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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast. Here's so work out wonder.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Kansas, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosa. Thought, what is up? Boys? Back together? The

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Speaker 1: group's back. I thought, Um, you know, Colin wilf did

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Speaker 1: a great job filling in on Thursday, but you know,

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Speaker 1: no substitute for the real thing. We got marked back

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Speaker 1: from his Don Draper Dick Whitman like sojourn up the

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Speaker 1: California coast and got Greg who went off to New

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Speaker 1: England and uh, you know, hung out with the family,

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Speaker 1: which I'd like to see you connecting with your roots

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Speaker 1: like that. Greg. So welcome back boys. Well we come

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Speaker 1: back and there's just a firestorm of activity around here

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, in the office, inter office fights, all

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Speaker 1: sorts of a lot of drama today. Yeah, but it will.

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Speaker 1: It should be noted that before we came on there

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Speaker 1: was a legitimate beef between west and t D that

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Speaker 1: can't not be discussed. Uh. Well, it's made us a

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Speaker 1: little I feel a little uncomfortable, but I you know,

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Speaker 1: you guys gotta work it out, uh, TD bringing a

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Speaker 1: little early today. How are you? How's going, guys? What's going? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's work through it. Because West and I came through

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Speaker 1: the door, and U and t D immediately got on

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Speaker 1: West about some choice of words on Twitter and what

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Speaker 1: what happened. The exchange was legitimate and um, you know

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Speaker 1: a lot of raised voices and some upset people. So

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Speaker 1: if you guys want to work it out right now,

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Speaker 1: the floor is yours. I apologize for calling you a name.

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Speaker 1: T D. Wow, it was good. Well act you know,

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Speaker 1: you're a boy man. You know, if I had a

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Speaker 1: first drop system was working right now with a little

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Speaker 1: return of the mac, you know, just to paw you

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Speaker 1: some love. I mean, it was just all it was

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Speaker 1: gonna talk it out. West didn't mean anything you know,

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Speaker 1: bad by it. I just you know, I took it

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Speaker 1: little Twitter comments, a talking hoops, you know, a little barbershop.

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Speaker 1: Who's better at top five? All that stuff? It is

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Speaker 1: it is final season or the NBA playoffs? Lebron, you know,

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Speaker 1: and he you know it thinks Larry, You know, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't I took except to you saying clearly when

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Speaker 1: it's I think it's clear, and I just think it's

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Speaker 1: clear in the sense that one's Lebron, you know, and

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Speaker 1: now not this Larry Bird at all. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's a landslide by any means. I just think one's Lebron,

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Speaker 1: and all the numbers favor Lebron. Well, hold on one

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Speaker 1: item that they were getting the milk toast watered down

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Speaker 1: version of this where you're both you're on air now

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Speaker 1: and you're being very amicable to each other. The ratings

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Speaker 1: would have sword if they had heard what was going

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Speaker 1: on in Brendon McGinnis behind the glass. Is there any

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Speaker 1: chance that we have that audio that we could save

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Speaker 1: for when the show is world famous and that could

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Speaker 1: be like our behind the music got cand already? It's

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Speaker 1: usually the other way around. There's usually a lot of

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Speaker 1: fake beef that we're playing up more than really is.

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Speaker 1: This is a legitimate He loved it. I was dancing.

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Speaker 1: I was literally dancing when it started, and then when

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Speaker 1: there was like an F bomb drop, that was like,

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Speaker 1: oh well, nothing makes stand happier than watching his friends

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Speaker 1: argue with each other. And put each other on edge, Yes,

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Speaker 1: until it goes too far and then I get uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: That's and that's what happened. But you guys aren't happy

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Speaker 1: now because we're not going at each other's throats. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit of sweet what's happening basically, Well, no,

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Speaker 1: like I said, West, my guy, he's apologized. If I

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Speaker 1: That's enough if you're not gonna keep fighting. Alright, Big

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Speaker 1: show today, Big Show today. We got the whole team

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Speaker 1: that won't last after we go off the air fingers crossed. Um,

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Speaker 1: But we have a lot to get to, some news

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Speaker 1: post mortem of the Dalton Scale, which was our show

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Speaker 1: last Tuesday, which is done very well in terms of metrics,

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Speaker 1: which gets Greg excited. Old Greg who sits in a

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Speaker 1: different section of the newsroom. Now him and his management

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Speaker 1: Dan is emptying the notebook of all you know, grievances

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Speaker 1: It's a bit of Assessler special because no one hates

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Speaker 1: year more than Mark Sessler. And I don't blame you.

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Speaker 1: rod for debate. Um. You know, tempers flair sometimes, but

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Speaker 1: And I literally had that set up for a news

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Speaker 1: that Chris Westling apologized I have I have apologized in

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Speaker 1: Down was about west You guys knew that. All right,

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Speaker 1: Minnesota wife stuff. Well, I mean, also, if you really

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Speaker 1: two thousand eleven. Maybe it's time with all these attributes

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Speaker 1: that he speaks of to become the big guy, right right,

427
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he knows what intangibles mean or

428
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Speaker 1: humility using the US in the context, I don't. I

429
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Speaker 1: don't have a problem. I mean, this is how what

430
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks think of himself. News slash Dan Marino thought thought

431
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 1: this about himself. Tom Brady, in his heart of hearts,

432
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Speaker 1: probably thinks this about himself. Cam Newton's a little more

433
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 1: open about people said it about Michael Vick and maybe

434
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Speaker 1: they're on the track for the same type of career. MM.

