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Speaker 1: No Dunk's Crew statues, statues statues? Does Lebron become the

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Speaker 1: The interesting part of that first question, like the real

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I couldn't find one. I did some digging

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Speaker 4: And it's interesting, actually a very interesting question because there's

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Speaker 4: I thought sort of everyone kind of had one.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean every every basketball team had something

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Speaker 4: what I counted. I mean, there's a few different like

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Speaker 4: any right. They don't have now, but they have retired numbers.

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Speaker 4: Of course, they've retired Chris Bosh. I mentioned him because

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Speaker 4: But the Heat don't have any statues, so I'm not

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Speaker 5: Now Cleveland, he should get one.

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Speaker 4: Surely he's going to get one there, but his relationship

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Speaker 2: I think players generally are tied to one franchise. When

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Speaker 2: It's different than getting a jersey retired, which is rare

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Speaker 2: I don't think you duplicate somebody else's do.

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Speaker 1: You're saying specifically, if like the Calves say Okay, we're

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Speaker 2: The Calves, don't even have to say it. I think

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Speaker 6: I like branding it like that. Magic Johnson does have

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Speaker 6: two statues. He's got one at Michigan State as well.

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Speaker 6: There are people that have one for their professional accomplishments

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Speaker 3: That's happened quite a few times. I'm with you.

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Speaker 6: I think Cleveland is a guarantee. He's going to build

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Speaker 6: soon as they retire. Probably arms out the witness kind

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Speaker 6: Would you consider it a statue? However, if they built

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Speaker 6: I think they can do that. I mean, I think

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Speaker 2: There some MVPs four seasons though so.

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Speaker 6: Quick seasons of them, being one of the most famous

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Speaker 6: Retired Dan Marino's number, they retired Michael Jordan's number. They

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Speaker 6: like to honor legends. Lebron is a Heat legend, even

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Speaker 6: if he's not the Heat legend. I think he'll get

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Speaker 6: give him a bust inside. It's like a statue, but

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Speaker 6: not quite a statue, but it's still better than just

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, and that's those are the definitions you were

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just someone in the stream team telling me

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Speaker 4: George Best the football legend. The soccer icon has one

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Speaker 1: So that's what Matthew is a little.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Shack for example, has had his number

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Speaker 4: The reason I said that Bush wants the three of

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Speaker 1: maybe even two. Is that one more title?

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Speaker 6: Or I would accept an MVP award a League MVP Award,

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Speaker 2: Wi LA will give a statue to anybody.

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Speaker 6: So Lebron then, I mean Lebron and Wayne gretz Ski

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's hard to be a franchise guy for multiples,

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Speaker 2: All right, Let's get to some trade deadline talk here

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Speaker 2: eight days away. Hey guys, I've been a Bucks fan

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Speaker 2: for almost fifteen years, and with all this Miles Turner

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Speaker 2: both offensively and defensively. With Brook being injured and for

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Speaker 2: brook Lopez and picks. Big love from Northern Sweden. Thank

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Speaker 1: I almost picked Sweden when we did our Winter Olympics

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Speaker 1: Lucas obviously thinking about you nice specifically in northern Sweden.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I like it, man, I like this trade. Nobody's

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Speaker 6: Because I actually agree that the Bucks need another center. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: You know, Anthony Davis gets a ton of flack for

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Speaker 3: And you know, one.

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Speaker 6: Of the toughest, strongest guys in the league, but plan

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Speaker 6: this season. They've gotten up to thirteenth in defensive rebound rate,

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Speaker 6: That's one of their greatest defensive strength. So I like

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Speaker 6: the idea of trying to acquire another big guy. Miles

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Speaker 6: you can either be a number one guy on a

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Speaker 6: That being said, it's gonna be hard for the Bucks

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Speaker 6: to get anybody that's a big name because they traded

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, what would it be here in theory trying

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Speaker 1: if they're blowing it all up or rebuilding here, that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see what the Pacers would want from

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Speaker 2: I don't think for the Pacers they need brook Lopez back.

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Speaker 4: What do you think The Bucks went all in with

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Speaker 5: So this is the problem. Now.

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Speaker 4: If they don't get Brooked back, they need someone. They

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Speaker 4: but he wasn't quite the right fit. So if they

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Speaker 4: think they'd do it. In two seconds. It's just what what?

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Speaker 4: What's the reason for Indiana just saying here, have a

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Speaker 4: That's it, So it won't happen, But yes, it would

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like it's going to be a level

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Speaker 1: agree with that, all right. Another question here, Hey, no dunks.

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Speaker 1: My Chiefs pulled off an amazing comeback two weeks ago

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Speaker 1: That's a fun question, uh Lee. These type of questions.

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Speaker 4: I mean, so I looked at this from a team perspective,

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Speaker 4: didn't sort of specify fair, you know, the players.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say to one and get hammered

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great one.

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Speaker 2: It's a great one.

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Speaker 1: Got any others, Well, I'll tell you on a list.

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Speaker 2: fifth year in his in the league. He was already

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Speaker 2: a shelter himself. He wasn't playing heavy minutes and so

436
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Speaker 2: people were rooting for him. It looked like this guy

437
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Speaker 2: was a Hall of Famer. But all of a sudden,

438
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Speaker 2: the injuries took their tolls. So in this series against

439
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Speaker 2: the MAVs, he had one final moment, which is wild

440
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Speaker 2: to say in year five for the guy. But in

441
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Speaker 2: Game four, the Blazers were down eighteen points going into

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. It was sixty seven forty nine, a

443
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Speaker 2: real low scoring on maybe and then Brandon Roy came

444
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Speaker 2: out to play the ten minute mark. He hit a

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Speaker 2: layup and then a couple of minutes later he hit

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Speaker 2: another shot, and then a couple of minutes later he

447
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Speaker 2: hit another shot. He's playing all twelve minutes. He hit

448
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Speaker 2: another shot, and then he hit another shot. Then he

449
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Speaker 2: hit a three and one Sean Mary with one minute left.

450
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Speaker 2: Was still a tie game, still enough time for Brandon

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Speaker 2: Roy to make his mark. Then he hit that jumper

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Speaker 2: with thirty nine seconds left they won it. It was an

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Speaker 2: eighteen point fourth quarter for Brandon Roy. And that was

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Speaker 2: the career. Really. He retired the next season just after

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Speaker 2: five years, and uh he made a little bit of

456
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Speaker 2: a comeback with the t Wolves for a cup of coffee,

457
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Speaker 2: but five years looking great and that was his best

458
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Speaker 2: playoff performance. Just didn't have a lot of opportunities. Never

459
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Speaker 2: won a playoff series, which is surprising.

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask that, Yeah, did they ever nope,

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Speaker 1: go to the second round?

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Speaker 2: Even nope that with b roy not until Dame came

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Speaker 2: around and banged home that shot on Chandler Parsons. That's

464
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Speaker 2: it in your face.

