1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show final our 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the program. As I mentioned last hour, 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: Caroline Levitt was scheduled to join US White House Chief Spokesperson. 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: She will now be with us next week Tomorrow. Our 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: friend Will Caine, who has a new show on Fox News, 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: will be with us. As we head into the weekend, 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: we are breaking down with all of you the tragic 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: plane crash in Washington, d C. The first commercial airliner 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: in the United States to go down since two thousand 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: and nine. It is, of course a major topic of discussion. 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: Cash Pateel Tulsi Gabbard, both in the midst of their 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Senate confirmation hearings. Our FK Junior has completed I believe 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: his six hours on the hot seat, and we will 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: be analyzing the likelihood of all of their confirmation. 15 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: Buck I did. 16 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: And by the way, we've got a bunch of you 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: who still went away in pilots, helicopter pilots. We will 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: try to get to some of your calls in this 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: third hour. Greg if you can, producer, Greg, if you 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: can update us here on anybody who is still waiting 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: so that we are aware of how those calls look 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: to potentially be able to get more feedback from the 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: experts in this community. I will read, Buck, this is 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: the lead story on the Wall Street Journal right now 25 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: on their head page, and I think this is what 26 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: the crux of the investigation is going to come down to. 27 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: The air traffic controller asked do you have the do 28 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: you have the airliner in sight? And then told the 29 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: military helicopter passed behind the airliner. The controller was saying 30 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: that as in the moments before this, this, this tragic 31 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: collision occurred nineteen seconds later. Is the official helicopter and 32 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: the airplane crashing together. Sixty seven lives lost, three on 33 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: the helicopter, sixty four on the airplane flight coming from 34 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: whichitah to National Airport, a airport that I'm sure many 35 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 1: of you have landed at in your lives, and one 36 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: that Buck and I were at last week when we 37 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: were traveling in and out of DC for the inauguration. 38 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: So, Buck, I think what's going to come down. 39 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: This is my prediction, based on the evidence that is 40 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: now out there and I'm reading from. 41 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: The Wall Street Journal. 42 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: I think the real crux of this is going to 43 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: be what did the helicopter pilot understand those instructions to 44 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: have meant from the air traffic controller, and was the 45 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: air traffic controller's instruction on this jet specific enough that 46 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: the helicopter pilot was aware of the jet that he 47 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: should be looking for, because I think there is going 48 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: to be some conjecture out there that the helicopter pilot 49 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: was aware of the jet traffic in the area, but 50 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: may not have been aware of clearly the jet that 51 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: ended up colliding with him, and may have believed that 52 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: he was passing behind another jet, So it could be 53 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: I think the I think the airplane pilot, from everything 54 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: that I have seen, is going to be not responsible 55 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: very much at all for what happened. Not to say 56 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: that he was perfect, but I think the argument and 57 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: investigation is going to boil down to air traffic control 58 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: instructions to the helicopter pilot. How was that understood? That's 59 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: the specific and I'm curious how you would analyze this. 60 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: The bigger picture is the argument that now has already 61 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: taken over before we even know the specific cause of 62 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: this incident. Obviously it was a tragedy, there was human 63 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: error involved. How exactly the human error is to be 64 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: allocated remains to be seen. Many people have already moved 65 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: beyond the specific incident here to the larger picture, whether 66 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: it is air traffic control quality, pilot quality, why are 67 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: you having this training exercise going on? Those are generalized 68 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: concerns that are larger in context than the specific nature 69 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: of this individual incident of tragic death. So I think 70 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: that's kind of where we are. The only thing holding back. 71 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: I think more of the usual political recriminations is we 72 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: know so little beyond the facts that you've laid out 73 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: that it's not even clear how anybody could make this 74 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: into the narrative they want for their side, Which it's 75 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: a shame that that's how tragedies are thought of now. 76 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: But school shootings, oh, you know, is it a gun 77 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: control issue? Is it a mental health issue? 