1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody to the third hour 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We are 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: flying through it today and as I always appreciate, you're 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: spending some time with us. If you're just tuning in now, 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: if you've been with us for the whole ride, God 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: bless We've got our friend Cash Ptell with us now 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: former d D Chief of Staff, deputy assistant to President 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: Trump and a Trump Media Board member. Cash give you 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: to join us, man, how are you? I'm great, Bucks, 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: glad to be with you on your show. I love 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: it so I know, thank you, Thank you, sir. So 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: I know you've you've got something of an exclusive for us. 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: I need you to lay out because this goes to 15 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: trying to find the ultimate truth of just what the 16 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: deep state did in the Russia collusion mass under Trump, 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: the fight over getting to that truth. I tell everybody 18 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: what you know, what's at stake here and what's happening. Yeah, 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: thanks so much. And Buck, as you know, President Trump's 20 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: platform was transparency, and part of that transparency comes in 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: the form of, you know, providing the American public with 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: information that should never have been classified or kept from 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: them in the first place. And what he did was 24 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: on his way out of the White House, he declassified, 25 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: made available to every American citizen in the world large 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: volumes of information relating not just to Russia Gate, but 27 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: to national security matters, to the Ukraine impeachment, to his 28 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: impeachment one impeachment, to all things that deep staters, as 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, bucking government, go in there and get their 30 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: hands on and classify because they don't want the truth 31 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: to get out, because it's going to make President Trump 32 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: look good because he always supported the truth and the facts. 33 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: And that's what we have here is a whole slew 34 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: of documents and information that President Trump wanted to put out, 35 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: and the deep staters came in and got their hands on. 36 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: And here's the biggest part. They violated an order from 37 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: the President of the United States to withhold this information. 38 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,919 Speaker 1: And now it's in a bureaucratic, gymnastic dog fight between 39 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: Congress and records people, which so tell us, tell us 40 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: what happened. So this is the when Trump is still 41 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: in office, he's a sitting president, he is supposed to 42 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,279 Speaker 1: be the ultimate declassification authority and can even real time declassify. 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: I remember this when I was in the CIA. If 44 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: the president says, you know what, I'm going to declassify this, 45 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: he basically can. I mean, if there's some some process 46 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: sometimes that people will go through, But if the president 47 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: wants to go on TV and say I'm declassifying this, 48 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: nobody can override him. So what's the problem. I mean, 49 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: if a president wants people to have information that falls 50 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: under the executive branch, how does he get stopped and 51 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: who stopped President Trump from releasing this information? And where 52 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: does it stand right now in the process of getting 53 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: out there so we can sit here and talk about it. 54 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. The president is the ultimate, as we say, 55 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: declassification authority. He can go on TV, he can write 56 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: an article, and he can say declassified. And while President 57 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: Trump was still president in the United States, he was 58 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: going through reams of volumes of information with his teams 59 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: and said this is what the American people should see, 60 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: and he literally said, all of this is declassified. Then 61 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: what happens is, you know, buck from the true deep 62 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: staters that are in there too, who always block President 63 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: Trump's agenda and especially in national security matters came in 64 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: and said no, no, no, we're going to keep this. 65 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: We're going to slow roll this, We're not going to 66 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: release it, and ultimately President Trump left office. They basically 67 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: ran out the clock on them and then submitted the 68 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: records to the Holding Agency and they said, oh, these 69 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: records still have classification marketings on them. You and I, 70 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: Buckballs know that's meaningless if the Commander in Chief declassified them. 71 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: But the White House Council's Office, I believe is largely 72 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: to blame here under President Trump because they didn't take 73 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: the Commander in Chief's guidance and orders on declassification, and 74 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: the American public suffers. What is there to hide from 75 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: the American public if it involves the truth? I mean, 76 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: and that's the essence of what we're doing here. And 77 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: nobody's ever talked about this in the media. So I'm 78 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: grateful for the