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Speaker 2: Final bonus hour of the drive here on a Thursday afternoon,

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Speaker 2: rolling into the evening on the campus of Saint Vincent College.

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Speaker 2: Nice day today, sun's been out, not too hot or

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Speaker 2: muggy out there, but a nice summer day. As I

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Speaker 2: tell you what, Matt, they are doing something to this

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Speaker 2: field in France, as we've continued our landscaping obsession here

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Speaker 2: during the commercial. What do you do, man, They got

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Speaker 2: a lot of different pieces of the turf kind of

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Speaker 2: like Matt said, cut out and into buckets. If we

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Speaker 2: got to know what they.

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Speaker 3: Did with them after the bucket but I'm be curious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And they've got some of it over there on

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Speaker 2: the sideline I can see, But are they trying to

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Speaker 2: regrow it? Are they trying to test it? Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, not sure, but obviously they've got some time

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Speaker 2: to work with it now, you know, again as it

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Speaker 2: will be Saturday afternoon before they're back on this first

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Speaker 3: They're replacing the big divots they took out on purpose.

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Speaker 3: Now you know something. I think it's just like the

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Speaker 3: same ones going back in. But interesting, there had to

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Speaker 3: right down the middle too. It's in the softer areas.

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Speaker 2: Right you can draw a circle like around the fifty

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Speaker 2: yard like where the logo would normally be on an NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thing, most of it's like between the hashes too,

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Speaker 3: Like there's a couple others. But I'm curious what that is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, me as well.

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Speaker 3: But you're right, they got a long time for it

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Speaker 3: to a'll get back to Saturday that.

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Speaker 2: They do because practice tomorrow night, of course seven o

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Speaker 2: clock under the lights at Latrobe Memorial for the annual

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Speaker 2: Friday night lights practice. As the calendar turns to August

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Speaker 2: tomorrow will.

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Speaker 3: Be also never got that rain. They would have got

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Speaker 3: practiced in a normal time.

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Speaker 2: They would have been fine. They would there obviously, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: they would have been fine. But again, like we kind

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Speaker 2: of laid out, I can't. They can't afford to risk

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Speaker 2: it at this point. If there's even if in their

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Speaker 2: mind there was a thirty percent chance the practice was

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Speaker 2: going to get canceled or too much, let's move it up.

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Speaker 3: Everything today didn't happen, they'd be a slightly lesser football team.

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Speaker 3: There's goodtuff that happened today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And while the sky looks clear, if you

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Speaker 2: look at like some of the flags on the goalpost,

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Speaker 2: end zone, it doesn't. There's some wind whipping around out

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Speaker 2: weather report real quick. No, still just supposed to be

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Speaker 3: The next couple days supposed to be good though, I.

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Speaker 2: Think so, and I obviously anticipate, no doubt tomorrow. But

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Speaker 2: then Saturday Sundays practice is going to be highly attended

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Speaker 2: here on campus. I would imagine these be heavy, heavy,

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Speaker 2: a lot a lot of people in town. For you know,

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Speaker 2: I think one of the most anticipated weekends of this

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Speaker 2: of this offseason process, Matt. I was perusing through your

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Speaker 2: Matt's Stats packet that You've.

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Speaker 3: Been a little embarrassing that one already exists for week

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Speaker 3: one of Steelers Jets. But it's also for me a

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Speaker 3: nice place to just put things, you know, like so

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Speaker 3: if I find a Jets note, I just put it there.

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Speaker 3: If a lot of Steeler stuff I put in there,

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Speaker 3: and I need a topic for X podcast, let's just

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Speaker 2: You know, Well, here's what I want to talk with

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Speaker 2: were kind of coming up with some things to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's worst first quarter scoring differential in the National Football

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Speaker 3: And it's not just the offense, and everyone knows about

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Speaker 3: in football last year they were losing by the worst point.

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Speaker 2: They were down by an average of three point nine,

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Speaker 2: so almost four points per game at the end of

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Speaker 3: That might even be one drive each.

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Speaker 2: They seriously, you know, they Steelers averaged just two point

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Speaker 2: seven points in the first quarter. That's twenty ninth out

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Speaker 2: of thirty two teams in the NFL. They allowed six

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Speaker 3: Very troubling.

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Speaker 2: It's very troubling. And I know a lot of people,

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Speaker 2: but the more cynical listeners will go that's because the

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Speaker 2: coaching staff stakes, right, Yeah, but they were one of

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Speaker 2: the best in the league at third quarter differential, which

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Speaker 2: fast time, which means halftime adjustments were on point. They

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Speaker 2: and get it moving in the right direction at halftime. So, Matt,

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Speaker 2: let's start at the top in your mind. And I

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Speaker 2: know that, listen, people are obsessed with the script than

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Speaker 2: on their first drive every single game. They're not. They're

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Speaker 2: one of those I'm not asking them to go from

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Speaker 2: from league worst to top five or top ten best, right,

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Speaker 2: But if you could just get back to average, right, don't.

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Speaker 3: Be losing after every first quarter?

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Speaker 2: Would be great, massive improvement. Where's that start?

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Speaker 3: Not the worst team in the league shouldn't be the

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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, So where's that start? In your mind? What

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Speaker 2: are some of the marked improvements that you think that

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Speaker 3: All right, so let's operate under the assumption that they're.

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Speaker 2: Aware of this, which I'm sure they are.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure somebody in the organization is. I mean, whether

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Speaker 3: I can't speak for what goes on inside the walls.

