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Speaker 1: dj Envy had to step out. But man, we have
Speaker 1: the author of one of the best books I read
Speaker 1: this year, Resumm men of Kim, author of My Grandmother's Hands,
Speaker 1: Racialized Trauma in The Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies.
Speaker 1: First of all, it is a pleasure to sit down
Speaker 1: and talk to you. How are you. I'm doing well, man,
Speaker 1: I'm doing well. Busy but well. Absolutely absolutely. Now tell
Speaker 1: folks what this book is about. So brother, the book
Speaker 1: is really about racialized trauma and how more often than not,
Speaker 1: when we think about racism and white body supremacy, we
Speaker 1: think about it from an intellectual place like you know, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, dates and times and stuff like that. But
Speaker 1: my whole work is really around how trauma lives in
Speaker 1: the body and gets passed down, and how it gets
Speaker 1: passed down through generations. What is of happening is that
Speaker 1: we don't just learn from our caregivers in terms of instruction,
Speaker 1: we also learn from what their bodies recoil from and
Speaker 1: lean into. Trauma in a person over time can look
Speaker 1: like personality. Trauma in a family over time can look
Speaker 1: like family traits. But trauma and a people can look
Speaker 1: like culture. And we and we missed those pieces. And
Speaker 1: so the whole book was about my journey, my own
Speaker 1: personal journey, you know in Afghanistan. Want to raise the Milwaukee,
Speaker 1: Wisconsin and my journey in terms of my people and
Speaker 1: my grandmother. Can you talk about what white body supremacy is? Yes,
Speaker 1: So when we say the word white supremacy, a lot
Speaker 1: of times what happens is that people move to the head.
Speaker 1: They start trying to say, well, I'm not racist, or
Speaker 1: I'm not this or I'm not that person. Did that
Speaker 1: I'm not the person? Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And so what
Speaker 1: ends up happening is is that we end up having
Speaker 1: an intellectual conversation and not how this stuff actually impacts
Speaker 1: the body. And so white body supremacy is my attempt
Speaker 1: to get us to begin to think about what shows
Speaker 1: up when we're having these types of interactions, What shows
Speaker 1: up when we see a black body being murdered on
Speaker 1: the streets, right, And that actually may not just be
Speaker 1: your own personal piece. It might be historical, it might
Speaker 1: be intergenerational, it might be persistent institutional, and then your
Speaker 1: own personal stuff gets combined with it. You know. It's
Speaker 1: God bought this book in my life at the right time,
Speaker 1: you know, Angela RAI kept telling me to get it.
Speaker 1: But it came in my life at a point where
Speaker 1: I started doing healing exercises. I started actually doing things
Speaker 1: that helped this this trauma move to my body. Explain
Speaker 1: why that's not necessary? So I so if you notice
Speaker 1: in the book, brother, I don't call him exercise, I
Speaker 1: call him practice it why it's because whenever we think
Speaker 1: about trauma, and specifically racialized trauma, we think about something
Speaker 1: we need to just purge. Right. But in an actuality, race,
Speaker 1: the concept of race has a four hundred to five
Speaker 1: hundred year old charge to it. So when we start
Speaker 1: to begin to deal with it, that charge can overwhelm us.
Speaker 1: And with your experience, and I've listened to you quite
Speaker 1: a bit, and so some of the experience when you
Speaker 1: have when you yourself have been traumatized, right, in addition
Speaker 1: to the historical trauma, that gets passed down in addition
Speaker 1: to the intergenerational trauma, you don't really know how to articulate,
Speaker 1: so the practices are designed to go slow. One of
Speaker 1: the things about the practices that if forces you to
Speaker 1: work with to learn discernment, Oh this is more resource,
Speaker 1: or this really scares me, or this is more constricted
Speaker 1: in my body when we're traumatized. That's all blended together.
Speaker 1: We don't know how to discern one one sensation from
Speaker 1: an image. You have to condition and temper your body
Speaker 1: to be able to withstand the trauma and the stuff
Speaker 1: that has happened, so you can metabolize it over time
Speaker 1: and not just be overwhelmed when it shows up. And
Speaker 1: then practices for white people as well, Oh hell yeah,
Speaker 1: what happens with white folks? Right? We live in a
Speaker 1: structure by which the white body deems and has deemed
Speaker 1: itself the supreme standard of humanness philosophically and structurally. It's
Speaker 1: the catstem that's it. So what ends up happening is
Speaker 1: that in that process, the acceptance of whiteness right made
Speaker 1: white people have to give up part of their humanity
Speaker 1: in order to be white. They had to You can't
Speaker 1: participate in brutalizing people right without disrupting part of your
Speaker 1: own humanity. And so the practices in the book are
Speaker 1: really designed to help white people begin to confront that
Speaker 1: thing that had the ways that they've been standardized as
Speaker 1: human and me and you've been standardized as deviant from human.
Speaker 1: They're normal, they're the normal, and we're deviant, right, and
Speaker 1: so it is standardized so they don't even feel like
Speaker 1: they need to even do nothing about it. That's why
Speaker 1: I have the practices in there for for white bodies. Okay,
Speaker 1: we got more with the great resume of Minician when
Speaker 1: we come back discussing his book My Grandmother's Hands, Racialized
Speaker 1: Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies
Speaker 1: on the Breakfast Club. Hey, I want to make sure
Speaker 1: to tell y'all to tune into the Gods on Its
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Speaker 1: of the Breakfast Club, the Breakfast Club. Yes, it's the
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Speaker 1: and God Angela Ye dj Envy is off today and
Speaker 1: we're talking to Resma men Kim. He's the author of
Speaker 1: My Grandmother's Hands, Racialized Trauma in the Pathway to Mending
Speaker 1: Our Hearts and Bodies. Now, can we talk about the
Speaker 1: title of the book, to my Grandmother's Hands and what
Speaker 1: that does represent as far as the work that you've
Speaker 1: been doing so soon. My grandmother was a small woman,
Speaker 1: but when we were young, like seven eight years old,
Speaker 1: we would go over there and stay with my grandmother.
Speaker 1: And my grandmother number one, she would be in the
Speaker 1: kitchen and she would hum. And when you notice in
Speaker 1: the book I talk about the hum and the legal nerves,
Speaker 1: it's a very important piece. One time I was rubbing
Speaker 1: the hands and I was comparing her hands to my hands,
Speaker 1: like my hands are very thin and angular. Grandmother had
Speaker 1: these thick digits, like thick, and then a thickness inside
Speaker 1: of her palm, and the thickness on the back of
Speaker 1: her palm, and so I was. I was rubbing, and
Speaker 1: I said, Grandma, why are your hands so fat? Why
Speaker 1: are your hands fat like that? And without missing the beach,
Speaker 1: she goes, oh, boy, that's from picking cot. I'm seven
Speaker 1: to eight right, and I'm like okay, And she must
Speaker 1: have heard the space divide. So she turned and this
Speaker 1: and their cadence picked up right. I knew I didn't
Speaker 1: know what it was, but I knew I needed to page.
Speaker 1: She goes, well, you ever seen the cotton plant? No? Man,
Speaker 1: She goes, complante got these birds. This is where she's talking.
Speaker 1: And I said okay, and she said, when you reach
Speaker 1: your hands in there, And at four years old, I
Speaker 1: started walking up and down on Rose where I was four.
Speaker 1: My daddy was a sharecropper, So when you reach your
Speaker 1: hands in that stuff, your hands bleed. And I did
Speaker 1: not remember that story again until I started reading the book.
Speaker 1: I started writing the book, that's amazing because then the
Speaker 1: calysis protect her hands bleeding, and then it just gets
Speaker 1: used to that's exactly right. And then I took that
Speaker 1: and said, whoa, that's how trauma works. You know. I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you about Sunday because me and my
Speaker 1: home girl dad was talking about this yesterday. It was
Speaker 1: a Instagram post somebody posted and they say, not everything
Speaker 1: is a trauma response. And they say, the point here
Speaker 1: is we can't just slap a label of trauma on
Speaker 1: the everything. We can't understand all behavior as trauma responses.
Speaker 1: We have to think more about the roles culture plays
Speaker 1: and creating and sustaining trauma responses. And trauma responses aren't
Speaker 1: necessarily all bad. Yeah, absolutely, Okay, So trauma is personal
Speaker 1: and particular me and you maybe homeboys, and something happens
Speaker 1: in front of us, right, A necessary component of trauma
Speaker 1: is stuck. Right, no matter what I do, is stuck.
Speaker 1: Something that stuck. That's a necessary component. Something back and
Speaker 1: happened to both of us at the same time, and
Speaker 1: you get stuck and I don't, Right, So when it
Speaker 1: comes to trauma, right, But but but there's a higher
Speaker 1: propensity to get stuck, right when the thing that happens
Speaker 1: happens to a man of people. Right, And I believe
Speaker 1: that you will more likely get stuck in trauma when
Speaker 1: children are involved. Right. What I would say is some
Speaker 1: people get stuck with that and some people don't. It
Speaker 1: does it? But it but but but I also don't
Speaker 1: want to take the culture off the hook, right and say, well,
Speaker 1: not everybody is traumatized, so it's not really a big deal.
Speaker 1: It is a huge deal because the trauma that we're
Speaker 1: talking about has compounded over time and has been decontextualized.
Speaker 1: So now we take it out on each other. Right,
Speaker 1: And so I have to say, well, you have to
Speaker 1: you have to do both. You have to keep the
Speaker 1: vertical and the horizontal when you're viewing this stuff around race.
Speaker 1: You have to keep both of them on the table.
Speaker 1: You know, you say that a healing racism begins with
Speaker 1: the body. Do you think that takes precedent over legislation. No, No,
Speaker 1: Here's what I Here's what I believe. I believe that
Speaker 1: legislation is fine, and it is inadequate. It is unsustainable.
Speaker 1: It can't just be policy changed. It can't be policy changes. Look,
Speaker 1: look we had to we had the Voting Rights Act, right,
Speaker 1: Look a look at what we're doing right just yesterday,
Speaker 1: trying to implement the voting Right from sixty You see
Speaker 1: what I mean. What I believe is that as we
Speaker 1: created at what I call a living embodied anti racist culture,
Speaker 1: as we begin to do that, the emergence will will
Speaker 1: will open up so much room and so much feel
Speaker 1: and so much power that our politicians will either have
Speaker 1: to comply or get the hell out of the way.
Speaker 1: But because we haven't done that, because we because we
Speaker 1: haven't worked our own pieces, they can keep skirting around
Speaker 1: what they should be doing for us as a people.
Speaker 1: One of the things I appreciate about what y'all do
Speaker 1: here is that y'all pub people and do things for
Speaker 1: people without expecting something back. And what that does is
Speaker 1: creates a cultural glue, right, And so those pieces matter.
Speaker 1: The more you do that, right, the more you develop
Speaker 1: these structures of trust not transaction. And at the same time,
Speaker 1: when stuff happens between us, right, I can hold it
Speaker 1: with you and help you move communally through that trauma
Speaker 1: if it's a trauma response, help you move through it
Speaker 1: and not just cast you all. That's the pieces. So, yes,
Speaker 1: legislation is fine. Anybody that's on a journey, journey of healing.
Speaker 1: You gotta get my grandmother's hands. You have to racialize
Speaker 1: trauma in the pathway to mending our hearts and bodies.
