1 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: I just want my daughter Ashley home. She has three 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: kids that miss her. The parents of Ashley Morris Mullis 3 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: having increased a reward for information leading to the recovery 4 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: of their year old daughter, she went missing September. Results. 5 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: We want results. What's going on? Who's responsible? This is 6 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: crime stories with Nancy Grace. It's rough. She's been missing 7 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: way too long. She's been gone from her family for 8 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: too long. Her kids need her, her family need her. 9 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: We love her, We miss her dearly. We prayed that 10 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: they might be reunited here and now in this life. 11 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: The lord of this is not to be then we 12 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: prayed for justice, that this evil thing be exposed and 13 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: brought the life you know. Last night I sat on 14 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: the floor of the JFK and the LaGuardia Airport until midnight. 15 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: I stayed overnight in a hotel that was between a 16 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: Kennedy's not Kentucky, but Kennedy's Fried Chicken and a Chinese 17 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: funeral home. I slept for exactly three hours and ten minutes, 18 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: and I got up, sat up in the bed, put 19 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: on my boots and walked out with my bags. Why. 20 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to get home to my twins. I had 21 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: to leave them for two nights with my mom and 22 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 1: a babysitter and a sister in law. But I had 23 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: to find them. I had to get back to them. 24 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: And today I'm telling you the story of a father 25 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: who was still looking for his daughter. I Nancy Grace, 26 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: this is crime Stories. That father is Don Morris, that 27 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: daughter is Ashley. Don. Thank you so much for being 28 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: with us. Please tell me when you first learned the 29 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:28,279 Speaker 1: moment you realized something wasn't right, Ashley was gone? Well, 30 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: uh we Uh, me and my wife had asked my son, 31 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: you know, called my son talked to her on a 32 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: daily basis and uh. It was after our family reunion 33 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: and she had been seen at the family reunion on September. 34 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: And a few days later, I asked my son if 35 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: you had heard from my daughter Ashley and he said no. 36 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: And he says, Dad, it's something's all right, because I 37 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: hear from Ashley every day, and me and the wife, 38 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: she was coming by, you know, every other day, or 39 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, the least, you know, at least every week. 40 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: So a couple more days had passed by, and I 41 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: asked my son if she had heard from her, and 42 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: he said no, and sold me and the wife went 43 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: to her house and tried to locate her at her house. 44 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: So at this point we didn't find nobody at the house, 45 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: so we wrote a note on the door. Well, we'd 46 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: put this note on the door, hoping that you know 47 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: this Dan York Feller, would you know or Ashley would 48 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: see this note the contact me. Well, uh, nobody contacted. 49 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: Two more days, we tried to we've been trying to 50 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: car the phone, and no answers on the phone, and 51 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: and you know, no answers at the door. So like 52 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: you said, we'd have to note and uh, so nobody 53 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: contacts us. So we wait, you know, a couple more days, 54 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: and we put in another her load on the door 55 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: because we noticed that one was missing. So we put 56 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: another note off the door. You know, please contact us. 57 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: We're concerned, we're worried. Wait wait wait wait wait, let 58 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: me understand something done. You said the first night was missing, 59 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: the first night was gone, yes, yes, yes, okay, So 60 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: we keep said, you know, we didn't know if the 61 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: wind bloated off the door, you know, or you know, 62 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: somebody took it off the door. You know, she might 63 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: not have got it. So we put another note on 64 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: the door. And uh, you know, no no communication, nobody 65 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: called us back or nothing. So we contact her boyfriend, 66 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: which is Danior. He was twice her age. But we 67 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: contact him and he said that she had left. But 68 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: after he avoided us for two weeks, he and we 69 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: had to track him a minute. He says, she just 70 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: up and left, just didn't call. You didn't say, daddy, 71 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: You're never gonna believe what happened. I gotta go nothing 72 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: just bam gone. Right. Yet something was wrong, right, and 73 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: we didn't And this is when we went to the 74 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: police department. Well the police department Mike Scroggins was the 75 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: chief of police of Delaware Kevity, which come to find out, 76 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: was related to this day in York. So we don't 77 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: feel there was a thorough investigation from the start. Even 78 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: at this point, they still haven't investigated here property, his 79 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: rental property. Uh you know, they haven't used cadaver dogs 80 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: nowhere on his properties. And you know, as we've done 81 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: were research, we found out more about this guy that 82 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: he was doing drugs. Um you know that his kid 83 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: was involved with moving my daughter's belongings. His daughter and 84 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: his son, me and Leandrew, my wife had went over 85 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: there and of course we had called the police, Hey, 86 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: somebody's moving Ashley's belongings and say just let him move 87 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: her belongings. I mean, they took all everything out of 88 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: that house and left with everything in there, so there's 89 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: no evidence of nothing. They took everything out of that house. 