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Speaker 1: It is Wins the April twenty eight, twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: season sixteen, episode number one oh seven. Welcome to the
Speaker 1: latest edition of The Break. We are presented by Geico
Speaker 1: and we were alive from the SWBC Mortgage studios at
Speaker 1: the Star. We got a lot to talk about today.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow we'll be the NFL Draft, and so we're gonna
Speaker 1: get you guys ready for that. We're gonna go through
Speaker 1: each position and talk about what the Cowboys could use
Speaker 1: and uh and where we think they may use some
Speaker 1: of their picks and um, and just go up the
Speaker 1: whole thing. Get you guys ready. We'll by the end
Speaker 1: of the show, we will nail these guys down on
Speaker 1: who who they think the Cowboys will pick with their
Speaker 1: first pick and um, and make sure that you guys
Speaker 1: are ready for the draft tomorrow. All right, So first
Speaker 1: we didn't need to talk a little bit about Sean
Speaker 1: Lee yesterday he makes the announcement, or at least as
Speaker 1: the press conference where Sean made the formal announcement that
Speaker 1: he is retiring from the NFL. My first question for
Speaker 1: you guys is just if you were going to wrap
Speaker 1: up Sean's career and like what your thoughts are in
Speaker 1: his career and what he meant to this team, what
Speaker 1: would it be. Let's start with you, Nick. He was
Speaker 1: a really good player. That's that's where I think he was.
Speaker 1: I mean, he could have been better had he played
Speaker 1: longer and been on the field more. He missed fifty
Speaker 1: eight games. That's that's almost four years of games really,
Speaker 1: and so you know, he could have made more Pro
Speaker 1: Bowls probably, um, you know, and then then he would
Speaker 1: would be talking about you know, Ring of Honor and
Speaker 1: maybe more than that, but not likely. But I mean,
Speaker 1: just could have had more had he been on the
Speaker 1: field more. But when he was on the field, he
Speaker 1: was one of the better linebackers they've ever had. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, Jason Witten gets a lot of credit for this,
Speaker 1: and rightfully so, but I just you know, Shan Lee
Speaker 1: is just you know, if you want to see how
Speaker 1: a professional football player operates, That's what I think of
Speaker 1: when I think of shan Lee. Just a consummate professional.
Speaker 1: He gets a lot of credit for grinding tape, but um,
Speaker 1: you know, just the way he conducts himself in general,
Speaker 1: like all business, all business, and when he needs to
Speaker 1: be a surprisingly fun guy when he doesn't when it's
Speaker 1: not business time, but like you know, when when it's
Speaker 1: time to get down to business. I don't think there
Speaker 1: was anybody who was more about his business than shan Lee. Um.
Speaker 1: I think he one of the better players of the
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett era and would have been even better if
Speaker 1: not for bad luck with injuries. Um, if I had
Speaker 1: to guess, yeah, like I don't. I don't think he
Speaker 1: makes the Ring of Honor, which is unfortunate because if
Speaker 1: he'd been healthier, I think he would have. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: like right right there on that borderline, and definitely from
Speaker 1: you know, the time that I've covered the team, which
Speaker 1: is twenty thirteen, I think, you know, twenty ten to now,
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the best handful of players
Speaker 1: that this team had when he was available. He is
Speaker 1: pretty close to perfect in my eyes. In my eyes.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's exactly everything that you would want a
Speaker 1: player to be minus the injuries. Of course, everyone knows
Speaker 1: that that's what has affected him the most during his
Speaker 1: whole career. But other than that, I mean, god, just
Speaker 1: everything about him. I mean, he has leadership in him.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that you can truly see how much
Speaker 1: he cares about the team and how good of a
Speaker 1: teammate he is. And he proved that when Leyton got here,
Speaker 1: and like to me, I was curious to see how
Speaker 1: that was gonna work out, but no, he did not
Speaker 1: feel like anything. He was there and he helped Layton
Speaker 1: and did not feel you know, a different story. But like,
Speaker 1: for example, what happened when Dad got here and Tony
Speaker 1: got hurt and kind of how that dynamic was very
Speaker 1: different as to what shan Lee's dynamic was when Layton
Speaker 1: got here and and Shanlee wasn't able to be on
Speaker 1: the field. So I just I admire Shawn Lee and uh,
Speaker 1: and it really sucks because he's definitely a guy that
Speaker 1: puts in the work and it's just very unfortunate that
Speaker 1: he suffered through so many injuries. But he just you
Speaker 1: know that it wasn't because he didn't try. He tried
Speaker 1: his best when he gave everything he could. For sure,
Speaker 1: we say this a lot. I think the big thing,
Speaker 1: one of the biggest things that would surprise fans is
Speaker 1: how many guys in the NFL don't like love football.
Speaker 1: You know, some of these guys it's a job or
Speaker 1: they're just really good at it. It's a means to
Speaker 1: an end, to you know, be you know, get what
Speaker 1: they want out of life. That's not shan Lee. That
Speaker 1: like Shan Lee is that guy who like eats breeze,
Speaker 1: sleeps football. It's all he wants to do. It's all
Speaker 1: he wants to talk about. Um. Not everybody in an
Speaker 1: NFL locker room is like that, but he definitely wants. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my favorite Sean Lee story. I was trying to think
Speaker 1: about some you know, like, what's my Shawn Lee story
Speaker 1: other than when he uh walked up our stairs with
Speaker 1: us with you forgot about that? Yeah that was awesome. Um, well,
Speaker 1: I'll just say it. I mean it was Brian that
Speaker 1: brought us and he put his jersey on and walked
Speaker 1: up with the cake and I think he even said
Speaker 1: something he was like I heard it. Somebody's birthday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like he can play along and all that, but but
Speaker 1: I remember his rookie year. We did the back when
Speaker 1: we did the train from Oxnard down to San Diego
Speaker 1: for a preseason game, and um we he was his
Speaker 1: his rookie season and I was like, gonna do an
Speaker 1: interview with him, and the PR was trying to set
Speaker 1: up an interview with him, so I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll do it on the train. And so it's the
Speaker 1: day before the game and this his rookie year, and
Speaker 1: he's like, nah no, I can't do it. I have
Speaker 1: to watch tape. And I was like what, Like, what
Speaker 1: is that like the day before the game? You know,
Speaker 1: you rookie year. And I thought, well, one of two things.
Speaker 1: Either he's already figured out how to get away from
Speaker 1: doing media interviews, or two he really is just that
Speaker 1: focused in doing stuff. And I think it's a combination
Speaker 1: of both. I think he kind of didn't love talking
Speaker 1: to the media, but he did it. But he also
Speaker 1: he was just a study er and that was happening
Speaker 1: since since day one. I wish more people were like
Speaker 1: him on the team. His preferred cleats stopped being made
Speaker 1: like a long time ago, and he used to like him,
Speaker 1: and the equipment staff would like scour any website that
Speaker 1: sold sporting goods just so he could get this whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't even know the model, but like he had
Speaker 1: to have this cleat and so like anytime if he
Speaker 1: could get the equipment guys to find a pair on sale,
Speaker 1: or if he saw him somewhere like just buy him whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't care, Like I don't care how much they cost.
Speaker 1: He just had to have that certain like the attention
Speaker 1: to detail, just the stuff that he thought about. I
Speaker 1: just it cracks me out. I would love to know
Speaker 1: if that was a shoe that was like back from
Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties or sixties, it was it was like
Speaker 1: a twenty eleven Air Max or so, I don't know
Speaker 1: if it wasn't. Yeah, I don't know what it was,
Speaker 1: but he he was like, I need I need my leads,
Speaker 1: and I'll do what I gotta do to get him.
Speaker 1: It'd be such a great story though, if it was
Speaker 1: like these nineteen seventy pair of shoes, and because I
Speaker 1: kind of got yeah, you know that kind of thing,
Speaker 1: it would feel really great if that was it. Um, So,
Speaker 1: does this in your opinions change anything about how the
Speaker 1: Cowboys should be addressed, addressing the draft or even free
Speaker 1: agency as you head towards the summer. With the retirement
Speaker 1: of of Shan Lee from a linebacker standpoint, no, because
Speaker 1: I don't think he was really going to factor in
Speaker 1: much anyways. But um, you need to get somebody in there.
