WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Who You Taking? 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:07.680 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:19.840 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Clubs. Are you ready for 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:23.560 a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:27.920 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:33.280 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:39.599 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:43.919 It is Wins the April twenty eight, twenty twenty one, 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:46.800 season sixteen, episode number one oh seven. Welcome to the 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:49.440 latest edition of The Break. We are presented by Geico 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.480 and we were alive from the SWBC Mortgage studios at 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:54.720 the Star. We got a lot to talk about today. 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:57.440 Tomorrow we'll be the NFL Draft, and so we're gonna 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:59.080 get you guys ready for that. We're gonna go through 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.280 each position and talk about what the Cowboys could use 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:04.840 and uh and where we think they may use some 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.360 of their picks and um, and just go up the 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:09.039 whole thing. Get you guys ready. We'll by the end 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.679 of the show, we will nail these guys down on 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.440 who who they think the Cowboys will pick with their 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.640 first pick and um, and make sure that you guys 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:21.160 are ready for the draft tomorrow. All right, So first 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:22.880 we didn't need to talk a little bit about Sean 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:25.600 Lee yesterday he makes the announcement, or at least as 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:29.400 the press conference where Sean made the formal announcement that 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:32.720 he is retiring from the NFL. My first question for 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:35.120 you guys is just if you were going to wrap 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:38.240 up Sean's career and like what your thoughts are in 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:40.560 his career and what he meant to this team, what 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:42.360 would it be. Let's start with you, Nick. He was 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.920 a really good player. That's that's where I think he was. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:49.240 I mean, he could have been better had he played 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:52.760 longer and been on the field more. He missed fifty 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.840 eight games. That's that's almost four years of games really, 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:58.160 and so you know, he could have made more Pro 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.800 Bowls probably, um, you know, and then then he would 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.080 would be talking about you know, Ring of Honor and 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:07.600 maybe more than that, but not likely. But I mean, 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.600 just could have had more had he been on the 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.000 field more. But when he was on the field, he 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:15.120 was one of the better linebackers they've ever had. I think, 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.640 you know, Jason Witten gets a lot of credit for this, 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.200 and rightfully so, but I just you know, Shan Lee 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.040 is just you know, if you want to see how 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:25.120 a professional football player operates, That's what I think of 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.760 when I think of shan Lee. Just a consummate professional. 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.760 He gets a lot of credit for grinding tape, but um, 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:33.800 you know, just the way he conducts himself in general, 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.240 like all business, all business, and when he needs to 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.720 be a surprisingly fun guy when he doesn't when it's 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.919 not business time, but like you know, when when it's 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:44.480 time to get down to business. I don't think there 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:48.640 was anybody who was more about his business than shan Lee. Um. 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.600 I think he one of the better players of the 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.480 Jason Garrett era and would have been even better if 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:57.639 not for bad luck with injuries. Um, if I had 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.200 to guess, yeah, like I don't. I don't think he 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:02.320 makes the Ring of Honor, which is unfortunate because if 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:04.920 he'd been healthier, I think he would have. Yeah, but 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.960 like right right there on that borderline, and definitely from 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:10.959 you know, the time that I've covered the team, which 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.560 is twenty thirteen, I think, you know, twenty ten to now, 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:15.519 I think he's one of the best handful of players 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:19.040 that this team had when he was available. He is 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:23.440 pretty close to perfect in my eyes. In my eyes. 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.600 I mean, he's exactly everything that you would want a 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:31.160 player to be minus the injuries. Of course, everyone knows 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:34.200 that that's what has affected him the most during his 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:38.880 whole career. But other than that, I mean, god, just 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:41.520 everything about him. I mean, he has leadership in him. 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:45.440 He's a guy that you can truly see how much 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.400 he cares about the team and how good of a 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:52.200 teammate he is. And he proved that when Leyton got here, 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:54.480 and like to me, I was curious to see how 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.320 that was gonna work out, but no, he did not 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:00.960 feel like anything. He was there and he helped Layton 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:06.360 and did not feel you know, a different story. But like, 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:10.080 for example, what happened when Dad got here and Tony 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.760 got hurt and kind of how that dynamic was very 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:18.560 different as to what shan Lee's dynamic was when Layton 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:22.000 got here and and Shanlee wasn't able to be on 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.040 the field. So I just I admire Shawn Lee and uh, 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.240 and it really sucks because he's definitely a guy that 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:32.039 puts in the work and it's just very unfortunate that 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.440 he suffered through so many injuries. But he just you 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.640 know that it wasn't because he didn't try. He tried 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.080 his best when he gave everything he could. For sure, 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.240 we say this a lot. I think the big thing, 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.080 one of the biggest things that would surprise fans is 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:49.280 how many guys in the NFL don't like love football. 