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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a beautiful young soap opera

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Speaker 1: star with a lead role on General Hospital, causes a

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Speaker 1: and high. In the last hours, a development in the

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Speaker 1: case against the soap opera star, one of the drivers

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Speaker 1: injured by Helly Pulos sues the lounge where the General

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Speaker 1: Little Star for a quote after allegedly plying her with

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Speaker 1: the No Comment Lounge. I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us here at Crime Stories and

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Speaker 1: on Sirius XM one eleven. The twenty five year old

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Speaker 1: soap star Beauty pulled over and charged with duy following

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Speaker 1: and now a popular restaurant and nightclub near La has

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Speaker 1: been dragged into the case with a lawsuit. The No

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Speaker 1: Comment Lounge in Pasadena is in hot water, allegedly plying

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Speaker 1: the actress with drink after drink after drink, and then

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Speaker 1: Haley Pulos, was last spotted driving to a luxury nearly

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Speaker 1: three thousand dollars a night Malibu rehab after she plows

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Speaker 1: her vehicle wrong way on the interstate. Can you imagine

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Speaker 1: the head on collision was preceded by another hit and

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Speaker 1: The dui crash seemingly has no consequences because she is

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Speaker 1: lounging right now at a Malibu rehab that offers gourmet dining,

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Speaker 1: site activities during treatment. I'mancie Grace, this is Crime Stories.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us here at Fox Nation and

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Speaker 1: Series XEM one eleven. First of all, take to listen

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Speaker 1: to our friends at ABC and KTLA.

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Speaker 2: General Hospital, Star Haley Pulos has been arrested for an

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Speaker 1: The incident happened on.

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Speaker 2: The one thirty four in Pasadena, where the CHP says

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Speaker 2: she entered the freeway into oncoming traffic. She collided head

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Speaker 2: on with another car, destroying both vehicles. Pulos was hospitalized,

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Speaker 2: where she was then arrested for DUI. The driver of

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Speaker 3: Polis say Pulos was also involved in a hit and

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Speaker 1: But excuse me. To Jim Smith, chief investigative reporter with

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Speaker 1: Dailymail dot Com, the Soap Opera Digest no offense. Their banner.

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Speaker 1: Their headline is her part has been recast. What about

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Speaker 1: the victims? Two victims I believe in one day, Jen, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think I might be able to explain why. That's

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Speaker 4: what they headlined on Nancy And it's because when they

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Speaker 4: reached out to Haley Tulos, they heard about this crash

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Speaker 4: she just said to them, I was involved in a

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Speaker 4: possibly under the influence of drugs, and had hit not

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to read it for obaidim because it's

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Speaker 1: just so it's so incredulous. It's hard to believe. She

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Speaker 1: Quote Unfortunately, I was involved in an automobile accident. What

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Speaker 1: she's either drug or high on something according to prosecutors,

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Speaker 1: new hit podcast, Zone seven, Cheryl McCollum the gall to

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Speaker 5: What Nancy, she's busy. I mean she's got to take

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Speaker 1: just trying to figure out what exactly happened. First, I

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Speaker 1: Right, did you say impact was at sixty mph?

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Speaker 4: That's this car where the victims car was traveling at

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Speaker 1: Joining me right now, Joseph Tremblight, senior forensic engineer and

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Speaker 1: accillent reconstructionist with Veritech Consulting Engineering, and you can find

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Speaker 1: him at Veratech eng dot com, Veratech Engineering dot com. Joseph,

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Speaker 1: What do all of these numbers and the speed and

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Speaker 7: And one thing I did read on one of these

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Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly my thinking. In fact, Joseph Tremblay, Senior

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Speaker 1: forensic engineer and accident reconstructionist. Why do you have to

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Speaker 7: Life well in severe accidents like this one? What ends

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Speaker 6: That occurs to the vehicle is that a lot.

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Speaker 7: Of times the occupant compartment, that the area where the

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Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you this much from what I know.

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Speaker 1: Jen Smith joining us daily mail dot com. She's not

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Speaker 1: so injured that she's not at the Malibu rehab Let's

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Speaker 1: hot tub What all did I say? Hot tub, gourmet dining, yoga,

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Speaker 8: She's not hurt, She's fine.