opportunity to get this out there. But 79 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: the bigger stories, you know, we got to put pressure 80 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: on the government bureaucrats to release this information American public 81 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: can read for themselves instead of having it fed to 82 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: them falsely and in piecemeal and leaked like we're so 83 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: used to. Whether it's Russia Gate or Ukraine Gate or 84 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: you know, January sixth or what have you, and the 85 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: American people have that right. We're hoping to get this 86 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: information out soon well our audience, gosh, thanks for coming 87 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: on and sharing that. Millions of people are hearing it 88 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: right now. I'll look forward to seeing it in a 89 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: small little, you know, subheading in the New York Times 90 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: on the eighteenth page after they put this on the 91 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: front page, you know, when the details come out, like 92 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw too, the story about hey, there's 93 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: seven hours missing of call logs on the day of 94 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: January sixth. Then it was like, oh my god, this 95 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: is Watergate on steroids, and it's the front page and 96 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: everything else, and they're like, oh, actually that's not true, 97 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: and a huge percentage of the American public doesn't ever 98 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: see the correction. How frustrating was that working in the 99 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: Trump White House? Because I've always said this, and I'm 100 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: curious what you think of this analogy. If the media 101 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: were just incompetent, every now and then, they would have 102 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: a Trump story that was incredibly favorable to Trump that 103 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: wasn't true, Right, You'd pick up the New York Times 104 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 1: and it would be like, hey, Trump saved three puppies 105 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: from drowning, you know, in the Potomac River. And then 106 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: it comes out, oh, it didn't actually happen, but you know, 107 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: they were just incompetent, and the story got on the 108 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: front page that every single story that was proven to 109 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: be false about Donald Trump was negative, right, So it's 110 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: not even incompetence. It's such an incredible bias. What was 111 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: that experience like serving in that administration and seeing that 112 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: happen time after time. But this is why you have 113 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: the best radio show in the country, because you've phrased 114 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: it better than I ever could. It is extremely frustrating, 115 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: and it's not just incompetence. I take it one level 116 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: further when I talk about it to journalists. It's disinformation. 117 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: It's feeding the American public intentionally false information in life 118 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: to advance a political narrative that jeopardizes American national security interests. 119 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: Be it the Afghan Afghanistan withdrawal, be it now the 120 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden laptop story, which we all knew to be 121 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: true but was completely reported as false. And here's the problem. 122 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: The American public, most of them don't catch up to it. 123 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: Your viewers do because they care and they're dialed in. 124 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: But months and months and months and years of information 125 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: was pedaled out by the likes of Adam Shifts in 126 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: the New York Times and the Washington Post, whether it's 127 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: Russia Gate by Hunter Biden laptop Afghan withdrawal January sixth, 128 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: and the record is corrected as you, as you noted 129 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: in some footnote buried on page eighteen of a story 130 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: two years later. The problem is that disinformation politicizes the 131 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: national security apparatus the United States. And what do you have. 132 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: You have a Joe Biden as president. As a result, 133 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: you have a border catastrophe, you have an OPOD crisis, 134 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: and you have Russia and China on the rise in 135 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: America on the decrease. And that is the ultimate politicization 136 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: of the national security apparatus. That's what I faced, That's 137 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: what I fought, and that's what we're continuing to fight. 138 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: We're we're not gonna sit here and take a knee 139 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: because President Trump isn't in office right now. We're speaking 140 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: of Cash Mattel, former DoD Chief of staff over at 141 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: the Pentagon, deputy assistant to President Trump in the White House. 142 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: And I mean Cash there, so much. I could follow 143 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: up with on Clay's question there just second ago, but 144 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: I did want to ask you having been you know, 145 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: I was obviously inside the belly of the beast in 146 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: some way at the CIA. You were at the Pentagon 147 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: and the White House. When you see who they are 148 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: defending and elevating as the White House disinformations are, does 149 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: this go even beyond I mean, I call her Soviet 150 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: Mary Poppins. Does this go even beyond what you thought 151 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: was possible for the deep staters? Unfortunately, they've proven me wrong. 152 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: It doesn't go beyond what I even thought was possible. 