1 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: From Meat Eaters World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This 2 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: is Cow's Week in Review with Ryan cow Klah. Here's 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: cal what is the national bird of the United States? 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: If you said bald eagle before Christmas Eve twenty twenty four, 5 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: you'd have been wrong. Prior to that date, we didn't 6 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: have a national bird. But thanks to Senators Amy klobash, 7 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: are Mark, Wayne Mullen, Cynthia Loomis, and Tina Smith, this 8 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: obvious oversight has been corrected. These four senators sponsored a 9 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: bill passed by Congress and signed by President Biden that 10 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: officially declares the bald eagle to be America's national bird. 11 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: The bald eagle was adopted as the coat of arms 12 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: for the United States Great Seal in seventeen eighty two 13 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: and has been the unofficial national bird of the United 14 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: States ever seen. You might wonder why Congress is spending 15 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: its time making things official, but these symbolic designations do 16 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: have a conservation purpose. When states or local governments make 17 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: a bird, tree, or plant an official symbol, it generates 18 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: interest and attention, which can in turn generate resources for conservation. 19 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: For example, after the bald eagle became the national bird. 20 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: A South Carolina newspaper published an article with the headline 21 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: quote Biden declares bald eagles US national bird. The raptors 22 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: are still imperiled in South Carolina. That article and the 23 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: public awareness it generated about how eagles are still imperiled 24 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been published if Congress hadn't passed this bill. 25 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: So the next time you see a bald eagle soaring 26 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: across a blue sky, or perching a tree, or you know, 27 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: if you're up in Alaska sitting on a dumpster, gaze 28 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: upon its majesty with pride as you contemplate the strength, courage, 29 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: and conservation success it represents as our newly minted national 30 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: bird and possibly the number one carry an eater in 31 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: your heart. This week we've got public lands, grizzer bears, legislation, 32 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: and so much more. But first I'm going to tell 33 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: you about my week, and my week has been a 34 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: whirlwind as per usual. First, big thanks to the Arizona 35 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: Chapter of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers for hosting the North 36 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: American Board of BHA for the annual retreat. Everything was awesome, 37 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: killer country, great weather, awesome people, new species, they got 38 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: to meet, all you folks who are volunteering tirelessly and 39 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: kicking butt while you're doing so. Great discussions, great energy. 40 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: Love to see it happen, and keep it up. We 41 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: appreciate you. As for the new species down there in Arizona, 42 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: we got to hunt for part of the day Manazuma 43 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: or Merns Quail Merns being the naturalist that identified the 44 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: species and natural This guy will make you blush. Merns 45 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: was a New Yorker who got a medical degree and 46 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: joined the Army in the late eighteen hundreds. He was 47 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: stationed a bunch of places, but traveled to far flung 48 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: locales like Guam, which you can imagine in the turn 49 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: of the century was a bit of a trip. Eventually, 50 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: he was appointed medical Officer to the International Boundary Commission, 51 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: that boundary being between Mexico and the United States. In 52 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: nineteen oh seven, he published Mammals of the Mexican Boundary 53 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: of the United States. In nineteen oh nine, he retired 54 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: from the Army with the rank of lieutenant colonel. Then 55 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: Theodore Roosevelt invited Merns to accompany the Smithsonian Roosevelt African 56 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: Expedition as a naturalist, which heck of a tip of 57 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: the hat there. He was doing that from nineteen eleven 58 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: to nineteen twelve. He scientifically described the Tita thrush, the 59 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: Appo sunbird, the boren cisticola, the Chewahwan grasshopper mouse, the 60 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: rufous headed Taylor bird, among others. Eventually, he died in Washington, 61 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: d C. At the ripe old age of sixty sixty 62 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: years old. That's a lot by sixty. That's offty old merns. 63 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: And now for the quail part. What's interesting about this 64 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: little comparatively non vocal bugger, the merns quail, is that 65 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: they use their long talons to dig and eat tubers. 66 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: They got big feet. And when I say dig, we 67 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: found holes like six to eight inches deep in some areas. 68 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: And this is like dry, hard, rocky soil, and sixty 69 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: eight inches may not seem like a lot to summy, 70 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: but when you're sixty eight inches tall like the merns quail, 71 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: that's a big hole. The birds I took home are 72 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: plucked and sitting in a gentle brine before I lightly 73 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: roast them. I'll let you know how that goes. Incredible 74 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: camouflage on the merns quail, it is just wild, wild, 75 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: how they blend in to that grass and of course 76 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: you know dry, dusty, hard scent conditions for the dogs. Yeah, 77 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: it is a wonder that you can find those things. 