But you don't think Aspitall was maybe preparing

1315
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Speaker 1: with one eye towards this date, Like these are the

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01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: two best heavyweights in the world right now and they're

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Speaker 1: fighting at Madison Square Garden and I can't fucking wait

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Speaker 1: to go.

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Speaker 7: Oh.

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Speaker 2: I'd also say that I wouldn't be surprised.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if the winner of that fight

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Speaker 4: is the one that gets that next shot against John

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Speaker 4: Jones if he returns, Right, I mean, I think you're

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01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 4: likely perhaps Steve a Miachic, Right. It's like, especially with

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01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 4: Aspaal and everything he's done, I think he's kind of

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01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 4: one of those guys that are a lot of people

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Speaker 4: myself included you as perhaps that new breed, that new

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01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 4: generation of mixed martial arts heavyweight that really can do

1329
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 4: it all and do it. Well, so, uh, this is

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Speaker 4: this is still a very very exciting and intriguing fight.

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Speaker 7: Well, hold on, say what's the point of the interim belt?

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Speaker 1: Well that I don't really know. Well, I think they

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Speaker 1: hold out hope.

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Speaker 7: That maybe hold on John, you're saying that, serge A, say,

1335
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 7: whoever wins that fight isn't fighting John Jones next.

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Speaker 5: They're going to give it to steep I mean, so

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01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 5: what's the point of the belt.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's where I think there is a little bit

1339
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: of gray area. If John Jones's timeline is eight or

1340
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: ten months, right, I mean, do we really think that

1341
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: we're going to see John Jones before International Fight Week

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01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. I just don't see, right. So in

1343
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: that scenario, you would then have an interim champion that

1344
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: would have already been idle for six or seven or

1345
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: eight months. It just doesn't work that way. But steep

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01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: A seemingly maybe wanted to stay on this state and

1347
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: was not afforded that opportunity by the UFC because they

1348
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: didn't want to give him, you know, insultingly or otherwise

1349
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: a shot at an interim belt as the consensus greatest

1350
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: UFC heavyweight of all time. So Yeah, Ray, I don't

1351
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: have a great answer like I do. Think it stands

1352
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: to reason that we never see John Jones and Steepe

1353
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: inside the octagon together, you know, I mean, you're not

1354
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: going to shelve the winner here for a year, Hey.

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Speaker 7: John, the insulting thing isn't going. That's not.

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Speaker 5: I'm not buying that. The guy's been They've insulted Steepe

1357
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 5: about one hundred times. I not worried about insulting them.

1358
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 5: He didn't even put the belt on in one fight.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

1360
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Speaker 5: They don't want to in a good point. I mean,

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01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 5: I'm not by who the hell's buying that.

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Speaker 2: But Kenny, let me ask you this. No, that's a

1363
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 2: fair point.

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01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 7: No, No, I love it.

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01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 5: I like everybody like this isn't if we're gonna shoot

1366
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 5: from the hip, we got to shoot from the hip.

1367
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 7: I don't. I don't know, But insulting Steepe, I'm.

1368
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 2: Sure that I would know. I think.

1369
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: No, And that's a great point. And I was just

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01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: presenting Dana's side, and Dana's quick right, But Kenny, let

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01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: me ask you this, right. And Ray is very much

1372
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: embedded with Steve A and everybody who I talked to

1373
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: about the step A John Jones betting line on Drafting

1374
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: Sports Book. I was saying to everybody at UFC two

1375
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: ninety four and Abu Dhabi, is steep A not a

1376
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: live underdog here? Like we know he's been training, we

1377
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: don't necessarily know exactly what John Jones's training camp has held.

1378
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: And people are looking at me like, dude, step A

1379
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: hasn't fought since he's thirty eight years old. Like everybody

1380
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: who I talked to about that fight Kenny told me

1381
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: that they felt like John Joe was going to finish

1382
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: steep A, and I felt like there was value on Steepe.

1383
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: So do you feel like a John Jones Tom Aspinall

1384
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: fight in twenty twenty three is more competitive and gets

1385
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: you more excited?

1386
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 2: Or no?

1387
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: Because of Stevepe's legendary status.

1388
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 2: I think so.

1389
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 4: I think at this stage of the game, it's probably

1390
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 4: more competitive now.

1391
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 2: It's not to say that Steve a.

1392
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 4: Miac just can't win this fight, because you cannot doubt

1393
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 4: someone with that level of experience. I mean, he's been

1394
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 4: an athlete his whole life, and yeah, he hasn't competed

1395
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 4: in a while, But you think that's just gonna get

1396
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 4: turned off just like that.

1397
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 2: No, I don't believe.

1398
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 4: So the guy is, you know, cut from a different

1399
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 4: cloth John Anick. No, but he mentally he's so he's

1400
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 4: so tough. We've seen it time and tom again. He

1401
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 4: can wrestle, he gets stry, he can do There's a

1402
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 4: ton of skills that he brings into the octagon that

1403
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 4: makes him an absolute threat to someone like John Jones.

1404
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 4: But aspinall, I think you're talking about guy much earlier

1405
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 4: in his career. Right he hasn't had the wars that

1406
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 4: A step A Mitchich has had, you know, hasn't had

1407
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 4: as many injuries, even though he you know, had that

1408
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 4: knee injury and things like that. So I think that

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01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 4: he's just a fresher guy right now at this stage

1410
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 4: of the game. I also think he he brings in

1411
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 4: some skills that Steve Ay doesn't have.

1412
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 2: You know, this guy has I think.

1413
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 4: Even more firepower than step A Mitchich has at this

1414
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 4: stage of the game.

1415
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, And I'll tell you like this thing,

1416
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 5: whoever wins the interim belt, they're gonna want to fight

1417
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 5: in a couple of months.

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01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 7: What do you do with that? Then there's another interium

1419
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 7: belt fight.

1420
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 2: No, I think he would probably do you. Yeah, it's tricky, Ray,

1421
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 2: I mean, they.

1422
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 7: Got guy's a year away from fighting, say ten months,

1423
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 7: nine months. This guy wins tomorrow, he wins in a

1424
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 7: couple of weeks, he wants to fight in three months.

1425
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 7: What do you do, We're having another interiom title fight.

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01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 6: No.