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Speaker 1: Did you go with the team angle to this or

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Speaker 1: individual playoff performance or both?

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Speaker 3: I went with a player.

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Speaker 6: Kawhi Leonard, remember when he averaged twenty seven, eight and

469
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Speaker 6: five during the twenty seventeen playoffs his last playoff run

470
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Speaker 6: with the Spurs, fifty three percent from the field, forty

471
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Speaker 6: five from three. But the thing you really remember, he

472
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Speaker 6: stepped on Zaza Pashulia's foot and that was the end

473
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Speaker 6: of his run with the Spurs.

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Speaker 3: There and the Spurs were really good that.

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Speaker 6: Season, jo I think there were sixty one and twenty

476
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Speaker 6: one heading into the playoffs. Obviously the Warriors were the

477
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Speaker 6: Warriors but it felt like the Spurs had him on

478
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Speaker 6: the ropes. Kuhi was at twenty six points eleven for

479
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Speaker 6: eleven from the free throw line in that game, stepped

480
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Speaker 6: on his foot, never healed right. That was the end

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Speaker 6: in San Antonio for Kawhi Leonard. But man, he was

482
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Speaker 6: on a roll that season. That was the year it

483
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Speaker 6: was like between Harden and Westbrook and Kawi Leonard was

484
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Speaker 6: in the mix as well for MVP.

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Speaker 3: So that was a good.

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Speaker 1: One, awesome fun question there. Uh, Keaton, let's hear from

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Speaker 1: the stream team out there. I know you've got answers

488
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Speaker 1: to that, you know, forgotten playoff performances, either on the

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Speaker 1: individual side of things or the team that they came

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Speaker 1: up a little bit short and just overlooked.

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Speaker 2: Sorry didn't Trey adapting there and an adapted gin because

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Speaker 2: I saw you had written down the iverson two thousand

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Speaker 2: and one playoffs, but you know, dapt to gen right there.

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Speaker 2: But but yeah, Leek kind of commented. But still I

495
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Speaker 2: think it was different because I was waiting for you

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Speaker 2: to do it, and then I was gonna talk specifically

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Speaker 2: about the rapt sixer series in two thousand.

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Speaker 1: Act's interesting to me because I kept coming up with

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Speaker 1: like I thought answers to this, and I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: they're memorable. We actually talk about that series or that

501
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Speaker 1: play like Iverson twenty one.

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Speaker 6: All right, let me let me give so sure, I

503
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Speaker 6: got two good ones for you exactly. I think you

504
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Speaker 6: maybe forget how good these two players were in losing causes.

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Speaker 6: Iverson in two thousand and one went over forty points

506
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Speaker 6: per game six times heading to the finals, went over

507
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Speaker 6: fifty twice against the Raptors. In the finals, he averaged

508
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Speaker 6: thirty five and a half points a game, including forty

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Speaker 6: eight in Game one. Okay, you remember the step upcard,

510
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Speaker 6: you remember Iverson's incredible run and then the Lakers winning.

511
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Speaker 6: But man, he was really good. The other guy I

512
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Speaker 6: had Charles Barkley in the ninety three finals, twenty seven

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Speaker 6: per game, thirteen rebounds, five assists on forty eight percent

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Speaker 6: from the field. He had three big beefs in twenty

515
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Speaker 6: four playoff games that year. The finals are honestly ridiculous.

516
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Speaker 6: Forty two points thirteen rebounds in Game two, except Michael

517
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Speaker 6: Jordan had forty two, so the Bulls won Game four.

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Speaker 6: Barkley goes for thirty two to twelve and ten and

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Speaker 6: j Goes for fifty five. He also threw in a

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Speaker 6: twenty four and nineteen game and at twenty one and

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Speaker 6: seventeen game. You just ran into the wrong team to

522
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Speaker 6: play a cop Like the numbers are crazy for Barkley

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Speaker 6: in the finals, but wasn't even the best player in

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Speaker 6: the finals.

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Speaker 3: Wild stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's almost that's like it's like a silly argument when

527
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Speaker 1: people are like, well he never won a ring.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, never got a ring.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, but come on, like that's a that's

530
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Speaker 1: a ring against any other team almost almost in NBA history, almost.

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Speaker 5: If they could score.

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Speaker 4: I think they couldn't score in the last like two

533
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Speaker 4: minutes of that game as well. Game six, and Barkley's

534
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Speaker 4: talked about that because they talk about how the breakdown

535
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Speaker 4: defensively leads to the John Paxson three, But the plays

536
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Speaker 4: before that, the Sun just couldn't score. And that's really

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Speaker 4: I think the problem is, like sure they could have

538
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Speaker 4: just put it out of reach, but the Chicago hung

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Speaker 4: around and then like it was with the Jazz really

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Speaker 4: and in Game six and ninety eight, the same sort

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Speaker 4: of thing. Jazz had a chance, led couldn't score, Bulls

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Speaker 4: killed them all right.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Glad we got to those because are some

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Speaker 1: crazy numbers there. From me and CB, We're gonna take

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Speaker 1: our first break when we come back, CB, what would

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Speaker 1: come back. It'll be j E, tm TK and old

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Speaker 1: Ellie here talking more and answering your questions. So go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: So the stream teamers coming through with some great answers

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Speaker 1: to that last question about playoff performances that may be

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Speaker 1: forgotten because they didn't go on to win the championship.

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Speaker 1: One that really jumped out to me. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a good answer. Josh Sheesh two K the Nuggets two

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Speaker 1: thousand and nine playoff run, so they went to the

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Speaker 1: conference finals. Yeah, that's a good one. That's the season

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Speaker 1: they traded Iverson for Billups.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Phillips was on that team.

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Speaker 1: He was great in the playoffs. They took care of

558
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Speaker 1: business against the New Orleans Hornets, if you remember in

559
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Speaker 1: the Western Conference, I think they beat them in five.

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Speaker 1: They beat the Mavericks in five, so they were rolling

561
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Speaker 1: and then ran into the Lakers but put up a fight.

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Speaker 1: I mean that was there was a couple couple plays

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Speaker 1: in some of those games, like in that series that

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Speaker 1: it's like whoa, the Nuggets win that they might go

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Speaker 1: on to go to the finals, but instead they lost

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Speaker 1: in six games. But Melo played grat He averaged like

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Speaker 1: twenty eight points per game, and like I said.

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Speaker 4: Seem to remember Mellow actually played Kobe recently, right defensively

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Speaker 4: in that.

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Speaker 1: So I like that one O nine because one that

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Speaker 1: you don't like, we don't talk about all that much.

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Speaker 1: So good stuff. Okay, let's get to next batch of

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Speaker 1: questions here.

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Speaker 2: Hey, yo, inspired by Trey's disappointing ugly shirt? Why was

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Speaker 2: it disappointing.

