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Speaker 1: Welcome to the newest edition of The Giants Huddle Podcast.

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Speaker 1: John Schmoke with you a special schedule release edition with

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Speaker 1: the Voice of the Giants, Bob Papa. The show is

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Speaker 1: brought to you by United Proud to fly the New

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Speaker 1: York Giants. Bob It's schedule release day. It's always a

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Speaker 1: fun day, especially for people like me and you who

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Speaker 1: hopefully knock on what will be traveling this year, so

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Speaker 1: we get to see when we're going where. But for

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Speaker 1: Giant fans, it all starts with Week one, and I

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Speaker 1: always like it when that Week one matchup is kind

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Speaker 1: of a division opponent and the Giants will be hosting

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Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos at four the National Game on Fox

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Speaker 1: on September twelve. Yeah, glad the first game is a

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Speaker 1: home game job because we still don't know what the

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Speaker 1: travel situation may or may not be for us, so

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Speaker 1: at least we know the first game of the year,

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Speaker 1: we're definitely gonna be in the building because it will

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Speaker 1: be at matt Life Stadium. Daron Rodgers gonna be the

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Speaker 1: quarterback to the never run house. I mean, who knows. Um,

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Speaker 1: obviously there's some real significance to this game, right, I mean, um,

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Speaker 1: twenty years ago the Giants played in Denver the ninth

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Speaker 1: before Night eleven. Uh, so there's a little bit of

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Speaker 1: symmetry as far as that's concerned. Uh. Look, I think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be an interesting game because it's it's an

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Speaker 1: uncommon opponent. You don't play them very often, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's every four years. So there's questions at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: But it's nice to start the season off at home.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm I'm kind of with you. I'm a

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Speaker 1: little over the divisional playoff game starts. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: especially with the limited offseason, limited training camp last year.

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Speaker 1: You they't even have any preseason games. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: if we run into a situation like that, God forbid,

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Speaker 1: the games are worth double So you'd rather not be

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Speaker 1: But these games count because remember the NFC East plays

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Speaker 1: the a f C West. These are common games, so

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Speaker 1: these games are very important as far as the tie breaker.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys, Washington, and Philadelphia all play these a f

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Speaker 1: C West teams as well. Yeah, Bob, there are no

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Speaker 1: easy games in the a f C West. Either the

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Speaker 1: Broncos defense is gonna be one of the best in

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Speaker 1: the league more likely than not. But the league schedule

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Speaker 1: makers wasted no time. Week two, first prime time game

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Speaker 1: of the year, and the Giants do play a team

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Speaker 1: in the division, the Washington football team on Thursday night

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Speaker 1: football in a twenty Again, that's only a week or

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Speaker 1: five days, I used to say after the nine eleven anniversary,

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Speaker 1: both those cities. Obviously we're hit very hard by that.

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Speaker 1: But really a Washington team that for the second straight week,

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Speaker 1: Bob getting be playing a really good defensive team that

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Speaker 1: this Giants offense is gonna have to navigate around. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a little fitz magic. I mean, the Giants have certainly

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Speaker 1: a short week. It's interesting too, because they won the

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Speaker 1: division last year, yet the Giants swept them, So you

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Speaker 1: know that that's something that's in Ron Rivera mind and

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Speaker 1: a lot of those players on the Washington football teams

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Speaker 1: handled Washington pretty easily over the balance of the last

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Speaker 1: five or six years. And and that's with the Giants

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Speaker 1: not having good teams. I mean, the Giants have really

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Speaker 1: have had teams that are well below five hundred and

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Speaker 1: in some of these years where they've had thin win totals,

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Speaker 1: two of the winds have coming against Washington. So if

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Speaker 1: you don't think the players of Washington recognize that, you

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Speaker 1: kidding yourself. So the Giants, uh, they're gonna have their

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Speaker 1: in that game against Washington. So should be a tight game.

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Speaker 1: Next two games, Bob, two games against the NFC South,

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Speaker 1: two different teams. Right, the Falcons, you have questions about

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Speaker 1: And then that takes us to the first Division game

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Speaker 1: But to me, they're the most talented team in the division,

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Speaker 1: So that to me is going to be intriguing. With

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Speaker 1: don't know what those games are going to be yet. Well,

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Speaker 1: the much better feel for how tough those matchups are

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Speaker 1: they've got a lot of veteran players. Caroline is a

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Speaker 1: And remember they didn't have Christian McCaffrey for a lot

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Speaker 1: Those games will be tough tests for the Giants. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then he talked about tough tests. Here we go

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Speaker 1: November one, Monday night football at Kansas City, Bob Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun of three all by the way,

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Speaker 1: all three scheduled games for the Giants in prime time

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Speaker 1: my point. Yes, on paper, this is a tough game.

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Speaker 1: But why I always like to highlight to the fans

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Speaker 1: is we're talking about this stuff in May. It's not

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Speaker 1: out of the bye Bob. They have the buy in

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Speaker 1: many parallels, but I think from an overall team confidence standpoint,

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