Speaker 1: It's available everywhere you get books now, Resima, thank you,
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Speaker 1: join it to the discussion with the Breakfast Club, talk
Speaker 1: about it. Warning, everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne
Speaker 1: the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. And now ifew
Speaker 1: just joined us, we're asking have you ever fell in
Speaker 1: love with a stripper? A gentleman out in age town
Speaker 1: lent the strip of two thousand dollars, a laptop and
Speaker 1: some Harry Potter DVD's and he suited her because he
Speaker 1: said they broke up. So we're asking, have you ever
Speaker 1: fell in love with us stripper? Now? I frequently DJ
Speaker 1: strip clubs all the time, and I remember one particular
Speaker 1: time our camera guy up here. He was feeling sad,
Speaker 1: so I took him out for his birthday, which one
Speaker 1: nick now No, Steve, oh, Steve, okay. Set. I was
Speaker 1: out of the club at about three o'clock. I said, Yo, Steve,
Speaker 1: ready to go. He was like, nah, I'll think for
Speaker 1: a little bit. It's like, Steve, you know nobody here.
Speaker 1: He was like no, but you know the stripper is
Speaker 1: feeling me. I said, no, she's not feeling she's not
Speaker 1: feeling you, sir. She's feeling the money that you're throwing it.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, no, I think we have a connection.
Speaker 1: I said, well, hit me when you get home so
Speaker 1: I know you made it home safe. Steve waited there
Speaker 1: until about four twenty until she got out of work.
Speaker 1: That's how much in love he was with that stripper.
Speaker 1: What happened after that, I don't know, but he was
Speaker 1: definitely in love. It's a scripper's job to give you
Speaker 1: attention guys, it's a completely transactional relationship. Yes, you're throwing
Speaker 1: your ones, she's dancing. That's what the Script club is for.
Speaker 1: It's like literally going into a barbershop, paying the barber
Speaker 1: to cut your hand and saying, yo, I think I
Speaker 1: think he's feeling me. Yo, he's playing on my neck. No,
Speaker 1: he's cutting your hair. Okay, it's the same thing with
Speaker 1: a scripper. But but I will say this, and for
Speaker 1: the strippers out there, when the stripper is dope dance
Speaker 1: and they have conversations with their h Mark, I'll call them,
Speaker 1: that's when it gets a little they're having conversations to
Speaker 1: see if you got some goddamn money, to see if
Speaker 1: they should be wasting their time with Your conversation makes
Speaker 1: the mark feel special because he's like, Wow, you dance
Speaker 1: for everybody, but you're sitting down talking to me. I
Speaker 1: think like, that's why Scripple was a great hole. Drop
Speaker 1: on the clues, bonds fall of scripts out there. That's
Speaker 1: why they're amazing at what they do because they make
Speaker 1: you feel special. They make you feel wanted, and that's
Speaker 1: how you have to make somebody feel if you want
Speaker 1: them to throw the money, salute to all the scripples. Man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you ever fell in love with stribble? I no, I
Speaker 1: absolutely haven't. I have a lot of franzy with strippers,
Speaker 1: of former strippers. I mean I never fell in love
Speaker 1: with a scribble. I mean you know I've been I've
Speaker 1: been fond of one in my day, okay, but never
Speaker 1: fell in love. The first time you got was that
Speaker 1: a strip club? Yeah? That was I was a kid though,
Speaker 1: Like that wasn't even I wasn't even old enough to
Speaker 1: be in the script club. I'll tell you this too.
Speaker 1: We need to be asking this question about the bottle girls,
Speaker 1: the bartenders. The bottom the generation might have definitely fell
Speaker 1: in love with a couple of bartenders, a couple of
Speaker 1: bottle girls before the scripples. Well, hello, who's this? Yes, hello,
Speaker 1: this is showing showing. It sounds like you fell in
Speaker 1: love with the ship or a bottle girl. Oh, don't
Speaker 1: do anything like that. Yeah, I'm falling in love with
Speaker 1: the Hooters girl. Back in the day, me and my
Speaker 1: friends we used to go up there up in se
Speaker 1: Kid and she was a beaune before brown skin for
Speaker 1: a minute and I would tip for a lot and
Speaker 1: I ended up she ended up for natural being to
Speaker 1: pay for a car payment, damn. And then I remember
Speaker 1: I would come into Hooters and at one point in
Speaker 1: time she wouldn't giving me the energy or the love
Speaker 1: that I thought I deserved. But yeah, yo, goddamn fragile ego,
Speaker 1: she didn't give me the love I deserve. What the
Speaker 1: hell you mean? Well, you know I was tipping her nicely, man, nicely? Ego, bro,
Speaker 1: you leading with ego? Bro boy? Poor you? That's all ego? Hello,
Speaker 1: who's this? Hey can here? We can hear you? What's
Speaker 1: up about? You? Would love? You fell in love with
Speaker 1: a stripper? And it was sir lemain and yeah, man, like,
Speaker 1: how y'all doing? Man? I want you to know I
Speaker 1: definitely appreciate, appreciate what y'all do. What you got going on? Man?
Speaker 1: What's up? Brother? Then I fell in love with a
Speaker 1: stripper man back in my high school day. And can't
Speaker 1: hear them? Yeah, sir, tell us all about it? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: her name was Essence. Man. I'm still I'm still in
Speaker 1: love with her. How long has it been, sir, yestre together?
Speaker 1: It's been about a good five six years. Man. The
Speaker 1: girl she has a fat, foody man body shape to tattoos.
Speaker 1: She I mean she looked good. She looked Hello, good man.
Speaker 1: I just I ain't been to the strip plus since
Speaker 1: every time I go. Honestly, I fell in love with
Speaker 1: strippers every time I go. So I just got to
Speaker 1: stay away from him for real. Hello, who's this nick?
Speaker 1: You fell in love with the strip of bro? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think I'm a lott one war maryl what's
Speaker 1: her name? As a baby? This a Marril flaws. Y'all
Speaker 1: start playing with me. Lord. Have you tried to highlight
Speaker 1: her outside of office hour? With her when she's not working? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're not got to Instagram or whatever. I'm
Speaker 1: talking to her. You know, we talked a little bit,
Speaker 1: but it's a hard to get her out of the club. Man.
Speaker 1: A lot of money in the club on her. Oh
Speaker 1: I fent a decent amount, but I think would have connected.
Speaker 1: Came out on the podcast. She came on your podcast. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know the podcast. She came on two different episodes,
Speaker 1: but she called Stripersole. So we had her and a
Speaker 1: couple other people. But you know, just getting the sender
Speaker 1: interviewer and talk to her, I'm like, I don't think
Speaker 1: I want a girl. So won't you tell her? Won't
Speaker 1: you be like y'all gonna be honest with you. I
Speaker 1: really like you. You know what I'm saying. Maybe you can,
Speaker 1: maybe you can offset her her her lifestyle. You got
Speaker 1: enough money to offset her lifestyle. I make a decent amount.
Speaker 1: But I think you know, see, she get a lot
Speaker 1: of money already. For the money ain't gonna get her.
Speaker 1: You know. So life, show a love, show a real love,
Speaker 1: like like like court her. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like like treat her the way you would want like
Speaker 1: somebody to treat your daughter. You would want your father
Speaker 1: to treat your mom like you. Show some real love.
Speaker 1: Good luck? Man? Why not? Why not? Hello? Who's dance?
Speaker 1: What this? Prince German? Chris? What up? Man? You fell
Speaker 1: in love with the strip of bro Oh yeah, gonna
Speaker 1: Miss Melfid's man? Oh my gosh, she blew my mind.
Speaker 1: She gave you a lap dance and blew your mind
Speaker 1: and your love. What's your name? Miss Melford's man? So
Speaker 1: I got the lap dance, and I got a number
Speaker 1: and all that, and I hooked the bull again, and
Speaker 1: that the second time my hostel put up. When I
Speaker 1: went to the Gas season, I got all kind of
Speaker 1: pills and still man, I couldn't even finish I was.
Speaker 1: I got my money for it. I take you that
Speaker 1: damn you got. All right, man, man, have mercy on
Speaker 1: my poor soul. What's that? Man? The story? I mean,
Speaker 1: there is no more to the story, y'all. Brother, just
Speaker 1: gotta stop letting y'all ego lead man, because some of
Speaker 1: y'all ego be making y'all believed things that don't exist,
Speaker 1: like y'all relationships with these scripples. All right, all, oh,
Speaker 1: scripple old you is a dance. That's it. And that's
Speaker 1: only because the relationship is transactional. You paid for the service,
Speaker 1: she provided that service. That's that. Y'all get to know
Speaker 1: each other outside of that, and you know, something happens
Speaker 1: great other than that. Goddamn tippic keeping moving, No, allright,
Speaker 1: we got more, don't move. It's the best of the
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. The Breakfast Club, The Breakfast Club. Your morning's
Speaker 1: will never be the same morning. Everybody's DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlemagne,
Speaker 1: the god we all the Breakfast Club. We got a
Speaker 1: special guest in the building. Yes, indeed, the first time
Speaker 1: on the show. And yeah, she's never been up there,
Speaker 1: you'd be busy. Seriously, Yes, Alicia, Keys's happening. Everything is everything,
Speaker 1: just trying to feel like I've never been in this
Speaker 1: room with y'all think, so, yeah, here we go. It's
Speaker 1: pretty disgusting in here if you look around? Is it
Speaker 1: you prefer not to be in on? It's beautiful? This
Speaker 1: is your space writes the essence to it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? The first time doing a double album,
Speaker 1: it is my first time. You got a lot of music.
Speaker 1: It's a lot so much you just have so much music,
Speaker 1: or during the pandemic, you like, I just feel like working.
Speaker 1: It's originals and unlocked, so yeah, it's definitely you know,
Speaker 1: really it's a lot of the songs are the same
Speaker 1: because the one side is original, so that's like more
Speaker 1: stripped down piano vibe. The other side Mike Will and
Speaker 1: I sampled the original, so it's really two perspectives of
Speaker 1: the same song. So if you really break it down,
Speaker 1: it's probably like fourteen joints times. Oh that's why I
Speaker 1: said unlock some of the tracks. Usually you don't work
Speaker 1: with just one producer like you did with Mike Will
Speaker 1: on the Unlocked version. How is that process now it
Speaker 1: was great. I mean, you know, you know, to just
Speaker 1: kind of bring it back down to the basics. I
Speaker 1: think at the beginning, I always it was just mostly
Speaker 1: me and at the time I had my partner crucial
Speaker 1: that we always worked together. But after that I started
Speaker 1: to explore more different collaborations. So coming back to the
Speaker 1: basics of just like being just me on the originals
Speaker 1: and then just me and Mike unlocked it it's just
Speaker 1: it's it's it's fluid, just feels kind of easy and
Speaker 1: it flows, especially for now. Obviously we're not all getting
Speaker 1: with a thousand people right now. It's about keeping the
Speaker 1: circle tight. First of all, how are you? I don't
Speaker 1: think we said that. How are you? How are you?
Speaker 1: How's your energy? Thank you? My energy is amazing. I
Speaker 1: was actually gonna ask you, how the hell are y'all good?
Speaker 1: I'm good. I appreciate you. It's a good time of
Speaker 1: the year now, holidays. I feel beat. I know it's
Speaker 1: a it's a weird time still though last year was
Speaker 1: really weird. This year is still a little weird. But
Speaker 1: you got new music out and the best time I
Speaker 1: feel like to drop music. It's keys miss That's what
Speaker 1: I'm calling that Keiths miss. That chain is nuts. Thank you?
Speaker 1: Where my tests beautiful? That it's so hip hop and soul,
Speaker 1: that's dopey. I figure everybody else bring out their chains. Actually, Swizzy,
Speaker 1: he gave me this for his birthday. His birthday, he
Speaker 1: gave me this. I thought that was kind of fire.
Speaker 1: So what you know, we've been seeing you now doing
Speaker 1: doing more and more interviews, More and more people are
Speaker 1: starting to know who Alicia Keys really is. We really
Speaker 1: didn't know, like you did do what what? What what?
