1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg daybreakur podcast, available every morning on Apple, 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: Spotify or wherever you listen. It's Tuesday, the twenty seventh 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: of May. Here in London. I'm Caroline Hepka coming up today. 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: A horrific incident, the words of Prime Minister Kiss Starmer, 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: after a car drives into crowds at Liverpool's Premier League 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: trophy parade. The US and EU agree to fast track 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: trade negotiations as President Trump pauses fifty percent tariffs on 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: the block. And seventeen years after the bailout, nat West 10 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: is preparing for life after government ownership with an Ion 11 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: acquisitions and wealth management. Let's start with a roundup of 12 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: our top stories. Twenty Seven people, including four children, have 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: been injured after a car drove into crowds of people 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: during Liverpool's Premier League victory parade. A fifty three year 15 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: old British man has been arrested. Merseyside Police Assistant Chief 16 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: Constable Jenny Simms says that they are not looking for 17 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: anyone else. 18 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: I know that people will understandably be concerned by what 19 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: has happened tonight. What I can tell you is that 20 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 3: we believe this to be an isolated incident. The incident 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: is not being treated as terrorism. 22 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: Merseyside Police, speaking there as the local FI service reported 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 2: that four people, including a child, were lifted from beneath 24 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: the car. In a statement, Prime Minister Keir Starmer said 25 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: Liverpool stands together and the whole country stands with Liverpool. 26 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: Liverpool Football Club says its thoughts and prayers are with 27 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: those injured. 28 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 4: So that our top story this morning. 29 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: Now, let's think about the European Union, which says that 30 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: it has agreed to accelerate negotiations with the US to 31 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: avoid a transatlantic trade war. The move to fast track 32 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: trade tours comes after a phone call between the EU 33 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: Commissioned President Slavonteline and the US President Donald Trump. Following 34 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: the call, President Trump also extended the deadline to impose 35 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: fifty percent tariffs on the EU to the ninth of 36 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 2: July to allow more time for negotiations. While the EU 37 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: has said that its priority is to find a negotiated 38 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: solution with the US, it has also been preparing to 39 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: retaliate with its own levees if needed. European Central Bank 40 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: President Christine Leaguard says that the White House's erratic policies 41 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: are an opportunity for the Euro. In a speech, the 42 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: Guard suggested that America could be undermining the dollar's role 43 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: as the world's reserve currency. She says that this could 44 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: be the moment the Euro goes global. 45 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 5: Moments of change can also be moments of opportunity. The 46 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 5: ongoing changes create the opening for a global euro moment, 47 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 5: and this is a prime opportunity for Europe to take 48 00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 5: greater control of its own destiny. But let's not follow ourselves. 49 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 5: It is not the privilege that will be bestowed upon us. 50 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: The ECB president called for a closer single market and 51 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: more joint EU financing to make the block more financially attractive. Currently, 52 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: the dollar makes up roughly sixty percent of sovereign currency 53 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: reserves around the world, compared to the euro at twenty percent. 54 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: Dutch pension fund PME is issuing a blanket warning to 55 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: the US financial sector about caving in to pressure from 56 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: the Trump administration to abandon basic principles. The fund, with 57 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: sixty five billion dollars worth of assets under management, says 58 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: that if firms stay silent on Trump's policies, they could 59 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: lose the right to manage its money. Bloomberg's James Orcock 60 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: has the story. 61 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 6: PME says there is a fundamental divide between European values 62 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 6: and the Trump administration. The Dutch Fund is considering changing 63 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 6: its ESG metrics to exclude money managers who don't stand 64 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 6: up for environment and diversity goals. Put their five billion 65 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 6: dollar mandate with black Rock under a view after the 66 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 6: asset manager quit a net zero coalition. More worryingly for Americans, 67 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 6: PME and not alone state streets have already lost mandates 68 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 6: in Scandinavia and the UK, and ali Anders, warning the 69 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 6: US may no longer offer a reliable investment runway In London. 70 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 7: James Wilcock Bloomberg Radio. 71 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: NATO Secretary General says that member states are moving towards 72 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 2: spending five percent of their GDP on defense. Speaking doing 73 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: a televised question and answer session, Mark Rutter confirmed the target, 74 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: which meets a demand by US President Donald Trump that 75 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: was originally deemed unrealistic. 