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Speaker 1: This week, will we see a black woman in the Senate.
Speaker 1: That is the question we have and we're going to
Speaker 1: get to that answer. Later in the show, and listen,
Speaker 1: there's too many Saragas out there not willing to commit
Speaker 1: to accepting election results this year, and everybody's streaming like
Speaker 1: it as a joke, but we ain't laughing. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about that then. Okay, y'all have asked that,
Speaker 1: we have answered. We got to talk about family. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot to say. We're gonna toss
Speaker 1: that one miss Gilli, King of Orange and Green himself,
Speaker 1: because we want to know what is up with this
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Speaker 4: Anywhere because we're getting to that. Also, are y'all watching
Speaker 4: these playoffs?
Speaker 1: Because I got so much to say about it, and
Speaker 1: I know that's why you tune in for my sports take.
Speaker 4: So we're going to get into.
Speaker 1: That and let me say, welcome to the w We'll
Speaker 1: tell you what that means later if you don't already know.
Speaker 1: But before we get into weskracking this week, I just
Speaker 1: want to throw it back real quick because I have
Speaker 1: a theory that ain't nothing new under the son. So
Speaker 1: if you're watching this fresh off the presses, we're going
Speaker 1: to take it to a throwback Thursday, on May eighteenth,
Speaker 1: and eighteen ninety six, Scotis ruled separate but equal and
Speaker 1: plus CV. Ferguson Landmark case. We're still fighting that same
Speaker 1: battle in a lot of ways. Also, it was on
Speaker 1: this very day, if you're listening, Thursday, May seventeenth, in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three, that the televised Watergate hearings began.
Speaker 4: Who knew a whole fifty one.
Speaker 1: Years later it would be a complete circus act still
Speaker 1: going on across all of our screens. And on this day,
Speaker 1: in May seventeenth, nineteen fifty four, a full seventy years
Speaker 1: ago today, the United States Supreme Court handed down a
Speaker 1: unanimous decision in Brown Bee Board. That is the decision
Speaker 1: that outlawed racial segregation in public schools.
Speaker 4: I have some thoughts on that, but we don't even
Speaker 4: have time to get into it.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, doing that because I think that's an interesting Okay, good,
Speaker 1: So stay tuned. We might have a mini pod coming
Speaker 1: up for you. Now that we're throwing it back, let's
Speaker 1: press it for it. Nick, make it like we're in
Speaker 1: a Freaknick documentary and drop that base.
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Speaker 6: are y'all excited to be in Miami.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Miami's are being with you guys. I like being
Speaker 1: with you guys in person as you know. We have
Speaker 1: a good time. I think we have cameras following us
Speaker 1: all the time because even we're not on the podcast,
Speaker 1: the most interesting conversation.
Speaker 4: We laugh, we have fun.
Speaker 3: We still have some bad behind the scenes from New York. Y'all,
Speaker 3: me too. What are we gonna do.
Speaker 7: With all the time, Tip, I don't know. You have
Speaker 7: grand plans and we have limited times.
Speaker 3: We may want to see what I have first moments, friend.
Speaker 1: Fine, fair enough, It's not like bribery footage. I don't
Speaker 1: approve my lifess Well, you have to talk to Tip,
Speaker 1: said Andrew, said Tim set his.
Speaker 6: If you see anything that.
Speaker 1: Exactly let's get into the show. You guys, y'all know,
Speaker 1: I hate talking about Trump.
Speaker 6: You gotta get over it. It's happening.
Speaker 1: I know, I know we have to talk about it,
Speaker 1: but I will tell you everything going on. Y'all talk
Speaker 1: much you want to talk about. So the trial is
Speaker 1: going on. Our our friend Don Lemon was name checked.
Speaker 1: Michael Cohen testify then h Donald Trump and Joe Biden
Speaker 1: have agreed to a debate.
Speaker 4: So that's happening.
Speaker 1: And then we have these surrogates who are who won't
Speaker 1: commit to accepting the election results no matter who wins
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 4: Whoever want to jump in on any of this, go
Speaker 4: for it.
Speaker 3: What you got, Angelau, you went to it. I know
Speaker 3: something I met you interested in, because it's not just
Speaker 3: the agreeing to of the debate right this. Joe Biden
Speaker 3: missed the institutional list. Mister you know believes in write
Speaker 3: and in order, and I don't dis agree with him,
Speaker 3: decided that he was going to reject the invitation of
Speaker 3: the Presidential Debate Commission. I'm not sure what the historical
Speaker 3: record is on candidates for president, certainly the incumbent president
Speaker 3: saying to the Commission on Presidential Debates that we will
Speaker 3: not participate in any of your debates. But that's what
Speaker 3: he communicated to the commission, basically saying, one y'all lost
Speaker 3: control over it the last time. The rules were broken
Speaker 3: that were agreed to by both parties and Donald Trump
Speaker 3: drove a mat truck right through it. But also the
Speaker 3: President's of Debate Commission has rules that permit the possible
Speaker 3: entry of Kennedy onto the stage, and both he and
Speaker 3: Trump can agree on one thing unanimously, and that is
Speaker 3: they do not want Joe Kennedy on on a stage
Speaker 3: with either of them. They like to pretend that he
Speaker 3: doesn't exist at all.
Speaker 6: That's Joe's jo I just want to make.
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry Joe, daddy daddy daddy Kennedy.
Speaker 1: But I don't know that presidential debates matter as much anymore.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, Andrew, I do like that
Speaker 1: they said no audience because I think you know, it's
Speaker 1: not It's becomes such you know, Kabooki theater, and it's
Speaker 1: like we don't need to hear the cheering back and forth. Everybody,
Speaker 1: you know, crowds the room with their candidates. I don't
Speaker 1: know that they're really undecided voters out there that this
Speaker 1: will make a difference. And I know you feel a
Speaker 1: way we've all talked about, like it's a choice between
Speaker 1: Biden and Couch. Do you think this debate has any
Speaker 1: influence on who's going to show up? And I'm curious
Speaker 1: if you think these trials have any influence over the election.
Speaker 6: Can I hijack just a moment of this to say,
Speaker 6: can we please play Joe Biden's clip from Twitter.
Speaker 4: Andrew asked for that sound. We have it ready to go.
Speaker 4: Let's if we have it.
Speaker 5: Donald Trump lost two debates to me in twenty twenty
Speaker 5: since Sidy hadn't shown up for debate. Now exactly like
Speaker 5: he wants to debate me again. Will make my day, pal.
Speaker 5: I'll even do it twice. So let's pick the dates. Donald,
Speaker 5: I heard, you're free on Wednesdays.
Speaker 3: A shade.
Speaker 6: Make my day pal.
Speaker 3: No, congratulate the man on on spitting out a little
Speaker 3: light shade.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 3: I like the Wednesday reference. And for y'all who don't know,
Speaker 3: that's because the judge in Trump's and New York trial
Speaker 3: hush money trial does not hold court on Wednesdays. He
Speaker 3: takes care of other pieces of his docket. And so
Speaker 3: Joe Biden was throwing some shade basically like, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Hear you, let's get together.
Speaker 7: All I know is the name of this podcast needs
Speaker 7: to be make my Day Pal.
Speaker 3: Oh. I like it. I appreciated the light shade, by
Speaker 3: the way, because I think Joe Biden was underestimated going
Speaker 3: into the State of the Union, and I think the
Speaker 3: man showed up, and I think he better than show up.
Speaker 3: And then I'll just say I think that that this
Speaker 3: did we talk about. We never debriefed that, which, by
Speaker 3: the way, we got some feedback from listeners like y'all
Speaker 3: asked us what we want to hear all that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff, and y'all never talked about, you know, what
Speaker 3: happened there. But I think he I think he overperformed
Speaker 3: what we're expectations, sleepy Joey and going to show up,
Speaker 3: and I think I think he overperformed that the angriest
Speaker 3: as he should.
Speaker 7: Bet it's fine, we don't have to revisit State of
Speaker 7: the Union. I guess my thing here is I appreciate
Speaker 7: that they want to have a debate or two.
Speaker 6: I want to know what they're going to talk about.
Speaker 7: I wish that some of the covers that I saw
Speaker 7: this morning even talked about what they would talk about,
Speaker 7: not just this challenge. I think if you normally this
Speaker 7: is your normal frame, it's just like this battle royale
Speaker 7: culture that we're in doesn't strive to get to the
Speaker 7: heart of issues. It really just strives to focus on
Speaker 7: the tension. And from my vantage point, I do want
Speaker 7: to see a debate on the issues, but I don't
Speaker 7: think they could, you know, are some at least one
Speaker 7: half of this debate.
Speaker 6: Cou k reallyas go toe to toe on issues, They
Speaker 6: just make stuff up.
Speaker 7: I appreciated Joe Biden saying the Presidential Commission on Debates
Speaker 7: shouldn't be involved. And it's the one thing that I've
Speaker 7: been saying since twenty sixteen, which is, how do you
Speaker 7: invite a commission in to debates? Or the commission sets
Speaker 7: the rules and says we don't the demoderator does not
Speaker 7: have to fact check you.
Speaker 6: That should be.
