Speaker 1: On this episode of the Heat Check. Game two is
Speaker 1: in the books. And if you didn't have any confidence
Speaker 1: in okay, see after game one? Which what are you smoking?
Speaker 1: We have a full blown series on our hands, is
Speaker 1: it though? Is it? Or it? Did Indiana get themselves
Speaker 1: one win and one win only? And it's just about
Speaker 1: to be a smacking from then on. The Pacers and
Speaker 1: Thunder are throwing haymakers and I'm here to break it down.
Speaker 1: We also have a ton of tea from around the
Speaker 1: league we haven't had much time for, so put on
Speaker 1: put in your Lipton Cup because we have lots to
Speaker 1: talk about. Wyatt. You're listening to the Hottest, the Hottest.
Speaker 1: It'd be a podcast out here. I said what I said,
Speaker 1: it's the heat Check Check Check, which just up critter two.
Speaker 1: Finals are two games, and let me say the narratives.
Speaker 1: The narratives, baby, they are all over the place. Game
Speaker 1: one we add people ready to build a statue outside
Speaker 1: of Game Bridge for Tyrese Halliburton most clutch player of
Speaker 1: all time, myself included myself included Pacers, Steel won game
Speaker 1: on the road, and it's like, ooh, could Indy be
Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen Cleveland Cavaliers. After Game two, OKAC put
Speaker 1: them to night night, full on beat down. It was
Speaker 1: a sixteen point win, but it felt like so much more,
Speaker 1: so much more after two games. A lot of people
Speaker 1: don't have a clue on how this series is gonna
Speaker 1: shake out. I feel personally like, Okasey's just too much
Speaker 1: for them boys, I really do. Let's talk it through
Speaker 1: Kenny Carraway and I jumped on Casey from DLO and
Speaker 1: Casey thirteen twenty. ESPN jumped on on the horn. Right
Speaker 1: after Game one. We were riding high on the Pacers bandwagon.
Speaker 1: I've been riding high pretty much all year. So I
Speaker 1: texted my friend congratulations. Remember I told you I texted
Speaker 1: them the congratulations when they made the finals, and they
Speaker 1: said four more. I don't know if they were watching
Speaker 1: a lot of okay see before when they said that,
Speaker 1: because then after they got Game one, I say, congratulations,
Speaker 1: this is the most magical run of basketball I've ever
Speaker 1: seen in my goddamn life. And the response was gonna
Speaker 1: be tough to beat these guys. Three more times. I say, Oh,
Speaker 1: they know they're in trouble. They know. Then Game two happened.
Speaker 1: The train hit the wall, the offense went to a stall.
Speaker 1: Tyrese Halliburton went into the fourth quarter with just four
Speaker 1: points on nine shots. We cannot have Halliburton taking less
Speaker 1: than double digit shots in a beatdown. We need him
Speaker 1: to force the issue. That's what the good fucking ISO
Speaker 1: baller point guards do, right, Like, that's what even Steph
Speaker 1: who comes off the ball, that's what he does. He
Speaker 1: knows it's it's time. Okay, it's time. It's it's dame time.
Speaker 1: We need more of Tyrese Haliburton say I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: this team on my back. The Pacers were already in
Speaker 1: a deep poll because only two teams have ever gone
Speaker 1: up two oh starting on the road in the finals,
Speaker 1: so this is never gonna probably be the game that
Speaker 1: they won. And you could tell though that the Thunder
Speaker 1: they made a lot of adjustments. They weren't just resting
Speaker 1: on their laurels of what they did in Game one.
Speaker 1: They had so much respect for Indy Dagno kept the
Speaker 1: starters in until almost the buzzer. They were up nineteen
Speaker 1: points to start the fourth quarter, twenty midway through eighteen
Speaker 1: two minutes to go, and it was like, we don't
Speaker 1: got this. We're not taking chances with these fuckers who
Speaker 1: continuously come back down twenty. Meanwhile, Rick Carlisle shockingly pulled
Speaker 1: the ripcord for four minutes left. I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: you've been down twenty with this point at this point before.
Speaker 1: What do you What do you see? I don't see. Well,
Speaker 1: he was seeing an offense that looked very stagnant. He
Speaker 1: was seeing that the Thunder had these boys on the ropes.
Speaker 1: He would seeing that these the Thunder role players could
Speaker 1: not be stopped. We got some Johnny Furfey minutes, not
Speaker 1: Johnny Murphy. Johnny Furfey, Okay, a guy who is a
Speaker 1: rookie and barely played and is now guarding the reigning MVP.