153 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: Because now you have the Secretary of Homeland Security going 154 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: on national TV and before Congress and saying I can't 155 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: comment on the Steel doctier and the fact that it 156 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: was dis information, but I'm going to place the head 157 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: of the Ministry of Truth a lady who said this 158 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: steal dossier was verified information that should still be relied on. 159 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: And she said that in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one. 160 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: This is a type of disinformation. This is a type 161 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: of deep state that has corrupted American politics, and this 162 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: is why no one trusts our national security program anymore. 163 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: In relies on the rapid, rapid decline and to stand 164 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: up a quote unquote ministry of truth or whatever you 165 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: want to call it, a disinformation bureau, and they come 166 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: out and they say we're not going to monitor American conversations. 167 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: You and I both know they mean they're going to 168 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: monitor American conversations. It just so happens if you're with 169 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: President Trump or a conservative, your conversations are getting monitored 170 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: and the rest are not. Cash. Do we have any 171 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: update or what you expect to see going forward with 172 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: the Durham probe itself? Obviously as it continues to progress. 173 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: What are you hearing? What do you expect to see? 174 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: What should our listeners know as it relates to that. Yeah, look, 175 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm a little biased as a chief investigator for Russia 176 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: Gates during Chairman Nunez and a form frotal prosecutor. I've 177 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: been following Durham with great detail and I put out 178 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: Durham Watch on Truth, Social under at Cash every day. 179 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: And what we latest, what we've seen with the latest 180 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: round of Durham prosecutions and filing is that the Clinton 181 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: criminal cartel has come in and admitted to breaking federal 182 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: campaign finance law by utilizing campaign dollars to hire Fusion 183 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: GPS and Christopher Steele to pump disinformation into the FBI 184 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: and froudently surveilled the presidential Canada of the United States. 185 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: But that's not all. We learned that their lawyers were 186 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: pumping tens of millions of dollars into the media as 187 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: well to send this disinformation out far and wide so 188 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: that they could take down President Trump at that time, 189 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: Canada Trump, and later President Trump. So what John Durham 190 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: has smartly done in federal pleadings almost every day for 191 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: the last two weeks is outlined the joint venture conspiracy 192 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: between the likes of Fusion GPS, Susman Elias, Christopher Steele, 193 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: the folks at the Clinton campaign, Podesta mooch, Jake Sullivan, 194 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: the current National Security Advisor, and said, you guys are 195 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: all targets of my investigation, and we're going to take 196 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: your own documents and your own emails and use them 197 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 1: against you. And he just want a big fleeting in 198 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: court yesterday that said the judge is going to allow 199 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: him to use classified and declassified information that was being 200 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: withheld from the United States government in the prosecution's case 201 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: and that's going to mean being public during the trial. 202 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: And Clinton world, I can tell you for sure, is 203 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: absolutely scared and running and they're hoping Michael Sussman takes 204 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: a plea, but I'm hoping he doesn't because there's more 205 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: than just one co conspirator this criminal conspiracy. 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Move more, live more, 233 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: and just enjoy your life more with relief Factor. Welcome 234 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I hope all 235 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: of you are having a fantastic Thursday. Encourage you to 236 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: go subscribe to the podcast. Make sure you don't miss 237 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 1: a moment. We're gonna be joined by Dana Perino here 238 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: in about ten minutes from Fox News. But I heard 239 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: this clip Buck. I don't even know if you've heard 240 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: it yet, but our friend Peter Doocey aka one of 241 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: the only people in the White House Press Corps that 242 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: is willing to actually ask questions. Pointed out that Joe 243 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: Biden said it was okay to abort babies and children 244 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:53,479 Speaker 1: as in his criticism of the Justice Alito leaked opinion, 245 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: and so Peter Doocey decided, you know what, I think 246 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: I'll actually ask some questions of Jensaki about this. Enjoy, 247 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: Why is the president talking about the judgment to choose 248 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: to abort a child. The President's view on a woman's 249 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: right to make choices about our own healthcare is well known, 250 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: well documented, well stated a working child. I understand, Peter, 251 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: but what I'm telling you is what is positioned right. 