Speaker 1: And then it just Keys took off and then we
Speaker 1: really didn't see you know what type of keys? This
Speaker 1: part of Keys? I think you right, And I guess
Speaker 1: I didn't ever realize it because I live with myself,
Speaker 1: so I know who I am, and I know how
Speaker 1: I feel, and I know what I do, and I
Speaker 1: know how vibe and all of my friends and people
Speaker 1: that rock with me, they know me. So I guess
Speaker 1: I didn't. And every time I come to an interviewer,
Speaker 1: I come to a thing, I'm always the same person.
Speaker 1: You can't say like I'm acting differently. But I guess
Speaker 1: I just never realized that you people didn't actually get
Speaker 1: to connect with me. I think because of maybe the
Speaker 1: type of interviews they were, so it didn't allow us
Speaker 1: to like get into the zone the way that maybe
Speaker 1: some of these ones more recently have felt. Who is
Speaker 1: Alicia Keys in twenty twenty one, We're going into twenty twenty?
Speaker 1: Who are you now? Who had twenty twenty two? It's crazy?
Speaker 1: Um Man, you know, I'm a lot of the same
Speaker 1: person and that I've always been. I'm definitely I'm definitely
Speaker 1: that same kind of empathetic, relatable, boots on the ground
Speaker 1: type of girl woman. Um But I definitely have a
Speaker 1: lot more wisdom. I have a lot more confidence. I
Speaker 1: have a lot more understanding of just just what's real
Speaker 1: and what's fake. I think sometimes this you know, this
Speaker 1: world is game. This industry can really be confusing, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you get confused about what's actual and what's not.
Speaker 1: So um So anyway, but just like having an amazing
Speaker 1: time I'm on my music. Fully, I'm better than ever
Speaker 1: on that on that side, and I just feel like
Speaker 1: I'm just a person who is really clear about who
Speaker 1: I am and what I want and where I'm going.
Speaker 1: Do your kids understand they have famous parents. They're so
Speaker 1: mad they'd be like you gotta go again, you have
Speaker 1: to go again, and they always try to guilt chip
Speaker 1: me extra like, but I'm gonna be right back every
Speaker 1: time I go, I come back and you can perform
Speaker 1: with me. Yeah, they're starting to like that. I'm noticing
Speaker 1: my younger genesis. He's very, very shy. He is the boss,
Speaker 1: and he don't play no games. He don't like you.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, he don't care what He's not trying
Speaker 1: to do it be like nice to anybody. But he's
Speaker 1: starting to like being on the stage a little bit,
Speaker 1: which is a shocker because he's super shy. The other
Speaker 1: day he was like, Mommy, why he didn't call me
Speaker 1: on stage. I was like, uh, I try to play
Speaker 1: you like you want to go off there? Yes, so
Speaker 1: anyway that yeah, they do like that now. I remember
Speaker 1: back in the day, there were some things about management,
Speaker 1: right that people were talking about and speculating on when
Speaker 1: you had first on a deal because you got signed
Speaker 1: at an early early age, right fourteen, And then I
Speaker 1: remember hearing that like they were charging you like some
Speaker 1: crazy percentage and then you had to get rid of management.
Speaker 1: What was the real story behind that? Really? Um? You know,
Speaker 1: I was really with the same management for a really
Speaker 1: a long time, and I don't think that it was
Speaker 1: like some crazy percentage. To be honest, the commissions in
Speaker 1: the business is just you know, it's like they're too high.
Speaker 1: And then you have a management commission, you have a
Speaker 1: business management commission, you have a lawyer commission, and you
Speaker 1: add all those commissions up and you end up with
Speaker 1: less than all of them. But you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I think that it's not that they were doing
Speaker 1: something that wasn't standard. The problem is that industry standard
Speaker 1: is incorrect and so as a young person you don't
Speaker 1: really know those things, and so you just do what
Speaker 1: you think you're supposed to do. And then finally five
Speaker 1: years down the line, when I was looking at my
Speaker 1: bottom line and my you know, management, business managers and
Speaker 1: lawyers were coming back with more money and I was
Speaker 1: on the road for two years straight, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's happening. So again, it's just an education process. I
Speaker 1: don't think it was like some major drama or thing
Speaker 1: that they were like stealing from me. It was more
Speaker 1: that this is what it usually is, and did you
Speaker 1: manage that? How do you adjust that? You just got
Speaker 1: to tell you I'm not paying you that. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not happening. I get it that that's
Speaker 1: what the standard is. But what has to happen for
Speaker 1: me is I need to have a long term you know,
Speaker 1: I need to be able to This needs to be
Speaker 1: a long term thing for me, not a short term thing.
Speaker 1: So you reapproached them and you say, I'm comfortable doing this.
Speaker 1: I won't do I want to do hourly. I don't
Speaker 1: want to do percentages. I want to monitor it, I
Speaker 1: want to see it. And you just got to get
Speaker 1: on top of your So once I figured out what
Speaker 1: to do, I could actually execute it. But at first
Speaker 1: you're in there like what it might do? You know?
Speaker 1: So once I got past that, that's all. I think.
Speaker 1: It was just that to clear it up. It never
Speaker 1: see it never seemed like you had trouble gaining creative
Speaker 1: control and freedom throughout your whole career. Even in the
Speaker 1: early days. They let you just do you. I have
Speaker 1: to say they definitely always I always had control of
Speaker 1: my music for sure, and I do think my first
Speaker 1: management was really instrumental on that. They were really about
Speaker 1: like me being at the head of my table, so
Speaker 1: they knew that I was playing. They knew I was producing,
Speaker 1: they knew I was writing, they knew this was my sognic,
Speaker 1: my sound, and it was really about like how to
Speaker 1: get the best out of it. And we tried at
Speaker 1: the beginning, we tried to do like all of the
Speaker 1: things where all the other producers do the thing. It
Speaker 1: just didn't work because it didn't sound like me. It
Speaker 1: wasn't New York enough, it wasn't like the vibe enough.
Speaker 1: So I think it definitely. I think it definitely. I've
Speaker 1: always had control of my sound. That's one thing I
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. It was in marketing and promotions that
Speaker 1: in your first deal they couldn't get a grasp on,
Speaker 1: you think, because clearly you blew up after that first deal,
Speaker 1: so you think the very first the very first deal,
Speaker 1: they just was corny, right, But you know, I think
Speaker 1: it just wasn't the right place for me. You know,
Speaker 1: now that I know and I believe in divine timing,
Speaker 1: you know, you realize that it just wasn't right. So
Speaker 1: I was I had to move out of there so
Speaker 1: that I could move on to the next thing. So
Speaker 1: I'm actually grateful that they were corny and didn't understand
Speaker 1: what I was doing because then um, I could move on.
Speaker 1: All right. We got mored with Alicia Keys. When we
Speaker 1: come back, don't move It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning
Speaker 1: morning everybody A CJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy
Speaker 1: we are the Breakfast Club was still kicking it with
Speaker 1: Alicia Keys. It's crazy, is this is the Alicia Keys that?
Speaker 1: I don't think everybody ever seen it in their life,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean just when I'm hearing you on
Speaker 1: drink Champs. Oh, she's a just the cockiness, just how
Speaker 1: you feel, just the authentic. But we never got a
Speaker 1: chance to hear you speak. And I think it's a
Speaker 1: different side, you know, because we loved the music, but
Speaker 1: we didn't know eight Keys, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: But now it's like New Yorker. She was punch you
Speaker 1: in your face, like this is that that vibe which
Speaker 1: I loved? I was gonna ask at twelve, what got
Speaker 1: you into singing and playing the piano and being a musician?
Speaker 1: At twelve, coming from New York City Hell's kitchen, Everybody's
Speaker 1: running around outside? What got you say? No, this is
Speaker 1: what I want to do. I don't know what always
Speaker 1: attracted me to the piano. It was almost like a
Speaker 1: calling kind of. I think, I just I don't even
Speaker 1: know nobody. I really nobody had no played. My grandmother played,
Speaker 1: but I barely saw her because she lived in like
Speaker 1: a whole other place. Um, so I didn't There wasn't
Speaker 1: somebody that was around me that kind of led me there.
Speaker 1: So I think it was a calling on the piano side.
Speaker 1: And then once I got a chance to have have
Speaker 1: access to one, because it's like who has a piano?
Speaker 1: Like that's that's the world we don't use because we
Speaker 1: don't have them record, you know what I mean? So
Speaker 1: so I think, you know, oh, that's what it was.
Speaker 1: I got. Um there was like a a strange gift
Speaker 1: that was a person kind of was moving and they
Speaker 1: didn't know what to do with this kind of piano
Speaker 1: they had in their family or whatever, and they said
Speaker 1: like could you use it? So it was one of
Speaker 1: those weird things that would never happen ever and did.
Speaker 1: And so I think that was kind of the door
Speaker 1: that opened it up, right? And how did you get
Speaker 1: into the Industrycause they said your mother was a paralegal,
Speaker 1: so how did you How did m know about the
Speaker 1: music industry. She did, like, how did the family know
Speaker 1: about getting you a deal? Like how she did it.
Speaker 1: I wasn't raised by my father, so my mother definitely
Speaker 1: was both for me and she she didn't know. She
Speaker 1: didn't know. Um, we happened to stumble on we were
Speaker 1: at the pl doing all of these uh kind of
Speaker 1: we were putting together a group and rehearsing at PL
Speaker 1: on a hundred thirty seventh like every day after school,
Speaker 1: and so, um, she didn't know anything. These guys kind
Speaker 1: of were like, hey, we you know, we think your
Speaker 1: daughter can do some stuff, and this is what we
Speaker 1: could do. And I remember they be in our little apartment.
Speaker 1: In our apartment was like tiny and they were kind
Speaker 1: of big. They'd just be sitting there taking up all
Speaker 1: the space. And I think she just I think she
Speaker 1: probably felt really distrustful. I think she just had to
Speaker 1: she decided to kind of go with it. But I
Speaker 1: don't think she knew anything. Now. On the first record
Speaker 1: on the album sample Truth, Yes, I love push Man.
Speaker 1: I just felt like he has such an energy a zone.
Speaker 1: Um you know, I love how he flows. It feels
Speaker 1: like he just zooms right into the truth and paint
Speaker 1: you a picture that voice is so like you just
Speaker 1: feel like you're right there with him everywhere. It's a
Speaker 1: movie to me every time that he rhymes. So I
Speaker 1: can't believe I never worked with him before. I've always
Speaker 1: admired him and that that temple of the Truth and
Speaker 1: the song that I wrote it is called Plentiful. It
Speaker 1: feels like his lane right there. So it was perfect.
Speaker 1: Why that sample, because that sample is just so so good.
Speaker 1: Can I don't feel like anybody used that. I don't
Speaker 1: know how that woman under the radar and I didn't
Speaker 1: even realize that that Yay producing. I didn't really realize that.
Speaker 1: So obviously, Yeah and I have history in regards to
Speaker 1: music we've made, so it was kind of fresh to
Speaker 1: come back there, not only with Yay, but obviously with
Speaker 1: the Truth Beanie Big love to Beanie and then push it.
Speaker 1: But it felt, you know, it's all about keys. This
Speaker 1: record is all about keys and those that organ and
Speaker 1: the way that I put the keys on top of it,
Speaker 1: it felt like it had this urgency and this darkness
Speaker 1: that and I like how the vocals I chose were
Speaker 1: like a jazzy zone, So I liked this mixture of world.
