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Speaker 1: you consumer habits are changing with family. This week is tough,

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Speaker 1: thinking today is is a longer Middle Cough mail bag.

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Speaker 1: I have a ton and I mean a ton of questions.

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Speaker 1: Gonna probably try to rattle through a bunch of them. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Uh So hopefully everyone. I'm very very thankful for this

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Speaker 1: start with two things, actually several things. First and foremost,

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Speaker 1: And listen, I don't know anything about Joe Judge Beside,

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Speaker 1: Robert Salo was hired because he was a great defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: I understand hiring an older coach who's a CEO, even

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't really know Joe Judge, Like, what

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Speaker 1: a good defenses. Let's not act like he's just the

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Speaker 1: hate Baker Mayfield. But then the more I watch Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: I don't like what am I supposed to say, Like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Colin is wrong on Baker Mayfield. No, I you couldn't

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Speaker 1: pay me to want Baker Mayfield as my quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: completely disagree with the sarctake. I just when I see

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Speaker 1: a take, either agree or disagree with it. There's no like,

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Speaker 1: do I need to pair his views? Like I don't

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Speaker 1: give a ship what those guys do Klatt or Nick

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Speaker 1: Wright or whatever. I just I give my take on

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Speaker 1: an opinion. It's not really there's no conscious effort of

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Speaker 1: like I need to support this take or a do't

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Speaker 1: I I really don't care. I even hate the word takes.

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Speaker 1: I just see something and I have a thought about it,

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Speaker 1: and if I disagree or agree, then I just say it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't just do something to create something. I'm not

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Speaker 1: into that world. I'm a podcaster. I can say whatever

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Speaker 1: I want. I'm not in a hot take world. Literally,

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Speaker 1: my opinions, like, you either listen or you don't. You

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Speaker 1: have to seek me out. I'm not on a network,

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Speaker 1: so you either like the podcast or you don't you

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Speaker 1: like my opinions. I think it's pretty clear. I don't

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Speaker 1: just like follow the leader or go against something just

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Speaker 1: to go against something. I just say whatever I think

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Speaker 1: based on whatever I read or hear. You know, UM

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Speaker 1: A little offended by that, I really am. I'm curious,

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Speaker 1: as you know the rookie of the year at this point,

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Speaker 1: being a Bengals guy, I'm still on the Jamaar Chase train,

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Speaker 1: but a few mediocre weeks plus a growing Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: hype train makes me think the tides are shifting. Also,

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Speaker 1: who is your m v P. Honestly, I haven't even

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Speaker 1: thought about the Rookie of the Year. I would guess

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Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase would be squarely in the mix. Uh, Davante

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Speaker 1: Smith's having some moments. I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not like I've never voted on awards, so I'll

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Speaker 1: be honest, I don't even give a shit. I really

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Speaker 1: don't care. At least middle of the season my m

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Speaker 1: v P. I don't see. I don't is this. We

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Speaker 1: got seven games left, I would guess. I don't even known.

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Speaker 1: I don't have one. I really don't you Kyler's miss games,

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Speaker 1: Rogers Aaron. You can still put Aaron Rodgers in the mix.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady's Partaby falling off. I'm not good at that game,

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Speaker 1: you know. I'm just I don't know what. Let the

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Speaker 1: season end and then I'll have an opinion. Like mid season,

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Speaker 1: I don't know because I don't vote on awards, so

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Speaker 1: I don't really spend much time for thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: Coach of the Year right now to me is either

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Speaker 1: rabel Or or Belichick. I'm a pretty big Bills fan,

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Speaker 1: but the past few games even the wins versus the

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Speaker 1: Jets have got me worried. It seems like our Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl was the win versus the Chiefs. Not to mention

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Speaker 1: the upcoming schedule. Seems the teams can exploit our weakness,

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Speaker 1: the best that being having a strong run game and

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Speaker 1: solid defense and force Josh and the throws. Saints, Pat's Bucks, Pats, Panthers.

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Speaker 1: In all seriousness, they could go one and four, oh

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Speaker 1: and five. They're not gonna go. We can't overreact. They're

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Speaker 1: really good still. They have a really good quarterback, they

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Speaker 1: have good offensive weapons, they have a good defense. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna be fine. Now. Can they sweep the Patriots? Probably not,

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Speaker 1: But they better win one of those two games. So

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Speaker 1: I'm with you there. They better win one of those

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Speaker 1: two games. They should beat the Saints, they should eat

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Speaker 1: the Panthers. Um, I think you'll be okay. You trust me,

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Speaker 1: You'll be okay. If I was a football fan, I

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Speaker 1: would still want to have a roster like the Bills.

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Speaker 1: After being a loyal listener to three and Out podcasts

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Speaker 1: over the years, I can honestly say this, the podcast

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Speaker 1: three and Out is not only my favorite. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to read too many compliments. Here's my podcast question.