Speaker 1: That's who we saw. Okay, So he was a little
Speaker 1: shook it. Carlisle said after the game. Sometimes you have
Speaker 1: to make tough decisions. That was an easy one, meaning
Speaker 1: I knew these guys didn't have it. I knew these
Speaker 1: guys didn't have it, And honestly, I think the Pacers
Speaker 1: new listen, if we could steal game one, that's pretty
Speaker 1: much the game we're stealing, because once they see what
Speaker 1: we do, they're gonna make adjustments as well. They said,
Speaker 1: let's just not punt game two. We'll compete and then
Speaker 1: if we don't got it, we don't got it. Let's
Speaker 1: put our guys on ice and wait for our time
Speaker 1: in Indy and then put the pressure on. And also
Speaker 1: Aliburton was visibly limping after game two, which is not
Speaker 1: good considering that he got into a little bit of
Speaker 1: injury issue last season going into the Eastern Conference Finals
Speaker 1: against Boston Carlile always playing chesne. And then on the
Speaker 1: other side, we got to talk about Mark Dagnoll. The
Speaker 1: dude is just this is a great example of a
Speaker 1: guy coming out of nowhere because we didn't know who
Speaker 1: he was like at all. He came there the most
Speaker 1: and they were in the middle of the rebuild, so
Speaker 1: we kind of weren't like really paying attention to what
Speaker 1: they were doing, right, But he was the most under
Speaker 1: the radar coach, just slowly surely building this team up
Speaker 1: into this monster that they are now. And he made
Speaker 1: a very smart adjustment. He did the two big thing.
Speaker 1: He did it. We didn't know if he would, We
Speaker 1: didn't know if it was successful, We didn't know if
Speaker 1: it was a good idea. Isaiah Hartenstein and Chet Holmgren
Speaker 1: on the foot at the same time, what would it be.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're better going No, they took away Indianapolis's game
Speaker 1: plan of going down low and pretty much completely. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if it just raddled them or what,
Speaker 1: but I was yelling at my TV, dump it down inside,
Speaker 1: come on, just get it, get it to them inside,
Speaker 1: especially when it was just one big The Pacers got
Speaker 1: just one post touch to Siakam. All night. They blitzed
Speaker 1: Taliburton a lot. He didn't look comfortable, which we knew
Speaker 1: was going to occur because it happened against Anthony Edwards
Speaker 1: and it happened against John Moran. John Morant was injured
Speaker 1: and taken out of the series. Derrennie Smith and Nemhard
Speaker 1: to beat him for three They looked just absolutely befuddled.
Speaker 1: They knew that they were taking horrible shots, and they
Speaker 1: were like, these are the best shots we're gonna get
Speaker 1: right now. This contested two guys draping around me, but
Speaker 1: somehow no one's open. That's what we got. A lot
Speaker 1: of can tested jumpers from deep from Miles Turner and
Speaker 1: Aaron Nesmith and Andrew Nemhard just getting snuffed all the
Speaker 1: way around. One time I saw a possession where they
Speaker 1: missed five I think four or five consecutive nasty jumpers
Speaker 1: got their own rebound, and I'm like, these guys know
Speaker 1: they are cooked. They are cooked, and it worked. It worked.
Speaker 1: Haliburton had five points on seven shots through three quarters,
Speaker 1: drop twelve, and the fourth the game was over. The
Speaker 1: game was over at that point. How about you, Halliburton,
Speaker 1: see that these other guys are making shots and listen.
Speaker 1: I like Halliburton, but the criticism is fair. When your
Speaker 1: guys are passing it to are ice cold, don't just
Speaker 1: wait for them to maybe magically get warm, for you
Speaker 1: to start over, for you to just take over the game.
Speaker 1: We need you to take over the game. We need
Speaker 1: you to not get into like the last two minutes
Speaker 1: before you start to be aggressive. I know that Halliburton
Speaker 1: doesn't need thirty to win this game. I know I
Speaker 1: know other guys they can go off. But when the
Speaker 1: guys that you're passing the ball to are eighteen for
Speaker 1: forty three, I'm thirty three percent from deep. I don't
Speaker 1: don't know what you do with that. Obi Topphin was
Speaker 1: one for eight. Fuck you, Obi Toppin. I had Obi
Speaker 1: Toppin to have two threes after five threes the game
Speaker 1: before that hurts. Credit to Okac's defense. They made things
Speaker 1: just insanely miserable for Indiana. You could tell these guys
Speaker 1: wanted no part of it. It looked like there was
Speaker 1: an extra guy out there. Caruso Cruse is like a
Speaker 1: little pest. By the way, Alex Caruso off the bench.
