WEBVTT - TRAPPED 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:05.800 Hey, everybody, am me and TJ here, And what is 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:07.760 it that you feel. 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:10.559 Any sort of confined space? 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:14.080 I get, I wasn't expecting that of an answer. 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:15.320 Did you think I was going to say? 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.680 I don't know, but but what is that you fear? 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:22.120 People give me a fear of loss, a fear of 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:24.280 health issues, fear of all kinds of things you went 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:26.600 immediately to, like a phobia. 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:28.960 Yeah, claustrophobia, I definitely have it. I think I'm a 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:31.600 pretty generally daring person. But if you ask me what 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.239 would be a nightmare scenario, it would be to be 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:37.520 in a submarine. I just think this feeling of being 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:41.680 trapped that is a very scary feeling for me. And 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.120 sometimes even on planes, if I've had an anxious day, 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:46.720 I kind of have to take a few deep breaths 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:48.800 and not focus on the fact that I'm in a 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:53.840 small tubular machine that I have no control over, how 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:55.880 it's been kept up, and it's flying thirty thousand feet 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:56.240 in the air. 0:00:56.280 --> 0:01:00.920 So yes, yes, he's listening to us on the way 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:04.520 to the airport. Okay, I fly a lot. It's just 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:08.080 but I actually I'm struggling with fear. I have a 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.399 fear of flying because I'm scared the plane is gonna 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.640 go down. My fear has nothing to do with being 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:13.679 in a confined space. 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:16.760 So you know, I hate the window seat and the 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:18.640 middle seat. And it's not because. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:19.960 That's because you go to the bathroom once. 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.880 But I actually want to be able to know that 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.640 I can get out quickly if I need to. I 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.160 do have that slight and neurosis. It's funny, I've never 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:30.720 fully explained that to you. 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:34.000 I don't have. Okay, there is a two different ones. 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:39.839 There's a claustrophobia that's the fear of small spaces, right, okay. 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.840 But then there's a cli throw that's a different one 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.759 called a clithrow phobia, I believe, which is actual fear 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:49.000 of being trapped. Oh so, if you're claustrophobic, you see 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.480 a small space, you see that elevator, and you go 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:56.320 oh god, and you get anxiety. That's claustrophobia. The other 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:59.040 is when I see the small space, I got no 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:03.080 problem getting in that space. But if that buzzer goes 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:05.480 off and I'm trapped in here, now it's a totally 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:06.200 different situation. 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:09.359 You just pulled that phobia out of thin air and 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.560 It's fully describes me, and yet I've never heard it before. 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:16.079 I got the google it again. I think it's I'm saying, 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:17.960 all right, Clythrow, and he's giving me the thumbs up. 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:20.200 Clythrow phobia phobia. 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.240 So it's a different thing where you don't you're not 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:26.480 scared of the space itself, but the idea of being 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.560 trapped in that space is the problem. That could be 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.480 a large room even, right, Yes, but it's the fear 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:32.919 of not having a way of getting out. 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:36.560 So yes, clythrow phobia. I'm afraid of not being able 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:37.280 to get out. 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:38.440 Okay, where does this So? 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:39.680 I don't know if some of this stuff is just 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:43.440 in us, or some people get phobias and fears. 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.600 We all fear sharks because of Joss. 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:50.280 Yes, right, Yes, a movie can set you off cause 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.240 a particular fear. I think we might be doing I 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:57.760 wonder if we're doing this to Sabine. Yeah, my eleven year. 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:59.840 Everybody at this point knows that you and I are 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:05.080 huge fans of horror movies. But she has since Thursday, 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:09.000 she let me know that you and I have She 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.560 dinna say forced, but we have put her in a 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:15.080 position that since Thursday and we're here sitting on Monday. 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.519 She has watched five or six horror movies because of us. 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:20.600 She's eleven. 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:22.920 I don't feel great about that. 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:26.480 Okay, but here's the thing. Three of them is when 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:28.080 she was solely in your care. 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.600 So that's why I said, I don't feel great about that. 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.320 I didn't say we should be ashamed of ourselves. I said, wow, 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.720 that's on me. I will say the ones that we 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:41.760 watched were so excuse me, it a quiet place and 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:45.240 a quiet place to this because she has been coming 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.080 to the theater with us when we have some of 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:50.080 these new fun blockbuster horror movies coming out, and I 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.280 know that a quiet place. Three, the third installment is 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:54.840 coming out. So I thought, oh, well, you were away 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:56.800 and I was with me, and I thought, let's get 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:57.480 her caught up. 