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Speaker 2: Welcome Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome Home to the Native landing

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Speaker 4: Welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 1: This is episode nineteen of Native LAMPI where we give

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Speaker 1: it to you straight, no chaser. I am your co

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Speaker 1: host for today, Tiffany Cross, Andrew Gilim and Angela.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: I didn't mean to say for it today.

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Speaker 6: I just meant I'm your co host every day.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's all good your coast every day, but you're

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Speaker 3: leading today.

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Speaker 6: You're welcome home every day.

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Speaker 4: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: This week, will we see a black woman in the Senate.

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Speaker 1: That is the question we have and we're going to

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Speaker 1: get to that answer. Later in the show, and listen,

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Speaker 1: there's too many Saragas out there not willing to commit

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Speaker 1: to accepting election results this year, and everybody's streaming like

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Speaker 1: it as a joke, but we ain't laughing. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about that then. Okay, y'all have asked that,

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Speaker 1: we have answered. We got to talk about family. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't have a lot to say. We're gonna toss

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Speaker 1: that one miss Gilli, King of Orange and Green himself,

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Speaker 1: because we want to know what is up with this

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Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty seven million dollar donation donation in

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Speaker 1: question we get it.

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Speaker 4: Anywhere because we're getting to that. Also, are y'all watching

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Speaker 4: these playoffs?

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Speaker 1: Because I got so much to say about it, and

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Speaker 1: I know that's why you tune in for my sports take.

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Speaker 4: So we're going to get into.

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Speaker 1: That and let me say, welcome to the w We'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what that means later if you don't already know.

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Speaker 1: But before we get into weskracking this week, I just

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Speaker 1: want to throw it back real quick because I have

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Speaker 1: a theory that ain't nothing new under the son. So

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Speaker 1: if you're watching this fresh off the presses, we're going

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Speaker 1: to take it to a throwback Thursday, on May eighteenth,

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Speaker 1: and eighteen ninety six, Scotis ruled separate but equal and

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Speaker 1: plus CV. Ferguson Landmark case. We're still fighting that same

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Speaker 1: battle in a lot of ways. Also, it was on

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Speaker 1: this very day, if you're listening, Thursday, May seventeenth, in

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three, that the televised Watergate hearings began.

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Speaker 4: Who knew a whole fifty one.

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Speaker 1: Years later it would be a complete circus act still

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Speaker 1: going on across all of our screens. And on this day,

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Speaker 1: in May seventeenth, nineteen fifty four, a full seventy years

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Speaker 1: ago today, the United States Supreme Court handed down a

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Speaker 1: unanimous decision in Brown Bee Board. That is the decision

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Speaker 1: that outlawed racial segregation in public schools.

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Speaker 4: I have some thoughts on that, but we don't even

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Speaker 4: have time to get into it.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, doing that because I think that's an interesting Okay, good,

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Speaker 1: So stay tuned. We might have a mini pod coming

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Speaker 1: up for you. Now that we're throwing it back, let's

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Speaker 1: press it for it. Nick, make it like we're in

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Speaker 1: a Freaknick documentary and drop that base.

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Speaker 3: Though?

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Speaker 7: We have a really important announcement. A lot of you

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Speaker 7: all have been asking us where we're going to go,

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Speaker 7: when does our live tour start? And we have breaking

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Speaker 7: news here you're hearing it here. First, we're starting a

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Speaker 7: live tour. But sadly, even though we always welcome you home,

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Speaker 7: you can't necessarily be welcome home.

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Speaker 6: To this particular live show.

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Speaker 7: It is a private conference our friend Kim Blackwell is

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Speaker 7: hosting Accelerate her which we are elated to be participating in.

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Speaker 7: We are going to do a town hall talk and

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Speaker 7: make that our Native Land podcast for next week, so

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Speaker 7: And we also want you to know that as we

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Speaker 7: in that way too. There will be more details about

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Speaker 6: Make sure you do that. And that's that. On that

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Speaker 6: are y'all excited to be in Miami.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Miami's are being with you guys. I like being

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Speaker 1: with you guys in person as you know. We have

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Speaker 1: a good time. I think we have cameras following us

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Speaker 1: all the time because even we're not on the podcast,

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Speaker 1: the most interesting conversation.

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Speaker 4: We laugh, we have fun.

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Speaker 3: We still have some bad behind the scenes from New York. Y'all,

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Speaker 3: me too. What are we gonna do.

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Speaker 7: With all the time, Tip, I don't know. You have

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Speaker 7: grand plans and we have limited times.

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Speaker 3: We may want to see what I have first moments, friend.

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Speaker 1: Fine, fair enough, It's not like bribery footage. I don't

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Speaker 1: approve my lifess Well, you have to talk to Tip,

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Speaker 1: said Andrew, said Tim set his.

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Speaker 6: If you see anything that.

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Speaker 1: Exactly let's get into the show. You guys, y'all know,

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Speaker 1: I hate talking about Trump.

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Speaker 6: You gotta get over it. It's happening.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know we have to talk about it,

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Speaker 1: but I will tell you everything going on. Y'all talk

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Speaker 1: much you want to talk about. So the trial is

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Speaker 1: Michael Cohen testify then h Donald Trump and Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: So that's happening.

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Speaker 1: And then we have these surrogates who are who won't

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Speaker 4: Whoever want to jump in on any of this, go

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Speaker 3: What you got, Angelau, you went to it. I know

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Speaker 3: the agreeing to of the debate right this. Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: he communicated to the commission, basically saying, one y'all lost

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Speaker 3: that were agreed to by both parties and Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: President's of Debate Commission has rules that permit the possible

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Speaker 3: Trump can agree on one thing unanimously, and that is

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Speaker 3: they do not want Joe Kennedy on on a stage

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Speaker 6: That's Joe's jo I just want to make.

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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry Joe, daddy daddy daddy Kennedy.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know that presidential debates matter as much anymore.

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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, Andrew, I do like that

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Speaker 1: like we don't need to hear the cheering back and forth. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: way we've all talked about, like it's a choice between

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Speaker 6: Can I hijack just a moment of this to say,

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Speaker 6: can we please play Joe Biden's clip from Twitter.

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Speaker 4: Andrew asked for that sound. We have it ready to go.

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Speaker 4: Let's if we have it.

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump lost two debates to me in twenty twenty

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Speaker 5: since Sidy hadn't shown up for debate. Now exactly like

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Speaker 5: he wants to debate me again. Will make my day, pal.

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Speaker 5: I'll even do it twice. So let's pick the dates. Donald,

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Speaker 5: I heard, you're free on Wednesdays.

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Speaker 3: A shade.

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Speaker 6: Make my day pal.

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Speaker 3: No, congratulate the man on on spitting out a little

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Speaker 3: light shade.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 3: I like the Wednesday reference. And for y'all who don't know,

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Speaker 3: that's because the judge in Trump's and New York trial

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden was throwing some shade basically like, yeah, I.

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Speaker 7: All I know is the name of this podcast needs

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Speaker 3: Oh. I like it. I appreciated the light shade, by

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Speaker 7: Bet it's fine, we don't have to revisit State of

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Speaker 7: the Union. I guess my thing here is I appreciate

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Speaker 6: I want to know what they're going to talk about.

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Speaker 7: I wish that some of the covers that I saw

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Speaker 7: not just this challenge. I think if you normally this

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Speaker 7: the tension. And from my vantage point, I do want

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Speaker 7: to see a debate on the issues, but I don't

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Speaker 7: think they could, you know, are some at least one

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Speaker 7: I appreciated Joe Biden saying the Presidential Commission on Debates

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Speaker 7: been saying since twenty sixteen, which is, how do you

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Speaker 7: invite a commission in to debates? Or the commission sets

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Speaker 6: That should be.

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Speaker 7: Almost the sole responsibility of the moderator. I couldn't disagree

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Speaker 4: Take a listen.