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:51.160 You know, some of these guys it's a job or 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.200 they're just really good at it. It's a means to 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.760 an end, to you know, be you know, get what 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.320 they want out of life. That's not shan Lee. That 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.920 like Shan Lee is that guy who like eats breeze, 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:02.920 sleeps football. It's all he wants to do. It's all 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:06.200 he wants to talk about. Um. Not everybody in an 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:10.000 NFL locker room is like that, but he definitely wants. Yeah, 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.960 my favorite Sean Lee story. I was trying to think 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.360 about some you know, like, what's my Shawn Lee story 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.960 other than when he uh walked up our stairs with 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:25.240 us with you forgot about that? Yeah that was awesome. Um, well, 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.280 I'll just say it. I mean it was Brian that 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:32.200 brought us and he put his jersey on and walked 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:33.839 up with the cake and I think he even said 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:35.920 something he was like I heard it. Somebody's birthday. Yeah, 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.120 like he can play along and all that, but but 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.800 I remember his rookie year. We did the back when 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.520 we did the train from Oxnard down to San Diego 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:49.000 for a preseason game, and um we he was his 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.000 his rookie season and I was like, gonna do an 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.080 interview with him, and the PR was trying to set 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.200 up an interview with him, so I was like, Okay, 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:57.200 I'll do it on the train. And so it's the 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:59.160 day before the game and this his rookie year, and 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.000 he's like, nah no, I can't do it. I have 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.400 to watch tape. And I was like what, Like, what 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:05.760 is that like the day before the game? You know, 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.239 you rookie year. And I thought, well, one of two things. 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.400 Either he's already figured out how to get away from 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:15.440 doing media interviews, or two he really is just that 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:18.400 focused in doing stuff. And I think it's a combination 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:20.760 of both. I think he kind of didn't love talking 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:22.960 to the media, but he did it. But he also 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.320 he was just a study er and that was happening 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:27.920 since since day one. I wish more people were like 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:32.200 him on the team. His preferred cleats stopped being made 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.640 like a long time ago, and he used to like him, 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.640 and the equipment staff would like scour any website that 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:42.320 sold sporting goods just so he could get this whatever. 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:44.600 I don't even know the model, but like he had 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.240 to have this cleat and so like anytime if he 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:49.560 could get the equipment guys to find a pair on sale, 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.240 or if he saw him somewhere like just buy him whatever. 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.039 I don't care, Like I don't care how much they cost. 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.400 He just had to have that certain like the attention 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:58.960 to detail, just the stuff that he thought about. I 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.400 just it cracks me out. I would love to know 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.000 if that was a shoe that was like back from 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.760 the nineteen fifties or sixties, it was it was like 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.440 a twenty eleven Air Max or so, I don't know 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.840 if it wasn't. Yeah, I don't know what it was, 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.280 but he he was like, I need I need my leads, 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:16.000 and I'll do what I gotta do to get him. 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:17.600 It'd be such a great story though, if it was 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:21.000 like these nineteen seventy pair of shoes, and because I 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:22.720 kind of got yeah, you know that kind of thing, 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:25.000 it would feel really great if that was it. Um, So, 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.600 does this in your opinions change anything about how the 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:32.160 Cowboys should be addressed, addressing the draft or even free 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:35.800 agency as you head towards the summer. With the retirement 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:40.720 of of Shan Lee from a linebacker standpoint, no, because 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:42.480 I don't think he was really going to factor in 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:47.040 much anyways. But um, you need to get somebody in there. 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.200 And I asked the question yesterday and I didn't really 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:52.200 mean it to sound like Dak wasn't the leader. I'm 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:55.360 really talking about more about defense. Who's your leader on defense? 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:57.560 I mean, you know, is it d Law? I mean 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.840 it needs to be because Sean Lee from a vocal standpoint, 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.760 Tyron Crawford, Shaun Lee. They need to get some guys 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.440 with some leadership abilities in here. And it's hard to 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.640 do that as a rookie, but you know, if you're 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:10.320 if you're a good player, you can come in and 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.320 do it. So I think I think that would be 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.000 something that if it works out, they need to get 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:19.160 some guys that have leadership qualities. I think whether fans 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.200 like it or not, or whoever likes it or not, 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:23.560 I think if you ask those guys in the locker room, 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.040 I think they would probably say it's Tank and it's 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:29.760 Jayalen the two leaders of that defense. Wouldn't you say yeah, 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.000 but throw in Layton? I thought it was interesting. I mean, 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:33.959 Sean lifted off a bunch of guys when he was 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.280 asked about leaders on the team last year. But he 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.679 did say Trey von Dix, which I thought was interesting. 