576
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Speaker 1: Because it wasn't that wasn't ugly enough. All the shirts

577
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Speaker 1: he's worn this week, I mean could argue they're not

578
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Speaker 1: ugly on him, he just pulls them off.

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Speaker 3: Well, I thank you for saying that.

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Speaker 6: But the reality of the story is that I moved

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Speaker 6: like six months ago, so I went through my closet

582
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Speaker 6: and throughout.

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Speaker 1: The truly ugly shirts.

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Speaker 6: The ugly shirts I have now are just my ugliest shirts,

585
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Speaker 6: you know, Like, if you have one hundred shirts, I

586
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Speaker 6: don't know, these would be numbers ninety eight, ninety nine

587
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Speaker 6: and one. Never choosing him unless I'm forcing myself to choose.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 2: Back to Anthony's email, he writes, inspired by Trey's disappointing

590
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Speaker 2: ugly shirt. When was the time you were one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent sure a player would hinder a team only to

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Speaker 2: be proven wrong with their success. That's your pal from SoCal, Anthony,

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Speaker 2: and he adds a PS tray, you could literally rock.

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Speaker 3: Anything, So thanks Anthony, you can.

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Speaker 2: According to Anthony, my pal from Soca, an answer.

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Speaker 1: I mean not a good one. I thought this was

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Speaker 1: such a difficult question to answer, and I could tell

598
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Speaker 1: it was difficult because no one wanted to answer in

599
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Speaker 1: the classic factory, because yeah, you got to try and

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Speaker 1: think of like I mean, the way I was looking

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Speaker 1: at it, of course, like either through free agency or

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Speaker 1: a trade that I'm like, okay, that happened, and then

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Speaker 1: I questioned it right, I was like, oh, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: is that a good fit? Is that gonna work? And

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Speaker 1: then it ends up doing all right? And I'm sure

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Speaker 1: I've said this. I know there are instances out there,

607
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Speaker 1: but I guess one that maybe I wasn't that high

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Speaker 1: on at the time was not that long ago. Last

609
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Speaker 1: year at the trade deadline, Trey Kirby's Bulls trading some

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Speaker 1: juicy picks and a good young player in Wendell Carter

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Speaker 1: Junior of course, another junior and Ottoman auto porter to

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Speaker 1: the Magic four. It was Alfa Rukmino and then h Vucevic.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Vucevic is one of those players we

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Speaker 1: had debated a lot. Is he only getting his numbers?

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Speaker 1: Is he only sort of even getting All Star consideration

616
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Speaker 1: or at least making it there once or twice because

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Speaker 1: he's on a shitty Magic team and somebody's gotta fall

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Speaker 1: into a twenty ten. You know, it's just gonna happen

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Speaker 1: to somebody, and so you know, like, oh, and what's

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Speaker 1: he gonna really bring defensively, Like that's not really his forte.

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Speaker 1: And I remember Tray being high on it, and I

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Speaker 1: do specifically remember saying, Trey, you're you're only loving this

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Speaker 1: trade because it's your bulls And they're actually making a

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Speaker 1: move to try and get like the best player in

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Speaker 1: a deal, no doubt, And yeah, giving up a little

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Speaker 1: bit of the future. Maybe that that's fine because they

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Speaker 1: they see something you know, uh, you know, turning here

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Speaker 1: and obviously what they would then do in free agency

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Speaker 1: was huge and getting to Rosen and Crusoe. But I said,

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Speaker 1: you only like him because your team if if this

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Speaker 1: trade happened to twenty nine other teams, you would have

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Speaker 1: been like, oh, two first round picks for Vucevic, like,

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Speaker 1: get the hell out of here. Now, who knows if

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Speaker 1: that's true.

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Speaker 6: While I said at the time, no, I love it, Skeets,

636
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Speaker 6: because it's gonna show that the Bulls are serious about

637
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Speaker 6: winning and they're gonna be able to sign free agents

638
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Speaker 6: in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: That's and that's exactly what happened. So this is why

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Speaker 1: it's my answer. I just remember going, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Vujovi two first round picks, but it's because of what

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Speaker 1: they did after that. It's not like the Bulls season

643
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Speaker 1: turned around really last year.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, it didn't.

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Speaker 1: It certainly didn't. It didn't at all. But yeah, if

646
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Speaker 1: vuch was what you had to acquire in the trade

647
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Speaker 1: deadline deal to then get players like DeRozan and Caruso

648
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Speaker 1: and stuff like that to join your team, then of

649
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Speaker 1: course it's worked out pretty well for Scho. So that's

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Speaker 1: my answer. It was it's not that great, but you know,

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Speaker 1: it's tough.

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Speaker 4: This was a tough one, okay, Yeah, I mean the

653
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 4: part about thinking that guy would hinder the team doesn't

654
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 4: quite fit for this answer. But it's a guy I

655
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 4: didn't think was gonna do much. Back to two thousand

656
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 4: and five, two thousand and six, the Phoenix Suns, they

657
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 4: got Tim Thomas basically off the scrap heave, and I

658
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 4: thought Tim Thomas, like, what's he gonna provide for that team?

659
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: Okay?

660
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 5: He was actually huge, especially.

661
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 4: In the playoffs in twenty games at averaging fifty teen points,

662
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 4: six rebounds off the bench and shooting forty nine percent

663
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 4: from the field and forty four percent from three. And

664
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 4: also Game six against the Lakers hit that huge three

665
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 4: that basically stopped them from being eliminated because the Lakers

666
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 4: are up three to one. Sons got a back to

667
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 4: three to three and then blew a Mountain Game seven.

668
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: But was that Game six in La tim Thomas hit

669
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 4: that big three off of misshot I think from Steve

670
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 4: Nash came out to him. He sort of hesitated, someone

671
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 4: flew by him and he knocked it in. He was

672
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 4: really good for them that entire series.

673
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Speaker 1: So it's not like, yeah, they got they got Tim Thomas,

674
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: who like, all, no, that's that's kind of screw up everything.

675
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 4: I was just like, have him, yeah, because he I

676
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 4: think he hadn't played for the Bulls and I don't

677
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 4: know if they waived him or trade and whatever, but

678
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 4: it was like, yeah, sure, Tim Thomas turned out being

679
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: a fantastic pickup for them.

680
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: Too, Jimmy Jimmy Thomas and a lot of those offensive

681
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: rebounds too in that series where he just got extra

682
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: possessions playing along Sean Marion, not bad Tree, who you.

683
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 6: Got well, I actually had Avan Mobley and Larry Markinen.

684
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 6: I thought there's no way running three seven footers out

685
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 6: there is going to work for the Cabs good. But

686
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 6: they're apparently very good. Uh, And it's totally working. And

687
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 6: even Marknen has been able to stick around in the rotation,

688
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 6: which I'm honestly shocked by, but he's.

689
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: Been all right.

690
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 6: And and Mobley, I think the key is that Mobley

691
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 6: is so much better as a rookie than anybody could

692
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 6: have expected.