78 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:00,799 Speaker 2: Right away? 79 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: We all know everyone now it can go online and 80 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: there is ongoing commentary. President Trump weighed in, a bunch 81 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: of other talking heads on TV weighed in, Clay, you know, 82 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: this might have just been a very I mean, just 83 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: a freak accident. I don't know what else. I know 84 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 3: that's not a technical term for, but there might have 85 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 3: been some miscommunication, bad situation with visibility and somebody distracted 86 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: or not clear on what the instructions were, as you've 87 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 3: laid out, We don't know, but there's nothing to suggest that, 88 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: first of all, because there were some crazy conspiracy theories online, 89 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 3: there's nothing to suggest that this was in any way 90 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: nefarious or intentional. Looks like the most tragic kind of accident, 91 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: and it just sometimes these things, horrible things like this happen. 92 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: You know, the plane crashes do happen. It's a terrible thing. 93 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 3: You want to absolutely limit it. And flying is fortunately 94 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: very very safe by the numbers, particularly in this country, 95 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 3: much safer than even when when we were you know, 96 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 3: little kids play. I mean, the plain safety records have 97 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 3: gotten better and better with passing decades. So, you know, 98 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: we'll find out more about this, but I don't think 99 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: that this is going to be I know that there's 100 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: some stuff out there. People are saying, what about you know, 101 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 3: the President brought up DEI and other people, and you 102 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 3: know the New York Times now, of course, the front 103 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: page of the New York Times is all about the 104 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: President mentioning THEI in this respect. Because we have no 105 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: idea if THEI was involved in this. We do know 106 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: the Democrats love DEI, and that's a risk to aviation 107 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: and to the meritocracy necessary for air traffic controllers. But 108 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: I don't think we can take it beyond what we 109 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: know right now, and what we know is is a 110 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: terrible accident, and we'll look at more facts as they 111 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 3: come in. 112 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: I think you're right though. 113 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 3: To me, it seems like most likely that the the 114 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: I don't like the term fault when something like this 115 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 3: has happened, but it seems like there was an error made, 116 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: most likely by the helicopter and not by the plane 117 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 3: coming in. That's what all the pilots that have been 118 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: reaching out have been telling us. You know, the helicopter's 119 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: got to stay out of the way. 120 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: Of the of the plane that's landing in the airport, 121 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: no doubt. 122 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: And here, by the way, tying into this, Tim in 123 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: Northwest Ohio has been waiting a while to talk with us. 124 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: He is a former pilot, both for fixed wing and helicopters. 125 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: We were just talking about reading from the Wall Street 126 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: Journal as it pertains to the air traffic control instructions. 127 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: You think that's probably where the tragic error occurred. How 128 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: would you analyze it based on your experience? And thanks 129 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: for listening and calling in. 130 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm an ATP for both Kilo and rotory wing, 131 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 4: still flying with an air traffic controller a long time 132 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 4: agoing the Marine Corps, and what I think happened was 133 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 4: the rotary wing guys are confused, and what the controller 134 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 4: probably should have said was something like RAT two five, 135 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 4: do you see the CRJ turn in final for runway 136 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 4: three three ahead into your left in that way specifically 137 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 4: tells him what aircraft to look for, because I think 138 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 4: they were looking off to the right of an aircraft 139 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: that just departed zero one. That's just my guess, but. 140 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: Which would And you are really specific here in the 141 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: destructions you gave. But for the layman out there, the 142 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: helicopter pilot was told, hey, look out for this airplane, 143 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: and he wasn't specifically told in your mind and your 144 