1427
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: I think what you would do is that interim champion

1428
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: would then be the backup for Jones and Steve Bay

1429
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: and he's got to wait you well, No, I know,

1430
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: it's a tricky thing. It's a tricky thing. That's why

1431
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: I would have had John Jones vacate.

1432
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 2: But then you can't.

1433
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: But then you're not preserving the chance of keeping Jones

1434
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: and steep A together as a title fight, right, you

1435
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: take that title fight away, because then the champion is

1436
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: no longer John Jones, and John Jones now becomes the

1437
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: blue corner guy against aspinall Er Pavlovitch. But uh, let

1438
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: me just get you out of here with this, Ray. Yeah,

1439
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: what's your dog's name?

1440
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 2: Lucky?

1441
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 7: Lucky?

1442
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 3: Lucky?

1443
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 7: All right? Don't make me safe. She'll be coming in

1444
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 7: the room. Holy all right.

1445
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: So to save Lucky's life, you get to send one

1446
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: heavyweight in there to beat John Jones. To save your

1447
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: dog's life, you send in Sergey Pavlovitch, Tom Askitall or

1448
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: a forty one year old Steeve a Michich. Which heavyweight

1449
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: you send it in?

1450
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 5: Uh, I'm sending in Steepe even at this stage of

1451
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 5: the game.

1452
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: I thought he had a great chance to beat JN. Jones,

1453
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 1: and everyone disagree with me. I'm not trying to take

1454
01:05:58,920 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: shots of the.

1455
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 5: Guy because I think I think he's always in the gym,

1456
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 5: and I think, like what Kenny says, it's not going away,

1457
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 5: and he can wrestle.

1458
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 7: That could pose a problem at a bigger, you know weight.

1459
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 7: You have to see. I'm curious to see how the

1460
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 7: wrestling exchanges go. And I think, you know, the only

1461
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 7: negative thing could be maybe Steve A's chin a little bit.

1462
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 7: But besides that, I think he's good to go in

1463
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 7: my opinion. So I'm sending Steep and to send my

1464
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 7: dog's life, and I feel very very comfortable that Lucky

1465
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 7: You'll be living.

1466
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 2: I like, thank you.

1467
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: No, I really think Stevee's last fight, he's going to

1468
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: be competitive. I think people are really worried about the chin,

1469
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: and you kind of alluded to that if you want

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Speaker 1: I mean like, if the Ray Longo Minute T shirt

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Speaker 1: is the top seller at the end of twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: I'll do some sort of stupid I'll like wax my

1478
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Speaker 1: legs on the air or something.

1479
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Speaker 5: Okay, can I get representation? Anybody out there wants to

1480
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 5: represent missing a gold mine? You're missing that on a gold.

1481
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Speaker 1: But let's go if you are an MMA manager, Markel

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Speaker 1: Martin or anybody else at Ray long and let's get

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Speaker 1: this guy representation by next week. Hey, Ray, have a

1484
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: great day and a better evening. We'll talk to you

1485
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: next Monday.

1486
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Speaker 7: You guys are the best. I'll see you next week.

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Speaker 1: Take it here right, all and good fun the Ray

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Speaker 1: long committed every week here on the anak in Florian

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Speaker 1: Podcast Sergey Pavlovich and Tom Aspinall is a very exciting fight.

1490
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Speaker 1: I think certainly some of the circumstances, Kenny are suboptimal, right,

1491
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: But I'm really not being anything more than myself here

1492
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: in this context as an MMA fan, Like, can you

1493
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: understand why I want to see those two guys fight

1494
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: as opposed to maybe the two Hall of Fame legends

1495
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: who are long in the tooth, right, Like, are people

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Speaker 1: really going to want to sell their tickets back because

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Speaker 1: I'll fucking buy them, right, Yeah, I'm listening.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm really curious to see the approach of

1499
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 4: Aspinall in this fight against some like Pavlovich, who gets

1500
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 4: off to such a great start every single time. He's

1501
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 4: an absolute savage in round one, so he has to

1502
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 4: be really careful. But I'm really curiously does does he grapple?

1503
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 4: Does he strike with him? Does he try to keep

1504
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 4: the distance, you know, look for takedowns late in the round?

1505
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 2: You know?

1506
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 4: So I think there's a lot of different approaches that

1507
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 4: Aspinall can have in this site. I think for Pavlovich,

1508
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 4: he's going to look for your head, as simple as that.

1509
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: So I'm curious to see how he adjusts.

1510
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 4: And what his grappling is like against someone like Aspinall

1511
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 4: but still a great fight man, exciting, exciting stuff, and.

1512
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what this would do to the pay

1513
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 1: per view, right, I mean, the main event is still

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01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: Alex Podta and Uri Prohasca, which on paper is about

1515
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 1: as good a fight as we can put together. So

1516
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 1: that's your new look UFC two ninety five, and we

1517
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: wish John Jones a speedy, expeditious recovery and I do

1518
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: hope that they can put that fight together. But time

1519
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 1: waits for no man in July two thous twenty four.

1520
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: Actually sounds ambitious as we sit here coming up on

1521
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: the first of November twenty twenty three, with Johnny Bone

1522
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 1: still in a sling having undergone the night. All right,

1523
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: we got to spend this thing forward. UFC Fight Night

1524
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: Almeta versus lewis coming up Saturday from South Pollo, Brazil.

1525
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 2: Let us get to the main event challenge.

1526
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 6: It's the main event challenge and the time is most

1527
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 6: How do you everything possible to win the main event challenge?

1528
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 6: John Hennick and Kenny Florian podcast.

1529
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 2: There he is.

1530
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 3: What's what's up boys?

1531
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: Brian Petrie with us here on the Anaican Florian podcast

1532
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 1: at Brian Petrie Mma. It's good to see after a

1533
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: week off. My man, man, I missed you guys.

1534
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 3: I need this, I need this I miss you. Kenny

1535
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,639
Speaker 3: looks great. John, you got the tickler on the lip man,

1536
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 3: I'm ready. I'm ready to do it.

1537
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, tickler comes off on Wednesday. We'll go full beard again.

1538
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: Just doing this for Luigi. My son's Mario and I'm

1539
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: Luigi and getting all decked out. So I know you

1540
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: share my enthusiasm for Sergey Pavlovich and Tom Aspinall. I

1541
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 1: don't think any of us knows acutely what Tom Aspinall

1542
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 1: has been doing, but bro, like, this is an enormous

1543
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: dream heavyweight matchup, and since this is the fight that

1544
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: we have curious to get your two cents on it.