90 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: They would not let me have my daughters belonging if 91 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: they moved on her stuff. Where did they put it? 92 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. We've seen a moving van that went 93 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: to York Town and we've seen my daughter's organ through 94 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: the window. So we called the police and we told him, 95 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, we want that truck investigated because you know, uh, 96 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: this truck had been sighted up nights before that by 97 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: the neighbors telling us that that truck was pulled up 98 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: through the yard backed up to the back door at 99 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: one thirty in the morning. Now I think that's when 100 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: he took my daughter's body. How that apps in this 101 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: moving truck. Well, a couple of days later, we've seen 102 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: this same moving truck moving her belongings out, So we 103 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: called the police and the police wouldn't let us have 104 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: none of her belongings. Then, Uh, a couple of days later, 105 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: we've seen another truck moving some more of our belongings. Well, 106 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: we take the plate numbers of the trucks and one 107 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: of them his lawyer's truck taking her belongings out at 108 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 1: this point. So it's been messed up from the start. 109 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: But to come to find out the sheriff was related 110 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: to Dan York. It was his cousin. So that's why 111 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: I think so much was covered up from the beginning 112 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: in this whole case. And let me understand something. How 113 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: long has it now been since you have spoken to 114 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: or seen your daughter? It's been free well September two 115 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: thousand thirteen. Ill those four years, not a word, not 116 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: one word. I believe he'd done something to my daughter. 117 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: When you go to the police, what do they say, Well, 118 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: sometimes they don't even answer their phone. You know they 119 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: know who it is. They don't answer their phones. They 120 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: don't call me back. Uh. I've took it to court 121 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: twice here in Delaware County over my granddaughter because uh, 122 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: we got guardianship over Ashley Okay, ships he was dead 123 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: when he went to court and we got awarded guardianship. 124 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: We should have got the baby because he's a lawyer. Uh. 125 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: Jill Gonzalez went to court for this man and he 126 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: was a dead man. And now on that day we 127 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: got guardianship, but his wife had uh, they had took 128 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: off to Florida where they had sent her daughter down 129 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: there to put her in the house, to act like 130 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: they had been living there for six months, so they'd 131 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: have a residency in Florida. And then they took in Florida, 132 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: they took oh, well, after he had passed away, she 133 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: had took and adopted my granddaughter, Abigail. And how has 134 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: has adopted her in Florida and since has changed her name. Oh, 135 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: my stars. And this is the biggest legal mess. Oh 136 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: my stars, this is a right there was There was 137 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: no DNA to even proved that he was in fathers 138 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: in the state India. Okay, you've got so many legal 139 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: issues going so many different directions. Let me get back 140 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: to the first one. And I'm not saying it's less 141 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: important than the granddaughter, but let me get back to 142 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: her disappearance. What kind of investigation took place? What? If any? 143 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: I don't think very good one at all, because see, 144 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: when we went to the mayor in Delaware County, I 145 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: had asked for the file, you know, uh, the documentation 146 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: that the police had had and the officer had told 147 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: me at this point, well, dog, you know there's there's 148 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: hundreds of pieces of paper, and it costs so much 149 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: for a piece of paper. I said, I don't care 150 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: how much paperwork theree is and how much it is 151 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: a piece. I want the paperwork. So when I when 152 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: I go to get the paperwork, there's a page and 153 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: a half, and every bit of that page and a half, 154 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: I believe I still got the paper where it was 155 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: the case file paper that I went and got off 156 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: the tops and some of us blacked out. Then all 157 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: the things that they had done, none none of it 158 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: was in numerical order. None of the dates was numerical 159 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: order or nothing more. So the paperwork he had done 160 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: was niel enough. Okay, I want to go back to 161 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: the day she goes missing. Okay, the last time you 162 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: saw her? I know there was a family reunion. Is 163 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: that when you saw her last? Well, my family absolved her. 164 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: I've seen me and the wife had seen her on 165 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: the nine Kids and we didn't make it to the 166 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: family union, but my family had seen her. I think 167 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: it was either the twenty second or there is when 168 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: my family union and when when you saw her did 169 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: she suggest there was any problem within the relationship. It 170 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: was anything going on out of the out of the ordinary. 