Speaker 1: So what are we doing right now? Because I feel
Speaker 1: like people got into this scared mentality of like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, I have to hold so tight onto what's
Speaker 1: mine and protect mine. And now it's like, that's not
Speaker 1: that's not that's not how we flourish, that's not how
Speaker 1: we thrive. And so with someone who has a tight
Speaker 1: grip on their life, they're like, well, I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't do this, Carlos, because you don't understand. My life
Speaker 1: is too hard. Like if I if I lose grip
Speaker 1: of anything that I have, or if I, like, if
Speaker 1: I lighten up, or if I try to like get
Speaker 1: outside of myself, it's all going to fall apart. Like
Speaker 1: how someone who's so caught up in the scarcity mentality
Speaker 1: and the fear mentality, how how does one start to
Speaker 1: start to chip away at changing that? And I know
Speaker 1: this is your book, so okay, let's do this. How
Speaker 1: to be Human? How do you chip away at the
Speaker 1: old limiting beliefs that do not serve us as humans
Speaker 1: and us as a collective. How do we chip away
Speaker 1: at these fearful judging Hey, hey, where we actually like
Speaker 1: sometimes hate each other and don't even know each other?
Speaker 1: How do we how do we shift that mindset and recalibrate?
Speaker 1: And I know you talk about that in your book
Speaker 1: How to Be Human, But like, what are some like
Speaker 1: ways to just start stepping into that? Yeah? Uh, start
Speaker 1: looking in the mirror more often than you're looking through
Speaker 1: your telescope. Right, So it's like, okay, what is I mean?
Speaker 1: I go through it in my book, like what is
Speaker 1: the bias I have in my life? Like start asking
Speaker 1: you and again this isn't I'm going to tell you
Speaker 1: these things. But this isn't easy. I know people are
Speaker 1: gonna be like, well, Carlos, that's not easy. I want
Speaker 1: something easy. This isn't like like it's not you know,
Speaker 1: but it is, um it is. It is going to
Speaker 1: be so important to self reflect on exactly who we are.
Speaker 1: So like, see your own bias biased me is like
Speaker 1: what I don't like or what no bias biases? Is?
Speaker 1: Uh something you believe about somebody else that isn't you
Speaker 1: based on your own experience without like actually getting to
Speaker 1: know So again, for instance, very you know I as
Speaker 1: a black guy in the South, right, Like every time
Speaker 1: I've been called the N word in the last few years,
Speaker 1: you know that I've lived here in very traumatizing experiences, Dave.
Speaker 1: It was every single time it was by like an
Speaker 1: old white dude with like an American flag on their
Speaker 1: bumper sticker or something. And so what what did that
Speaker 1: do in me? It created a bias in me towards
Speaker 1: old white dudes with life flags with the American flags, right,
Speaker 1: And so that is a true bias in me. But
Speaker 1: is that true about old dudes, most old dudes with
Speaker 1: white American No, Like, that's not that's not true about them.
Speaker 1: But it's a bias that was created because of true experiences.
Speaker 1: So you know what I've gotta do is I've gotta
Speaker 1: look that bias in the face and say, Okay, this
Speaker 1: was true about six guys, but it's not true about
Speaker 1: the rest of them, and I've got to break that.
Speaker 1: I gotta break that. And so I just think if
Speaker 1: we start looking at our own biases and we all
Speaker 1: have them, I've got them, you've got them, everyone listening
Speaker 1: to the podcast has them, and start calling them out,
Speaker 1: facing them in the mirror. I think we're gonna start
Speaker 1: to deconstruct some of those. But how do you protect yourself?
Speaker 1: Because here it is, you've had six experiences with old
Speaker 1: white dudes with American flags who called you the N word.
Speaker 1: I mean that's something to make yourself want to be
Speaker 1: protected against. And I feel like that that can be
Speaker 1: Like the issue is like, how do you Yes, there's
Speaker 1: a bias, rightly so, but how do we not have it?