252 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: How can you guys say this is not a political 253 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: issue when the president's a statement about this talk about 254 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: getting pro choice officials selective. Did I say it's not 255 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: a political issue? Yes, you actually said some call a 256 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: political issue it is not a border Well, because the 257 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: vast majority of the public believes that this should not 258 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: that this should not be overturned. Meaning I meant to 259 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: say it's not a partisan issue, and I don't think 260 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: it is. Is it a funny, amazing Clay? They love 261 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: democracy so much that they are terrified at the notion 262 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: of people actually voting on this right. I just love 263 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: the I always wish we could just pull that tiny 264 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: little subset there where she said, did I say it 265 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: was a political issue, and he's like, actually, she would 266 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: went straight to the transcript and read exactly what she said. 267 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that is pretty incredible work. And of course 268 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: the Biden White House. Jensaki in particular, has been taking 269 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: shots at Doucey for basically a year and a half now, 270 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: because he's been one of the few people who's actually 271 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: willing to ask questions and point out the failings, especially 272 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: with Joe Biden when it comes to speaking in general. 273 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: And I just keep waiting. I mean, the perfect metaphor 274 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: for the White House press corps and also the Biden 275 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: minders was him getting pulled away from questions by one 276 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: of the White House advisers dressed as an Easter bunny. 277 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I just you can't even satirize how incomprehensible 278 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: much of what Joe Biden says on a day to 279 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: day basis is, and the fact that they have to 280 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: constantly be walking back him on basically any topic every 281 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: time he speaks to the media is again further evidence 282 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: of the degree to which he continues to fall victim 283 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: to dementia more and more every day. It's remarkable that 284 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: the Democrats never even feel the need. It seems to 285 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: explain to us, why is Joe Biden up for this exactly. 286 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just wondering. You know, we're always sitting 287 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: here talking about how he's fumbled and stumbled and sounds 288 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: like he's practically asleep when he's supposed to be awake, 289 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: or he says something that's that's absurd. They ran whole 290 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: news cycles on the need to use the twenty fifth 291 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: Amendment to remove Donald Trump from office because he was 292 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: not of sound mind, and they just I mean, the 293 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: Emperor's got no clothes, Clay, as we know, and they 294 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: just walk around and saying, look at that amazing look 295 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: at that amazing suit that he's wearing. It's fantastic. It's 296 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: it's embarrassing doctors all the time to talk about how 297 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: Trump needed to be removed from office because he was 298 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: not mentally in control of his faculties. And I really, again, 299 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: I just think this is such an illustrative point here. Buck. 300 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: There's not a single job on our radio show that 301 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: Joe Biden could do. He certainly couldn't do your my job. 302 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: He certainly could not do any of the behind the 303 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: scenes job. He couldn't book guests, he couldn't manage ad reads, 304 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: he couldn't sell advertising, he couldn't manage all of the 305 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: apparatus surrounding the biggest radio show in the country. Joe 306 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: Biden couldn't do any job at OutKick. Were in the 307 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: process of hiring a bunch of new writers and editors. 308 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: I was laughing about this because I was sharing those 309 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: those job postings the other day. And if Joe Biden 310 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: emailed in his resume, first of all, I doubt he 311 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: can email. Secondly, there's not a single job at OutKick 312 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: that he could do. Fuck. I bet that every single 313 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: small business owner listening to us right now, and there 314 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: are many all over the country, I bet that none 315 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: of them could find a job that Joe Biden could do. 316 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: I've talked about flying on the airplanes and finally, people 317 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: not wearing masks. You can't fly an airplane after you're 318 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: sixty five years old. What job other than president could 319 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: Joe Biden get hired for right now in the entire country? 320 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: It is remarkable. He's right. Can you think of one 321 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: other than politician? He's basically unhiable except for the most 322 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: powerful job in the world's or being a politician. I mean, 323 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,239 Speaker 1: you know the yeah, some version of that. You know. 324 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: The realities here are that the Biden administration. I wonder 325 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: now what the thinking is from those around around the 326 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, around the current president about running again, because 327 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: he says he's running. I mean, I think he is running, 328 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: but I'm just thinking the people around him have got 329 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: to be thinking to themselves, how the heck are we 330 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: going to pull this one off? 