76 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 8: I assume that indyak we will agree on a higher 77 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 8: defense spend target of in total five percent. Sorry I 78 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 8: would not mention that, but at least I did it now. 79 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 8: But let's say that it's five percent, but I will 80 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 8: not say what is the NFL or breakup, but it 81 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 8: will be considerably norse for three percent when it comes 82 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 8: to the heart spent, and it will be also a 83 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 8: target on defensely later spending. We need this because all 84 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 8: of us we can never ever ever reach the capability 85 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 8: targets we have to. 86 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: Reach NATO sexually. General Marco Rutter's comments his first public 87 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: endorsement of the figure as a target for the Defense Alliance. 88 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: It comes as German Chancellor Fredrik Mertz said that Ukraine 89 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: has been given permission to use weapons from its allies 90 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: to launch strikes inside Russia with no range limits. Now 91 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 2: to the UK, there are plans to train one hundred 92 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: and twenty thousand British builders, engineers and care workers as 93 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: the country tries to curb migration without worsening the skills shortage. 94 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: The government plans to use three billion pounds plus higher 95 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: taxes on foreign workers to fund new apprenticeships in key sectors. 96 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 2: The drive highlights a problem for Labor, who wants to 97 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 2: oversee both of boom in building whilst also cutting down 98 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 2: on migration, so a central issue for the ruling Labor party. 99 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: And lastly, to King Charles. He has arrived in Canada 100 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: on his first visit to the country as it's head 101 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 2: of state. He's in Ottawa to open a new parliament. 102 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: At the invitation of Prime Minister Mark Carney. He will 103 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 2: read the Throne Speech setting out his government's agenda in Canada. 104 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: Bloomberg reports it's partly a move designed to send US 105 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: President Donald Trump a message about Canada's sovereignty after he 106 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: said that he wants it to become America's fifty first state. 107 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: Prime Minister Mark Carney says that that won't happen and 108 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 2: he is pleased to welcome the King to Canada. I 109 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: asked the King when I visited the United Kingdom in March, 110 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 2: within days of my becoming Prime Minister the first time. 111 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: His Majesty was very receptive and we're honored by his visitors. 112 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 2: Prime Minister Mark Carney speaking there as the Monarch prepares 113 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: to read the speech to Parliament for the first time. 114 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: Sin's nineteen seventy seven, an honor that is normally reserved 115 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: for the Governor General in Canada. So those are a 116 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: few of our top stories for you this morning. Let's 117 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: have a look at the markets. So European stocks jumped 118 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: yesterday because of the delay in US tariffs. They were 119 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: up one percent of the close Automotive and industrial goods 120 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: were amongst the leading gains. Futures, though, for European stocks 121 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: are down almost two tenths of one percent this hour. 122 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: S and P five hundred EMNI futures are soaring up 123 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: by nine tenths of one percent. The green back this 124 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: morning down for a third day on the Bloomberg Dollar 125 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: Spot Index, and we're down something like more than seven 126 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: percent for the dollar this year, So that's a major 127 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: topic we'll be thinking about today. Tenny US treasury yields 128 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: dropping three basis points at four to forty eight, Japan's 129 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: long end yields declining sharply after hitting a record last week. 130 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: There's an important debt auction on Wednesday for forty year 131 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: notes that's going to be closely watched. And then don't 132 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: forget today the start of a big run of US 133 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: data out, including US durable goods and consumer confidence data. 134 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 4: Today. 135 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: Right, those are the markets, and now in a moment, 136 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: we are going to be a big you. More details 137 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: on the jubilation that turned into devastation in Liverpool over 138 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: the weekend, and also this warning to US asset managers 139 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: about what it means if they follow Trump administration policies 140 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: perhaps too closely, ones which clash maybe with European values. 141 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: So we'll get into that in just a moment. But 142 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: there was another story that cornhile. I don't know whether 143 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: you've managed to see it yet. This is Tom Cruise 144 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: and of course his Mission Impossible movie that was a 145 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: huge hit over the weekend. There's a great piece by 146 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 2: Tony Cabatchio over the weekend. Tom Cruise really did get 147 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: a US aircraft carrier for the mission. Yeah, it's completely bonkers. 