Speaker 1: It felt like it was a nice way to lure
Speaker 1: you into the world. I didn't know you did you
Speaker 1: don't know my name? What? I don't know why. I
Speaker 1: never thought now that I feel you like I didn't
Speaker 1: know it did the truth? Did you know he did
Speaker 1: the truth? I did when I tried to sample it,
Speaker 1: I tried. I tried to sample it to use for
Speaker 1: a commercial from my team. I hey, now that's fire. Also,
Speaker 1: they said you would do another verses You're open to
Speaker 1: it another versus another verses. Yes, I don't know who
Speaker 1: I'm trying to kill. When I'm listening to you on
Speaker 1: on drink chips, it was like, yeah, that John Legend
Speaker 1: was cool? You know that was that was like, you know,
Speaker 1: it was obvious. But I'm ready for that war. I'm
Speaker 1: ready for that action whatever. I love that. Who would
Speaker 1: be the one? Who? Do you? Do? You do? You know?
Speaker 1: I mean I agree with them at the end. Look
Speaker 1: record one of my favorite records. I need to Beyonce,
Speaker 1: the Rihanna, the Maridos, one of those three. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: do you feel like you don't get mentioned in that?
Speaker 1: That spear enough? No, I don't feel like that. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm in my own lane anyway. Definitely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I could see why people wouldn't because I don't
Speaker 1: really belong there, And sometimes I feel like Alicia Keys
Speaker 1: was born in the wrong era musically, What you mean
Speaker 1: you don't belong there? I just feel like I belong
Speaker 1: in my own space, you know. I just felt I
Speaker 1: occupy my own space that really doesn't fit. Actually, And
Speaker 1: even that when he said you believe you know my
Speaker 1: name wouldn't get mentioned within that, I don't even feel
Speaker 1: like it fits quite in that group. But I do
Speaker 1: feel like I was born in the wrong era too,
Speaker 1: I really do. I was probably missed it by a
Speaker 1: decade or two. Even when you listening to the album now,
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, wait a minute, where we at? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean it's like you feel Billy Holliday like that,
Speaker 1: you see me see those movies where it's like the
Speaker 1: bars and the lights are low and everybody's smoking cigars cigarettes,
Speaker 1: Like that's how Let's feel moves. I know, I know
Speaker 1: what you mean, and that's why I fit perfect here
Speaker 1: right now, because it's meant to be like that, and
Speaker 1: it's meant to have that mixture. So I don't, actually
Speaker 1: I don't I disagree like you splin gass like you're
Speaker 1: a fifteen term Grammy Award winning artists. I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think people heard of for her lane. She don't like,
Speaker 1: but you never do rb she do. The pop doesn't
Speaker 1: really make like that. There you go. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I feel like that's I think what
Speaker 1: you thought I was saying was as if I don't
Speaker 1: fit in that lane, as if I'm somehow not belonging there.
Speaker 1: I'm mormented, as if it's maybe it's unlaneable. It's not
Speaker 1: a comparison. You can't put this song against this song
Speaker 1: because they're no, they're not. They just don't. They're not
Speaker 1: in the same space or whatever. But she got me,
Speaker 1: she got you, and she got I like that drink Champs.
Speaker 1: You told the story about Prince right now, Has anybody
Speaker 1: else ever not cleared a sample for you besides Prince um,
Speaker 1: because I can't imagine Alicia Keys comes right and she's
Speaker 1: like when you told that story, though it was respectful,
Speaker 1: but you understood. Yeah, I understand that Prince is very
Speaker 1: into ownership and making sure the right people get the money.
Speaker 1: But I can't see somebody saying they have We're not
Speaker 1: going to sign off on this Alicia Keys record. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I guess I don't have any
Speaker 1: that comes to my head. That was like super super disappointing,
Speaker 1: you know, when I was like no, um so yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't remember another one that was my best
Speaker 1: that's my best one, you though, No, he loved me,
Speaker 1: which is why he said no. Record. He loved me,
Speaker 1: which is why he said no. And I actually appreciate
Speaker 1: he said no in a way that it wasn't no
Speaker 1: for me. It was no who owned what would come
Speaker 1: of it? It wasn't no to me, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I learned a lot of things about ownership,
Speaker 1: like did you and Prince have those type of conversations?
Speaker 1: So I understand now. And he was very obviously super vocal.
Speaker 1: He didn't he didn't overpreachum when we were I was
Speaker 1: with him, I feel like he was more concerned about
Speaker 1: me cursing Prince. He hated it because he was you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, So at that point, you know,
Speaker 1: that was the most important thing to him, and he
Speaker 1: knew I was gonna slip up. You know when I
Speaker 1: met Prince, that's the first thing I said, because I
Speaker 1: couldn't think of nothing the only thing he what did?
Speaker 1: He said, Because it's Prince. I didn't think I'll be
Speaker 1: you A certain people you get around, you don't realize
Speaker 1: you started scrugg Hey, you know I was reading your
Speaker 1: whole witness too, I think to say. And then he
Speaker 1: asked for a picture in princeon No, that picture. He
Speaker 1: tried to sneak one anyway. We first we see prints,
Speaker 1: we go high. I go high, he says, how he
Speaker 1: goes witness. Yeah, we'll talk about that one day we're connected,
Speaker 1: talk to me. We're talking about that. Princess. No, he said, no,
Speaker 1: I don't. He's I don't want to take pictures right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: he tried to sneak a picture while Prince is walking off.
Speaker 1: I did. He took a picture and it was there.
Speaker 1: It was Prince floating away right literally, which is just
Speaker 1: it that represents him perfect. And guess what ten seconds
Speaker 1: later that's in my phone. That was just black true
Speaker 1: story back the picture. And then it was gone, oh
Speaker 1: that hurts so bad over het. No, that's when I
Speaker 1: let me let me know Princess other worldly being. Question.
Speaker 1: Now I get it all a little movie. We got
Speaker 1: more with Alicia Keys when we come back it's the
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, Good Morning Morning, everybody is DJ enjy, Angela Yee,
Speaker 1: Scharlom and the guy we are the Breakfast Club was
Speaker 1: still kicking it with Alicia Keys. Yeah. When you recorded
Speaker 1: this album, Keys and you were riding has where you
Speaker 1: home during the pandemic, doing during doing this very much
Speaker 1: in love, it feels like, definitely, I feel like a
Speaker 1: lot of people pick up on the love and it's
Speaker 1: I am in love, and so that is actually right.
Speaker 1: And I also feel like I've also become able to
Speaker 1: express my love for myself, So I think a lot
Speaker 1: of the love that you feel is also me loving
Speaker 1: all myself and expressing like that love too, So it's both.
Speaker 1: It's obviously the love I have for my family, the
Speaker 1: love I have for Swiss, and the love that I
Speaker 1: have for myself. So I think that's what's coming out.
Speaker 1: Letting him hear these songs while you were writing them
Speaker 1: and recording them, m oh man, you know, he he definitely.
Speaker 1: He always kind of stays out of my way because
Speaker 1: he just, you know, lets me have my space, and
Speaker 1: he really likes that. But I love to play him
Speaker 1: songs after I'm finished, especially when I love them and
Speaker 1: when he loves them as fresh. You know, he sees
Speaker 1: extra overdramatic about everything. So I love I love that energy.
Speaker 1: But have I always been and um not the way
Speaker 1: that I thought I did. I thought that I thought
Speaker 1: that I was very much clear about what self love meant.
Speaker 1: But I realized that I didn't have that confidence and
Speaker 1: I didn't have that actual love. If I did, I
Speaker 1: would have probably made different choices, or I would probably
Speaker 1: have demanded more for myself in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: which is what I understand now. So what about worthiness?
Speaker 1: How long did it take you to get to a
Speaker 1: feeling of work? Yeah? The worthiness, that's a deep one
Speaker 1: because I always you know, I was raised by a
Speaker 1: feminist for sure. I always felt very much like I
Speaker 1: would talked about I'm worth it and as I'm a
Speaker 1: superwoman and all these things, which I actually knew when
Speaker 1: I was writing them that I didn't feel that way.
Speaker 1: I didn't quite feel the ways I was writing, which
Speaker 1: is why I need to write them. But I didn't
Speaker 1: realize that it was actually a worth a self worth
Speaker 1: issue that I had. So it took a minute longer
Speaker 1: than I wish. I wish I got it earlier, but
Speaker 1: I would say it within the past, you know, probably
Speaker 1: in the past three three to five years. Same. Why
Speaker 1: is that? Is that about December twenty nineteen, I got
Speaker 1: to the place of worthiness. Who absolutely and do you
Speaker 1: know what it was like or just like kind of
Speaker 1: accumulated anything. It was a seed somebody planted in me
Speaker 1: when they told me that even if you don't feel worthy,
Speaker 1: just know God knows you're worthy. And it was like,
Speaker 1: you're just gonna You're just gonna feel it. And literally
Speaker 1: I remember sitting in the house around this time twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen and it just hit me, like, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm worthy? You know that's that's a hard one. I
Speaker 1: really feel like we don't feel like that a lot.
Speaker 1: When you remember when you got to that point, you
Speaker 1: remember the moment. I remember the moment I realized that
Speaker 1: I didn't feel worthy um and I realized that that
Speaker 1: was you know, I realized by being almost so accommodating
Speaker 1: that expressed that I didn't feel worthy to fight for myself.
Speaker 1: You're trying to please e anybody else. But I also
Speaker 1: realized it's something to fighting for yourself. You have to
Speaker 1: be like, guess what I want this? What are you
Speaker 1: gonna do about it accommodate me as opposed to me
Speaker 1: always accommodating you. And so I started to recognize that
Speaker 1: that's what I was doing. And I thought it was humility.
Speaker 1: I thought it was you know, fluidity. I thought it
Speaker 1: was kindness, I thought it was whatever. But I realized
Speaker 1: it was actually I felt some type of way about
Speaker 1: I didn't have the self worth that I should have had.
Speaker 1: It was because of guilt, too, because of when you
Speaker 1: come from a certain environment, you have all this success
Speaker 1: and you're the breadwinner and all this other stuff. Is
Speaker 1: it that too, yep, yep. I think that there was
Speaker 1: definitely a lot of a lot of unneeded guilt about
Speaker 1: my success and feeling like I had to fit in
Speaker 1: and wanting to um, you know, I just didn't want to.
Speaker 1: I want to be with the same people I've always
Speaker 1: been with. I didn't want to feel like I wasn't
Speaker 1: able to they weren't able to relate to me, or
Speaker 1: I wasn't able to relate to them. So I think
Speaker 1: it's in a lot of ways, I would kind of
Speaker 1: just act that way. So yeah, I did think but
Speaker 1: that was my own thing. They didn't even feel like that.
Speaker 1: That's the thing we do we project for other people.
Speaker 1: They didn't even feel like that. So that that's you
Speaker 1: know how that goes. Said first you and Swiss, you
Speaker 1: didn't see Swiss as that type of person, Like I
Speaker 1: didn't have a connection at first, How y'all didn't have
Speaker 1: that connection? What didn't you see in Swiss at first?
Speaker 1: I was like, Naby, come on, it's like we literally
Speaker 1: day and night. And at least I thought that, noting
Speaker 1: that that's what I'm saying, y'all, we actually did. We're
Speaker 1: exactly the same, but I didn't realize that at the time. Um.
Speaker 1: One thing I guess that we are a bit different
Speaker 1: is is that he is one million times more flashy
Speaker 1: than I am. Definitely, I am, definitely, but I mean
Speaker 1: but I'm exercising, I'm practicing, and I love it. I'm
Speaker 1: with it. But the but I think that's probably the
Speaker 1: biggest one. You know, he he would the first car
Speaker 1: he probably got, you know, with some probably Ferrari mans
Speaker 1: of Rieti and Zoe something, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: The first car I got was like a mins of
Speaker 1: six to six, Like I was just like you know
Speaker 1: what I want to me? That was fresh as hell.
Speaker 1: I was like I was excited, but I didn't even
Speaker 1: think that I could have more. You know, it's always
Speaker 1: just kind of about like just doing the basics type
Speaker 1: of thing again, which goes back to where we were.