1545
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's a better fight. I mean,

1546
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 3: I know it's not the name value, but as an

1547
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 3: as a hardcore may fan who cares about who the

1548
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 3: fighters are coming up, tom Aswall, Sergey Pablots, they're there.

1549
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 3: They're the next up, right. I know, John Jones, John

1550
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 3: Jones DPE's my Ohio guy, but these two dudes are

1551
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 3: fucking real deal. They were gonna fight for a title,

1552
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 3: they were going to cross paths. The only thing that's

1553
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 3: kind of mucking up is everyone's getting hung up on

1554
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 3: the interim title or whatever like that. I think that's just,

1555
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 3: you know, that's just a way to going, like, hey,

1556
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 3: let's throw a beat on one of these guys because

1557
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 3: John's out. You know, you guys already talked about it

1558
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 3: with Ray. I was in the back listening. Obviously, stripping

1559
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 3: Jones would probably be make the most sense, but then

1560
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 3: you potentially lose the DPA fight. It's muddy waters. I'm

1561
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 3: I'm glad, I'm not making these decisions. I'm just glad

1562
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 3: I get to watch the fight November eleven, and I

1563
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 3: think it's it's insane. I mean, I'm high on Tommy

1564
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 3: aspital I was a little lukewarm on pavlovich Me debut

1565
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 3: he dropped that l but ever since then he's just

1566
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 3: been knocking everyone out. So I can't wait. Man.

1567
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,759
Speaker 1: Tom Aspinal did open a slight favorite on DraftKings Sportsbook

1568
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: minus one thirty five. I believe the comeback on Pavlovich

1569
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: was plus one fourteen. Our executive producer Cody Meer will

1570
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: get us an updated line here as we go through

1571
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 1: the main event challenge. Last thing I'll just say on

1572
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: John Jones, I feel like it was ambitious to suggest

1573
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: that he was going to be able to compete in

1574
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: March and then again in November after taking three years

1575
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 1: off and just was going to believe it when I

1576
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: saw it, and unfortunately is not going to materialize here

1577
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. So are we have a

1578
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,560
Speaker 1: pronunciation of the week before we get to these elections?

1579
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 2: Still right now?

1580
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: Tommy Aspinaal minus one thirty Sergei Pavlovich plus one ten

1581
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: on Draftking Sportsbook Pronunciation of the Week. This fighter is

1582
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 1: a world class Brazilian jiu jitsu player. Not necessarily that

1583
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 1: hard a name to pronounce.

1584
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 2: What we love here in Brian patrick O Brazilian Portuguese.

1585
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 1: He's a five time b JJ world champion out of

1586
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 1: he O d jon Aio Brazil Brian Petrie.

1587
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 2: He competes this weekend. Who am I talking about?

1588
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 3: So whenever we get a Brazilian name, Portuguese name, and

1589
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 3: there's a lot of eyes and there's a lot of ease,

1590
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 3: you know, I throw a little tang on it. I'm

1591
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 3: gonna try to withstain myself here because I believe his

1592
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:19,480
Speaker 3: name is Rudolpho.

1593
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just trying to not mess up the track

1594
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: in case you go fat. Yeah, I was waiting for that,

1595
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: because that's I mean, that's the best I can do.

1596
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 3: Get better for me, that's the best I can do.

1597
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 1: A Let's let's hear Hudolpho say his name, shall.

1598
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 3: We hodulf Vieda, Hodolf Vieda.

1599
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 2: All right? Not that.

1600
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 1: Hudolpho, Udolpho the Aida right.

1601
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 3: Yea ours of the hs. I always forget that, should.

1602
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 1: I update the standings? Back to back wins for Team Florian,

1603
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: No Ken week for you?

1604
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 2: Out of his eyes. In his own head, he was like,

1605
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1606
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: So for the second successive week, Team Florian gets the

1607
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: better of Team Petrie four and two for Ken Flow

1608
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: plus five hundred dollars at UFC two ninety four that

1609
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: included a three unit trigger on Islama Kashev two unit

1610
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 1: hit on kamzat Chimaya. Brian Petrie managed his money well

1611
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 1: two and four on the week, but he took some

1612
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 1: chances only minus one hundred dollars, and he still has

1613
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: a lead of four thousand, four hundred and seventy dollars

1614
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 1: as we come up on UFC Fight Night, Almeta versus

1615
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 1: Lewis first fight for US main card opener at lightweight

1616
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 1: is my l Bonfieme minus four to forty taken on

1617
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: Vince from hell Paschelle plus three forty, So bon Fiema

1618
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 1: had won thirteen in a row bride before he got

1619
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: face cranked by Ben Wastik and destroyed Saint Denis back

1620
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 1: in July. Still just twenty seven years old. He's the older,

1621
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: though and smaller, of the Bonfien brothers. Here he draws

1622
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 1: the UFC test at Vince Paschelle. He's gonna be forty

1623
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: one in November. Bryeep. A little bit of an uneven

1624
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 1: UFC for Vince Pachelle, marred by injury, but still a

1625
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: tough out, huge number next to the name Vince Pachelle.

1626
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on him here against this my helb on feet.

1627
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 3: Tell you what I've been flip flopping on this fight

1628
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 3: like a fish out of water. Boys, I tell you

1629
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 3: I can't because the number on Vince Pachell. This is

1630
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 3: the most manly man, or at least one of them

1631
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 3: in the UFC. This guy rocks a thick old mustache, right,

1632
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 3: listens to speed metal, hasn't driven a car in years,

1633
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 3: just tries Hardley's and motors like he's a man. Fights

1634
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 3: once a year ish right, grinds people. Not a finisher,

1635
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 3: does it fade away? Hard to put away, and he's

1636
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 3: always surprising. And then you got that big fat number

1637
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 3: on and that plus three fourty You're like, whoa, let

1638
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 3: me take a look at Vince Michelle here. Then you

1639
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 3: got his bumfin who got his arm kicked off by

1640
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 3: ben Want Saint Denis, and that's gonna happen. Ben Want

1641
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 3: denis a stud. My biggest problem with Boonfine was when

1642
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 3: it hit the ground, he looked lost. I think he

1643
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 3: was broken by the kicks. But when he hit the

1644
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 3: ground against ben Want Saint Denis, I'm like, okay, he's

1645
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 3: comfortable here. He just got swarmed and did not look comfortable.