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:59.800 Okay, you were doing her a favor. Oh I didn't understand. 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:01.040 That's my mistake. 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:06.480 No. I I now that she's voiced that we will adjust. 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:10.360 Okay, worry, but but a movie like Jaws makes us 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:13.320 all fear sharks. But we love horror movies, yes, and 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:15.880 there are so many as to think there are subgenres 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:17.760 of horror movies, Like somebody say Hey, there's a new 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.920 horror movie coming out. We'll go, Okay, what genre is 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.560 it of horror movies? So there's comedy horror. 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.200 Or which we've really recently gotten into. We love I'm 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:28.520 really loving a comedy horror. 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:29.200 But we got. 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:33.840 Slashers, we got vampire movies, we have supernatural supernatural, you 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:35.680 got demonic, you got possession, you have. 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:37.400 Yeah. 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:41.400 Yes, we have all the random like yes, but then 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:45.120 you get more specific. There are some that have to 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.000 do with planes going down. Yes, there's some having to 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:52.760 do with being buried alive aliens. Yes, they get very specific. 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:56.599 And one genre we also like is elevator horror. 0:04:56.720 --> 0:05:00.000 Yes, we actually just saw one called Elevator. 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:00.680 Yes. 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.880 But my favorite elevator horror movie is you know it 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:08.000 Devil Shyamalan. It is so good. 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:08.720 It did not. 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.440 Get as much love as I thought it should. If 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.360 you have not seen Devil, check out Devil. 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.160 Another one, and this is in the genre of being trapped, 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:21.760 is being trapped in caves the Descent and The Descent 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.880 too rarely is a sequel as good as the original, 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.920 and I would argue that The Descent falls into that category. Wow, 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:33.039 trapped in a cave system with sub human life forms 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.680 that have evolved in these dark, wet spaces. 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:38.640 And don't watch this while you're eating. 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.719 Then, as you mentioned, there's trapped in homes and trapped 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:43.279 in rooms. 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:45.760 Oh yes, the whole Oh I forgot about that. 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.599 Strangers, That's what I'm thinking. Those two are some excellent ones. 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:52.080 And when you're trapped in a room. All the Saw 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:53.240 movies are basically that. 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.800 Oh yeah, Oh gore is another category of. 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:59.080 You can have one, and that was like maybe a 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.080 double genre with the Saw movies. 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:04.640 But some of these, I will admit they make you 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:08.760 scared of little things, like I almost fear kids sometimes. 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.680 Oh you don't like the demand of kids. You say, 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.520 if there is a creepy kid, I'm not watching, And 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.760 that is, unfortunately, because I love watching creepy. 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.720 It's something about creepy kids that dead turn me out 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:20.359 because they look in a scent and there's just a 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:21.960 desert orphan. 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.279 Oh boy, the boy too. 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.800 I've seen all these but and nol Sabine messages with me. 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.279 She'll stand in the dark in the hallway and make. 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:30.920 A like a oh yeah. 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.159 My daughter used to go to sleep. She was so 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:35.960 driven into just being prepared. She would go to sleep 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.640 in her Catholic school uniform, and she was an early riser, 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:40.800 and sometimes she would wake up early and come and 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:42.760 stand at the foot of my bed in Catholic school 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:44.720 uniform at the age of like eight, and I would 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:45.440 wake up going. 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.080 Oh my god. Yeah, but she did that. 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.039 And I get what you're saying. But I still like 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:51.120 watching creepy kids. 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:52.960 I still do, you know, I watch them. 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:57.839 But so all these subgenres we speak of, now there 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.440 is one other. It's almost a sub sub genre. 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:02.880 It has very specific Yes, it has to. 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:06.200 Do with being trapped. It has to do some some 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.360 could say fear of heights. Yes, you could throw that in. 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:12.880 There are Survival Cold, Yes, if you get trapped in 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.120 a on a gondola or a ski lift. 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.160 Yes, there's a couple of these movies that are out there. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.320 Like Yes, I have always been a fan of the 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.760 twenty ten flick Frozen, not the Disney one, but the 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:27.520 one where three people get trapped on a ski lift 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:32.720 and it's sub freezing temperatures and there are wolves below. 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.040 It doesn't end well for several of the people on. 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:36.440 Them, and it's good. 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.720 I want to clarify that. You also do like the 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:42.200 Disney Frozen too. Okay, we're just talking about a different 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:43.960 one now. But the way it came out, I. 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.280 Didn't want it to be internalet from the other Frozen, 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.320 like you know, they work actually together. If you're just 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.240 it's too much, too much gore, too much fear, you 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.200 just go to Frozen and it's great Disney version. 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:56.960 But then there's another that had those folks on a 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:01.520 ski lift, essentially sitting outside exposed. Yes, there's another movie 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:05.320 called Break Now. This one folks are trapped in a gondola. 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.160 They are together. The thing I think it breaks down 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:12.040 but freezing temperatures, but they it becomes a fight for survival, 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.480 not just the elements but each other, right right, Which. 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.120 Is kind of like what the elevator movies have been 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:17.680 like too, because it's not just the fact that you're 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.240 in an elevator, but who are you on the elevator with? So, 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:22.840 who are you in this gondola with? And so, yeah, 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.680 that's fear and so it's not meant to be a 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.600 horror comedy. But because it was originally a Russian flick, 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:30.760 if you watch it here in the United States, it's 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.559 dubbed over in English, which kind of makes it funny. 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:37.160 So I found myself laughing and being on the edge 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:38.720 of my seat at the same time. So I found 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:42.439 it unintentionally being a comedic horror film. 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:44.959 But you're a skier, a longtime skier. Have you ever 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.080 had an issue on a gondola ski lift? 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.360 Getting off the ski lift many times, or get off 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:50.360 fallen on my face? 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.559 I'm saying, I'm saying, do you have an accident that's 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:54.560 not your false? 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:55.840 No, no, no. 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.000 I have not. But I'm telling you, anyone who is 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:02.360 a skier, I can't imagine not having had that thought 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.840 run through them. What would I do if it suddenly stopped? 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:07.320 There are glitches, and all of a sudden, you know, 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.599 someone like me would have fallen getting off of the 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:11.200 skey lift, and so the whole thing has to shut 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.480 down and they have to kind of reset it. And 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:14.400 that happens a lot. 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:15.760 When you've seen you've seen that happen. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.280 I've been on the sky lift where all of a 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.800 sudden it stops and then you kind of are twisting 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.440 in the wind and dangling. And sometimes it stops at 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.040 really high points, like if you're out west in Colorado 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.319 or somewhere where they have really high mountains. It is 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:30.679 you start thinking the worst. And I've been on there 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:32.480 with my kids and I've had actually both of my 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:34.080 girls being a little nervous, like, Mom, are we going 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:34.800 to start back up? 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.400 But that's understood. Answer, that's a part of you will 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:40.040 understand that sometimes this. 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:43.600 Happens part regularly, okay, so regularly. 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.080 Okay, So you knew you didn't necessarily think you were 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.280 in trouble. I mean, your mind might go climes. 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.360 It takes longer than you think it should, and it is. 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:53.079 It is frightening, but thankfully for me, it's always started 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:53.880 right back up. 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:55.480 All right. What would you do? 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:55.560 Do? 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:57.320 You know what you would do? Usually you have your 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:58.760 phone with you. I thought about it, you make a 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.000 phone call. But other than that, you just have to 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:01.960 hang tight and wait. 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:02.120 Right. 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.000 Yeah, you hope that your hand warmers that you have 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.320 in your gloves or something might last longer. But most 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.319 of the time, when it stops at a high enough point, 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.400 you don't have a what would you do scenario? There's 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:13.880 nothing to do, Like, you can't do anything. You are 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:17.440 at the mercy of the workers who are operating the 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.880 gondola or the ski lift, or the people on the mountain, 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:21.960 knowing that you're unaccounted for. But short of that, like 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:25.760 you actually don't have options. You are stuck without, like 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.760 you're on a lake without a paddle, well without a paddle. 