693
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: Well, like I.

694
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 6: Thought for me, I was like, Jared Jackson Junior will

695
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 6: be what Evan Mobley is when Evan Mobley when Jared

696
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 6: Jackson Junior was a rookie, And maybe someday Evan Mobley

697
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 6: can get to Jared Jackson Junior's level. And now it

698
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 6: feels like it's completely flipped, but I saw a great

699
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 6: answer in the stream team that I think is a

700
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 6: great one when Chris Paul joined the Rockets and everybody's like,

701
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 6: Chris Paul and.

702
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: James Harden, did that ever work? And then they won

703
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 3: sixty five games?

704
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, one hamstring away from gown to the finals.

705
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: I think quite possibly, that's a lot of games they won.

706
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: That's a lot of games.

707
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: And just to go back, like to the Bulls, the DeRozan,

708
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: you know, acquisition during a free agency, A lot of

709
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: people question that. I can't remember us being like, you know,

710
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: you were very excited. I don't think the rest of

711
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: us even were like that'll never work, you know. I

712
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: guess there was concerns, like defensively, it's like especially you're

713
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: adding him to Vucevic. But some people were like going

714
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,479
Speaker 1: crazy about that signing. What you're giving him? How much money?

715
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: And what's he going to do for this team? But

716
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: we weren't doing that.

717
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 6: Uh, Sir Rosen was the perfect trade for us because

718
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 6: we watched a lot of his Toronto career obviously, and

719
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 6: then actually kept tabs in San Antonio and I don't

720
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 6: think a lot of people did. But yeah, that has

721
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 6: certainly turned out well for the Bulls, though, I will

722
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 6: say the concerns everybody had that they were going to

723
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 6: be incredible on offense and can't stop anybody on defense,

724
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 6: that's what they.

725
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: Are right now.

726
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 6: It's just because their best defenders are out. But like

727
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 6: the concerns you have were like, oh, the offense is

728
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 6: going to slow down in the fourth quarter. They're just

729
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 6: gonna go one on one all the time. That's what

730
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 6: they do. And then they don't play defense. And then

731
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 6: I don't know if you've noticed this, but Vouch he

732
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 6: hasn't turned on the defense since he's been on Chicago. So, yeah,

733
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 6: January people were right about the Bulls, But the other

734
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 6: three months, see this.

735
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 5: Guy in the stands is screaming at Vucevic one day,

736
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 5: just like do stop.

737
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 4: It was one of those viral videos do anything.

738
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 6: I'm glad he's a bull cause we're returning to the

739
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 6: hardwood tonight. The pickup run is back. I don't want

740
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 6: to get hurt, so I'm playing boot style, no defense,

741
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 6: you know, jumping, no touching.

742
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 3: Others stay back.

743
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: It's the gym at least for the first couple of weeks,

744
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: only an hour rental. Maybe that's a good thing. Yeah right, yeah, okay,

745
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: get your legs warm. Be careful out there though.

746
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: Hope somebody's sweeping you know, that's when the slippies happened. Yeah,

747
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: somebody's gonna get out there and sweep that dust.

748
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: Did you have an answer?

749
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: No, I'm positive when it comes to every trade. Don't

750
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: listen to me when it comes to trades. I think

751
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: both teams win every trade. Yeah, honestly it was. It

752
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: was hard for me to come up with one where

753
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: I was down and then it came back. I mean,

754
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: I'm I was not excited about Hassan Whiteside going to Utah.

755
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: That's worked out, Andre Drummon going to Philly sort of

756
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: same thing. I mean those should be low expectations, low

757
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: bars because their minimum type guys, but they have exceeded

758
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: expectations greatly.

759
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: Next question here, I think it's me right, yeah, hey,

760
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: no dunks. Well, heading to work this morning, I saw

761
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: Chevy Tracks.

762
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 5: May have been me.

763
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: What is something you only know about because of a podcast?

764
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: Please keep the Clippers sign off clip that's from Stella

765
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas. So yeah, Stella obviously talking about me.

766
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: Chevy Tracks. PJ. Washington is my comparison to the Chevy

767
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: Tracks comes up a lot here on the show.

768
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 5: Not a not it's not not I Chevy tracks.

769
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 1: Yeah it should be Chevy Tracks talk to me. But yeah,

770
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: I guess Stella, they only know because of the podcast.

771
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: So you know what? What else is something maybe only

772
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: you're aware of because of the show we do or

773
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: another podcast.

774
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: Another Yeah, I was gonna go with another podcast, and

775
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: it's specifically a saying from another podcast, So Lee, play

776
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: along with me here exactly. Tell me something that you

777
00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 2: eat that I probably wouldn't like, like anything, a.

778
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 5: Vegan sausages.

779
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: I don't want a yuckier yum. But that sounds disgusting.

780
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: What is that from?

781
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 2: It's just a saying?

782
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: But from what podcast?

783
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: Well, Chris Hayes said it. It's not like it's not

784
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: like a segment or anything. He just said it, So

785
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: I don't know it was It was about n f TS.

786
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: It was a podcast on n f T s and

787
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess he was talking about in

788
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: general about people's desire to have n f T s

789
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 2: and so he said, I don't want a yuckier yum.

790
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: It's good. You've never heard Matt Austin say that.

791
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 3: No, that's Matt Austin saying as well.

792
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: I guess I don't listen to him a lot.

793
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: Man, I got yucks.

794
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 6: Everybody's yung that ye.

795
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: But so so break it down for me. I don't

796
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: want to yuck your yum. That's like I don't want

797
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 1: to burst your bubble.

798
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, more like like you like, if you're like I'm

799
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 6: training for a marathon, I'm like, I could train for

800
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 6: a marathon in six weeks.

801
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: I think it's done.

802
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,959
Speaker 6: When people talk about running, I'm yucking you're yum because

803
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 6: you love talking about running.

804
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, interesting.

805
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah anything you're one person is high on and the

806
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: other person just you know.

807
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 6: The next podcast, I can say, wait, how would I

808
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 6: say it that? In that case, I don't want to

809
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 6: yuck your yum. But the raptors are good, ah right, right.

810
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: Right, the raptors are better than bulls. Yeah, we're learning

811
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: yuck you're yum.

812
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: It's like's two levels I've found out about this. I

813
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: found out what yuck your yum through our podcast? Right

814
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: way of another part, Okay, do you have a you know,

815
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: an answer to this one?

816
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

817
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 4: Well I do, actually, Yeah, when I came back from

818
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 4: Calgary just recently. There was no inflight entertainment on the plane.

819
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 4: I didn't know that until we were boarding and was

820
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 4: sitting in our seats. Right, No, USA Today, couldn't do

821
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 4: the cross word. I'd finished Chris Herring's book. I was like,

822
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 4: oh my god, what am I going to do now?