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Her latest book is 356 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: Everything Will Be Okay and Dana, I guess I could 357 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: just start with that one because I don't know right 358 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 1: now with the Biden administration, it feels like a lot 359 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: of things might not be okay exactly. Let's why the 360 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: title hooks you in because everybody wants to know is 361 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: she serious? But I am serious. Yes, I know that 362 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: it sometimes feels. I mean every day I wake up 363 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: in I think, surely they're going to get their act together, 364 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: and no, no they don't. Dana, First of all, it's 365 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: great to have you on the show for the first time. 366 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: You came down to Nashville. Your book is fantastic. We 367 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: had a good time. My wife and I did hanging 368 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: out with you and your husband some So you need 369 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: to come back to town soon. What has the experience 370 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: been for you? Like, because you have such great relationships 371 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: with people in the music industry as a part of 372 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: your job, what impresses you. You get to talk to 373 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people on Fox News every day, but 374 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: that seems to also translate into the entertainment industry, particularly 375 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: with country music. What do you think the overlap is 376 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: between country music and Fox News and why are those 377 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: two groups so comfortable. It's a great question. Interestingly, I 378 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: started in radio. I was a country music DJ. I 379 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: had no idea. Yeah, yeah, working I worked overnights for 380 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: minimum wage because back then, if you wanted to get 381 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: into television, you had to start in radio. So I thought, well, 382 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: I want to do my radio experience now during college. 383 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: So CACCYFM was gracious enough to let me give it 384 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: a try, and so I grew up with nineties country, 385 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: and I love nineteen nineties countries so much. Then I 386 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: was at the White House for almost eight years, I 387 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: only listened to radio talk radio, everything from Rush Limbaugh 388 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: of course to NPR, because you know, we were I 389 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: really I still believe that radio is king when it 390 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: comes to public communications. I think it's just absolutely critical. 391 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: Of course, cable news we agree as well, But I 392 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: think talk I know you do, but it really is 393 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: true if you really want to make sure that people 394 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: are hearing you, and you and you, you two have 395 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: found that you have a deep connection with your audience. 396 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: So I think that with country music being so committed 397 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: to the lyrics and the story, that is one thing. 398 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: And the other thing is that you have a lot 399 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: of people who start off in very humble beginnings. A 400 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: lot of people go through a ton of disappointment in 401 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: Nashville in particular. Right, it's just you try and you try. 402 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've met people who have written songs for 403 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: seventeen years before they actually get a hit. But there 404 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: is magic in the climb and in the stories of resilience. 405 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: And I also really admire how closely knit the country 406 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: music industry is. I know there are exceptions to the rule, 407 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: but for the most part, there's a lot of support. 408 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: And I feel the same way at Fox News. I 409 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: really love the team that we have, and so I 410 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: hope that that transmits to our viewers and to their listeners. 411 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: I hope. What do you think about the way the 412 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: media landscape may change here, Dana with I think just 413 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: today it was reported that Elon Musk is going to 414 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: be the interm CEO of Twitter, So that's that is 415 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: moving along, it feels like in a variety of ways, 416 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: but that's obviously on the social media front, but just 417 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: the with the rise of all these different digital digital platforms, 418 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: Fox Nation obviously among them, that things are changing and 419 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: people have also realized that left wing dominance of some 420 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: of these platforms. Not only is it, I think bad 421 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: from a content perspective, it could be bad for the country. 422 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: So are you hopeful that we're going to head into 423 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: a better place in the near future in terms of 424 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: having more parody on the airwaves. I am hopeful. I'm 425 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: also cautious I do remember when I was right out 426 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: Press secretary until the last day in two thousand January 427 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine when President Obama was inaugurated, And 428 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: on that day I didn't even have a Twitter account 429 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: or a Facebook account. And that's how quickly from two 430 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: thousand and nine to now, these platforms have just grown 431 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: so exponentially. I do think it's pretty interesting just how 432 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: few Americans are actually on Twitter, but a lot of 433 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: the media is on Twitter, and they're reinfortunate each other's viewpoints, 434 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: and that is where I think it got us into 435 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: real trouble when I think the best example is the 436 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story. You just look 437 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: back now, I think, how could that possibly have happened? 