Speaker 1: The we call them the Janitor aka the god who
Speaker 1: was a key part of the Lakers and what they
Speaker 1: did winning the title. The man was everywhere. How is
Speaker 1: he moving so much? He's just always fouling, making your
Speaker 1: life hell, and somehow there never call it because again
Speaker 1: he's always fouling. And then offensively, Okayse, he just provided
Speaker 1: huge changes. Mark Dagno again coming through with adjustments. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you had lou Dorton, Case and Wallace who weren't doing much.
Speaker 1: They combined for seven points. But guess what, Alex Caruso
Speaker 1: got more minutes, came off the bench, gave him twenty
Speaker 1: points with four threes. We got to see a little
Speaker 1: Isaiah Joe and Aaron Wiggins. Huh, yeah we did. I
Speaker 1: had to explain this to my friend, like who are
Speaker 1: those guys? Yeah, exactly who are those guys. That's Aaron
Speaker 1: Wiggins eighteen points five for eight from Deep. He looked
Speaker 1: like exactly the spark from Deep that Okase he needed,
Speaker 1: which is like, let's be honest. You're gonna get some
Speaker 1: threes from Shay, right, You're gonna get one or two
Speaker 1: sometimes five from Dort. You're gonna get a couple threes
Speaker 1: from Jalen Williams. But we can't count on that. We
Speaker 1: can't count on that at all. You're gonna get a
Speaker 1: couple from Chet. We can't count on that. We've seen
Speaker 1: these guys go completely cold. Guess who you can count on?
Speaker 1: Aaron Wiggins. Aaron Wiggins is a sniper. He is, That's
Speaker 1: what his job is. Aaron Wiggins had forty this year.
Speaker 1: Aaron Wiggins is no slouch. Whenever Aaron Wiggins gets out
Speaker 1: of Okay, see, he's gonna have a real role. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be a starter. Then you add in the thirty
Speaker 1: four from Shay much more efficient thirty four, and you've
Speaker 1: got a recipe for a disaster for Indy, just to
Speaker 1: blow out Shay looked like he could not miss I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know which how many shots he did
Speaker 1: miss I didn't look it up, but it felt like
Speaker 1: none defensively, Like I said, okaysee was just locked in
Speaker 1: fifteen forced turnovers, fourteen combined blocks and steals. Shay had
Speaker 1: four swipes alone. Then and then when you saw Chet
Speaker 1: who had a horrible game, one have back to back
Speaker 1: buckets to close the first quarter and they were contested.
Speaker 1: One of one came off of like a scramble that
Speaker 1: probably should have gone Indiana's way. Ball goes to chat
Speaker 1: and tested three splash. I was like, oh, okay, it's curtains.
Speaker 1: It's curtains. When Wiggins hits that step back in the
Speaker 1: second quarter to push the lead to eleven, it's curtains.
Speaker 1: It's curtains. There these books, pack them up, go back
Speaker 1: to Indy. It felt like the air well then they
Speaker 1: air didn't leave the building for okay see, because that's
Speaker 1: where they were. It felt like it got very tense,
Speaker 1: very loud, very hard to think. And we've seen Indie clawback.
Speaker 1: That's what they do, right, that's what they do. We
Speaker 1: know we'd make some sort of a run and they
Speaker 1: cut of did. But every time they made a run, okay,
Speaker 1: so he made a bigger run. It was it was
Speaker 1: a wrap by halftime, they cut it to like eleven
Speaker 1: or something, and then it was like back up to
Speaker 1: nineteen and thirty seconds. So now we head to Indy
Speaker 1: for Game three on Wednesday night. Who needs it more?
Speaker 1: Who needs it? I mean Indy needs it more. Let's
Speaker 1: be real. I'm not worried about okay See at all.
Speaker 1: And I was feeling like Indiana was disrespected and they
Speaker 1: are disrespected. But okay See is fucking so good. They
Speaker 1: run guys out. You've not seen what are they doing
Speaker 1: out there? Aaron Wiggins and Isaiah Joe getting minutes and
Speaker 1: giving you twenty points? Come on, if you do that, listen.