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Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace in the Last Days, a

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Speaker 1: surrounding a soap opera star. A gorgeous young twenty five

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Speaker 1: really their name, The No Comment Lounge is being sued

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Speaker 1: You just heard Joseph Tremblay state that you have to

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Speaker 1: not hurt, Jen Smith, I mean, the last photo I've

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Speaker 1: She has not lost her appetite.

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Speaker 4: She definitely has not lost her appetite. And no, you're

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Speaker 4: But after they searched what was you know, still intact

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Speaker 1: Tequila and pot. Wow, the car wasn't the only thing airborne. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: There is a TMZ report that claims that after she

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Speaker 9: investigating this whole thing again. She's been arrested for duy

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Speaker 1: Also a criminal charge. Okay, let me get this straight.

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Speaker 1: You know what, let me go out to you. Robert Crispin. Crispin,

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Speaker 1: private investigator, former Federal Task Force officer for the DOJ

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Speaker 1: Department of Justice with dea in the Miami Field Division.

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Speaker 1: Former homicide investigator now at Crispin Special Investigations. Find him

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Speaker 1: at Crispin Investigations dot com. Robert Crispin. She cussed out

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Speaker 10: Help me, Well, I've seen a bunch of times, Nancy.

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Speaker 11: Because I really like that this is and I do mitigation,

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Speaker 11: Am I going to get into trouble? No, she's worried

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Speaker 1: find him on Facebook and Insta Jarrett Farentina, jareded really

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Speaker 6: Just a bad actress all the way around.

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you any of those amts had to

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Speaker 1: say no good deed goes unpunishes that. Cheryl McCollum jumping in, Yes, Sam,

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Speaker 1: advise you that pulos Is stay at the Malibu Rehab

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Speaker 5: Alcohol makes you more of who you are. So if

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Speaker 5: she's worried about a four hundred dollars shirt. And everybody

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Speaker 1: According to court documents, we've just gotten our mets on

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Speaker 1: the General Hospital soap opera star. Pulos was quote encouraged

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Speaker 1: she's convicted of two duy felonies. Can you imagine driving

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Speaker 12: Nine Thursday night, Mel Gibson was arrested on the Pacific

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Speaker 1: You were hearing our friends at Extra mel Gibson ranting

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Speaker 13: Type celebrity site Radar Online reports mel Gibson, unaware he

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Speaker 15: Taking his public blowouts with the press to a whole

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Speaker 1: You're the one that.

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Speaker 9: Almost hit my wife with the microphone in the face.

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Speaker 16: The turmoil continues for troubled actress Heather Locklear. The former

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Speaker 1: jaws of life to get her out. They spotted several

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Speaker 1: mini bottles of tequila plus edible marijuana wrappers all over

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Speaker 1: the car. Cop sat the crash scene report she stunk

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Speaker 1: of alcohol, she had slurred speech and glassy eyes. The

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Speaker 1: lawsuit filed by the victim, Wilder, who was also rushing

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Speaker 1: critical condition to the hospital. She had to undergo emergency surgery.

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Speaker 1: Wilder accuses the soap opera star Pullos of quote attacking

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Speaker 1: and abusing the first responders in a rage at the

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Speaker 1: crash site, even hitting and yelling at them for touching

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Speaker 1: her expensive designer shirt. Ouch. The lawsuit alleges that, in

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Speaker 1: a quote fit of rage, Hally Pulos battered a firefighter

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Speaker 1: and yelled at him to take his hands off her

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Speaker 1: quote four hundred dollars effing shirt end quote. Wow, I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at a picture of this car. I can't believe

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Speaker 1: the people lived. The lawsuit puts it in a nutshell

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Speaker 1: despite having just caused two crashes, one resulting in serious

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Speaker 1: life threatening injuries. She cared more about her overpriced clothing

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Speaker 1: than she did about the safety and well being of

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Speaker 1: the victims. He goes on to allege that as more

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Speaker 1: evidence of her abhorrent behavior. Hally Pulos, the soap opera star,

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Speaker 1: continued to fight medical staff and was forced to be sedated. Well,

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Speaker 1: all those mini bottles of tequila and pot edible wrapper

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Speaker 1: strolling around your car isn't going to help anything. And

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Speaker 1: of course, shortly after the crash, Pulos was spotted checking

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Speaker 1: into a luxury rehab facility in Malibu. Why does everybody

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Speaker 1: have to get drunk as an attack the cop or,

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Speaker 1: in Pulos's case, the firefighter.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think at that point they can't

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Speaker 5: hide who they are because they're intoxicated. So again, when

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Speaker 5: you look at this behavior, it is a pattern they

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Speaker 5: repeat over and over. This isn't the first time they've

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Speaker 5: been intoxicated, this isn't the first time they've driven drunk.