435
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Speaker 1: I don't, well, that's like, yeah, I don't have an

436
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: issue with him being confident in speaking out. It's kind

437
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 1: of fun to talk about and the and I say

438
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Speaker 1: this with the most humility. I'm gonna start starting all

439
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Speaker 1: my statements with that. But but to me, it does

440
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Speaker 1: if anything else that actually to me achieves the opposite

441
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Speaker 1: effect Mark and that Yeah, oh yeah, that's right. This

442
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 1: guy's you know, he's got all these stud attributes and

443
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 1: he hasn't been that great. He's been around for four

444
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: years and now he's that during year five. Any quote

445
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: that wanders on and on like the one that we

446
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Speaker 1: just read tells me he doesn't really know what he's

447
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: talking about when it comes to where he stands among

448
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks to begin with. And I could think of

449
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: five quarterbacks off the off of one hand that wouldn't

450
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 1: want to be him in the NFL right now anyways.

451
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Speaker 1: But I think he was saying that he hasn't brought

452
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Speaker 1: out all that talent yet. I mean that that he's

453
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 1: saying so much of his talents are in one person

454
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Speaker 1: that's who he's trying to become. Is a different type

455
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Speaker 1: of player than than maybe we've ever seen. And I

456
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Speaker 1: can see that argue. I would I would take it

457
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: from Cam Newton a lot faster, unique talent. Right then

458
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 1: some of these other quarterbacks that in year four or

459
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: five were still listen, here comes the big breakout season

460
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Speaker 1: from Andy Dalton or fill in the blank. Like with

461
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Speaker 1: Cam Newton, I do think that there's a lot more

462
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: there that the right coaching and the right scheme could

463
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Speaker 1: bring out. But at the same time, why is he

464
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Speaker 1: even saying this? Because he's a pram But I mean,

465
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Speaker 1: what is the points Because it's like, if anything, Cam

466
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: Newton has made it very clear that he has parts

467
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: of his game that needs so much work that this

468
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 1: quote doesn't fit who he is right now. I don't

469
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Speaker 1: think I think you're selling Dan. I think you're selling

470
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Speaker 1: a little short what he's accomplished so far and and

471
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Speaker 1: where he is in the quarterback you know echelon, Maybe

472
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Speaker 1: he's right around ten. If he doesn't get any better

473
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Speaker 1: for the next seven years. They'll keep signing him to

474
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Speaker 1: contracts and teams would like him as their starting quarterback. No,

475
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Speaker 1: he was four years into his year was thought of

476
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: more highly than Cam Newton is right now, that's true.

477
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: I think people are gonna fall over Cam Newton forever

478
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: because of just what he said, what is sizes, what

479
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 1: his gifts are. I mean, he's not going to suddenly

480
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Speaker 1: be without work. And in four years as a starter,

481
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: he's been on one good team. And I know it's

482
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: not all about the quarterback, but last year's team as

483
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 1: a crummy team. I know they won a playoff game.

484
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: The twelve and four team that was a great team

485
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: got wiped out in the playoffs, and then he's the

486
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 1: first two years. I think last year's team got good

487
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: down the stretch that they They've been in the final

488
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 1: eight teams two straight years. He's only been Are we

489
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Speaker 1: gonna are we gonna wait a second, We're gonna pretend

490
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Speaker 1: that beating that Cardinals team at home was some type

491
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Speaker 1: of great achievement. What did they when he played terrible

492
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: in that game? He did, and he played pretty well.

493
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Speaker 1: Then he played pretty well the next week against Seattle

494
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Speaker 1: where they're tied going in the fourth quarter. I'm just

495
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: saying he was fine. They won what four straight games

496
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Speaker 1: to end the season. I don't think his comment is

497
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 1: about what he's done either. I think if for anything

498
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: any foresight for what he's had, I think he's saying,

499
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Speaker 1: this is what he can become. He wants to become

500
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: things that no quarterbacks ever dreamt up. Well, that's all

501
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: sounds ridiculous to me that I'd say, right, start with

502
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: the basic things that people are killing you on. If

503
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Speaker 1: nothing else, I am happy to have Cam Newton in

504
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: our NFL lives. He's a un player, and he has

505
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: a unique talent, and he's and he gives us. He's

506
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Speaker 1: a guy. And speaking of he's a guy, I find

507
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Speaker 1: Cam Newton to be closer to the Dalton line that

508
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: maybe obviously Greg thinks, uh, the Dalton scale. Um, and

509
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Speaker 1: you know that's what's happening with the news. By the way,

510
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: but we should do let's unpack, you know for a

511
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Speaker 1: couple of minutes, just go back the Dalton scale. He

512
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Speaker 1: did conversation Mark while you were away driving up the coast,

513
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: I could feel it's a wind in your hair thinking

514
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: about yesterday's and Tomorrow's all at the same time, um,

515
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: just thinking about what life is all about. Any was

516
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: there like any any big epiphanies or big moments on

517
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: that trip? Ah? Yeah, I don't think they'd be appropriate

518
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: to share in this venue. Did you? Did you like

519
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: go sit by the ocean and then write the next

520
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: coke jingle? I didn't. I know, I got a number

521
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: of these Coca Cola tweets. I was not attempting to

522
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: be Don Draper. I was sleeping and rest stops, so

523
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's not attempting to be anyone else. Yeah,

524
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Speaker 1: I asked you where you That's when I decided to

525
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: turn off Twitter. When the first Oh, what are you

526
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: trying to do? You're trying to do this? It's like,

527
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: you know what, bye bye gone, Just turn the phone off.