171 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: The last time I've seen her, she looked worried. I mean, 172 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: she just looked worried. And I still hit myself in 173 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: the head per saying, watch her wrong. You know, I 174 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: didn't ask her what was wrong, and I probably should 175 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: have stepped in, but you know, my daughter at this 176 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: point was twenty seven years old, you know, and I 177 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: didn't want to meddle in her business, you know what 178 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: I mean. And uh, I've seen in her face something 179 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: was wrong. What did you say to her anything? Well, 180 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: we were just sitting and talked and she had brought Abigail, 181 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: my granddaughter, over to visit with us, and you know, 182 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: we's just sitting I think I bought us supper that evening, 183 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: and you know we sat here in eighth and uh, 184 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: it just you know, I just seen a depressing look 185 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: on her face. But to come to find out down 186 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: the road what was going on was she and as 187 00:12:55,200 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: your guy was having one financial problems and she was 188 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: married to Justin Mallis, which he's a whole another story 189 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: which that ship and she would soon have been allowed 190 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: to get divorced because she wouldn't even at the court 191 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: to get divorced on that situation. But Justin's cousin is 192 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: the one that introduced her to Dan to get service 193 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: work done on her band because he owned to automotive groups. 194 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: That's how they first met. Back to when you saw her, 195 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: she seemed worried, and it turned out that she and 196 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: the boyfriend, we're having financial problems. And this is what 197 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: this is what Crystal Mollis had told me. And she 198 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: also told me that Ashley told her that she was 199 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: going to go to Dan's wife and tell him that 200 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: that was Dan's baby that she conceived. Why Dan was 201 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: still married to her because c Dan was playing both 202 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: women at the time. Ashley was living in Dan's little 203 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: promptly and evidently dan Or was given Ashley money to 204 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: pay his wife and she had not known about you 205 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: know then date, So she was going to go kill 206 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: his wife's once. And I think that's what was worrying 207 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: her so much, because she was, you know, uh, having 208 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: money issues with him and also was gonna put the 209 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: word to his wife that they had a kid together 210 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: and it was date. That is a loaded scenario. All 211 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: kind of things can go wrong with that scenario. So 212 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: have you talked to the boyfriend? What did he tell you? 213 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: Last time I've seen him? My wife demanded he bring 214 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: Abigail over it. Well, he told us that she had 215 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: just helped to Lafe and she he was providing the 216 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: van for and he told police if she left in 217 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: the brand card. Well, last time we've seen her, she 218 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: was in a red maroon meet and he was flying 219 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: that band forward. Well when we caught up with him, 220 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: was in Anderson and he was driving at Men and 221 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: he had my granddaughter. He took off from my granddaughter. 222 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: But he come by here one day and I told 223 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: him myself, wud just think you out of that truck 224 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: and beach here? But you know, I mean, because you 225 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: don't let somebody go for two weeks and not even 226 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: notified the parents and the grandparents and the baby, and 227 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: say Ashley took off, especially after we don't left two 228 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: notes on his door. You know, then he starts moving 229 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: on her belongings out. You know, he can't do that. 230 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: That's against long. You know, if she's rinting that house, 231 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, he can't bower belongings out until he gets 232 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: poured ordered too, you know, And he just does what 233 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,359 Speaker 1: he wants because the chief of police is as good. 234 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: It's just been messed up from the start. Man she 235 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: It's just been one big, terrible, frustrating headache when you 236 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: go out, you go out on weekends and you put 237 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: out flyers and you look for her. Where do you go? Well, 238 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: I've been all over this town of months. I've been 239 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: to Rorton, I've been to York Town, York towns. You've 240 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: got to say where you don't You ain't the land 241 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: to put posters up. I put them on every telephone 242 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: pole there because I didn't share Nancy. If they take 243 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: me to jail for looking for my kid, they take 244 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: me to jail. And I've stood on corners with signs, 245 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: have stood on every side of town with signs, and 246 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: I have stood downtown with signs. I'll tell you what 247 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: I think, Alan, regardless of what's in the file, let 248 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: me just break it down. Typically, police are in touch 249 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: with the victims family and they keep them abreast and updated, 250 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: not all the time, but to let them know what's 251 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: happening in the case. And Alan, I really believe that 252 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: this is a time to call on the Attorney General 253 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: and have an independent inspection about what's going on in 254 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: the case, don't you This is so bizarre, convoluted, and sad. 255 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: We will be talking with the lead detective. We're gonna 256 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: have him on the phone, so we'll find out what's 257 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 1: going on that end. But somebody needs to go over 258 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: somebody's head on this. Now. Let me make sure I 259 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: understand this boyfriend who you suspect he has now deceased. 