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Speaker 3: I've been inside those walls and inside the walls, and

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Speaker 3: to many minim of many things. Sure, but I think

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Speaker 3: you're crazy if you're not. Tomlin and the coordinators to

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Speaker 3: at least say our week of prep might need to

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Speaker 3: be examined. Whatever our process is, whether that's the culprit

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Speaker 3: in the league. Okay, well that's the symptom. You know

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Speaker 3: what is causing this? You know, what is the disease

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Speaker 3: or the ailment? Yeah, but why because I sleep on

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Speaker 3: every day or because my.

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Speaker 2: My payer cuff is jacked up.

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Speaker 3: Or my six year old punches me there every day,

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Speaker 3: you know, or whatever, you know, whatever it is, Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 3: got to figure out why. And I think you'd start

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Speaker 3: that process by Okay, we prep for a Sunday one

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Speaker 3: does this tape study, this is how we practice on

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Speaker 3: Wednesday Thursday. Let's it. Let's let's at least to re

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Speaker 3: examine our process, you know, like maybe we're putting ourselves

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's not critical to say. How

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Speaker 3: Do yeah, right right right. I mean like not that

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Speaker 3: right exactly. So that's something I don't know how to

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Speaker 2: You weren't even sixteenth or seventeenth or eighteenth.

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Speaker 3: And clearly the first drive scoring droughts have gone This

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Speaker 3: card quarterbacks and coordinators. So is that a thing now?

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Speaker 3: You may scripted plays. What I think is a misconception

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Speaker 3: is when I script. If I'm a offense coordinator and

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Speaker 3: I script plays, even Bill Walsh, you know who's like

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Speaker 3: gonna through a draw for five, and I can predict that, No,

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Speaker 2: And then you get a holding call on first down

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Speaker 3: Doesn't mean I'm going to play play six right after

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Speaker 3: play seven. It's I want to put all these things

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Speaker 3: a great example going forward week one. If their first

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Speaker 3: for our thirteen personnel by giving us base. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 3: then we're probably more app to throw out of thirteen

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Speaker 3: make that adjustment, you take that data or something we've

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Speaker 3: never put on tape before this weird jet motion. Every

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Speaker 2: When they don't check to like a basic vanilla defense usually.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. So we knew that they knew that

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Speaker 3: they had never seen this before. They checked the cover two.

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Speaker 3: or the fourth quarter. It might not be the next an.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and now the opponents are allowed to adjust too, like, boy,

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Speaker 3: killing us, you know, or whatever. Okay, but that's the

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Speaker 3: chess match throughout the game. So that's the thing about scripting, though,

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Speaker 3: is it's the what plays can I put out there

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Speaker 2: It's not I'm running our ten best plays to start,

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Speaker 3: Or this play sequence has to go exactly.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, and in fact, and then that too, that

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Speaker 2: And all right, joe very all right, Joey, go get

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Speaker 2: And that's when those those guys like Debo and Woodley

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Speaker 2: Lead, Yea and Hey, they went the two Super Bowls

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Speaker 3: so there will be two between the next break.

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Speaker 2: Correct, and so like until I mean, you know, until

440
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Speaker 2: we're till we're out of here for for three days

441
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Speaker 2: for that preseason game in JACKSONVI traveled. Maybe they'll they'll

442
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Speaker 2: do it again then or something like that. And part

443
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Speaker 2: of it as well, to Matt, I know this can

444
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,080
Speaker 2: be very easy to forget, but like, once the Steelers

445
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Speaker 2: clear out of here in another in another two weeks

446
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Speaker 2: and and we're all back to our normal lives and

447
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 2: well into the preseason and all those things, and Saint

448
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Speaker 2: Vincent College has to come out here and have football champs, yeah,

449
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,640
Speaker 2: and and and play there, you know, probably six home

450
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Speaker 2: games that they have here on this field every single year.

451
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Speaker 3: So and I think this goes about saying, but this

452
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Speaker 3: is not Saint Vincent's grounds crew. This is a Steelers, correct, right,

453
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Speaker 3: using it on their field. Yes.

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Speaker 2: And what's funny too, is I know you've seen this

455
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Speaker 2: in the years past, but usually, like the last few

456
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Speaker 2: days of training camp is when all the Saint Vincent

457
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Speaker 2: athletes start to come back to camp. Yeah, and so

458
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 2: like you'll see, it'll be like eight o'clock at night

459
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Speaker 2: and over here on the turf field, the lacrosse team

460
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Speaker 2: will be practicing, you know what I mean, like like

461
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 2: there absolutely they absolutely do. But the yeah, this is

462
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,400
Speaker 2: the Steelers dojo right here for now and they yeah, Matt,

463
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Speaker 2: and I will be very interested, like I want to

464
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Speaker 2: see tonight, you know, when we come back here tonight,

465
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Speaker 2: like walking from dinner in the evening or whatever, what's

466
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,959
Speaker 2: it looked like out there then? And then tomorrow when

467
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Speaker 2: we're here doing the show.

468
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Speaker 3: Again, like we even know that.

469
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm wondering. Will we come back and I'll

470
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Speaker 2: look pristine and we'll be like, what the heck happened? Now?

471
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Speaker 2: We're really curious.

472
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Speaker 3: That's what I'm betting on it.