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: analysis here which direction that airplane was coming, and he 145 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: may have thought he was passing behind the aircraft and 146 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: not seeing the one that was descending directly into his path. 147 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 4: Yes, I've shot that approach before and done that, and 148 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 4: it's very challenging for the CRJ crew. They're not going 149 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 4: to be looking out for aircraft. And then at night, 150 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 4: your vision about the best your vision is going to 151 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 4: be twenty two hundred, so you're not going to be 152 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 4: able to see it night flowing night vision goggles since 153 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 4: eighty two and night vision goggles give to be a 154 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 4: forty degree field of vision, and the debt perception is 155 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 4: not very good. And with all those lights there, it's 156 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 4: going to be very difficult to stick out in the CRJ. 157 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: And the other thing is, you know, everybody looks at 158 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 4: the landing light, but that's white, and MBGS see red 159 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 4: light much better. You can see tail lights on a 160 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 4: car with MBGS a lot further than you can see 161 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 4: the headlights. So there's just so many human factors that 162 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 4: are involved. But had the controller specifically called out the aircraft, 163 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 4: I think that would have helped. 164 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: How much time do you think there was between that 165 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 3: call out from air traffic control and when the collision happened? 166 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: Do we know? 167 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm always curious how long the HELO pilots 168 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 3: would have had from that communication to you know, I 169 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 3: think it's tough to get a sense. Is how long 170 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 3: before that plane is an imminent threat to the for 171 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 3: the collision? 172 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 4: It's who knows? 173 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: I mean, sorry to interrupt the Wall Street journal says 174 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: nineteen seconds, so they gained the description. No, yeah, it's 175 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: not like minutes, like nineteen seconds. And again to this 176 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: caller's point, if you are looking and you think, hey, 177 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm passing behind another plane that you're seeing, I think 178 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: there may be an argument here that the air traffic 179 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: controller could have been more specific, and also that the 180 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: helicopter pilot did not do a great job of translating 181 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: what the air traffic controller said. Thank you for calling in, sir, 182 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: I would just say, clay in a very sort of 183 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: a simplified way to think about this. If if somebody else, 184 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, if you're in like a moving truck and 185 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: you can't really see and you're having to reverse over 186 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: train tracks and you look at the wrong direction, you say, 187 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: you're good, you're clear on this side, and the trains 188 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: come in the other way. 189 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 3: That's all she wrote. I mean, that's going to be it. 190 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: So that may have been somewhat similar with the air 191 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: traffic control communication to the helo here. 192 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: That's a that's a great example. 193 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: How many times have you been in a car and 194 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: you turn to the person next to you and you're like, hey, 195 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: I can't I'm trying to look both ways. If you 196 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: both look the same way and buck, somebody says, hey, 197 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: you're good, boom. It's just you didn't both look the 198 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: opposite direction. It may be an illustration of what ended 199 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: up happening in this particular case. 200 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: Florida. You're a former Navy Seahawk pilot. What do you think? 201 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 5: It depends on what the mission they exactly were doing. 202 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 5: For the helicopter pilot. But if he was in control, 203 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 5: if he was in contact with the ATC, he would 204 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 5: have had to have the tower because he was within 205 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 5: five miles zone of he would have had to have 206 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 5: You have multiple radios inside the helicopter, so he would 207 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 5: have had the tower up for DCA, had ATC up 208 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 5: on the other radio. And he's told airplane the ATC 209 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 5: should have told him. I don't know what he's told, 210 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 5: but basically the ATC, like the previous callers said, he 211 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 5: would give him very specific look for this airplane. There's 212 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 5: a American whatever in a left hand turn going into 213 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 5: d C DCA. He'll be at your eight o'clock and 214 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 5: you look your eight o'clock. Now, in the helicopter, they're 215 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 5: side by