78 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: Probably wouldn't do it without a dog. What else, As 79 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: previously talked about, states are in session, go to the 80 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: askcalpage at the mediat dot com to find out which ones. 81 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: Randall Williams and I hustled up to Helena, which of 82 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: course is Montana's capital, to listen in and offer testimony. 83 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: Last week. We got particularly interested in HB one thirty nine, 84 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: which is a bill that was put together to address 85 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: the idea that mule deer rut hunting in our state 86 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: could be closed at some point. I testified against that one, 87 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: as Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks has the ability to 88 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: season set with public input already, And if you listen 89 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: to this podcast, I just prefer regulation over legislation. Fishing 90 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: game agencies need to be as nimble as possible. I 91 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: got to tip the hat to Representative Hinkle, who you know, 92 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: put a lot of work into that thing. The vote 93 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: is coming up like immediately after this podcast gets record, 94 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: so I'll have to update you next week on how 95 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: that goes. But guys, Head's not in the wrong place. 96 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: I just think the state's already got this one covered. 97 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: We just don't need a law for it. Let me 98 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: know what you think, and more importantly, please write in 99 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: and let me know what is going on in your state. 100 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: Many of you already did, so let's get to it. 101 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: Going right over to the public land desk, here's some 102 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: positive news to start your week. The Supreme Court has 103 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: declined to hear a lawsuit brought by the state of 104 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: Utah that would have forced the federal government to dispose 105 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: of tens of millions of acres of public land. We 106 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: covered this story on several episodes, but we did a 107 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: deep dive recently. In episode three point thirty two. Utah 108 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: was asking the Supreme Court to force the Bureau of 109 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: Land Management to dispose of so called unappropriated land. This 110 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: would mean that in Utah alone, the BLM would have 111 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: to sell a whopping eighteen and a half million acres, 112 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: and it's not clear whether that land would fall to 113 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: state or private control or just need to be as 114 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: it says in the lawsuit disposed of as in sould, Utah, 115 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: along with several other Western states, were asking the Supreme 116 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: Court to let them skip all the lower federal courts 117 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: and go straight to the top. But in a decision 118 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: release just last week, the justices said not so fast. 119 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: They didn't comment on the merits of the case or 120 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: explain their reasoning. They simply refused to take the case. 121 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: This is great news for public land advocates, but the 122 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: fight is far from over. Utah and its allies can 123 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: refile their case with the lower federal court and try 124 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: to work their way back up to the Supreme Court, 125 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: or they can try to work with the incoming Trump 126 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: administration to hand over a federal public land. In a 127 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: joint statement released last week, Utah said, the incoming Trump 128 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: administration shares quote our commitments to the principle of multiple 129 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: use for these federal lands and is committed to working 130 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: with us to improve land management. You got to pay 131 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: attention to the words here, folks. This is not about 132 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: land management. This is about the sale of land. Management 133 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: is just like a red herring argument that has nothing 134 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: to do with the case. On top of that, the 135 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: Trump administration has said on multiple occasions that they aren't 136 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: interested in selling the unbelievable real estate we co own. 137 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: It's just too darn valuable. We've won the first battle, 138 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: but we need to stay vigilant. As always, we'll keep 139 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: you in the loop. Moving on to the grizzer bear desk. 140 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: Last week, the US Fish and Wildlife Service proposed a 141 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: new rule that would dramatically change how grizzly bears are 142 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: managed in the United States. The proposal comes in response 143 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: to several lawsuits by Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming, whose governors 144 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: were asking that the species be removed from the Endangered 145 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: Species list. Led by Director Martha Williams, the Fish and 146 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: Wildlife Service denied these requests. Instead, the Service wants to 147 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: get rid of the six population segments it had previously 148 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: used to manage the bears, and will now aim to 149 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: recover grizzlies within one giant segment that encompasses all of 150 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: Washington State, as well as most of Montana, Idaho, and Wyoming. 