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Speaker 1: What's the biggest surprise to you. I know you've been here

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Speaker 1: with a couple of months now, but what's the different

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Speaker 1: surprise you.

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Speaker 2: Well, when you run your own show, it's all about

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Speaker 2: setting the foundation and things like that, and I think

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Speaker 2: I want to say surprise, but it's an ongoing every

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Speaker 2: day just ay installing the culture, getting the culture set,

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Speaker 2: doing the things right, becassist in your own process, and

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Speaker 2: uh it's fun. I'm enjoying that part of it.

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Speaker 1: Reading a school work and could have assert himself, would

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Speaker 1: have admittedly, Look, we've only been on here for a

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Speaker 1: couple of times, but I think we've seen him do

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Speaker 1: more stuff on special fans now he has bet a

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Speaker 1: result of that. Du So you're going to be.

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Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, walk us through that podcast. I mean schoolers.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's put a lot of a great film

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Speaker 2: out there. He's he's done a great job, and uh,

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Speaker 2: he's a guy that's gonna be a focal point for

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Speaker 2: us because of what he's done and what he's put

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Speaker 2: on film. He's proven that and he's a guy that

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna try to sign so many role

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Speaker 2: as I can and whatever he's good at wherever he's

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Speaker 2: best at I want to be able to put him

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Speaker 2: in that role.

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Speaker 1: Quicken the process for you when it comes to working

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Speaker 1: with big Chatty Bruss.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's been great. Those guys are true professionals.

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Speaker 2: I mean my whole group, Joe Cardona, Chad Bryce, even

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Speaker 2: Joey Sly. I mean, those guys are true professionals. They're

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Speaker 2: easy to work with. They listen, they're coachable. That's all

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Speaker 2: you can ask for. And they're helping me set the foundation.

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Speaker 3: That's a new coaching And how.

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Speaker 4: Has pardon how he helps you ask better Pross?

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Speaker 2: Oh, unbelievable. Yeah, he's a coach. He's a coach. I

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Speaker 2: mean I look at him for answers and questions and

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Speaker 2: he's been in the league ten years. I've been in

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Speaker 2: the league three years. So again, he knows more than

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Speaker 2: I do. And I truly believe that, and I take

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Speaker 2: I don't. I have no ego in that, So I

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Speaker 2: just I applaud that. And anytime I have a question

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Speaker 2: about what they've done in the past or things that

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Speaker 2: we can do that are gonna help the team, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna'm gonna lean on him heavily for that. Do

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Speaker 2: you have any relationship before. Yeah, I did. I've I've

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Speaker 2: known Tom for a couple of years now, and I've

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Speaker 2: got a lot of respect for what he's done, and

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Speaker 2: he's done a phenomenal job for us. I mean, just

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Speaker 2: to have that guy as well, it's like a Joe Cardona,

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Speaker 2: a guy who's been there, done that, been in the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowls, went at the highest level. And I respect

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Speaker 2: that out of him and he's and I've been using

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Speaker 2: that to utilize me at the same time. Maybe the

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Speaker 2: worst question with special teams are there drastically different philosophy

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Speaker 2: teams and coaches say, like there might be with the

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Speaker 2: West coach offense versus a many different Yeah, there are.

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Speaker 2: I mean it depends on the head coach a lot.

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Speaker 2: You know, what does a head coach want to kind

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Speaker 2: of instill from a philosophy standpoint? And then your personnel.

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Speaker 2: I think that depicts a lot of that. Can you

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Speaker 2: be aggressive you have bigger bodies? Can you be faster

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Speaker 2: if you have smaller bodies? And I think you just

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Speaker 2: got to play your strengths and you got to figure that.

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Speaker 2: And that's what OTA is about right now, Like every

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Speaker 2: day is like, all right, what are these guys good at,

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Speaker 2: so we can tailor to that and play special teams

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Speaker 2: with what we're really good at.

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Speaker 4: Brandon told us the other week, and he talked to

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Speaker 4: his brother about the new Kickoff.

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Speaker 2: Rover his brother players. Yeah, in the in the.