side of the sitting So if it was 216 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 5: on the left the cop, the left guy would have 217 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 5: looked that way. It was in the right the right guy, 218 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 5: and they look at them out the front, So you 219 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 5: have two sets of eyes looking. But depending on where 220 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 5: he was, if he was up up high and wasn't 221 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 5: told he was up up higher than him, then they 222 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 5: might not look there. They'd look straight out to the right, 223 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 5: left and forward. So great call on where they were 224 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 5: told to look. 225 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 2: Thank you for the call. 226 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I got to give credit Buck to We 227 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: talk about this sometimes, but we could say, hey, we 228 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: need surgeons who are experts on working on the carotid artery, 229 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: and we would immediately have loaded lines. And you guys, 230 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: I am just tossing that out. I mean, the degree 231 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: of expertise and caller ability here is pretty extraordinary. And 232 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: I would say this, Buck, one of the larger context 233 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: decisions that I think is going to have to occur. 234 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: Why do the military exercises need to be occurring in 235 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: this region at this particular time at night. I think 236 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people are going to look back can 237 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: say hey, I understand the military pilots have to do 238 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: training exercises. It's important for them to develop skill sets 239 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: that are very necessary in the event they need to 240 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: protect the nation. But I think some people are also 241 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: going to say, hey, at night training exercises in close 242 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: proximity to a super busy airport like this, is there 243 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: a way to get these helicopters doing these training exercises 244 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: in an area that is less dense with air traffic. 245 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: I think that is going to be one of the 246 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: discussions that certainly arises from this, to just try to 247 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: limit the overall possibility of the tragedy that, unfortunately we 248 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: had happened last night. 249 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: I think I think Clay that there are a lot 250 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 3: of flights that operate around this area. I mean, this 251 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 3: is where it's there's a a a air base that 252 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: marine one operates out of here. I mean this, you know, 253 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: this is there's helicopter traffic all the time, right. So 254 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 3: I don't know how much they're going to change, other 255 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: than they might change some of the specific the specifics 256 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: of the communication to let somebody know you've got a 257 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 3: plane coming at you know, at your nine o'clock or whatever. 258 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 5: It was. 259 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: No doubt we'll continue to break this down. I'm going 260 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: to dive into and we will dive into Tulci Gabbard 261 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: RFK Junior Cash Patel. We've got some audio clips from 262 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: the hearings that are taking place there, but we want 263 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: to tell you earlier this week on Monday, in fact, 264 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: the world recognized International Holocaust Remembrance Day, eightieth anniversary of 265 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: the liberation of prisoners held at Auschwitz. Few survivors are left, 266 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: but their descriptive words are telling. 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In a moment, thick 290 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 3: Republicans are lined up and off behind these two that 291 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: we are going to see both of them get confirmed. 292 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 3: I think RFK Junior as well. Oh Clay, I didn't 293 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: see this until now. This is some breaking. So Trump 294 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: referred specifically to former Department of Transportation head Pete boota 295 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: judge whose qualifications for that job were being the mayor 296 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: of a pretty small city in the Midwest for a while, 297 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 3: and not a good mayor from what I know from 298 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 3: friends of mine who are from South Bend in the area. 299 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: But put that aside. 300 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: President Trump said that Buddha Judge was a disaster. I 301 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: believe he said a couple of times he was a 302 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 3: disaster Department of Transportation and said all he had was 303 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: a good line of bs. But the President actually said 304 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: the word, not the acronym. And Buddha Judge has responded 305 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: Clay and says that these are despicable comments. So we 306 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 3: have a Buddha Judge Trump feud in the making right now. 307 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: Well, and I think we also have to weigh in buck. Remember, 308 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: Mayor Pete is rumored to be potentially the Senate nominee 309 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: going forward for Democrats. So this is for Mayor Pete 310 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: probably a way to keep himself in the news because 311 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: otherwise he's just living in Traverse City, which, to be fair, 312 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: is a fabulous place in northern Michigan, particularly in the summer, 313 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: And so Mayor Pete this probably bolsters his claim to 314 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 1: try to be the nominee. I think our friend Tudor Dixon, 315 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: if she were to run against Mayor Pete, either as 316 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: governor or Senate candidate, would smoke Mayor Pete in the 317 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: great state of Michigan. 