528
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear from anyone. It's like I

529
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: just wanted a little bit of quiet, and and you

530
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,479
Speaker 1: did sleep in your car. That's well. Yeah, I mean

531
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Speaker 1: it was a trip that I did not plan for

532
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: from a funding angle, and I found it to be

533
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: a very safe rest stop. Sleeping is usually to get

534
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: stabbed in the heart. I didn't overdo it. Yeah, that's true.

535
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Speaker 1: I've seen some you know, forty eight hours mysteries. Mystery's

536
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful. You gotta be careful if anyone's

537
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: coming and knocking on that, you know, on your window.

538
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: This well, I woke up safely at around three fifteen

539
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: in the morning and said time to keep driving because

540
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to risk this what happens between now

541
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: and six fifteen, And they all right, so that's gonna

542
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: and I hope you achieve some type of enlightenment. Enlightenment,

543
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: but we're not gonna ask you about it because it's

544
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: kind of like you think it's a private thing. As

545
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: much as you could over forty eight hours, all right,

546
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's talk a little little post mortem on

547
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: on the Dalton scale. And and for those of you

548
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: that might have missed the pod, yeah, we had a

549
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: we were trying to put where the quarterback backs all

550
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: fit in and when you try to figure out where

551
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: they are on the Dalton scale, which as a reminder,

552
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: any quarterback above Andy Dalton is a viable franchise player.

553
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: Any quarterback below Andy Dalton is a problem. Not the solution.

554
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: Uh Dalton we thought was the purgatory for soonified guy.

555
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: But that's also in up and for debate. After our conversation, West,

556
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: I'll throw it to you any um takeaways after the show.

557
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure you got a ton of tweets, um people

558
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: asking you, you know, where your head's at with it?

559
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,239
Speaker 1: What's your next move with the Dalton scale? Where you're

560
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: at right now? Well, I think the problem is having

561
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: this discussion in May, because the off season is the

562
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 1: NFL's business season, and you see what happens every year,

563
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: people fall in love with draft picks and potential. The

564
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: I came out this like, I came at this exercise

565
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: thinking like a GM, because I think you have to

566
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: in May or else Why you even have the discussion.

567
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: A lot of other people came at it as a

568
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: fan or a writer or whatever. You if you're talking

569
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: about a situation in May, you have to consider salary,

570
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: upside that, all that kind of stuff. That's what gms consider. Else,

571
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: why even have the conversation in May? So that's why

572
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: I said, of course I would take Blake Bortles over

573
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton one one writer or one uh Twitter father.

574
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: I suggested the Dalton line. Could the Dalton question could

575
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: be reframed? Would you give this quarterback a six year,

576
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: ninety six million dollar contract. Now, obviously we could change

577
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: the numbers around. I knew what he was getting at

578
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: would you pay this quarterback fifteen million dollars a year

579
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: for six years? I wouldn't pay Dalton that much? Right well,

580
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: that he'd be below the Dalton right, I guess, like

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Speaker 1: the Mendoes aligne. I took an issue if you put

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Speaker 1: guys like Blake Bortles or Damis Winston above him, to me,

583
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: that feels like folly, because the Dalton scale should be

584
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: about shouldn't be about extrapolation and prediction. It should be

585
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: about like right now. So Blake Bortles right now is

586
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: not ahead of Dalton, but maybe in two years he

587
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: will be. But you kind of gotta see it, but

588
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: you're not. I guess I would I come at as

589
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: you're not acknowledging my point that it's May and this

590
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: is the NFL's business season. You have to approach it

591
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: like a g M M May. I think. I I

592
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: thought it was all just actually the player on the field,

593
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: how he plays, who he is. Well, then why even

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00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: have the conversation in May? Why not wait until September

595
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: October that we have games? What else are you gonna

596
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: talk about, Well, wait, why take Blake Bortles with the

597
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: third overall pick if you think his ceiling is is andy?

598
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: Of course the Jaguars would put it, but I know

599
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: at the insane and that's how I approached it for

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00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: the most Part Two is that you have to earn,

601
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: you have to show that you're better. But that's not

602
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: how the NFL works. It isn't here. Yeah, how why wait?

603
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,239
Speaker 1: Why who would take any Dalton over Blake Bortles if

604
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: they today? Nobody would? I think the Bengals would. I

605
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: think I don't. They have to believe their own press

606
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: a different questions. Portals on paper had worse stats than

607
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: you know, some of the worst quarterbacks in the last

608
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: thirty years. This is West's actual wording of the definition.

609
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: Any QB above dalt is a viable franchise player. How

610
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: can you say that about Blake Bortles right now? That's

611
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: why I think that's is an existential crisis and that

612
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: doesn't work anymore. It only works in the season. It

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00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: doesn't work in man. I don't think that to me.

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00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: I can't. Once you've got games going again, Yeah, you

615
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: got you have evidence, you have, all right? This is

616
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: the game film, but it may to me. I can't

617
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: have that discussion without thinking about salary and value. You

618
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: also the NFL value. You also at this point dislike

619
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: Dalton enough that he's not close to the middle for you.