473
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Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, what you're doing, Matt, Let's go around

474
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Speaker 2: the league. Here are our daily around the league segment.

475
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Speaker 2: And I wanted to go I guess maybe a little specific.

476
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Speaker 2: There's not a ton of pertinent news today. Sounds like

477
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Speaker 2: sounds like no effonts about the sign with the with

478
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Speaker 2: the Bengals, But other than.

479
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Speaker 3: That, not a ton of just released them.

480
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 2: Sawks just released former first round pick. Was part of

481
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Speaker 2: that Broncos trade for Russell Wilson many many moons ago.

482
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Speaker 3: Another Iowa tight end.

483
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Speaker 2: Another one of those Iowa tight ends.

484
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Speaker 3: Yes, the Bengals want receiving tight ends. These types, they

485
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Speaker 3: act like more of a receiver than a blocker. That's

486
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Speaker 3: who he is, you know, but he's what he used

487
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Speaker 3: to be.

488
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Speaker 2: No, no doubt. Let's take a look at the AFC

489
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Speaker 2: West here today. How about that? Because there's all I mean,

490
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 2: of course, there's a ton of intriguing divisions around the

491
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Speaker 2: National Football League right AFC North is absolutely one of them.

492
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Speaker 2: NFC North is one of them in a division that

493
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Speaker 2: had three teams in the playoffs last year. NFC East

494
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 2: is one of them with the Eagles and the Cowboys

495
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Speaker 2: in Washington. But the AFC West, to me, is another

496
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 2: very intriguing, very competitive division that I think sometimes gets

497
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Speaker 2: under discussed just because there's the assumption of it's the

498
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Speaker 2: Chiefs kingdom, you know, and and and and it's not

499
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Speaker 2: really gonna matter dominated. They absolutely kind of that Peyton

500
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Speaker 2: Manning Colts type dominance that we were just talking about.

501
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Speaker 3: I mean, they're often five and one basically always five

502
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Speaker 3: and one or six no in their division, which is bonkers.

503
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Speaker 3: That's like Brady in patriot Land, you know.

504
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Speaker 2: And we know that the Raiders. It's it's been a

505
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Speaker 2: while since the Raid Raiders have been a you know,

506
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Speaker 2: a playoff caliber team.

507
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Speaker 3: I could argue though, they're the most improved organization, maybe

508
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Speaker 3: not roster, but organization in the entire league.

509
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Speaker 2: That's so let's start there, because I mean, before we do, ye.

510
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Speaker 3: There's chance that that division in two thousand twenty five,

511
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Speaker 3: if we look back ten years from now, we'll have

512
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 3: four out of four Hall of Fame coaches. Okay, I

513
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 3: mean I'm stretching a little. I mean, like Harbaugh is

514
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 3: not there yet, sure, but he's still young and going

515
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Speaker 3: and has a really good track run.

516
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say I had a lot of success at

517
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Speaker 2: San Francisco that people forget.

518
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Speaker 3: About reads in in a heartbeat, no doubt. And Peyton

519
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 3: and Carroll are really close, and they have rings and

520
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Speaker 3: they have longevity, and they're kind of at that Tomlin

521
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Speaker 3: Harbaugh level of this generation of not quite Belichick and

522
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Speaker 3: Read accomplishments, but really strong Hall of Fame cases. And

523
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Speaker 3: with all respect that like Bill Kwer who went in recently.

524
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Speaker 3: They're cases as strong as his, you.

525
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Speaker 2: Know, right, I would agree, that would absolutely agree.

526
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Speaker 3: You might have four Hall of Fame coaches. Everyone's all said, those.

527
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Speaker 2: Guys are not done adding to their resume, to their.

528
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Speaker 3: Win No, no, no, just getting warmed up all that stuff.

529
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So how realistic is it that the Raiders can

530
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Speaker 2: have some I mean I say immediate success. I don't

531
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Speaker 2: mean win the division, right, but maybe win eight or

532
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Speaker 2: nine games and play meaningful football in December.

533
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Speaker 3: So I think it's really important when you look at

534
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Speaker 3: that division al. Davis is absolutely I know he's hated

535
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 3: around here and especially back in the seventies, and it's

536
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 3: one of the best rivalries ever. But I think he's

537
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Speaker 3: one of the most important and most visionary people in

538
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Speaker 3: NFL history, you know, like you can make the argument

539
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 3: of Mount Rushmore contributors. He's right up there. And many

540
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 3: of us or many listeners only remember the Raiders at

541
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 3: the end of the Davis era, and to say he

542
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 3: lost his fastball is kind I mean, they became kind

543
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 3: of a laughing stock. If you pull up their drafts

544
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Speaker 3: for like ten years in a row.

545
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Speaker 2: He was the fastest player.

546
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Speaker 3: Take him oh, I mean JaMarcus Russell's the poster boy.

547
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Speaker 3: But they always picked in the top seven, eight nine

548
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 3: and missed over and over and over and over and over.

549
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Speaker 2: They had that one year with rich Gannon where they

550
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Speaker 2: went to the Super Bowl and lost to Tampa, but

551
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Speaker 2: other than that, it's been a bleak you and far.