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Okay, a 341 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:03,479 Speaker 1: lot going on on Capitol Hill a variety of different 342 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: hearings simultaneously, all occurring as we certainly are grappling with 343 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: the awful news that has come out of the Wichita 344 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: plane crash that occurred in DC, which has overshadowed much 345 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: of these hearings. But we want to play some of 346 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: the cuts to give you a sense for what has 347 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: actually been taking place. Cut thirty Here, RFK Junior has 348 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 1: directly called out Bernie Sanders by saying, Hey, this is 349 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: really all about you just taking more money from big 350 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: pharma companies than anyone. Things got spicy here. 351 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 6: Listen, I'm going to make America healthier than other countries 352 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 6: in the world right now. 353 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 7: Will you guarantee do what every other major country does. 354 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 6: It's a simple question. And by the way, Bernie, you 355 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 6: know the problem of corruption is not just in the 356 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 6: federal ags, is in Congress too. Almost all the members 357 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 6: of this panel are accepting, including yourself, are accepting millions 358 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 6: of dollars from the pharmaceutical and. 359 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 2: Protecting their interests. 360 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 7: Oh I thought that that would go. 361 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 4: No. 362 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 7: I ran for president like you. I got millions millions 363 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 7: of contributions. They did not come from the executives, not 364 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 7: one nickel of pack money from the pharmaceuticals. 365 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 6: They came twenty twenty. In twenty twenty, you were the 366 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 6: single largest. 367 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 7: Because I received from minations from workers all over this country. 368 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 5: Workers. 369 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 7: You were this, not a nickel from corporate. 370 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 6: You were the single largest except pharmaceutical dollars from workers 371 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 6: in five million. 372 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, out of two hundred million. 373 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 3: Maybe Bernie was going to be a communist with four houses, 374 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 3: you know, given all that, it's really funny, but I 375 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: do think Buck this is the essence of the opposition 376 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: to RFK Junior. 377 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: Big four Karma is threatened by his challenge of their 378 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: corporate hegemony, and they have bought off a lot of 379 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: major politicians, including Bernie Sanders, who claims that he is 380 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: above approach in respected things like this. All right, so 381 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: that was some drama from RFK Junior, who seems to 382 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: be headed towards approval. Here is cash Patel, John Kennedy, 383 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: Republican Senator from Louisiana, questioning him. I think you guys 384 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: are going to enjoy this. This is a positive testimony 385 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: from John Kennedy. Very funny in Louisiana. 386 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 8: Enjoy my colleague and friend, Senator Durbin called you a 387 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 8: conspiracy theorist. You remember that, I do, Senator. You were 388 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 8: instrumental in revealing that the Trump Russia election collusion hoax 389 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 8: was a hoax, weren't. 390 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 9: You, Yes, Sir, I was a lead investigator. 391 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 8: Couns me, we need to get some new conspiracy theories 392 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 8: because all the old ones turned out to be true. 393 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 8: Fax matter, Senator, Yeah, I mean conspiracy theorists are up 394 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 8: something like thirty seven and nothing. 395 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: All right, So I thought that was pretty funny, And 396 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's one reason Cash is the nominee. 397 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: And then last Tulsi Gabbird Buck these are all things 398 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: that happened today. Tulsa Gabbert, testifying on Capitol Hill, called 399 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: out the fifty one intelligence agents who claimed that Hunter 400 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: Biden's laptop had all the hallmarks of disinformation. 401 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 9: Here's that the American people elected Donald Trump as their 402 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 9: president not once, but twice, and yet the FBI and 403 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 9: intelligence agencies were politicized by his opponents to undermine his 404 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 9: presidency and falsely portray him as a puppet of Putin. 