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:32.800 Hopefully that never ever happens to you, because I would 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:36.440 be just devastated waiting for word, because I would not 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:37.360 be up there with you. 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:43.880 Maybe one day, not after today, though maybe not after 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:44.520 our next guest. 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:46.360 Oh yeah, we say that because it sounds like an 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:51.080 absolute nightmare that it turns out somebody actually lived it 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.320 very recently, a nightmare or something that you see in 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.360 a movie. But it absoluutely did just happen to a 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:03.559 woman out in California. Yeah, Lake Tahoe actually got stuck 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:06.840 in a gondola alone overnight. 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:11.080 We have Monica Lasso. She is joining us and she 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:15.160 is okay, but she survived. I believe it was fifteen 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:19.640 hours in a gondola where the temperatures dripped dipped to 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:24.280 the mid twenties. She had no cell phone, and she 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.559 has lived to tell us all about it. Monica, thank 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:28.480 you for being with us. How are you today? 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:29.520 Hi? 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:33.040 Amy and hid Monica? 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:38.199 Why did you not have a cell phone with you? 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:51.319 Micosas quel Yea. 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.080 She says she didn't have her cell phone because she 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.800 put her stuff in She was with a group of 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.280 people and she put all her stuff and backpack with 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:06.040 her friends, and so friends had her cell phone. 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:11.000 How did you know the gondola wasn't broken and that 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.920 it was actually uh, you had been forgotten up there. 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:20.840 I realized I am attacked in the night when I 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:26.040 lost my boys, boys from screaming so much and getting 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:26.839 not wrestled. 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:32.679 What was your biggest fear, Monica? Did you think that 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:35.320 no one would ever find you? Were you afraid that 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:37.440 some harm could come to you. 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.160 That one of her fingers or her feet were gonna freeze? 0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:00.160 Oh well, Monica, give us a sense of when you 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.960 got stuck and it stopped moving, you were dangling. How 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:04.840 high up were you? 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:15.480 Metros prol a. 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.040 Very way in. 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:23.960 Maes the Mili metro. 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:29.200 So she said the gondola itself was about six meters high, 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:35.120 but that the actual mountain was thousands of feet above 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:35.920 sea level. 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:40.520 And Monaga, you weren't up so high that you couldn't 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.440 see people on the ground. You could see people down 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:46.199 there moving around. Did you see a lot of people? 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:52.359 Yes, I saw a lot, a lot of truck worker. 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.240 N a round eight around. 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.200 Me, and you were and you what were you doing 0:13:58.240 --> 0:13:59.360 to try and get their attention? 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:06.439 Scream, scream a lot just that I could do, I 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:07.040 could eat. 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:12.760 You said you saw. It still drives It's fascinating to 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:17.719 think there were eight people at least that were that 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:22.040 close to you and they couldn't hear you. At what 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:25.440 point or at any point do you think you started 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:25.880 to panic? 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:36.320 No, I didn't feel panic, but just frustraight. I start 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.800 to feel frustraight, and. 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:41.240 I give up. 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:47.800 I come now, just I need to keep myself. 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:49.440 Alive. 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.200 Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it was so frustrating that 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:54.360 people were right there, they didn't know you were in 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.160 the gondola. You couldn't get them to hear you. So 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:01.040 I understand why you'd be frustrated. But were you nervous? 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.360 And just the fact that it was getting dark, You 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.120 didn't have a cell phone, you didn't have a light, 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:09.160 and it was getting cold. 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:12.240 When the night come. 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:17.400 I tried to still stay calm and as I want 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.760 to survive and I see my friend and family again. 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.560 Did you ever think about trying to escape from the gondola? 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:27.280 Open a door, open a window and jump. 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.840 Actually no, actually not really. 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:36.440 I I when I opened the window to a screen, 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.760 they call enter to the gondola, and I didn't want 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:44.520 to want exupposed to myself to the call anymore. 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:49.600 And I was so high that I was sure to 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:50.360 break a bone. 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.680 Did you sleep at all during those fifteen hours? 