Speaker 1: And also I want to actually drive in the street
Speaker 1: and actually like be able to go places. And I
Speaker 1: realized that now. I didn't understand that then, and so
Speaker 1: for me that would probably be what I felt was
Speaker 1: so so day and night. He was like super over
Speaker 1: the top everything everything. But but I realized that was
Speaker 1: just some exercising what he deserves. And that's the thing
Speaker 1: that's the thing difference between him and I, and I
Speaker 1: think we actually have balanced each other in a beautiful
Speaker 1: way with that. It's like you get to express what
Speaker 1: you deserve. I think we're taught that we're not supposed
Speaker 1: to have nice things because it's somehow unholy or not right.
Speaker 1: And I think what happened where that comes from. I
Speaker 1: think it's just because people can take that and get
Speaker 1: confused about it and get very selfish about it as
Speaker 1: opposed to being given. But one thing that Swiss is
Speaker 1: is super given. He never does anything for himself before
Speaker 1: he makes sure that everybody is straight. So that's the fact.
Speaker 1: My first b check. Ever in this business because of Swiss,
Speaker 1: you didn't have to do that for me at all.
Speaker 1: He's that guy, He's always that guy. So I think
Speaker 1: that's what happens. You get might get misconstrued, and then
Speaker 1: you start only thinking about yourself as opposed to making
Speaker 1: sure that everybody is good. So as long as that's
Speaker 1: happening and there's a balance, and there's nothing wrong with happen.
Speaker 1: I heard the first piano that you got, he tried
Speaker 1: to get you to get rid of it and get
Speaker 1: something way nice, and he was like, no, first first
Speaker 1: piano she ever received. When I guess when you signed
Speaker 1: the deal, they gave you a piano right, and you
Speaker 1: wouldn't get rid of He was like this way better pianos,
Speaker 1: more expensive piano, and you was like, Nabby, you know,
Speaker 1: he wanted everything to be liver Rachi, so you know,
Speaker 1: but the I don't think he knew. He didn't realize.
Speaker 1: So in our house, it is my first piano, and
Speaker 1: that's the piano that I was given by Columbia when
Speaker 1: I was sixteen, and so that's like a memory. They
Speaker 1: could put it in another room because you guys got
Speaker 1: plenty of rooms. We like this one we like. Now,
Speaker 1: when did you come up with the idea to do
Speaker 1: unlocked and originals? What made you say this is how
Speaker 1: it's going to happen. I really wanted to, but first
Speaker 1: of all, the originals, the concept of Keys definitely was
Speaker 1: always about the piano, and I really did want it
Speaker 1: to have that just that stripped backfield. There's something about yeah,
Speaker 1: and so I think Keys was really like coming back
Speaker 1: home and so that you're just really wanting to be
Speaker 1: about the piano and writing it and making it all
Speaker 1: about that. And as I did that, I loved it
Speaker 1: and it was it was fire, but there was there's
Speaker 1: also this other side of me to what you're saying
Speaker 1: that I think it's hard to show all of you,
Speaker 1: for all of us, I mean, for all of us,
Speaker 1: it's hard to really display that you know or have
Speaker 1: an opportunity to display that. And it felt like doing
Speaker 1: this unlocked piece, not only was it exciting because it
Speaker 1: allowed us to reinterpret this these originals, but it allowed
Speaker 1: it to be the other side of me that I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have wanted just a whole album of unlocked, and
Speaker 1: I didn't Maybe I would have wanted a whole original,
Speaker 1: but I love them together because it's full speed. I
Speaker 1: have a little movie, got more with Alicia Keys. When
Speaker 1: we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. God, Morning Morning.
Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy we
Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club were still kicking it with Alicia Keys. Chalomagne.
Speaker 1: You got a song called a Nat King Cole on
Speaker 1: the project. Yeah, he's clearly a musical hero of yours, definitely,
Speaker 1: And I think it was just the theme that we
Speaker 1: started to write. I wrote that with a woman named
Speaker 1: Natalie Hemby, who's super fresh, and the theme that we
Speaker 1: wanted to write was about because the theme of Keys
Speaker 1: and the theme of my life right now is really
Speaker 1: about completely never holding back ever again. And to you,
Speaker 1: you actually are allowed to be on your bullshit? Who
Speaker 1: said you have to tune down? Toned down? Like, where
Speaker 1: did that come from? So that was a part of
Speaker 1: my life for a long time. I rejected, I don't
Speaker 1: want to know more and so and so that song
Speaker 1: really describes that, like tear down the chandeliers and be
Speaker 1: like your most majestic and to me, Nat King Cole
Speaker 1: represents that there's like an elegance and a prowess and
Speaker 1: like a legacy and some really a power that he represents.
Speaker 1: And that's why that's why we wanted to call it
Speaker 1: that ill though, because a lot of people actually don't
Speaker 1: even know Nat King cole believe it or not. I
Speaker 1: think there's a whole generation of people that don't, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's fresh though, I think, because you know, because
Speaker 1: I think it turns people on to like, well, who
Speaker 1: was that and what is that? I think you know,
Speaker 1: like a song or two because you over the holiday
Speaker 1: as you hear like unforgetable, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and you're like ter exactly. But but so that that wordplay,
Speaker 1: it was more about be unforgettable like Na kincole Um.
Speaker 1: By the way, the Wayne verse on that, to me
Speaker 1: is so masterful. I love how he I love that verse. Well,
Speaker 1: what when for somebody who doesn't fit into an era musically?
Speaker 1: What is your inspiration? What do you have into everything? Everything?
Speaker 1: I love to I love to listen to everything. I
Speaker 1: love to listen to things that I love new discoveries.
Speaker 1: I love listening to new artists. I love, you know,
Speaker 1: taking it back to like the errors of the thirties
Speaker 1: and the fifties and the sixties and the seventies going
Speaker 1: through the errors are ill. So I just think listening
Speaker 1: to everything and then just allowing it to kind of
Speaker 1: be in there and then go wherever it goes. It's
Speaker 1: part of what creates the time is I think it's
Speaker 1: because I actually love all the errors that it sounds sexual.
Speaker 1: I was listening to Drink Champs. You were talking about
Speaker 1: the Empire State Record, and you said when you first
Speaker 1: did it, you did it in LA and Jay called
Speaker 1: you and was like, could you change the vocals? What
Speaker 1: was your mind frame at that point, like you know
Speaker 1: who you're talking to was wasn't at that at any point.
Speaker 1: I feel like he probably had a really hard time
Speaker 1: making that call. I don't feel like he wanted to
Speaker 1: make that call. You can't have it, nobody have the engineer,
Speaker 1: Jay said, you know, um, so I feel like it
Speaker 1: was like, hey, how you doing, how's the kids? How's moms? Like? Yeah,
Speaker 1: can you change your verse? Yeah? Now he was just
Speaker 1: like a sub and and I was like, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: I was excited because I was like, okay, we got
Speaker 1: the record, and I knew I was really trying hard
Speaker 1: to meet his deadline, and so I worked hard to
Speaker 1: get it and so I was like, yeah, you got it,
Speaker 1: you heard it. And I feel like right when I
Speaker 1: asked him you got it, you heard it was right
Speaker 1: where he was like yeah, and then he was just like,
Speaker 1: you know, I was thinking. I was just thinking that.
Speaker 1: I was wondering, do you think you could do one
Speaker 1: more time? Could you do it one more time? And
Speaker 1: I definitely remember I was like what In my head,
Speaker 1: I was like, what one more time I did this ship?
Speaker 1: But he was like, because I just I just feel like,
Speaker 1: maybe one more time really gonna get the vibe. And
Speaker 1: I had to respect it, because you know, you do.
Speaker 1: It's true. There's an energy on a record and you
Speaker 1: can feel it right away, and it was his record.
Speaker 1: He knew what he was looking for, so I had
Speaker 1: to respect that I possibly could have gave it one
Speaker 1: more time. And I did realize that I was sick
Speaker 1: because I sang it sick because I was trying to
Speaker 1: hit the deadline, and so you know, it's just you
Speaker 1: could tell. But I think what he really wanted was
Speaker 1: me to talk more on it, because he was like,
Speaker 1: could you do more of the you know you go, uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you do all of that. Can I can I get
Speaker 1: a little more of that. So he just had the
Speaker 1: direction that gave me I can and I took it.
Speaker 1: If you could do a collab album with somebody, who
Speaker 1: would it be? Oh damn. I would want it to
Speaker 1: be something crazy, like three or four people from like
Speaker 1: whole different universes. I think that would be so ill.
Speaker 1: Who would it be? Got it? Okay, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: Um Kendrick M that's it. Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: I feel like that would be almost impossible to get
Speaker 1: done between Honestly, it's gonna be a chicky one, but
Speaker 1: I think it had sound out reading yea hou at
Speaker 1: least a record. Yeah, let's go. I feel like we
Speaker 1: could get an EP, maybe four songs, it's something, let's see.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna push for it. I feel like you might
Speaker 1: be just planting the seed. I think that might be
Speaker 1: already done, maybe a record or something. I wanted to ask,
Speaker 1: what would this version of Alicia Keys tell Alicia in
Speaker 1: two thousand and one? I think she would tell her too,
Speaker 1: like don't back down, don't back down, like what you
Speaker 1: what you see, what you feel, what you need, There's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that, and that you deserve it, so
Speaker 1: ask for it, like before you before you think you
Speaker 1: gotta pivot or change or fix or accommodate, like ask
Speaker 1: for what you want first, and definitely like to know
Speaker 1: that you you know what you're doing, nobody knows what
Speaker 1: to do better than you, because I think that that
Speaker 1: happens to a lot of us. We start to listen
Speaker 1: to a bunch of people that we think no more,
Speaker 1: or they've been in the game longer, or they done more,
Speaker 1: or they we think they could take us somewhere we
Speaker 1: can't take ourselves. But that's actually fake, It's not real. Son,
Speaker 1: Did you ever backdown? Because I don't see you as
Speaker 1: a as a somebody that would backdown. It was more
Speaker 1: in little ways, not like you know, not liking I'm
Speaker 1: definitely strong minded, strong headed for sure, but I do
Speaker 1: feel like I could overcompromise. I remember you told the
Speaker 1: story about a photographer who made you feel uncomfortable and
Speaker 1: had you like I'm buying your pants a little and
Speaker 1: now do this and yeah, and for women out there,
Speaker 1: you don't have to do anything that makes you feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: You feel like this is all right. I'm just I
Speaker 1: don't want to be difficult and I'm just yeah, or
Speaker 1: you feel like again, Man, this is a really this
Speaker 1: is a major photographer. They shoot all the time. They
Speaker 1: shoot the biggest this and the biggest that. And if
Speaker 1: he says that I should probably unbutton the top part
Speaker 1: of my pants, maybe that's okay. That's probably good because
Speaker 1: he no, it's good. It don't feel good. Don't ask
Speaker 1: me to unbut my pants? Are you crazy? You creek?
Speaker 1: Like you know, it's okay, it's okay to like, it's
Speaker 1: okay to like guard protect yourself, man, protect yourself. Nobody's
Speaker 1: gonna protect you, So protect yourself. And that's what I
Speaker 1: would tell her, right absolutely. Album is out right now, Keys,
Speaker 1: and we appreciate you for joining us that hopefully we'll
Speaker 1: have to be another eleven years before you come home. No,
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Speaker 1: what did can yet To do to get arrested for
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Speaker 1: have to be held accountable for the consequences of our actions.