Speaker 7: Almost the sole responsibility of the moderator. I couldn't disagree
Speaker 7: with it more and so I I appreciate if they
Speaker 7: would just go a step further and say, the reason
Speaker 7: we don't want the Presidential Commission on Debates here is
Speaker 7: because they don't serve any purpose besides asking questions. The
Speaker 7: networks can do that themselves, and we are inviting the
Speaker 7: networks into fact check the things that are saying. Since
Speaker 7: this isn't theater, we want to make sure that this
Speaker 7: is something that folks can actually go back home and
Speaker 7: count on your votes are worthy of knowing the facts,
Speaker 7: and I think the debates provide that type of opportunity.
Speaker 6: Actually, I would prefer a crowd and audience.
Speaker 7: Andrew, I mean, you were on the stage, but I
Speaker 7: like to brag that I was on his debate prep team,
Speaker 7: and one of the things that I remember is being
Speaker 7: in the audience when Andrew debated and seeing him feed
Speaker 7: off of the energy. I actually think is really an
Speaker 7: important factor. I would like to hear what you say,
Speaker 7: sir on this. I agree, but that's the only pushback
Speaker 7: I agree.
Speaker 3: I think that Joe Biden should not be afraid of
Speaker 3: that because I actually think he's a person who gets
Speaker 3: energy from people. When you saw him at the State
Speaker 3: of the Union, his exchanges like real time in the moment,
Speaker 3: he was almost like, bring it, bring it, I'm ready,
Speaker 3: I'm agile, I can respond. The only other thing I
Speaker 3: mentioned on this TIF, which is I think going to
Speaker 3: be different than how we've seen this before, is the
Speaker 3: first debate has been set for June twenty seventh. This
Speaker 3: is probably going to be the earliest general election debate
Speaker 3: anybody remembers if it ever existed before. And I think
Speaker 3: Biden is smart to get this on the record as
Speaker 3: early as he can. That way, if there are tragic mistakes,
Speaker 3: there's enough time to rebound that we're not sitting on
Speaker 3: the eve of the election trying to correct you know,
Speaker 3: you know era now by the way, that works both ways.
Speaker 3: But I think that Biden's campaign and the President himself
Speaker 3: are betting on the fact that the more time people
Speaker 3: get to see the contrast between these two candidates, the
Speaker 3: choice that they're going to be reminded of what and
Speaker 3: who Donald Trump is. What he gave us for four years,
Speaker 3: the headache that we lived with versus what stable, steady,
Speaker 3: agile leadership from a man who, frankly, I think too
Speaker 3: many people have counted down and out, and I think
Speaker 3: he will come alive in those spaces and will probably
Speaker 3: be the general benefactor of it.
Speaker 1: I hear you guys on the energy of the candidate,
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking of the viewers at home, and I
Speaker 1: just don't know how that constant applause and eruption, like,
Speaker 1: you know, you want to hear what is your political standpoint?
Speaker 1: And I just find it hard to believe that people
Speaker 1: don't really know that. I wonder how many people actually
Speaker 1: tune in to the debate. As we've seen the numbers
Speaker 1: of State of the Union viewership has gone.
Speaker 3: Down, it is still the highest of any political event
Speaker 3: this is true.
Speaker 6: This is true.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they shouldn't have it. I just
Speaker 1: don't know that it will sway voters either way. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the benefit is, and I wonder who
Speaker 1: benefits from it more. I would tend to say Joe Biden.
Speaker 7: I tend to say the networks, whoever is able to
Speaker 7: it's a good point, you know, if it don't make dollars,
Speaker 7: it don't make sense. There's going to be a debate
Speaker 7: and they're all gonna be betting on it. And I think,
Speaker 7: you know, to the point if you know, I think
Speaker 7: that people are used to live sporting events.
Speaker 6: They're used to applause, they're used to noise, they're used
Speaker 6: to noise on social media.
Speaker 7: They'll be fine with whoever's making noise in the audience.
Speaker 7: But I think that they need something because the campaign
Speaker 7: in and of itself is not generating a whole lot
Speaker 7: of excitement. I think there's interest, especially for people who
Speaker 7: already have a natural political bent and interest, but folks
Speaker 7: who are on the margins, I don't think that they're
Speaker 7: paying us in justest, so maybe this is a way
Speaker 7: to get there.
Speaker 3: I think they got to be everywhere all the time,
Speaker 3: nobody is in one place.
Speaker 1: There's interest, not enough interest. I'd argue, this is something
Speaker 1: that interests me. I want to shift us a little bit.
Speaker 1: But before we go, I just want you guys to
Speaker 1: hear because no matter what happens in this debate, it
Speaker 1: will impact the next steps on the campaign trail and
Speaker 1: eventually the election, and there will be a winner and
Speaker 1: a loser come November. And if we as I think
Speaker 1: sometimes our rules in society are like pixie dust, you know,
Speaker 1: like we have to depend that everybody else agrees to
Speaker 1: participate in these rules, these social norms and mora's. We
Speaker 1: agree to stop at stop signs, we agree to stop
Speaker 1: at red lights. The MAGA Party is really desperate to
Speaker 1: disrupt that, and I abuld argue institute chaos. Take a
Speaker 1: listen to Senator Tim Scott who was on Meet the
Speaker 1: Press and at least defon It, who was also on
Speaker 1: Meet the Press. These were at different times, but listen
Speaker 1: to them when they are asked directly about accepting election
Speaker 1: results in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: Take a listen.
Speaker 8: Ceda, will you commit to accepting the election results of
Speaker 8: t twenty twenty four bottom line.
Speaker 9: At the end of the day, the forty seventh president
Speaker 9: of the United States, movie President Donald Trump, and I'm
Speaker 9: excited to get back to low inflation, low unemployment.
Speaker 8: Wait wait, senator, yes or no?
Speaker 10: Yes or no?
Speaker 8: Will you accept the election results of twenty twenty four
Speaker 8: no matter who wins.
Speaker 10: That is my statement.
Speaker 8: Just to be very clear, I don't hear you committed
Speaker 8: to certifying the election results. Will you only commit to
Speaker 8: certify the results if they're That means it is no,
Speaker 8: it means if they are constitutional.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you just heard two of his surrogates say
Speaker 1: they they hedged on accepting election results. And people are
Speaker 1: treating us like a joke. And I think this is
Speaker 1: setting the stage for more political violence. And I while
Speaker 1: you know, again, these networks are outside the courtroom and
Speaker 1: playing you know, Kabooki theater and looking at courtroom drawings.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about little incidents of violence. There was
Speaker 1: a man who declared war on the CIA building. I
Speaker 1: think this was in twenty twenty one, maybe twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: the summer twenty twenty two. So all these pockets of
Speaker 1: violence are popping up. It makes me, It makes me concern.
Speaker 1: Don't if y'all don't have nothing on network.
Speaker 3: I think it's they're just saying what they're already doing, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, after they have basically tried to convince all
Speaker 3: of us that January sixth never occurred, and that if
Speaker 3: it did occur, in your minds, you're don't believe, you're
Speaker 3: lying eyes. It was a peaceful gathering of citizens making
Speaker 3: petition of their government. There was nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3: Not that anybody died, not that they were chanting Hank
Speaker 3: Mike Pence, not that they were running through the Capitol
Speaker 3: trying to kill her. I mean, so ignore all of that.
Speaker 3: And from Stephanic to Tim Scott and my god, I
Speaker 3: soul snatched. I mean if he ever had one, because
Speaker 3: I didn't know him prior to seeing him on the
Speaker 3: national stage, but talk about a soul snatched. And the
Speaker 3: same thing for at least Defonic, who was supposedly touted.
Speaker 3: Is this reasonable New York Republican somebody that be worked
Speaker 3: with until she set eyes on Donald Trump and got,
Speaker 3: you know, seduced into playing this supporting role in Chaos
Speaker 3: slash Kabuki Theater, as you already mentioned. But I'm not
Speaker 3: surprised by these folks. I think we should.
Speaker 7: Very much says Kabuki theater. I'm sorry, talk to me
Speaker 7: like I don't get it.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Essentially, it is it is. It is a side show.
Speaker 3: It is, it is. It's a circus. Yes, it's all
Speaker 3: of that. It's it's not real and right now, these people,
Speaker 3: unfortunately the only thing real about them is that they're
Speaker 3: in real positions of influence. But aside from that, they're
Speaker 3: not operating in reality. They exist in an alternative universe.
Speaker 3: You saw the lineup the other day outside of the
Speaker 3: Trump trial. Basically, all these guys who want to be
Speaker 3: as vice president auditioning for the position by going out
Speaker 3: and slamming the judge's daughter. Why don't you take some
Speaker 3: time and slam Justice Clarence Thomas's wife.
Speaker 4: Right, they can't.
Speaker 6: They're aligned with her, of course.
Speaker 3: But but this judge is corrupted because his daughter gives
Speaker 3: the Democrats or has helped Democrats. But Clarence Thomas, his wife,
Speaker 3: conspires to overthrow the government, and this man doesn't excuse
Speaker 3: himself from any trial related to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm actually glad you you brought up Clarence Thomas,
Speaker 1: because Angela, I think you wanted to get in here.
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring in our viewer. We have a
Speaker 1: viewer with the question, is Angela.