1646
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 3: And then you hit me with the Yannie, the Greek

1647
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 3: stat This is this is, this is how I feel like.

1648
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 3: Yannie breaks down fights thirteen years in age difference. If

1649
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,759
Speaker 3: the age is above nine years or whatever, the younger

1650
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 3: fighter wins eighty something percent of the time. I hate

1651
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 3: the number. I'm gonna play maybe bomb fiend by decision,

1652
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 3: but give me bomb Fiend. I've been flip flopping all

1653
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 3: the time, but I wouldn't be surprised that Vince Vince

1654
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 3: pulls us off here Ken Flow.

1655
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 1: Vince Pachelle has been on the roster dating to the

1656
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: Ultimate Fighters Only Live season back in twenty twelve. He's

1657
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 1: seven and three in the UFC, but he just hasn't

1658
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: been able to compete all that often. Return it here

1659
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 1: for the first time since April of twenty twenty two.

1660
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 1: Ken Flow. You like bond theme or Pieschelle. Yeah, this

1661
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: is an interesting fight. I think that Brian did a

1662
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 1: great breakdown and raised some very interesting questions.

1663
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that this fight is kind of one

1664
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 4: or lost with the wrestling. In my opinion, I do

1665
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 4: think Pischelle has a lot of value. He has a

1666
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 4: lot of experience. Like Brian said, he's a very tough dude,

1667
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 4: and I think that if he can get some top

1668
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 4: position against bomb Feme, I think he can he can

1669
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 4: do some serious damage. I'd also think that on the

1670
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 4: feet it will be interesting to see who gets the

1671
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 4: better who. But it's just hard for me to go

1672
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 4: with Pichot at this stage of the game. I think

1673
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 4: Bomfime I think should get the better of this one.

1674
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 4: But you know, unless I see something differently weigh in

1675
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 4: or something on fight week, I'll stay with Bomfiine.

1676
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: Pachelle aligned with Factory X a couple of years ago

1677
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 1: and could be riding a four fight winning streak. He

1678
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 1: was competitive against Marco Madson, but I got a soft

1679
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:39,640
Speaker 1: spot for Vince Michelle. We'll see what he can do

1680
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 1: as a big hunderdog coming up this weekend, all right.

1681
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: Next up at middleweight the aforementioned hudelfo Vi eight to

1682
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 1: minus one, twelve Arman Petrosian minus one O Waight, so

1683
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,520
Speaker 1: the eight of four and two in the UFC. Petrosian

1684
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 1: the Armenian one of the more underrated guys in the division.

1685
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: I think at least took Christian Leroy duncan Zoe his

1686
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 1: last time out bry On. This fight essentially a pick

1687
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: him on Drafting sportsbook right now.

1688
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 3: You know they call me pick them Petrie in the streets.

1689
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 3: You know they call me that. I hate this pick

1690
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:08,879
Speaker 3: them fight. If I'm being honestly, I have no clue.

1691
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play props here.

1692
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 2: Vieh.

1693
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 3: He is kind of a one trick pony, but he's

1694
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 3: a very good pony, right, He's very good at that.

1695
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 3: He was embarrassed by the anthrownton and his loss. He

1696
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 3: gassed out, got submitted, he rebounded well.

1697
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 2: Thought.

1698
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 3: My guy Chris Curtis shot about sixty hundred times, got

1699
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 3: stuffed every single one. But he needs to trust his

1700
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,600
Speaker 3: hands a little more. I think against Portrojan who's a

1701
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 3: great kicker, he's got some good hands as well. He

1702
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 3: can punch moving backwards. But Pierre's got to trust his

1703
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 3: hands a little more to open up the takedown because

1704
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 3: I think he can land the takedown. He's only got

1705
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 3: twenty six percent takedown accuracy in the ufcvar that is.

1706
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 3: But Petrojian, besides Lee, We're Duncan has been taking out

1707
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 3: multiple times by every single one of his opponents. His

1708
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 3: takedown offences at the week. He's good at getting back up,

1709
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 3: but when you get back up against a guy like there,

1710
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 3: you expose your neck, you exposure back and it's curtained.

1711
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 3: I mean, this guy is deadly down there. He looked

1712
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 3: very good against Cody Brunyans on the ground. Cody Bruns

1713
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 3: is a decent grappler, decent wrestler. He got him down.

1714
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 3: And I always think Vanda is older than he is.

1715
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,600
Speaker 3: He's thirty four, he's strong, He's just shizzled up. Kangaroo

1716
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 3: Jack to the tips. I like this guy. I like

1717
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 3: him here. I think he's gonna win by submission. That's

1718
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play it. But for our game here, I'm

1719
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 3: gonna go uh, I'm gonna go ahead off.

1720
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 2: And it's not a game. Don't get a twisted.

1721
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 3: No, no, We're going bottles.

1722
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 1: Man, it's a real lucky breaking bottles over your head.

1723
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 1: It's it's not a game. Minus one twelve for Adelfo

1724
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 1: Vieighta can flow, Armen Petrosian minus one o eight your thoughts.

1725
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 2: This is interesting, This is very interesting.

1726
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 4: I think that I have yet to see Vienna completely comfortable.

1727
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 2: In the UFC is octagone at this stage of the game.

1728
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 2: That is that is worrisome for me.

1729
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 4: I'm a huge jiu jitsu fan, big fan of Vieira

1730
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 4: and everything he did in the jiu jitsu world. But

1731
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 4: it seems that like his heart rate goes up a

1732
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 4: little bit more before four or five, and these are

1733
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 4: typical things, but I'm not sure he's able to regulate

1734
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 4: it as much as some of the other competitors at

1735
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 4: this stage of like the other guys that have the

1736
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 4: same amount of fights as Vierra has. And to me,

1737
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 4: while I do think that Brian is spot on. If

1738
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 4: this fight goes to the ground, I think he can

1739
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 4: submit anyone in the world, especially if he gets top position.

1740
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 4: I'm not as confident in Vieia in his ground, like

1741
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 4: if he's on.

1742
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 2: His back in his guard game.