552
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Speaker 3: Bruden was a head coach of that team, But there

553
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 3: was a long stretch of being kind of a laughing

554
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Speaker 3: stock and didn't get much better when unfortunately Al Davis

555
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Speaker 3: passed away and Mark Davis took over. But then they

556
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 3: moved to Vegas, and they put some money in their wallet,

557
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 3: and they also sold small portions of the team. It

558
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 3: doesn't sound like much, but any team anyone can do

559
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 3: is the Roonies can do it. There are minority owners

560
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,239
Speaker 3: where you can sell two percent of the team and

561
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 3: get a huge water cash and use that for signing

562
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 3: bonuses and guaranteed money and escrow and all these expenses

563
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: the teams have so along those lights that vein. Why

564
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: I say there might be the most improved organization is

565
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Speaker 3: I think they improved with ownership.

566
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Speaker 2: Tom Brady.

567
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 3: Tom Brady, they improved at GM. It was a guy

568
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Speaker 3: they got from the Bucks, who was a direct Brady correlation.

569
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Speaker 3: They improved at head coach with Pete Carroll, they improved

570
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Speaker 3: at quarterback. You know, like all four of those levels.

571
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Speaker 2: Kind of the backbone of your organization.

572
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 3: Were at the bottom of the league. And now they're

573
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Speaker 3: all respectable again. And that doesn't mean they're gonna win

574
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: ten games twelve games, but they're back to not being

575
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 3: a joke in my opinion.

576
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: They should at least win seven games.

577
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Speaker 3: Right, And the culture just changes from the top down,

578
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 3: Like if you want to change things, start as high

579
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 3: as you possibly can and go top down. And they

580
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 3: no one did it like them.

581
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Speaker 2: I think Ashton is gonna be like no, by the way, Yeah,

582
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Speaker 2: he's might have the best rookie in football next year.

583
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Speaker 3: He might be. He's probably leader in the clubhouse for

584
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 3: offensive rookie of the year.

585
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Speaker 2: How could are the Broncos going to be this year?

586
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Speaker 2: I mean, I know, and that hinges on two things. Obviously,

587
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: the second year leap for bo Knicks. Yeah, and a

588
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: defense there and that could be one of the best,

589
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: if not the best. And then one yeah, one of

590
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Speaker 2: the best if not league.

591
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: Last year, Yeah, led the league in sacks. I had

592
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Speaker 3: the defensive Player of the Year aggressive, and they added

593
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 3: a couple of pieces of first round pick, a safety

594
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: and a linebacker from the Niners, Green Lawn and Hifalga. Yeah,

595
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 3: so they got a lot better up the spine of

596
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 3: their defense and added a first round defensive back slot guy.

597
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: We talked about the value slot guys last year or yesterday.

598
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 3: So a good defense or a great defense by NFL

599
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 3: standards today got even better. I think Peyton is a

600
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 3: vastly I think he's one of the top couple coaches

601
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 3: in the league, as.

602
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Speaker 2: Much as it pains me to say, because I don't

603
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: love him, like his personality, he's not easy to root for,

604
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: not easy to root for, but he's absolutely a great coach.

605
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 3: And this is maybe unfair to him, but the Walmart

606
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 3: family bought that organization a couple of years ago, and

607
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 3: they pull Peyton out of retirement. Yea, yeah, they pulled

608
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: Peyton out of retirement and basically just give him a

609
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 3: blank check, you know. And I'm thinking, man, this team's

610
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 3: kind of a mess. They have the Russell Wilson messed

611
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 3: to get out of you know, they're going to release him.

612
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Speaker 3: They gave up all.

613
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Speaker 2: These picks, tons.

614
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Speaker 3: Of dead cat money. This is a terrible job, but hey,

615
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 3: Sean Payton's gonna get a massive head coaching paycheck. Good

616
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 3: for him, lived two years here, new owner. This is

617
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 3: probably unfair to but I think new owners in this

618
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: league can get taken advantage of old owners. I mean,

619
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: it's a there's no back that, there's not generations of

620
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 3: ownership of how to be, there's no playbook they give you.

621
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Speaker 3: Carolina was like this too. You know, like there's a

622
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: new owner, you often make mistakes and I'm like, man,

623
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: they're just giving this guy a ton of money based

624
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 3: on reputation. He took over a brutal organization, goes like

625
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 3: nine to eight in his first year and then goes

626
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: to playoffs the next year with a rookie quarterback with

627
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 3: a rookie quarterback, and that is so much in his

628
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 3: He build an no line, and he build a defense

629
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Speaker 3: and the other things are starting to fall into place.

630
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Speaker 3: I don't think they're a contender contender, but I have

631
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: great respect for what he and that organization have done

632
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 3: the last couple of years.

633
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: And they're one of those teams that, like if they

634
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: knocked off of Baltimore or a Buffalo game, it would

635
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: it wouldn't shock yet.

636
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: No, it would be a low scoring, tough game. But

637
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 3: you know, be like man the coach on the other sideline,

638
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 3: not the better of me.

639
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: Right Yeah? And then finally because like I don't know

640
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: if we need to spend a ton of time on

641
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. I mean, the Chiefs are what they are,

642
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: and they are they are. I think they're going anywhere.

643
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 3: Their O line changes are notable.

644
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I mean, a rookie left tackle

645
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: for protecting Patrick Mahomes is always a story.

646
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: But in this draft, he's the kid out of Ohio State. Yes,

647
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: everyone thought he might have the red shirt this year.

648
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 3: I thought he was by far the best tackle prospect

649
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: in this draft. And he's full go and looks great

650
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: by all counts. So they may have stolen him in

651
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 3: the late late first round because of injuries.