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Speaker 5: And Nancy, the reality of this crime is we lose

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Speaker 5: thirteen thousand people a year to drunk driving crashes that

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Speaker 5: are one hundred percent preventable. And even during this episode

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Speaker 5: of your show one person will be killed due to

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Speaker 5: an alcohol related driving incident, and it's preventable now that

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Speaker 5: we have lived, we have uber, we have taxis, we

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Speaker 5: have Hey, here's an idea. Stay home. You know you

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Speaker 5: can drink all you want, you can party and have

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Speaker 5: the time of your life. Do not get behind the

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Speaker 5: wheel of a car.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 1: Jenn Smith joining me, Chief investigative reporter for dailymail dot com.

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Speaker 1: It really wouldn't be fair when we're talking about celebrities

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Speaker 1: that get drunk and have crashes, or celebrities seeding off

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Speaker 1: their own stardom that believe they can mistreat all of us,

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Speaker 1: just regular people. Jen, take a list of our cut nineteen.

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Speaker 5: I write some American.

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Speaker 17: In my hotel. I don't want service, Joe, you really

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Speaker 17: got the cut on the head.

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Speaker 14: I'll let me.

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Speaker 17: Oh, listen, can we talk me and you know we

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Speaker 17: can't talk and know theything.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going America?

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Speaker 17: Okay, taxes my arms, so.

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Speaker 5: We're not gonna have a conversation. No, you won't put

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Speaker 5: these off my.

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Speaker 1: Arms or you bet you're hearing Shia and he's not

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Speaker 1: done yet. Take a listen our friends at.

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Speaker 17: AP you have president, don't give it about you, and

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Speaker 17: you stuck in a police force that don't give me

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Speaker 17: about you. So you want to rest white people who

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Speaker 17: get who ask for cigarettes. I came up to you

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Speaker 17: trying to be.

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Speaker 5: Nice, you stupid.

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Speaker 17: I came up to you asking for a cigarette. You

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Speaker 17: don't what would ask for a cigarette if I was racist?

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Speaker 17: I was asking for a cigarette. You said no, I

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Speaker 17: said a word, and then you arrested me, you dumb me.

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Speaker 17: They got cameras everywhere, you dummy. I got more millionaire lawyers.

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Speaker 17: Then you know what to do with you, stupid. I'm

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Speaker 17: from it, you dummy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Well that's the way to get your a

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Speaker 1: cop on your side, to puss him out, call him stupid.

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Speaker 1: Jent Smith, what is wrong with Shilabuff?

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Speaker 4: I mean this is this the classic case of don't

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Speaker 4: you know who I am? And is a thing we

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Speaker 4: see constantly with celebrities. Shilahbluff, who knows what was going

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Speaker 4: on there? I mean quite clearly, that is a man

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Speaker 4: not in control of his faculties. But it's what we

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Speaker 4: see time and time again. We've heard of Shilah buf,

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Speaker 4: Alex Baldwyn, mel Gibshilon.

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Speaker 5: That's in the last.

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Speaker 4: Five minutes of this conversation. There are countless examples, and

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Speaker 4: you know, is it because celebrities get to into a

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Speaker 4: different stratosphere of success and adoration of wealth where they

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Speaker 4: think that they're above the law, potentially in situations like

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Speaker 4: this one involving Haley Pillows. The crime itself do UI

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Speaker 4: is tragically not a rare one. Do you as account

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Speaker 4: for thirty percent of all vehicle crashes in America. But

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Speaker 4: the difference here is when a celebrity is involved, they

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Speaker 4: almost seem to think that it compulsively be their fault or.