Speaker 1: And I asked the question yesterday and I didn't really
Speaker 1: mean it to sound like Dak wasn't the leader. I'm
Speaker 1: really talking about more about defense. Who's your leader on defense?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, is it d Law? I mean
Speaker 1: it needs to be because Sean Lee from a vocal standpoint,
Speaker 1: Tyron Crawford, Shaun Lee. They need to get some guys
Speaker 1: with some leadership abilities in here. And it's hard to
Speaker 1: do that as a rookie, but you know, if you're
Speaker 1: if you're a good player, you can come in and
Speaker 1: do it. So I think I think that would be
Speaker 1: something that if it works out, they need to get
Speaker 1: some guys that have leadership qualities. I think whether fans
Speaker 1: like it or not, or whoever likes it or not,
Speaker 1: I think if you ask those guys in the locker room,
Speaker 1: I think they would probably say it's Tank and it's
Speaker 1: Jayalen the two leaders of that defense. Wouldn't you say yeah,
Speaker 1: but throw in Layton? I thought it was interesting. I mean,
Speaker 1: Sean lifted off a bunch of guys when he was
Speaker 1: asked about leaders on the team last year. But he
Speaker 1: did say Trey von Dix, which I thought was interesting.
Speaker 1: He did, he said, I mean, he said Trey, but
Speaker 1: who who else would he be talking about? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know, um, so I thought that was interesting, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, thank jaal Layton. He did say, yeah, he
Speaker 1: said a couple of names that kind of. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: it almost got to the point where if you didn't
Speaker 1: if you didn't mention, she didn't list you off, what
Speaker 1: are you might have been a problem. Well to answer.
Speaker 1: I thought about that a little bit because I've been
Speaker 1: sitting here this whole time, thinking that Sean was maybe
Speaker 1: waiting to see what they did in the draft, like,
Speaker 1: you know, if they get a top one hundred linebacker, sorry,
Speaker 1: it's not in the cards. If it doesn't work out
Speaker 1: that way, sure we'd love to have you back. And
Speaker 1: I you know, I don't want to assume too much,
Speaker 1: but maybe it was really, you know, in the cowboy's minds,
Speaker 1: that was never really a thing. And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: Sean mentioned his you know, his loyalty to the organization.
Speaker 1: They did so much for him, They helped him through
Speaker 1: so many injuries. I bet he. I mean, if he
Speaker 1: was just determined to play, I have to believe that
Speaker 1: there would there's a deal out there for him somewhere.
Speaker 1: But you know, and I don't want to speak for him,
Speaker 1: but maybe he'd know better to retire a cowboy and
Speaker 1: not worry about that, which I thought was pretty admirable,
Speaker 1: and he's done stuff like that throughout his career. But
Speaker 1: you know, with all due respect to him, not having
Speaker 1: him here, I don't think it affects too much. Linebacker
Speaker 1: was something they needed to worry about regardless of whether
Speaker 1: he was here. People have talked about him being a
Speaker 1: coach for a long time. Is that what you expect
Speaker 1: to be next for him? I don't know it has
Speaker 1: to be. I mean, we just got done talking about
Speaker 1: him being so passionate about the game and loving the
Speaker 1: game so much, and I know he's hinted at it
Speaker 1: a few times before, and everyone has talked about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think there would be anyone that
Speaker 1: would be like, oh no, he would suck as a coach.
Speaker 1: He seems like someone who would be a really, really
Speaker 1: good coach, and we've seen him when with his peers,
Speaker 1: you know, the way that he's out there on the
Speaker 1: field and he helps other people's other guys out on
Speaker 1: the field. So I think he would really be a
Speaker 1: great coach. But I'm glad that he didn't jump into
Speaker 1: saying he was gonna do that in yesterday's press conference,
Speaker 1: and that he did say that he's gonna take his
Speaker 1: time and take some time away. So that's good that
Speaker 1: he's not like rushing into it, and it's good to
Speaker 1: hear from Jerry Jones that he's open to, you know,
Speaker 1: basically said that the doors are open and he's welcome back,
Speaker 1: which Mike McCarthy's kind of said that as well. It
Speaker 1: was like it was sort of hidden in one of
Speaker 1: his answers, but he was like, you know, until a
Speaker 1: day where we see Sean in the building again or
Speaker 1: something like, you know, not didn't offer him a job
Speaker 1: during the press conference, but he's sort of alluded to
Speaker 1: the thought that that would be something he'd be open to.
Speaker 1: But I agree with you. I was almost relieved to
Speaker 1: hear that Sean say like, I'm going to take some
Speaker 1: time and sort of decompress and close this chapter of
Speaker 1: my life, because that, I to be blunt, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't always think that's healthy when a guy just
Speaker 1: jumps right into it right away. You got a process.
Speaker 1: You know, you were a football player for twenty five
Speaker 1: years and and and you know, Sean Lee is definitely
Speaker 1: sad about retiring, Like, take some time, just reflect, and
Speaker 1: it'll be there for you in a year or two
Speaker 1: years or whenever you want to do it. Well, they
Speaker 1: always say, like, you know, if you're if you're a player,
Speaker 1: you know you could go into coaching. It's like, man,
Speaker 1: those are some long hours there. You know, it's not
Speaker 1: just an easy thing. But for him, I mean he's
Speaker 1: already been like that. He's been a guy that's that's
Speaker 1: been you know, studying the tape and film for hours
Speaker 1: upon hours, and so I don't think that would be
Speaker 1: a huge transition like it would be to other players.
Speaker 1: That's true. And I don't want to speak for Sean Lee,
Speaker 1: but like I can imagine his wife being like, really, like,
Speaker 1: you don't want to take any time before you go
Speaker 1: into like having these eighteen hour days. Yeah, yeah, That's
Speaker 1: the hard part is you know, I would think for
Speaker 1: his family, they probably his wife would probably want him
Speaker 1: to take a little time, just to spend a little time, right,
Speaker 1: you know, after all these years of putting football first. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my only question would be, and it's it's tricky when
Speaker 1: you are a player. I mean, you're not a coach.
Speaker 1: You can be a leader and all that and try
Speaker 1: to lead by example, but if they don't follow, then
Speaker 1: they don't follow. And that's what I would worry about
Speaker 1: a little bit, is that, Okay, well Layton maybe followed
Speaker 1: that path, doesn't seem like all the other linebackers did
Speaker 1: and did exactly what he did, and not just linebackers,
Speaker 1: the other defensive lineman and all that. So there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of people that we hear about that are
Speaker 1: doing what Sean Lee does. So if you're gonna be
Speaker 1: a coach, you just you hope you can get that
Speaker 1: message across him. Maybe it's easier as a coach than
Speaker 1: than as a peer. Well, as a coach, you could
Speaker 1: hold him accountable, right, It's a little different as a player.
Speaker 1: It's hard to hold guys accountable, right, That's when you
Speaker 1: want the coach to hold them account. That's exactly right,
Speaker 1: all right, doesn't seem like it always happened. Well, I
Speaker 1: was there, I wasn't there, so I can't say that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would think that the coach should be
Speaker 1: the one that's going to hold him accountable. Right, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's I don't it's I don't think you're
Speaker 1: I mean there's I think there's a leadership vacuum on
Speaker 1: that defense right now, and maybe Jalen and tent can
Speaker 1: step into it, you know, And you know, you think
Speaker 1: about Jason Witten talked a lot about that when his
Speaker 1: career was ending, of like, well, it's not my team anymore,
Speaker 1: even though I'm the sixteen year vet. You know, I
Speaker 1: gotta let Dak and Zeke and not. I don't think
Speaker 1: there was any tension between Sean Lee and those guys,
Speaker 1: but just it's different when he's just gone, as opposed
Speaker 1: to still being on the team but having a lesser role.
Speaker 1: And maybe, you know, somebody there is gonna say I'm
Speaker 1: the guy now. I mean, DeMarcus Lawrence is one of
Speaker 1: the three longest tenured players. Who is it. It's well,
Speaker 1: you've lost your top three ten and tenured guys. It's Tyron,
Speaker 1: Zach and DeMarcus. I believe, like I mean, Tyren, Tyrn
Speaker 1: still ancient. Tyrant is number one, still ancient. But I mean,
Speaker 1: like the guys from the twenty fourteen draft class are
Speaker 1: the longest tenured players here. Yeah, I know it may
Speaker 1: Iron twenty eleven. Yeah, and then Zach DeMarcus. I'd have
Speaker 1: to look to see who's after that. I think Randy
Speaker 1: was Nick. Randy's one of them. You're right game now,
Speaker 1: of course, yeah, no, yeah, I mean we're talking about
Speaker 1: years on the roster, are years years in the organization.
Speaker 1: But because when you when you're talking about games played,
Speaker 1: I bet you Dak and Zeke are right in there
Speaker 1: in the top five. Yep, I would have Anthony Brown.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's weird, man, It's it's weird. It's a young team.
Speaker 1: It's a very young team. You think from that team, well,
Speaker 1: and then I'll just they lopped off all those guys
Speaker 1: that were hanging around, I mean, Chris Jones LP now,
Speaker 1: Sean Lee Crawford, Tyrone Crawford, like, yes, a lot of years.
Speaker 1: Tyrone is the which I started in April of twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: Tyrons the last guy on the team who was here
Speaker 1: before me. That makes me feel real weird. I know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to hear it from y'all.