1743
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 4: This is one of those guys he could potentially get

1744
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 4: a takedown against and take advantage of it. I think

1745
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 4: a lot of it will be determined in round one.

1746
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 4: I think that if he's able to either get back

1747
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 4: to his feet or stuff a lot of takedowns from

1748
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 4: Viera in round one, I think it's Petrosian's fight.

1749
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:45,600
Speaker 2: But you know, if Vierira is.

1750
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 4: Able to get some confidence going, get some rhythm going

1751
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 4: early in round one, I think then maybe he could

1752
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 4: take control.

1753
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

1754
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 4: Petrojian he's got He's got some upsides. He's very tough,

1755
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 4: he is good at getting back to his feet. He's

1756
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 4: the brother of Giorgio Petruccia and a guy I was

1757
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 4: a big fan of. Yeah, it's kickboxers to ever compete

1758
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 4: in the game. So I think on a striking level,

1759
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 4: he's not quite like Georgio is, but he is very

1760
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 4: dangerous and I think it's enough to certainly give problems

1761
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 4: or even knock out someone like Kudopa Viira. It's very

1762
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 4: rare that it will go against my jiu jitsu brethren.

1763
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 4: I am going to go the opposite way though here

1764
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:20,560
Speaker 4: I'm picking Petrosian.

1765
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:21,679
Speaker 2: This is very close.

1766
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 4: Would love to see Viera get comfortable and have that

1767
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 4: breakout performance, but I'm not sure it happens here against Petrosian.

1768
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 2: Very close lines. I think there's value here on the Armenian.

1769
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 1: Nicely done ken flow back in the Armenian there and

1770
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 1: the only guy to beat Petrosian in the UFC thus far.

1771
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: Competing in our next matchup, Kyo Bohalio modus two fifty

1772
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 1: taking on a boost Mago metof who comes back plus

1773
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 1: two to h five. Sao Luis Marano's Boholio? Is that

1774
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 1: how you pronounced that? I looked it up earlier today,

1775
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 1: Sao Luis Marano. I think that's close enough anyway. It

1776
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 1: looks like a future tender to me. What a body

1777
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 1: on this middleweight flourid o in the UFC bry and

1778
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: now fighting a guy with a ton of experience in

1779
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 1: a Boos Smago medalf of course headline against the now

1780
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 1: champion Shawn Strickland back on July first, Bojlio minus two fifty.

1781
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: Some thought maybe it'd be a little bit higher. Your

1782
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 1: thoughts on hip here against boost Smago medal.

1783
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 3: I always start when my behalo breakdowns by making fun

1784
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 3: of the fact that he comes from the fight nerds,

1785
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 3: because he's a good looking guy with a neck tattoo, right,

1786
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:28,839
Speaker 3: But it's all the mental. That team is really growing

1787
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 3: and I see a lot of Brazilian fighters coming out

1788
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 3: of there, and this guy's confidence is affectionists and his

1789
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 3: skills are really shining here. I love the number on here.

1790
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 3: I think of Boosmga Madoff is a little I don't

1791
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 3: want to say fraudulent, but there's some questions.

1792
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 2: Right.

1793
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 3: He got knocked up by Lewis Taylor in the very

1794
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 3: first one hundred seventy pounds PFL finale, lost out a

1795
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 3: million bucks and kind of disappeared and then popped up

1796
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 3: on the UFC radar against Stole Flutes at one hundred

1797
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 3: and eighty five pounds. Obviously he lose to Sean Stricklands,

1798
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 3: who maybe I'm overacting. That's the champion right there. He

1799
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 3: got broken down card it wasn't there, but I think

1800
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,600
Speaker 3: Boholow is just the better fighter everywhere. I think his

1801
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 3: striking is is a little patient for me. I wish

1802
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 3: he would add a little more because he's a big,

1803
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 3: thick kid, but his straight punches are great on the grounds.

1804
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 3: Grade him on tops grade. I think a boost is

1805
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 3: gonna probably have some problems here, and I think Boholo

1806
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 3: is gonna finish and I like three units on it

1807
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 3: as well. Give me the fight, NERD, give me Bohilo.

1808
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 3: I think he gets a finish here. I'm going heavy

1809
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 3: this week on this one.

1810
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 1: Very interesting night in the middleweight division. What do you

1811
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 1: think Ken Flow Kyo Bohalio Monus two fifty A boost

1812
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: Maggo Meta plus two oh five.

1813
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is a very interesting fight. I

1814
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 4: think that Boholio is the guy that looks very comfortable

1815
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,560
Speaker 4: in the cage. He does not have the grappling or

1816
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 4: jiu JITs credentials of someone like Judolfo Vieira, yet he

1817
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 4: looks way better on the ground or way more comfortable.

1818
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 4: So again, a lot of this is is a mental game,

1819
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:55,759
Speaker 4: and I think that the mental game of Boholio, as

1820
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 4: Brian Patrio Elite alluded to, it's very strong.

1821
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:01,719
Speaker 2: I think he's a smart fighter.

1822
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 4: He knows how to integrate his striking without compromising himself.

1823
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:07,839
Speaker 2: Right, you don't see him get hurt too often.

1824
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,719
Speaker 4: He's a very smart fighter on the feet, on the ground,

1825
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 4: just knows how to put it all together. I think

1826
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 4: Maga Medoff is still very dangerous. We saw that in

1827
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 4: round one against Sean Strickler, so he's got a lot

1828
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 4: of weapons. His kicking game is phenomenal. I think it

1829
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 4: could potentially pose some problems to Boholio, but I don't

1830
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 4: think it's enough of a problem for Boholio. I think

1831
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 4: Bojolio knows how to just you will find a way

1832
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 4: to be successful on the feet and on the ground.

1833
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 2: I like Boholio here as well. I'm a little.

1834
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 4: Hesitant putting, you know, three units. I think it's probably

1835
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 4: a smart play by Brian. I'm not gonna copy here,

1836
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 4: but I like Boholio here as well.

1837
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 1: All right, both guys like Kyo Boholio. And with that

1838
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: we get to a featured bount and heavyweight division Handrigo

1839
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 1: Nasimento minus one eighty taken on Dantel May's plus one

1840
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 1: point fifty, so Nazimento has won back to back, split

1841
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: the decisions over Tanner Boser and Ali Latifi. He actually

1842
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 1: submitted Dantell Mays at his UFC debut during the COVID

1843
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 1: nineteen pandemic. That was May sixteenth, twenty twenty. So this

1844
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 1: is a rematch and May's will try to exact some

1845
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: revenge here. Lord Kong coming off the biggest win of

1846
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 1: his career bry stopping Javondre Rolowski back on June third.