438 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: And now that story is aggressively in the mainstream, and 439 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: the New York Times is having to quote the New 440 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: York Post, so that is changing a little bit. I'm 441 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: hopeful that Elon Musk can bring about some change and 442 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: at least maybe some sober mindedness, and well, then we'll see, 443 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: you know, how it goes. I'm also one of the 444 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: things I talked about in my book is that social 445 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,719 Speaker 1: media can often be a drain on your energy. And 446 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: it's not going to help you in your career necessarily. 447 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: So I'm encouraging young people to kind of make a 448 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: step back and be very mindful about what they're posting 449 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: because your future boss cannot unsee that. There's no doubt 450 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: the book. By the way, we're talking to Dana Perino. 451 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: She's on the five. She's also America's Newsroom, you know, 452 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: or from Fox News. Everything will be okay. That's what 453 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about, is the eight 454 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: years that you spend in the White House. You're talking 455 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: about the different ways that you consume media. One of 456 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: the biggest challenges I would imagine, whether you're a Democrat, Republican, 457 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: whoever you're serving and whoever you're working for an administration, 458 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: is trying to figure out what matters in a day 459 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: where everything is kind of coming at you in a 460 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: fire hose effect. How much more difficult do you think 461 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: it is, no matter what job you have in politics, 462 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: to figure out what actually matters, what's actually true and 463 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: how to manage your day on a day to day 464 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: basis today than it might have been ten or twenty 465 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: years ago. That's very interesting, and I think a lot 466 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: of it comes from the top. So whoever that leader is, 467 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: the commander in chief, that person has instincts right, they 468 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: got there for a reason. And I would say, I 469 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: think that my boss, George W. Bush was able to 470 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: do that, and if he would be able to say, 471 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: all right, and we'll deal with this, but no one's 472 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: going to think about it in three weeks. So he 473 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: had his finger on the pulse. And of course you 474 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: have advisors that tell you that President Trump is very 475 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: good at it because he knew. Now I don't think, 476 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: and maybe this is just a little bit of my 477 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: own bias, I don't think that President Obama or President 478 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: Biden are very good at it at all, because if 479 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: they were, then they wouldn't have such dismal polling numbers 480 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: on the question that does President Biden care about the 481 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: issues I care about? His numbers on that have been 482 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: very low from the beginning. And so, for example, everyone's 483 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: talking about inflation. What did they spend three days talking 484 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: about this week? Student loaned it? And then rob, wait, yeah, 485 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: they're not talking about inflation. They're avoiding it and avoiding 486 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: the issue that you know, everybody is dealing with every 487 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: day because they're going to the grocery store, the restaurant, 488 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: they're filling up at the gas tank, and they're upset 489 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: about it, and they avoid that. And avoidance is not 490 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: a very good strategy, and it shows in their poll numbers. 491 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: We're speaking to Dana Perino, former White House Press secretary, 492 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: best selling author her new book Everything Will Be Okay. 493 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get a copy because I feel 494 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: like I go to bed every night thinking, oh my gosh, 495 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: what's the heck they're going to come to? These lives 496 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: are out of their minds. The commies are running amuck. 497 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: But Everything will Be Okay? Is her book? You can 498 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: get on an Amazon. Dana, you are also, like me, 499 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: a dog lover and you is it as I want 500 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: to say, it's not a Wimern or is it a Wimern? 501 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: What what kind of dog do you have? It's a 502 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: cousin to the vimer On or it's a very inversion. 503 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: So see, I'm always fascinated with this because like my family, 504 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: we have a French bulldog. I grew up with a 505 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: Boston Terrier. These are very very common breeds. How did 506 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: you come upon because I'd say probably like eighty to 507 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: ninety percent of our audience has a dog. I would 508 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: just throw that out there. I guess how'd you come 509 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: upon Vishla as the choice. I'm just curious. I've always 510 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you this, and now I'm taking my chance. Well, 511 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: it's a great story. So I met my husband on 512 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: an airplane. He's eighteen years older than me and British 513 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: and I lived in DC at the time and he 514 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: was in England. We fell in love on the plane. 