620
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: Well like what he's like we said on the actual

621
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: Dalton Scale podcast, the line has moved since he signed

622
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: a contract that makes him no longer a competitive I

623
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: have a take on that. The Dalton scale, it can

624
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: it can remain the Dalton Scale, even if Dalton himself

625
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: is no longer the prime meridian, because there was a

626
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: time where he was the perfect example of a guy

627
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: right on the line. Right, that's not him, It's a measurement.

628
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: It's uh, that's why he's the Mendoza line. It's like

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00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: the two thousand twelve Dalton. Although I do like the

630
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: there's a chance for you know, sponsorship opportunity, you know,

631
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: branding if we keep changing the name. That's what I'm saying.

632
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: That's part of the reason I think we should keep

633
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: its Alex Smith line or whatever. Give us some money.

634
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: Seriously as usual, you know, me and West agree on

635
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: this clearly. Um, definitely, I hear what I hear what

636
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: he's saying. But the ultimate point here, though, is that

637
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the top one hundred. You're taken

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Speaker 1: into account what the player has done recently, but also

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Speaker 1: for acting to what they're gonna do next year. I

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00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: think Andy Dalton, by the way, I think Andy Dalton

641
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: stops being a Dalton scale when he doesn't make the playoffs.

642
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: That's when you like, you know what he's done, We can't.

643
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: We gotta come up with a new name. Wins a

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Speaker 1: playoff game, but he's an odd guy who keeps making

645
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: it but doesn't win. He's in a certain purgatory that

646
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: when he breaks out, either way, for better or worse,

647
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: he becomes even more biguiling to deal with. To me,

648
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: it's still about that question, is he do you if

649
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: he a solution at quarterback? Or do you need to

650
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: keep looking for other guys? Now? Whether Dalton is the

651
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 1: perfect guy for that, that's another debate. But to me,

652
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Speaker 1: Bortles might be below that line still, because if I

653
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: had Bortles, I still would want to be getting other quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean to take his job, but just just his

655
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Speaker 1: options until he shows that he can do it. That's fair,

656
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: all right, good, We'll we listen. We'll definitely address us

657
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: again in the season. Well, maybe it will be different.

658
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Speaker 1: I know I wanted to. I want to put some

659
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Speaker 1: of this stuff on paper for the office season, maybe

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Speaker 1: written well, get ready, West, we can't write it. We

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Speaker 1: have no clarity long form NFL dot com. By the way,

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Speaker 1: thanks for tuning in to that one. We're gonna hit

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Speaker 1: k on that. Oh so yeah, that's good. And also

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Speaker 1: this came down the uh the old newswire internal email system.

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Speaker 1: That's how we communicate in modern society. Uh. The Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast has been nominated for the in the

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Speaker 1: Sports category of the Academy of Podcasters Awards. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: presented by uh Stitcher, which is something that's real. Uh

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Speaker 1: so yeah, thank you to everyone that has uh you know,

670
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Speaker 1: listened to us and downloaded us and commented and checked

671
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: us out a stitcher, which must be some type of

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Speaker 1: method of distribution that has led to a nomination for

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Speaker 1: a major award, the method distribution. I mean, if we

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Speaker 1: win this, we can take that best of two thousand

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Speaker 1: and thirteen iTunes label off our Yeah. Two years ago

676
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Speaker 1: with this this award, show was supposed to happen in

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Speaker 1: and then they postponed it because they're making a big

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Speaker 1: deal out of this. So it's this is a two

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Speaker 1: this is a three day event, and I was going

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Speaker 1: to feature people from other popular pod TD already pitching

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Speaker 1: himself to go to text now he already is saying

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Speaker 1: that he's going, come on, I'm going Yeah, it has

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Speaker 1: it has saraconic from Cyril. She's going to be out there.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, well wait, we'd all go right, yeah, how

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Speaker 1: would t be the one that goes you put in

686
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Speaker 1: the least amount of work with this whole group. Hey,

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Speaker 1: that's just the fact I'm your biggest supporter, TD, But

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Speaker 1: you've only been on the ship here for nine months.

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Speaker 1: You know. It is a conference in addition to the

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Speaker 1: award show you guys, is this a major award? It is?

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Speaker 1: It's like a leg lamp. It's be in position as like,

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Speaker 1: I'm desperately trying to get TD to to put in

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Speaker 1: the drop that I requested for this segment, and he

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Speaker 1: just won't. I thought that was a real question. Yeah, good,

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Speaker 1: let's do it again. Go ahead, all right? Yeah? Is

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Speaker 1: this a major award? Award? Oh? Good award? I like

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Speaker 1: the idea that of conference mixed with an award presentation

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Speaker 1: after parties all kinds and why would we this sounds

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Speaker 1: like a perfecting, a group building. He just wants to go,

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Speaker 1: you know, meet women. Yeah, all right, so yeah, thank

701
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 1: you for everyone that's supported the podcast and hopefully we'll

702
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Speaker 1: win and you put that right next to our two

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Speaker 1: thousand thirteen Stitcher award wherever it is. But we we

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Speaker 1: won that, so you know, continue to rack up, uh,

705
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: you know, type of things that tell us that we're good, mark,

706
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: because those those physical manifestations let us know that we're

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Speaker 1: worth something. That's how I look at awards, don't you Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I look at the exact same way. Then, Okay, cool, alright,

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Speaker 1: Dan Hands is here with the rest of the around

710
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: the NFL team and we're gonna do a little bit

711
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: of talk now about some off season narratives. We've been

712
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: tracking all these different storylines coming out of teams as

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Speaker 1: O t A s continue. But what's what are some

714
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: of the stories that we're not trusting right now? They're

715
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: kind of being forced down our throat and we said

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Speaker 1: we're rejecting, Like, let's be honest, we're doing some of

717
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: the forcing. We're forcing. Okay, okay, fair, but well said

718
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Speaker 1: you know, get out of my throat, reject it, and Mark,

719
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna start with you give me your off season

720
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: narrative you don't trust well, I mean it starts with

721
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel, and I think it was obvious that once

722
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,959
Speaker 1: he returned from his rehab stint that we were gonna

723
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: get some sort of reaction from the Browns and it

724
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: was gonna either be very neutral, and it was for

725
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: some period of time. And then their offensive coordinator John D.