Speaker 1: And when you rob a bank nine times out of ten,
Speaker 1: you're going to jail. I'm just simply trying to get
Speaker 1: you all in the mindset of this woman. Okay. Now,
Speaker 1: whenever I think about bank robberies, first thing I think
Speaker 1: about is how much did they get right? Second thing
Speaker 1: I think about is how did they get away? What
Speaker 1: was the getaway vehicle? There's literally nothing you can't find
Speaker 1: online because I google top ten getaway cars for robbing banks.
Speaker 1: Let's run them down real quick. Number ten is the
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty two Ford V eight. That's the old black
Speaker 1: cars you see in all the old black and white movies.
Speaker 1: Number nine is the Toyota Corolla. Number eight, it's an ambulance.
Speaker 1: See it's all about something that is fast, is something
Speaker 1: that blends in. Nothing blends in like an ambulance. Number
Speaker 1: seven is a Cadillac CTSV wagon. Number six is the taxi.
Speaker 1: Yet again, another vehic blends right in. Number five is
Speaker 1: the General Lee. You know, the bright orange Dodge charge
Speaker 1: you the duke boards you're driving duke for hazard, you
Speaker 1: know that one. Number four is the Alpine armored Cadillac Escalade.
Speaker 1: Don't know where you just find one of those. Number
Speaker 1: three is the Porsche Cayenne Turbo s. Number two is
Speaker 1: the Dodge Charger SRT three ninety two. That's for speed.
Speaker 1: And the number one getaway car for bank robberies is
Speaker 1: the incas Hearing APC. That's the big armor truck that
Speaker 1: the SWAT team draft. No regular civilian is gonna have that,
Speaker 1: so I don't even know that's on there. But the
Speaker 1: point of all these vehicles is either for speed are
Speaker 1: to blend in. Well, ken Yeta must have been going
Speaker 1: for the blend in part because she damn show wasn't
Speaker 1: going for the speed. Would you like to know what
Speaker 1: her getaway vehicle a choice was? Whould you what is it?
Speaker 1: Let's go to WJA XTBS forty seven for the report police.
Speaker 1: The Jacksonville Sheriff's Office is releasing the identity of a
Speaker 1: woman accused of robbing a bank from her wheelchair. This
Speaker 1: is a new mug shot of ken Yetta Gordon. Actually,
Speaker 1: news Jacks broke the news yesterday when police say that
Speaker 1: a woman became angry while discussing her account at the
Speaker 1: Region's bank in downtown Jacksonville. She's accused of telling a
Speaker 1: worker that she was going to kill everyone inside and
Speaker 1: that this was a robbery. She left, they say, in
Speaker 1: a motorized wheelchair after getting the cash. She was arrested
Speaker 1: just a few blocks away. Stop. I don't like when
Speaker 1: you go rogue drop. All right, Jesus, what the flaida
Speaker 1: is going on here? All right? There's only three people
Speaker 1: who could have truly gotten away with this crime. One
Speaker 1: Rolling Ray okay. Two Snoop Dogg's Character and training Day
Speaker 1: Three Professor Charles Xavier. Those are the only three individuals
Speaker 1: who who could have gotten away with robbing a bank
Speaker 1: in a wheelchair. Now, let me tell you something. This
Speaker 1: is why Florida is full of brilliant idiots. Because robbing
Speaker 1: a bank in a wheelchair, truly is the best way
Speaker 1: to blend in, even if you don't really need a wheelchair.
Speaker 1: If you roll in the bank, rob the bank, then
Speaker 1: roll out, okay, all the block of two, all right,
Speaker 1: once you get up and walk, ditch the wheelchair. Now
Speaker 1: you don't even fit the description of what the bank
Speaker 1: teller saw. It's genius, yes, all right. The sad part
Speaker 1: is this woman didn't have a plan. I'm not encouraging
Speaker 1: people to rob banks, No, I'm just saying, can yet
Speaker 1: them picture a plan before you picture yourself rolling into
Speaker 1: a bank asking for a big bank roll and listen,
Speaker 1: just because I have understanding of this woman's situation, meaning
Speaker 1: I understand why she would be in the mind frame
Speaker 1: the robber bank simply because I understand the current economic
Speaker 1: condition a lot of people are facing. It's easy to say,
Speaker 1: can ye to, should have just rolled with the punch's
Speaker 1: life was throwing at her, But no, folks is broke
Speaker 1: and you can't tell people to just roll with it. Okay.
Speaker 1: In life, we all have a role to play, but
Speaker 1: sometimes what your casted ass is out of your control.
Speaker 1: Remember when Kodak Black said he can't even roll in peace?
Speaker 1: Remember that neither ken ken Yeida, because she's starting waiting
Speaker 1: on this damn government to roll out these damn stimulus checks.
Speaker 1: By the way, she's only thirty nine, only thirty nine.
Speaker 1: I'm inspired by people who keep rolling no matter their age.
Speaker 1: But she's just thirty nine, and she's at the point where,
Speaker 1: even though she's disabled in a wheel, just she has
Speaker 1: to rob a bank at thirty nine. Think about that, Canda.
Speaker 1: I feel your pain. But even though I feel your pain,
Speaker 1: I still have to give this story the credit it
Speaker 1: deserves for being stupid. But can Yida, I'm praying for you.
Speaker 1: I want you to get the help you need for
Speaker 1: your drug problem because they found a crack pipe on you. Yes,
Speaker 1: she was riding dirty for real, But I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: can you to? I want you to get clean, put
Speaker 1: the bs behind you, and one day, I promise you,
Speaker 1: the good times will roll. Please give can you to Gordon?
Speaker 1: The sweet sounds of the Hamletones. Oh No, you are
Speaker 1: the dogee of the day, the dogee oh the day.
Speaker 1: Ye Oh. We're not gonna play a game. Ya don't
Speaker 1: want to play a game. We're not gonna do that.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna play a game I don't want to play. Well,
Speaker 1: I have no problem rolling out a game of Jess
Speaker 1: what race it? Alright? Alright, here are the context clues.
Speaker 1: All right. I don't even know if he's a contact clue.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I use that correctly. But
Speaker 1: can you to Gordon? Okay, Jacksonville, Florida, robbed the bank
Speaker 1: and a motorized wheelchair. Oh you want a description? I
Speaker 1: need to give a description. I don't give a description.
Speaker 1: A little quick descriptions. Com you the description that the
Speaker 1: police were using. Hold okay, this is the description. Hold on?
Speaker 1: You see if I could find it? Hold on, officers
Speaker 1: are looking for an adult, blank female, thirty nine years
Speaker 1: of age with short blonde hair. Oh, I got you now.
Speaker 1: We thought it was easy. I thought it was easy.
Speaker 1: You thought short blonde hair? Can YadA? I said, can
Speaker 1: you do? Can you you know that's how you pronounced it?
Speaker 1: Can you eat the garden? Ramirez? All right? Who said Ramirez?
Speaker 1: I'm down for the profile and but go okay, Porter Angelie,
Speaker 1: are you sure you don't want to play? I think
Speaker 1: it is a white man, a white man, white man? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, I see where we take it.
Speaker 1: It uh, And I ain't telling y'all whether y'all wright
Speaker 1: or wrong. We're just gonna lead this. Why didn't you
Speaker 1: ask me to sing your name? Why you only asked
Speaker 1: um Envy? Well, now I asked him the same my name.
Speaker 1: I thought you want to him to sing it? No,
Speaker 1: he said say it you want to say? I can
Speaker 1: say his name ahead, Charlo, go ahead, quail P. I'm
Speaker 1: not telling y'all's black three month. I'm not telling y'all.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, what can you to go again?
Speaker 1: Thank you? Interpretation O charmckay, y'all guess figure it out
Speaker 1: on your own, go do your own research. I'm not
Speaker 1: telling y'all white man, I agree with you. That's what
Speaker 1: I saw. All right. We got more. Don't move. It's
Speaker 1: the best of the Breakfast Club. The breakfast Club, the
Speaker 1: breakfast Club. Your morning's will never be the same. Everybody's
Speaker 1: DJ Envy Angela Ye, Charlomagne, the guy. We all the
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes,
Speaker 1: indeed we have Judge Faith Jenkins. Welcome back, Hello, thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm doing great. It's been years. It's been three years
Speaker 1: since I've been here. Twenty times twice. Yes, wow, wow,
Speaker 1: I know what I changed for you in three years.
Speaker 1: A lot changed three years. I got a puppy, Cooper.
Speaker 1: He is a cavalier Yorky Poodle mix, very energetic little guy,
Speaker 1: but a lot of responsibility. There wasn't expecting that. It's
Speaker 1: a dog a lot on the bad. No, okay, good, No,
Speaker 1: he's got a lot on the bad. He sleeps in
Speaker 1: his own room. We's his own room. Well, yeah, because
Speaker 1: I wanted him to learn very early on to be independent,
Speaker 1: so we put him. We create trained him early on
Speaker 1: with two things we were able to do. Create train
Speaker 1: him and potty train him. Okay, if you don't do
Speaker 1: that from the beginning, then they hate it. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you don't train them to get used to that, and
Speaker 1: they'll go in there. Like my dog would look all
Speaker 1: sad every time, because in the beginning I would let
Speaker 1: her just like roam around. But then I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: sometimes we have to put her up if she's been bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she'll look all sad and then I feel bad. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But what the trainer said, from the very beginning, the
Speaker 1: biggest mistake people make is they give the dogs too
Speaker 1: much freedom. Absolutely, and so you have to rain that
Speaker 1: in early on, but yeah, a lot a lot of
Speaker 1: other things change. I got married married, yes, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, and that I'm sure early on kind of
Speaker 1: trade over so everything applies. Uh so got Mary started
Speaker 1: divorce court, switch judge shows you also judge faith and
Speaker 1: they alm on divorce Court. And then of course I
Speaker 1: wrote system settled the court. It's interesting, is the show
Speaker 1: real like when you say, when when you go to
Speaker 1: the divorce court after all you divorced? Or is it
Speaker 1: more after that? Really they change the premise of the
Speaker 1: show several years ago where you can be on the
Speaker 1: show and don't have to be married. So there's a
Speaker 1: there's a there's a different aspect of the show before
Speaker 1: Your Vows where people come in they've been in their
Speaker 1: relationship for a while and they're just they're trying to
Speaker 1: decide to get whether to get married or not. So
Speaker 1: that's a part of the show where we address the
Speaker 1: dudes and don't and if if they actually should perceive
Speaker 1: and move forward to the next level in their relationship.
Speaker 1: So it's really opened up to where it's not just
Speaker 1: married couples. And then legally, do we give divorces on
Speaker 1: the show? No, we give advice on what to do
Speaker 1: when you're at this breaking point, and people sometimes bring
Speaker 1: their papers and we will refer them to other attorneys.
Speaker 1: Friends could come on the show and friends, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we haven't gone that far opening up. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: real people in relationships with real issues. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I thought that when they go
Speaker 1: to the voice court, they get legally. Legally, we cannot
Speaker 1: grant a divorce per se, but we can give them
Speaker 1: advice on how to proceed in going to the next level.
Speaker 1: I had someone come in and she'd been married for
Speaker 1: eleven years and they have two children together, and he
Speaker 1: has three other kids. And it was really crazy because
Speaker 1: this man would take her kids and go to the
Speaker 1: other women and the other kids. They all knew each other,
Speaker 1: but she remained uninvolved but just knowing about the other relationship.
Speaker 1: And I thought, how do you get to that level
Speaker 1: in your life where this is such a painful experience
Speaker 1: for you, but you're accepting it under some kind of
Speaker 1: premise in your mind that it's better to stay in
Speaker 1: this marriage because you think having him around would be
Speaker 1: better than nothing at all, staying in a toxic relationship.
Speaker 1: A relationship that's not good for you, doesn't help your children.