515 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: Believe it or not, it is true that I was 516 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: twenty five years ago and I moved to England and 517 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: he wanted we both wanted a dog. He wanted to 518 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: get a black Lab, and I sort of cringed a 519 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, having to clean up all the shedding of 520 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: a black lab, even though I love all dogs. And 521 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: I really wanted a vimer on him because I love 522 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: those William Wegman's photographs. If you remember, they were in 523 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: all the calendars and there were books about them and 524 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: greeting cards. So we just we're in a hurry, and 525 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: we happened to be in Switzerland and Peter had to 526 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: visit a client. I got to go with them, and 527 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: we arrived and there was a three month old Vishla 528 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: and then an eight year old Bishla and a twelve 529 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: year old Bishla. So it was like we saw the 530 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: progression of what a Vishla would look like. And they're 531 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: extremely affectionate and athletic, which I really like. And we 532 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: only have one code of first so they're quite sleek looking. 533 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: And that was it, you know, we fell in love 534 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: with the breed and so we have now Percy. He's 535 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: our third. My best funny, my brother's dog is named Percy. 536 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,959 Speaker 1: M he's got a Pomeranian. Should Clay get a Vishla 537 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: for the boys? Data? Oh you know, I'm well wait, wait, 538 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: what kind of dog do you have? Cat? Yeah, this 539 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: is this is a subject, Dana. We've got we've got 540 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: two bingle cats, which are non shedding cats. My wife 541 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: is a huge cat person. And I don't I don't 542 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: think I told you this, Dana. But during the shutdown 543 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: and everything else, when the kids were out of school, 544 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: Laura assigned them my wife one day to give me 545 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: a persuasive speech on why we had to get cats. 546 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: So my you know, then kindergartener, my fourth grader, and 547 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: my seventh grader, all one after the other, made a 548 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: speech on why we had to get cats. And by 549 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: the end of their persuasive speech, Dad had been outvoted. 550 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: And so we have two cats and do you want 551 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: a dog? Uh? Look, I've got three kids, Dana. I 552 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: feel like they are like play They're they're like dogs 553 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: time ten in terms of the mess that they make. Yeah, 554 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: And you know the thing is, as we get closer 555 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: to Mother's Day, the boys don't get blamed for the 556 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: messes as often as the dad does. It seems, you know, 557 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: the apple may not fall far from the tree. But 558 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: but so our house is kind of chaotic at times. 559 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: I just have a I have a saying that I 560 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: made up that a boy needs a dog and a 561 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: dog needs a boy, and that in particular for boys 562 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: growing up with dogs, there's something about that companionship and 563 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: learning of the responsibility, and also they become more compassionate people. 564 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: I think it's probably my own theory. It could be 565 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: a Vishla puppy in the Travis household. That's in the future. 566 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: Uncle Buck's going to show up with the dog something. Yeah, 567 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: you think you're getting a stake If hundred Biden gets indicted, Clay, 568 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: you're getting a Vishla puppy, Buddy. That's how we're gonna 569 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: do this Dana. By the way, Dana, I was gonna 570 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: say sorry to cut you off, Buck, but I wanted 571 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: to mention this for you. Dana reads sports needs to 572 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: be a regular part of you and Bill Himmers show. 573 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: By the way, I saw the clip recently of you 574 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: reading sports headlines, and I gotta tell you that is gold, 575 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: and you guys need to break it in as often 576 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: as you can into the repertoire. I will let the 577 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: producer know. The reason it started is because every Bill's 578 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: very good at reading sports. But after about six months 579 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: of us working together, at one point I said, you know, guys, 580 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: I would love a shot at reading sports, and it 581 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 1: became this hilarious thing. And I don't pretend to know 582 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: what I'm doing, but I really try to give it 583 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: my all. Yeah, thank you for noticing. The book is 584 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: It's all gonna be all right. Everything will be all right. 585 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: Dana Purno is the author. Go check it out. Dana, 586 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: thanks so much for hanging out with us. 