151 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: If all that sounds like much ado about nothing, let 152 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: me explain why this decision is raising the blood pressures 153 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: of everyone, from the Center of Biological Diversity to our 154 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: own governor here in Montana, Greg gen Forte. As we've 155 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: covered several times on this podcast, grizzly bears are broken 156 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: up into six distinct population segments Northern Cascades in Washington, 157 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: Selkirk and Cabinet Yak in northern Idaho and Montana, Northern 158 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: Continental Divide Ecosystem in the northwest Montana, bitter At in Idaho, 159 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: and Greater Yellowstone in southern Montana and northwest Wyoming a 160 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: little bit of Schmidga Idaho there too. There are currently 161 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: a bunch of bears between seven hundred and one thousand 162 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: in both the Greater Yellowstone and Northern Continental Divide. That's 163 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: according to the Fish and Wildlife Service. There are about 164 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: sixty bears in the Cabinet Yak and about forty bears 165 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: in Selkirk, but the other recovery areas don't contain any 166 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: breeding populations, again, according to the US Fish and Wildlife Service. 167 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: For the last decade or so, Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho 168 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: have been pushing for the bears to be removed from 169 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: the Endangered Species list in Yellowstone and the Northern Continental Divide. 170 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: They argue that the populations here are strong and growing, 171 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: some would say too strong at this point, and there's 172 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,479 Speaker 1: no reason that they should still be listed as endangered. 173 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: Taking them off the ESA. In these two recovery zones 174 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: would allow the states to manage the species as they 175 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: do every other non endangered species in their jurisdictions. However, 176 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: if the Fish and Wildlife Service succeeds in eliminating these 177 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: population zones and begins managing all grizzlies in the lower 178 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: forty eight under the same umbrella, you can kiss that 179 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: argument goodbye. Now. Instead of two populations looking strong and 180 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: healthy while the other four still need protection, the map 181 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: looks practically empty. The new single population segment extends well 182 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: beyond where grizzly bears currently live, and the agency doesn't 183 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: offer a population goal for when and this giant new 184 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: population boundary counts as recovered. In fact, they argue that 185 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: the strength of the populations in Yellowstone and the Northern 186 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: Continental Divide are in fact a reason not to delist 187 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: the bears, They say quote. The Service also recognizes that 188 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: recovery of small and extirpated populations relies on contributions from 189 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: highly resilient populations. Maintaining all recovery zones together in one 190 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: distinct population segment will increase the speed of recovery in 191 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: remaining ecosystems and the overall viability of grizzly bears, increasing 192 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: the likelihood of successfully delisting the entire DPS that's distinct 193 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: population segment by addressing the species recovery needs as a whole. 194 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: In other words, since bears can't read maps, we need large, 195 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: healthy populations in some areas so those bears can travel 196 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: to the other recovery zones and repopulate them. We can't 197 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: delist those strong populations because we need as many bears 198 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: in the lower forty eight as possible. The response to 199 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: this announcement has been about what you'd expect. The Center 200 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: for Biological Diversity praised the rule, with legal director Andrea 201 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: Zuccardi saying she's relieved that bears and other recovery zones 202 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: will have a quote real chance at long term recovery 203 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: instead of being gunned down and mounted on trophy walls. 204 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: On the other side of the ledger, the Western Landowners 205 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: Alliance accused the Fish and Wildlife Service of moving the goalposts. 206 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: The reality is that grizzly bears are increasing in population 207 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: and expanding in range, well beyond original recovery targets, said 208 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: Leslie Allison, the nonprofit CEO. People who live and work 209 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: in recovery areas continue to experience increasing conflicts, safety concerns, 210 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: and disproportionate economic costs. To be fair, the Service does 211 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: acknowledge in their press release that grizzly bear expansion is 212 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: challenging for local communities and working lands Because of this. 213 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: The new rule also adds greater flexibility and responsiveness on 214 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: private lands and areas where grizzly bear pops populations are 215 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: impacting private landowners and livestock producers. We will have more 216 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: information in future weeks about what exactly that looks like, 217 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: but it sounds like the Service is open to removing 218 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: problem bears more quickly. As of this recording. Most of 219 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: the hunting orgs have yet to weigh in on this issue, 220 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: but the Sportsman's Alliance sounded off in a blog post 221 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: a day after the rule was proposed, and it's safe 222 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: to say they're not happy. Michael Jean, the group's litigation council, 223 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: said the rule shows that the Endangered Species Act is 224 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: quote broken. He continued, we have multiple populations of different 225 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: species that have surpassed their recovery goals and are thriving. 