823
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: For four and a half hours, opened up the podcast

824
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 4: that and this one popped up from Conan O'Brien and

825
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 4: Quentin Tarantino did a podcast together. Yeah, Quentin, Conan does it,

826
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 4: but Quentin joined him. Quentin and great podcast. Really difficult.

827
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 5: I don't know.

828
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe you guys are going to listen to it,

829
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 4: particularly JD. At times I'm like, I don't know which

830
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: one's talking right now. They sound exactly the same, you know,

831
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 4: high energy guys, you know, similar sort of cadence in

832
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 4: the way that they speak. Anyway, I found out about that.

833
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 4: You know Mad Magazine, right, yea, no longer they no

834
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 4: longer issue it.

835
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, GDS, So I think tuck about that.

836
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, the last issue ever created was designed by Quentin Tarantino.

837
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 5: There you go.

838
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

839
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 5: I know it was crazy.

840
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: It was crazy.

841
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 4: I mean Mad Magazine probably a lot of people in

842
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 4: the stream. Again, I've never even heard of that magazine.

843
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 4: It was huge in the eighties and nineties, you know,

844
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 4: making parodies out of current movies and things like that,

845
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 4: and so Quentin Tarantino, of course, a big movie director.

846
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 4: I guess I can't remember exactly how we got to

847
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 4: that point, but then I was like, all right, and

848
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 4: I googled it and checked it. It's true, great podcast, Ben,

849
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 4: and they are in twenty minutes a couple of just

850
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 4: a couple.

851
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 5: Of just dudes being dudes.

852
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: Better than that.

853
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 6: Okay, I don't want to yuck you're young, but I

854
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 6: preferred Cracked magazine.

855
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: It's okay, now I understand it.

856
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 6: There we go.

857
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me doing a lot of young yuckin'.

858
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: It's sort of like you're yeah, you're almost one upping

859
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: the person a little bit. No, just like, okay, almost

860
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: like one downing.

861
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 5: For me.

862
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 6: It's anything about cricket, I've learned that, yeah, answer my answer. Yeah,

863
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 6: like test cricket.

864
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 3: I know that's a thing.

865
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 6: I know what a six is when you jacket out

866
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 6: of the park. Yeah, there are different formats. One of

867
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 6: my favorite things I learned was about a baggie cap. Yeah,

868
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 6: that's a cricket specialty. Yeah, you had that awesome uh,

869
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 6: you had that awesome cricket music, you had that awesome

870
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 6: baggy cap got me looking for the bulls. One on

871
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 6: one exists, but yeah, what's the exact same?

872
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,439
Speaker 3: A lot more warn That looks like it's been worn

873
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: A lot.

874
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 6: Favorite thing I've learned though a variety of cricketer names.

875
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: Sash and ten.

876
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 6: Duker, yes, Shane Waughan, yes.

877
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 7: Curly Ambrose, let mean Curtly Ambrose, Mark waugh Yes, Alan Border, Yeah.

878
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 6: I feel like Warny had a brother he did, No,

879
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 6: had a brother tween? Yeah, Tony No, Steve, Steve perchance.

880
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: That's all my cricketer name is.

881
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 4: I'm so glad you brought that up because today is

882
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 4: the anniversary of Alan Border right against the West Indies

883
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 4: in nineteen eighty four. They're playing a day nighter in

884
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 4: the finals, right, best of three, and Alan Bord Australia

885
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 4: in trouble. Early on, Captain Aller Border comes out and

886
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 4: the West Indies in the eighties were really intimidating. They

887
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 4: had all these fast ballers, the big powerful guys. Early on,

888
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 4: Alan Border gets one smacks him right.

889
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 5: In the ribs. Yeah.

890
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 4: Good, have broken a trip. He is chewing on his

891
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 4: helmet strap for the entire innings. Goes Out makes one

892
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty seven. Just the gutsiest performance from the captain.

893
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 4: Incredible innings, his greatest One day game ever. And I

894
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 4: know that because I was sick from school. Mum had

895
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 4: to come and pick me up. I was lying on

896
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 4: the cast just watching the cricket all afternoon. It was incredible.

897
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 4: So a sicky ab Goes gets add twenty seven Australia

898
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 4: win the first One Day Final.

899
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 5: It was great.

900
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: That's my answer as well. Cricket for sure.

901
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: All right, Moving on to another one here. When we

902
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 2: talk about disappointing players, we always tend to pick the

903
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 2: star players that are underperforming. How about role players who

904
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: are some of the role players that you think are

905
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: underperforming this year or players that you expected to have

906
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 2: a good slash breakout season but they didn't. Mine is

907
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: Terrence Man. That's a good one. After that performance in

908
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: the playoffs last year and with Kuhi being out, I

909
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: really thought Man would have a breakout season and possibly

910
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: win Most Improved Player. I even drafted him high on

911
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 2: my fantasy team. Sorry about that. RJ and Perth maybe

912
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: we had played a part in that too, because we

913
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: talked a lot about Terrence Man in our season previews,

914
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: thinking that he would definitely chip in for that reason,

915
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: QUI out he's got to play lots of minutes. But

916
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 2: even though they went to the conference final, I had

917
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 2: that great little run, Terrence Man has not been amazing skets.

918
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: Do you have an answer for this one?

919
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got a couple. I'll start with Jordan Clarkson.

920
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: He's a role player. Yeah, I know, he won six

921
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: Man of the Year, but very disappointing this season, especially

922
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: after what he did last year. I think that's the

923
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: glaring part of this. He just can't shoot. I mean,

924
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: his whole role on a team is to like come in,

925
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: fire away and score man, and he's not doing a

926
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: great job at that. And especially this year with all

927
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: the injuries to the Jazz, Like you think, like more minutes,

928
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: maybe take on a little bit even more of a

929
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: leadership role and like sort of pull out a couple

930
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: of these games. But that's not happening. He's he's shooting

931
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: forty percent on a lot of shots, Like he gets

932
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: fourteen to fifteen shots a game, thirty two percent from

933
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: three so I had him on my list. Another guy

934
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: that maybe I wasn't as high on, or I don't

935
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: even think we were as high on as some people

936
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: out there, and it's because he's a Lakers player. Tayl

937
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: and Horton Tucker good one.

938
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: Wow.

939
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: I mean, if you listen to Lakers fans, they were

940
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: convinced this guy was gonna be like a ten time

941
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: All Star, and ooh, it's real bad for him. He's

942
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: averaging under ten points per game, you know again, shooting

943
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: forty percent from the floor twenty five percent from three.

944
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: So I have him on my list. And then just

945
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: one more. This guy starts a majority of his games

946
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: only a second year player, so there's a ton of

947
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: time for him to turn it around. And Tylon Horton Tucker,

948
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 1: I should say he's very young too, but Killian Hayes

949
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: in his second year here. I like what I've been

950
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: seeing in games I watch with the Pistons. He's not

951
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: bad defensively, like he goes at it on that end.