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Speaker 9: At the end of the day, the forty seventh president

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Speaker 8: Wait wait, senator, yes or no?

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Speaker 10: That is my statement.

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Speaker 8: Just to be very clear, I don't hear you committed

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Speaker 7: Very much says Kabuki theater. I'm sorry, talk to me

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Speaker 3: Essentially, it is it is. It is a side show.

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Speaker 4: Right, they can't.

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Speaker 3: But but this judge is corrupted because his daughter gives

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm actually glad you you brought up Clarence Thomas,

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Speaker 6: This is Scott and Clarence. Please you remember this. You

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Speaker 3: This is the shining.

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Speaker 1: For for our viewers who are listening and not watching,

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Speaker 6: Get out and you know what I was.

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Speaker 3: Like, but the shining get out. Yes, it just says.

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Speaker 7: Snow Andrew, Andrew gonna get these cultural clues today. We

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Speaker 11: This Valentine from Hyattsville, Georgia. So why is it that

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Speaker 3: Thank you, that's all right, Thank you, Valentine.

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Speaker 3: He said that the president appoints justice.

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Speaker 1: In some states, judges are chosen just like any other

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Speaker 7: love for Valentine to take on a campaign where he's like,

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Speaker 7: from now on, Hell, now we're voting for these Supreme

445
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Speaker 7: Court justice because I don't know what they out here doing.

446
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Speaker 7: And then while we're at it, maybe it doesn't need

447
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Speaker 7: to be a lifetime appointment because y'all in here not

448
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Speaker 7: breaking ethics rules back and forth and everything in between.

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Speaker 6: Not y'all Clarence mostly. But you know, we really could put.

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Speaker 7: Some more parameters on that and ensure greater accountability. So

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Speaker 7: I like where he's going, and I think that if

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Speaker 7: our folks, the American people writ large, felt like they

453
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Speaker 7: could take on the system and change it. People would

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Speaker 7: be more engaged overall, which is I think where we

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Speaker 7: were going even with the debate conversation.

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Speaker 6: So, yes, there are some judges that can be voted in.

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Speaker 6: Many are appointed.

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Speaker 7: There are a lot of public officials that are appointed

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Speaker 7: generally at every level of government. But I think there

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Speaker 7: is something to be said about having your voice heard

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Speaker 7: at every level. It would be dope to see some

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Speaker 7: national Supreme Court justices on ballots instead of what we

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Speaker 7: got right.

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Speaker 3: Now, or retention votes like you have in many states

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Speaker 3: for the Supreme courts, the highest courts in the land.

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Speaker 3: In many states, the citizens, if they don't elect them directly,

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Speaker 3: they get to vote to retain them or not to

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Speaker 3: retain them. And if you don't meet the retention threshold,

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Speaker 3: you're out of there. God knows if Clarence Thomas we're

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Speaker 3: on a ballot and we have the choice of whether

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Speaker 3: or not to retain him or not, I guarantee we

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Speaker 3: would have thrown that dude off. But you know, the

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Speaker 3: truth is is and t If you talk about this often,

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Speaker 3: and I appreciate you beating this horse, you know, to death.

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Speaker 3: And that is the difference between how conservatives the Republicans

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Speaker 3: approach appointments to the federal bench and how Democrats seem

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Speaker 3: to approach the appointments. I mean, you had. This is

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Speaker 3: why I think he will go down in history as

479
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Speaker 3: the most powerful law breaking member of the United States Senate.

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Speaker 3: Mitch McConnell, the current Republican leader, who stole a Supreme

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Speaker 3: Court justice seat from Barack Obama. And that's just the

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Speaker 3: one we know about, but ten dozens to hundreds of

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Speaker 3: appointments of federal judges that they just sat on because

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Speaker 3: they didn't believe that a Democrat should be able to

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Speaker 3: appoint these individuals to lifetime appointments. Yet in Trump's case,

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Speaker 3: months before the election, oh he can fill every seat,

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Speaker 3: every vacancy that comes up, and they're you know, full stop, no, no,

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Speaker 3: no hesitation. I will say, this is why I think

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Speaker 3: the Senate and who's in the Senate matters so much.

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Speaker 3: The United States Senate has the role of advising consent

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Speaker 3: of the presidential appointments, and it shows up in no

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Speaker 3: greater place than when it comes to the confirmation, advice

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Speaker 3: and consent process for judicial nominees, not just the Supreme Court,

494
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Speaker 3: but the entire federal bench and the way they have

495
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Speaker 3: muscled this thing of late is essentially to block all

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Speaker 3: democratic president's appointments. Slow drag your feet, require all kinds

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Speaker 3: of hurdles and maneuvers to get through and pass the rules,

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Speaker 3: and Tiff and Angela, what this takes us to is, frankly,

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Speaker 3: last night's you know, this week's primary elections that occurred

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Speaker 3: across a number of states that could yield some differences.

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Speaker 4: Perfect segue, Andrew.

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Speaker 1: Before we get into that, I just want to say

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Speaker 1: really quickly that you've brought up Donald Trump, Mitch McConnell,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump during Donald Trump's one term. So think about

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Speaker 1: this in terms if you got a second term. It's

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Speaker 1: one term. He nominated two hundred and thirty four mostly white,

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Speaker 1: mostly male judges to lifetime appointments. So we get seduced

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Speaker 1: by the Supreme Court and we forget about actions that

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Speaker 1: take place at the lower courts as well.

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Speaker 4: And in the lower courts black women.

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Speaker 1: We were excited about seeing Justice Kintanji Brown Jackson confirmed

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Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court, but black women are grossly underrepresented

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Speaker 1: in lower courts. And to your point, Andrew, that is

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Speaker 1: why there needs to be a black woman in this

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take it.

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Speaker 3: Quick since I know you're gonna throw but since you

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Speaker 3: brought up Donald Trump's appointments Island Cannon as as Angelou

518
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Speaker 3: pointed out in the last episode, a Donald Trump appointment

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Speaker 3: and then how many justices on the US Supreme Court

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Speaker 3: appointed by this president and now reviewing whether or not

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Speaker 3: this man gets to be immune. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So we're gonna talk about the role of the

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Speaker 1: Senate and why there needs to be a black woman

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Speaker 1: in the Senate.

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Speaker 4: There have only been three so far.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break, and on the other

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Speaker 1: side of this break, we're going to get into that.

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Speaker 4: So don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 3: We're right back.

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Speaker 10: Do you have had me at your dinner tables? You

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Speaker 10: have believed, believe, believed.

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Speaker 12: And I think thank you so much. And together tonight

533
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Speaker 12: we have made history.

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Speaker 9: We have made history, and we have done so while

535
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Speaker 9: overcoming steep odds. So for anyone hear me who has

536
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Speaker 9: ever felt counted out, overlooked, and underestimated, I hope you

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Speaker 9: understand and share this moment and know.

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Speaker 12: I hope you know that the impossible is still possible.

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Speaker 12: How many of you know the impossible is still possible,

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Speaker 12: and I am fully aware, and I know that you

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Speaker 12: all as well. The stories like mine don't generally make

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Speaker 12: it to the United States Senate.

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Speaker 4: Listen to this.

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Speaker 1: Of the or more than two thousand people who've served

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Speaker 1: in the United States Senate, only three have been black women,

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Speaker 1: and none of those three served at the same time.

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Speaker 1: So you had Carol Moseley Braun I think she was

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Speaker 1: the first one, Vice President, Kamala Harris, and then La

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Speaker 1: Fonsa Butler who was appointed by Governor Gavin Newsom in California.