Speaker 6: This is Scott and Clarence. Please you remember this. You
Speaker 6: know what?
Speaker 3: This is the shining.
Speaker 1: For for our viewers who are listening and not watching,
Speaker 1: flashing her cell phone lights into the camera.
Speaker 6: Get out and you know what I was.
Speaker 3: Like, but the shining get out. Yes, it just says.
Speaker 7: Snow Andrew, Andrew gonna get these cultural clues today. We
Speaker 7: didn't know what Kabooki Theater was, so welcome home, agent.
Speaker 7: We're gonna figure it out together. Yes, that's listen to
Speaker 7: the viewer question.
Speaker 11: This Valentine from Hyattsville, Georgia. So why is it that
Speaker 11: we as voters can't vote for these justices, the Supreme
Speaker 11: Court justices, or any justices or judges that the that
Speaker 11: the president appoint in office? Because I do believe that
Speaker 11: we should be able to vote for any any person
Speaker 11: that that are in least that is the leadership position.
Speaker 11: I do believe we should we should be the one,
Speaker 11: uh that put them in office. So please tell me
Speaker 11: what you think.
Speaker 3: Thank you, that's all right, Thank you, Valentine.
Speaker 6: I love Valentine.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. And thank you for that question,
Speaker 1: mister Valentine. Well, I just want to correct them a
Speaker 1: little before we weigh in on what he said. You
Speaker 1: actually can vote for justices something.
Speaker 3: He said that the president appoints justice.
Speaker 1: Yes, so I understand understand the difference, but I just
Speaker 1: want to let our viewers know.
Speaker 4: If you don't, let me explain.
Speaker 1: In some states, judges are chosen just like any other
Speaker 1: government position. They're elected. In some states it's partisan, and
Speaker 1: some it's not partisan. That means that you know it's
Speaker 1: not party affiliated, that you can actually vote for them.
Speaker 1: Some states mirror the federal government's role, which Angela and
Speaker 1: Andrew will get into where they might have a nominating
Speaker 1: committee and nominate three judges and the governor is a
Speaker 1: part of that. In some states the governor selects judges
Speaker 1: from a commission. So there are a lot of ways
Speaker 1: that you become.
Speaker 4: A judge.
Speaker 1: But to your point, when it gets to the federal
Speaker 1: appointment process, Angeline and Andrew, I'm sure have a lot.
Speaker 7: I will be brief our normal policies one person answers
Speaker 7: on these questions.
Speaker 4: This one I think is worth a discussion.
Speaker 7: That's oh, I see, okay, I missed that part of
Speaker 7: my bad I miss the contextcuse now I think that
Speaker 7: he raised raises something that's a really valuable point of
Speaker 7: discussion right now, and that is, I think the significance
Speaker 7: of our vote. When you see yourself not represented in
Speaker 7: places of power, you naturally want to ensure that your
Speaker 7: voice is heard.
Speaker 6: I think typically you would expect that.
Speaker 7: The individual that you did vote for could appoint someone
Speaker 7: that is aligned with your interests or theirs. And there's
Speaker 7: so much aligned that there's not going to be a
Speaker 7: whole lot of light between the two positions. I would
Speaker 7: love for Valentine to take on a campaign where he's like,
Speaker 7: from now on, Hell, now we're voting for these Supreme
Speaker 7: Court justice because I don't know what they out here doing.
Speaker 7: And then while we're at it, maybe it doesn't need
Speaker 7: to be a lifetime appointment because y'all in here not
Speaker 7: breaking ethics rules back and forth and everything in between.
Speaker 6: Not y'all Clarence mostly. But you know, we really could put.
Speaker 7: Some more parameters on that and ensure greater accountability. So
Speaker 7: I like where he's going, and I think that if
Speaker 7: our folks, the American people writ large, felt like they
Speaker 7: could take on the system and change it. People would
Speaker 7: be more engaged overall, which is I think where we
Speaker 7: were going even with the debate conversation.
Speaker 6: So, yes, there are some judges that can be voted in.
Speaker 6: Many are appointed.
Speaker 7: There are a lot of public officials that are appointed
Speaker 7: generally at every level of government. But I think there
Speaker 7: is something to be said about having your voice heard
Speaker 7: at every level. It would be dope to see some
Speaker 7: national Supreme Court justices on ballots instead of what we
Speaker 7: got right.
Speaker 3: Now, or retention votes like you have in many states
Speaker 3: for the Supreme courts, the highest courts in the land.
Speaker 3: In many states, the citizens, if they don't elect them directly,
Speaker 3: they get to vote to retain them or not to
Speaker 3: retain them. And if you don't meet the retention threshold,
Speaker 3: you're out of there. God knows if Clarence Thomas we're
Speaker 3: on a ballot and we have the choice of whether
Speaker 3: or not to retain him or not, I guarantee we
Speaker 3: would have thrown that dude off. But you know, the
Speaker 3: truth is is and t If you talk about this often,
Speaker 3: and I appreciate you beating this horse, you know, to death.
Speaker 3: And that is the difference between how conservatives the Republicans
Speaker 3: approach appointments to the federal bench and how Democrats seem
Speaker 3: to approach the appointments. I mean, you had. This is
Speaker 3: why I think he will go down in history as
Speaker 3: the most powerful law breaking member of the United States Senate.
Speaker 3: Mitch McConnell, the current Republican leader, who stole a Supreme
Speaker 3: Court justice seat from Barack Obama. And that's just the
Speaker 3: one we know about, but ten dozens to hundreds of
Speaker 3: appointments of federal judges that they just sat on because
Speaker 3: they didn't believe that a Democrat should be able to
Speaker 3: appoint these individuals to lifetime appointments. Yet in Trump's case,
Speaker 3: months before the election, oh he can fill every seat,
Speaker 3: every vacancy that comes up, and they're you know, full stop, no, no,
Speaker 3: no hesitation. I will say, this is why I think
Speaker 3: the Senate and who's in the Senate matters so much.
Speaker 3: The United States Senate has the role of advising consent
Speaker 3: of the presidential appointments, and it shows up in no
Speaker 3: greater place than when it comes to the confirmation, advice
Speaker 3: and consent process for judicial nominees, not just the Supreme Court,
Speaker 3: but the entire federal bench and the way they have
Speaker 3: muscled this thing of late is essentially to block all
Speaker 3: democratic president's appointments. Slow drag your feet, require all kinds
Speaker 3: of hurdles and maneuvers to get through and pass the rules,
Speaker 3: and Tiff and Angela, what this takes us to is, frankly,
Speaker 3: last night's you know, this week's primary elections that occurred
Speaker 3: across a number of states that could yield some differences.
Speaker 4: Perfect segue, Andrew.
Speaker 1: Before we get into that, I just want to say
Speaker 1: really quickly that you've brought up Donald Trump, Mitch McConnell,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump during Donald Trump's one term. So think about
Speaker 1: this in terms if you got a second term. It's
Speaker 1: one term. He nominated two hundred and thirty four mostly white,
Speaker 1: mostly male judges to lifetime appointments. So we get seduced
Speaker 1: by the Supreme Court and we forget about actions that
Speaker 1: take place at the lower courts as well.
Speaker 4: And in the lower courts black women.
Speaker 1: We were excited about seeing Justice Kintanji Brown Jackson confirmed
Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court, but black women are grossly underrepresented
Speaker 1: in lower courts. And to your point, Andrew, that is
Speaker 1: why there needs to be a black woman in this
Speaker 1: We're gonna take it.
Speaker 3: Quick since I know you're gonna throw but since you
Speaker 3: brought up Donald Trump's appointments Island Cannon as as Angelou
Speaker 3: pointed out in the last episode, a Donald Trump appointment
Speaker 3: and then how many justices on the US Supreme Court
Speaker 3: appointed by this president and now reviewing whether or not
Speaker 3: this man gets to be immune. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we're gonna talk about the role of the
Speaker 1: Senate and why there needs to be a black woman
Speaker 1: in the Senate.
Speaker 4: There have only been three so far.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break, and on the other
Speaker 1: side of this break, we're going to get into that.
Speaker 4: So don't go anywhere.
Speaker 3: We're right back.
Speaker 10: Do you have had me at your dinner tables? You
Speaker 10: have believed, believe, believed.
Speaker 12: And I think thank you so much. And together tonight
Speaker 12: we have made history.
Speaker 9: We have made history, and we have done so while
Speaker 9: overcoming steep odds. So for anyone hear me who has
Speaker 9: ever felt counted out, overlooked, and underestimated, I hope you
Speaker 9: understand and share this moment and know.
Speaker 12: I hope you know that the impossible is still possible.
Speaker 12: How many of you know the impossible is still possible,
Speaker 12: and I am fully aware, and I know that you
Speaker 12: all as well. The stories like mine don't generally make
Speaker 12: it to the United States Senate.
Speaker 4: Listen to this.
Speaker 1: Of the or more than two thousand people who've served
Speaker 1: in the United States Senate, only three have been black women,
Speaker 1: and none of those three served at the same time.
Speaker 1: So you had Carol Moseley Braun I think she was
Speaker 1: the first one, Vice President, Kamala Harris, and then La
Speaker 1: Fonsa Butler who was appointed by Governor Gavin Newsom in California.