Speaker 1: All you're doing is normalizing really inappropriate behavior in front
Speaker 1: of them, and they in turn, they see it all
Speaker 1: and it affects what their relationships would be like later
Speaker 1: on in life. Some people feel like once they take
Speaker 1: a vow, then they can't break that vow because it's
Speaker 1: no matter what, or for better or worse the best.
Speaker 1: And I've heard some people feel like, you know, they're
Speaker 1: relying on that. Some people treat women if they leave
Speaker 1: a relationship or leave a man for doing something like
Speaker 1: they're wrong because they didn't stick through it, because you
Speaker 1: got to be right or die. Yeah, that's a that's
Speaker 1: a mistake that people make because you know, at all
Speaker 1: times in your life there are a lot of people
Speaker 1: that you love in your life, and one of the
Speaker 1: tough things about life is a lot of times you
Speaker 1: have to walk away from people that you love in
Speaker 1: order to protect your peace. Now, that's kind of like
Speaker 1: the chapter in your book, are dealing with rejection When
Speaker 1: life set you free? Yeah, I mean when one of
Speaker 1: the big chapters in the book, one of my favorite
Speaker 1: chapters is the chapter on rejection. Because we all go
Speaker 1: through rejection, and for a long time I didn't know
Speaker 1: how to handle it. So and I moved to New
Speaker 1: York right after I got out of school, so I
Speaker 1: was in the city trying to figure all of this
Speaker 1: stuff out. And I'll never forget one of the first
Speaker 1: times I got rejected. I was I was actually in college.
Speaker 1: There was an annual event called Casino Night at my
Speaker 1: school and I wasn't dating anyone. I didn't date much
Speaker 1: in college at all. I was really about the books
Speaker 1: and all the organizations, then cheering and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: And I asked a guy to go to Casino Night
Speaker 1: with me, just innocent, not a really a date, but
Speaker 1: just go to this event. And he hesitated, he paused,
Speaker 1: and then he told me no. And I remember because
Speaker 1: he was We were friends, and he was a good
Speaker 1: looking guy, he was cute. I knew he was single,
Speaker 1: so I thought, well, you can't just go to Casino Night.
Speaker 1: But he told me no, and I remember being embarrassed
Speaker 1: at the time and avoiding him for the rest of
Speaker 1: the semester, not wanting to see him. Well, five years later,
Speaker 1: I was walking down the street in my college town
Speaker 1: and I ran into him and he pulled me to
Speaker 1: the side. I was with some friends. He pulled me
Speaker 1: to the side. He was like, Hey, can I talk
Speaker 1: to you for a second. I said, okay. He said,
Speaker 1: do you remember several years ago when you asked me
Speaker 1: to casino night? He said, well, I wanted to tell
Speaker 1: you that I really liked you, but I didn't have
Speaker 1: a suit. I didn't have anything to wear. And I
Speaker 1: was too embarrassed to tell you that I didn't have
Speaker 1: a suit or anything to wear. But I thought it
Speaker 1: was really interesting because how many times do we take
Speaker 1: rejection or someone telling us know, and then we go
Speaker 1: down a rabbit hole and we make it about us
Speaker 1: that's right? Wow? Am I not good enough? Am I
Speaker 1: not smart enough? Am I'm not pretty enough? And it
Speaker 1: could absolutely have nothing to do with you, And everything
Speaker 1: to do with them is something that they're going through
Speaker 1: or their perspective, or some guy who just doesn't have
Speaker 1: a suit. So I learned from that experience and then
Speaker 1: going through other experiences dealing with rejection in my life,
Speaker 1: how not to internalize it and take it so personal
Speaker 1: all the time, whether it's with a love interest, a job,
Speaker 1: whatever it is that you're dealing with rejection. Most often
Speaker 1: it's just not about you. So Luke to Judge Phi Jenkins.
Speaker 1: We're talking to her right now. Her new book sys
Speaker 1: Don't Settle, How to Stay Smart and Matters that a
Speaker 1: Heart is out right now, and I want to tell
Speaker 1: y'all to man, make sure y'all tune in tonight to
Speaker 1: my late night talk show, to God's Honest Truth. It
Speaker 1: comes on at ten pm on Comedy Central. Okay, you
Speaker 1: need to get in tune. If you're not in tune,
Speaker 1: and you need to tune in tonight because we got
Speaker 1: Vice President Amala Harris joining us under God's Honest Truth
Speaker 1: on Comedy Central tonight at ten pm. Join me, why
Speaker 1: don't you? And why you're watching? Use the hashtag TGHT.
Speaker 1: We'll be back with more. Judge Faith Jenkins. The Breakfast
Speaker 1: Club was still kicking it with Judge Faith Jenkins. Show
Speaker 1: me if you weren't Judge Faith Jenkins, we have came
Speaker 1: up to you five years ago and apologizing all that
Speaker 1: it was five years later. I was. I was just
Speaker 1: running into him at the school. So we try to
Speaker 1: ask you that again, be like, but I got a
Speaker 1: money for a suit now, No, I think he just
Speaker 1: wanted to tell me. It was like he wanted to
Speaker 1: get that off of his chest. He really wanted me
Speaker 1: to know because he gave me no explanation at the time.
Speaker 1: A lot of you know a lot of times, and
Speaker 1: we have to release ourselves from wanting to know why
Speaker 1: because I you know, I talk about this in the
Speaker 1: book too, how I would call people and try to
Speaker 1: find out, Well, I just want closure and I want
Speaker 1: to know why this didn't happen. You know what's going
Speaker 1: on here, and you have to release this need to
Speaker 1: want to know why. Closure doesn't come from other people,
Speaker 1: it comes from you. Because I always say, don't give
Speaker 1: anybody else that kind of power over your life. No
Speaker 1: one should have the power. When I got married to
Speaker 1: my husband, Kenny always say that he um. When I
Speaker 1: got married to Kenny, I remember at being a time
Speaker 1: and this was just a year and eight months ago,
Speaker 1: by the way. So I spent a long time out
Speaker 1: in these dating streets, living, learning, growing and really having
Speaker 1: an appreciation for what I knew would work for me
Speaker 1: in a relationship and what wouldn't. What I was willing
Speaker 1: to compromise on, what I wasn't willing to compromise on.
Speaker 1: All my likes and dislikes, This is what you should
Speaker 1: be doing when you're single, figuring out who you are.
Speaker 1: You're you know, you got married and everybody's path is different.
Speaker 1: You got married at an early age, so you grew
Speaker 1: up together with your wife, whereas for me, I was
Speaker 1: single for so long and very independent. I was wondering,
Speaker 1: how am I going to mesh with somebody else when
Speaker 1: I haven't lived with anybody even since college. So all
Speaker 1: of the things you're thinking about. But I remember at
Speaker 1: the time when I got to the place where I
Speaker 1: knew I was at a point in my life I
Speaker 1: wanted to get married. I was so happy with where
Speaker 1: I was in my life, and I thought, I want
Speaker 1: to bring somebody in my life who's going to add
Speaker 1: to this happiness, not make me happy. And like you said,
Speaker 1: sometimes people get married and they think once we get married,
Speaker 1: he'll turn into the person, or still turn into the person.
Speaker 1: Things will stay to be and that does not happen.
Speaker 1: Like that. Marriage doesn't change anything about anybody. It may
Speaker 1: change your last name, but that's it. So people come
Speaker 1: in they want they're dating their reality, but they want
Speaker 1: to marry potential. And that is a big mistake because
Speaker 1: you have to learn radical acceptance accept this person for
Speaker 1: who they are, and if their core values aren't lined
Speaker 1: up with your core values, what about a wedding do
Speaker 1: you think is going to change that? Because all it
Speaker 1: does when you get married is really revealing more about
Speaker 1: who people are. It's revealing what's already there. And so
Speaker 1: if you don't like what's there, nothing about getting married
Speaker 1: is going to change that. It's only going to a
Speaker 1: exacerbate any problems that you already see on the circle.
Speaker 1: What did you mean, Kenny? And how did you know
Speaker 1: he was the one? I met him through a blind date? Really? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had just gone through a breakup six months prior
Speaker 1: to meeting him, and I had a conversation with God.
Speaker 1: I had a real honest conversation and I said, I've
Speaker 1: learned all of these lessons in my life at this point,
Speaker 1: what else is there for me to learn in the
Speaker 1: relationship space? I really believe it's time, And I wrote,
Speaker 1: I took a sheet of paper down and I said,
Speaker 1: within this next year, this is what I want to
Speaker 1: see happen in my life. And one of those things
Speaker 1: is I want to be my husband. And I took
Speaker 1: that sheet of paper down and I wrote that, and
Speaker 1: I go through this stage, all this this process in
Speaker 1: the book of what I did to manifest what I
Speaker 1: wanted to happen in my life. And six months later
Speaker 1: I met him and I was not just out there
Speaker 1: like every day, okay, is that is that him? Is
Speaker 1: that my husband? Like with everyone? I was just living
Speaker 1: my life. So I decided I was going to go
Speaker 1: and take some singing lessons again. I was going to
Speaker 1: put out a Christmas album and well, you got bored
Speaker 1: down to fa. I was gonna put out a kid
Speaker 1: hit single, hit single and uh. And so I started
Speaker 1: taking some voice lessons. I met up with this super producer,
Speaker 1: Aaron Lindsay, and the moment I sat down with him,
Speaker 1: he said, for him it clicked. She should meet Kenny.
Speaker 1: He said, there they would be perfect for each other.
Speaker 1: And so he set us up and we met. In
Speaker 1: the rest is history. We just went to lunch, no pressure.
Speaker 1: We sat and talked for two hours. What does the
Speaker 1: pressure like for you? And people asking all the time
Speaker 1: when are you gonna get married? When are you gonna
Speaker 1: have kids? Because you discussed that. Also, Yeah, it's hard
Speaker 1: because being single in my twenties and in my thirties
Speaker 1: and being from Louisiana. So I would go home for
Speaker 1: the holidays, and I had this one uh aunt, Freda,
Speaker 1: who would show up with her watery mac and cheese,
Speaker 1: but always, you know, questioning me and my relationships. Some
Speaker 1: names have been changed, but she could show up. And
Speaker 1: but then I started getting it from strangers, right. And
Speaker 1: if you're not careful, you can really internalize that and
Speaker 1: can make you feel like somehow you're lacking. Because no
Speaker 1: one asked me do you want to get married? They
Speaker 1: would just say why aren't you as if there were
Speaker 1: no other option for me, I get wrong. And so
Speaker 1: if you're not careful, though, that pressure can get to
Speaker 1: you and you can start to feel like, is me
Speaker 1: being single something I need to explain to other people?
Speaker 1: Is this something I need to defend. No, there are
Speaker 1: almost eight billion people on this planet. We can't all
Speaker 1: be doing the same things at the same time. We
Speaker 1: all have a different life path, a different life journey.
Speaker 1: Please stop asking people when they're going to get married,
Speaker 1: when they're going to have kids, and let people live
Speaker 1: their lives. So I talk about that in my book
Speaker 1: How do you navigate when the questioning comes for you?
Speaker 1: I will tell you this. I was never unhappily single.
Speaker 1: I lived my life. If I had waited, I would
Speaker 1: have lived half my life just existing because I just
Speaker 1: got married last year. So I just made a determination
Speaker 1: that I was going to live my best life. And
Speaker 1: guess how I met my husband going to do something
Speaker 1: that I just loved doing, going to pursue a different hobby,
Speaker 1: something that I was interested in, singing again, and that's
Speaker 1: how I ended up meeting my husband. And I hear
Speaker 1: so many other women talk about that, how they were
Speaker 1: doing something that they loved in their own lives and
Speaker 1: that's how they met the person that they ended up
Speaker 1: having this authentic love experience with. So in my book,
Speaker 1: it's really a practical guide because I did not have
Speaker 1: these huge examples of love, like I said, And this
Speaker 1: is the book that I would have wanted to have
Speaker 1: when I moved to New York at twenty five years old.