Speaker 1: I know, come again, I know I've seen a lot
Speaker 1: of them come and go. I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1: All right, you're getting old day, I know you are.
Speaker 1: I hate it. Where's the gray? Oh it's there if
Speaker 1: you look. And more my hair than my beard. But anyway,
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna take our first break when we
Speaker 1: come back, We're gonna jump into draft talk. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go through every position. We're gonna talk about the needs.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about best fits. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys ship considered drafting particular positions. And then
Speaker 1: Dave's gonna give us some names as well, some players
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Speaker 1: It's our second segment of the Breakelock in SWBC Mortgage
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Speaker 1: some draft talk. Here's what I want to do. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have a series of question for you guys that
Speaker 1: we'll go through for each position. We're gonna start first
Speaker 1: with the quarterback position. My first question for you is
Speaker 1: if you were to rate their need at this position,
Speaker 1: ten being it is absolutely necessary, one being don't need it,
Speaker 1: don't want it. Where would you rank the quarterback position?
Speaker 1: Davis are with you? Six? Yeah? I mean I think
Speaker 1: the two guys, the two main guys behind Dak have
Speaker 1: started to combined games. And you have Cooper Rush, who
Speaker 1: has been in the league for a long time and
Speaker 1: hasn't really had an opportunity. I want to say, an opportunity,
Speaker 1: just hasn't shown anything. Um. I know, Garret Gilbert looked
Speaker 1: awesome against Pittsburgh, and it it doesn't convince me that you
Speaker 1: shouldn't You should always be trying to get better at quarterback.
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy said that yesterday. Um, I think a J.
Speaker 1: McCarron is the best thing resembling a veteran option left
Speaker 1: on the free agent market. So okay, three. Then I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, or you said six, ten is being
Speaker 1: the ten? Is you really wanted? You need nine? Oh wow,
Speaker 1: I thought six was only high. Yeah, gotta get one
Speaker 1: now if thy J. McCarron's your best quarterback, I mean
Speaker 1: basically since Alex Smiths retired, I mean most of the
Speaker 1: guys who have started games in the league are signed
Speaker 1: or retired. Yeah, I want somebody better than Denuci. I
Speaker 1: want to draft someone better than Denuci, and um, probably
Speaker 1: gonna keep Garret Gilbert. I'm probably gonna go with three
Speaker 1: quarterbacks if you're not getting a quarterback early though, or
Speaker 1: you're gonna get anybody as better than Benji Ben d Nucci. Yeah,
Speaker 1: feel pretty certain on that. Yep. I would there are
Speaker 1: guys in this draft that you can get. Yeah better.
Speaker 1: I hate a dog Ben d Nucci. I mean, he
Speaker 1: did what he could behind a terrible offensive line, But
Speaker 1: Ben d Nucci was a fringe pick. I mean, seventh round,
Speaker 1: one of the last guys taken like, there are guys
Speaker 1: with probably more natural ability. I think you could find
Speaker 1: and give me a guy that that's played, you know,
Speaker 1: in crowds that are more than like fifteen thousand, you know,
Speaker 1: for what I'm asking him to do right now. And
Speaker 1: don't throw the Tony Ramo thing at me, because I
Speaker 1: don't think the Cowboys are gonna let this guy sit
Speaker 1: for four years before he actually plays in a game.
Speaker 1: So I do think that the moment was so big
Speaker 1: for him on Setain, Why wouldn't it be Sunday Night
Speaker 1: football against the Eagles. You've never played other than James Madison.
Speaker 1: No preseason games, um, you know, and and the Nucci
Speaker 1: might be better if you get some preseason games in there.
Speaker 1: But I think that you have a chance to get somebody.
Speaker 1: I would fifth round just seems like it's it's it'd
Speaker 1: be doable. He got ten picks, Yeah, I think you
Speaker 1: one Camber's earliest pick you'd use on a quarterback. Well,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm completely opposite these two guys. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I would put it out like three or two. As
Speaker 1: far as if we're specifically looking at the draft, if
Speaker 1: it was free agency, I would probably rate it higher
Speaker 1: for someone that has experienced but especially after we went
Speaker 1: down through looking at each draft every year and stuff.
Speaker 1: Once you start getting into that area of the draft,
Speaker 1: like Nick was saying, fifth round round there, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like completely hit or miss. You just don't know.
Speaker 1: So honestly, I'm I would rather spend that on a
Speaker 1: defensive player than on a quarterback, especially after signing Dak Prescot.
Speaker 1: And again, we don't know what could happen. We don't
Speaker 1: know if he can reinjure himself or any of that.
Speaker 1: But I'm okay with I'm not gonna say I'm okay,
Speaker 1: but I would rather see Garrett Gilbert than bring someone
Speaker 1: in from the draft and expect that guy to be
Speaker 1: any better than the previous guys that they brought him.
Speaker 1: Bendy Neucchi, Cooper Rush and so what are all these
Speaker 1: other names? All really forgot? These other guys from the
Speaker 1: No no, no, from the past guys yeah later later
Speaker 1: I don't remember that either. I thought you meant the
Speaker 1: guys on the team. No, no, no no, I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: the Bendy new is a Cooper Rush, those types of guy, Mike, why, yeah,
Speaker 1: you just they you just forget about this who was
Speaker 1: draft pick. But I'm not sp it's not guaranteed to
Speaker 1: work here. Yeah, I mean we're two point zero who
Speaker 1: started at Texas went to Smuch. Yeah, he's one of
Speaker 1: the guys on my list because the thing like, they
Speaker 1: there's no way they can touch a quarterback on the
Speaker 1: first two days they got four picks. They got too
Speaker 1: much other stuff to do Saturdays the day. So you're
Speaker 1: out on Kyle Trask, You're out on Kellen Mond, You're
Speaker 1: out on obviously the big guys, like those guys are
Speaker 1: all gonna be gone. So I think I'd rather take
Speaker 1: Ellinger than take Buscheks. That's honestly, Philippe. Franks would be
Speaker 1: a good spot here for the Cowboys I got. I
Speaker 1: got no love for Arkansas, but I would like that
Speaker 1: pick a lot, I really would. And he's got Florida guy,
Speaker 1: he's both You're right, I don't I got a Florida either.
Speaker 1: The second fastest forty time among quarterbacks, which shocks me
Speaker 1: because I watched him play lest year. Which shocks me
Speaker 1: is that he actually made forty yards without falling down
Speaker 1: like Franks is. They's not smooth with the run, but
Speaker 1: he's big six what six six six, big guy. He's
Speaker 1: got a cannon arm, good attitude, all that stuff. He's
Speaker 1: got all the intangibles. Yeah, he's not a great decision maker.
Speaker 1: Uh he likes to he's a he's kind of a
Speaker 1: yolo ball guy. But like that's why you sit behind
Speaker 1: pro quarterbacks and develop. Yeah. So, I mean, if they
Speaker 1: could get him in the fifth or sixth round, I'd
Speaker 1: be all four. I think we're all on the same
Speaker 1: I mean, fifth or six would be good. But she's
Speaker 1: not me, I said syphically. I am not on the
Speaker 1: same page. I was about to say. Bis. She said
Speaker 1: if it didn't happen, it wouldn't lead off Sports Center
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys didn't draft a quarterback. Good point. So
Speaker 1: if it did, it probably would. So I mean, even
Speaker 1: if they don't get one, you're gonna get You're gonna
Speaker 1: pick up some free agent. So they're gonna get a rookie.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna finish this if we spend we just
Speaker 1: spent ten minutes on the quarterback, Well yeah, we'll move
Speaker 1: on to the next position. Let's go to running back.
Speaker 1: What's the knee ten to one three? I put it.
Speaker 1: I just I only say that just in my opinion,
Speaker 1: Amber is going to disagree with this because she like,
Speaker 1: She's like, give me good players that will bank make
Speaker 1: the team better right now at every spot day three.
Speaker 1: You got six picks on day three. If you like
Speaker 1: the guy, pick him, doesn't matter. I don't care. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they got needs. But if a running back that shouldn't
Speaker 1: be there is there, draft him, I don't care. So
Speaker 1: I say three, you got Zeke, you got Tony and that.
Speaker 1: And even if you're worried about Zeke's contract, he's here
Speaker 1: for two years. Tony's here for two years. This is
Speaker 1: not something you need to worry about right now. But
Speaker 1: if there's a player you like, do it. That's no. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: Amber's like, what are you talking about? You guys are crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean this is on defense, not freaking offense. We
Speaker 1: just basically say, until we get to the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball, leave them alone. You're like, I'm at
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, realistically, I'm looking at okay, this year,
Speaker 1: this specifically year, who's gonna be playing on the field.
Speaker 1: And I get it, we saw it last year, how
Speaker 1: many injuries happened and the crazy things that can happen.