652
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: They played four different left tackles last year. Patrick Mahomes

653
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: was sacked thirty six times, the most of his career.

654
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 3: History has proven that if you protect him even a

655
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: three out of ten, he's going to be like the

656
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Speaker 3: best player on the planet, give it take. But if

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Speaker 3: it's a one or two, he can't overcome that.

658
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Speaker 2: He's not that superman, but they're gonna be in it.

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Speaker 3: Chris Jones and Spagnolo and Reid and those guys aren't

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Speaker 3: go anywhere.

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Speaker 2: And one of the most intriguing teams in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: the LA Chargers, not because of the head coach and

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Speaker 2: John Harbaugh, but like can Justin because I think you

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Speaker 2: and I both agree Justin Herbert's an outstanding quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think if we both made our top ten list,

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Speaker 2: he'd be five to six seven right there.

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Speaker 3: I think there's four superstars and he's probably my vote

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Speaker 3: for number five.

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Speaker 2: But can he finally have some playoff success?

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a thing.

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Speaker 2: It's been a while. We're still waiting.

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Speaker 3: Now. Steelers are victims of this. I mean again, they

673
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Speaker 3: only hand out thirteen playoffs a year.

674
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Speaker 2: The two teams in the Super Bowl are going to

675
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Speaker 2: take right five of them, six of them.

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Speaker 3: Lamar Allen Mahomes are going to take their share every year.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's not many to go around. But it's

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Speaker 3: also fair to say, does Herbert have that next gear

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Speaker 3: to compete with those superstars? I mean that's fair. I'm

680
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Speaker 3: a big Harball believer. He's very eccentric, but he has

681
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Speaker 3: his way of doing things, and everyone just assumed when

682
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Speaker 3: he took over, they'd run the ball like Michigan grind

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Speaker 3: you into dust, and that's what he wants to do,

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Speaker 3: but they weren't good at it. Last year he took

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Speaker 3: over a rough roster, and this year they signed Nausey

686
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Speaker 3: first round on running back that's two hundred and thirty pounds.

687
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 3: Their only major addition was a two hundred or three

688
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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty pound guard, Mackay Beckton. Teams tell you

689
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Speaker 3: what they're gonna do, like, Okay, we didn't run the

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Speaker 3: ball great, but that doesn't mean we're gonna stop.

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Speaker 4: Trying, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I think they're well coached too. They get a

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Speaker 3: lot more out of a average roster than most teams too.

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Speaker 3: But I still think they're well, not well behind, but

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Speaker 3: behind the Ravens, the Bills, the Chiefs. I think the

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Speaker 3: Steelers are a better team than Chargers. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think Denver might be two.

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Speaker 2: That to me is just a very All four teams

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Speaker 2: are intriguing this absolutely. There's not a Raiders are usually boring,

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Speaker 2: That's what I mean. Yeah, there's not a like there's

701
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Speaker 2: not a Cleveland Browns in that division. There's not a

702
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Speaker 2: Carolina Brands Saints in that division. They're all intriguing, they

703
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: all I think we can see them having successful years.

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Speaker 2: But some of the things too, some of the concerns

705
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Speaker 2: as well as a backdrop of it. That's just like

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Speaker 2: I said, NFC North gets a lot of conversation rightfully.

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Speaker 2: AFC North gets a lot of conversation rightfully. So the

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Speaker 2: NFU NFC East is always I mean, you know, Eagles

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Speaker 2: and Cowboys are always big markets in New York and

710
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Speaker 2: Washington and the Eagles and the success that they've had recently.

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Speaker 2: But I think the the a f C West is

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Speaker 2: gonna be a fun one to watch this year.

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Speaker 3: And my unch is back to an hour ago, the Chargers, Raiders,

714
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Speaker 3: Broncos probably started every draft meeting with how do we

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Speaker 3: beat totally?

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Speaker 2: Totally? And if they're not, they better start. Matt good

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Speaker 2: News just got John new Smith audio. Just got some

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Speaker 2: Roman Wilson audio from post practice that two guys who,

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Speaker 2: as we discussed, were kind of at the forefront practice today.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear what they had Yeah. Absolutely, Uh, at least

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Speaker 2: you better get a lot from those guys this season.

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Speaker 2: We'll hear what they had to say after a a

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Speaker 2: a I don't know if chippy is the right word,

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Speaker 2: but a spirited practice and a one where the offense

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Speaker 2: I think, by far had their best day of this

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Speaker 2: training Camp twenty twenty five. That's what we'll do to

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Speaker 2: wrap this thing up. On the other side, Westsheeler Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson Special edition of the Drive here on Steelers Nation

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Speaker 2: Practice number seven and Early one for the Steelers this

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Speaker 2: morning and fresh off the books for you, fresh off

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Speaker 2: the hot off the presses. We've got some comments from

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Speaker 2: John neu Smith, who was right in the middle of

741
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Speaker 2: practice today, Roman Wilson, who I thought had had his

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Speaker 2: best practice as a Pittsburgh Steeler today We're gonna play

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Speaker 2: these back to back for you. Johnna Smith first, followed

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Speaker 2: by Roman Wilson. Here's what those two had to say.

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Speaker 4: Nah, I ain't got no history of twenty two.

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00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 5: I'm just out there training, can compete, you know, trying

747
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 5: to get better, that's it.