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They're bringing us in to the final segment 614 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: of the Thursday edition of the program, A couple of 615 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: different things. Tomorrow is Mother's Day weekend EVE, which is 616 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: a phrase I think I just coined, but it is 617 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: the Friday before or the Sunday of Mother's Day. Both 618 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: Buck and Mind's mothers. Yes, our moms will be with 619 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: us at the two thirty Eastern eleven thirty am on 620 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: the West Coast, answering audience questions. You know, it would 621 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: be really funny, Buck if we got in trouble for 622 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: something one of our moms said on our own show, Right, 623 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: because I got in trouble because you hate Batman. People 624 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: just blew me up. I still haven't gotten to catch 625 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: up because with the newest Batman movie. I also love 626 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: when people reach out to me the like You didn't 627 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: tell Clay that his take on the Newest Batman movie 628 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: is terrible. I'm like, yeah, I'll tell him that the 629 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: thing that I said that you think he said is bad. Sure, 630 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: uh so, so that will be happening tomorrow. It will 631 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: also serve as a handy reminder too many of you 632 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: out there, buck, You don't know this one of the 633 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: real child I didn't know this before I had kids. 634 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: Now you'll know. One of the real challenges of Mother's 635 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: Day is when you suddenly realize that you're fighting a 636 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: two fronted Mother's Day war, where for most of your 637 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: life you knew, I gotta take care of my mom 638 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: and that's happy Mother's Day and everything else. When you 639 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: get married, your kids are young, you've got to take 640 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: care of Mother's Day for them too. You got to 641 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: you gotta play for the whole team. Then you gotta 642 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: cover all the bases. These kids are not old enough 643 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: to be responsible to thank their own mom, so dad 644 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: becomes responsible for that. And Father's Day, I know it exists, 645 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: but it's nowhere near the same cultural event as Mother's Day. 646 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't. It doesn't seem to me to be at least, 647 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: so that is going on. And speaking of the opposite, 648 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: probably a Father's or Mother's Day, we haven't talked very 649 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: much about this Johnny Depp Amber Heard case that everyone 650 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: seems to be watching because it's on CNN, Fox News, 651 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: a reading time bonanza, clearly, and it's on oftentimes while 652 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: we're talking. But I was curious about what people thought 653 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: because Johnny Depp's been on the stand and now Amber 654 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: Heard is on the stand. And I put up this poll, 655 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: and I've never seen any reaction like this, so I 656 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: thought you would appreciate this, Buck, because you haven't seen 657 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: the reaction. I just said, who do you believe in 658 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 1: the Johnny Depp amber Heard case? And tens of thousands 659 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: of people have voted. I gave three options, Johnny Depp, 660 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: amber Heard, both sound awful? Okay, sixty four percent believe 661 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: Johnny Depp, thirty five percent think both sound awful. One 662 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: percent of my audience believes Amber Heard, which is kind 663 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: of unbelievable to have that little And maybe that's why 664 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: she's firing all of her PR team. But my experience 665 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: has been Buck, if you're finding firing your PR team, 666 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: it's probably a sign that you suck. It's not the 667 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: PR team's fault. If you are getting consistently not good, 668 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: that's just a step away. That's a step away from 669 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: firing your legal team in the middle of the trial, 670 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: which is clearly you don't do that when things are 671 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: going well. So I haven't watched much of that. I 672 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: just I do think there's a there's a fascination that 673 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: so many people have with Johnny Depp is one of 674 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: the richest, most famous people on the planet of whatever 675 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: it is, seven billion people. And you know, you marry 676 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: the wrong person, you make some bad choices, you get 677 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: a little too into drinking and drugs and whatever, and 678 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: you can be miserable. Man. You can be super famous 679 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: and super rich and be a totally miserable individual. So 680 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 1: it just goes to show you you could also not 681 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: have a whole lot, but marry someone great and be 682 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: super happy. So you know, there you go. The number 683 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: is I saw this study and I thought it was 684 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: pretty interesting. If you make seventy five thousand dollars or more, 685 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: and it may have to go up now, justin for 686 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: inflation in the Biden administration. In general, your happiness doesn't 687 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,919 Speaker 1: skyrocket based on making more money. Oh yeah, right, because 688 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: you can handle everything in many parts of the country 689 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: based on that. Be back tomorrow. It would be Mother's 690 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: Day weekend to Eve with both of our moms and more. 691 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys hanging out with us here on 692 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: clay buff