Speaker 1: This week, Angela also Brooks won the Democratic primary for
Speaker 1: senator in Maryland, so our chances are looking good at
Speaker 1: having a black woman in the Senate. There's also Lisa
Speaker 1: Blant Rochester who's running in Delaware. Angela, Andrew, you and I,
Speaker 1: all of us have talked about this. Angela and I
Speaker 1: are in a group chat with our lady friends. And
Speaker 1: Andrew our group chat that we all have together. We've
Speaker 1: talked about black women in the Senate. We've dissected these
Speaker 1: races at nauseum. I'm curious, Angela, you and I have
Speaker 1: talked a lot about I've asked your opinion a lot.
Speaker 1: I was like, do you think also Brooks is going
Speaker 1: to win this election. Curious your whole thoughts about black
Speaker 1: women in the Senate, but also curious your thought about
Speaker 1: Angela Alsibrooks.
Speaker 7: I want to congratulate Angela also Brooks on her win.
Speaker 7: H there are some things that I wish that she
Speaker 7: would have done, and maybe what I was recommending with
Speaker 7: a backfired. I thought that she should have confronted David
Speaker 7: Trone saying jigaboo in a congressional hearing.
Speaker 4: You know, can you tell us that story briefly?
Speaker 7: If you just google David Trone jigaboo, you'll see that
Speaker 7: he says jigaboo. He claims even to say bug a
Speaker 7: boo in a committee hearing in the House.
Speaker 6: And right after that a.
Speaker 7: Number of CBS CBC members who are his current colleagues
Speaker 7: came out to endorse Angela also Brooks in the race.
Speaker 7: He said some other things that were disparaging along the way,
Speaker 7: spent a lot of money.
Speaker 6: I think there's an actual experience. Interesting.
Speaker 7: Wow, there's a very interesting case study to be held
Speaker 7: on when resources matter in states and when they really don't.
Speaker 7: And I think that this is one of those really
Speaker 7: interesting case studies where money did not win you the race,
Speaker 7: and so I think that the party actually also has
Speaker 7: to do a deep dive on when and how they
Speaker 7: spend resources, because we've been taught in politics that if
Speaker 7: you throw money at a thing, that you will win,
Speaker 7: and that is not always the case. So I think
Speaker 7: there's a remarkable case study here on this. But I
Speaker 7: congratulate Angela also brooks.
Speaker 4: Congress to her. I have to say I was looking
Speaker 4: to hear from her.
Speaker 1: I think our sister friend Joy Reid has one of
Speaker 1: those platforms where if you are a she speaks to everybody,
Speaker 1: but particularly she has a strong army of black women
Speaker 1: who tune into her, and I kept looking to see
Speaker 1: Angela also works because I thought that conversation would be
Speaker 1: a good exchange, and I have to say I was
Speaker 1: disappointed I didn't see her there. And so often I
Speaker 1: don't know if this is the case because I wasn't
Speaker 1: talking to her campaign and dealing with them. But so
Speaker 1: often we will hire white consultants, white people hailing our comms,
Speaker 1: and they will put you in places like Honestly, I
Speaker 1: don't know anybody who watches the Sunday morning talk shows
Speaker 1: that much anymore who look like us, you know of
Speaker 1: our our our type of people who and I don't
Speaker 1: mean even just black folks, I mean like you know,
Speaker 1: on the younger side, and you know, people who are
Speaker 1: somewhat aware. I've never heard somebody say, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I gotta go because meet the Press is on, and
Speaker 1: sometimes they have a habit of putting people in traditional places.
Speaker 1: So I hope to see Angela Alsilbrooks now that the
Speaker 1: primary is over and she's in the general facing Republican
Speaker 1: Larry Hogan, who we don't have a lot of nice
Speaker 1: things to say about. He is still the party of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I hope to see her on that flat.
Speaker 3: Is general election, right, I mean Hogan won governor's race
Speaker 3: and a Democratic you know, for all intent and purpose,
Speaker 3: Maryland is considered a Democratic, a solidly blue Democratic state.
Speaker 3: I will tell you, if there is to be a
Speaker 3: state that would produce a black US senator, Maryland is
Speaker 3: cut out of the you know, the mold is cut
Speaker 3: out from that state. It has a high I think
Speaker 3: it probably a plurality of black voters in its Democratic primary.
Speaker 3: It's probably to your point, Angelo, where one of the
Speaker 3: reasons why money didn't get to have the kind of
Speaker 3: outsized impact that it might normally have. I had a
Speaker 3: similar situation in my race in Florida, terribly outspent in
Speaker 3: the primary. We just needed enough for people to know
Speaker 3: my name and that I was a candidate on the ballot.
Speaker 3: I think, and and I was impressed to see that
Speaker 3: that Democratic nominee also also Brooks, I think, as of
Speaker 3: time of recording, had two hundred and forty three thousand
Speaker 3: votes and her column compared to former Governor Hogan who
Speaker 3: had one hundred and forty seven thousand, and again he
Speaker 3: only you know, there were two competitive primaries, both in
Speaker 3: the Democratic and the Republican side, and she beasted on
Speaker 3: the numbers. And if they're able to replicate that without
Speaker 3: you know, really many forced eras heading into November, I
Speaker 3: think it'll be a good look. I will say in
Speaker 3: her speech last night, I think, and I know we've
Speaker 3: got some sound and I'm not sure if this will
Speaker 3: be included, but you know, there was a lot of
Speaker 3: time spent on sort of safety crime. I think that's
Speaker 3: kind of this poll page from the from the Democratic
Speaker 3: playbook on these statewide races, and I would just caution
Speaker 3: the double edged sword when talking about that, particularly for
Speaker 3: her as a former prosecutor, and a state like balt
Speaker 3: and a state like Maryland with a city like Baltimore
Speaker 3: that has had consent decrees passed down against you know,
Speaker 3: their law enforcement agencies and the collusion between them and
Speaker 3: their prosecutors up until the point of by the way
Speaker 3: Marilyn Moseby, where that formal handoff was really disrupted, and
Speaker 3: she said, accountability has to apply to everybody, and when
Speaker 3: after law enforcement officers who themselves were breaking the laws.
Speaker 3: So I would just, you know, I caution on that
Speaker 3: that you don't try so hard to get to the
Speaker 3: right that you stumble over step, over break the necks
Speaker 3: of the folks who bought it to the party trying
Speaker 3: to get to the prom and you fall short. So
Speaker 3: I'm wishing her well, and let's hear the sound.
Speaker 10: And thinking about what's on the line in this election.
Speaker 13: I hear the stories of those I've had the privilege.
Speaker 10: Of meeting all across our states.
Speaker 13: Seniors like my father who thought that they would retire
Speaker 13: but are back at work to cover the cost of
Speaker 13: medication and groceries. Young families who find new ways to
Speaker 13: stretch a dollar each month so that their kids don't
Speaker 13: miss out on the class trip or the team sport
Speaker 13: that they love so much. Patients who are holding off
Speaker 13: on treatment.
Speaker 10: Because because it was too far or too expensive.
Speaker 13: Healthcare providers who worry that political games in Washington will
Speaker 13: prevent them from giving their patients medically necessary care. Women
Speaker 13: all across Maryland who fear that politicians will take away
Speaker 13: our right, our fundamental right to make our own health
Speaker 13: care decisions.
Speaker 10: These are the stakes of this.
Speaker 13: Election, and it's why our work must start tonight.
Speaker 1: I thought that piece was very good, But Andrew, I
Speaker 1: think the points you were making, and that is part
Speaker 1: of my challenge, right. I think sometimes you go so
Speaker 1: far to the other side to try to appeal to
Speaker 1: a base who's already left you. But you and Angela
Speaker 1: both touched on something that I think is so crucial
Speaker 1: to why we haven't seen as many black women in
Speaker 1: the Senate, and that is the donor class. It is
Speaker 1: largely white and male and who they consider to be
Speaker 1: a viable candidate, and it is the party who the
Speaker 1: party chooses to support their institutos from the D TRIP,
Speaker 1: the d SEC, and the D TRIP, the Democratic Senatorial
Speaker 1: Campaign Committee. Angelia will correct me if I get these wrong.
Speaker 1: The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, So these entities and the
Speaker 1: DNC on who they consider viable candidates can be I
Speaker 1: think a challenge. Incumbency is an issue. I was really
Speaker 1: rooting for val Demings in Florida. She was running against,
Speaker 1: you know, an incumbent and Senator Marco Rubio. That's a challenge.
Speaker 1: So it's a lack of support, a lack of funds.
Speaker 1: I don't know how we disrupt that, but you see,
Speaker 1: when we do, dare to disrupt it. You heard Angela
Speaker 1: also books in her victory speaks say stories like mine
Speaker 1: don't often make it to the United States Senate. And
Speaker 1: I think it's a part doing whatever you can. If
Speaker 1: you shoot, get out there and run for something. And
Speaker 1: if you can't run, donate something. If you can't donate,
Speaker 1: go knock on doors for something. But we can shape
Speaker 1: this democracy when we have the courage to do so.