148 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: The US Navy and Air Force Special Operations they decided 149 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: to accept the mission and to help Cruise's secret agent 150 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 2: Ethan Huh and save the world, or at least to 151 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: make a bit of the movie about it. This is 152 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: the story on the blue Egg Turtle that has kind 153 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: of fascinated all of us the Final Reckoning. Of course, 154 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: Paramount reported a blowout budget for this movie four hundred 155 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: million dollars. Got a break though, because the carrier and 156 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: crew were already on schedule training missions, so they managed 157 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: to sort of get that assistance. Most if not all, 158 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: of the aircraft time was logged as official training requirements 159 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: and therefore not reimbursable, according to the Pentagon. Sadly, I've 160 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 2: not seen this movie yet, but I bet a lot 161 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: of you already have. It had a massive weekend, didn't it. 162 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: So one of the stories that I've been reading about 163 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: this morning, and the helping hand for one of America's 164 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 2: biggest stars. Now, let's turn back to our top story 165 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: this morning, a car plowed into crowds of Liverpool fans 166 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 2: who were celebrating their team winning the Premier League, leaving 167 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: almost fifty people injured. Join me now bergs a Tia 168 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: at a bio. Good morning, Tia. This was really awful, 169 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: wasn't it. It was such a celebratory weekend, a bank 170 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 2: holiday weekend, and the open top buses and crowds were 171 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: out to celebrate this victory, and then it just turned 172 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 2: into devastation. 173 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 4: What do we know about what happened? 174 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, Caroline, as you say, it was supposed to be 175 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 9: a day's celebration for the club and also for the city. 176 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 9: Hundreds of thousands of people had come out to celebrate the. 177 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 4: Team's Premier League victory. 178 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 9: It was a victory which had made them arguably the 179 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 9: most successful club in England, so there was this real 180 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 9: sense of jubilation, but that quickly did turn to terror 181 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 9: after the incident that happened on Water Street, which is 182 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 9: in Liverpool's city center, just after six pm on parade day. 183 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 9: Just moments before the incident occurred on Water Street, the 184 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 9: Liverpool FC bus and team had actually just paraded their 185 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 9: Premier League trophy from the top of an open top 186 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 9: bus as you meant, and just to give you a 187 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 9: bit of context, Water Street is just about a mile 188 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 9: before the end of the parade's designated route, so according 189 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 9: to Merseyside Police, a car collided with a number of 190 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 9: pedestrians who were celebrating the victory. The Ambulance Service says 191 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 9: that twenty seven people were taken to hospital in the aftermath, 192 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 9: with two including one child, seriously injured, and a further 193 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 9: twenty people were treated for injuries at the scene and 194 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 9: four people including a child, were lifted from beneath the car. 195 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 9: That's according to Merseyside's Fire chief. So really tragic scenes 196 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 9: happening on what was supposed to be a day of 197 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 9: celebration for the city of Liverpool. 198 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, it had been a day of celebration and 199 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: that the incident took place around six o'clock in the 200 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: evening and arrest made. 201 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 4: What have police said so? 202 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 9: The Merseyside Police held a press conference yesterday evening and 203 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 9: they also released a statement telling us that a fifty 204 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 9: three year old white British Man has been arrested and 205 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 9: the police do believe him to be the driver of 206 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:07,479 Speaker 9: the vehicle. There are also inquiries into the exact circumstances 207 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 9: leading up to the collision that are underway and specialist 208 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 9: officers have been put in place to support the injured 209 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 9: and their families. The police did also clarify that the 210 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 9: incident is not currently being treated as terrorism and that's 211 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 9: all we have from the police at this time is 212 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 9: they continue their investigations. 213 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: But the response on the club from the Premier League, 214 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: from the Prime Minister, a lot of people have made 215 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: some comments already. 216 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, we have. 217 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 9: Heard responses from a number of people so far. We've 218 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 9: heard from both the Prime Minister and the leader of 219 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 9: the opposition. So Kis Starma shared his thanks to the 220 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 9: police and the emergency services on x and he said 221 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 9: his thoughts were with those affected and similarly, the Conservative 222 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 9: leader Kemmy Beisenok also shared a similar sentiment on the platform. 