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.719 He did, he said, I mean, he said Trey, but 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.559 who who else would he be talking about? Yeah, I 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.920 don't know, um, so I thought that was interesting, but yeah, 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:52.760 I mean, thank jaal Layton. He did say, yeah, he 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:54.680 said a couple of names that kind of. I was like, Okay, 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.679 it almost got to the point where if you didn't 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:59.800 if you didn't mention, she didn't list you off, what 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.760 are you might have been a problem. Well to answer. 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:04.800 I thought about that a little bit because I've been 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:08.240 sitting here this whole time, thinking that Sean was maybe 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.520 waiting to see what they did in the draft, like, 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.200 you know, if they get a top one hundred linebacker, sorry, 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.280 it's not in the cards. If it doesn't work out 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.280 that way, sure we'd love to have you back. And 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:20.040 I you know, I don't want to assume too much, 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.800 but maybe it was really, you know, in the cowboy's minds, 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:24.760 that was never really a thing. And I think, you know, 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.520 Sean mentioned his you know, his loyalty to the organization. 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:29.120 They did so much for him, They helped him through 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.960 so many injuries. I bet he. I mean, if he 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.040 was just determined to play, I have to believe that 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.319 there would there's a deal out there for him somewhere. 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.880 But you know, and I don't want to speak for him, 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:42.240 but maybe he'd know better to retire a cowboy and 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.720 not worry about that, which I thought was pretty admirable, 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:46.920 and he's done stuff like that throughout his career. But 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:49.640 you know, with all due respect to him, not having 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.040 him here, I don't think it affects too much. Linebacker 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:54.680 was something they needed to worry about regardless of whether 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.160 he was here. People have talked about him being a 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.400 coach for a long time. Is that what you expect 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:03.600 to be next for him? I don't know it has 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.760 to be. I mean, we just got done talking about 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.040 him being so passionate about the game and loving the 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.880 game so much, and I know he's hinted at it 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:17.520 a few times before, and everyone has talked about it. 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:19.760 I mean, I don't think there would be anyone that 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:21.959 would be like, oh no, he would suck as a coach. 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:25.400 He seems like someone who would be a really, really 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.480 good coach, and we've seen him when with his peers, 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.120 you know, the way that he's out there on the 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.520 field and he helps other people's other guys out on 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.600 the field. So I think he would really be a 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:41.640 great coach. But I'm glad that he didn't jump into 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:45.480 saying he was gonna do that in yesterday's press conference, 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.120 and that he did say that he's gonna take his 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:51.560 time and take some time away. So that's good that 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:53.880 he's not like rushing into it, and it's good to 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:56.679 hear from Jerry Jones that he's open to, you know, 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.760 basically said that the doors are open and he's welcome back, 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.240 which Mike McCarthy's kind of said that as well. It 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.120 was like it was sort of hidden in one of 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.320 his answers, but he was like, you know, until a 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:10.360 day where we see Sean in the building again or 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.719 something like, you know, not didn't offer him a job 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:14.800 during the press conference, but he's sort of alluded to 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:16.920 the thought that that would be something he'd be open to. 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:20.200 But I agree with you. I was almost relieved to 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.679 hear that Sean say like, I'm going to take some 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:26.520 time and sort of decompress and close this chapter of 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.320 my life, because that, I to be blunt, I don't 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.360 I don't always think that's healthy when a guy just 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.360 jumps right into it right away. You got a process. 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.400 You know, you were a football player for twenty five 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:40.360 years and and and you know, Sean Lee is definitely 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.520 sad about retiring, Like, take some time, just reflect, and 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.520 it'll be there for you in a year or two 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.319 years or whenever you want to do it. Well, they 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.680 always say, like, you know, if you're if you're a player, 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.440 you know you could go into coaching. It's like, man, 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.480 those are some long hours there. You know, it's not 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.440 just an easy thing. But for him, I mean he's 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:01.439 already been like that. He's been a guy that's that's 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.840 been you know, studying the tape and film for hours 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.360 upon hours, and so I don't think that would be 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:10.280 a huge transition like it would be to other players. 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.679 That's true. And I don't want to speak for Sean Lee, 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.800 but like I can imagine his wife being like, really, like, 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.360 you don't want to take any time before you go 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.200 into like having these eighteen hour days. Yeah, yeah, That's 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.480 the hard part is you know, I would think for 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.520 his family, they probably his wife would probably want him 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:28.600 to take a little time, just to spend a little time, right, 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:33.640 you know, after all these years of putting football first. Yeah, 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:36.559 my only question would be, and it's it's tricky when 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:38.680 you are a player. I mean, you're not a coach. 