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Speaker 6: So you kind of just spiked the ball his feet

749
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Speaker 6: when you made that catch. Is that sort of just

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Speaker 6: a statement to the defense, you know, just be getting

751
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 6: back at him for you know, other times in practice.

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Speaker 5: No, man, you know, when you're competitive, man, you know,

753
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Speaker 5: you just that competitive spirit.

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Speaker 4: Come out in different ways, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: That's just how I was feeling at the time, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: But uh, you know, we just out there battling, you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean, training, can't compete and trying to

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Speaker 5: get better.

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Speaker 4: That's it, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: If thorn thorn Hill went that one or was it

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Speaker 2: just a little high afterwards?

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Speaker 5: I gotta go back and watch the film. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I ain't get it. So I mean I give it

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Speaker 5: to him. You know, how about the last week, Ran,

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Speaker 5: I ain't get it. I'll get it to him. And

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Speaker 5: we watched the tape and see what's going on. But

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Speaker 5: you know, again we battling, and you know it is

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Speaker 5: what it is. I'm gonna want something, were gonna want,

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Speaker 5: They gonna want something.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's.

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Speaker 3: What it is.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna take up.

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Speaker 4: We're taking pictures out of back there.

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Speaker 2: How different is out for you when that's a different mode.

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Speaker 5: I've made plays from the backfield in my career, you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Nothing different.

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Speaker 5: Uh, you know, I'm just continuing to to be as

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Speaker 5: valuable as I came to this offense and whatever they

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Speaker 5: whatever it is, they need me, that's what i'm'na be up.

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Speaker 2: How much find I could tap those physical out a

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Speaker 2: high your in campire.

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Speaker 5: It is extremely fun, you know it, get it, get

785
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 5: kind of quiet, you gotta you know, wake the stands

786
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Speaker 5: up a little bit, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: It's training camp, that's what you know.

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Speaker 5: So you know we out here competing and then having

789
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Speaker 5: a big time having fun, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: that's all it's about.

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Speaker 4: Look the second when you shoved the ball in your gut,

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Speaker 4: you really didn't want to do. You were looking at

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Speaker 4: that any board, but he wouldn't let it go. Is

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Speaker 4: that kind of which one? Which one? The second time? Uh,

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Speaker 4: he went to pick up the ball after me in complete.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, uh, I don't know. I don't know, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I I guess he ain't like me

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Speaker 5: throwing the listen week teammates. Man, I ain't got no

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Speaker 5: personal beef or nothing like that. We out here competing,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. We having fun. It get

802
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 5: competitive when you lose and when you win, and you know,

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Speaker 5: we that's that's why we we we do. We been

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00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 5: doing this for a long time, man, and we wanna win.

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Speaker 5: And you know, it just brings you know, certain fit, uh,

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00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 5: you know, characteristics out in this. We understand that we

807
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Speaker 5: can't take this to Sunday, so we can let it

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Speaker 5: out here in training.

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Speaker 4: Camp, you know what I mean, and kind of bottle

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Speaker 4: it up.

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Speaker 5: But you know, it's still a lot of technique, fundamentals

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00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 5: and things that like that that we gotta apply, uh,

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Speaker 5: each and every day. So we can't just come out

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Speaker 5: here and have wasted emotional reps. You know what I'm saying, Johnny.

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Speaker 6: It seems like Aaron connected with you guys a lot

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Speaker 6: more today. This might have been his most consistent day

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Speaker 6: as far as find you guys different parts of the field.

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Speaker 6: What can you appreciate about his process that he's worked

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Speaker 6: with you guys to continue to build chemistry.

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Speaker 5: I would just say he's another coach on the field

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Speaker 5: and just kind of the way he sees things.

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Speaker 4: You could be very comfortable with Aaron operating the offense.

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Speaker 5: And obviously he's wanna be one of the greatest to

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Speaker 5: ever do it at his position, and so that just

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Speaker 5: it's an honor, you know what I mean that that

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Speaker 5: to have that you and you know understand that this

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Speaker 5: is last year. You wanna go out there, you wanna

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Speaker 5: you wanna be successful for him, you wanna compete for him,

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Speaker 5: and you know he's a great teammate.

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Speaker 4: Man. I mean, I I don't know, you know.

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Speaker 5: What things how things have been portrayed in the past

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Speaker 5: or whatever it's you know, however was portrayed to the

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00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 5: media or uh that that guy's a great teammate.

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Speaker 4: Great leaders, great quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Ready, Bloody's on our team, so we can How do

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Speaker 6: you feel like this, you guys are joeing, it's not

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Speaker 6: gonna how Uh as far as the playbook cans.

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Speaker 2: How come far are you the best?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 4: You know it's early, it's the early second week camp.

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Speaker 5: We got a long way to go, you know, long

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00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 5: way to go before September. Whenever you report is valuable

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Speaker 5: and it's gonna take Rome was not built in the day.

844
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 5: It's gonna take time. Gotta continue to keep our head

845
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 5: house out high. Like a a bad day out here

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Speaker 5: isn't a bad day because there's always something to learn

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Speaker 5: from and grow fund you know, as when you are

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Speaker 5: a professional and you and as intentional as you should

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Speaker 5: be or should not be a bad day when you

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Speaker 5: get to this level, there's always things to clean up.

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Speaker 5: And I learn from technique while it's fundamentals, uh, mental

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Speaker 5: eras and you know.

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Speaker 4: We we don't hob from that stuff if.

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Speaker 3: You run to it.