1847
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on him plus one fifty this weekend.

1848
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, the loose cannon Louisville. Dantell Mays, this guy needs

1849
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 3: to get back to what made him great. I mean, listen,

1850
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 3: I've talked about him before. I saw him fight at

1851
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 3: a lower promotion in Kentucky and people were afraid of

1852
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 3: this guy. Right, he's knocking people dead. Obviously, he's rounding

1853
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 3: his game out. He's been d one Dantell. He's been

1854
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 3: wrestling a little bit and grappling. He was the guy

1855
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 3: that kind of hurt John Jones on that takedown. Let's

1856
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 3: not I don't think it's Don Delle's fault, but he's

1857
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 3: obviously working with some heavyweights that can't let John Jones

1858
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 3: put together in New Mexico is just full of heavy Lwaldayres,

1859
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 3: John Jones, Dontor Mayes, and Donte Mayes has gotting gotten

1860
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 3: better for it. But I don't love how he fights

1861
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 3: on the feet. Sometimes he takes away sixty six, he

1862
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 3: takes away his reach. He's hunched over lot of times.

1863
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,799
Speaker 3: Maybe he's worried about the takedown. I think that's hopefully

1864
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 3: fixed now, Hopefully he fights a little more upright, uses

1865
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 3: his reach us his hands. He's clearly got power, not

1866
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 3: a lot of volume, but there's power there. And then

1867
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 3: Simento is a guy who's just overachieved. In my opinion,

1868
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 3: I've never been super high on him, but he just

1869
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 3: wins and he squeaks out performances. And since is in Brazil,

1870
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 3: I think this is gonna be a close fight. I

1871
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 3: think the crowd's gonna be shouting at Dantel. I think

1872
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 3: this is gonna maybe get in his head a little bit.

1873
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 3: Obviously he's already lost this guy before. I don't love it.

1874
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 3: This is usually a spot where I would take on

1875
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 3: a dog, especially at a heavyweight spot here, but I'm

1876
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 3: gonna go Nacimento. I just think he has his number here,

1877
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 3: But hopefully Dantell gets a little aggressive because I think

1878
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 3: that will do him a whole lot of good.

1879
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: Can flow two of the top sixty heavyweights in the world.

1880
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 1: Dantel mays Hadrigo Nacimento, who do you like?

1881
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a tricky one. You know, it's hard

1882
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 4: to have a tremendous amount of confidence and it consistency

1883
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 4: of both of these guys.

1884
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 2: But I think that's what it kind of comes down to.

1885
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 4: If I'm looking for consistency, I'm gonna lean towards Nasi

1886
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 4: man to a little bit more, and I'd like to

1887
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 4: put some units on it.

1888
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 2: I do think it being in Brazil will be a factor.

1889
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 4: I think that Dawntel maybe has more potential to win

1890
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 4: by a finish, but Nacimento has is more likely to

1891
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 4: be more consistent and winning decision.

1892
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 2: So give me Nacimento here with three units. Hey, oh nice?

1893
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 2: All right?

1894
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 1: That brings us to the comin evented Welter wait. It

1895
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:28,839
Speaker 1: features the younger bond theme Gabriel Bonfeme minus five thirty

1896
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,679
Speaker 1: five deacon On Nicholas Dalby, who is plus four hundred

1897
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:36,839
Speaker 1: twelfth UFC appairs for Delby. One is last three by decision. Actually,

1898
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 1: all of Dlby's UFC fights, spanning his two UFC stints

1899
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 1: have gone the distance except one against Jesse Ronson. On

1900
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: the other side, bond Theme is a bona fide finisher,

1901
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 1: not a decision guy. Back to back submission wins for

1902
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: him over Moon Near lezz and Trevin Giles give him

1903
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 1: a dozen for his career. A lot of people say

1904
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: Brian for sure, future contender, if not world title challenger,

1905
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 1: if not world sham being good test for him here

1906
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 1: seemingly and the durable Nicholas delbypp your thoughts.

1907
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 3: That number is a spicy meat, Paul Man, I don't

1908
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,919
Speaker 3: know if I can swallow that. That is a high number.

1909
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 3: On bombfree his last four of his five fights all

1910
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 3: ended in the first round. The one thing I know

1911
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 3: about Nicholas Darby the Danish dynamite. You don't put him

1912
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 3: out unless you're Jesse Raunchin with a lot of needles

1913
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 3: in here. But allegedly all.

1914
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 2: They overturned it. They overturned it.

1915
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 3: But he doesn't get finished. This is the guy who

1916
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 3: had a fight stopped in the UK because there was

1917
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 3: too bloody, Like we got to call this. You guys

1918
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 3: are slipping on over place. This guy is a war horse.

1919
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 3: He's a grinder. He's not overly skilled anywhere. He's awkward

1920
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 3: on the feet. It's very hirky jerky. It's hard to

1921
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 3: get a rhythm on him. He can take you down

1922
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:42,799
Speaker 3: if he wants off his back. He's not the strongest,

1923
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 3: but bomfiend loves a guillotine choke. You gotta be careful

1924
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 3: with that. But if it gets out around one, which

1925
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 3: you know, I think bombfie By submission round one is

1926
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 3: a good play for anybody to cut that number down

1927
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 3: a little bit. But if he gets out of around one,

1928
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 3: lookout for Nicholas Dobby to make this an interesting fight

1929
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 3: because this guy doesn't go away to carry for He's

1930
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 3: a good sized guy at win seventy and Bombby hasn't

1931
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 3: been pushed in his last five fights. I want to

1932
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 3: see a guy get pushed here. He's in Brazil. He

1933
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 3: is highly prospect. You know, everyone talk about him. I

1934
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 3: think he's a great problem. But you're running into a

1935
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 3: guy like Dolby. Same thing as Darren til didn't he

1936
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 3: use UFC debut or Ni's debut. He ran into Delby.