226 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: If they cannot be delisted according to the Service because 227 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: they have not fully recovered in other areas. We'll stay 228 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: on this story as it moves forward, but in the 229 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: meantime you have work to do. That's right you. This 230 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: is a proposed rule, nothing has been finalized, and the 231 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: Fish and Wildlife Service is asking the public to weigh in. 232 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: There will be public meetings in Montana, Idaho, in Wyoming, 233 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: and concerned citizens can also post a comment online. A 234 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: sixty day public comment period will be open from January 235 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: fifteen through March seventeen, and we'll post a link to 236 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: that comment page over at the meat eater dot com 237 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: forward slash col Just a reminder, just because we're not 238 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: hunting them doesn't mean people aren't shooting them. You can 239 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: use whatever like I guess, acronym, synonym, always get those 240 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: things mixed up anyway, fancy words for saying agencies are 241 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: killing bears when they come into conflict, but you know 242 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: that's what they're doing. It would just be great if 243 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: hunters had the ability to take a few bears if 244 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: you want to see a really cool episode. And I'm 245 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: definitely not tooting my own horn, but would be great 246 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: to talk about the merits and virtues and the awesome 247 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: work that biologists large carnivore biologists are doing on behalf 248 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: of grizzly bears. You should check out an old YouTube 249 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: episode about five years old now on the meteater dot 250 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: com Idaho Grizzlies, where we work with some incredibly dedicated 251 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: Idaho fishing game staff to capture and release grizzlies as 252 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: part of the longest running population grizzly bear study in 253 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: the world. Awesome, awesome stuff. Moving on to the re 254 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: wilding desk, someone who has been releasing Links into the 255 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: Scottish Highlands and what appears to be an ill advised 256 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: attempt to reintroduce the species to that area. Two pair 257 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: of the wildcats were released last week and while both 258 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: were quickly captured by the Royal Zoological Society of Scotland, 259 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: the incident has sparked concern about rogue rewilders releasing wild 260 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: animals on the landscape. You guys did a great job 261 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: keeping me in the loop on this. On January nine, 262 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: listeners Ian J and Bob T sent me articles about 263 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: the first pair of Links being spotted in the car 264 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: Gorms National Park in northern Scotland. Members of the public 265 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: were encouraged to avoid the area as police investigated, and 266 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: it didn't take long for them to learn about a 267 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: second pair of cats that had been released in the 268 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: same area. Links are native to Scotland, but they disappeared 269 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: from the island between five hundred and a thousand years ago. 270 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: Some preservationist groups have called for the cats to be 271 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: reintroduced in the area, but from what I can tell, 272 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: there isn't much appetite for that among the general Scottish public. 273 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: One of those preservationist groups, the Mammal Society, told the 274 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: BBC that while it understands the frustration that might have 275 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: led to these illegal releases, it condemned the actions as 276 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: irresponsible and not the answer. Police are still investigating where 277 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: exactly the cats came from. It's also possible these were 278 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: pets that someone decided they didn't want, but it seems 279 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: like the consensus is that they were released to rewild 280 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: the area. Rewilding is a concept we've touched on a 281 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: few times. It's basically what it sounds like. Advocates seek 282 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: to restore landscapes to a wilder state by reintroducing ex 283 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: stirpaid species and limiting the influence of humans on the landscape. 284 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: While they're responsible and interesting, projects done in the name 285 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: of rewilding. The movement can also take on an anti 286 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 1: human tinge. Some would argue that we should restore natural 287 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: ecosystems no matter the human cost, and you can see 288 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: how that mindset might compel someone to release links in 289 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: a national park. Please say that even though the cats 290 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: are safe and sound in the Edinburgh Zoo, they're still 291 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: on the lookout for those responsible for the release. For 292 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: something super fun for you Scottish listeners. I know I 293 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: didn't pronounce this stuff right, so if you want to 294 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: write in with a little sound bite and pronounce your 295 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: national park, that would be super all right. No, there's 296 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: no tech talk for Monico's beckman. I know you're coming 297 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: out of biwally up there, but I'm glad to have 298 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: you doing your skate fastiles and a weap against the holding. Okay, 299 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: what moving on to the legislative desk. State legislatures are 300 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: reconvening in capitals across the nation and we're here to 301 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: tell you about all the bills and policy that will 302 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: impact hunters, anglers, conservationists and other public land users. A 303 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: few quick notes before we dive into our first big 304 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: legislation desk of the year. First, you can find every 305 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: call to action or as we say around the office, 306 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: cal to action, as my producer wants me to say 307 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: over at the meeteater dot com forward slash col. If 308 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: you're driving, holding a toddler, or can't reach a pen 309 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: for some other reason, you can find a quick recap 310 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: of every item on the legislative desk at the meeteater 311 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: dot com forward slash cal again the meeteater dot com 312 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: forward slash cal. Second, we rely heavily on you, our listeners, 313 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: to tell us what you're seeing in your states. We 314 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: do our best, but we can't keep track of what's 315 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: happening in all fifty. So if you see a bill 316 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: or policy that's concerning, exciting, just darn interesting, let me 317 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: know about it by writing in to ask Cel that's 318 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: ask cal at the meaeater dot com. With those business 319 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: items out of the way, let's dig in down. In Florida, 320 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission is officially seeking public 321 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: input on reopening a black bear hunt. The Sunshine State 322 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: ran a regulated hunt from nineteen thirty six to nineteen 323 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: ninety four, but they closed it in nineteen ninety five 324 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: to help recover the dwindling bear population. As those recovery 325 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: efforts succeeded and bear numbers rose, officials opened a limited 326 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: hunt in twenty fifteen, but ironically enough, that hunt went 327 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: so well that the public backlash forced the Commission to 328 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: close it almost as soon as it opened. Floridians felt 329 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: that too many bears were killed too quickly, and the 330 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: state hasn't seen a hunt since that year. Fortunately, the 331 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: Commission has voice support for a hunt for the last 332 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: few years, and now they've taken the first official steps. 333 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: They've asked the biologists with the Commission to put a 334 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: hunt plan together, which they say what could be ready 335 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: as soon as May of this year. If you live 336 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: in Florida and would like the chance to chase the bear, 337 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: now is the time to get involved. You can bet 338 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: that the anti hunting crowd will be out in full 339 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: force to pressure the Commission to leave the hunt closed. 340 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: We need to be out in even fuller force. That's 341 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: a word, right. That means attending the commission meetings and 342 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: sending in as many calls and emails as you can. 343 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: We'll post links at the media dot com forward slash 344 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: you know what cal to the meeting schedule and a 345 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: page where you can contact all the commissioners at once. 346 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: Here's a hint. They start with my FWC dot com. 347 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: Moving over to Oklahoma, the state senator has proposed a 348 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: bill that would lower the annual bag limit for whitetail 349 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: bucks from two to one. Current regulation allows hunters to 350 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: take two antler deer per year, but SB three three eight, 351 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: authored by Senator Grant Green, would limit hunters to a 352 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: single buck per year. As of this recording, Senator Green 353 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: hasn't provided much public explanation for why he wants to 354 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: see this change. I assume he's worried about the whitetail 355 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: population and he thinks lowering the bag limit will keep 356 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: more bucks on the landscape or help bucks grow bigger antlers. 357 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: But Tyler Terrio, a listener and lifelong Oklahoma hunter, calls 358 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: that thinking a fallacy. The hunters who shoot young immature 359 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: deer will continue to do so regardless of bag limits 360 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: and restrictions. He wrote in his email calling our attention 361 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: to this bill. Whatever the motivation for SB three thirty eight, 362 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: I'd say these decisions are better made by the biologists 363 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: in the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation. Senator Green might 364 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: have real data informing this idea, or he might be 365 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: doing a favor for his cousin's nephew who hasn't seen 366 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: enough big bucks on his forty acre farm and thinks 367 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: the bag limit should be lower. Whatever you think, send 368 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: an email to your Oklahoma state senators. Today. Up in Wyoming, 369 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: the legislature will once again consider a bill that would 370 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: make corner crossing legal in the state. Rep. Carly Provenza 371 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: recently filed House nine, which decriminalizes entering the airspace of 372 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: a private landowner if the person is traveling from one 373 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: block of public land to another at the point where 374 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 1: the blocks meet. It's important we codify that the people 375 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: of Wyoming have the right to access their public lands. 376 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: Representative Provenza told Wilo File I couldn't agree more, but 377 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: we'll see if this bill has better luck in the 378 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: Cowboy State than previous versions. Even though a federal court 379 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: has ruled in favor of corner crossing, the issue is 380 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: still somewhat up in the air. It is legal right now, 381 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: and it would be great if Western state legislatures would 382 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: step in and clarify this issue, But there is still 383 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: tons of pressure from landowners who currently enjoy exclusive access 384 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: to public parcels. And this isn't all landowners that about 385 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: public property gang. This is just a select view that 386 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: are trying to keep the public out of public land. 387 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: So if you live in Wyoming, get on the horn 388 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: with your state rep and tell them to vote in 389 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: favor of House Bill ninety nine. In Colorado, the legislature 390 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: will consider a bill that would ban a huge percentage 391 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: of semi automatic firearms in the state. SB two to 392 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: five DASH zero zero three would make it illegal to manufacture, distribute, transfer, sell, 393 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: or purchase semi automatic rifles or shotguns with a detachable magazine, 394 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: or gas operated semi automatic handguns with a detachable magazine. 