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Speaker 4: Accept have you reached out to anybody who was in

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Speaker 4: some advices?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some coaches I've I've reached out to. You know,

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Speaker 2: It's has been an ongoing process. I'm taking that day

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Speaker 2: by day. You know, today's a new day. We're installing

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Speaker 4: As you kind of dug into this rule, is there

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Speaker 4: something maybe that surprised you that you can share just

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Speaker 2: I would say yes, but because it's all so new,

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Speaker 2: I can't back it up because I don't have film

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Speaker 2: to back that up, right, So it's like all brand new.

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Speaker 2: So everything we do now now on till preseason, it's

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Speaker 2: that because you just don't have a foundation to go

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Speaker 2: Even the forty to thirty five that's just different. So

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Speaker 2: you just really don't have a ground to look at.

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Speaker 2: You just got to figure it out.

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Speaker 4: How much fun is it for you? It get to

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Speaker 4: experiment with something new like this.

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Speaker 2: It's fun, you know, it's your a lot of questions

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Speaker 2: like this is really work, but it's like, hey, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna make mistakes. You're gonna make mistakes, and it's okay,

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Speaker 2: Like learn mistakes and learn from it right now so

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Speaker 2: you can get better. So in week one you don't

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Speaker 2: you can take away a lot of mistakes and place wrong,

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Speaker 2: play fast.

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Speaker 1: Do you see a different makeup of your kickoff harborde

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Speaker 1: unit and physically.

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Speaker 2: Because of this, I think I'll have a better answer

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Speaker 2: after week one.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, like preseason, pre season, but

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Speaker 3: after you figure it out, I think there's gonna be

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Speaker 2: You got to develop it in this way. But that's

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Speaker 2: all about the new new way of doing things. You're

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Speaker 2: here and you see some undrafted players or maybe some

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Speaker 3: Be thrown out there in a certain roll.

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Speaker 4: Do you have to experiment for with different guys now?

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Speaker 2: Because yeah, you gotta use everybody. So we're using everybody.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's really no one that I look at like,

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Speaker 2: excited to work with Chad, you talk to you months ago.

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Speaker 2: Great professional like he's he's listened to, he's very open

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Speaker 2: So again, it's really really pleasing and it's satisfying as

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Speaker 2: that's that's wanted to develop and become a better player.

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Speaker 1: Were there any like technique changes then you obviously had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's taken day by day, Like every day we're

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Speaker 2: looking at a new thing, like, all right, is there

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Speaker 2: something you know we can tweak here there? If there's nothing,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing. Maybe it's more about talking him through his

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Speaker 2: like that. So every day's a new day and just

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Speaker 2: kind of figuring out. But again they're doing a great

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Speaker 2: day by day. Going back to your relationship with Tom

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Speaker 2: and other coaches like professional the special teams community, they're

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Speaker 2: such a small community being there too where offense.

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Speaker 3: His coach and would hold gets.

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Speaker 2: How would you describe what it's like just kind of

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Speaker 2: the ternity or with people and how open have they

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Speaker 2: been accessible and have they've been enforcing Ye? Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean the reason I'm here for now is because the

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Speaker 2: guys that have mentored me and opened the door to me,

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Speaker 2: and they have been closed minded. And there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of great coach in the NFL that I I true,

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Speaker 2: really truly admire and they're mentors to me, whether they

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Speaker 2: also open and open to information. Now there's some things

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Speaker 2: they won't say, and I get that, right, But at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, if I need help on anything,

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Speaker 2: they're willing to take a phone call and help me out.

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Speaker 2: If you go to the combine and head generally, oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: In the last three years, it's been it's been a

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Speaker 2: lot of fun doing that.

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Speaker 1: What's that like.

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Speaker 2: It's you know, it's more like just hanging out with

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Speaker 2: your friends and having a good time. It's not really

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Speaker 2: talking ball the time. It's really about just enjoying the

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Speaker 2: moment of being around each other because you're not going

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Speaker 2: to see each other for the next several months or

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Speaker 2: another year from now. All right, guys, appreciate you. I

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Speaker 2: have a good one. Christ you guys,