Speaker 1: How do you not walk into that? Well? You have
Speaker 1: to protect you have to protect your I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: don't stand on issues. I don't stand an issue. To
Speaker 1: walk with people doesn't mean I'm going to place my
Speaker 1: mental health uh in a in a in a bad place.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean I'm gonna go like like like, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to go find a KKK rally tomorrow and
Speaker 1: walk in and go like, hey guys, my name's Carlos.
Speaker 1: I'm ready to be your friend, right Like, No, there's
Speaker 1: protections that have to place around my my mental health
Speaker 1: in order to do this right. So we have to
Speaker 1: be smart. There's gonna be people that you're not gonna
Speaker 1: be able to walk with. There's gonna be people that
Speaker 1: you're not going to be able to stand with. There
Speaker 1: there will be, but there will be people that you can.
Speaker 1: So again, just because you can't with one person doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you throw the baby out with the bathwater. Find
Speaker 1: those that you can. There will be ones that you
Speaker 1: are able to stomach. Right, me and my best friend
Speaker 1: on planet Earth stand on completely opposite sides of the
Speaker 1: aisle politically, okay, like vehemently opposite sides, Like we we
Speaker 1: really disagree on a lot of important things. Really jacked
Speaker 1: us up our friendship. So you know what I said,
Speaker 1: We're going to find something to root together with together on.
Speaker 1: So we bought Nashville SC Soccer tickets and we go
Speaker 1: on when Nashville st Is playing, we go to Joda's Park.
Speaker 1: We stand next to each other and we high five
Speaker 1: and we scream and we root for Nashville s C.
Speaker 1: And what is that doing? We found something that we
Speaker 1: can cheer for together and it's healing us. So I'm
Speaker 1: walking next to him, I'm walking with him. Walking with
Speaker 1: somebody doesn't mean changing their mind on something. It just
Speaker 1: means walking with them. So how are we going to
Speaker 1: seek this into the heads of the politics, like the
Speaker 1: people who are actually running? And I know you have
Speaker 1: Sharon Sesso as you are. I don't even know her
Speaker 1: real name, but Sharon Sesso who is to be? I like,
Speaker 1: don't follow a lot of news or media because I
Speaker 1: don't like hearing all of the biased opinions out there.
Speaker 1: But Sharon is the one I follow because I feel
Speaker 1: like she gives the best factual information across the board
Speaker 1: about what is happening in politics. And she knows everything
Speaker 1: about history and laws, and you brought your forward, which
Speaker 1: is amazing. So like, women, is it like people like
Speaker 1: her that is going to just slowly change the higher?
Speaker 1: I think? So I think, you know, um, I think
Speaker 1: it's who we vote for, right, so like like like
Speaker 1: we're actually in charge. So like what if you can't
Speaker 1: like what if you can't stand with either one because
Speaker 1: you're like that they both have Like that's where I
Speaker 1: like this Mark rom Like there's like such downfalls to
Speaker 1: like all of it, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know there. I don't think there's gonna be a perfect solution, um,
Speaker 1: and there's definitely not a perfect party, you know, but
Speaker 1: but you have to I just think if we can
Speaker 1: put more passionate, empathetic people that even that may vehemently
Speaker 1: disagree with each other. But I mean I look at
Speaker 1: that like nineteen eighties, like Tip O'Neil and Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 1: Literally the Speaker of the House in the president United States,
Speaker 1: vehemently opposing different political parties. Were best friends, like like
Speaker 1: their kids called each other uncle's right. Like so it's
Speaker 1: like it's possible to humanize each other while you still disagree, right,
Speaker 1: And that's the part that we're missing. And so that's
Speaker 1: what you're really trying to remind us all that, Like
Speaker 1: we don't just have to hate each other, like literally
Speaker 1: we can totally agree, but like I feel like that's
Speaker 1: what's happened, Like we just hate each other. It's like
Speaker 1: we disagree and then it just hate and then not
Speaker 1: only just hate us, like that person needs to like
Speaker 1: go down, you know. Yeah, that's true, and we can't.
Speaker 1: We can't live it that way