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:09.600 And nothing? They called us and let me rest. 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:16.360 I still try try because I my body, my body 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:21.080 heart a lot, maybe only for a minute, but my 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.600 body woke me up with. 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:30.760 Its trembling, trembling because you were cold? So how did 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:32.200 you go about staying warm? 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:40.320 Miss deer Commiss Manos, yes, fellow. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:45.880 She would rub her hands and fit together literally the 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:47.320 whole night to try to stay warm. 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.880 Wow, because I got really really cold, and I know 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:52.840 that you didn't. We said what you didn't have? But 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.360 you did have a watch? What did having that watch 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.400 on your wrist mean to you? 0:16:59.280 --> 0:16:59.520 See? 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:14.400 Look the finale on Tempo your finale art experiences, Savia. 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:29.280 She said that the watch helped her realize and remember 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.119 that this is only going to last so long and 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.440 and it will end, and so keeping track of time 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:37.879 helped her kind of get through it and know that 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:39.600 it would be over at some point. 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.680 And Monica, was it a comfort knowing that it would 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.160 be over in the morning. You were you were essentially 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.399 just waiting for them to get to work in the morning. 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:59.080 Thea Savia that you are. 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:18.240 Betro She says that yes, she knew that when you know, 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.320 daylight started to break, that there would be movement, there 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.600 would be workers. But in the back of her mind 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:25.679 she also doubted and said, wait a minute, what if 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:27.840 it's a holiday, what if people are off today? And that, 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.280 thank god, wasn't the end result. But she did have 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:31.960 a fear. 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.760 That's completely understandable. That would definitely have been a fear 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:40.560 of mine too. I have to ask you, Monica, fifteen 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:44.880 hours you had to have to go to the bathroom, 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:47.520 what did you do? How badly did you have to be? 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.960 Tell us how you handle that? In a gondola. 0:18:54.280 --> 0:19:04.240 Sola maia. 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:13.840 Ilse, she says that she just waited, She held it. 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:18.520 She did not want to be, you know, sitting in 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:20.639 urine the whole night. She said, if it had been 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:22.840 more than fifteen hours, it would have been a different story. 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:28.320 But then when you finally got out, is the first 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.439 thing you did was run. 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:30.960 To the bathroom. 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:35.919 No, the. 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:44.120 Policy ya the par America Come Again. 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:48.720 Is a show. 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:53.680 Important. 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:57.879 She says that she actually had to do police interviews 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:01.399 and paramedics checked her out, so she kind of forgot 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:03.400 about it and wasn't able to use the restauran until 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:04.959 all after all that happened. 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:08.800 Wow, that is impressive. I know that you knew in 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.600 the back of your head that you were going to 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:15.840 be okay eventually the gondola was going to start working 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:19.400 in the morning. But what about your friends and your boyfriend, 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:23.919 who had no idea where you were, if you were 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:26.840 alive or dead. What were they going through? 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:32.600 Okay, they were scared and saw the wars. 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:37.840 They notified the police that I was missing and made 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:41.560 up post about disappearance on Facebook. 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:45.399 They were really. 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:52.000 Very bad emotionally, they're. 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:51.520 So free a lot. 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:56.240 What was it like to reunite with your friends and 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:56.960 your boyfriend? 0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:14.639 Hi, wait, I leave your fame, we need to. 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:21.200 She said that it was a huge relief, a big 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:25.080 bundle of emotions and happiness just to be reunited. 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:26.719 At the end of the day, there was a lot 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:31.280 of happiness because Monica, is it fair to say your boyfriend, 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:35.000 your friends feared that you might be dead, that you 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:36.119 might not be alive. 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:38.800 Yes, you. 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:55.840 Pen on your bill and you onla. 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:08.680 She says that between the hours of six am and 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:12.360 seven am, when the whole night had gone by, her 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:15.280 boyfriend and her friends felt like she was dead. They 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:17.040 thought she was dead. They were like, the way she 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:20.000 could have survived all night on her own. And so 0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:22.520 when that call came in earlier, I mean a little 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:24.639