1937
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:20,719
Speaker 3: They went to a draw, right, This was a highly

1938
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 3: touted guy. This is a guy that doesn't get put

1939
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 3: out much, and you're giving me a big number. Give

1940
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 3: me Nicholas Darby is a dog here, babe. Plus four

1941
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 3: twenty five is insaying to me four to one on

1942
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:33,679
Speaker 3: my money, I'm taking it all day. Give me dolby

1943
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 3: By decision as well is a good play.

1944
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: All right, had an inkling one of you might see

1945
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 1: some value on Nicholas Dolby. This gabrielp on theme though

1946
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 1: Ken float. There's just something about watching this dude compete,

1947
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 1: the way he carries himself when not in competition. We

1948
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 1: talk so much about Shotcott rock Bottov, but he and

1949
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: mashadeo'gary and all of these young welterweights, Stude might end

1950
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 1: up being the best of the bunch. Obviously, Vegas and

1951
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:57,599
Speaker 1: the odds makers are paying attention your thoughts on him

1952
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 1: here prohibitively favored, Some might say minus five thirty five

1953
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 1: against Nicholas Delby.

1954
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I think it's it's inflated. I'm with Brian here.

1955
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 4: I think that Gabriel is a very good fighter. I

1956
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 4: like what he says after the fight as well. He's

1957
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 4: always looking to evolve every time he says I'm going

1958
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 4: to be better and better. I think he's a better

1959
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 4: fighter everywhere than Dalby. Though, However, I do think he's

1960
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 4: going to experience what a fight is in the UFC

1961
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 4: when you face someone like Dalby, and you know, when

1962
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 4: things get tough, that's when we find out if they're

1963
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 4: a real fighter or not. So I'm really curious to

1964
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 4: see if we do see that. Perhaps though bump Fim

1965
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 4: is just that good where he doesn't make it the fight,

1966
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:38,680
Speaker 4: he just controls it and guides, you know, guides it

1967
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:39,719
Speaker 4: his way the whole way.

1968
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 2: But you know it's a little inflated. Dalby is someone.

1969
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 4: That you need to respect and train very very hard for.

1970
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 4: Am I gonna go that way?

1971
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:52,600
Speaker 2: No, not quite. I'm with the Brazilian bomb theme. I

1972
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 2: think he does get it done.

1973
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 4: But what a win it would be if if Brian

1974
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,759
Speaker 4: is successful, and to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised.

1975
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 4: I think there's still more I'd like to know about

1976
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 4: bum theme, but I'm willing to trust that he is

1977
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 4: the better fighter here and get it done.

1978
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 1: And once the calendar spins to November, maybe you see

1979
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 1: some hail Mary's out of ken flow.

1980
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 2: I kind of thought he might go five moon.

1981
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 1: He's on bond follows right, six one hundred dollars swing

1982
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 1: there potentially could be useful, all right, main event Salvador,

1983
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 1: but he at Brazil's Jaiilton Almeidam on his four fifty

1984
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 1: five the black besteric Lewis's plus three fifty. Lewis will

1985
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 1: gladly step up and step in for that show money

1986
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 1: as he replaces Curtis Razor Blades here against one of

1987
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 1: the boogeymen of the heavyweight division, Jaiilton Almeta. Once again

1988
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:36,680
Speaker 1: a huge betting favorite here, Brian, He's five to zero

1989
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,600
Speaker 1: in the UFC thus far, with as many finishes, A

1990
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 1: lot of pundits and handicappers expect him to find a

1991
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 1: finish here inside of ten minutes, at least those that

1992
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 1: I have talked to thus far. What are your thoughts

1993
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 1: on the South Pallo main event and ultimately on which

1994
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:50,560
Speaker 1: side default.

1995
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:53,080
Speaker 3: It's jail time man, jail man is common in it's

1996
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 3: jail time. I cannot pick a Derek Lewis fight right.

1997
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:58,600
Speaker 3: I mean, you can go check the tape, check to

1998
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 3: the seats. I can't get guy right. He knocks you dead.

1999
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know what it is. The one

2000
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 3: thing is is when you're looking at Johnson, I made

2001
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 3: a fight his last four fights. He is shot within

2002
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 3: ten seconds. He gets the fight to the ground within

2003
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 3: ten seconds. He doesn't fuck around the stand up. You

2004
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 3: run into an upper cut with Derek Lewis. You know

2005
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 3: early where he is. He is very quick with that uppercut.

2006
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 3: That's Curtis blades. That's a problem. I don't think Johnson's

2007
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 3: gonna do that though. I think he's gonna keep his

2008
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 3: head on the outside. I think he's gonna do the

2009
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 3: right things and he gets Derek Lewis down. Derek Lewis,

2010
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 3: there's a popular meme like, hey, I just stand up.

2011
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 3: Jiu jitsu doesn't work. I just stand up. Well, when

2012
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 3: you get this beast on top of you, it's gonna work. Johnson.

2013
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 3: I made it as a guy who john I've said

2014
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 3: this before in this podcast. I don't text you when

2015
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 3: you're working is. I don't want to bother you. I

2016
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 3: text you after park a Porter fight. It was like

2017
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:45,719
Speaker 3: this fucking guy man, Yeah, and you're just like, Wow,

2018
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:48,600
Speaker 3: this is the guy who wasn't supposed to be heavyweight, right, ah,

2019
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 3: he's a two o five or he's like no, no, no,

2020
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 3: he's he's in the new breed heavyweight athletics strong. Obviously,

2021
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 3: there's some question marks on the feet. Can he take

2022
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 3: a shot? He has been knocked out before early in

2023
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 3: his MMA career, soviously there's some punits out there that they're like, oh,

2024
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 3: if Derek Lewis lands on him, sure, Derek Luds lands

2025
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 3: on anybody. But I think Johnson Amida gets him down

2026
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 3: and and now I'm just trying to decide what it's

2027
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 3: gonna be a TK or subision because Johnson Amida sometimes

2028
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 3: gets a little too stagnant on top. He doesn't like

2029
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 3: the land strikes because he wants to set up that

2030
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 3: perfect submission. I don't think you're heading arm had an

2031
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:22,760
Speaker 3: arm and Derek Lewis with the sized neck and arms

2032
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 3: that guy's got. I think it's gonna be real naked

2033
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:26,759
Speaker 3: choke or maybe a t K. O. Give me Johnson

2034
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:30,680
Speaker 3: Amada first round stoppage win. That's a great money. Give

2035
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 3: me Johnson Amida at minus four ten, I think it's

2036
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:34,639
Speaker 3: a steal. Give me two extra units on him as.