952
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: He's pretty good wing defender, especially for his age. But

953
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: just like I mean, he's shooting thirty four point eight

954
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 1: percent from the field and then twenty eight percent from three.

955
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: On obviously not a ton of attempts, but yeah, six

956
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: and four from a guy that you drafted very high.

957
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: He's only twenty. I get it. I'm not saying, you know,

958
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: get him out of here and send him to Australia

959
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: or something, but.

960
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 5: I just expect. I just.

961
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 1: Expected at a little bit more in the second year,

962
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: you know, on a team that is not expected to

963
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: win a ton of games, and now you've got some

964
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: more talent around you and Kate and stuff like that.

965
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: But those are my three guys, in no particular order, Clarkson, Horton, Tucker,

966
00:43:59,040 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: and Killian Hayes.

967
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

968
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe if you recalibrate your expectations of Killy and

969
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: Hayes now that they have a number one guy in

970
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: Kid and he's just an off the ball player, but

971
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: he's got to be able to shoot him.

972
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: He got to score in this league, like you. I mean,

973
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: it's almost like you either have to be the most

974
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: elite defender to stay on the floor if you can't score,

975
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: or you got to give them something and he might

976
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 1: turn into a totally normal, decent shooter. But after whatever,

977
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: sixty five games in the NBA so far over two years,

978
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, if he's going to be an offensive threat,

979
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: we'll see.

980
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 5: I hope I'm wrong.

981
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: I like him. I think it looks cool, too.

982
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: Cool. Look, yeah, it's just got.

983
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: A unique look name.

984
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: Great name, yeah, international, same with Tail and Horton Tucker

985
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: THHT great name yeah cool. Look I think so if

986
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: think about it, it wasn't It wasn't even a year

987
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: ago where they could have potentially, the rumor has it

988
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: they could have traded for Kyle Lowry if they were able,

989
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: if they if they allowed THHD to go, then Lowry's

990
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: their point guard probably today, and Russell Westbrook doesn't get

991
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: traded for all that big bag of chips, and they

992
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: still have you know, KCP. Do they still have Caruso?

993
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: Probably he costs Lowry costs twelve million dollars less than

994
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook. Does they can keep Caruso. Yeah, maybe a

995
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: little overvalue there. I mean, yeah, he's obviously to start

996
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 2: this season.

997
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: I forget. He feels older to me. He feels a

998
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 1: guy that came into the league just at a at

999
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: an older age. Yeah, he's an Illinois boy, right, but

1000
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: he's only twenty one and it's only his third year, and.

1001
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 2: He looks older. Than twenty one. Yeah, right, he does,

1002
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 2: old man.

1003
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 1: And but like is I don't know, is he gonna

1004
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: make an All Star team like in his career?

1005
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 5: I mean no, but.

1006
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 4: From what we've seen so I thought Andrew Wiggins was

1007
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 4: definitely a night up until this season. So you know,

1008
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 4: things can happen things.

1009
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 1: Are you going to always use that now for any guy?

1010
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 5: I mean saidy're looking at wigans Man.

1011
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: He was scoring twenty for it per game though, THHD.

1012
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 5: Isn't that No, it's twenty four a game.

1013
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: Wiggins as high with the Wolves. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

1014
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: he's nineteen points whatever.

1015
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: Any other you know, disappointing role players, because we do

1016
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: talk about the stars that usually disappoint But I like

1017
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: this little twist to this.

1018
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 4: While the guy who's got a big bag in the

1019
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 4: off season, Duncan Robinson got the five year, ninety million

1020
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 4: dollar contract extension.

1021
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, not having a good.

1022
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: Season, but he has had a pretty damn good month.

1023
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 4: Well yeah, he's hot or cold, there's no in between

1024
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 4: with him. He's had ten games, I believe, of twenty

1025
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 4: points or more. So look at me, listen, tell me

1026
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 4: how it is Vincent, but he's taking exactly the same

1027
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 4: amount of shots as he did last season, but he's

1028
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 4: down four percent from the field and four percent from

1029
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 4: three point range. And I sort of said this to

1030
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 4: you before last night. I think he hit his first

1031
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 4: shot and that was it that he gave. Now he's

1032
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 4: a beautiful shot, incredible mechanics, but it's just not falling

1033
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 4: for him right now. So Heat gave him that big money.

1034
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 4: They're going to expect him to live up to that

1035
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 4: because they're pretty much tapped out as far as their

1036
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 4: contracts are.

1037
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: Don't you dare compare him to Davisburg times.

1038
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 4: No, Yeah, but listen, in the bubble, he was really

1039
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 4: good for them, really important, and so I think he

1040
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 4: earned that big bag. He might give some of that

1041
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 4: bag back.

1042
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 3: Give me that big bag back.

1043
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm just laughing at how many times you like to seem.

1044
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 5: I love saying it.

1045
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: That's a great world.

1046
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he doesn't have much in his bag other

1047
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 4: than the three point shots.

1048
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 5: So down.

1049
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 4: His minutes are down to twenty seven eighth game this year,

1050
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 4: down from thirty one last season. So I think that's

1051
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 4: probably a bit of it. I think Sponster's maybe like

1052
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 4: he's not quite giving it to.

1053
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: Us, and Sponser's like well, we got a bunch of

1054
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: We've got five other guys the casual fans never heard of,

1055
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: but yeah, they might give us.

1056
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 4: And they're keeping Tyler hero coming off the bench for now.

1057
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 4: Next season, I would say Tyler's almost a certain starter

1058
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 4: and Duncan might be the guy coming off the bench.

1059
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: Stopping to watch. Okay, so he's got Duncan RUMs and

1060
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: disappointing right now. So far he's had at least had

1061
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: a couple of good weeks here, yeah, compared to started games? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1062
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: I took it from a good month to a couple

1063
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: of good weeks. He won't even give me that little

1064
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: good games?

1065
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 2: What about a couple of good podcasts? Maybe the problem

1066
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 2: is he started his own podcast?

1067
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: Oh distracted?

1068
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 2: Eh? Yeah? Too many jobs out there?

1069
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, there's a reason why I don't play in

1070
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: the NBA.

1071
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: Get too many podcasting?

1072
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 6: What do you have, Trey, I'll call me Vincent because

1073
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 6: I'm gonna van go off here, Clint Capella, that's Clinton,

1074
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 6: step your game up, Clint. Oh, I feel like Clint Capella,

1075
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 6: like nobody cares. The guy led the league in rebounding

1076
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 6: last season. Guess what, it's down two rebounds doesn't seem

1077
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 6: like much. His field goal percentage fifty nine percent last year,

1078
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 6: fifty eight percent this year.

1079
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: Who cares?

1080
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 6: But you don't feel Clint Capella the way you did

1081
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 6: last year when the Hawks went on their run, especially

1082
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 6: into the playoffs. He was great as a role guy.