726
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: Philippo comes out and said that he's just been awesome.

727
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: He's been great are the words he used. That he

728
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: shows up before the sun rises, he's there until the

729
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: sun goes down, and it's like he's doing everything well.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that Filippo. I liked Filippo, and listen,

731
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Speaker 1: I I'm not saying that I don't want this to

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Speaker 1: be the case. I hope Manzel can turn it around.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see that he is more committed, but

734
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to trust anything about a Brown's quarterback

735
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: and a specifically Manzell until September and we see it

736
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Speaker 1: on the field. It makes sense why a Browns fan

737
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: would feel that way because I think because maybe a

738
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: couple of years now, when we have a little more

739
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: time to properly let it all sink in. How disastrous

740
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: his first year was. I mean from on the field

741
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: play to the party stuff and then the trip to

742
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Speaker 1: the rehabilitation center. It was as beat even by Brown standards.

743
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: It was an absolute nightmare. So it's it's too it's

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00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: anyone that thinks he shows up at O t s

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00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: and it looks good for a couple of days and

746
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: some of the teammates are saying decent things, it's too

747
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: soon to think that this guy has fixed his career

748
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: in life. And the thing watching the O T a

749
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: s today, he still looks incredibly small. To me. That

750
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: is my number one concern, more than everything else. They

751
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: can't fix that. That's that sticks. And for everything that

752
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: happened off the field in terms of his work ethic

753
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: or how he approached football, I think the figger concerns are,

754
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: is this guy ever gonna be good enough and football

755
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: smart enough to be a starting quarterback? Well, I think

756
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: Mark's point. When I watched Brown's games last year, that

757
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: was my number one concern. He was too small, and

758
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: he wasn't the moves that he could make to get

759
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: past defenders in college don't work in the NFL. Well,

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00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: you you hit upon with the off season tropes whenever

761
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Speaker 1: you start hearing that, oh, well, he's taking some great notes,

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00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, he's really taking good he's

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Speaker 1: a good note take. I mean, what are they really

764
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: talking about when they're saying he's doing a great job.

765
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: I mean they're only in there for three or four

766
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: hours at a time. They're limited to what they can do.

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00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: He's showing up for work and he's doing his job.

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Speaker 1: And I think Mike Petton is trying to quiet down

769
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Speaker 1: this story a little even today on Tuesday he said,

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Speaker 1: you know, let's not get carried away. You know, he's

771
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Speaker 1: working hard. It's it's the off season. What could he

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00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: really be doing that so impressed? And he's with he's

773
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,479
Speaker 1: entrenched with the second team. So this very clearly looks

774
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: like it's Josh McCown's team. Now. I think, barring some account,

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Speaker 1: you know, two thousand thirteen floor wi ish Menzel is

776
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 1: gonna have a chance to play. But it all depends

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Speaker 1: on whether he proves it to the Browns. Now he

778
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: doesn't get any I don't think they're going to give

779
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: him any free pass back on the field, and he's

780
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: got the show something in practice and in the in

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00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: you know, the room for the meetings and all that. Yeah,

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00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: I think McCown is capable of playing himself out of

783
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: the job too on an offense that lacks weapons. So

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00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: it's very possible we see Manzel. You have to go

785
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: back a decade plus for a year where one quarterback

786
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: started sixteen games for them. So let's go week seven.

787
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Speaker 1: That's my open I go week five? Okay, Well take

788
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: six weekow? Well, you love John. Three months ago you

789
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: were saying Manzel won't play in a single game this year,

790
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: things changed, the tropes start to get into the mind.

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00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: Mark Johnny Manzel in Football, two thousand and seventeen. Yes, okay,

792
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 1: moving on football is pretty you know, big broad topic,

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00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: I kind of in NFL. But quarterbacks have many lives.

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00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: I just I don't think he'd be gone that quickly,

795
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: but it would be go and close then Yeah, all right,

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00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Uh, what are you not necessarily trusting that's

797
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: coming in through the NFL media machine. Well, Greg and

798
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: a few other people I know believe that the Adrian

799
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Speaker 1: Peterson saga this offseason is solely driven by money. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: well I don't I think that is Obviously there's more

801
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: to it than that. I think that he really had

802
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: his feelings hurt last year. I mean more than his

803
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: feelings hurt, he's he doesn't trust anyone. He doesn't trust

804
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: certain members of the Vikings. His wife doesn't want to

805
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: be in Minnesota anymore. He wants to play for a

806
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: contend or at least that's what his agent told Bleacher

807
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: Report this weekend. He wants to play for a contender

808
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: who will stand by him and defend him, like the

809
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: Vikings did not do last year. So what is it?

810
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: What's the off season? You're not buying my off season hype.