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Speaker 6: Cover play Roddy back.

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Speaker 4: I'm had some success out the backfield during my career. Yeah, boy,

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 2: What have you heard about the Friday night lights practice?

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Speaker 6: What are you looking forward to?

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Speaker 5: A lot of great energy earns a lot of great

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Speaker 5: energy out there. I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 4: That mat Trouve vibe.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a Trouble Memorial State Yeah, and so uh,

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Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to it. I man, listen, like just

865
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Speaker 5: being out here these past couple of days that training camp,

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Speaker 5: I understand what kind of fan base this is and uh,

867
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Speaker 5: you gotta be part of it.

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Speaker 4: But I talked to Chuck Clark.

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Speaker 6: I asked him, is he a free safety or strong safety?

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Speaker 6: He said, I'm wherever they want me. It seems like

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Speaker 6: there's a lot of fluidity on that.

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Speaker 2: Side of the ball, if you feel.

873
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 6: It's the same way with the way you and the

874
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 6: receivers are working with how you guys, a lot of

875
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 6: us le less about positions, more about just.

876
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 4: Talent, right right.

877
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 5: You know that that that availability, that versatility is gonna

878
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 5: give us flexible, tough and uh you know that's gonna

879
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 5: that's gonna be a.

880
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 4: Following for other teams. And that's how we kind of

881
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 4: simple in this thing.

882
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 5: And uh, you know it's it's a selflessness aspect that

883
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 5: goes into it.

884
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 4: Being able to.

885
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 5: Play all different positions and learned different positions and maybe

886
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 5: not what you have been used used to doing in

887
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 5: the duds.

888
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 4: You know, if we're working to the big goal.

889
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 5: But we don't know who that is, and so uh,

890
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 5: you know we be ready to attack this thing head on.

891
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 4: Harvard comes did you where.

892
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: Did you play running backs?

893
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 6: Cho guys, Tony, where did you play running back?

894
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 4: Where did I play running back. Go back, uh like

895
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 4: before the league or in the league. What the league.

896
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 5: I'll say this, go back to twenty nineteen Tennessee versus Houston.

897
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 4: And check.

898
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 5: The stack, shoot and go to rushing attempts, rushing yards, and.

899
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: Then you can pull up the table before that tip.

900
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 4: Uh, I got it. I got a few.

901
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 5: God yeah, you know what I I didn't. I didn't

902
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 5: have many carries in college. But uh Art was like

903
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 5: the first guy to want put the ball.

904
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 4: On my hands out the back field at this league,

905
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 4: at this level, and so uh, you know, I just

906
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 4: again it's usually in that places. But you know, I'll

907
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 4: h I know, I can my favorite run or that

908
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 4: game against you soon. Huh do you have a favorite

909
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: run from that game against you?

910
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 3: I mentioned there's only one one.

911
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 4: Tell me about that rep on Joey that you have

912
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 4: where you scored a touchdown. This is one on ones

913
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 4: deep ball.

914
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 7: Just go get a mentality. He's a good so good

915
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 7: to I mean, he's one of a little starting quarters

916
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 7: field a little bit come up and get that one moment.

917
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, what do you is that.

918
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 4: Kind of play you can build off for Roman? You

919
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 4: got a cheer from the crowd. Everybody saw it.

920
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that was a great play. Knowing me,

921
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 7: I love when the fans out here. I love their

922
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 7: reactions to everything, the good and the bad. And I

923
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 7: feel like every rep I take out there, I can

924
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 7: you know, build from it. You know, no matter what it.

925
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: Is, What do you appreciate about the chance to just

926
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: beat up physical on a day like this in training camp,

927
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 2: to go against your fellow or your DB's What do

928
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 2: I appreciate that? What do you appreciate about just being

929
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 2: able to beat out physical in those moments?

930
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 7: I really love how competitive is this year guys are

931
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 7: getting after I love to be a part of it.

932
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: Feels good to be back.

933
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 2: Mike has talking sending a couple of times if biking

934
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: the camp.

935
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 3: This is for you, How do you respond about it?

936
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 7: Uh? Just every day being locked in my routine, taking

937
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 7: it one day at a time, just really being being

938
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 7: here in the trope, you know, not mentally being somewhere else,

939
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 7: just being right here and focused on practice every day.

940
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: Remember, what's the biggest difference for you outsideis is in side?

941
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: Uh?

942
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 5: I feel like it's kind of the same thing.

943
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 7: You know, work in the same kind of techniques and

944
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 7: you know, just really working on getting open and making

945
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 7: a play from MTV.

946
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 2: How how much have you worked on getting off Prescot?

947
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 3: Has it been some of you guys.

948
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 5: Have worked on?

949
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 7: Uh, I feel like we're working on there all the time.

950
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 4: You know, is Hee that's a big thing for him

951
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 4: and that's what we do.

952
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: What have you picked up so far from the DK?

953
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 4: Uh?

954
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: Just kind of as his experience and the way he's

955
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 3: so physical.

956
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 7: I like to really watch him if probably high points

957
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 7: the ball, and just as the style of play. You know,

958
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 7: how he finishes, how physically he is and you know

959
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 7: his wont He's just he's an elite player and I

960
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 7: love to learn from him. Aaron talked about yesterday about

961
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 7: how his process of mastering this offense.

962
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: And he wants to happen down by the end of

963
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: this week.

964
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 3: What can you guys, just receivers do it in Mayda give.