223 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 9: Liverpool Football Club is understood to have boned the celebrations 224 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 9: for its own staff due to the incident. We often 225 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 9: forget this is not just the end of a successful 226 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 9: season for Liverpool, but it's the end of a football 227 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 9: season and all clubs really do tend to celebrate that 228 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 9: point in times, the end of a lot of hard 229 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 9: work for the staff. But those celebrations on hold for 230 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 9: the moment. They have confirmed that they're in touch with 231 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 9: the police as investigations continue. 232 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 4: They said they. 233 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 9: Will offer their full support and cooperation. They've also shared 234 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 9: thoughts for the victims in a statement, and also their 235 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 9: rivals Everton FC, who neighbor the club, have expressed their support. 236 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 9: They're putting on a united front in the face of 237 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 9: this incident. 238 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 4: Ok Ti, but thank you so much for being with me. 239 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, we are really hoping for the swift recovery of 240 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: anybody hurt in that incident. Bluebag's h at at Abio, 241 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: thank you for your reporting. Now a US asset managers 242 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: are coming under increasing scrutiny and losing mandates with European 243 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: pension funds. Amid concerns that America's investment industry is caving 244 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: into pressure from the Trump administration on basic principles, including 245 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,599 Speaker 2: climate change and on diversity, equity and inclusion. Joining me 246 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: now as Bloomberg Senior Editor for US Economics and Government, 247 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: Derek Wallbank, Derek, good morning. So there is this Dutch 248 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: pension fund huge assets under management PME, which has issued 249 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: a warning to US money managers. What are they saying exactly. 250 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 7: Well, thank you so much and good morning. Look. 251 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 10: PME is basically saying, quite simply that US funds are 252 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 10: not condemning what Trump is doing, how he's operating, how 253 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 10: he's handling issues including climate change, the judiciary, diversity inclusion, 254 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 10: other things of that nature. It's really a continuation of 255 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 10: a split that we're seeing between Europe and the United 256 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 10: States and a number of different areas. 257 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 7: Now. 258 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 10: European funds have the ability to choose who they want 259 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 10: to manage things, you know, and to be involved in. 260 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 7: What the are doing. 261 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 10: To put real quite simply, they're taking a moment at 262 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 10: this point, many of them. PM is by far not 263 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 10: alone to say, hang on a second, let's just see 264 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 10: sort of where we are, and if you are aligned 265 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 10: with what we're looking at doing now. I should say 266 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 10: here ESG sort of goes into three buckets. 267 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 7: Right. 268 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 10: There's offense you're trying to you're trying to gain alpha 269 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 10: and a differential in returns. 270 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 7: There's also like defense. 271 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 10: Of trying to stop having a potential regulatory issue, and 272 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 10: we do see some of these issues cropping up in 273 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 10: regulation as well. And then there's also values, right, and 274 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 10: this is where we're seeing the European funds speaking out. 275 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, on State Street has already lost some European pension 276 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: money because of this. It looks like US management managers 277 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: are basically court, aren't they between the Trump administration and 278 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: their goals and the Republican Party maybe more Republican leaning 279 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: state And then Europe and European standards. 280 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, well, and I mentioned the defense and regulation for 281 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 10: precisely this point, right, because Europe in a lot of ways, 282 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 10: and certainly I'm sitting in Singapore right now, and European 283 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 10: regulations are really a global standard. A lot of firms 284 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 10: have to use the European standards because they tend to 285 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 10: be the toughest. So if you work to the European standard, 286 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 10: you're sort of good throughout the way. The thing is 287 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 10: though in the United States there has been a backlash 288 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 10: too that certainly with some states. Texas is the big 289 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 10: one that have said, and hang on a second, we 290 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 10: don't like the way that you're doing this. We want 291 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 10: it done a different way, and often in polar opposition. 292 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 10: So it is sort of taking these firms, many of 293 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 10: which candidly would prefer to focus. 