Speaker 3: Tiffany, I love that point and the other thing that
Speaker 3: I love about her speeches. She said, I've got three
Speaker 3: people that I must think before I go any further,
Speaker 3: and that is Lotti, Dottie and everybody.
Speaker 6: I thought that was a relatable, you know.
Speaker 3: Piece and remarks The reason why I wanted the clip
Speaker 3: that we played of the comments she made is that
Speaker 3: you can insert any Democratic candidate running for a statewide
Speaker 3: US Senate seat on the Democratic side in any state
Speaker 3: and you're pretty much going to hear that same order.
Speaker 3: Delivery may be different. They may insert their own sort
Speaker 3: of stories, but the playbook is going to look the same.
Speaker 3: And what I would caution on that because I think
Speaker 3: similar things happened for Valdemings in Florida, and that loss
Speaker 3: was nearly nineteen points or twenty points, twenty one points,
Speaker 3: maybe it was. And the same electric that you know,
Speaker 3: the difference between me and my opponent, and that same
Speaker 3: electric was point, you know, zero three, So there was
Speaker 3: a huge slide there. And I think part of that
Speaker 3: is is that, Yeah, the DSCC may have a playbook, y'all,
Speaker 3: but when you're running in your state, be in your state,
Speaker 3: adopt the issues of your state, talk about what's happening
Speaker 3: in your state because the federal stuff. The playbook may
Speaker 3: work some places, but for us, particularly candidates of color
Speaker 3: who are not typical to many of these ballots at
Speaker 3: statewide races, we have to do it differently. We don't
Speaker 3: get afforded the luxury of the pull and play model
Speaker 3: for running these races. We have to show up one
Speaker 3: as ourselves believable, and two we have to run our
Speaker 3: races like our heart sind you nerve will dictate, not
Speaker 3: like some playbook, because I think it's been a failing
Speaker 3: strategy for us.
Speaker 14: Even when I decided to run for Congress, I had
Speaker 14: never run for anything in my life. I had just
Speaker 14: been widowed the year before I decided to run, and
Speaker 14: I was over fifty, all of those things that people say, oh,
Speaker 14: you can't do it. And I think that this moment,
Speaker 14: the fact that I'm running, the fact that there are
Speaker 14: other black women who are running, the fact that you know,
Speaker 14: we have historic candidates that are stepping up at all levels,
Speaker 14: not just in the Senate. Really, I hope inspires others
Speaker 14: to just do their part, whatever that is, whether it's
Speaker 14: running or running a campaign or contributing. My best friend
Speaker 14: she said, I don't have money to give you, but
Speaker 14: I could make you patsa spaghetti and beef stew.
Speaker 4: And that's what she did for me.
Speaker 14: So I think this moment is a special one to
Speaker 14: me personally. You know, it is not lost on me
Speaker 14: that there are currently no black women in the Senate,
Speaker 14: and so to be able to represent is important and
Speaker 14: also and probably more equally is important to me. It's
Speaker 14: representing my state, you know, that is important to me
Speaker 14: as well. So I don't people ask like, what does
Speaker 14: it feel like to make history? And I think for
Speaker 14: many of us, we're not thinking about making history. We're
Speaker 14: thinking about doing the work.
Speaker 7: Didn't have a choice, so she's making history hopefully, but
Speaker 7: also she knows that she doesn't have a choice.
Speaker 6: She always is going to serve.
Speaker 7: I don't want to say two masters, but two different entities,
Speaker 7: and sometimes those are competing interest being an elected official
Speaker 7: and a fully black body, and also having to represent
Speaker 7: the interests of your constituents that may or may not
Speaker 7: look like the community you come from. So I think
Speaker 7: it's always a profound conundrum that our folks find theirselves
Speaker 7: in themselves in. And we also are stuck with campaign
Speaker 7: entities like the DSc that don't recognize it, that don't
Speaker 7: hire consultants that look for look towards doing things that
Speaker 7: are represent our best interests.
Speaker 6: Andrew, you hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 7: You were able to go rogue for so long because
Speaker 7: you were not the person they picked. And by the
Speaker 7: time they picked you, you had already built your campaign
Speaker 7: on authenticity and who you actually are. And I just
Speaker 7: hope that more candidates are able to carve out that
Speaker 7: courageous lane because we will not see a bench that
Speaker 7: continues to grow without.
Speaker 4: That and having people.
Speaker 1: I also think Angela, you being on the trail with Andrew,
Speaker 1: like she talked about her best friend, was like, I
Speaker 1: kind of have money, but I can make you spaghetti.
Speaker 1: I think you're having to tribe around you to do
Speaker 1: things like that Angela and that person so many times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just real people around you aren't yes people who
Speaker 1: are gonna tell you the real So all those things matter. Andrew,
Speaker 1: I have a.
Speaker 4: Question for you.
Speaker 3: I think I know where you're going.
Speaker 4: W t S is going on at FAM.
Speaker 1: You don't answer, We're gonna take a break. But on
Speaker 1: the other side, I need to know.
Speaker 6: No, I love y'all, I'm nervous. I'm trying for y'all.
Speaker 1: We love you, FAM. You, We're rooting for y'all. All right,
Speaker 1: don't go anywhere, don't go anywhere you go. You gotta
Speaker 1: pay some bills. But the other side, FAM.
Speaker 12: You.
Speaker 2: Welcome, welcome, welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 3: On behalf of the batter Send I think batter Send
Speaker 3: Family Trust.
Speaker 14: We want to present it to university with a special
Speaker 14: gift save you about.
Speaker 6: Two hundred and thirty seven million dollars.
Speaker 4: Guys, all right, we got to talk about sham you.
Speaker 1: That was the voice of a previously unknown, mysterious thirty
Speaker 1: year old Texas hemp farmer who gifted gifted in quotes
Speaker 1: Florida A and M universe grifts hundred and thirty ooh, who
Speaker 1: grifted Thank you, angel who griffed two hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: seven million dollars.
Speaker 4: But less than one week.
Speaker 1: That joyous applause that you heard it turned into skepticism
Speaker 1: and questions abound about who exactly is this guy, does
Speaker 1: he actually have this money, and whether the university sufficiently
Speaker 1: vetted the gift. Now fam you has paused the deal
Speaker 1: while it further assesses the donation's value from a company
Speaker 1: which really appears to have limited an amateurist online presence
Speaker 1: zero for an allegedly highly successful business zero. As Angela says,
Speaker 1: there's also a number or there's also significant reporting from
Speaker 1: a number of outlets about Garami. I believe it's how
Speaker 1: you pronounce his name, who previously backed out of a
Speaker 1: ninety five million dollar pledge to Coastal Carolina University. For
Speaker 1: more on this, we turned to our president, expert and
Speaker 1: senior family analyt. I just said one thing for you,
Speaker 1: says something remarkably intelligent.
Speaker 3: Please, I.
Speaker 6: Just have one flag.
Speaker 7: If you go back to the picture of this man
Speaker 7: at the commencement speech, anybody that was wearing a COVID
Speaker 7: pandemic related mask from the dollar tree, and the mask
Speaker 7: is down here. It's not even on your nose, it's
Speaker 7: just down here a mask. Follow if you can't afford
Speaker 7: to buy a new mask, Sir, you ain't got turned
Speaker 7: in thirty seven million dollars to give us?
Speaker 4: Like what are we doing?
Speaker 3: What are we even talking about?
Speaker 6: Nobody vetted, Nobody added how he's looking at the graduation.
Speaker 4: Like are well these tell us? Because you're on the
Speaker 4: border and you have breaking news? I think you there is.
Speaker 3: Andrew, Listen, I'm hurt. I'm really hurt by this. I mean,
Speaker 3: I love I love I love my institution, and I
Speaker 3: love HBCUs And the announcement of a gift of that
Speaker 3: size two hundred and thirty seven million which by the way,
Speaker 3: is double fam USE current endowment and famuse current endowment
Speaker 3: is probably double that of the majority of HBCUs in
Speaker 3: the country, with exceptions that we would all be able
Speaker 3: to click off, you know, real quick, those are the
Speaker 3: ones that always get you know, uh, donations of that size.
Speaker 3: But just to put it in perspective, and I don't
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't say this defensively, but to say that,
Speaker 3: oftentimes HBCUs are not the benefactors of these size individual gifts. Typically.
Speaker 3: You know, if if you're at an HBCU, you're getting
Speaker 3: these kinds of gifts and not of that size, by
Speaker 3: the way, But if they do come, they're coming from
Speaker 3: the government or they're coming from some corporate entity. This this, this,
Speaker 3: I mean, Angela, you must have been. You must have
Speaker 3: been in my text messages because everybody, first of all,
Speaker 3: I will say, the moment this thing came across the feed,
Speaker 3: rattlers across the nation took to the internet being like,
Speaker 3: he ain't my classmate, who all know him? I mean,
Speaker 3: it was basically like you might fake, you might fake
Speaker 3: the handshake of the frat, but soon enough is about
Speaker 3: to catch up with you because somebody has to know you, right,
Speaker 3: So nobody knows the guy as they start, you know,
Speaker 3: making the rounds, and in short order people start to
Speaker 3: pop up what is readily available out there about the guy,
Speaker 3: which is that he's got no footprint whatsoever. The woman
Speaker 3: he's named as the co president of his company, you know,
Speaker 3: goes out and does an interview says, I've never even
Speaker 3: worked for that company he four years prior to this point.