395 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: Many other states have banned so called assault weapons, but 396 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: the sponsors of this bill claim to be taking a 397 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: new approach. Rather than trying to describe AR fifteen's, AK 398 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: forty sevens and other rifles in law and then ban them, 399 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: this bill is larger in scope. It targets any rifle 400 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: or shotgun that is semi automatic and accepts any size 401 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: detachable magazine, as well as any handgun that is gas 402 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: operated and accepts a detachable magazine. That would ban virtually 403 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: every AR style rifle or handgun. Since they all accept 404 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: detachable magasine most are gas operated, Colorados who currently own 405 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: these firearms would have to transferre it out of state, 406 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: sell it to a gun dealer, or pass it down 407 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: to an air The bill does include some exceptions. If 408 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: the rifle is chambered in twenty two col or smaller, 409 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: it won't be banned. If the rifle or shotgun has 410 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: a fixed magazine of less than fifteen rounds, it's also safe. 411 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: The bill also makes an exception for recoil operated handguns, 412 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: which would include pretty much every other modern handgun on 413 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: the market. Dozens of Colorado representatives and senators have sponsored 414 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: this bill. They say it's aimed at preventing gun related violence. 415 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: One of those sponsors, state Senator Tom Sullivan, says he 416 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: was also motivated to introduce the bill to enforce the 417 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: state's magazine ban. Colorado passed a bill in twenty thirteen 418 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: that ban the sale of magazines that hold more than 419 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: fifteen rounds, but Sullivan says these illegal mags are still 420 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: too accessible. He believes this bill, which bans the sale 421 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: of firearms capable of using those illegal magazines, will do 422 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: what the older lack couldn't. A SB two to five 423 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: zero zero three was introduced last week and has been 424 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: assigned to the State Senate Veterans and Military Affairs Committee. 425 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: I'd weigh in on this one. There's definitely like some 426 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: hunting applications here that get smoked in all this verbiage, 427 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: and man, it's regulating law abiding citizens in order to, 428 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: you know, I guess, somehow attempt to keep guns out 429 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: of the hands of bad people. Two more quick ones 430 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: for you, listener. Nicholas Hart sent me a bill being 431 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: considered in Kentucky that would remove the hunter education requirement 432 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: for anyone over the age of eighteen years old. It 433 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: also removes the live fire range day requirements for law enforcement, 434 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: current military personnel, and military veterans. It was introduced by 435 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: State Senator Gary Boswell, who you may remember as the 436 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: legislator who wanted to legalize killing Cooper's and red tailed hawks. 437 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: He's back now with another brilliant idea. Nicholas rightly points 438 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: out in his email that Hunter's ed has been credited 439 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: with dramatically reducing hunting accidents and states from coast to coast. 440 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: With the large number of adult onset hunters these days, 441 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: it seems especially irresponsible well, to remove the requirement for 442 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: hunters in Kentucky or anywhere else. Yeah, irresponsible. Finally, the 443 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: good folks over at the National Deer Association have made 444 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: me aware of a proposal in Indiana that would allow 445 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: landowners to release into the wild captive bread white tailed 446 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: deer that are supposedly resistant to chronic wasting disease. We've 447 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: covered this a ton already. It's just crazy talk. Oklahoma 448 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: passed the same kind of bill last year, and we 449 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: covered it extensively in a conversation with the NDA's Kip 450 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: Adams in episode two seventy three. We're not going to 451 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: get into all the specifics right now because I'm told 452 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: the bill's language hasn't been finalized, but we'll be bringing 453 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: you more details in the coming weeks. And I wanted 454 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: to get in on the radar of Indiana deer hunters 455 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: so you can be ready to stop this bad bill 456 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: in its tracks. That's all I've got for you this week. 457 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: So much more coming down the pipe. We're going to 458 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: add more episodes if necessary. I'm sure it will be 459 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: so right in keep us accountable, just like we need 460 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: to keep our lawmakers accountable. Thank you so much. It's 461 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: gonna take effort and time, but I know you'll do it. 462 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: I'll help as much as I can too. Thanks again. 463 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: Remember to write into a sk C a L that's 464 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: ASCALT themedia dot com. Tell us what's going on in 465 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: your neck of the woods. We appreciate it. Talk to 466 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: you next week.