405 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 9: Title one Offiza was used illegally to obtain a warrant 406 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 9: to spy on Trump campaign advisor carter Page, using a 407 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 9: Clinton campaign funded false dossier as their so called evidence. 408 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 9: Biden campaign advisor Tony Blinken was the impetus for the 409 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 9: fifty one former senior intelligence officials letter dismissing Hunter Biden's 410 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 9: laptop as disinformation, specifically to help Biden win the election. 411 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 9: Former d and I James Clapper lied to this committee 412 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 9: in twenty thirteen denying the existence of programs that facilitated 413 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 9: the mass collection of millions of Americans phone and Internet records, 414 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 9: yet was never held accountable. Under John Brennan's leadership, the 415 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 9: CIA abused its power to spy on Congress to dodge oversight, 416 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 9: lied about doing it until he was caught, and yet 417 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 9: has never been held responsible. Under Biden, the FBI abused 418 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 9: its power for political reasons to try to surveil Catholics 419 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 9: who attend traditional Latin mass labeling them as quote unquote 420 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 9: radical traditionalist Catholics. Personally, just twenty four hours after crisize 421 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 9: Kamala Harris and her nomination, I was placed on a 422 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,479 Speaker 9: secret domestic terror watch list called Quiet Skies. Sadly there 423 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 9: are more examples. The bottom line is this, this must end, So. 424 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: Buck, what I would say about all three of those 425 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: clips that we just played in all three of the 426 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: individuals testifying today, RFK, Junior, Cash, Pttel Tulci Gabbard. They 427 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: are outsiders that are not in the traditional power dynamic 428 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: of Washington, disruptors, and they're being attacked by people who want, 429 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: to a large degree preserved the status quo. Is that 430 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: an accurate take from your perspective. 431 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that Tulsi. 432 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 3: What upsets so many of the people within the system 433 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 3: about Tulsi is that she doesn't have this allegiance that 434 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: comes from being within this community for such a long 435 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 3: period of time, which generally I think has been a 436 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 3: precondition for getting one of these jobs. It's a management job. 437 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 3: It's a leadership and management job to be the DNI. 438 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,959 Speaker 3: And James Clapper was the DNI before, who is a 439 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 3: buffoon and a partisan hack. So I don't care what 440 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 3: his resume is. He showed who he was in that 441 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 3: role as the Director of National Intelligence. He was absolutely, 442 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 3: absolutely horrible for the country. And same thing with Brennan, 443 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 3: who was a career intel guy and had been Obama's 444 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 3: counter terrorisms are in the White House and had come 445 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: from the intelligence community before then I agree with those 446 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 3: who said they don't like the name intelligence community. It 447 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 3: makes it sound like we sit around or just you know, 448 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 3: bobbing our tea bags and talking about what's going on. 449 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 3: You know, Oh, there's some people having noisy parties lately, 450 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 3: like the ICE whatever. I think that it's gotten way 451 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 3: too First of all, it's way too large, it's far 452 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: too bureaucratic, it is far too slow. It underperforms, it underdelivers, 453 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: it's incredibly expensive, and now it has become a threat 454 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 3: to the republic itself because it has been used as 455 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 3: a weapon repeatedly against a one half of the country's 456 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 3: political wishes, with the Trump administration and the Trump and 457 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 3: the Trump first term and second term. So I think 458 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 3: that Tulsi pointing out the fifty one intelligence officers, I 459 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 3: mean that was, hey, guys, you can trust us. We're 460 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: telling you the truth. And they all lied and they 461 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 3: knew they were lying, and there should be consequences to 462 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 3: that for the broader bureaucracy. But also I think those 463 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: individuals should all hang their heads in shame. Of course, 464 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: the Democrats liked them because they serve their purposes in 465 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 3: twenty twenty, but it's interesting to see people Clay propose 466 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 3: that Tulsi Gabbard would be incapable of doing this or 467 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 3: not the right person to do this, and you state 468 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 3: of yourself, what evidence is there that the people wi 469 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 3: have had this job before, under both the Biden and 470 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 3: Obama administrations should have been in charge of anything at all, 471 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 3: and they got confirmed. So I don't see this as 472 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 3: an issue. Look, she's gonna have some challenges because she 473 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 3: doesn't know. I mean, I have five or six more 474 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: years in the intelligence community than Tulsa does, right, so 475 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: I'm a radio host. She doesn't know what she's getting 476 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 3: into with that at some level, because you can't know 477 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 3: till you're there, and she's she's going to be a 478 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 3: total novice in that respect. 