811
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Speaker 1: I'm not buying. I can introduce you to your boss, Greg.

812
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 1: I'm not buying your narrative that it's only about getting

813
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: more guaranteed money. In fact, a confidant close to Peterson

814
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: told Yahoo that it's never been about the money. Yeah,

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00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: you know what Yahoo is, that's the place that just

816
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: spoon feeds agent information to help their clients. That's what

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00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: I That's how I read that Greg crosses Yahoo off

818
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Speaker 1: a potential employer. We we've been following this Peterson thing

819
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: every week for a while, you know, there was no

820
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: way they wanted to play with the Vikings, And once

821
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 1: they kind of realized that after the draft, they they

822
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: started to make it clear. Ian Rapport reported, Okay, now

823
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: they're changing gears and they want to get more money.

824
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Speaker 1: Now they're not getting the money that they want exactly,

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Speaker 1: so they're going on another offensive of leverage. Well, do

826
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Speaker 1: you think there's a chance that Ben Dogra and Jerry

827
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: Jones behind the scenes have shared, you know, maybe a

828
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: couple of dinners, a couple of phone conversations that say

829
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: there is still a potential chance. Jerry Jones said he

830
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: was still willing to maybe trade next year's number one

831
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: pick for a veteran player this year that could help

832
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: the team keep that Super Bowl window open. Well, if

833
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: you were a conspiracy theorist, you could look at Greg

834
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: Hardy's suspension and think, Jerry Jones says, Oh, that's that's

835
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: five million dollars more in cap space than I thought

836
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: we were gonna have. That sounds exactly like. Let me

837
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: ask you this, who knows Adrian Peterson's true feelings better

838
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: his and his agent and someone close to him or

839
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: Viking sources. I don't care about his true feelings. I'm

840
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: not arguing that he wasn't offended by the Vikings and

841
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: that he wasn't annoyed by them, But this stuff about

842
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: playing for a contender, all of this goes away if

843
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: they give him the money on so then that's the

844
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: important factor. So when his agent and when people coasted

845
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: him come out this week and say he's still very

846
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: miffed with the Vikings. He doesn't want anything to do

847
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: with him. He said in meetings with them all offseason,

848
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: he made it clear he wanted to be traded. And

849
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: they're saying all that again this week. You're saying none

850
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: of that is true. What happened with the after the

851
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: draft where the agent was like, this was all you

852
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: know with the Vikings show us it was a good

853
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 1: It was like a test that they passed. It wasn't

854
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: that exactly? The agent said, like, we like the fact

855
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: that they've been so steadfast that they like they believe

856
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: in him so much that they haven't even entertained offers.

857
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: I don't I don't doubt that that he was pissed

858
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: at the Vikings. Of course he was. He was mad

859
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: at them, But I think money would solve that well.

860
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: All about money, plus no one making a play for him,

861
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: no other option than to sit out another year out

862
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: of stubbornness. I mean, it's kind of like you break

863
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: up with someone and no matter what she does, if

864
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: you really truly are on the outs, you're never going back. No,

865
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what she does, You're never gonna like

866
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: that girl again. Here's another reason why I don't believe it.

867
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson welcomed Mike Zimmer and Spielman into his house,

868
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: and Zimmer said he has an idea of when Peterson

869
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: is going to come back. I think Adrian Peterson will

870
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: be happy to play for Mike Zimmer. I think he'll

871
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: be happy to play with Teddy Bridgewater. It's not that

872
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 1: the coaches and the teammates. You know, he's mad about

873
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: the organization. And by the way, if west of what

874
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: you're thinking is right, that he does want out for

875
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: more reasons beyond money, and he wants out of town.

876
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: If he thinks we're heading close to June first, if

877
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: he thinks he's gonna end up with a raise playing

878
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: for the Patriots or something that's not happening. I think

879
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: people are under underestimating his wife's role. In this maybe,

880
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: and that's that's fair. It's the stuff about the contender.

881
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: I guess that that sort of thing. It's like, first

882
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 1: of all, the Vikings might end up with a better

883
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: record than the Cowboys. Anyways, who say, who's a contender.

884
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: I'll take Minnesota. Wow. The one thing we're gonna find

885
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: out is this is gonna be really exciting to see

886
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: what happens next. That's my thought. That was an outstanding

887
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 1: Thank you. Here's the off season narrative that I don't

888
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: trust personally. Uh, there's a lot of a lot of

889
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: chatter out there about after they change the two point conversion.

890
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: Of course, the kick is now like thirty two or

891
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: thirty three yards for the point after after being for

892
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 1: years it was what a seventeen yard attempt? And uh,

893
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, Gary Kubia came out and said last week

894
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: that it's gonna change. It's gonna change the way we

895
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: we play the game a great deal. I don't buy it.

896
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm not buying it. I don't trust that all these

897
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: teams are all gonna all of a sudden start going

898
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: for two like crazy. I think they're gonna send their

899
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: kickers out in the field trusting the thirty two yard

900
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: field goals. Most of them will do it, and the

901
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: guys that don't miss it will probably lose their jobs.