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Speaker 1: This week, Angela also Brooks won the Democratic primary for

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Speaker 1: senator in Maryland, so our chances are looking good at

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Speaker 1: having a black woman in the Senate. There's also Lisa

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Speaker 1: Blant Rochester who's running in Delaware. Angela, Andrew, you and I,

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Speaker 1: all of us have talked about this. Angela and I

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Speaker 1: are in a group chat with our lady friends. And

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Speaker 1: Andrew our group chat that we all have together. We've

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Speaker 1: talked about black women in the Senate. We've dissected these

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Speaker 1: races at nauseum. I'm curious, Angela, you and I have

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Speaker 1: talked a lot about I've asked your opinion a lot.

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Speaker 1: I was like, do you think also Brooks is going

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Speaker 1: to win this election. Curious your whole thoughts about black

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Speaker 1: women in the Senate, but also curious your thought about

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Speaker 1: Angela Alsibrooks.

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Speaker 7: I want to congratulate Angela also Brooks on her win.

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Speaker 7: H there are some things that I wish that she

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Speaker 7: would have done, and maybe what I was recommending with

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Speaker 7: a backfired. I thought that she should have confronted David

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Speaker 7: Trone saying jigaboo in a congressional hearing.

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Speaker 4: You know, can you tell us that story briefly?

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Speaker 7: If you just google David Trone jigaboo, you'll see that

571
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Speaker 7: he says jigaboo. He claims even to say bug a

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Speaker 7: boo in a committee hearing in the House.

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Speaker 6: And right after that a.

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Speaker 7: Number of CBS CBC members who are his current colleagues

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Speaker 7: came out to endorse Angela also Brooks in the race.

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Speaker 7: He said some other things that were disparaging along the way,

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Speaker 7: spent a lot of money.

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Speaker 6: I think there's an actual experience. Interesting.

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Speaker 7: Wow, there's a very interesting case study to be held

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Speaker 7: on when resources matter in states and when they really don't.

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Speaker 7: And I think that this is one of those really

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Speaker 7: interesting case studies where money did not win you the race,

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Speaker 7: and so I think that the party actually also has

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Speaker 7: to do a deep dive on when and how they

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Speaker 7: spend resources, because we've been taught in politics that if

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Speaker 7: you throw money at a thing, that you will win,

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Speaker 7: and that is not always the case. So I think

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Speaker 7: there's a remarkable case study here on this. But I

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Speaker 7: congratulate Angela also brooks.

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Speaker 4: Congress to her. I have to say I was looking

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Speaker 4: to hear from her.

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Speaker 1: I think our sister friend Joy Reid has one of

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Speaker 1: those platforms where if you are a she speaks to everybody,

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Speaker 1: but particularly she has a strong army of black women

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Speaker 1: who tune into her, and I kept looking to see

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Speaker 1: Angela also works because I thought that conversation would be

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Speaker 1: a good exchange, and I have to say I was

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Speaker 1: disappointed I didn't see her there. And so often I

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Speaker 1: don't know if this is the case because I wasn't

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Speaker 1: talking to her campaign and dealing with them. But so

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Speaker 1: often we will hire white consultants, white people hailing our comms,

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Speaker 1: and they will put you in places like Honestly, I

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Speaker 1: don't know anybody who watches the Sunday morning talk shows

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Speaker 1: that much anymore who look like us, you know of

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Speaker 1: our our our type of people who and I don't

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Speaker 1: mean even just black folks, I mean like you know,

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Speaker 1: on the younger side, and you know, people who are

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Speaker 1: somewhat aware. I've never heard somebody say, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go because meet the Press is on, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes they have a habit of putting people in traditional places.

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Speaker 1: So I hope to see Angela Alsilbrooks now that the

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Speaker 1: primary is over and she's in the general facing Republican

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Speaker 1: Larry Hogan, who we don't have a lot of nice

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Speaker 1: things to say about. He is still the party of

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I hope to see her on that flat.

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Speaker 3: Is general election, right, I mean Hogan won governor's race

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Speaker 3: and a Democratic you know, for all intent and purpose,

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Speaker 3: Maryland is considered a Democratic, a solidly blue Democratic state.

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Speaker 3: I will tell you, if there is to be a

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Speaker 3: state that would produce a black US senator, Maryland is

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Speaker 3: cut out of the you know, the mold is cut

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Speaker 3: out from that state. It has a high I think

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Speaker 3: it probably a plurality of black voters in its Democratic primary.

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Speaker 3: It's probably to your point, Angelo, where one of the

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Speaker 3: reasons why money didn't get to have the kind of

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Speaker 3: outsized impact that it might normally have. I had a

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Speaker 3: similar situation in my race in Florida, terribly outspent in

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Speaker 3: the primary. We just needed enough for people to know

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Speaker 3: my name and that I was a candidate on the ballot.

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Speaker 3: I think, and and I was impressed to see that

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Speaker 3: that Democratic nominee also also Brooks, I think, as of

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Speaker 3: time of recording, had two hundred and forty three thousand

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Speaker 3: votes and her column compared to former Governor Hogan who

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Speaker 3: had one hundred and forty seven thousand, and again he

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Speaker 3: only you know, there were two competitive primaries, both in

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Speaker 3: the Democratic and the Republican side, and she beasted on

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Speaker 3: the numbers. And if they're able to replicate that without

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Speaker 3: you know, really many forced eras heading into November, I

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Speaker 3: think it'll be a good look. I will say in

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Speaker 3: her speech last night, I think, and I know we've

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Speaker 3: got some sound and I'm not sure if this will

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Speaker 3: be included, but you know, there was a lot of

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Speaker 3: time spent on sort of safety crime. I think that's

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Speaker 3: kind of this poll page from the from the Democratic

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Speaker 3: playbook on these statewide races, and I would just caution

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Speaker 3: the double edged sword when talking about that, particularly for

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Speaker 3: her as a former prosecutor, and a state like balt

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Speaker 3: and a state like Maryland with a city like Baltimore

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Speaker 3: that has had consent decrees passed down against you know,

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Speaker 3: their law enforcement agencies and the collusion between them and

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Speaker 3: their prosecutors up until the point of by the way

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Speaker 3: Marilyn Moseby, where that formal handoff was really disrupted, and

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Speaker 3: she said, accountability has to apply to everybody, and when

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Speaker 3: after law enforcement officers who themselves were breaking the laws.

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Speaker 3: So I would just, you know, I caution on that

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Speaker 3: that you don't try so hard to get to the

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Speaker 3: right that you stumble over step, over break the necks

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Speaker 3: of the folks who bought it to the party trying

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Speaker 3: to get to the prom and you fall short. So

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Speaker 3: I'm wishing her well, and let's hear the sound.

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Speaker 10: And thinking about what's on the line in this election.

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Speaker 13: I hear the stories of those I've had the privilege.

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Speaker 10: Of meeting all across our states.

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Speaker 13: Seniors like my father who thought that they would retire

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Speaker 13: but are back at work to cover the cost of

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Speaker 13: medication and groceries. Young families who find new ways to

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Speaker 13: stretch a dollar each month so that their kids don't

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Speaker 13: miss out on the class trip or the team sport

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Speaker 13: that they love so much. Patients who are holding off

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Speaker 13: on treatment.

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Speaker 10: Because because it was too far or too expensive.

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Speaker 13: Healthcare providers who worry that political games in Washington will

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Speaker 13: prevent them from giving their patients medically necessary care. Women

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Speaker 13: all across Maryland who fear that politicians will take away

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Speaker 13: our right, our fundamental right to make our own health

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Speaker 13: care decisions.

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Speaker 10: These are the stakes of this.

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Speaker 13: Election, and it's why our work must start tonight.

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Speaker 1: I thought that piece was very good, But Andrew, I

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Speaker 1: think the points you were making, and that is part

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Speaker 1: of my challenge, right. I think sometimes you go so

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Speaker 1: far to the other side to try to appeal to

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Speaker 1: a base who's already left you. But you and Angela

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Speaker 1: both touched on something that I think is so crucial

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Speaker 1: to why we haven't seen as many black women in

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Speaker 1: the Senate, and that is the donor class. It is

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Speaker 1: largely white and male and who they consider to be

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Speaker 1: a viable candidate, and it is the party who the

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Speaker 1: party chooses to support their institutos from the D TRIP,

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Speaker 1: the d SEC, and the D TRIP, the Democratic Senatorial

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Speaker 1: Campaign Committee. Angelia will correct me if I get these wrong.