Speaker 3: This money supposedly comes from his business and a family trust,
Speaker 3: an inheritance, except a go fund Me account was set
Speaker 3: up for his mother's health illness and for his brother's funeral,
Speaker 3: a go fund Me account that was publicly out there
Speaker 3: on the web for anybody to see. So the lack
Speaker 3: of vetting on this has flamoxed the board of trustees.
Speaker 4: Question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the board of trustees, the family foundation, all of
Speaker 3: which you learned of this gift on the day of
Speaker 3: the announcement being made insane And that is because he
Speaker 3: forced the university leadership into a NDA, which I didn't
Speaker 3: even know were legal for public institutions in the state
Speaker 3: of Florida. But however, the university agreed to an NDA
Speaker 3: and then the final executing agreement y'all that was made
Speaker 3: public didn't even have the man's signature on this signature line.
Speaker 3: It is up to But I will tell you because
Speaker 3: as we are recording, as we are taping, as we're
Speaker 3: speaking with each other. Right now, the Family Board of
Speaker 3: Trustees is meeting for the first time since the announcements
Speaker 3: of this gift and their immediate skepticism about its truth.
Speaker 3: And a few moments ago I received a text stating
Speaker 3: that the vice president and the executive director over the
Speaker 3: Fam You Foundation, which is the recipient organization, the direct
Speaker 3: support organization of Fam You, the institution who would be
Speaker 3: the recipient of this two hundred and thirty seven million,
Speaker 3: the executive director has stepped down from that role. She is,
Speaker 3: as I know her, of very talented woman. She's also
Speaker 3: the dean of School of Business and Industry and accomplished
Speaker 3: graduates herself. Say that again she's going to maintain that position,
Speaker 3: but she will leave the Fam You Foundation again, which
Speaker 3: was the sort of negotiating organization here. And just so
Speaker 3: that anybody is confused, how do we get to this
Speaker 3: number two hundred and thirty seven million? What the god
Speaker 3: did this holster did? Was said, he transferred what he
Speaker 3: valued as two hundred and thirty seven million and stock
Speaker 3: of his non publicly traded company. And because it is
Speaker 3: non publicly traded, it actually has no value. You can't
Speaker 3: actually apply value other than the value that he says
Speaker 3: it has. So according to experts, the value could be
Speaker 3: anywhere from zero to three hundred million.
Speaker 7: And I just don't understand how this is not criminal?
Speaker 7: How is this not criminal?
Speaker 6: Do you guys.
Speaker 4: Know it.
Speaker 7: Gets criminal. It's it's massive for you. So I'm just
Speaker 7: trying to understand what we're doing here, because you know
Speaker 7: where we're out here on the front lines of a
Speaker 7: whole case around fraud, that where there's a whole public battle.
Speaker 7: But this is what's going on anyway. The one thing
Speaker 7: that I wanted.
Speaker 6: To flag here is the largest.
Speaker 7: Gift to an HBCU in history before this gift of
Speaker 7: dust was one hundred million dollars to Spellman from Rohnda
Speaker 7: Striker and William Johnston earlier this year.
Speaker 6: One hundred million dollars. That's the largest gift in history.
Speaker 7: So he more than doubled it in dust and embarrassed
Speaker 7: this not only the like sole a moment at the
Speaker 7: commencement for the twenty four graduates.
Speaker 6: No, of course he did, but it doesn't matter.
Speaker 7: Like somebody, there should be a robust very you know,
Speaker 7: a detailed background check, looking at his assets, verifying where
Speaker 7: the actual money is in the bank before you do
Speaker 7: anything like that. I sit on a board of an HBCU.
Speaker 7: I sit on the Wilberforce board. This would not happen
Speaker 7: at Wilberforce. There are too many people who are business
Speaker 7: professionals who would be like, no, no, no, before we
Speaker 7: sign an NBA, these are the things that we have
Speaker 7: to verify. So it's just mind blowing to me that
Speaker 7: he got this far with his little cheap ass dollar
Speaker 7: tree mask on at the graduation, making a mockery of
Speaker 7: one of our best and brider institutions.
Speaker 6: It is insanity.
Speaker 1: Deverron Gibbons, he's a vice president and a family board
Speaker 1: of trustees and Angela. It sounds like he feels like
Speaker 1: you and I do. Just want to say because he
Speaker 1: has questions too, so you know, the questions to to blame.
Speaker 1: But let's just take a listen to hear what mister
Speaker 1: Gibbons had to say.
Speaker 15: I would ask, you know, what is the valuation, who
Speaker 15: did the valuation? What was to deep dive in background
Speaker 15: on Matterson Farms and or the donor. What obligations does
Speaker 15: the university have?
Speaker 1: So Angela, all the questions that you say should have
Speaker 1: been asked. At least there is somebody out there saying
Speaker 1: these who agrees with you and has a fiducial responsibility
Speaker 1: to the university.
Speaker 3: And Trustee Gibbons is on the fam YOU Board of Trustees.
Speaker 3: Y'all should have heard the FAMU Foundation's board meeting which
Speaker 3: was which was intense and at that level you had
Speaker 3: finance experts on famu's board foundation board who were asking
Speaker 3: questions that I had. I wouldn't know where to begin
Speaker 3: or in and I said on fam USE Board of Trustees,
Speaker 3: but I have to tell you the university, the university
Speaker 3: committed a huge fail for fam you to be the
Speaker 3: largest single campus HBCU in the United States, for us
Speaker 3: to produce more baccul laureate, masterial, and doctoral degree holders
Speaker 3: of any institution in the country, to have been listed
Speaker 3: as the number one college, beating out Harvard University now
Speaker 3: twice with our recruitment of national merit scholars, producing more
Speaker 3: of those graduates than any other institution at one time.
Speaker 3: It is it's extremely embarrassing, Yes, but it is also
Speaker 3: deeply hurtful. And so while I definitely have to take
Speaker 3: fam use leadership to task, and I'll do that another
Speaker 3: way on another day, I also want to take to
Speaker 3: task this what I think has to be undiagnosed or
Speaker 3: maybe diagnosed narcissist and maybe even worse fraud fraudster who
Speaker 3: who made a habit prior to us It was Coastal
Speaker 3: Carolina University where he made a uh some tens of
Speaker 3: million dollars game a commitment there. So but but folks
Speaker 3: out there who are shysters like this, like where do
Speaker 3: you get off? What? What satisfaction do you get being
Speaker 3: being demonstrated to the whole world as a fraudster and
Speaker 3: then taking a distinguished institution and dragging it through the mud.
Speaker 3: And not because we didn't go unwillingly, because there was
Speaker 3: a lot of willing walking that took place before the dragging.
Speaker 3: It just it's very upsetting and given the needs of
Speaker 3: our HBCUs around the country, not just fam but across
Speaker 3: the board, this is a devastating blow and I believe
Speaker 3: that additional heads are going to have to roll here.
Speaker 4: Yes, and well keep us posted.
Speaker 1: Andrew because this is this is definitely and literally in
Speaker 1: your backyard.
Speaker 4: Just to yeah literally.
Speaker 1: And you you know are you are in FAMU and
Speaker 1: of fam you in every way somebody can be. As
Speaker 1: I close this out, I do just want to point
Speaker 1: out that big philanthropy support of HBCUs declined from two
Speaker 1: thousand and two to twenty nineteen. This is from an
Speaker 1: organization called Candidate, who published philanthropy and HBCUs foundation funding
Speaker 1: to HBCUs. Comparatively, Ivy League schools received a combine five
Speaker 1: point five billion dollars in philanthropic dollars from twenty fifteen
Speaker 1: to twenty nineteen, compared with HBCUs three hundred and three million.
Speaker 3: And you know, we're under assault on both sides, right.
Speaker 3: We talked about TSU earlier, So the state sponsor schools
Speaker 3: are trying to shutter them, and then you've got the
Speaker 3: private donations being down at these institutions. Don't let this
Speaker 3: serve as a reflection of the great work that is
Speaker 3: happening to produce these graduates on these HBCU campuses. This
Speaker 3: was a failure at a staff level and a leadership level,
Speaker 3: and those folks have to be accountable to that. But
Speaker 3: make no mistake, y'all. If you're making a choice around
Speaker 3: attending in HBCU, you make that choice based off of
Speaker 3: the merits of the programs. It's its reputation of its
Speaker 3: graduates and its degrees and not including of some individuals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're coming up on the mountain, but you've produced
Speaker 1: the largest black professionals and fields of medicine, law, engineering,
Speaker 1: and war. So HBC you strong, HPC pride. All right,
Speaker 1: we got to take a quick break, but I got
Speaker 1: a question for Angel, and come back, Angel. I want
Speaker 1: to know what is the latest with Marilyn Moseby. You've
Speaker 1: been all over her situation and we want to make
Speaker 1: sure that we're doing everything we can and want to
Speaker 1: be supportive. So I want to get the latest on
Speaker 1: that and what you've all been waiting for. My Hot Sports.
Speaker 3: Tape, the Hot Sports bills.
Speaker 4: We'll see you on the other side of this.