902
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: I think the only big thing that come out of

903
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: this year a couple of outliers, maybe a Chip Kelly

904
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: or something like that, could get a little frisky. But

905
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 1: you're just gonna see some uh kickers lose their jobs

906
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: over extra points, which is why all the kickers are all,

907
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, honking to use a greg is um in

908
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: the first place, because they just realized their job. We

909
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: got a little harder. A little harder is in we're

910
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: gonna guess they're gonna make like of their extra points now,

911
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: is what the committee cames. It's roughly the same percentage

912
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: of NFL coaches who are risk averse, so don't expect

913
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 1: them to start going for two point conversions. They're still

914
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: gonna go with the safe play. I agree with that. Now,

915
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: what they should have done, I don't think it's going

916
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: to be a game. It was a classic half measure

917
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 1: because they should have just put the two point conversion

918
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: at the one and then let all the math to

919
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: Peitians basically explained that that's the better play odds wise,

920
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: and then it gets real interesting. But they didn't. They

921
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: didn't do that, and I think it's gonna result in

922
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: just a lot more longer extra points. Well, it reminds

923
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: me of when they initiated the two point conversion and

924
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: there was the same offseason shatter of whoa, this is

925
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: a total game changer. This is gonna completely alter what

926
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: offenses do and how they attack and how they come

927
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: from behind. And it did nothing. The two point conversion

928
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: was used rarely, so rarely that it you know who

929
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: put the first one in Belichick of all people. I mean, listen,

930
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: they did not he an innovator, but it was barely used.

931
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: And I think that's why they had to even make

932
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: this change because the initial change to the two point

933
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: conversion never really took effect. Well it's it's affected pretty

934
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: big games, I mean, but it's not used like how

935
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: this is to see how it's going to the Super Bowl.

936
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: Last remember Dom Capers, I mean, he was his first

937
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: game with the Texans. He chose to go for two

938
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: to avoid overtime, and he nowed it. I think it

939
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: was like the Texan first game ever was get the Cowboys, right,

940
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've been They beat the Cowboys in

941
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: the first regular season game. I've been wanting to get

942
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: rid of this extra point a long time, and you're right.

943
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 1: I think the results will be disappointing. I do hope

944
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 1: that they're so boring that they consider moving it back

945
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: again to the forty three or moving those Just get

946
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: rid of it then if you're gonna make it like

947
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: a really hard kick, just but it was a really

948
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: hard kick when they first not really hard, but it

949
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: was hard, much harder when when they first had it.

950
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: Maybe just get rid of it and they first started

951
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: extra points. Yeah, well, Pete weren't nailing them because they

952
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: were toebangers. They weren't kicking soccer style, right they were. Hey,

953
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: old buddy, you're a tollbanger. You got Luke Grows out

954
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: there kicking toebangers. It's one thing you don't want to

955
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: be called in life or anyone in your family, your

956
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: sisters a toe bang. Well you ever, did you, guys

957
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: eay soccer? Yes? So, like you know, when you when

958
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: you're in grade school and you're playing soccer, if you

959
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: kick it toe style, they call it tobanger. You know,

960
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: it's it's it's seen as uncouth in the soccer world

961
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: because you can't control the ball. It's just the fireball

962
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: you're sending out there. The only soccer talk. The only

963
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: goal I scored on my own team, I was defense

964
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: and the only goal kicked it off the back of

965
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: my foot and no one was watching. It just went

966
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: off the back of my foot into the goal and

967
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: no one weren't new where the ball was. And I

968
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: was like, what, I'm eight years old? What am I

969
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: doing here? Got to get off alright. Finally, Greg Rosenthal,

970
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 1: known as the Boss, you know, freshly back from New England.

971
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: Were you at the Free Brady Uh party England? The

972
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: rally did not did not bring me. I thought of you. Im.

973
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: I was like if there was a news show and

974
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: they were like scrolled across the crowd and it was

975
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: like Greg and full like face paint, holding his daughter

976
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: on his shoulders. It would have been my favorite thing

977
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: since we found out about Delaware. Anyway, Greg, the offseason

978
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: narrative that you do not trust. My narrative I don't

979
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: trust is they thought that Peyton Manning's done and that

980
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos Super Bowl window is closed. I look

981
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: at that roster and I see one of the top

982
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: three or four rosters in the NFL, and I think

983
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: there's a perfectly reasonable chance that Peyton Manning is going

984
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: to go out there this year and be a top

985
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 1: eight quarterback or top ten quarterback. Maybe he's not Peyton

986
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: Manning m v P year and I don't think he

987
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: needs to be for that team to make the Super Bowl.

988
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: Who's driving this narrative? This is largely a Twitter narrative

989
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: I've found rather than I don't know I I brought

990
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: it up with Daniel is this even I don't think

991
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: has said it on this show, but I haven't heard

992
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: it anywhere. But he doesn't count with anything Peyton Manning.

993
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: I feel like he has to recuse its at this point.

994
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: There's a general feeling or a general I don't think

995
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: when people are coming out with picks in August and

996
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: no one's taking the Broncos anymore. And to me, there's

997
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: there's no difference this year really, when I look at

998
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: the Broncos compared to the last couple of years, I

999
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: see it there and then as one of the favorites.

1000
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: I think there's a big difference. Peyton Manning is a

1001
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: mystery now. Nobody knows what he is, but you know,

1002
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: I do find it interesting that I think it was

1003
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus, or maybe it was Rotor World put

1004
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: out their top one hundred players and Manning wasn't on it.