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Speaker 1: The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, So these entities and the

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Speaker 1: DNC on who they consider viable candidates can be I

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Speaker 1: think a challenge. Incumbency is an issue. I was really

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Speaker 1: rooting for val Demings in Florida. She was running against,

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Speaker 1: you know, an incumbent and Senator Marco Rubio. That's a challenge.

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Speaker 1: So it's a lack of support, a lack of funds.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how we disrupt that, but you see,

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Speaker 1: when we do, dare to disrupt it. You heard Angela

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Speaker 1: also books in her victory speaks say stories like mine

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Speaker 1: don't often make it to the United States Senate. And

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Speaker 1: I think it's a part doing whatever you can. If

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Speaker 1: you shoot, get out there and run for something. And

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Speaker 1: if you can't run, donate something. If you can't donate,

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Speaker 1: go knock on doors for something. But we can shape

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Speaker 1: this democracy when we have the courage to do so.

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Speaker 3: Tiffany, I love that point and the other thing that

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Speaker 3: I love about her speeches. She said, I've got three

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Speaker 3: people that I must think before I go any further,

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Speaker 3: and that is Lotti, Dottie and everybody.

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Speaker 6: I thought that was a relatable, you know.

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Speaker 3: Piece and remarks The reason why I wanted the clip

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Speaker 3: that we played of the comments she made is that

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Speaker 3: you can insert any Democratic candidate running for a statewide

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Speaker 3: US Senate seat on the Democratic side in any state

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Speaker 3: and you're pretty much going to hear that same order.

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Speaker 3: Delivery may be different. They may insert their own sort

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Speaker 3: of stories, but the playbook is going to look the same.

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Speaker 3: And what I would caution on that because I think

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Speaker 3: similar things happened for Valdemings in Florida, and that loss

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Speaker 3: was nearly nineteen points or twenty points, twenty one points,

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Speaker 3: maybe it was. And the same electric that you know,

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Speaker 3: the difference between me and my opponent, and that same

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Speaker 3: electric was point, you know, zero three, So there was

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Speaker 3: a huge slide there. And I think part of that

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Speaker 3: is is that, Yeah, the DSCC may have a playbook, y'all,

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Speaker 3: but when you're running in your state, be in your state,

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Speaker 3: adopt the issues of your state, talk about what's happening

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Speaker 3: in your state because the federal stuff. The playbook may

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Speaker 3: work some places, but for us, particularly candidates of color

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Speaker 3: who are not typical to many of these ballots at

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Speaker 3: statewide races, we have to do it differently. We don't

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Speaker 3: get afforded the luxury of the pull and play model

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Speaker 3: for running these races. We have to show up one

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Speaker 3: as ourselves believable, and two we have to run our

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Speaker 3: races like our heart sind you nerve will dictate, not

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Speaker 3: like some playbook, because I think it's been a failing

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Speaker 3: strategy for us.

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Speaker 14: Even when I decided to run for Congress, I had

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Speaker 14: never run for anything in my life. I had just

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Speaker 14: been widowed the year before I decided to run, and

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Speaker 14: I was over fifty, all of those things that people say, oh,

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Speaker 14: you can't do it. And I think that this moment,

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Speaker 14: the fact that I'm running, the fact that there are

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Speaker 14: other black women who are running, the fact that you know,

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Speaker 14: we have historic candidates that are stepping up at all levels,

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Speaker 14: not just in the Senate. Really, I hope inspires others

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Speaker 14: to just do their part, whatever that is, whether it's

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Speaker 14: running or running a campaign or contributing. My best friend

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Speaker 14: she said, I don't have money to give you, but

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Speaker 14: I could make you patsa spaghetti and beef stew.

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Speaker 4: And that's what she did for me.

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Speaker 14: So I think this moment is a special one to

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Speaker 14: me personally. You know, it is not lost on me

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Speaker 14: that there are currently no black women in the Senate,

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Speaker 14: and so to be able to represent is important and

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Speaker 14: also and probably more equally is important to me. It's

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Speaker 14: representing my state, you know, that is important to me

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Speaker 14: as well. So I don't people ask like, what does

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Speaker 14: it feel like to make history? And I think for

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Speaker 14: many of us, we're not thinking about making history. We're

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Speaker 14: thinking about doing the work.

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Speaker 7: Didn't have a choice, so she's making history hopefully, but

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Speaker 7: also she knows that she doesn't have a choice.

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Speaker 6: She always is going to serve.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to say two masters, but two different entities,

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Speaker 7: and sometimes those are competing interest being an elected official

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Speaker 7: and a fully black body, and also having to represent

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Speaker 7: the interests of your constituents that may or may not

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Speaker 7: look like the community you come from. So I think

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Speaker 7: it's always a profound conundrum that our folks find theirselves

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Speaker 7: in themselves in. And we also are stuck with campaign

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Speaker 7: entities like the DSc that don't recognize it, that don't

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Speaker 7: hire consultants that look for look towards doing things that

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Speaker 7: are represent our best interests.

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Speaker 6: Andrew, you hit the nail on the head.

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Speaker 7: You were able to go rogue for so long because

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Speaker 7: you were not the person they picked. And by the

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Speaker 7: time they picked you, you had already built your campaign

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Speaker 7: on authenticity and who you actually are. And I just

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Speaker 7: hope that more candidates are able to carve out that

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Speaker 7: courageous lane because we will not see a bench that

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Speaker 7: continues to grow without.

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Speaker 4: That and having people.

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Speaker 1: I also think Angela, you being on the trail with Andrew,

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Speaker 1: like she talked about her best friend, was like, I

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Speaker 1: kind of have money, but I can make you spaghetti.

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Speaker 1: I think you're having to tribe around you to do

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00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: things like that Angela and that person so many times. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and just real people around you aren't yes people who

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Speaker 1: are gonna tell you the real So all those things matter. Andrew,

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Speaker 1: I have a.

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Speaker 4: Question for you.

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Speaker 3: I think I know where you're going.

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Speaker 4: W t S is going on at FAM.

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Speaker 1: You don't answer, We're gonna take a break. But on

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Speaker 1: the other side, I need to know.

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Speaker 6: No, I love y'all, I'm nervous. I'm trying for y'all.

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Speaker 1: We love you, FAM. You, We're rooting for y'all. All right,

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Speaker 1: don't go anywhere, don't go anywhere you go. You gotta

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Speaker 1: pay some bills. But the other side, FAM.

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Speaker 12: You.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, welcome, welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome.

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Speaker 3: On behalf of the batter Send I think batter Send

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Speaker 3: Family Trust.

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Speaker 14: We want to present it to university with a special

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Speaker 14: gift save you about.

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Speaker 6: Two hundred and thirty seven million dollars.

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Speaker 4: Guys, all right, we got to talk about sham you.

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Speaker 1: That was the voice of a previously unknown, mysterious thirty

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Speaker 1: year old Texas hemp farmer who gifted gifted in quotes

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Speaker 1: Florida A and M universe grifts hundred and thirty ooh, who

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Speaker 1: grifted Thank you, angel who griffed two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: seven million dollars.

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Speaker 4: But less than one week.