2037
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 1: Well, all right, you Lton Almeida minus four fifty five

2038
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 1: or minus four ten, whatever your price. It is steep

2039
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 1: bunch a Yelton Almeida, but he's cashed every UFC ticket

2040
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 1: thus far. So Derek Lewis, as we mentioned, stepping in

2041
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:50,679
Speaker 1: for Curtis Blades, and can I just say if Curtis

2042
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 1: Blades right or UFC wins combined than Sergey Pavlovich and

2043
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 1: Tom aspinall right twelve UFC wins, seven made events for

2044
01:32:57,200 --> 01:33:01,639
Speaker 1: Curtis Blades, He's accepted fights again Sergey Pavlovitch, Tom aspinall

2045
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 1: and Jai Yielton al Mata right, all the tough guys.

2046
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 1: Right has the head to head win over Aspenal, but

2047
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 1: obviously the recent loss to Sergey Pavlovich, Curtis Blades has

2048
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 1: never fought for a belt, and now those two guys

2049
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:12,759
Speaker 1: are get to fight for a belt. So we shout

2050
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 1: out Curtis Blades, but it will be the Black Beast

2051
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: and Kennedy is coming off that, you know, career continuing

2052
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:22,679
Speaker 1: thirty three second stoppage of marcos Sojerio pez out Alema

2053
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 1: that was in July at UFC two ninety one had

2054
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 1: lost three straight going in. What do you make of

2055
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,639
Speaker 1: Derek Lewis here on the road against Jai Yielton now made.

2056
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:30,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2057
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 4: I mean, Derek Lewis is a tough guy to count out,

2058
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 4: just because he always has that knockout power.

2059
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 2: And he's just sneaky fast, sneaky athletic. I think a

2060
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 2: lot of times.

2061
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:42,760
Speaker 4: However, you know, the big knock on him is the grappling, right,

2062
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:45,640
Speaker 4: and that's something that he hasn't quite been able to

2063
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 4: get better at significantly anyway. That's the toughest thing I

2064
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 4: think for any fighter to get better at. And I

2065
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 4: do think he's going to end up on his back

2066
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:58,679
Speaker 4: in this fight. How safely he gets back to his feet,

2067
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 4: I don't know not to say that Gileton Almeida is

2068
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 4: this takedown machine. I don't think he's the most technical guy.

2069
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 4: He's not this American wrestler that you know, once he

2070
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 4: gets hold of you're gonna be on your back. He's

2071
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:14,639
Speaker 4: not quite like that. But I think he's athletic enough

2072
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 4: to get it done. And I think he's athletic enough

2073
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,760
Speaker 4: to get Derek Lewis on the ground and win, like

2074
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 4: Brian said, by TKO or submission. And for Derek that's

2075
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 4: always been a vulnerability. I think that you'd be crazy

2076
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:30,719
Speaker 4: to stand up and trade with someone like Derek Lewis.

2077
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 4: And while I do think Almeida has some decent striking,

2078
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 4: it's nothing to write home about. So he's got to

2079
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 4: be careful there. He's got to be safe when he

2080
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 4: enters into those legs or clinch whatever. However he decides

2081
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 4: to put Derek Lewis on his back, he needs to

2082
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 4: do that, and so I think he gets it done.

2083
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 4: I'll put two units on al Meida. I don't get

2084
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 4: left behind too much.

2085
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 1: Give me all maida here bye, A couple of unis

2086
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:59,520
Speaker 1: on Jai Yilton Almeta. We will see where the line closes.

2087
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 1: Brian Petrie outstanding job as usual on the main event

2088
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 1: Challenge My Brother. You can get more from Petrie on

2089
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 1: his own podcast, The MMA Takes Podcast. Cincinnati Bengals, Big Way. Well,

2090
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 1: you got a three play, you got one back? I

2091
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 1: got two little things here prelim play. Elvis Brenner. I

2092
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:16,840
Speaker 1: think that kid's a stud against that's a boon Reva bitch.

2093
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 1: And this is a great card on top to bottom.

2094
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:20,599
Speaker 1: Could give me Brenner a low number. And I want

2095
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:23,679
Speaker 1: to shout out Chris Curtis. He had his baby boy.

2096
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 1: He's beautiful. He's not gonna post on social media or

2097
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 1: anything like that, but I wanted to give him a

2098
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 1: shout out.

2099
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 3: Mom's doing well, he's doing great, he's elated to have

2100
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 3: a kid, and he's got a fight booked in January.

2101
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 1: So shout out to my guy, Chris Curtis. That's a

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01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:37,760
Speaker 1: nice boys, and that's some breaking news on the Action Man,

2103
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 1: the King of Combat.

2104
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Speaker 2: Chris Curtis.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a father for the first time like

2106
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 1: twenty five years ago, so now he's got.

2107
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 2: To feel a lot different. Brid will talk to you

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Speaker 2: next week. Brother.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it you boys. You treat with us for the

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Speaker 1: main event Challenge. He'll be back next week as we

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Speaker 1: Hoska Versus Padeta. All right, we got to pounce on

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Speaker 1: Thank you to very long go to Brian Petrie. Our

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Speaker 1: executive producer is Cody Merrow. And don't forget. We're back

2122
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Speaker 1: either Wednesday or Thursday. As we go one on one

2123
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Speaker 1: so to speak with Eric Nixic after Francis and Gano's

2124
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Speaker 1: big performance in Saudi Arabia with African Flum John and

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Speaker 2: Until then you'll fuckingly I can show her down the bluff.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, every time I got at birth up breaking these

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Speaker 9: three commandment kind of like you do because I never

2130
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Speaker 9: planned How'm I planned it?

2131
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Speaker 6: Say?

2132
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Speaker 9: Look wait then make the pats look like the only

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Speaker 9: ranches the boy you the.

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Speaker 2: Only color on the CAMPI And then I don't.

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Speaker 9: Mean if like you can get got to be in

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Speaker 9: Shanks stym hip hop. You got it every time you

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Speaker 9: walk in the label the a US like nody immun

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Speaker 9: leadership because a suckle circle guy got it by the

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