Speaker 1: But at the same time you got Ezekiel Tony Polar.
Speaker 1: You know those guys are not getting off the field.
Speaker 1: For you to throw in a guy that you drafted
Speaker 1: in the fifth round or sixth round, it's whatever. So
Speaker 1: I'm not I'd rather spend all those pick. I need
Speaker 1: every single pick on defense, mostly unless unless there is
Speaker 1: this tight end that we keep hearing about. I won't
Speaker 1: be that mad if that was to happen. But otherwise,
Speaker 1: everything else, I'm spending it on defense or an offensive
Speaker 1: line player. This is which I get it. I hear you,
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people share that opinion.
Speaker 1: But like that's that's the great frustration of the two
Speaker 1: different fews of the draft. Like Bradley and I played defense.
Speaker 1: They got him way after anybody thought they could. Last year,
Speaker 1: he didn't play like one. Once you get to Day three,
Speaker 1: all bets are off. Just take the best player. I
Speaker 1: don't care what position he plays. I mean, because odds
Speaker 1: are he's not going to get on the field anyway,
Speaker 1: even if he plays a position that you need. I'll
Speaker 1: guarantee you this. In assuming they take ten players, I
Speaker 1: guarantee you that they do not take more than six
Speaker 1: defensive players. It'll be six to four. If it's not
Speaker 1: five to five, it won't be seven to three. Defense.
Speaker 1: I could see it. It just depends on how it falls.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I agree. I agree with you for
Speaker 1: the most part, though six to four maybe you never
Speaker 1: nobody's ever just like ten to nothing now or nine
Speaker 1: to one now, it'll be they'll take. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think you kind of do need to look at running back.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say like five there because really, yeah,
Speaker 1: because where do they fit? What will they fit right now? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, it depends what they can do. But I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna get a more well rounded player, not
Speaker 1: a specialty polar guy, a poor Man Zeke type of back.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I don't know's I'm not going
Speaker 1: way back in the draft, but I'm looking at a
Speaker 1: Marian Barber type guy in the fourth fifth round that
Speaker 1: that had to split carries and so that maybe he
Speaker 1: didn't get as much stats, but you know, for game
Speaker 1: or two he can do it and he'll show you
Speaker 1: some things. And you know, you like you love to
Speaker 1: see those guys in preseason as well. Um, but but
Speaker 1: that might be what you have, Enrico Daddle. I mean
Speaker 1: I'm not not really sure, So I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'd say if I say that, I bet they draft
Speaker 1: a running back, but I don't think. Again, it's not
Speaker 1: like a huge need. Other things and we'll finish this.
Speaker 1: I know running back is not important, but you're not
Speaker 1: convincing an undrafted free agent to come here a running
Speaker 1: back like how on Earth? So if you like, if
Speaker 1: you like a guy that's your Ben d Nucci, like
Speaker 1: your seventh round flyer, you better draft him if you
Speaker 1: want him to come down. Boys, Yeah, you're never gonna
Speaker 1: get to play, right, you'll be sitting. Come come to
Speaker 1: Dallas where you might not make the team, and even
Speaker 1: if you do, you'll never maybe you get to play
Speaker 1: special teams. Maybe you get to play special teas. All right,
Speaker 1: let's watch the next position, wide receiver. What do we
Speaker 1: rank this assumptions we're all gonna be you know this
Speaker 1: is a okay. Let me just ask the question on
Speaker 1: a one to ten scale, where do you put the
Speaker 1: need at wide receiver? I put it. I put it
Speaker 1: out of six, probably because I'm in love with wide receivers.
Speaker 1: But again, you know, we talked about this for years
Speaker 1: with the offensive line, is like keep a strength of strength.
Speaker 1: Just keep drafting guys Michael Gallops in a contract year,
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson and Noah Browner in contract years. Like it
Speaker 1: looks amazing right now, but drafts are for four and
Speaker 1: five years, not one. And should it be the first
Speaker 1: round pick, probably not. Should it be the second round pick,
Speaker 1: probably not? But talk to you into your guy at
Speaker 1: one if he's there, absolutely me me. If Jalen Waddle
Speaker 1: or Jamar Chase is there, either one, you you you're
Speaker 1: not doing your job right if you're not at least
Speaker 1: talking about it again. Like again, this is not about
Speaker 1: one year, it's about five. We don't know that they
Speaker 1: think that way. We don't, but I bet they do.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been that. I refuse to believe they
Speaker 1: don't think that those guys are two of the ten
Speaker 1: or twelve best players in the draft in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Is it a huge need. No, But you can do
Speaker 1: a lot of fun stuff, Like if Jamar Chase was
Speaker 1: on this team, you could trade Michael gallup for a
Speaker 1: player or a pick or whatever, or you know, you
Speaker 1: could you could do something with a mari if you
Speaker 1: wanted to. Like you always got to have an open mind,
Speaker 1: about this stuff. Do I think they'll do it? No?
Speaker 1: Do I think they should do it? No? But it's
Speaker 1: at least something you should talk about. Okay, here's the thought.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've actually said this in ever, but
Speaker 1: a speed guy, you know, receiver, that that would be
Speaker 1: something that I think that they should look at. This.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the two thousand and four version of Cowboys.
Speaker 1: This team. Yeah, two thousand and four. I was telling
Speaker 1: you about a guy in Hester that maybe it would
Speaker 1: be right, But no, I just think that as good
Speaker 1: as the receivers are as great as they are and
Speaker 1: can be, there's not that go guy. They don't have
Speaker 1: that guy. And that's what Waddle would give you for sure.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm looking at middle rounds of guys
Speaker 1: like that. So there's a guy like of you. The
Speaker 1: other day, there's guy in Auburn named Schwartz. That guy
Speaker 1: was he was running track. He's soaked that I mean,
Speaker 1: somebody like that. And if you get later on in
Speaker 1: the round and those guys could run, obviously they got
Speaker 1: their warts in their game or whatever. But that's the
Speaker 1: one guy receiver that I'm gonna take. Is the guy
Speaker 1: that's that's in the four two, four three four three
Speaker 1: not gonna be a four two, but like four three
Speaker 1: four four round your boy, Schwartz. I know. I mean
Speaker 1: it was unofficial, but he was unofficially clocked at like
Speaker 1: four two eight or something like that. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, in a perfect world, they have two fourth
Speaker 1: they have two fourth round picks, one fifteen and one
Speaker 1: thirty eight, and in my perfect world, one of those
Speaker 1: would be a receiver. Yeah, not somebody that needs to
Speaker 1: play this year. But you know, Michael Gallup Insurance will
Speaker 1: call it yea yep, Amber, I don't know, man. I
Speaker 1: that's a hard one for me too, It says, because
Speaker 1: I get it, we look at the future and all that,
Speaker 1: but I only care about now. And I say this
Speaker 1: every time. I only care about this year. And I
Speaker 1: know that Michael Gallup his contract is coming up and
Speaker 1: all that, so you're gonna need a receiver later on,
Speaker 1: but as of right now. And I know this is
Speaker 1: not how you draft. I get it. I get it,
Speaker 1: but I just can't help myself but to be like,
Speaker 1: I don't care about what happens next year. I just
Speaker 1: care about this year. Okay, So let's assume for a
Speaker 1: second that the people that are making the comparison of
Speaker 1: Waddle to Tyreek Hill. Let's assume you could get Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill at number ten in the first round. Are you
Speaker 1: willing to do that? No? Yes, draft him. Trade Michael
Speaker 1: gallup to somebody who's got a young cornerback that I
Speaker 1: can add to my roster, and let's party. And I
Speaker 1: can hear the people yelling at me, and I don't care.
Speaker 1: Right well, I mean that's a tricky one, it really is,
Speaker 1: because I mean you're still you need I mean defense,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt you need fixed defense. But I mean
Speaker 1: you do have to look at the long term. You
Speaker 1: have to and and you know, you could piece some
Speaker 1: things together on defense. This team isn't very good at
Speaker 1: it that some teams are. Maybe Quinn is a lot
Speaker 1: better at it, but you know, you could. You could
Speaker 1: make the case at receiver like he's saying, You could
Speaker 1: make the case at offensive line and go, you're up here.
Speaker 1: There's special linement and you're probably gonna need one at
Speaker 1: one point, you know, But it just depends on who
Speaker 1: who you think is special. And and that's I don't know.
Speaker 1: We have something on the website going later today called
Speaker 1: what would you do not what we think they are
Speaker 1: gonna do, certain and all that. What would you do?
Speaker 1: And this guy says Wattle and and and that's that's
Speaker 1: what he's saying. And I'm staying Michael Parson's Penn State.