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Speaker 1: That joyous applause that you heard it turned into skepticism

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Speaker 1: and questions abound about who exactly is this guy, does

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Speaker 1: he actually have this money, and whether the university sufficiently

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Speaker 1: vetted the gift. Now fam you has paused the deal

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Speaker 1: while it further assesses the donation's value from a company

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Speaker 1: which really appears to have limited an amateurist online presence

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Speaker 1: zero for an allegedly highly successful business zero. As Angela says,

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Speaker 1: there's also a number or there's also significant reporting from

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Speaker 1: a number of outlets about Garami. I believe it's how

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Speaker 1: you pronounce his name, who previously backed out of a

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Speaker 1: ninety five million dollar pledge to Coastal Carolina University. For

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Speaker 1: more on this, we turned to our president, expert and

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Speaker 1: senior family analyt. I just said one thing for you,

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Speaker 1: says something remarkably intelligent.

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Speaker 3: Please, I.

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Speaker 6: Just have one flag.

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Speaker 7: If you go back to the picture of this man

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Speaker 7: at the commencement speech, anybody that was wearing a COVID

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Speaker 7: pandemic related mask from the dollar tree, and the mask

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Speaker 7: is down here. It's not even on your nose, it's

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Speaker 7: just down here a mask. Follow if you can't afford

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Speaker 7: to buy a new mask, Sir, you ain't got turned

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Speaker 7: in thirty seven million dollars to give us?

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Speaker 4: Like what are we doing?

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Speaker 3: What are we even talking about?

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Speaker 6: Nobody vetted, Nobody added how he's looking at the graduation.

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Speaker 4: Like are well these tell us? Because you're on the

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Speaker 4: border and you have breaking news? I think you there is.

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Speaker 3: Andrew, Listen, I'm hurt. I'm really hurt by this. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I love I love I love my institution, and I

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Speaker 3: love HBCUs And the announcement of a gift of that

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Speaker 3: size two hundred and thirty seven million which by the way,

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Speaker 3: is double fam USE current endowment and famuse current endowment

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Speaker 3: is probably double that of the majority of HBCUs in

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Speaker 3: the country, with exceptions that we would all be able

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Speaker 3: to click off, you know, real quick, those are the

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Speaker 3: ones that always get you know, uh, donations of that size.

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Speaker 3: But just to put it in perspective, and I don't

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Speaker 3: I don't, I don't say this defensively, but to say that,

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Speaker 3: oftentimes HBCUs are not the benefactors of these size individual gifts. Typically.

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Speaker 3: You know, if if you're at an HBCU, you're getting

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Speaker 3: these kinds of gifts and not of that size, by

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Speaker 3: the way, But if they do come, they're coming from

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Speaker 3: the government or they're coming from some corporate entity. This this, this,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Angela, you must have been. You must have

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Speaker 3: been in my text messages because everybody, first of all,

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Speaker 3: I will say, the moment this thing came across the feed,

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Speaker 3: rattlers across the nation took to the internet being like,

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Speaker 3: he ain't my classmate, who all know him? I mean,

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Speaker 3: it was basically like you might fake, you might fake

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Speaker 3: the handshake of the frat, but soon enough is about

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Speaker 3: to catch up with you because somebody has to know you, right,

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Speaker 3: So nobody knows the guy as they start, you know,

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Speaker 3: making the rounds, and in short order people start to

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Speaker 3: pop up what is readily available out there about the guy,

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Speaker 3: which is that he's got no footprint whatsoever. The woman

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Speaker 3: he's named as the co president of his company, you know,

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Speaker 3: goes out and does an interview says, I've never even

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Speaker 3: worked for that company he four years prior to this point.

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Speaker 3: This money supposedly comes from his business and a family trust,

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Speaker 3: an inheritance, except a go fund Me account was set

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Speaker 3: up for his mother's health illness and for his brother's funeral,

878
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 3: a go fund Me account that was publicly out there

879
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: on the web for anybody to see. So the lack

880
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: of vetting on this has flamoxed the board of trustees.

881
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 4: Question.

882
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, the board of trustees, the family foundation, all of

883
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: which you learned of this gift on the day of

884
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 3: the announcement being made insane And that is because he

885
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 3: forced the university leadership into a NDA, which I didn't

886
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 3: even know were legal for public institutions in the state

887
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: of Florida. But however, the university agreed to an NDA

888
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: and then the final executing agreement y'all that was made

889
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 3: public didn't even have the man's signature on this signature line.

890
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 3: It is up to But I will tell you because

891
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: as we are recording, as we are taping, as we're

892
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: speaking with each other. Right now, the Family Board of

893
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 3: Trustees is meeting for the first time since the announcements

894
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 3: of this gift and their immediate skepticism about its truth.

895
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 3: And a few moments ago I received a text stating

896
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 3: that the vice president and the executive director over the

897
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 3: Fam You Foundation, which is the recipient organization, the direct

898
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 3: support organization of Fam You, the institution who would be

899
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 3: the recipient of this two hundred and thirty seven million,

900
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: the executive director has stepped down from that role. She is,

901
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 3: as I know her, of very talented woman. She's also

902
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 3: the dean of School of Business and Industry and accomplished

903
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 3: graduates herself. Say that again she's going to maintain that position,

904
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: but she will leave the Fam You Foundation again, which

905
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: was the sort of negotiating organization here. And just so

906
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 3: that anybody is confused, how do we get to this

907
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 3: number two hundred and thirty seven million? What the god

908
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 3: did this holster did? Was said, he transferred what he

909
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: valued as two hundred and thirty seven million and stock

910
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 3: of his non publicly traded company. And because it is

911
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 3: non publicly traded, it actually has no value. You can't

912
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: actually apply value other than the value that he says

913
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 3: it has. So according to experts, the value could be

914
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: anywhere from zero to three hundred million.

915
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 7: And I just don't understand how this is not criminal?

916
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 7: How is this not criminal?

917
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 6: Do you guys.

918
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 4: Know it.

919
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 7: Gets criminal. It's it's massive for you. So I'm just

920
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 7: trying to understand what we're doing here, because you know

921
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 7: where we're out here on the front lines of a

922
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 7: whole case around fraud, that where there's a whole public battle.

923
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 7: But this is what's going on anyway. The one thing

924
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 7: that I wanted.

925
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 6: To flag here is the largest.

926
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 7: Gift to an HBCU in history before this gift of

927
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 7: dust was one hundred million dollars to Spellman from Rohnda

928
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,479
Speaker 7: Striker and William Johnston earlier this year.

929
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 6: One hundred million dollars. That's the largest gift in history.

930
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 7: So he more than doubled it in dust and embarrassed

931
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 7: this not only the like sole a moment at the

932
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 7: commencement for the twenty four graduates.

933
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 6: No, of course he did, but it doesn't matter.

934
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 7: Like somebody, there should be a robust very you know,

935
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 7: a detailed background check, looking at his assets, verifying where

936
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 7: the actual money is in the bank before you do

937
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 7: anything like that. I sit on a board of an HBCU.

938
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 7: I sit on the Wilberforce board. This would not happen

939
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 7: at Wilberforce. There are too many people who are business

940
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 7: professionals who would be like, no, no, no, before we

941
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 7: sign an NBA, these are the things that we have

942
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 7: to verify. So it's just mind blowing to me that

943
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 7: he got this far with his little cheap ass dollar

944
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 7: tree mask on at the graduation, making a mockery of

945
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 7: one of our best and brider institutions.

946
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 6: It is insanity.

947
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: Deverron Gibbons, he's a vice president and a family board

948
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: of trustees and Angela. It sounds like he feels like

949
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: you and I do. Just want to say because he

950
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: has questions too, so you know, the questions to to blame.

951
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: But let's just take a listen to hear what mister

952
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: Gibbons had to say.

953
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 15: I would ask, you know, what is the valuation, who

954
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 15: did the valuation? What was to deep dive in background

955
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 15: on Matterson Farms and or the donor. What obligations does

956
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 15: the university have?

957
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: So Angela, all the questions that you say should have

958
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: been asked. At least there is somebody out there saying

959
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: these who agrees with you and has a fiducial responsibility

960
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: to the university.

961
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 3: And Trustee Gibbons is on the fam YOU Board of Trustees.