Speaker 1: We know that Okay, He's not a great road team,
Speaker 1: and maybe they'll get blown out in Game three and
Speaker 1: maybe the narrative will shift again. But this is just
Speaker 1: a team until they're dad. I'm gonna believe in, especially
Speaker 1: considering that it feels like those on the Indiana staff
Speaker 1: feel the same way. I fully expect Carlisle to have
Speaker 1: the Pacers ready to punch back. The Game three is
Speaker 1: a vast fascinating one. What is Dagna gonna do? Is
Speaker 1: he going back to the two big lineup? Is he
Speaker 1: gonna go ultra small and play Jalen with Williams at
Speaker 1: the five. Is there a new wrinkle that we haven't
Speaker 1: anticipated yet? Is Polkashevsky coming back from the dead? What
Speaker 1: Poku is is my man? Is my man? Nicola tapicch
Speaker 1: back from injury? Is he gonna make an appearance? Are
Speaker 1: we gonna see what's his name? Kid that went to
Speaker 1: Mesich come back from the euro League? What are we doing?
Speaker 1: What are we doing? The chess match is fascinating. I
Speaker 1: know that people say that this is the least watch
Speaker 1: final since nineteen eighty eight. These are two elite teams
Speaker 1: and two elite coaches. And if you're not watching, that's
Speaker 1: on you. That is on you cannot wait for Game three?
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it. The t the news
Speaker 1: around the league. Lots going on right now. Let's start
Speaker 1: with the Nicks. So as we all know, the Knicks. Shockingly,
Speaker 1: even though this has kind of been like simmering for
Speaker 1: years now, truly years, is when is TIB's gonna get
Speaker 1: fired if they don't do this, Tips is getting fired.
Speaker 1: If they don't do that, Tips is getting fired. This
Speaker 1: We've been talking about this for a long time. Back
Speaker 1: to my WFA N days. But they did it. It happened.
Speaker 1: The team came down on Tibbs's neck. We got James
Speaker 1: Dolan out here like Joffrey with the steak showing us
Speaker 1: Tibbs's head out there in the sand, and we don't
Speaker 1: really know why. We don't really know what happened. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of rumors flying. Some say that players were
Speaker 1: throwing TIBs under the bus and I can't play with
Speaker 1: this guy anymore aka Karl Anthony Towns. Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: he's already been coached by TIBs once before. Some people
Speaker 1: are putting the blame on Kittie Cat. Some people are
Speaker 1: blaming Leon Rose. Other people are saying, now that the
Speaker 1: sphere is done, James Dolan has his head back on
Speaker 1: towards close to the you know, just centered and on
Speaker 1: the knicks. He's got the laser being pointed at the knicks.
Speaker 1: And then he never liked TIBs and he's just waiting
Speaker 1: for an excuse to push him out, which is like
Speaker 1: a hell of a time to push him out. Honestly,
Speaker 1: there were other times where they probably had more of
Speaker 1: a reason, like when they missed the playoffs or when
Speaker 1: they lost to the heat. There were other times we
Speaker 1: don't know the story. We probably aren't gonna know. I
Speaker 1: guess I bet you what though, If I see World
Speaker 1: Why West in Vegas, I'm asking, I'm asking him what
Speaker 1: the fuck happened with Tips? If I see TIBs that
Speaker 1: summer league, I'm asking, what happened? Baby? Don't you think
Speaker 1: it's a little fucked up? How they did you? Which
Speaker 1: thinks a little fucked up? How you guys did Tips? Anyway,
Speaker 1: none of them talked to the press. That's the only
Speaker 1: time you're gonna hear from Tips. Will probably join like
Speaker 1: some staff. He's getting paid a lot of money though,
Speaker 1: I think twenty something million dollars on his extension. What
Speaker 1: we do know, though, is this, the Knicks have a target.
Speaker 1: They have a target. Who is it? Whispers? Who is it?
Speaker 1: He's already coaching another damn it's Jason Kidd And apparently
Speaker 1: the interest is mutual, according to Mark Stein, So okay,
Speaker 1: this is puzzling to me for a variety of reasons.
Speaker 1: From Kid's side, I kind of get it. The MAVs
Speaker 1: fucking terrible. They just did all these things behind your back.
Speaker 1: They didn't include you. They left you out there to
Speaker 1: the wolves to explain something you had nothing to do with,
Speaker 1: and you keep saying I didn't know. I really didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't sign off on this. I love Luca. Don't
Speaker 1: talk to me about this. Talk to those fools. Okay.