1005
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: I thought that was symbolic of of the way that

1006
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: people now are not giving Manning the benefit of the

1007
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: doubt based on the fact that he got injured at

1008
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: the end of last season and we for some for

1009
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,959
Speaker 1: some reason, it's been decided by some people that he's

1010
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: done and he's in a period of decline. But we

1011
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: don't even attach it when nobody says anything about as

1012
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: an example, Tom Brady, who's I think thirteen months younger

1013
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: than Manning. No one ever says, oh, he might be

1014
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: getting old. Manning got hurt, hurt his squad, and all

1015
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the belief is that he's not gonna

1016
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: be that's all people just. I mean, Brady just heroically

1017
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl and now he's an antihero. You

1018
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: throw all it together. But like with Manning, it's the

1019
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: last impression we had him in that Cults game where

1020
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: he looks sub hard. It was. It was hard to watch.

1021
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: It's hard to watch someone that's been as good as

1022
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: he has been for so long play at that level.

1023
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: But then you find out that the injury impacted at all,

1024
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: and that should change the way we feel. But I

1025
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: don't think there's a narrative saying that anyone picking the

1026
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: a f C West has the Broncos as a shoe

1027
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: in a f C West winner and a Top A

1028
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: Final four contender in the a f C. That's the

1029
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: way i'd see them. I think the Peyton Manning injury thing,

1030
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: it's hard to separate how much of that was the

1031
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: quad and how much is his arm and how much

1032
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: is it they connected. I'm sure they are, but the

1033
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: last few years he's lost arm strength. Come December in

1034
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: January or or how likely he is to have some

1035
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 1: other problematic injury next year that pops up very possible.

1036
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: But everyone should also remember that through about what week

1037
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 1: nine or ten last year, is probably the best quarterback

1038
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: in the league besides maybe Aaron Rodgers. He was a study,

1039
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: was on pace to throw fifty more touchdowns, and then

1040
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: he got hurt. And people have tried to dig dig

1041
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: dirt on Brady at various points. I mean, there was

1042
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: that sort of offseason conversation last year. Has he declined

1043
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: or not? So you said Okay, Peyton Mandy mystery he is.

1044
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: But Tom Brady is a mystery too. Tom made. The

1045
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: cliff is coming for Tom Brady. He's got to fall

1046
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: off at some point. You're talking about the reigning Super

1047
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: Bowl m v P. I'm just saying he could have

1048
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: a bad season and it wouldn't shouldn't shock anyone consider

1049
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: But I don't think he made bad stretches. He's not

1050
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: a mystery yet. There's no there's no evidence we have

1051
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: evidence with Manning his last eight games of last season. Well,

1052
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: you pressed when he has to use a regulation football,

1053
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: will you tell me that probably the same thing he

1054
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: did in the Super Bowl when he had to use

1055
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: the regulations football or the second half against before you

1056
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, hit me up on Twitter. That's a joke,

1057
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: you punks. Greg was definitely at the Free Time Brady Parade.

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Speaker 1: It was many of his operatives. If it wasn't him,

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Speaker 1: he paid people to go fill that fill that venue.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's it, uh folks for today's edition of

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Speaker 1: the Round the NFL podcast. Thank you as always for listening.

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Speaker 1: We will be back with our second show the week

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Speaker 1: on Thursday, so make sure you listen to that and

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Speaker 1: uh you know. Wait, hold up up, I haven't forgotten

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Speaker 1: the podcast MVP. The podcast we do. People love it.

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Speaker 1: It's going to Dan Azs for creating the free Tom character.

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Speaker 1: That was wow, wow, right under the gun there. I've

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Speaker 1: never dan is beaming right now here. Yeah, I know

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Speaker 1: what he looked like on his first date with his

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Speaker 1: future why I mean love right now? That has real

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Speaker 1: mean potential. Man. So if you're listening, if you want

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Speaker 1: to create a Greg Wilson character, that's the one. I

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Speaker 1: thought you might give it to Wes because you know,

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Speaker 1: just as a Bury the hatchet maneuver, or maybe too

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Speaker 1: Greg because he's our boss. I knew you weren't gonna

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Speaker 1: give it to Yeah, I don't you know, t D.

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Speaker 1: I think that we've done a good job today, and

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Speaker 1: I like that your conflict with someone else overshadowed. What

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Speaker 1: is a consistent one with me? It's back on the map.

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Speaker 1: I'm very annoy man. Hey, hey hey, hey, hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: hey hey hey, you forgot something else. What we're supposed

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Speaker 1: to ask about favorite segments? Oh I was gonna do

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Speaker 1: that on the next show, all right, but since you

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Speaker 1: brought it up. Two showrunner Chris Wesley, Yeah, at producer

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Speaker 1: t D. I want you, guys, all the listeners for this,

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Speaker 1: for this UM award that we've been on nominating for

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Speaker 1: a major award. In fact, we have to submit a

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Speaker 1: five minute uh section of one of our shows. So

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Speaker 1: if there's a part of one of our shows in

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Speaker 1: the in the recent weeks or months that you're particularly

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Speaker 1: enjoying for some reason it's in your minds as I'm

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Speaker 1: saying this, hit up at producer t D and let

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Speaker 1: him know and and put him to work and he'll

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Speaker 1: clip that off and send it to the Academy. Remember

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Speaker 1: award exactly. All right, now we can go, can we go?

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Speaker 1: That's Chris is a your winner? Yeah West, can we go?

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Speaker 1: Yeah we out of here? Alright good? Uh. This is

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Speaker 1: Dan Hans this signing off for the Sizzler, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: the Mailman, the Boss, and the great t D behind

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Speaker 1: the glass and I see h McGuinness. And also you

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Speaker 1: missed the mustache. Mr