Speaker 8: Is a place where basketball mount beautiful pass.
Speaker 4: So if you catch it, if.
Speaker 9: You love the.
Speaker 3: Basketball, accoudible, welcome to the w.
Speaker 1: All right, Welcome back, everybody. I got a question. Have
Speaker 1: you all been watching the games? I think, okay, let me.
Speaker 4: Yes, I have.
Speaker 1: I've been super into it, so on Tuesday night the
Speaker 1: w n B A I watched the WNBA game and
Speaker 1: My Knicks because I've designed there my team. My Knicks
Speaker 1: was facing off with the Pacers, and I was torn
Speaker 1: because these games are playing at the same time and
Speaker 1: I have not been this torn since they put a
Speaker 1: different world up against flipping back and forth trying to
Speaker 1: keep up. And I gotta say, I feel like a
Speaker 1: trader because I was watching more of the Knicks game
Speaker 1: just because I had been following them. But I did
Speaker 1: watch Caitlin Clark ball on that court.
Speaker 4: I'm just into it.
Speaker 6: I'm she got Molly wopped sis.
Speaker 4: I know they lost, but I still with her first television.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm glad that you pointed that out because
Speaker 1: this is well, Angela's make a good point about her
Speaker 1: getting Molly wopps because because Angela's looking at the score, well,
Speaker 1: her assessment of the mollywopification I think is something worth
Speaker 1: talking about. But I think Angela's point is not all
Speaker 1: about Caitlin Clark. There are other people, and head coach
Speaker 1: of the Minnesota Link, Cheryl Reef, has something to say
Speaker 1: about that. I'm sorry, Angela, we're playing the head coach
Speaker 1: of the links. They played the Seattle Storm, and Angela's
Speaker 1: gonna tell us why. She She might have a guess
Speaker 1: she would this sound bite, but let's hear from Cheryl Reeve.
Speaker 16: The growth is happening so fast, it's so accelerated. And
Speaker 16: I've been saying this in our own organization that business
Speaker 16: as usual isn't gonna work anymore. You're gonna get left behind. Certainly,
Speaker 16: Caitlin's first game, you know, they were going to value
Speaker 16: I'm all for that.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 16: You know, people want to see that, but they also
Speaker 16: want to see you know, it's not just about Caitlin,
Speaker 16: you know, and it isn't Caitlyn's fault in any way.
Speaker 16: It's more, you know, the recognition that there's general excitement
Speaker 16: about the w m A in ways that we haven't
Speaker 16: seen before, and so we have to capitalize, you know.
Speaker 6: To really ensure that this is a movement.
Speaker 16: We have to capitalize on those things.
Speaker 1: I thank you, right, Angela. I we missed each other.
Speaker 1: We were calling each other What were you doing Tuesday? While
Speaker 1: I was watching two basketball games? What were you doing?
Speaker 7: I was at the Seattle Storm season opener. One of
Speaker 7: the three of us kept our promise to go to
Speaker 7: a season opener of the w n b A and
Speaker 7: I represented on behalf of all of you because that's
Speaker 7: what family does, and so did Mom and popa Rye.
Speaker 7: So we sat almost court side. Courtside was actually sewed
Speaker 7: out in the town.
Speaker 6: Which is great.
Speaker 7: But we were a couple of rows back and we
Speaker 7: were very much so enjoying a very competitive game. And
Speaker 7: then there was a breakout moment in the fourth quarter
Speaker 7: with the Lynx and Seattle lost by thirteen points, but
Speaker 7: I am elated to welcome anneka a Gooma, kay and Skyler.
Speaker 6: Why can't I think of Skyler's last name right now? Skyler?
Speaker 7: Uh, I know better than this. I know Skyler. Like anyway,
Speaker 7: this is bad. Let me look at Skyler, Digg and Smith.
Speaker 7: I was trying to say, William so bad.
Speaker 3: And I don't know why.
Speaker 1: Skyler killed it. Anecca killed it and they this was
Speaker 1: like there.
Speaker 7: This is their first season with the Storm and just
Speaker 7: to watch them melding with their new team is great.
Speaker 7: Definitely miss Stewie and all of that good stuff. And
Speaker 7: so Sue Bird is now part of the ownership group.
Speaker 7: She got a standard ovation which was amazing. But yeah,
Speaker 7: it's it's it's I think it's gonna be a great season,
Speaker 7: and and watching the melt was good. My dad is
Speaker 7: one of the people who's like, at two minutes left,
Speaker 7: if your team is getting molly wipped, it's like, we
Speaker 7: gotta go, let's go, let's speak the crowd. So I
Speaker 7: was like, he's like, we got here.
Speaker 1: So you're a Storm fan in the w n B A,
Speaker 1: do you have a team on the NBA side?
Speaker 6: You know, I had a team.
Speaker 7: They were called the Seattle SuperSonics, and Howard sold them
Speaker 7: to Oklahoma City Thunder or Oklahoma City and they became
Speaker 7: Oklahoma City Thunder to everybody else. To me, they're the
Speaker 7: Oklahoma City thunder cat because I'm still mad years later.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I think I've always been a Lakers fan.
Speaker 7: I was a Laker girl for Halloween in the fifth grade.
Speaker 7: You know, we can we can claim that. And then
Speaker 7: I just mostly like to see a good game, Tiff,
Speaker 7: you know, like we advt What I like.
Speaker 1: I know that is I like to see a competitive game.
Speaker 1: Skylar charge it to my head and not my heart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Angela out here fighting for causes. So she and managed
Speaker 1: to go to the game.
Speaker 3: So we love I do hope that we don't run
Speaker 3: away from standout players in the w NBA out of
Speaker 3: out of a fidelity to you know, wanting to say,
Speaker 3: you know, everybody contributes, everybody makes this thing work, and
Speaker 3: that kind of thing. You know, we didn't do that
Speaker 3: a lot with with with Magic and with Jordan. You know,
Speaker 3: they they were what they were. People appreciated what the
Speaker 3: what the supporting casts did in order to make those
Speaker 3: teams as great as they were. But you know, sometimes
Speaker 3: it takes that kind of individual to then make the attraction,
Speaker 3: make the game, you know, more attractive, and then people
Speaker 3: start to have other kinds of favorites. But if you
Speaker 3: can get eyes on the game based off of the
Speaker 3: celebrity of one or two or three, I say do
Speaker 3: that and then let the teams work speak for itself.
Speaker 10: Let's let well, the.
Speaker 1: Same thing happened in the NBA. The w NBA last
Speaker 1: year thirty six million total unique viewers. That was their
Speaker 1: hot and that wasn't twenty twenty three. It was the
Speaker 1: highest figure since two thousand and eight. It was a
Speaker 1: twenty seven percent increase. They also brought in more than
Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars in revenue as a WNBA with
Speaker 1: a huge increase in fans. Now the NBA, by contrast,
Speaker 1: is bringing in one point six million viewers across networks.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't always like that. The NBA's had a
Speaker 1: fifty year head start, and there was a time where
Speaker 1: people weren't watching. And I can tell you I know
Speaker 1: that the Lakers were instrumental in increasing NBA viewership. And
Speaker 1: I know this because it was well documented in HBO's
Speaker 1: Winning Time, starring a very impressive ensemble cast. So I
Speaker 1: know all about the showtime, Lakers and very beach.
Speaker 4: They don't like that, they do not. I don't know, Angela.
Speaker 4: One day, this might be a mini pod.
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me why everybody had a
Speaker 1: problem with HBO's Winning Time, because I thought it was great.
Speaker 1: And I just want to say this real quick in
Speaker 1: case y'all know something about it. Remember we were talking
Speaker 1: about selling the tv LI licensing deals. Well, the Ringer
Speaker 1: podcast or Bill Simmons, he claims that it's already done
Speaker 1: and he thinks that NBC is getting it. So I'm
Speaker 1: just sharing that here for the licensing deals because I'm
Speaker 1: I'm all into all aspects of these sporting.
Speaker 3: Games starting to impress me girl.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I worked for.
Speaker 1: And when football season starts, we'll have a little debrief
Speaker 1: and then we'll figure out who my team is there.
Speaker 1: But I'm figure out, guys. I love talking about this
Speaker 1: topic with you, guys. I'm very excited and shout out
Speaker 1: to the devil.
Speaker 3: I will tell you r J in my household thought
Speaker 3: you were an expert until she heard us joke and
Speaker 3: she was like, you mean to tell me She not?
Speaker 3: I said, she is an expert.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am an expert, and thank you r J
Speaker 1: for recognizing.
Speaker 7: My especially on the media side, like the news that
Speaker 7: great when you talk about I cannot think of Skyler's
Speaker 7: Skyler digg and Smith.
Speaker 1: It will never happen against his. I'm sorry, Skyler digg
Speaker 1: and Smith. I'm gonna remember your name from now. I'm happy, though, Angeline,
Speaker 1: all seriousness that you got to take your parents at
Speaker 1: the Seattle Storm game. I feel like you've been working
Speaker 1: really hard. You need a breather, which is going to
Speaker 1: bring us to our next topic, because I do. I
Speaker 1: want to know what's the latest with Marilyn Moseby, and
Speaker 1: I want to know what you need from us and
Speaker 1: what Maryland needs from us and how we can be
Speaker 1: the most supportive.