Speaker 1: Imagine like the guy that's the one coaching the team,
Speaker 1: or how about this if you're a chef. I always
Speaker 1: make this comparison. You're a chef, right, And then the
Speaker 1: owner of the restaurant decides, we're taking garlic and onions off.
Speaker 1: We're just not wordering them anymore. They're gone. We're getting
Speaker 1: rid of them as an ingredient. They're gone. So just
Speaker 1: we're not gonna ask you, Hey, how impactful is this
Speaker 1: for you? We're no more, no more steak, no more play.
Speaker 1: They're done. It's done. Just come in the next day
Speaker 1: and just act like everything's normal. And it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: why is it steak on them any anymore? It's like this,
Speaker 1: fuck f I know, like these fools, I don't know.
Speaker 1: How do you not get looped in on the deal?
Speaker 1: Your star sharp player getting moved traded away. We saw
Speaker 1: a kid sitting next to Nico with Nico being like
Speaker 1: defense with championships defense with championships. He's like, this guy's
Speaker 1: an idiot. This guy is so dumb, and they're looking
Speaker 1: at kid and kids kind of shaking his head. He's
Speaker 1: got the backwards hat on. Remember he had the backwards
Speaker 1: at I'm like, listen, I'm not about business right now,
Speaker 1: because these guys aren't about business, so I kind of
Speaker 1: see it. Also, though, on the other hand, Kid's probably
Speaker 1: safe in Dallas. They've got Cooper Flag coming in. He's
Speaker 1: a rookie. Kyrie's coming off of injury, AD's coming off
Speaker 1: of injury. There's a little runway for him to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: it's not really all peaches and cream yet, give me
Speaker 1: a little time. Right They don't succeed right away. Plus
Speaker 1: management and owners thought Luca was responsible for all of
Speaker 1: the downfall of this team. So you're okay, you're safe,
Speaker 1: no state tax, better weather. I you know, it's tough.
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, what I really don't understand
Speaker 1: is why did the Knicks want Jason kidd ties to
Speaker 1: New York. I mean, he's a point guard coach, But listen,
Speaker 1: if you want to look at success with a point guard,
Speaker 1: nobody has more success with the point guard that people
Speaker 1: discarded than Tips. Jalen Brus was the second round pick
Speaker 1: and the Knicks swooped him from the MAVs that same team,
Speaker 1: and the MAVs they wan't pay him. And then Tis
Speaker 1: turned turned Leaks into like Filet Mignot, Okay, what are
Speaker 1: we doing? He turned him into an All NBA player,
Speaker 1: one of the best guards in the league, clutch player
Speaker 1: of the year. What more can kid do with this
Speaker 1: point guard? And you're not You just fired a coach
Speaker 1: for not getting over the hump aka, not going to
Speaker 1: the finals or winning a championship. So looking at a
Speaker 1: guy who caught lightning in a bottle against what like
Speaker 1: the OKC thunder who weren't really ready yet, and a
Speaker 1: depleted a team that had just come off of a
Speaker 1: seven game series they shouldn't have won against the Denver
Speaker 1: Nuggets when they were down twenty in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: and then you get cooked and by Boston when you
Speaker 1: get there. Come on, sir, I don't murder, murder. I
Speaker 1: don't believe you. I don't know that you're capable. Plus,
Speaker 1: what did you do in Milwaukee? What did you do Milwaukee?
Speaker 1: You got fired? It was a disaster. Nobody's looking at
Speaker 1: the Knicks and being like, you know who they need
Speaker 1: to beat Okace or Denver or Boston again when they're
Speaker 1: fully healthy. Its Jason Kidd. They just beat the one
Speaker 1: team that everyone thought they could not beat with Tom Thibodeaux.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it feels stupid, it does. It
Speaker 1: feels the more you think about it, the dumber it sounds.
Speaker 1: Cause it's like the downsides and if you think, oh,
Speaker 1: like this is the best Tips is ever gonna do,
Speaker 1: and like they collapsed. They melted in the sun in
Speaker 1: game one. They probably should have won. The other little
Speaker 1: cute game they lost against the Pacers. I think it
Speaker 1: was game three or four. What what are we doing?
Speaker 1: And the only way you're getting kid is by trading
Speaker 1: for him? And you don't have any picks because you
Speaker 1: traded a million of them for Michel Bridges. Baby, baby,
Speaker 1: what is you doing? And you might as well try
Speaker 1: to go after email Udoka then if you're willing to
Speaker 1: do that, and Dallas isn't letting kid walk. The last
Speaker 1: time a coach got traded, it was Doc Rivers and
Speaker 1: the Clippers gave up a first rounder to Boston. The
Speaker 1: pick ended up being RJ. Hunter, but that's still like, regardless,
Speaker 1: you're gonna give up assets for Jason Kid, don't do it.