479 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: But she was in the military. She's been in the 480 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: military for decades. I mean, she has an. 481 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 3: Understanding of large bureaucracy, and I think that she also 482 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: to anybody who's being fair in mind, you can come 483 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: at this with the perspective of someone who has not 484 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 3: been like an avowed trumper or right winger or you know, 485 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 3: hardcore conservative. 486 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 2: She was a. 487 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 3: Democrat running for president what in twenty twenty, I mean, 488 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 3: she hoped to. 489 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: Be running against Trump in twenty twenty. That's what's so 490 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: staggering about all of this stuff is she ran for 491 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: the nomination in twenty twenty. She could have been the 492 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: Democrat nominee to go against Trump. 493 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 2: In theory, this. 494 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 3: Whole thing is an experiment to bringing until very recently 495 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 3: Democrats into your administration at a very high level. It 496 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 3: is Trump's decision to make, and I back him on. 497 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 3: You know, he just won this election. He went through 498 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 3: all the he ran the gauntlet, won this election, and 499 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 3: has earned the right to have the team that he wants. 500 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 2: It is going to be interesting. 501 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 3: I mean, some of these picks are not the picks 502 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 3: that I think a lot of people who are lifelong 503 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 3: Conservatives would have necessarily gone to. But you want disruption, 504 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 3: you want to change the status quo, you want people 505 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 3: to shake things up. 506 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 2: You need a different approach. 507 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: How about the fact, Buck that if they get shot down, 508 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: it's going to be because two former Democrats in RFK 509 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: Junior and Tulsea Gabbard were uniformly opposed by Democrats and 510 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: all of the Republicans didn't line up behind them. Right 511 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: Like this to me, when you just look at this, 512 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: if you're a totally rational human being and not just 513 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: an anti Trump zelot. How can there not be ten 514 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: Democrats that will support seventy four year Democrat RFK Junior 515 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: and all of our life basically Democrat Tulci Gabbard. 516 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 3: I'm not talking about most is what I'm just a few. 517 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 3: This is what I was getting at yesterday. I think 518 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: that they are particularly bitter at those that they view 519 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 3: as having been in the fold, inside the tent, who 520 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 3: have now gone to the other side. Right, So I 521 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 3: think they're in some ways. I think Tulsi actually, in 522 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 3: most ways, I think Tulsi and rfk's former Democrats is 523 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 3: nothing but held against them by Democrats. 524 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 7: Right. 525 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 3: It's they're viewed. They're not viewed as, oh, you're more 526 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 3: reasonable because you've agreed with By the way, I think 527 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 3: RFK still agrees with Democrats and a lot of things. 528 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 2: Put that aside. 529 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 3: Don't yell at me. It's just the truth. But they 530 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: view it as you switch teams entirely. Therefore you're a trader, 531 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: not oh I can see eye to eye with you 532 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 3: on some stuff and you're not a dogmatic right winger. 533 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 3: Like for Democrats, it's all about power and they've gone 534 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 3: to help Trump. You're helping Trump, You're helping power to 535 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 3: the other side. Unacceptable. That's all they care about. 536 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: All I care about, Buck in the short term is 537 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 1: when people some money on prize picks, you're gonna get 538 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: to make a pick on the super Bowl. 539 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, I gotta get a pick in here, Okay, 540 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: because I'm one for one. 