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:40.719 You can be a leader and all that and try 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.200 to lead by example, but if they don't follow, then 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:46.760 they don't follow. And that's what I would worry about 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:50.520 a little bit, is that, Okay, well Layton maybe followed 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.320 that path, doesn't seem like all the other linebackers did 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:55.719 and did exactly what he did, and not just linebackers, 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.880 the other defensive lineman and all that. So there's not 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:01.080 a lot of people that we hear about that are 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.480 doing what Sean Lee does. So if you're gonna be 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.560 a coach, you just you hope you can get that 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.920 message across him. Maybe it's easier as a coach than 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.480 than as a peer. Well, as a coach, you could 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:13.960 hold him accountable, right, It's a little different as a player. 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:17.160 It's hard to hold guys accountable, right, That's when you 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.600 want the coach to hold them account. That's exactly right, 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.000 all right, doesn't seem like it always happened. Well, I 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.440 was there, I wasn't there, so I can't say that. 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:30.679 But yeah, I would think that the coach should be 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:32.720 the one that's going to hold him accountable. Right, I 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.200 don't think it's I don't it's I don't think you're 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.880 I mean there's I think there's a leadership vacuum on 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:41.240 that defense right now, and maybe Jalen and tent can 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.240 step into it, you know, And you know, you think 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.840 about Jason Witten talked a lot about that when his 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.240 career was ending, of like, well, it's not my team anymore, 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.959 even though I'm the sixteen year vet. You know, I 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.960 gotta let Dak and Zeke and not. I don't think 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.319 there was any tension between Sean Lee and those guys, 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.439 but just it's different when he's just gone, as opposed 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:01.960 to still being on the team but having a lesser role. 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:06.280 And maybe, you know, somebody there is gonna say I'm 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.160 the guy now. I mean, DeMarcus Lawrence is one of 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.959 the three longest tenured players. Who is it. It's well, 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.679 you've lost your top three ten and tenured guys. It's Tyron, 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:18.000 Zach and DeMarcus. I believe, like I mean, Tyren, Tyrn 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:21.880 still ancient. Tyrant is number one, still ancient. But I mean, 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.920 like the guys from the twenty fourteen draft class are 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.520 the longest tenured players here. Yeah, I know it may 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:31.160 Iron twenty eleven. Yeah, and then Zach DeMarcus. I'd have 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.200 to look to see who's after that. I think Randy 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.440 was Nick. Randy's one of them. You're right game now, 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:38.480 of course, yeah, no, yeah, I mean we're talking about 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:42.480 years on the roster, are years years in the organization. 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.320 But because when you when you're talking about games played, 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:49.080 I bet you Dak and Zeke are right in there 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.480 in the top five. Yep, I would have Anthony Brown. 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:54.880 Maybe it's weird, man, It's it's weird. It's a young team. 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:57.320 It's a very young team. You think from that team, well, 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:00.600 and then I'll just they lopped off all those guys 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.200 that were hanging around, I mean, Chris Jones LP now, 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:07.680 Sean Lee Crawford, Tyrone Crawford, like, yes, a lot of years. 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:10.680 Tyrone is the which I started in April of twenty thirteen. 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.480 Tyrons the last guy on the team who was here 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:16.320 before me. That makes me feel real weird. I know, 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.240 I don't know. I don't want to hear it from y'all. 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.800 I know, come again, I know I've seen a lot 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.360 of them come and go. I get it, I get it. 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.720 All right, you're getting old day, I know you are. 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.480 I hate it. Where's the gray? Oh it's there if 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.600 you look. And more my hair than my beard. 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My first question for you is 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.800 if you were to rate their need at this position, 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:49.320 ten being it is absolutely necessary, one being don't need it, 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:52.280 don't want it. Where would you rank the quarterback position? 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:55.920 Davis are with you? Six? Yeah? I mean I think 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.639 the two guys, the two main guys behind Dak have 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:02.439 started to combined games. And you have Cooper Rush, who 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:04.760 has been in the league for a long time and 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:07.520 hasn't really had an opportunity. I want to say, an opportunity, 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:10.360 just hasn't shown anything. Um. I know, Garret Gilbert looked 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.399 awesome against Pittsburgh, and it it doesn't convince me that you 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.359 shouldn't You should always be trying to get better at quarterback. 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.399 Mike McCarthy said that yesterday. Um, I think a J. 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:23.240 McCarron is the best thing resembling a veteran option left 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:27.280 on the free agent market. So okay, three. Then I 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.080 was gonna say, or you said six, ten is being 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:35.080 the ten? Is you really wanted? You need nine? Oh wow, 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:37.840 I thought six was only high. Yeah, gotta get one 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:40.560 now if thy J. McCarron's your best quarterback, I mean 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:43.760 basically since Alex Smiths retired, I mean most of the 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:46.719 guys who have started games in the league are signed 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:50.000