1083
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 6: He was great as a rim protector, and this year

1084
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 6: he just seems to have taken the tiniest step backwards

1085
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 6: and the Hawks didn't have a ton of room to

1086
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Speaker 6: step backwards defensively. Now that a Congu is healthy and

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00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 6: has been playing for the past month, he's still Clint

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00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 6: Capella is still going to get the starts. But I

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00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 6: feel like you're going to stick with the Conglu down

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00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 6: the stretch of things because he's just more switchy, and

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00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 6: he's just a little bit quicker. He's got those strong

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00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 6: legs and a little bit more of a future since

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00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 6: he's a younger player. So Capella's diminished returns this year,

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Speaker 6: I think we're a huge part of the reason the

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00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 6: Hawk struggled in the first half of the season.

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Speaker 5: Love it.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any additions here?

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Speaker 2: List? No, Terrence Man was my man man?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's hear from the stream team. Another perfect question.

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Speaker 1: To ask all of you watching or listening, you can

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00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: let us know live right now in the YouTube comments

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00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: or tweet at us at No Dunk Stink. Role players.

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00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: That's a specific part here, role players who have disappointed

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00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: you so far this season. When we come back, we'll

1105
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: wrap up what you're laughing at the way I said you. Yeah,

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00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: I like to talk to them like they're right. You're

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00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: in the classic factory, you know, really connect with you

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Speaker 1: out there.

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Speaker 2: You leave your comment below you Hey, you Yeah, you

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00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: leave a comment.

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00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: We'd appreciate it. We'll be right back after this break.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're still stepping on the beach. A few

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00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: more questions to get to keep sending him in No

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00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: Dunks at the Athletic dot Com. Considering on the surface

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00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: that the Hawks are much improved without Cam Reddish, is

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Speaker 1: there any other team who you think could improve by subtraction?

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00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: That's from U by way of Twitter. Actually tweet at

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Speaker 1: us at No Dunk Sink. That's from at so Cal

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00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: Underscore Sully. That's not our our pal from SoCal though.

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Speaker 1: This is we got a couple of so Cow listeners.

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00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: Is great, Okay, so Sully wants to know another team

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00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: that you think could improve by subtraction, really by trading

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00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: a player getting.

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Speaker 3: I actually got two for you.

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Speaker 6: Both of them are the third guy around a notable

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Speaker 6: duo Marcus Smart on the Boston Celtics and use of

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Speaker 6: Nurkic on the Porland Trailblazers. Now, the Blazers ship is

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00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 6: kind of already sailed here. Lillard is likely out for

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00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 6: the season. Maybe he'll come back if they're trying to

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00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 6: make a run at the play in at the end.

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00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 6: Nurkic's contract is over at the end of this season.

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Speaker 6: He's on a twelve million dollar deal. Definitely feels like

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00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 6: a player who could be traded at the deadline if

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00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 6: they're looking to acquire something for an expiring contract.

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00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 3: And Nurkic will.

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Speaker 6: Probably help a lot of teams that need some help

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00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 6: as a big guy, Like maybe maybe he's more gettable

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00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 6: than Miles Turner for the Bucks. I don't know, Bowles

1139
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 6: could use them, who knows, But that's a guy you

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00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 6: could get and I think that you know the Blazers.

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00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 6: Nurkic is good when he's good, and when he's hurt

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00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 6: or when he's struggling, like he looks really bad and

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00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 6: the team just looks really slow. So I think that

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00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 6: the Blazers just need a little change, obviously, and I

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00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 6: think that would be a good one for them to start.

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00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 6: Marcus Smart is kind of a tougher question. He's got

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00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 6: a long contract signed through twenty twenty six, but he

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00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 6: has been there around Tatum and Brown for a long time.

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Speaker 6: And just like Nurkic, like you kind of look at

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00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 6: the third guy a lot. The third guy gets scapegoated

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00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 6: all the time. It happened to Chris Bosh. It happens

1152
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 6: to me when I'm watching the Bulls, and Booch.

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00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 3: Is the only guy I want to get mad at.

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Speaker 6: You know, the third guy is a tough spot to be,

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00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 6: but it feels like they need somebody a little bit

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00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 6: more reliable as a point guard. And I know Marcus

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00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 6: Smart doesn't like being told he's not a point guard

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00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 6: because he's played point guard his whole life. But they

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00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 6: just need a little bit more of a caretaker in

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Speaker 6: that position. I would think, so Marcus Smart another guy

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Speaker 6: who would be helpful to other teams as well, and

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Speaker 6: he does help the Celtics when he's good.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, just like.

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Speaker 6: Nurkic, I think that once you keep trying the same

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00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 6: three guys, same three guys, same three guys. You want

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Speaker 6: to try something new eventually.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the problem was Smart is he helps him so

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00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: much defensively, like and the Celtics have started to turn

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00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: it around a little bit. I know there are a

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Speaker 1: couple of games about five hundred have played well the

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Speaker 1: last month or so, specially defensively, and Marcus Smart is

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Speaker 1: a huge part of that. But I hear you from

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Speaker 1: like the offensive side of things and like just a

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00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: just a floor general they could really use at times,

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Speaker 1: especially when they keep blowing big leads exactly right, big

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00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: lead And I like the Nurkic one anyone else?

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Speaker 4: No, I mean I was gonna actually go on Maccus

1178
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 4: Smott as well, because well only because yes, he is

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00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 4: very good, but he's their most valuable tradable asset. They're

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00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 4: not going to trade certainly Tatum, and I don't think

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00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 4: they trade Jalen Brown either.

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00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 5: I think they like both of those guys.

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00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 4: They're two really good, young All Star caliber players. They

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00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 4: probably miss out this season, at least one of them

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00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 4: does anyway, But that sort of makes Smart the expendable

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Speaker 4: one where it's like he's got value, He's young enough

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00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 4: his contract is okay, it's compared to NBA contracts are

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00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 4: out there in the league right now. So if the

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Speaker 4: Celtics want to improve, it's like take smart, We'll throw

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Speaker 4: in a draft pick and maybe they can get a

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00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 4: point guard in return, because I think that's probably their

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00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 4: biggest hole right now.

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Speaker 2: And my answer is a little bit ironic because Sokal

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00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 2: Sully mentions the Hawks a little addition based subtraction to

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Speaker 2: trading Camradish to the Knicks, who I think need to

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Speaker 2: subtract big time. And it's kind of similar in that

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00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 2: they have too many guys like the Hawks, too many

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00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: necks on the dance floor here, and they absolutely have

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Speaker 2: to reduce their wings. But it was their own doing

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Speaker 2: in the offseason. Gave Evan Fournier a monster deal, they

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00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 2: gave Alec Burks a big deal, and they've got guys

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00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 2: waiting in the wings like Quinton Grimes and like a

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00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: manual quickly, and I think everyone will be happier if

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00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 2: they just get some minutes. And unfortunately, I don't know

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00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 2: how you trade a guy like Evan Fournia, but to me,

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00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: he's the glaring one right here right now. First season

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Speaker 2: of his contract, that it would make a heck of

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00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 2: a lot more sense to go a little bit younger

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00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 2: because they need a switch up. And I didn't even

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00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 2: mention Cam Reddish getting into the rotation. So yeah, you

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00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 2: got Grimes waiting, you got Quickly waiting, you've got Reddish waiting,

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00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 2: and you've got somebody like, oh be top and waiting

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Speaker 2: in the wings. Yeah, more youth for sure.