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I want to give credit to UH 596 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: to our buddy who wrote this in and said EP 597 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: Scott probably did not expect to hear about bodies getting 598 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: pickled in the eighteen hundreds on the program today, But 599 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: Scott said, and I don't know, I don't remember the tape. 600 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: I think I got this right, but he said, Admiral 601 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: Nelson was killed at the Battle of Trafalgar. His remains 602 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: were put into a cask of rum to preserve it 603 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: for proper burial in England. The cask was put into 604 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: the general hold. The sailors tapped into the cask to 605 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,959 Speaker 1: drink the rum. Henceforth, the rum was named Nelson's Blood. 606 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: That's the most British thing I've ever heard. The famous 607 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: admiral in a cask of rum and then the sailors 608 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: drink it. I mean, can we just eat The British 609 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: guys listening like, oh yeah, that's really British, you know, 610 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: like they're not going to deny that. And now one 611 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: of the most famous places in London is Trafalgar Square. 612 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: Some of you may have visited there. 613 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: They have the statue of Admiral Nelson in the center 614 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: of Trafalgar Square. And I think I connected him to 615 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: Santa Anna, who it must be rum or something that 616 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: his leg was preserved in that he would go visit 617 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: after his leg was amputated. So there you go a 618 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: bunch of knowledge there, But the VIPs. This is a 619 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: great example a lot of history nerds in this audience book. 620 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: Whatever you or I talk about immediately people react to 621 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: it and delugas even when it's something super specific like that, which, probably, 622 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: to be fair, is not something super widely known. 623 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 3: The good news is that all of you will never 624 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 3: let us get away with saying a single historically inaccurate 625 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 3: thing on this show. Ever, it's true that we don't 626 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 3: have to worry about a real time fact checker because 627 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 3: all of you, one of you will be like, excuse me, 628 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 3: you said seventeen ninety nine and you actually meant seventeen 629 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 3: ninety eight because and fill in the blank, and you 630 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 3: say to yourself, wow. You guys do a lot of 631 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 3: reading and you listen very closely, which we appreciate so. 632 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: As we well know, because I can't pronounce anything correctly, 633 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: and trust me, every time I mispronounce it's any word, 634 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: I get emails about it. 635 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 3: I'm just going to keep on throwing a lot of 636 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 3: cash in your direction. As we talk about cash. Patel's 637 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 3: hearing tomorrow, cash like money, cash, All right, we're going 638 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 3: to get that one. That one's easy to keep going. 639 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: Well, I think that's actually the way it should be pronounced, 640 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: not to all good look at this, I think in 641 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: the yeah, I mean, we got Indian community out there listening. 642 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: I think it's actually cash Patel, and he has pronounced 643 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: it cash because it is a cooler kind of name. 644 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: But Kash, I think traditionally in the Indian community would 645 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: actually be cash. I've got, for instance, a really good 646 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: uh law school friend named a Kash, and I think 647 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: that that's the way it would actually be pronounced. Now, 648 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: is cash a cooler way to pronounce it? Probably, but 649 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: that would be spelled C A s h as in 650 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: cash gosh. 651 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 2: Eventually, maybe I'll get it right. 652 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: Maybe when he gets confirmed, we'll have him on I 653 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: will ask him if he thought that that pronunciation was cooler, 654 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: and that's how it came to be. 655 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 3: I mean, it's good to know that if Senator Travis 656 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 3: were up there on Capitol Hill, he would give Cash 657 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 3: a long exposition on the various ways. 658 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 2: That he could choose. 659 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 3: As a member of the South Asian diaspora into America 660 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 3: and as an American to pronounce his name. 661 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: How about me maybe knowing the way that the South 662 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 1: Asian community would actually pronounce that. I think I deserve 663 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 1: credit given that I mispronounced everything. I actually think I'm 664 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: pronouncing that one correctly and he's changed the pronunciation. Play 665 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: getting a lot. 666 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 3: Of high fives from our Indian American listeners, So thank 667 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 3: you so much for that, and great show coming your 668 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 3: way tomorrow. 669 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 2: Everybody,