Speaker 1: That's what I would do at number ten. If he's there,
Speaker 1: I'm taking him as these would be your these would
Speaker 1: be your top guys. It's like you think would be
Speaker 1: there and you're assuming that the cornerbacks are on the board,
Speaker 1: you would take those two? Yeah, probably, yep. If those
Speaker 1: corners are taking him. Have you seen Jalen Wattle play?
Speaker 1: You are going to leave Sports Center people and you know,
Speaker 1: people get like, people get mad. There are ways you
Speaker 1: can solve these problems, like I mean, trade Michael Gallup
Speaker 1: or or signed Richard Sherman after the draft is over again.
Speaker 1: And I think I think the world of Patrick Certan
Speaker 1: and J. C. Horne, and I think it'll be a
Speaker 1: good pick if that's who they pick tomorrow night. But
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna let being afraid of what
Speaker 1: happened last year hold me hostage from passing on a badass.
Speaker 1: Are you not? If you get into that situation, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe so the one thing I'll say is like, maybe
Speaker 1: part of my problem here with wide receiver is I
Speaker 1: keep thinking about the Detroit Lions years ago when they
Speaker 1: went first round wide receivers, what three years in a row,
Speaker 1: and yeah, Charles Roger, like, it's just it just there
Speaker 1: is a point where you can have too much of
Speaker 1: something because you just can't get the full value out
Speaker 1: of it and you cannot receiver a little you can
Speaker 1: a little bit more receiver. You can have some fun
Speaker 1: with some of the passage. No, you cannot have some fun,
Speaker 1: not this year, have some fun another year. But you
Speaker 1: guys are you guys are frustrating me right now because
Speaker 1: I just refuse. I refuse to drest. Like if we're
Speaker 1: raising the Derek's fault, it's all thanks Derek's fault. It's
Speaker 1: not my fault. You started the draft show like after Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: Like this is this is what happens when you get
Speaker 1: to this point, You're gonna you're gonna tell You're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about why you should draft a punter. At some point,
Speaker 1: I mean, everything is gonna horn. We know it. Dave
Speaker 1: knows that, everybody knows it. But at this point, it's
Speaker 1: just it's like let's put some fun here also, like
Speaker 1: I know you believe it, it is fun. I just
Speaker 1: I just want people to think outside the box a
Speaker 1: little bit more, that's all. And I can't I can't,
Speaker 1: um what's the word you shouldn't you like, we needed cornerback,
Speaker 1: but he we raided him an eight out of ten
Speaker 1: and this guy's an eleven out of ten, and so
Speaker 1: but we're we need the cornerback, Like that's not Jared
Speaker 1: said it yesterday. He didn't. He didn't tell us a lot,
Speaker 1: but he said yesterday. Don't be so stupid with your needs.
Speaker 1: He said it, like he said with that, so you
Speaker 1: just wonder, now you got to figure out what their
Speaker 1: board isn't There are ways, there are ways you can
Speaker 1: fix these problems. And I don't think they'll draft Waddle,
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, they probably shouldn't.
Speaker 1: But I just get frustrated when people are like, that's
Speaker 1: the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Is like, no, adding
Speaker 1: great players to your team is not stupid and you
Speaker 1: can work around it. Think about it like this, And
Speaker 1: I know this sounds kind of silly, but when you're
Speaker 1: playing fantasy football, okay, and you're drafting I know my
Speaker 1: strategy is always like, well, when it gets to the
Speaker 1: middle rounds, like I'm gonna start the run on the
Speaker 1: tight end. Well, tight ends now a different thing, but
Speaker 1: like I'm going to start the run on the defense
Speaker 1: or maybe the kicker or whatever because it's a little early.
Speaker 1: But guess what, I got the best one. I know
Speaker 1: that just like a linebacker. You know, That's why I
Speaker 1: like about Parsons, I got the best one. Cornerback, You're
Speaker 1: probably gonna be able to say that too. You know
Speaker 1: you got the best one course end as well. So
Speaker 1: I mean there's if and I think we're not talking
Speaker 1: about linebacker being more of a need than corner really.
Speaker 1: I mean think about like corner, Oh we gotta have
Speaker 1: a corner out of a corner. Well, but I mean,
Speaker 1: if you had to start right now, you'd start Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown and Jordan Lewis and trey Von Diggs. But at linebacker,
Speaker 1: you'd starting Jalen Smith and Leyton if he's healthy, and
Speaker 1: then you don't know who's the third guy. And I
Speaker 1: mean I think there's more and definitely got questions down
Speaker 1: the road at linebacker. So yeah, I think linebacker may
Speaker 1: be a bigger need all right, let's jump to the
Speaker 1: offensive line. Let's talk about it. I want to talk
Speaker 1: about it kind of as a boot, because I think
Speaker 1: that's where you kind of have to like look at
Speaker 1: this position. Where would you rate the offensive line as
Speaker 1: far as need ten to one? For me, tackle is
Speaker 1: at it like an eight. I put the interior at
Speaker 1: like a five or six up fair, I like that eight.
Speaker 1: I was thinking eight and yeah eight five eight six.
Speaker 1: McCarthy said something interesting to me yesterday, which was like
Speaker 1: he was. He basically said, like I would guess with
Speaker 1: ten picks, we're gonna draft he said a lineman. But
Speaker 1: he was talking about the interiors. He was specifically talking
Speaker 1: about like making adding competition for Tyler Beata. And I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there saying, well, you got Connor, you got Zach,
Speaker 1: you got the other Connor. Connor mcgovernment played center in college.
Speaker 1: Like it seems fine to me. But again, when you
Speaker 1: have ten picks, why not? But like from I hope
Speaker 1: I really hope one of these four top one hundred
Speaker 1: picks as a tackle. I really hope it is. I
Speaker 1: would write, I mean about the same. I just we
Speaker 1: hear it every year where you're expecting all of Yren
Speaker 1: Smith to be healthy again, and then now you add
Speaker 1: Lalla Collins to the mix, and there's always an injury
Speaker 1: problem there. And I don't want to have just a
Speaker 1: good passing game. I need my running game to be
Speaker 1: able to work as well. And I think that was
Speaker 1: a big issue. I mean, clearly it was a big
Speaker 1: issue last year, but I think that part of it
Speaker 1: was what was happening with the offensive line. So I
Speaker 1: need Ezekiel Elia to get back into form and get
Speaker 1: help from the old line. So I see it as
Speaker 1: a pretty high need. All right, let's jump to the
Speaker 1: tight end position, because this is one that's been talked
Speaker 1: about over and over and over again this season, mainly
Speaker 1: because at the top of the first round you've got
Speaker 1: a guy that appears by all most people's accounts to
Speaker 1: be a very special player. I'm talking a generational type
Speaker 1: player in Kyle Pitts. First of all, where do you
Speaker 1: rate this as far as they need for the Cowboys?
Speaker 1: And then you can talk a little bit about are
Speaker 1: you willing to jump outside of that for someone that's
Speaker 1: supposedly going to be this great or projects to be
Speaker 1: this great in the NFL. It's really funny because I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't see tight end as a big one for need.
Speaker 1: I say three. I didn't put anything that low because
Speaker 1: like you can always find, you can always upgrade your talent,
Speaker 1: I said three or four. Like tight end, it's such
Speaker 1: a hard position for guys to adjust to. It took
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin some time. Dalton Schultz didn't really break out
Speaker 1: to his third year. It's very rare to see, especially
Speaker 1: like the further back you go, the steeper the learning curve.
Speaker 1: And so I like this current strategy of just adding
Speaker 1: guys in free agency, like Blake Bell did a good job.
Speaker 1: I like the Jeremy Sprinkle signing. You got Sean mccun
Speaker 1: still here, and then you got your two. If they
Speaker 1: didn't draft one, I wouldn't even care. Yeah, but Kyle
Speaker 1: Pitts though, I mean yeah, I mean he's the guy.
Speaker 1: You can do it. You're drafted. You drafted because you're
Speaker 1: not drafting a tied end so much. You're drafting a
Speaker 1: just a freak player. And let's be honest, I mean,
Speaker 1: we know he's not really really a tied end. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be a mismatch. But I guess I'll ask you
Speaker 1: this because you guys looked at tape. Is he is
Speaker 1: he putting his hand down and going up again? Defensive ends,
Speaker 1: I can get in the way, Like he's not Marty
Speaker 1: b but he can. He's better. He's a better blocker
Speaker 1: than he gets credit for it. I thought you were
Speaker 1: going to say better than Witten, which, well, he's better.
Speaker 1: He's probably he's better now than Witton was in the
Speaker 1: final years of his career. I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: better than prime Witten, but because he's a he's gonna be.
Speaker 1: He can get on that'll get better. I would assume
Speaker 1: once gets he's six six, two fifty, he can get
Speaker 1: on the line, he can chip the end, he can
Speaker 1: help the tackle. He could probably. I wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: put him against an end one on one and hope
Speaker 1: that it's going to go well. But like he can
Speaker 1: do what he needs to do. Would you okay, I'll
Speaker 1: ask you this. Would you trade up for him eight?