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Speaker 1: See this guy likes me more than the other guy

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Speaker 1: that was talking ship with Yesterday's lost to the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: I get it, we got out coached, we got out played,

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Speaker 1: we lost. But all I hear afterwards is how good

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs defense is and the greatest turnaround the season

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Speaker 1: ever that held the Dallas and nine points and blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. Can we maybe pump the brakes

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Speaker 1: a bit? Why isn't anyone talking about Dallas without Amari

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Speaker 1: that's big or more importantly, without both left tackle and

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Speaker 1: left guard. Then Zeke gets hurt than Ceedee Lamb and

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Speaker 1: both Randy Gregory and Lawrence out, like come on, of

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Speaker 1: the boys were out. I'm with you, it was it

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Speaker 1: was football, you know, you just you get judged on

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Speaker 1: the winner lost that week. We don't go down all

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Speaker 1: the time unless your quarterbacks out, Like who are they missing?

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Speaker 1: Who do they have? Just part of the nature? I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs beat a couple weeks ago the Packers, and

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Speaker 1: you said they beat the Packers. Well, yeah, Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: wasn't there. We don't really spend that much time talking

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Speaker 1: about they just beat the Packers. So I you guys

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Speaker 1: will be fine, but you better start winning. And you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're listening to this, I guess on Friday, hopefully

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Speaker 1: beat the Raiders because if you didn't, then we got

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Speaker 1: some problems. But yeah, you miss ceedee lamp Amari's stud

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Speaker 1: Zeke's not the biggest loss, but your two pass rushers

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Speaker 1: are a big deal, especially when you're playing my homes Um,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't freak out. You guys still gonna win the East.

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Speaker 1: My question is do you think the Patriots were somehow

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Speaker 1: able to get a higher seed than what they are now,

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Speaker 1: like the third seed. Would they have a chance to

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Speaker 1: do some damage in the postseason. Yes, there isn't a

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Speaker 1: soul alive that's gonna want to play Belichick in a

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Speaker 1: playoff game. Not one person. I don't care if Mac

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Speaker 1: Jones quarterback. I don't care if you're his quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: don't care if I'm his quarterback. That guy in a

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Speaker 1: playoff situation is dangerous. So no one, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: learn a lot about the Patriots this next month. Right

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Speaker 1: Bills twice, Colts and the Titans. Writers fan from Ohio here,

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Speaker 1: I think Mayock is a good GM and would hate

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Speaker 1: to see another rebuild. What coaching connections, uh, that would

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Speaker 1: complement his knowledge cars skill set, that would promote a

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Speaker 1: positive Raider culture in the future. I think you have

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Speaker 1: to go offensive coach, no matter what. I think, Doug

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Speaker 1: Peterson makes a lot of sense for the Raiders. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I also don't know if Ma's gonna survive. I I

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Speaker 1: really don't. He was on the hot seat coming into

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Speaker 1: the season. You know, he had he couldn't control the

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Speaker 1: Gruden thing. He had nothing to do with Henry Ruggs

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Speaker 1: but man and then our Net, which was the guy

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Speaker 1: that he pushed for with the guns, got fired. I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna get you know, if you're listening to

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Speaker 1: this and they just lost the Cowboys, they still gotta

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Speaker 1: play the Chargers again. They still gotta play the Chiefs again.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I I think they're in major

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Speaker 1: trouble of just spiraling. Now. If they beat the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: who know, maybe everyone's feeling good today, but Derek is

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Speaker 1: not playing well since Henry disappeared. Um, I think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna miss the playoffs again, obviously. I don't know, man.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Mark Davis wants to start over. I

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Speaker 1: think it's the last thing in a million years he

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Speaker 1: wants to do. But I don't know if he has

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Speaker 1: a choice if they go seven and ten. I really don't,

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Speaker 1: but I think I'm telling you if he fires everyone,

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Speaker 1: Lewis Riddeck, Doug Peterson, Louis loves the Raiders, him and

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Speaker 1: Dougger Boys, I could see that Lewis Riddeck, Doug Peterson,

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Speaker 1: Oakland or Vegas Raiders. That would be my prediction. And

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Speaker 1: if Mike Mayock survives, I could also see Doug Peterson

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Speaker 1: coming in. They need to get someone with some experience.

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Speaker 1: They just do because there's too much weird ship going on.

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Speaker 1: You cannot hire, like I said a fourty year old

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Speaker 1: CEO head coach, go hire a guy with experience they

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Speaker 1: can call offensive place. But also you gotta decide, like

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Speaker 1: are you gonna give Derek another contract? Because it was

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Speaker 1: a no brain or a month ago and now it's like, wow,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Now Derek would have a ton of value,

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Speaker 1: but he's claimed that he would retire if he doesn't.

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Speaker 1: You know, if he would not play for any other

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Speaker 1: team but the Raiders. It's kind of a weird situation.

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Speaker 1: Audios have a good Thanksgiving weekend and see everyone next week.

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Speaker 1: The volume