962
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 3: Y'all should have heard the FAMU Foundation's board meeting which

963
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 3: was which was intense and at that level you had

964
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 3: finance experts on famu's board foundation board who were asking

965
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: questions that I had. I wouldn't know where to begin

966
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 3: or in and I said on fam USE Board of Trustees,

967
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 3: but I have to tell you the university, the university

968
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 3: committed a huge fail for fam you to be the

969
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 3: largest single campus HBCU in the United States, for us

970
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 3: to produce more baccul laureate, masterial, and doctoral degree holders

971
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 3: of any institution in the country, to have been listed

972
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 3: as the number one college, beating out Harvard University now

973
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 3: twice with our recruitment of national merit scholars, producing more

974
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 3: of those graduates than any other institution at one time.

975
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 3: It is it's extremely embarrassing, Yes, but it is also

976
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 3: deeply hurtful. And so while I definitely have to take

977
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 3: fam use leadership to task, and I'll do that another

978
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 3: way on another day, I also want to take to

979
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 3: task this what I think has to be undiagnosed or

980
00:49:55,040 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 3: maybe diagnosed narcissist and maybe even worse fraud fraudster who

981
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 3: who made a habit prior to us It was Coastal

982
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 3: Carolina University where he made a uh some tens of

983
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 3: million dollars game a commitment there. So but but folks

984
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 3: out there who are shysters like this, like where do

985
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 3: you get off? What? What satisfaction do you get being

986
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 3: being demonstrated to the whole world as a fraudster and

987
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 3: then taking a distinguished institution and dragging it through the mud.

988
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 3: And not because we didn't go unwillingly, because there was

989
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: a lot of willing walking that took place before the dragging.

990
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 3: It just it's very upsetting and given the needs of

991
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 3: our HBCUs around the country, not just fam but across

992
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 3: the board, this is a devastating blow and I believe

993
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 3: that additional heads are going to have to roll here.

994
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 4: Yes, and well keep us posted.

995
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: Andrew because this is this is definitely and literally in

996
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: your backyard.

997
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 4: Just to yeah literally.

998
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: And you you know are you are in FAMU and

999
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: of fam you in every way somebody can be. As

1000
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: I close this out, I do just want to point

1001
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,439
Speaker 1: out that big philanthropy support of HBCUs declined from two

1002
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: thousand and two to twenty nineteen. This is from an

1003
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: organization called Candidate, who published philanthropy and HBCUs foundation funding

1004
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: to HBCUs. Comparatively, Ivy League schools received a combine five

1005
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: point five billion dollars in philanthropic dollars from twenty fifteen

1006
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: to twenty nineteen, compared with HBCUs three hundred and three million.

1007
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 3: And you know, we're under assault on both sides, right.

1008
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 3: We talked about TSU earlier, So the state sponsor schools

1009
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 3: are trying to shutter them, and then you've got the

1010
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 3: private donations being down at these institutions. Don't let this

1011
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 3: serve as a reflection of the great work that is

1012
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 3: happening to produce these graduates on these HBCU campuses. This

1013
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 3: was a failure at a staff level and a leadership level,

1014
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 3: and those folks have to be accountable to that. But

1015
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: make no mistake, y'all. If you're making a choice around

1016
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 3: attending in HBCU, you make that choice based off of

1017
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 3: the merits of the programs. It's its reputation of its

1018
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 3: graduates and its degrees and not including of some individuals.

1019
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're coming up on the mountain, but you've produced

1020
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: the largest black professionals and fields of medicine, law, engineering,

1021
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: and war. So HBC you strong, HPC pride. All right,

1022
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: we got to take a quick break, but I got

1023
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: a question for Angel, and come back, Angel. I want

1024
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: to know what is the latest with Marilyn Moseby. You've

1025
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: been all over her situation and we want to make

1026
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: sure that we're doing everything we can and want to

1027
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: be supportive. So I want to get the latest on

1028
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: that and what you've all been waiting for. My Hot Sports.

1029
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 3: Tape, the Hot Sports bills.

1030
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 4: We'll see you on the other side of this.

1031
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 8: Is a place where basketball mount beautiful pass.

1032
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 4: So if you catch it, if.

1033
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 9: You love the.

1034
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 3: Basketball, accoudible, welcome to the w.

1035
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: All right, Welcome back, everybody. I got a question. Have

1036
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: you all been watching the games? I think, okay, let me.

1037
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 4: Yes, I have.

1038
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: I've been super into it, so on Tuesday night the

1039
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: w n B A I watched the WNBA game and

1040
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 1: My Knicks because I've designed there my team. My Knicks

1041
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: was facing off with the Pacers, and I was torn

1042
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: because these games are playing at the same time and

1043
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: I have not been this torn since they put a

1044
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: different world up against flipping back and forth trying to

1045
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: keep up. And I gotta say, I feel like a

1046
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: trader because I was watching more of the Knicks game

1047
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: just because I had been following them. But I did

1048
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: watch Caitlin Clark ball on that court.

1049
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 4: I'm just into it.

1050
00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 6: I'm she got Molly wopped sis.

1051
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 4: I know they lost, but I still with her first television.

1052
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm glad that you pointed that out because

1053
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: this is well, Angela's make a good point about her

1054
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: getting Molly wopps because because Angela's looking at the score, well,

1055
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: her assessment of the mollywopification I think is something worth

1056
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: talking about. But I think Angela's point is not all

1057
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 1: about Caitlin Clark. There are other people, and head coach

1058
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: of the Minnesota Link, Cheryl Reef, has something to say

1059
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 1: about that. I'm sorry, Angela, we're playing the head coach

1060
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: of the links. They played the Seattle Storm, and Angela's

1061
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: gonna tell us why. She She might have a guess

1062
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: she would this sound bite, but let's hear from Cheryl Reeve.

1063
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 16: The growth is happening so fast, it's so accelerated. And

1064
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 16: I've been saying this in our own organization that business

1065
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 16: as usual isn't gonna work anymore. You're gonna get left behind. Certainly,

1066
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 16: Caitlin's first game, you know, they were going to value

1067
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 16: I'm all for that.

1068
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 3: I get it.

1069
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 16: You know, people want to see that, but they also

1070
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,240
Speaker 16: want to see you know, it's not just about Caitlin,

1071
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 16: you know, and it isn't Caitlyn's fault in any way.

1072
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 16: It's more, you know, the recognition that there's general excitement

1073
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 16: about the w m A in ways that we haven't

1074
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 16: seen before, and so we have to capitalize, you know.

1075
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 6: To really ensure that this is a movement.

1076
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 16: We have to capitalize on those things.

1077
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: I thank you, right, Angela. I we missed each other.

1078
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: We were calling each other What were you doing Tuesday? While

1079
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 1: I was watching two basketball games? What were you doing?

1080
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 7: I was at the Seattle Storm season opener. One of

1081
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 7: the three of us kept our promise to go to

1082
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 7: a season opener of the w n b A and

1083
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 7: I represented on behalf of all of you because that's

1084
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 7: what family does, and so did Mom and popa Rye.

1085
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 7: So we sat almost court side. Courtside was actually sewed

1086
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 7: out in the town.

1087
00:55:58,640 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 6: Which is great.

1088
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 7: But we were a couple of rows back and we

1089
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 7: were very much so enjoying a very competitive game. And

1090
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 7: then there was a breakout moment in the fourth quarter

1091
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 7: with the Lynx and Seattle lost by thirteen points, but

1092
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 7: I am elated to welcome anneka a Gooma, kay and Skyler.

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Speaker 6: Why can't I think of Skyler's last name right now? Skyler?

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Speaker 7: Uh, I know better than this. I know Skyler. Like anyway,

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00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 7: this is bad. Let me look at Skyler, Digg and Smith.

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00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 7: I was trying to say, William so bad.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know why.