Speaker 1: He's fall into eight? What are you giving up for
Speaker 1: that third? Probably one of your one of your dates? Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably you're one of your thirds, just from ten to eight. No,
Speaker 1: not me and not me either, And that's I'm I'm
Speaker 1: not moving for anybody. There's not a player out there,
Speaker 1: I would move up. I sound like I'm talking out
Speaker 1: of both sides of my mouth, because well, I love
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts. He wants He's my favorite player in the draft.
Speaker 1: But they need to make four picks in the top
Speaker 1: one hundred. They need guys that can come in and help,
Speaker 1: and they need a tight end. Isn't dire enough that
Speaker 1: they should be getting rid of those resources? I agree
Speaker 1: if you did need a position like this, if you
Speaker 1: needed it, then yeah, I'd go get it. But I'm
Speaker 1: not trading up forward. But no, I agree. Would you?
Speaker 1: But would you take him at ten? With I? Would you?
Speaker 1: Would you know? No time would elapse that the one
Speaker 1: guy I would take like it would be nine fifty
Speaker 1: eight on the clock and it would go d D
Speaker 1: D ding d D ding ding. The Cowboys have made
Speaker 1: their pick. But but but wait, but wait, because there
Speaker 1: is a team sitting it. I don't know sixteen, I
Speaker 1: don't even know what it looks like. But there is
Speaker 1: a team five or six picks back that just desperately
Speaker 1: would love him, and they don't play you all the time.
Speaker 1: So they're in the AFC and then they they call
Speaker 1: and they say, do I get there one next year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: next year's one, next year's one, And I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't think that. I don't know if you I don't
Speaker 1: think you could get next year's one. I think you would.
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know. I would say
Speaker 1: this if I was going to get next year's one.
Speaker 1: And by the way, there were at least three four
Speaker 1: guys still on the board that I want. I'm talking
Speaker 1: one of the two offensive linemen, just one of the
Speaker 1: two cornerbacks, who's gonna get picked if he's there and
Speaker 1: all the other guys. Yeah, I mean, that's you would
Speaker 1: have to at that point, you'd have to have all
Speaker 1: five quarterbacks that are projected as possibilities in that top five.
Speaker 1: You would have to have at least two of those
Speaker 1: wide receivers a top five right and two offensive linemens.
Speaker 1: We said this about Lamb last year and it worked out,
Speaker 1: but there were two other great receivers. Pits is the
Speaker 1: only tight end. It's really hard to imagine a scenario
Speaker 1: where he falls that far. I think, starting at four
Speaker 1: and going until eight, I just I can't I can't
Speaker 1: see it. I can't seehim getting at it. But if
Speaker 1: he's there and they don't pick him, I might walk
Speaker 1: off the set of the show. Honestly, like we're live
Speaker 1: broadcasting the draft. I'll be so upset if they pass
Speaker 1: on because and if they do, if they do pass
Speaker 1: on him, he'll be a giant or an eagle, and
Speaker 1: so have fun. Get ready, I do not want to
Speaker 1: see that. All right, We're gonna take our final break.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll talk about the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball, the area where Amber's really focused in,
Speaker 1: and she'll give us lots of really great insight on that.
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Speaker 1: Final segment of the Break Life of the SWBC BORG
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Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, and now let's start
Speaker 1: with the defensive tackle position. Give me your your assessment
Speaker 1: of this as a need ten to one. The fun
Speaker 1: thing about defense is like your number should be high
Speaker 1: everywhere everywhere. I think, I put I put seven, I
Speaker 1: put seven eight on d tackle and I would only
Speaker 1: say they have bodies. That's the only thing. Like they
Speaker 1: have enough bodies. At D tackle to play right now,
Speaker 1: not maybe you don't feel great about the talent level,
Speaker 1: but Tristan Hill, Nevill Gallimore, Antoine Woods and the two
Speaker 1: new guys Carlos Watkins and Brent Urban, like you can
Speaker 1: play with that, but I would love to add to
Speaker 1: it if they can. Yep, I agree anything, yep, I agree,
Speaker 1: and probably in the top with your top four picks.
Speaker 1: I think, I think that would be ideals. You know,
Speaker 1: that's where you got Gallimore line year, get Tristan Hill
Speaker 1: the year before that, I don't remember. I mean, Antoine
Speaker 1: Woods wasn't drafted. I don't believe. That's the funny thing,
Speaker 1: Like people are like, we need to draft a D tackle.
Speaker 1: We've been ignoring it. I'm like, they drafted the one
Speaker 1: in the second and the third in back to back years.
Speaker 1: So that doesn't hold water in MALIEK. Collins in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: and I mean, you know they've drafted defensive tackles, just
Speaker 1: not in the first round. I would yeah, Which that's
Speaker 1: it's frustrating because you know, the top one hundred picks
Speaker 1: or where all my focus is. Like I said, after that,
Speaker 1: you're just kind of throwing darts. But there's so many
Speaker 1: positions where you'd like to see them take a guy there,
Speaker 1: and you're like, I'd love to get a d tackle
Speaker 1: at ninety nine, but I'd love to get a you know,
Speaker 1: I'd love to get an offensive tackle at ninety nine.
Speaker 1: Two Like it's it's hard to figure out, all right,
Speaker 1: jumped to the defensive end position. Where is it, Reik,
Speaker 1: and where would you think the Cowboys would consider it?
Speaker 1: This is the biggest bummer in this entire draft cycle,
Speaker 1: because if you're drafting in the top ten, you should
Speaker 1: have a shot at a badass, said Rusher. And it
Speaker 1: just doesn't seem like it's there this year. I put
Speaker 1: it at like I put it at seven. I think
Speaker 1: Tank and Randy's a good duo to Terrell. Basham's fine,
Speaker 1: and you know Dorrin's Armstrong. We talked about him a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. But especially you don't think they're
Speaker 1: going to be an upgrade disposition because anybody that you
Speaker 1: can always you can always upgrade the position to be
Speaker 1: better than Dorin's Armstrong, to upgrade it. I just don't
Speaker 1: think you know can Okay, there's not a Bosa or
Speaker 1: a Chase Young and I you know they wouldn't have
Speaker 1: a shot at those guys anyway. But but typic like
Speaker 1: there's guys you're like, oh yeah, Like you remember the
Speaker 1: year they drafted Taco, there were like six ins, you know,
Speaker 1: Tack McKinley and Charles Harris and all these other guys
Speaker 1: that it just doesn't seem like it lines up, like
Speaker 1: it would be a reach in my opinion, if they
Speaker 1: drafted an addresser that high. But just remember that, you
Speaker 1: know in Seattle, and I guess you could say the
Speaker 1: same in Atlanta. I mean this defense with dan Quinn,
Speaker 1: he's had some success with guys that weren't drafted super high.
Speaker 1: So you know, maybe in the first, second round, third round,
Speaker 1: I mean, they'll be looking at defensive end. You know,
Speaker 1: their priority will be be looking at ins, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they'll be a good fit for it. This
Speaker 1: is a very not sexy eddress your class, but the
Speaker 1: need is there, and dan Quinn has a defensive line background,
Speaker 1: so like it shouldn't surprise anybody to see them draft one.
Speaker 1: I'm still recovering from what they did with Tackle and
Speaker 1: the pig that they spent around him, So how do
Speaker 1: I just I don't see it happening. There's no one.
Speaker 1: And of course I do not study the draft like
Speaker 1: any of you guys do, but there hasn't been a
Speaker 1: name or someone that I'm like excited for, or even
Speaker 1: in the later rounds, you know, someone that stands out,
Speaker 1: just like Dave mentioned, but just in general, this is
Speaker 1: a position where I would be semi okay if they
Speaker 1: find it a tackle, But then for a defensive end
Speaker 1: they look for someone undrafted or maybe during training camp
Speaker 1: once teams start cutting guys and kind of get a
Speaker 1: better look at other players that could come in and
Speaker 1: at least at some depth and just be there and
Speaker 1: just compete, not really expecting expecting anyone to start, but
Speaker 1: at least just to check it out. But no one
Speaker 1: stands out, honestly, all right, linebacker, you put it nine? Nine?
Speaker 1: Is this the Is this the highest one you gave?
Speaker 1: Not as far as positions, No, we're gonna get to that. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: a nine. Yeah, I gotta I gotta get a linebacker.