Speaker 1: Don't do it unless Jason Kidd had some sort of
Speaker 1: like bat phone to Giannis, which I don't think will
Speaker 1: work anyway. With Brunson, I don't see the vision. I
Speaker 1: really just do not see the vision at all. Anyway,
Speaker 1: let's talk about let's talk about Boston. Let's pivot moving on.
Speaker 1: We got a big development here, and the development is
Speaker 1: the Drew Holiday is apparently on the trade block. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the guy who pushed two teams to titles, the guy
Speaker 1: who's the final piece, is now on the trade block again.
Speaker 1: First Milwaukee, now Boston. The Celtics are ready to move him.
Speaker 1: So on one on one level, that's like baffling to me.
Speaker 1: Because you need a guard who can defend on the perimeter.
Speaker 1: It's very important. You need a guy who can score
Speaker 1: seventeen on a random night in the playoffs. It's like
Speaker 1: Drew's kind of getting older, he is, and next year,
Speaker 1: next year is kind of a punted year. So then
Speaker 1: you say, all right, so Drew's what thirty one? At
Speaker 1: that point, Drew is see oh, no, thirty six. At
Speaker 1: that time, he's thirty four now, so maybe thirty six
Speaker 1: at that time. I don't know why I thought he
Speaker 1: was thirty one. He's just aging like fine wine, thirty
Speaker 1: six at that time. That you can then get back
Speaker 1: to contention and Tatum, we don't know how the process
Speaker 1: of healing is gonna go. The surgery that he had
Speaker 1: was quite novel like. It's not the most normal surgery
Speaker 1: in terms of the timing. So I get it. Mark
Speaker 1: Stein says, they're asking for a first round pick and
Speaker 1: matching salary. See, this is where you lost me. I
Speaker 1: think you might have to give up bassets for Drew
Speaker 1: Holliday given his age and the fact that everyone in
Speaker 1: the league knows you're shedding salary. Everybody in the league
Speaker 1: knows you are in a bund because you have a
Speaker 1: new owner and you guys don't have a real contention
Speaker 1: shot next year, and because of that, you're getting rid
Speaker 1: of anyone that doesn't fit the timeline. And he's got
Speaker 1: three years left on his deal on one hundred and
Speaker 1: four million dollars left, so yikes, and a player option
Speaker 1: at the end wherever he goes, he's locked in through
Speaker 1: age thirty eight. So I don't know, baby, I don't know, baby,
Speaker 1: people are giving your first round bit for that, you
Speaker 1: might need to take on some bad salaries that expire
Speaker 1: earlier than him and just eat it, Just fucking eat it.
Speaker 1: Send him to Houston, that'd be sick. I want Houston
Speaker 1: to be good so bad. Send them to Detroit, that
Speaker 1: would be sick. There are only a few guys in
Speaker 1: the league that can come into the locker room and
Speaker 1: do what Drew does. But man, did it feel like
Speaker 1: this last year he took a step down. MAVs wantam
Speaker 1: Kings want um Kings are in the mix to flip
Speaker 1: de Rose into Boston, a deal which I don't know
Speaker 1: how I like about that. Maybe the little zach Lavine
Speaker 1: get you some get you some points. We'll give you
Speaker 1: zach Lavine. We like. I'm a part of the Sacramento team.
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm trying to say, Drew, I think, though,
Speaker 1: is always a guy who you should consider to be underrated.
Speaker 1: Players love him, coaches love him. He's a defensive dog,
Speaker 1: he's super smart, he's low ego off the court, one
Speaker 1: of the best people in the league. Has philanthropy, community stuff.
Speaker 1: Wherever he goes, he is gonna help somebody Is he
Speaker 1: worth one hundred and five million dollars though, that's the question.
Speaker 1: Moving on, sad news out of Cleveland. For everyone who
Speaker 1: was talking shit about Darius Garland's injury and how he
Speaker 1: was soft and he should be playing and not sitting
Speaker 1: his ass on the bench with his little baby tow
Speaker 1: injury that they called it or whatever they said, we
Speaker 1: now have some news a way worse toe injury than
Speaker 1: anyone thought. He heard it back in March against Utah.