260 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: Is that what I'm hearing? Or am I confused? Yeah? Yeah, 261 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: and it's yes, he's he's deceased, and uh, I got 262 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: his testor chip goods. But he died the day before 263 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: I went to Port. And if lawyer still went to 264 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: Port and Jessie, boy, the thing that would really be 265 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: eating me up right now as a grandfather is not 266 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: being able to see those grandkids. I mean, there is 267 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: that mystery, horrible mystery about your daughter. But now you 268 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: also have lost your granddaughter and she is off in 269 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: another state with apparently a woman who's not related to 270 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: her because she was related to the person who you 271 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: believe killed your daughter. Is that the case? This is crazy, 272 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: But to talk and all of hearing loom in Florida. 273 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: She lives in Georgiatouch. She lives in one citty over 274 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: from me. She just went to Florida to get documentation. 275 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: Then when I go to Delaware County, do tell me 276 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: I got to go to Port and Georida to do 277 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: MC court work there. When the State of Indiana says 278 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna have DNA within so many days and monch 279 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: and that never happy. What we have to do is 280 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: figure out what to do now. And I think the 281 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: only is not getting answers from local police. So what 282 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: has to be done now is to go to the 283 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: local the state a g and call for an independent investigation. 284 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: It is just that simple, guys. We are talking about 285 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: a beautiful young woman, Ashley Morris Mullis. Practically every weekend, 286 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: her dad Dawn can be seen every Sunday standing on 287 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: one street corner or another with handmade posters handing out 288 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: or displaying information about his little girl. He goes every weekend, 289 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: he tries, he looks for her, he puts up posters. 290 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: He's never given up. And now his granddaughter is beyond 291 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: his reach as well. And with us today that father 292 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: that has never given up, Don Morris on the search 293 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: for his daughter, Ashley Morris mullis right now. I want 294 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: to thank our sponsor, simply Safe, who's making our podcast 295 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: in our search for Ashley possible. Simply Safe at simply 296 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: safe dot com makes home security available for everyone at 297 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: four a month and easy to install. I cover so 298 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: many cases, and I've prosecuted so many cases when a 299 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: home security system would have made all the difference. Go 300 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: to simply save dot come slash Nancy for another ten 301 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: off two Don, Don, My question is have you thought 302 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: of going higher above the police department? Now that's I've 303 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: been to clime stoppers, I've been to the FBI, I've 304 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: been to state police and I get the same results. 305 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: Not no help. Okay, you know what were you haven't 306 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: been yet the state Attorney General's office, and that's where 307 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: I think you need to go. And I'm going to 308 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: get that information and contact them along with you. That's 309 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: what Alan, Duke and I are going to do. Guys 310 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: joining me is Ashley's dad, Don, who is still looking 311 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: for his daughter. We're joining the search. Don. If your 312 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: daughter could hear you today, what is your message to her? Well, 313 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: my message would be to contact me and your mother 314 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: and he's us of the pain and suffering we're going 315 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: through at this point because, uh, it is terribly hard 316 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: to concentrate on any one thing. It's hard to concentrate 317 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: on work. It's you know, life is miserable. You know. 318 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: We uh love our daughter with all her heart and 319 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, if she's out there somewhere, contact us, let 320 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: us know. But at this point I don't believe that 321 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: because Athlete was one not to never contact us. You know, 322 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: if she needed something, she'd come to her dad to 323 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: get it, you know, And I'm sure there's needs that 324 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: she's had within the last three years that she would 325 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: have contacted me and letting me know this. Uh, you know, 326 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: because I truly believe she's She's not high. Now, John, 327 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: do you believe your daughter has Do you believe she's 328 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: been murdered? I believe this man has done something to 329 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: my daughter and that's what killed him. He had a 330 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: heart attack and that's what killed his son, and that's 331 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: what killed Strogan's all three because Carmen took its place 332 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: on all three of them, and all three of them 333 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: is that as well? So you really believe you you 334 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: believe your daughter is not missing, you think she's been killed? Yes, 335 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 1: I believe this Again, to simply safe. He was making 336 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: this search for Ashley, this renewed search for Ashley possible. 337 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: Thank you for being our sponsor and our partner. You 338 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: know it's a tough world, but I still believe in 339 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: Lady Justice. I still believe it unsolved. Homicides can be solved, 340 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: missing people can be found if we work together. Simply 341 00:22:55,000 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: say thank you with me is Ashley's dad. He's our 342 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: thoughts and our prayers, and more than that, he's in 343 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: our efforts when we're going to try our best to 344 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: help him find his daughter and not only that, be 345 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: reunited with his granddaughter. Nancy Grace Crime Stories signing off 346 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: goodbye friend,