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00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: Skyler killed it. Anecca killed it and they this was

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Speaker 1: like there.

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Speaker 7: This is their first season with the Storm and just

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00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 7: to watch them melding with their new team is great.

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00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 7: Definitely miss Stewie and all of that good stuff. And

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Speaker 7: so Sue Bird is now part of the ownership group.

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00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,479
Speaker 7: She got a standard ovation which was amazing. But yeah,

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Speaker 7: it's it's it's I think it's gonna be a great season,

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Speaker 7: and and watching the melt was good. My dad is

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00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 7: one of the people who's like, at two minutes left,

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00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 7: if your team is getting molly wipped, it's like, we

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00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 7: gotta go, let's go, let's speak the crowd. So I

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00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 7: was like, he's like, we got here.

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Speaker 1: So you're a Storm fan in the w n B A,

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00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: do you have a team on the NBA side?

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00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 6: You know, I had a team.

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00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 7: They were called the Seattle SuperSonics, and Howard sold them

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00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,959
Speaker 7: to Oklahoma City Thunder or Oklahoma City and they became

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00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 7: Oklahoma City Thunder to everybody else. To me, they're the

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00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 7: Oklahoma City thunder cat because I'm still mad years later.

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00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 7: But yeah, I think I've always been a Lakers fan.

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00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 7: I was a Laker girl for Halloween in the fifth grade.

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Speaker 7: You know, we can we can claim that. And then

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Speaker 7: I just mostly like to see a good game, Tiff,

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Speaker 7: you know, like we advt What I like.

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Speaker 1: I know that is I like to see a competitive game.

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Speaker 1: Skylar charge it to my head and not my heart. Yeah,

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00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: Angela out here fighting for causes. So she and managed

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Speaker 1: to go to the game.

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Speaker 3: So we love I do hope that we don't run

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Speaker 3: away from standout players in the w NBA out of

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Speaker 3: out of a fidelity to you know, wanting to say,

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00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 3: you know, everybody contributes, everybody makes this thing work, and

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00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 3: that kind of thing. You know, we didn't do that

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00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 3: a lot with with with Magic and with Jordan. You know,

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00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 3: they they were what they were. People appreciated what the

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00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 3: what the supporting casts did in order to make those

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00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 3: teams as great as they were. But you know, sometimes

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00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 3: it takes that kind of individual to then make the attraction,

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00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 3: make the game, you know, more attractive, and then people

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00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 3: start to have other kinds of favorites. But if you

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00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 3: can get eyes on the game based off of the

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00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 3: celebrity of one or two or three, I say do

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Speaker 3: that and then let the teams work speak for itself.

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Speaker 10: Let's let well, the.

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Speaker 1: Same thing happened in the NBA. The w NBA last

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00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: year thirty six million total unique viewers. That was their

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00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: hot and that wasn't twenty twenty three. It was the

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00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: highest figure since two thousand and eight. It was a

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00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: twenty seven percent increase. They also brought in more than

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00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars in revenue as a WNBA with

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00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: a huge increase in fans. Now the NBA, by contrast,

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00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: is bringing in one point six million viewers across networks.

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00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: But it wasn't always like that. The NBA's had a

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00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: fifty year head start, and there was a time where

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00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: people weren't watching. And I can tell you I know

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00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: that the Lakers were instrumental in increasing NBA viewership. And

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00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: I know this because it was well documented in HBO's

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00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: Winning Time, starring a very impressive ensemble cast. So I

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00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 1: know all about the showtime, Lakers and very beach.

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Speaker 4: They don't like that, they do not. I don't know, Angela.

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00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 4: One day, this might be a mini pod.

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Speaker 1: I want you to tell me why everybody had a

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00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: problem with HBO's Winning Time, because I thought it was great.

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Speaker 1: And I just want to say this real quick in

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00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,479
Speaker 1: case y'all know something about it. Remember we were talking

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00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: about selling the tv LI licensing deals. Well, the Ringer

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01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: podcast or Bill Simmons, he claims that it's already done

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01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 1: and he thinks that NBC is getting it. So I'm

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01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: just sharing that here for the licensing deals because I'm

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01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: I'm all into all aspects of these sporting.

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Speaker 3: Games starting to impress me girl.

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01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I worked for.

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Speaker 1: And when football season starts, we'll have a little debrief

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Speaker 1: and then we'll figure out who my team is there.

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01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: But I'm figure out, guys. I love talking about this

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01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: topic with you, guys. I'm very excited and shout out

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Speaker 1: to the devil.

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Speaker 3: I will tell you r J in my household thought

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Speaker 3: you were an expert until she heard us joke and

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01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 3: she was like, you mean to tell me She not?

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01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 3: I said, she is an expert.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I am an expert, and thank you r J

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Speaker 1: for recognizing.

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01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 7: My especially on the media side, like the news that

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01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 7: great when you talk about I cannot think of Skyler's

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01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 7: Skyler digg and Smith.

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Speaker 1: It will never happen against his. I'm sorry, Skyler digg

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Speaker 1: and Smith. I'm gonna remember your name from now. I'm happy, though, Angeline,

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01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: all seriousness that you got to take your parents at

1188
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: the Seattle Storm game. I feel like you've been working

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01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: really hard. You need a breather, which is going to

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Speaker 1: bring us to our next topic, because I do. I

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Speaker 1: want to know what's the latest with Marilyn Moseby, and

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01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: I want to know what you need from us and

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01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: what Maryland needs from us and how we can be

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Speaker 1: the most supportive.

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Speaker 7: You know, thank you number one. Are you guys regularly

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01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 7: are shouting me out? But this really was a platform

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01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 7: that created space for us to share Marylyn's story when

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01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 7: a lot of people weren't listening. There are so many

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Speaker 7: people out there that still believe because there was a

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01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 7: press release that went out from DJ or because there

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01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 7: were negative articles in the Baltimore Banner or the Baltimore Sun,

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01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 7: or on this you know this person's Twitter feed, that

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Speaker 7: it automatically means fact.

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Speaker 6: Andrew, I know you know firsthand.

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Speaker 3: I know it too well.

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Speaker 7: That that is not the case, and so I would

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Speaker 7: I would challenge you all first as this call to action,

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01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 7: our collective call to action, to please please interrogate the facts.

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01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 7: Do not take whatever headlines word for it. It does

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01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 7: not mean it's true. Marilyn Moseby is in and should

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01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 7: not be facing forty years in prison. She is scheduled

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Speaker 7: to be sentenced on May twenty third. The prosecution has

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01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 7: requested that she served twenty months.

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Speaker 6: Imagine wasting millions.

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Speaker 7: Of dollars of taxpayer resources to go back and not

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01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 7: even ask for two years in prison. Not that we

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01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 7: want her to serve any time in prison. But imagine

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01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 7: the millions of dollars your money that was wasted over

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01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 7: her money that she needs to acquire property. Her money,

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Speaker 7: her retirement money, which that she contributed to every.

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Speaker 3: Other her salary, her salary stuff.

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Speaker 6: It's her retirement account.

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Speaker 3: Her check is salary that she defers. That's the point

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Speaker 3: I was going to.

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Speaker 6: But it was pulled out of her check every time.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely her money.

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Speaker 7: But I'm saying for some people deferred as hard. It's

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Speaker 7: her retirement account. Some people have four oh one ks.

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Speaker 7: Some people call them deferred compensation plans. On the hill

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Speaker 7: is the thrift savings plan, whatever you call it. It's

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01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 7: her money that was pulled out of her check every

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Speaker 7: couple of weeks for eight years, and she didn't withdraw

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Speaker 7: the full amount.

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Speaker 6: Here's where we are now.

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Speaker 7: Marilyn Moseby has filed her pardon application with the United

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Speaker 7: States Department of Justice pardon attorney.

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Speaker 6: Her name is Liz Oyer.