Speaker 1: I gotta get a good one, you know. I gotta
Speaker 1: get a guy in the top four picks that that's
Speaker 1: going to come in here and play. That's honest. If
Speaker 1: I had to and I've I've talked about this a lot,
Speaker 1: but if I had to pick a position that I
Speaker 1: really they need to get a corner in this top
Speaker 1: one hundred, and they need to find a linebacker. Those
Speaker 1: are like the two that I really think they need
Speaker 1: to hit. And you know, everything else you just kind
Speaker 1: of let it fall how it falls. But those are
Speaker 1: the two. YEA, So Parsons, you guys would would you
Speaker 1: guys feel comfortable? No, Nick, you've already said it would
Speaker 1: feel comfortable at ten taking Parsons would, I wouldn't like it?
Speaker 1: It would what? Uh? Well? And that's the big debate is,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, if you're drafting a linebacker that high,
Speaker 1: he needs to be to rushed the passer and Parsons can,
Speaker 1: but he seems like a projection. He's raw, he didn't
Speaker 1: play last year. His coverage needs some work, like he's
Speaker 1: not this elite coverage linebacker, at least not right now.
Speaker 1: And is he good enough at rushing the passer that
Speaker 1: that makes up for it? Basically? And how are you
Speaker 1: deploying all of that? Because a guy who rushes the
Speaker 1: passer who doesn't cover that well describes somebody that's already here.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I thought you were talking about somebody who
Speaker 1: was already so the and a lot of people say
Speaker 1: the comp for Michael Parsons is pre injury Jalen Smith,
Speaker 1: which is awfully enticing. Yeah, but there's just pre injury
Speaker 1: that's that's really enticing. There's more valuable positions that like.
Speaker 1: I just think I think a lockdown corner who's good
Speaker 1: at his job is more valuable than that player in
Speaker 1: my opinion, at ten, if they trade back, I'd be
Speaker 1: happy to draft Michael Parsons, but not at ten. I
Speaker 1: want a linebacker within the first three picks that they have,
Speaker 1: and I rate linebacker at number ten as far as
Speaker 1: need I mean, right now, in my eyes, we got nothing.
Speaker 1: There's a guy I want a bench. There is a
Speaker 1: guy that's injured and we don't know how he's gonna
Speaker 1: return as far as health why so other than that,
Speaker 1: we're kind of left with thou much there. So that's
Speaker 1: a ten for me, absolutely, I think a big thing too.
Speaker 1: And I don't think Nick's crazy at all for liking
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons, but one of my favorite way for other things,
Speaker 1: but maybe not for that well, yeah, fair, but one
Speaker 1: of my favorite aspects of this draft is there seems
Speaker 1: to be a big sweet spot for linebackers on Day two,
Speaker 1: like starting at the end of the first and going
Speaker 1: until pick fifty or sixty. Like Nick Bolton out of
Speaker 1: Missouri is a guy I like a lot. Ohio State
Speaker 1: has a couple of guys, Baron Browning and Pete Werner LSU.
Speaker 1: We've talked about Jabril Cox, who is very good in coverage.
Speaker 1: Alabama's Dylan Moses Zaven Collins out of Tulsa's more of
Speaker 1: a first round guy. But again maybe if you trade back.
Speaker 1: So I just think there's a variety of ways you
Speaker 1: can hit this without spending the tenth overall pick, which
Speaker 1: is another reason why I'm like, well, why draft Parsons
Speaker 1: if I can get Baron Browning later? And do you
Speaker 1: see a huge as is there a big gap between
Speaker 1: Parsons and some of those guys you just names, And
Speaker 1: is that gap as big as say those top two
Speaker 1: cornerbacks and then the next set of guys. That's a
Speaker 1: really interesting question, I think. I mean, if Parsons is
Speaker 1: what everybody thinks he can be, then there probably is
Speaker 1: a big gap. But again it's a projection whereas you know,
Speaker 1: I go back to Anthony Hitchins all the time, where
Speaker 1: which Baron Browning is a much better athlete than Anthony Hitchins.
Speaker 1: But like, just give me the plug and play guy
Speaker 1: who can do what I need him to do, who
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a freak show. And that's and
Speaker 1: again I talk about this a lot. Trayvon Diggs was
Speaker 1: arguably would y'all say he was the best corner on
Speaker 1: this team? Last year? He struggled a lot, did he not? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think he wasn't better than Cheeto,
Speaker 1: But you didn't play much, Okay, But point like, Trayvon Diggs,
Speaker 1: by all accounts, had a very successful season leads. But
Speaker 1: and that's that's what you're get. I think the learning
Speaker 1: curved cornerback is really steep, and if you're trying to
Speaker 1: improve that, I would I'd much rather just pull the
Speaker 1: trigger at ten than take my chances later. It's true,
Speaker 1: all right, So we're talking about the quarterback position. My
Speaker 1: assumption is we all agree that is a top notch
Speaker 1: need for the Cowboys. And give me a few names, Dave,
Speaker 1: if we got beyond that first round. Obviously we all
Speaker 1: think that those guys are in the mix. But give
Speaker 1: me some names. He had a lower, second, third round
Speaker 1: picks that could be fits for the Cowboys at cornerback. Okay, um,
Speaker 1: well it's the Cowboys, so you got you gotta keep
Speaker 1: your eye on Caleb farl He was He was arguable,
Speaker 1: he was arguably the best corner in this class. We'll
Speaker 1: see how far he falls. We know Jerry Jones is
Speaker 1: not afraid to pull the trigger on that type of guy.
Speaker 1: So he's What was the surgery that he had to have.
Speaker 1: He had a back surgery, but the list is pretty long. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it was similar. It's a similar back surgery to what
Speaker 1: Romo had in the middle of the season a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago or a few years ago. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like her needed disc surgery. It's like when they shave
Speaker 1: off a little bit. Sounds terrible. They shaved off for
Speaker 1: shooting protrusion on his spine. That was like messing with
Speaker 1: his nerves. But like players have done that in the
Speaker 1: middle of the season and played so how alone, like
Speaker 1: I think Romo did. He came back and played a
Speaker 1: few if the report going around right now is that
Speaker 1: he played the entire twenty nineteen season and was all
Speaker 1: conference with sciatic nerve pain down his leg because he's
Speaker 1: that's not pleasant. I know. Can you cover hu Leo Jones?
Speaker 1: That's what we need, not at this point in my life.
Speaker 1: But maybe he's he's gonna be. I think that. I
Speaker 1: think the world of Caleb Farley if he's healthy. But
Speaker 1: the rap sheet scares the crap out of me. Um,
Speaker 1: oh really that's a coward. Well, I'm talking the health
Speaker 1: rap sheet. I should say no, no, no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no, I'm sorry, I meant the medical list. Um.
Speaker 1: There's two guys out of Georgia that I think you
Speaker 1: should know, Eric Stoates Stokes and Tyson Campbell. I'd like
Speaker 1: to think one of them could be there at forty
Speaker 1: four if he ought to. Melafon Wu big Big. When
Speaker 1: I see big DBS with dan Quinn's history, I think of,
Speaker 1: you know, the guys in Seattle, so can't rule that out.
Speaker 1: Elijah Molden is a guy that I'm intrigued by because
Speaker 1: we know they don't like small guys. He's like five nine,
Speaker 1: five ten, but he's very intriguing. He could probably play safety,
Speaker 1: he could play in the slot. He came out of Washington,
Speaker 1: which their track record with DBS speaks for itself. I
Speaker 1: would love to draft him, but I don't trust that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys would. But he's definitely a name that I
Speaker 1: think you should know. Keith Taylor also out of Washington.
Speaker 1: He's a later on guy, but he's like six two
Speaker 1: sixty three, so that's intriguing to me. But there are
Speaker 1: definitely guys you can find if you don't draft one
Speaker 1: of the big two. But I'd rather just get it
Speaker 1: out of the way for the sake of time. Do
Speaker 1: the same thing for me for the safety position, because
Speaker 1: I think we all agree safety as an issue. I
Speaker 1: want to know where can you find where can you
Speaker 1: find the best safety in this draft? And then tell
Speaker 1: me a few other names. I put it at an eight.
Speaker 1: It's not a top heavy safety class. Travon mary got
Speaker 1: a TCU A is far and away seen as the best.
Speaker 1: He's probably a late first rounder. If they love him,
Speaker 1: maybe they trade up for And then there's a bunch
Speaker 1: of Day two guys that intrigued me. Dan Quinn went
Speaker 1: to Oregon to scoutch Avon Holland that's probably like a
Speaker 1: round two guy. A name that I think you should know.
Speaker 1: Richie Grant out of UCF really impressed at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: People love him. He's a ballhawk Jamar Johnson out of Indiana,
Speaker 1: And then again this is just me being stupid, but
Speaker 1: divine Diablo Virginia Tech. He's a six three two fifteen safety, linebacker,
Speaker 1: hybrid guy. And I just keep thinking about the fact
Speaker 1: that Cam Chancellor went to Virginia Tech two and I'm like,
Speaker 1: maybe dan Quinn likes these big thumper, strong safety types.