965
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: A lot of that process as well.

966
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 7: The same thing, just studying every day, turning one up him.

967
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 7: As far as you know all that stuff that you

968
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 7: were talking about and uh, just being mentally locked in

969
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 7: and you know all.

970
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 4: That, did you have any kind of expectation of what

971
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 4: he would be like? And how are you find to

972
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 4: be in this team.

973
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 3: But we're talking about Rogers.

974
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 7: Uh, I never met him before and when I met him,

975
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 7: which is a cool dude. I tell everyone, like my family,

976
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 7: I'm like, this is the coolest guy thing I ever met.

977
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 7: And he's truly one of the kind.

978
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 3: And you know, so far everybody loves him.

979
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 5: Which what's an example of lead believers A cool dude?

980
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: Uh, just be able to talk to him.

981
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 7: You know, he has so much wisdom and so much experience.

982
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 7: You know, he really treats us like like friends, you know,

983
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 7: off the field, and just give us a lot of advice.

984
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: And he's a great dude.

985
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 6: You're landing up outside inside a lot of different places.

986
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: Is that a big part of this offense?

987
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 2: Is your vertha is all you guys's.

988
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 6: Versatility to line up in different spots, to get different

989
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 6: matchups arms calls.

990
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 7: Uh, Yeah, for sure, you know, just being versatile, you know,

991
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 7: not just knowing one position, but knowing the whole big

992
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 7: scheme of things.

993
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: You know, the how and the why of the plays

994
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: and all that.

995
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 6: Aaron seem to have like a really strong day to

996
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 6: day as far as finding you guys different parts of

997
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 6: the field. How have you what have you appreciated about

998
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 6: his process as far as developing himself and developing with you,

999
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 6: with you guys, in your chemistry.

1000
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 7: I appreciate him just taking my game to another level.

1001
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 7: Like I say, you know, he's a guy, he's Hall

1002
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 7: of Famer, Well not yet, but probably one day. He's

1003
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 7: just so smart and I just love to be able

1004
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 7: to learn from him and try to elevate my game.

1005
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 7: When you've done a couple of good days of practicing,

1006
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 7: is that just more opportunities or do you feel your

1007
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 7: fake progress?

1008
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 3: I feel like every day I wake up, I make

1009
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: some progress.

1010
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 7: You know that's my goal, get one percent better every day,

1011
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 7: and you know that's what I plan to do. How

1012
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 7: about little I feel this was a better practice for

1013
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 7: I don't know what you mean by better practice.

1014
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: It was a good practice.

1015
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 7: I feel every time I come out here it's been

1016
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 7: a good practice. Some better than others, but it's it's

1017
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 7: always good. You know a lot of learning.

1018
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: About Will Howard's ball. What have you seen out of

1019
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: him so far?

1020
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 7: And have you put it past you know, him being

1021
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 7: a buck Eye at this point, I was never upset

1022
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 7: about him being a Buckeye. But I mean, I love

1023
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 7: what I say he's a great dude. He can sling it.

1024
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 7: He's a great guy to have run.

1025
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 5: Great addition, one.

1026
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 7: Did one percent better every day he could turn into

1027
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 7: one hundred percent better free rank would last year.

1028
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 4: I'm confused by that lesson and you said you get

1029
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 4: that one.

1030
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: The goal is to get one percent better. Was that

1031
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 3: sort of the way it was with your injury? And

1032
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 3: when did you? When did it click for you know,

1033
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: I'm back physically one hundred percent.

1034
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 6: Oh.

1035
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 7: I think at some point last season it kind of

1036
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 7: clicked for me and I felt like myself again, especially

1037
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 7: with my ankle. You know, one thing at a time.

1038
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 7: At certain points I was trying to do a little

1039
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 7: too much to try to get back, and it helped.

1040
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 7: But as far as football, you know, I just had

1041
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 7: to did one stop at a time, left for a

1042
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 7: right for it, you know, just build progress every day.

1043
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 2: There it is John new Smith, Roman Wilson, two guys

1044
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: at the center practice today, Matt. It didn't even take

1045
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: it till tomorrow. A lot of now being repaired in

1046
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 2: front of us. Right now.

1047
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: They got these big they're camping down the get hands

1048
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 3: on there and making perfect I mean it's work of art.

1049
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool, and I.

1050
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 3: Wonder what they accomplished, but still.

1051
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try and find out by the time we

1052
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 2: go on air tomorrow. No practice tomorrow, but all I

1053
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 2: shouldn't say that. Sorry, No practice here on campus tomorrow

1054
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: part of me and while Matt and I are doing

1055
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 2: the show. But it'll all culminate in Friday Night lights

1056
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: tomorrow night, looking for more from the offense, looking for

1057
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 2: more from John new Smith and Roman Wilson there certainly

1058
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: after I think probably the most entertaining day of practice

1059
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: so far here.

1060
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.

1061
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: But that will do it for us. Matt, good stuff,

1062
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: fun as always, thanks to Justin for producing it for us.

1063
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: Back at the ranch. We'll just we'll get them some

1064
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: We'll get them some peanut butter pretzel pretzel balls to

1065
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: tell them thank you. That'll do it for today's edition.

1066
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: To drive. Take care everybody. We'll talk to you tomorrow.

1067
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 2: As always. You know where to find us. It's on

1068
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

1069
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nasian radio on the Steelers Audio Network.