Speaker 7: You know, thank you number one. Are you guys regularly
Speaker 7: are shouting me out? But this really was a platform
Speaker 7: that created space for us to share Marylyn's story when
Speaker 7: a lot of people weren't listening. There are so many
Speaker 7: people out there that still believe because there was a
Speaker 7: press release that went out from DJ or because there
Speaker 7: were negative articles in the Baltimore Banner or the Baltimore Sun,
Speaker 7: or on this you know this person's Twitter feed, that
Speaker 7: it automatically means fact.
Speaker 6: Andrew, I know you know firsthand.
Speaker 3: I know it too well.
Speaker 7: That that is not the case, and so I would
Speaker 7: I would challenge you all first as this call to action,
Speaker 7: our collective call to action, to please please interrogate the facts.
Speaker 7: Do not take whatever headlines word for it. It does
Speaker 7: not mean it's true. Marilyn Moseby is in and should
Speaker 7: not be facing forty years in prison. She is scheduled
Speaker 7: to be sentenced on May twenty third. The prosecution has
Speaker 7: requested that she served twenty months.
Speaker 6: Imagine wasting millions.
Speaker 7: Of dollars of taxpayer resources to go back and not
Speaker 7: even ask for two years in prison. Not that we
Speaker 7: want her to serve any time in prison. But imagine
Speaker 7: the millions of dollars your money that was wasted over
Speaker 7: her money that she needs to acquire property. Her money,
Speaker 7: her retirement money, which that she contributed to every.
Speaker 3: Other her salary, her salary stuff.
Speaker 6: It's her retirement account.
Speaker 3: Her check is salary that she defers. That's the point
Speaker 3: I was going to.
Speaker 6: But it was pulled out of her check every time.
Speaker 3: Absolutely her money.
Speaker 7: But I'm saying for some people deferred as hard. It's
Speaker 7: her retirement account. Some people have four oh one ks.
Speaker 7: Some people call them deferred compensation plans. On the hill
Speaker 7: is the thrift savings plan, whatever you call it. It's
Speaker 7: her money that was pulled out of her check every
Speaker 7: couple of weeks for eight years, and she didn't withdraw
Speaker 7: the full amount.
Speaker 6: Here's where we are now.
Speaker 7: Marilyn Moseby has filed her pardon application with the United
Speaker 7: States Department of Justice pardon attorney.
Speaker 6: Her name is Liz Oyer.
Speaker 7: Liz has the responsibility of reviewing that pardon application and
Speaker 7: submitting her recommendation to the President. Make your request known
Speaker 7: to the White House. Let them know how you feel
Speaker 7: about pardoning Marilyn Moseby. Know that a historic almost sixty
Speaker 7: lawyers signed on to Marilyn Moseby's pardon application. That never happens.
Speaker 7: It's normally one person is maybe a couple sixty almost
Speaker 7: sixty lawyers including Barry Sheck, Ben Crump, Bacari, sellers, so
Speaker 7: many that sign. Barbara Arnwine like legend in yeah in
Speaker 7: the legal field signed onto this. So Sean Chapman, Holly,
Speaker 7: I can keep naming people, but thank God for all
Speaker 7: of you, the Mario, so many of y'all, and of
Speaker 7: course Jeff Trevillion was the lead attorney on the part app.
Speaker 6: I just want you all to apply pressure.
Speaker 7: If you can show up in Green Belt, Maryland next
Speaker 7: week at ten thirty am Eastern.
Speaker 6: Show up.
Speaker 7: If you haven't shared the petition with your friends and
Speaker 7: family yet, send it. If you want to write a letter,
Speaker 7: if you want to send an email to the White
Speaker 7: House saying what is taking y'all so long?
Speaker 6: Do it?
Speaker 7: Just keep interrogating what happened? Look up Leo Wise, Look
Speaker 7: up Larry Hogan. We talked about Angela also Brooks earlier
Speaker 7: in this show. Larry Hogan will be her opponent. This
Speaker 7: man single handedly tried to destroy Marilyn Moseby's legacy. He
Speaker 7: tried to take away the funding from her prosecutorial office.
Speaker 7: This man should not see another day in office in
Speaker 7: any way, shape or form in Maryland. Look at all
Speaker 7: of these players, you will see that these are a
Speaker 7: bunch of people that were out to sit make an
Speaker 7: example out of a progressive black woman prosecutor. And she
Speaker 7: is not the only one. There are other folks coming forward.
Speaker 7: You will hear about them very soon. Justice from Marilynmosby
Speaker 7: dot com. To sign the petition and please interrogate these facts. Y'all,
Speaker 7: do not take a headline's word for it. Even if
Speaker 7: you don't, just listen to me, ask me questions, challenge
Speaker 7: what we are saying about this. But I promise you
Speaker 7: this is a grave injustice and we must stand up
Speaker 7: and be her.
Speaker 3: That's real.
Speaker 1: You know, we did Don Lemon's shows and the way
Speaker 1: that you laid it out. Thanks shout out to Don
Speaker 1: Lemon and thank you Don support Don so, thank you
Speaker 1: Don for having us. But the way that you laid
Speaker 1: it out on Don show where you talked about like
Speaker 1: this is the confluence of three powerful white men, Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: Larry Hogan and Leo Wise, who are targeting a strong,
Speaker 1: fierce black woman who was trying to disrupt the status
Speaker 1: quo in the very unforgiving criminal justice system that disproportionately
Speaker 1: targets us. So this boomerang that's happening, I think, you know,
Speaker 1: when we all remember that moment in American history, you
Speaker 1: cannot tell the story of America the past twenty years
Speaker 1: without telling the story of Marilyn Moseby and when she
Speaker 1: stood on that line and said, our time is now.
Speaker 1: I just feel like we can't abandon cord in this moment.
Speaker 1: So people, yes, and so all the people who keep
Speaker 1: it's more than just liking a post, sharing about like hashtag.
Speaker 1: Activism has to go further. So for the people who
Speaker 1: it frustrates me, and I appreciate y'all support. But for
Speaker 1: the people who are asking, well, how do you sign
Speaker 1: a petition?
Speaker 4: Where is it? Google works wonders.
Speaker 1: You can google Marylynd Mosey petition, You can google Marilyn Moseby.
Speaker 1: Angela just gave the sight justice for Marilyn Moseby. Please
Speaker 1: do as much as you can. If everybody does a little,
Speaker 1: nobody has to do a lot. Call the White House,
Speaker 1: call your representative, whatever you can make noise, make this heard.
Speaker 1: May twenty thirds show up like. These are easy things
Speaker 1: if you can physically be there, great if you can't.
Speaker 1: The Internet works, wonders, Google works, wonders. Make your voice,
Speaker 1: not share it in your group chats. Do do better
Speaker 1: than the best, that you can do, more than you
Speaker 1: thought you could do. And imagine if it for you
Speaker 1: in this situation, would you like to be right? And
Speaker 1: there is no victim here? That's the important things which
Speaker 1: Marilyn is exactly.
Speaker 3: She is the vica because this woman had the audacity
Speaker 3: to make true, to make real that no person, no man, woman, child,
Speaker 3: or otherwise is above the law. That was it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she challenged the system that not in words, but in
Speaker 3: practice reserved space for some people to be above the law,
Speaker 3: especially if you had a badge. And she said, no
Speaker 3: person is And they said, oh you is that right?
Speaker 3: Well let's see what we can do with you.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that can serve as our collective call
Speaker 1: to action. UH for the three of us Angela, we
Speaker 1: continue to thank.
Speaker 4: You for your work for all God said.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't even you know a lot of people would know
Speaker 1: about this case were it not for you. So we
Speaker 1: just want to thank you and honor you for that.
Speaker 7: Even the petition is by Native Lampard and I just
Speaker 7: want you all to know you don't have an excuse
Speaker 7: to be silent, because even my stomach is hollering throughout
Speaker 7: all this podcast.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you all have heard it the
Speaker 6: entire time. It's like barking.
Speaker 10: I hear you.
Speaker 4: I'm starving, I'm.
Speaker 3: I don't know what.
Speaker 6: Sorry.
Speaker 1: If you got.
Speaker 3: A note, yes, happy birthday to my son Davis.
Speaker 7: He turns seven by seven.
Speaker 3: That's our James birthday was last week and this upcoming Sunday,
Speaker 3: Jay will graduate with their NBA from America University, American Washington.
Speaker 3: Jesus have Mercy, George, George and my twins will turn
Speaker 3: ten double digits on Sunday, So we got to.
Speaker 6: That is a vasy.
Speaker 4: Nephews and cocktails.
Speaker 1: It'll be birthday cocktails, congratulation cocktails.
Speaker 6: I love you, Jay, Jay, you are a rock. We
Speaker 6: love you.
Speaker 7: You're a rock and a rock star. And to all
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Speaker 4: On my watch.
Speaker 3: You're a worst wonders don't listen.
Speaker 6: He's not drugging his kids, y'all. Just he the baby
Speaker 6: had an allergic I didn't like.
Speaker 4: Only Andrew and Angeline know that I don't want her.
Speaker 6: I'm benadryl.
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