Speaker 1: So those are the names that I wrote down. I
Speaker 1: think they should have a good shot at some guys
Speaker 1: on Day two if that's what they want to do. Okay,
Speaker 1: before we end this show, I want to go around
Speaker 1: the table and I want you guys to tell me
Speaker 1: and this is not what you think they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: It is what you hope happens tomorrow night. With the
Speaker 1: first round pick, who do you who do you want
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to select with that pick? Nicholas Starring, I'd
Speaker 1: said Parson. I think he's a guy that comes right
Speaker 1: in and plays um a linebacker. If if they don't
Speaker 1: do that, and they they're hell been on a corner,
Speaker 1: I would take Horn. I like Horn over certain from
Speaker 1: what I've seen, I think he's he's a dog, and
Speaker 1: I think this team needs it. I think he's proved.
Speaker 1: I think if you count the best players in the
Speaker 1: last ten years at Alabama, I think Certan is probably
Speaker 1: in the teams. I think at South Carolina, I think
Speaker 1: it's Clowney and then you know, maybe another guy, maybe
Speaker 1: Ken Law and Horn. I just think he doesn't have
Speaker 1: a lot of great guys around him, and he gets
Speaker 1: it done. And the fact that he went up against
Speaker 1: Pitts shows he's not afraid to do it. Parsons are
Speaker 1: Horn for me. Okay, amber Um, I don't you know.
Speaker 1: I mentioned I'd really want a linebacker, but I haven't.
Speaker 1: I don't really know much about any of these linebackers
Speaker 1: on here, but the one guy that I would want
Speaker 1: it is Horn because aside from the talent that Nick
Speaker 1: just described, I liked his interview that he with the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I don't just watching him and the things that he
Speaker 1: said and how he said it, you know, something about
Speaker 1: his personality and the way he responded to some questions
Speaker 1: attracted me more towards to him. So I think he
Speaker 1: would be a good fit here, and the Cowboys obviously
Speaker 1: need a corner, so someone that can come in and
Speaker 1: step in right away, and I think he would be
Speaker 1: a guy. I wouldn't be mad at that, I know,
Speaker 1: and I stand by what I said, like I would
Speaker 1: they should at least consider drafting Waddle, Like if you
Speaker 1: won't even consider it, then you're not doing your job
Speaker 1: the right way. But I don't think that'll happen. At
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I don't really think it
Speaker 1: should happen. I would draft I think it'll be Horner Certan.
Speaker 1: I think one of them will be there. I would
Speaker 1: draft Patrick Certan. He just strikes me as I think.
Speaker 1: I think people have fatigue with him because we've known
Speaker 1: he was going to be one of the best corners
Speaker 1: in the class since October and you know, he's been
Speaker 1: in every mock draft that entire time. I think people
Speaker 1: are just bored of talking about him. But he showed
Speaker 1: up at Alabama, which is the pinnacle of college foot ball,
Speaker 1: and started from the get He was a three year
Speaker 1: starter for the true freshman. Impressive for Nick Saban. Nick
Speaker 1: Saban is a dB guru. I think he knows what
Speaker 1: he's looking at, and I know, you know, some of
Speaker 1: their corners haven't worked out. I don't care about that
Speaker 1: he's got the NFL, you know, bloodlines. He did it
Speaker 1: at a high level at the best program in the country.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a big deal that he's already
Speaker 1: played with Treyvon Diggs. But it doesn't hurt, Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's nice to have. And I just think he's the classic,
Speaker 1: Like his floor is so high, Like he might not
Speaker 1: ever be Champ Bailey, but I can't imagine him busting
Speaker 1: whereas I think, which I like jac Horn a lot,
Speaker 1: but I think there's a lot like there's a little
Speaker 1: bit more risk there. I'm not sure he's sure of
Speaker 1: a thing, So just give me the sure thing corner.
Speaker 1: Think he can step in and start right away and
Speaker 1: be good for you, And I have no problems with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. This is a draft. I really
Speaker 1: don't think the Cowboys can mess this up. If you
Speaker 1: look at those five quarterbacks, and let's assume all five
Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks go in the top nine, then basically
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have to choose the best person on their board,
Speaker 1: Pitts Horns or ten Slater and sewell, can you really
Speaker 1: mess that up? Like, I just don't think they can
Speaker 1: mess this up. Personally, I would like them to see
Speaker 1: them take one of the two cornerbacks. But I will
Speaker 1: say this, if you take any one of those five,
Speaker 1: I feel happy coming out of the first round because
Speaker 1: I feel like the Cowboys will have addressed a need
Speaker 1: and in their opinion, they got the best player on
Speaker 1: the board at that time. So I take either of
Speaker 1: those five guys. I think Jerry would hope that there's
Speaker 1: only four quarterbacks taken and that there's a fifth one
Speaker 1: sitting there at see if you could trade up, so Jerry,
Speaker 1: Jerry wants the phone to rank. He basically said that yesterday.
Speaker 1: That's when I get worried. And the reason why I
Speaker 1: get worried is because I want one of those five players.
Speaker 1: The likelihood that I trade down, especially if I'm trading down,
Speaker 1: say to fifteen, sixteen seventeen, the likely I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: one of those five players is now gone. I want
Speaker 1: one of those five players because I think one of
Speaker 1: those five players, Like I said, I think they will
Speaker 1: be good players from standpoint in need. They will also
Speaker 1: be the best players available at that time. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if the guy you get later is going
Speaker 1: to be as good as those guys. That's what makes
Speaker 1: this all. I love the draft. I love the draft
Speaker 1: like some people roll their eyes out of it. I
Speaker 1: don't care because I'm sitting here like Patrick Certain would
Speaker 1: be really great. But if you told me I could
Speaker 1: get Micah Parsons or maybe even jac Horne at fifteen
Speaker 1: and then have pick forty six from New England, Horn
Speaker 1: and Certain, there's no way I think they're there fifty.
Speaker 1: I could be you oversimplified. I think what it was
Speaker 1: going to be selected before the Cowboys. Personally it's possible, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's a big risk. I'm not taking any risk
Speaker 1: after her last season. What we saw last season. You
Speaker 1: should not have the luxury of making any traits. You
Speaker 1: need your pick, you need to stay. You want as
Speaker 1: many players to help as possible. Right, they're trying to know, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I get so let's add another pick and still get
Speaker 1: a good guys. I don't like the risk of expecting
Speaker 1: a guy to still be available at a certain spot.
Speaker 1: Somebody to look at it. You can also say this
Speaker 1: team needs everybody and so there'll be a good one.
Speaker 1: Don't rule this part out too. When you're talking about
Speaker 1: trading down, you don't have edge Rusher like up there high,
Speaker 1: but there's teams that might because they want an edge
Speaker 1: rusher so bad. Don't be surprised if the curveball in
Speaker 1: the top fifteen is a pass rusher that you're not expecting.
Speaker 1: We've seen it before. The Raiders did it whack with
Speaker 1: the third pick a few years ago. I mean, like
Speaker 1: this guy, like, whoa really? I mean, I remember way
Speaker 1: back when Freeny got picked, way back when Freenie got picked.
Speaker 1: He was not a guy you. But pass rushers are
Speaker 1: valued higher. They might throw some a curve into this
Speaker 1: and I don't. You're not unique, and I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about you specifically, but people are like, he won't be there.
Speaker 1: They're like, he won't be there at sixteen. And then
Speaker 1: a guy that nobody's talking about, like Jalen Phillips goes
Speaker 1: in the top to Cleveland Farrell blew everybody like nobody
Speaker 1: saw that. It happens every year. You never and people
Speaker 1: fall every year. I get that, So I tend to
Speaker 1: agree with you, but you never know once these because
Speaker 1: they all have That's one thing I love about it too,
Speaker 1: Like they all have such drastically of different opinions, Like
Speaker 1: the Cowboys hate a guy that's gonna get drafted in
Speaker 1: the top fifteen. They're like, okay, went in the first round,
Speaker 1: or you know, they'll tell us on Friday night that
Speaker 1: the guy they drafted at forty four was their eighteen player.
Speaker 1: So that's what makes it fun. So you never know
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen to show. Okay, thank you, Ambers, just
Speaker 1: like give me can I get ten all pros? Just
Speaker 1: give me ten all pros and all on the defense? Yeah,
Speaker 1: all the deeps. All right, guys, appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 1: We'll be back next week. We'll tell you what happened
Speaker 1: with the draft. We'll give you a breakdown from our
Speaker 1: points of views on the picks the Cowboys. Will make
Speaker 1: make sure you check out all of our covers this weekend.
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Speaker 1: the entire draft days one, two, and three, so make
Speaker 1: sure you check that out. We'll also have lots of content.
Speaker 1: We'll have the secret audio of the player being selected
Speaker 1: and Jerry called in the player to tell them they've
Speaker 1: been selected. We've got a lot of cool stuff that
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