Speaker 1: He reinjured in the playoffs, missed a bunch of games,
Speaker 1: tried to gut it out, didn't look good. Now he's
Speaker 1: had surgery on that big toe and now we're looking
Speaker 1: at five months of recovery time. Yikes. Yeah, he's probably
Speaker 1: gonna miss the first month of next season. And what
Speaker 1: makes this even messier is that Garland's name is floating
Speaker 1: around in trade conversation, so much so that Hoops Hype
Speaker 1: had to come out and say, uh, Cleveland gat leaders
Speaker 1: are not going to trade Darius Garland to Orlando, not
Speaker 1: anywhere but just Orlando. For sure. Teams are interested. He's
Speaker 1: coming off of an All Star season. He had a
Speaker 1: sixty to five win team. The hype'es there. But now,
Speaker 1: how does the surgery change the math? I don't know.
Speaker 1: We don't know how it affects his market. We don't
Speaker 1: know how it affects how Cleveland sees him. I hope
Speaker 1: he gets right though. Darius Garland's a very fun player.
Speaker 1: I just don't know that he works with Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 1: That's really it. The Calves as a whole. I still
Speaker 1: feel like they have something to prove, but it does
Speaker 1: feel like they're ready and itching to make a change.
Speaker 1: Moving on another injury, tough break in Memphis. Zach Edie,
Speaker 1: last year's lottery pick, resprained his ankle in a workout
Speaker 1: and now he is having surgery to stabilize it. Yikes,
Speaker 1: that's really bad. When you're a big man and you're
Speaker 1: in your twenties and you're already having ankle or any
Speaker 1: lower extremity issues, that is a big red flag. That
Speaker 1: is the foundation you're messing with that this early in
Speaker 1: your career, that that can be bad. Ask Sam Buoy
Speaker 1: how he feels smell his lower legs early on in
Speaker 1: his career getting fucked up. Ask Greg Odin how his
Speaker 1: lower extremities are doing. It can turn into a long
Speaker 1: term thing. It can get you out the league. Baby,
Speaker 1: ask y'allming how he's doing. Hopefully he recovers, but that
Speaker 1: is just really a rough start. Moving on to the Hawks,
Speaker 1: we got to talk about them. They are cooking something up.
Speaker 1: Don't know what it is, don't know if it's good,
Speaker 1: but it's stuff. It's things happening in motion. They just
Speaker 1: brought in this guy, Bryson Graham from New Orleans, who
Speaker 1: is now their senior VP of Basketball Ops. He's been
Speaker 1: with the Pelicans since twenty ten. He took over GM
Speaker 1: duties after Trajan Langdon bounced for Detroit. But then they
Speaker 1: grabbed Peter Dinwittie from Philly who is senior VP of
Speaker 1: Strategy and Analytics. He's spent over a decade with the
Speaker 1: Pacers before joining the Sixers and twenty twenty. I should
Speaker 1: probably ask some of my Pacers crew about him. Both
Speaker 1: of these guys are reporting the GM Onzie Salah. So
Speaker 1: there's a structure I guess in place. Wasn't the owner's
Speaker 1: son like kind of running things. Wasn't like Landry Fields
Speaker 1: running things? Yeah that I told y'all. I fucking told y'all.
Speaker 1: This dude is a journalist, Okay, this guy is like
Speaker 1: a Golden State. It's like me just to quick taking
Speaker 1: over for the fucking Atlanta Hawks. You know this isn't
Speaker 1: gonna work out. It's me, But it's a guy. It's
Speaker 1: a guy that's like been around the lake a while.
Speaker 1: You know, he's like has some has some connections. He's
Speaker 1: not a basketball expert. He's a fucking journalist. Day he
Speaker 1: wrote a book. He's not a basketball savon. I knew
Speaker 1: when they hired him and he hired his little friends
Speaker 1: to run the show. Shit was going left. And everybody's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's a two too quick to say no, it's not
Speaker 1: too quick to say you can't hire a journalist to
Speaker 1: run front of and little owner's son hiring his friends
Speaker 1: some bullshit. Okay, Anyway, who knows how this is gonna go.
Speaker 1: Same guy running things in terms of the owner's son,
Speaker 1: probably probably going left. Keep an eye on him. They're
Speaker 1: poking around Myles Turner in Indiana, but Indiana says they're
Speaker 1: willing to go into the luxury tax to keep Miles
Speaker 1: Turner and Myles Turner just wrote like a ten thousand
Speaker 1: word article about how this team believes in him. So
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going anywhere. Moving on, we got
Speaker 1: some hilarious self shade. It'sika like just what I just
Speaker 1: did about me running a team. This is what Shane
Speaker 1: Battier did. He dropped one of the funniest quotes I
Speaker 1: have heard about the Lebron versus MJ debate. He said,
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing here. Lebron's the goat because he won two
Speaker 1: titles with me as his starting power forward. I don't
Speaker 1: think MJ could have done it once Lebron dragged me
Speaker 1: across the finish line. Shane, that's a little disingenuous. Okay.