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Speaker 7: Liz has the responsibility of reviewing that pardon application and

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01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 7: submitting her recommendation to the President. Make your request known

1240
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 7: to the White House. Let them know how you feel

1241
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 7: about pardoning Marilyn Moseby. Know that a historic almost sixty

1242
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 7: lawyers signed on to Marilyn Moseby's pardon application. That never happens.

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01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 7: It's normally one person is maybe a couple sixty almost

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01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 7: sixty lawyers including Barry Sheck, Ben Crump, Bacari, sellers, so

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Speaker 7: many that sign. Barbara Arnwine like legend in yeah in

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01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 7: the legal field signed onto this. So Sean Chapman, Holly,

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Speaker 7: I can keep naming people, but thank God for all

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Speaker 7: of you, the Mario, so many of y'all, and of

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01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 7: course Jeff Trevillion was the lead attorney on the part app.

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Speaker 6: I just want you all to apply pressure.

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01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 7: If you can show up in Green Belt, Maryland next

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01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 7: week at ten thirty am Eastern.

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Speaker 6: Show up.

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01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 7: If you haven't shared the petition with your friends and

1255
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 7: family yet, send it. If you want to write a letter,

1256
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 7: if you want to send an email to the White

1257
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 7: House saying what is taking y'all so long?

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01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 6: Do it?

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01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 7: Just keep interrogating what happened? Look up Leo Wise, Look

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01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 7: up Larry Hogan. We talked about Angela also Brooks earlier

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01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 7: in this show. Larry Hogan will be her opponent. This

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01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 7: man single handedly tried to destroy Marilyn Moseby's legacy. He

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01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 7: tried to take away the funding from her prosecutorial office.

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01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 7: This man should not see another day in office in

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01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 7: any way, shape or form in Maryland. Look at all

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01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 7: of these players, you will see that these are a

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01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 7: bunch of people that were out to sit make an

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01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 7: example out of a progressive black woman prosecutor. And she

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01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 7: is not the only one. There are other folks coming forward.

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Speaker 7: You will hear about them very soon. Justice from Marilynmosby

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01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 7: dot com. To sign the petition and please interrogate these facts. Y'all,

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01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 7: do not take a headline's word for it. Even if

1273
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 7: you don't, just listen to me, ask me questions, challenge

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01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 7: what we are saying about this. But I promise you

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01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 7: this is a grave injustice and we must stand up

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01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 7: and be her.

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Speaker 3: That's real.

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Speaker 1: You know, we did Don Lemon's shows and the way

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01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: that you laid it out. Thanks shout out to Don

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01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: Lemon and thank you Don support Don so, thank you

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01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: Don for having us. But the way that you laid

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01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: it out on Don show where you talked about like

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01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: this is the confluence of three powerful white men, Donald Trump,

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01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: Larry Hogan and Leo Wise, who are targeting a strong,

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01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: fierce black woman who was trying to disrupt the status

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01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: quo in the very unforgiving criminal justice system that disproportionately

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01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: targets us. So this boomerang that's happening, I think, you know,

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01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: when we all remember that moment in American history, you

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01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: cannot tell the story of America the past twenty years

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01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: without telling the story of Marilyn Moseby and when she

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01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 1: stood on that line and said, our time is now.

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01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: I just feel like we can't abandon cord in this moment.

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01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 1: So people, yes, and so all the people who keep

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01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 1: it's more than just liking a post, sharing about like hashtag.

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01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: Activism has to go further. So for the people who

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01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: it frustrates me, and I appreciate y'all support. But for

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01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: the people who are asking, well, how do you sign

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01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: a petition?

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01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 4: Where is it? Google works wonders.

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01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: You can google Marylynd Mosey petition, You can google Marilyn Moseby.

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01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: Angela just gave the sight justice for Marilyn Moseby. Please

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01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: do as much as you can. If everybody does a little,

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01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 1: nobody has to do a lot. Call the White House,

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01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: call your representative, whatever you can make noise, make this heard.

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Speaker 1: May twenty thirds show up like. These are easy things

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Speaker 1: if you can physically be there, great if you can't.

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Speaker 1: The Internet works, wonders, Google works, wonders. Make your voice,

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Speaker 1: not share it in your group chats. Do do better

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Speaker 1: than the best, that you can do, more than you

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Speaker 1: thought you could do. And imagine if it for you

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Speaker 1: in this situation, would you like to be right? And

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Speaker 1: there is no victim here? That's the important things which

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Speaker 1: Marilyn is exactly.

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Speaker 3: She is the vica because this woman had the audacity

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Speaker 3: to make true, to make real that no person, no man, woman, child,

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Speaker 3: or otherwise is above the law. That was it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: she challenged the system that not in words, but in

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Speaker 3: practice reserved space for some people to be above the law,

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Speaker 3: especially if you had a badge. And she said, no

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Speaker 3: person is And they said, oh you is that right?

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Speaker 3: Well let's see what we can do with you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that can serve as our collective call

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Speaker 1: to action. UH for the three of us Angela, we

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Speaker 1: continue to thank.

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Speaker 4: You for your work for all God said.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't even you know a lot of people would know

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Speaker 1: about this case were it not for you. So we

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Speaker 1: just want to thank you and honor you for that.

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Speaker 7: Even the petition is by Native Lampard and I just

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Speaker 7: want you all to know you don't have an excuse

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Speaker 7: to be silent, because even my stomach is hollering throughout

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Speaker 7: all this podcast.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you all have heard it the

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Speaker 6: entire time. It's like barking.

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Speaker 10: I hear you.

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Speaker 4: I'm starving, I'm.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what.

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Speaker 6: Sorry.

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Speaker 1: If you got.

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Speaker 3: A note, yes, happy birthday to my son Davis.

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Speaker 7: He turns seven by seven.

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Speaker 3: That's our James birthday was last week and this upcoming Sunday,

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Speaker 3: Jay will graduate with their NBA from America University, American Washington.

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Speaker 3: Jesus have Mercy, George, George and my twins will turn

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Speaker 3: ten double digits on Sunday, So we got to.

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Speaker 6: That is a vasy.

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Speaker 4: Nephews and cocktails.

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Speaker 1: It'll be birthday cocktails, congratulation cocktails.

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Speaker 6: I love you, Jay, Jay, you are a rock. We

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Speaker 6: love you.

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Speaker 7: You're a rock and a rock star. And to all

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Speaker 7: the babies, I love these babies, Caroline. Every great men

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Speaker 7: call me if they try to give you any more

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Speaker 7: allergy medicine never again.

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Speaker 4: On my watch.

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Speaker 3: You're a worst wonders don't listen.

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Speaker 6: He's not drugging his kids, y'all. Just he the baby

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Speaker 6: had an allergic I didn't like.

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Speaker 4: Only Andrew and Angeline know that I don't want her.

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Speaker 6: I'm benadryl.

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Speaker 4: Before we welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Before we end the show, I do want to remind

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Speaker 1: everyone to leave us a review and subscribe to Native lampod.

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Speaker 1: Share the platform. If you like what we do here,

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Speaker 1: we take you in all forms. New episodes drop every Thursday.

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Speaker 1: You can follow us on social media. We are Tiffany Cross,

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Speaker 1: angela Ryan Andrew Gillum.

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Speaker 4: Welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 1: There are one hundred and seventy two days until.

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Speaker 4: Election days morning.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining the Natives attention of with the

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Speaker 2: info and all of the latest Rock Gillim and Cross

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Speaker 2: connected to the statements that.

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Speaker 4: You leave on our socials.

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Speaker 2: Thank you sincerely for the patients reason for your choices. Clear,

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Speaker 2: so grateful it took to execute roads. Thank you for serve,

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Speaker 2: defend and protect the truth even in past.

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Speaker 4: Well, welcome home to all of the natives.

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Speaker 3: We thank you.

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Speaker 6: Welcome y'all, Welcome.

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