294 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 7: On making money, and putting. 295 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 10: Them a bit between a rock and a hard place 296 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 10: regulatory wise, between Europe and some of these conservative areas. 297 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 298 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and pme that Dutch pension fund manager says that 299 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: it's reviewing and is going to make a decision sort 300 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: of shortly and maybe in the next few weeks. Derek, 301 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 2: thank you so much for being with me. We'll be 302 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: continuing to track this story, of course, as you say globally. Bloomberg, 303 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: Senior editor for US Economics and Government, Derek Wallbank. Now 304 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: Here in the UK, the government's expected to confirm that 305 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: it has fully divested its holdings in Nowwest, meaning that 306 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 2: the bank will chart its own course nearly twenty years 307 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: since it was bailed out in the two thousand and 308 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: eight financial crisis. Plyempic's finance reporter will Shaw has been 309 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: reporting on this. The government finally stepping back will it 310 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: has been a pretty long road though, hasn't it. 311 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 7: It has. 312 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 11: So this all goes back seventeen years to the financial 313 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,239 Speaker 11: crisis and the collapse of what was then known as 314 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 11: the Royal Bank of Scotland. At the time, the bank 315 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 11: had a two point two trillion pound balance sheet and 316 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 11: around the world it employed nearly two hundred thousand staff. 317 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 11: And the newest that we know today is very different firm. 318 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 11: The balance sheet is just seven hundred and eight billion 319 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 11: pounds and the headcount is less than a third of 320 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 11: what it was at that time, and. 321 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 7: The intervening period saw huge restructuring. 322 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 11: In the first five years alone, the bank cut more 323 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 11: than thirty nine thousand jobs and quit over twenty countries, 324 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 11: and it would go on to pivot away for investment banking, 325 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 11: which had got it into the scrape it found itself, 326 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 11: and to focus on domestic commercial and retail banking instead. 327 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: The thing is the sale of the government stake in 328 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 2: that west has not been without controversy. What has the 329 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: bailout actually cost UK taxpayers? 330 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 11: So basically, after the crisis, Westminster made a series of 331 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 11: emergency cash injections that brought the its stake up to 332 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 11: a controlling eighty four percent, and that left UK taxpayers 333 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 11: shouldering a bill of nearly forty six billion pounds. Now 334 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 11: after the final sale, we calculate that the government will 335 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 11: be out of pocket by about ten billion pounds. 336 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 7: Now if you compare that with Lloyd's Banking Group. 337 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 11: By the time and that was bailed out, and by 338 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 11: the time it became fully private in twenty seventeen, the 339 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 11: Treasury had actually gained eight hundred and ninety four million pounds. 340 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 7: So obviously there's a lot more money. 341 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 11: A lot of money is being lost on that West. 342 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 11: The government would tell you it's not really the right 343 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 11: way of looking at it, and that without the rescue, 344 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 11: the UK's financial system might have collapsed. 345 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so then what for what about the future 346 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: of the bank. Then they've been on a bit of 347 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: an acquisition spree recently. What's the shape of NatWest, which 348 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 2: actually is last year UK focused bank, isn't it? 349 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 7: It's very UK focused? Yeah? 350 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 11: So last year they acquired the majority of banking assets 351 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 11: from the retailer Sainsbury's and they also around the same 352 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 11: time they picked up a mortgage portfolio from Metro Bank 353 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 11: in a two point five billion pounds deal, and more 354 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 11: recently it was reported that they'd shown interest in Sandander's 355 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 11: UK Banking tail banking business, though they were ultimately rebuffed 356 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 11: on that affront. So they are yet, like you say, 357 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 11: they are showing a renewed interest in acquisitions. Paul Thwaite, 358 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 11: who's the CEO today, said at the annual general meeting 359 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 11: earlier this year that if they have the ability to 360 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 11: add scale and add capability, they'll have a look at it. 361 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 11: But he was keen to stress, as he always does, 362 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 11: that any deals aren't likely to transform thatwere sob all 363 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 11: direction and that the firm will remain disciplined, which is 364 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 11: essentially it was undisciplined acquisitions that brought it to the 365 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 11: verge of disaster back in two thousand and eight. 366 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. 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