Speaker 1: I wish somebody would have given me something like this
Speaker 1: to read, as you were a whole and happy when
Speaker 1: you met Kenny Austin. When I think that's important too,
Speaker 1: because sometimes people feel like they need the other person
Speaker 1: to complete them, when really you both should be complete
Speaker 1: people when you come together to have a great relationship, yes,
Speaker 1: and that happiness and wholeness. As you know, it's a
Speaker 1: journey because as you get older, it's actually hard harder
Speaker 1: to fall in love as you get older, especially you know,
Speaker 1: being single in my twenties and thirties, because you've been
Speaker 1: through heartbreak. And if you're not careful over time, you
Speaker 1: can become very cynical about love. And you cannot be
Speaker 1: a cynic about love and expected to attract it in
Speaker 1: your life at the same time. Break that down here
Speaker 1: you talking about that in a book. I think, I
Speaker 1: think that's very important. Well, you can't be a cynic
Speaker 1: about love and expect to attract it in your life
Speaker 1: at the same time. At some point you have to
Speaker 1: be able to work on releasing the past. You can't
Speaker 1: say all men, all men are dogs. I want one
Speaker 1: exactly exactly because I went through that time where all
Speaker 1: of those things were really about fear of opening myself
Speaker 1: up to love again, and I realized that that fear
Speaker 1: wasn't serving me. All it was was poisoning my perspective.
Speaker 1: And so if you really want love, you can't have
Speaker 1: this poisonous mindset about what you really think about it
Speaker 1: based on your past. But I also don't believe that
Speaker 1: you can just, at the drop of a hat say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna free myself from my past. Nothing about my
Speaker 1: past is gonna bother me anymore. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: bring this to my next relationship. That's not realistic. What
Speaker 1: is realistic, though, it's recognizing what your triggers are and
Speaker 1: working on it. It is a process so that you
Speaker 1: don't make somebody new come in your life and pay
Speaker 1: for something they had nothing to do within your past.
Speaker 1: All we Little movie got more with Judge Faith Jenkins.
Speaker 1: When we come back, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club more everybody to see j Envy, Angela Yee,
Speaker 1: Charlemagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club was still
Speaker 1: kicking it with Judge Faith Jenkins. How does he propose
Speaker 1: here in Central Park than Paul? Yeah, and my wife
Speaker 1: in Central Park? Yeah? So who sings better then? Who? Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well come on down there. I'm dealing with a professional
Speaker 1: here who's been doing this a long time, twenty five years.
Speaker 1: But I don't sink in front of Kenny was was
Speaker 1: was therapy a requirement? Because all my sister friends and
Speaker 1: he refused the data man right now, or even take
Speaker 1: a man serious if they're not doing the work on themselves.
Speaker 1: We took things a step further. We went to pre
Speaker 1: engagement counseling. Wow, what is that? Before we got engaged?
Speaker 1: We did counseling sessions with a pastor. Because for me,
Speaker 1: I think after you get engaged and you've announced and
Speaker 1: you've told people, and then when you go to counseling
Speaker 1: or therapy sessions, it's harder for people to say, well,
Speaker 1: hold up, wait a minute, is this what I really
Speaker 1: want to do, because everybody knows there's that extra pressure there.
Speaker 1: So for us, things were going, things had gone so well,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people think, by the way, oh, well,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Are you having problems? Is that? Is
Speaker 1: that where you were going to counseling? It was the opposite.
Speaker 1: We weren't having these issues and we were we were
Speaker 1: so in sync on what our core values were. I thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: I haven't been married before. Are there questions I'm not asking?
Speaker 1: Is there is there something else that I need to
Speaker 1: delve into that I'm not so, what's the best way
Speaker 1: to find that out? Go to a professional? It was
Speaker 1: my idea. It was my idea. I said, So was
Speaker 1: he nervous when you said that? Because not at all,
Speaker 1: not at all. And I thought that's a good way
Speaker 1: to be proactive. So proactive because I do feel like
Speaker 1: in a relationship, because you won't always get along, you
Speaker 1: have to know how to handle each other when issues
Speaker 1: come up. Absolutely, how to deal with conflict in an
Speaker 1: emotionally mature way, how to deal with anger and an
Speaker 1: emotionally buture way, because that's really the key. The quickest
Speaker 1: way to ruin romance in any relationship and marriage is unkindness.
Speaker 1: I think you got to hang first. Corinthians thirteen. Was
Speaker 1: it four through eight? Up in your house? As a
Speaker 1: constant reminder, Yeah, because that's when you talk about therapy,
Speaker 1: you talk about counseling, that's what you're talking about. You're
Speaker 1: talking about getting out in front of it something. You
Speaker 1: don't wait till the wheels fall off and then try
Speaker 1: to go and salvage the relationship and go to therapy.
Speaker 1: Then wait till your house gets ribbed to get an
Speaker 1: alarm system exactly exactly, so you're out in front of
Speaker 1: it and you're doing the work in advance. And so
Speaker 1: that's what we did when we went to our pre
Speaker 1: engagement counseling before we ever got engaged, when we were
Speaker 1: talking about getting married, and then when we did get engaged,
Speaker 1: we did it with so much peace because we've been
Speaker 1: through these counseling sessions. And I remember at the end,
Speaker 1: and by the way, Kenny was like, if he weren't
Speaker 1: a singer, he would be I think he would be
Speaker 1: a preacher. I think he would be I think he
Speaker 1: would be a counselor. There's the wisdom that came out
Speaker 1: in those sessions. I remember my counselor turning because he,
Speaker 1: you know, he's been through I didn't marry somebody who's
Speaker 1: who hasn't been tested right like I have. We both
Speaker 1: had relationships that didn't work out for one reason or another,
Speaker 1: and we've both been tested in those areas, and so
Speaker 1: when we went through those counseling sessions to hear the
Speaker 1: wisdom they came out of him. I remember the pastor
Speaker 1: turning around at one point and he was looking like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what do you have to say. I heard what he said,
Speaker 1: what's your response to that? And I was like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know. But at the end, I remember him saying,
Speaker 1: I have no reservations whatsoever in blessing the two of
Speaker 1: you and moving forward in marriage A plus, and counseling
Speaker 1: we got an A plus. Fires I know you talk
Speaker 1: about triggers and red flags also in the book, So
Speaker 1: for you, what were some of those? For me? I
Speaker 1: would not date someone who had a history of infidelity.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that people don't change, right, but for me,
Speaker 1: um patterns in people's lives reveal a lot. Most guys
Speaker 1: aren't going to admit to you that they have a
Speaker 1: history of infidelity either. You have to do your due diligence.
Speaker 1: And that's a section. That's a section in the book.
Speaker 1: You do your due diligence. You do the best you can.
Speaker 1: I mean you sometimes I'm not saying turn your house
Speaker 1: into a cside lab in the back end and pluck
Speaker 1: a hair while he's sleeping, But I'm just saying, do
Speaker 1: your due diligence, if you know, But if you know.
Speaker 1: See a lot of people know, though, Angela, and they
Speaker 1: still choose to look the other way. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a red flag, but how red is this red flag?
Speaker 1: Or how exactly how far back have you going on
Speaker 1: Instagram and you're snooping? Yeah, I perused history of infidelity. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a history of infidelity is a red flag to me. Um, honesty.
Speaker 1: If you tell me you're a vegan, but I see
Speaker 1: you on Snapchat with wings, you know, it's like, just
Speaker 1: be just be honest, don't don't don't try to present
Speaker 1: yourself as somebody that you're not, because to me, those
Speaker 1: little things really do add up if you're not really
Speaker 1: anything else. Also, work ethic a good work ethic because
Speaker 1: I'm very ambitious and so when you know, though, when
Speaker 1: you just know what you're just know what your red
Speaker 1: flags are, what things are important to you. If you
Speaker 1: know you don't want to date long distance, don't complain
Speaker 1: to me about your boyfriend not calling you from Dubai
Speaker 1: if he lives in Dubai. So, Um, just knowing what
Speaker 1: they are and identifying them and recognizing them, you know,
Speaker 1: red means stop. People will not change for you. They
Speaker 1: change for themselves. And no one wants to change because
Speaker 1: you put a gun to their head. It has to
Speaker 1: come from within. Do you think your healing journey your
Speaker 1: love journey, it's part of your healing journey anyway. I
Speaker 1: don't project on my husband or on people in my
Speaker 1: life or responsibility that they have to help me heal
Speaker 1: in every aspect. I think when people come in your life,
Speaker 1: in your life, they are a part of your journey,
Speaker 1: but that responsibility really has to come from you. And
Speaker 1: when I have women in divorce court and they're very
Speaker 1: broken and they've been through a lot, and I tell them,
Speaker 1: I say, you know, the trauma that you experience in
Speaker 1: your past was not your responsibility, It was not your fault,
Speaker 1: but your healing really is. So I never wanted to
Speaker 1: project any hurt from my past onto somebody else for
Speaker 1: them to take their responsibility to heal me, because again,
Speaker 1: that power had to come from me, you know. In closing,
Speaker 1: I do want to say, sis, don't settle. Some people
Speaker 1: have only that settling down means you settle, right, They're like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's in the word settling down. So you can't have everything,
Speaker 1: and sometimes you have to just compromise and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm willing to settle. But to see how you've managed
Speaker 1: to wait to find the right person and not settle
Speaker 1: and get exceed the expectations that you had, I think
Speaker 1: as a testament to making sure that you can know
Speaker 1: that you can have it all right. Your career, your
Speaker 1: relationship and in your own timing and not have to
Speaker 1: worry about what anybody else has to say. Right, your
Speaker 1: life's journey is your journey. And I think that especially
Speaker 1: as women, we have to embrace and love what our
Speaker 1: journey is. No comparison is the thief of joy, and
Speaker 1: stop comparing our lives to somebody else. And you know,
Speaker 1: have these milestones and your happiness can't be tied to
Speaker 1: getting married, Your happiness can't be tied to having children.
Speaker 1: Your happiness can't be tied to your next TV show,
Speaker 1: your next job, because then you'll always be chasing a
Speaker 1: carrot on a moving stick. So what this really is
Speaker 1: about is learning to be happy right where you are.
Speaker 1: Look at everything that's happened in the in the past
Speaker 1: year and a half and what we've learned about life.
Speaker 1: If you don't love today where you are today, then
Speaker 1: you just missed out on a day of living your life.
Speaker 1: Because there are a lot of people who wish they
Speaker 1: could be in your shoes right now, just living. So
Speaker 1: when I talk about not settling, it really is about
Speaker 1: embracing your journey and being at peace where you are
Speaker 1: and not allowing somebody else to pressure you to be
Speaker 1: somewhere where you're not supposed to be because this is
Speaker 1: your journey, this is what you're doing, all right, well, sis,
Speaker 1: don't settle faith, Jenkins. I had given Steve Harvey a
Speaker 1: run for his money quote in the front of the yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: he's a good friend and supported my book and I
Speaker 1: really appreciate that. And all of you too joining us
Speaker 1: this morning and thank you. No, that's not your first
Speaker 1: Christmas together. Second, it's our second. Yeah, that's an amazing Christmas.
Speaker 1: Thank you duet or something for us where for Christmas?
Speaker 1: Your Christmas song? Duet? Oh you know, Angel, don't put
Speaker 1: me on the spot like that. Maybe one day, Jenkins.
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Speaker 1: positive note. Yes, the positive note of to day is
Speaker 1: simply this, never blame anyone in life. The good people
Speaker 1: give you happiness. The worst people give you a lesson.
Speaker 1: The best people give you memories. Remember that, especially during
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