Speaker 1: We had Ray Allen, right, did we have Yeah? We
Speaker 1: had him, right. We had Dwayne Wade. We yeah, we
Speaker 1: had him. We had Chris Bosh who cares that you
Speaker 1: were there just being dragged along like hop along Charlie. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's hilarious. And Jane Battier, by the way, it's not
Speaker 1: a bum. He has two rings. Natty at Duke, he
Speaker 1: was all defense, but he was washed. He was playing
Speaker 1: out a position. He was in the corner watching Braun
Speaker 1: cook for like forty seven minutes a night. And I
Speaker 1: know that Lebron alway didn't always have a perfect squad
Speaker 1: in Miami, But like, don't do that. Just a funny,
Speaker 1: self aware way to make his case. But we move on.
Speaker 1: Victor Wemberyama just always delights and presses surprises. He has
Speaker 1: officially entered his monk era. Yeah you saw him. He
Speaker 1: had a monk costume or a monk uniform whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Monk robes, that's what it is, Monk robe. He had
Speaker 1: his monk robes on, shaved his head, and he went
Speaker 1: to China. He visited the Shaolin temple. He stayed there
Speaker 1: for ten days and wore the robes. And he is
Speaker 1: trying to figure out a way to unlock his final form,
Speaker 1: which is fucking, let's be honest, terrifying, terrifying. If Victor
Speaker 1: webbin Yama evolves anymore, he's taking over the earth. That's
Speaker 1: what he's doing, is he is. Now there's a TikTok
Speaker 1: expose going around that now the Internet is saying that
Speaker 1: the Spurs are lying about Wemby's height. People are using
Speaker 1: team photos, comparing them to combine measurements, doing digital overlays,
Speaker 1: and apparently Wemby is not seven three like they've said,
Speaker 1: He's not seven four like they said. He might be
Speaker 1: They're saying he's seven seven okay, seven to seven glitch
Speaker 1: and the matrix stuff like like, are we okay? You know, like,
Speaker 1: is Webby gonna be a long lasting human at seven
Speaker 1: to seven? I think at this point it's Guinness Book
Speaker 1: of World Records level. You got a seven to seven
Speaker 1: French bald monk with a three point jump shot who
Speaker 1: can block and has hands the size of my Torso.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, The league might be cooked. The
Speaker 1: league might be cooked. Moving on, we gotta check in
Speaker 1: on the Greek League. This is incredible. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: some butchering here. Panathanacos versus Olympiacos in the finals went
Speaker 1: completely off the rails in game two. Panathanacos owner Dimitris
Speaker 1: Yana Koppolis, Yeah, I got it, lost his damn mind,
Speaker 1: ended up with a ten month ban and a twenty
Speaker 1: thousand euro fine. EuroLeague also find both teams and so
Speaker 1: that was that. And then this happens in game three,
Speaker 1: Evan Fournier Fournier, yes, that one, gets tossed in the
Speaker 1: game for obscene gestures. Kendrick Nunn gets ejected for a
Speaker 1: hard foul. Then hours after the game, the VP of Olympiacos,
Speaker 1: Giorgios Skindilius got arrested, got arrested. Okay, the owner's daughter
Speaker 1: filed a lawsuit, he filed a countersuit, and there are
Speaker 1: some dark accusations there that I don't think you want
Speaker 1: to delve into. Okay, just chaos and wild. It's half
Speaker 1: the rosters are NBA guys, former NBA guys. You have
Speaker 1: Evan Fournier. You got Kendrick Nunn, you got Cheddy OsmAnd,
Speaker 1: You got Wyny and Gabriel, We got Omar youor A seven.
Speaker 1: You got Sabin Lee, you got Jerry and Grant, got
Speaker 1: Alec Peters. He's your dudes. Okay, here's a your names.
Speaker 1: We know Olympiakos won the title in Game four. The drama, though,
Speaker 1: might have outshined the basketball. With the NBA launching a
Speaker 1: EuroLeague competitor in two years, you already know what's about
Speaker 1: to get weird. That's all the time that we have
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