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Speaker 1: That somehow it should be excused, like in this case,

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Speaker 1: the soap opera star Haley Pulos is instead of being

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Speaker 1: behind bars at a rehab, a so called rehab in

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Speaker 1: Malibu that can cost her thirty grand. You know, the

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Speaker 1: guys you were just listening to, some of them are

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Speaker 1: technical legal term POC's pieces of crap. But it's always

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Speaker 1: a shocker when it's somebody you think you really like.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut six from WSB.

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Speaker 18: It happened at this walgreens. According to this police report,

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Speaker 18: Reese Witherspoon's husband was traveling northbound down Peatree Road when

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Speaker 18: he veered into another lane. This is where he was

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Speaker 18: pulled over. But what happened after that? Even with the

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Speaker 18: growing film scene here in Metro Atlanta has residents around

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Speaker 18: here surprised to this Department of Public Safety incident report.

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Speaker 1: Actress Reese Witherspoon was a passenger.

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Speaker 18: Her husband, Jim Toth, was the driver and suspected of

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Speaker 18: duy when pulled over twelve forty Friday morning. The report,

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Speaker 18: Stay's forty two year old tot agreed to a field

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Speaker 18: sobriety test and blew a one point thirty nine on

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Speaker 18: a breathalyzer. It was Witherspoon's actions, though, during her husband's

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Speaker 18: arrest that landed her behind bars too.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, and we all love Ree's Witherspoon. What got

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Speaker 1: into her? I'd say, a couple of glasses of wine.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen, Rayam.

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Speaker 9: What do I to say?

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Speaker 5: You to do?

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Speaker 4: I like to know what's playing on you?

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Speaker 1: A risk?

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Speaker 14: I'm a US citizen, I'm allowed to stand on American

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Speaker 14: h I want to ask you better not erect kidding

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Speaker 14: me an American to get that car. This is beyond

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Speaker 14: beyond rapping rapping.

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Speaker 1: At It brings to mind a friend of mine he's

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Speaker 1: dead now. Robert Crispin. Randy Schappani was a rookie cop.

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Speaker 1: We would have coffee when he would show up for

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Speaker 1: grand jury and I was the APD. He would tell

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Speaker 1: me all about his wife, they just gotten married, and

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Speaker 1: how they were starting a family and how in love

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Speaker 1: he was. He did a routine traffic stop and you

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Speaker 1: hear Witherspoon complaining, why do I have to get in

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Speaker 1: the car? Why can't I stand here and argue with you? Well,

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Speaker 1: the guy that pulled over Schapany grabbed a gun and

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Speaker 1: shot him in the head.

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Speaker 8: Dead.

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Speaker 1: He said, license registration, and that's the last thing he

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Speaker 1: ever said.

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Speaker 10: Sure, that happens a lot. And let me tell you something.

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Speaker 10: You know, the officer is just trying to control the scene.

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Speaker 10: And when people keep coming up and they're intoxicated and

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Speaker 10: they're trying to be aggressive and they're trying to they're

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Speaker 10: diverting the attention of the officer for his safety, and

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Speaker 10: he's turning his attention to the problem that just got

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Speaker 10: out of the car. I get it's Reef Witherspoon. I

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Speaker 10: get your celebrity, but unfortunately, bad things happen to people.

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Speaker 10: And this is why she went to jail. Alcohol just

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Speaker 10: brings out the worst behavior in everybody, and you see

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Speaker 10: it in every single one of these celebrities.

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Speaker 6: They're all intoxicated.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't all of it. Listen to the rest.

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Speaker 14: I'm now arrest.

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Speaker 5: You know my name?

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Speaker 14: You don't need to know my name? Do you find

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Speaker 14: out who I am? I'm told you how things work?

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Speaker 14: You want get out? Get up and invests? Yes, I do.

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Speaker 14: We get what we have a loss? That all the

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Speaker 14: structure justice? Really? I mean in by American Wow, so interesting.

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Speaker 1: You know, it seems like it never ends with Reese Witherspoon.

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Speaker 1: No one was hurt. And the case we're discussing right now,

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Speaker 1: there were two crashes on the interstate. One victim serious,

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Speaker 1: serious bodily injuries, and she is bitching out the fire

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Speaker 1: people because she doesn't want them to somehow harm her

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Speaker 1: four hundred dollars blouse. We wait as justice unfulse goodbye