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Speaker 1: It's fun to try and think, like, of all the rosters,

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00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: to try and find like another Cam Reddish or two

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Speaker 1: out there. And what I mean by that is like,

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00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 1: by all accounts, he was like, come on, I want

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00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: to be a star here in Atlanta, and they're like, no,

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00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: we have our star. We need you to play a role.

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00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: Let's try it out. And he's like okay, fine, But

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00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: then you know, he just gets out there and sort

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00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: of chucks away and they're like, let's get rid of

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00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: this guy. Sort of like a toxic sort of like

1224
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: dude to have around the squad, like the field good

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00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: vibes are not there with him. That's obviously happening on

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00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: other rosters. Does anyone come to mind where you could

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00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: like I don't know, or they maybe are upset with

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00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: their role on the like, is Buddy healed happy?

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Speaker 4: He's been like in tweets about him being traded for years.

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00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 4: I think all of those guys in Sacramento were trying

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00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 4: to play their way out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's tough.

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Speaker 4: I mean that Camradish knocks deal looks stranger and stranger

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00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 4: by the day. It doesn't seem either team was really

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00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 4: interested in other than just like you want to just trade.

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00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I don't think you can say that. From

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Speaker 1: the Hawks side of things, it's like they treated him

1238
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: because they're like, we don't want you around, I.

1239
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Speaker 4: Know, but they got the guy Kevin Knox is not playing.

1240
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 4: I know they've got a first in return as well,

1241
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 4: but that's okay. Sure, it doesn't really seem to have well.

1242
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Speaker 4: I guess the Hawks have gone on the on the windstream,

1243
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,720
Speaker 4: but I think it's because of Camp Reddish.

1244
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: I think they say it is.

1245
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1246
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 1: I know that's a very difficult question on the spot,

1247
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: they guess anyone else comes to mind that, Like the

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00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: Kings are probably all of them one out of.

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Speaker 6: There, but seeing a lot of Westbrook in the stream

1250
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 6: team hmmm addition by subtraction, Yeah, yeah, would you rather

1251
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 6: have Westbrook would you rather have nobody?

1252
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 2: That's a tough question, man, Yeah, you'd rather have Westbrook.

1253
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 2: If you're bankers, you don't trade trade down on talent

1254
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 2: because where where's that talent going to come from? You know,

1255
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 2: if you're trading Westbrook, you hope you're getting somebody back.

1256
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 2: So that would be a different roster. But yeah, Westbrook

1257
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 2: or what we have at point guard currently, who's going

1258
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 2: to take over Austin Reive is gonna jump in the

1259
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 2: point guard spot? Very Bradley, very Bradley. That would be

1260
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 2: a very risky Bradley move for sure, for sure. Myles Turner,

1261
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 2: I guess we just we mentioned them at the top

1262
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: of the show, but he was asking. He came out

1263
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 2: and told The Athletic and told Bob Kravitz eight, I

1264
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: need a new role. I don't know if it was Kravitz,

1265
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 2: Actually maybe it was an amic.

1266
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 1: Does he write for the Philly Voice.

1267
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,919
Speaker 2: It wasn't on the Athletic though. The Athletic dot com

1268
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: slash no dunks for your subscription. Moving on last question, Yeah, hey,

1269
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: no dunks. I've been waiting for something monumental to happen

1270
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: in my day to day life so I can use

1271
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: that for a beach step in question. Well, here it was.

1272
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 2: I was taking a shower and like most normal people do,

1273
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: I too was listening to the No Dunks Winter Olympics

1274
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: episode on my phone. I ended up getting water in

1275
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 2: my speaker and I could tell that the sound was

1276
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 2: now muffled and I may have damaged my iPhone, potentially

1277
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: making this one of my most expensive mistakes ever. I

1278
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 2: wonder what happened to this iPhone. Doesn't seem like it

1279
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 2: was a definitive broken but anyway, so here's my question,

1280
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: what would you consider one of your most expensive mistakes ever?

1281
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 2: That's from Hussein s in Chicago.

1282
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: Gotta be careful with the phone in the shower. That's

1283
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: what you got to buy a very cheap Bluetooth speaker

1284
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: for the shower, because I too love listening to podcasts

1285
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: while I'm getting ready and lathering it up, but lathering

1286
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: and listening, like you know, I got a shelf in

1287
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: my shower. Yeah, high shelves too, because there's some nice

1288
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: high windows where the sun comes through. I don't even

1289
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,439
Speaker 1: risk putting my phone on those shelves where the water

1290
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: is like almost no chance.

1291
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: iPhones the days are resistant. I can't believe that happened yourself.

1292
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: A very very cheap, waterproof bluetooth speaker.

1293
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 2: I think his phone is fine because he didn't even

1294
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: tell that.

1295
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 5: Because he did.

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00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 2: He said, I've been waiting for something monumental.

1297
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: And then it happened, and he started, and then he

1298
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: didn't even sell it.

1299
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 2: He's been waiting this long and he just said, I

1300
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 2: may have damaged my iPhone, potentially making this one one

1301
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 2: of my most expensive mistakes. I think he was just

1302
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: yearning to send in a question, and this is it.

1303
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: It was a good question. Yeah, yeah, I'll say my

1304
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 2: story again. You guys have heard it before. Twenty nineteen,

1305
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: the Rafts go to the NBA Championship. Saturday night. They're

1306
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: playing Game six at home to Milwaukee. My first opportunity

1307
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 2: to go Tuesday night, after they won Game four, Game

1308
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: six was guaranteed. So I booked a ticket to Buffalo

1309
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 2: because I didn't want to pay full price to Toronto.

1310
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 2: You know, I just find it hard. It's a flaw.

1311
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: It's a fatal flaw. I find it hard when a

1312
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 2: ticket's usually three four hundred bucks. When it was up

1313
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: to eleven, I just couldn't pull the trigger. So I

1314
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 2: bought one to Buffalo. Then my person who works at

1315
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 2: a flight at an airline told me that I could

1316
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: get a buddy passcott in my ears, So I canceled

1317
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 2: the ticket to Buffalo, and then I sat at the

1318
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: airport on Saturday trying to be someone's buddy. Didn't work out.

1319
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 2: I finally bought a ticket in the afternoon. I couldn't

1320
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 2: get on that flight. Whoa a a gong show. That

1321
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 2: was because I didn't go up and check in at

1322
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 2: the gate, because I was at the airport all day.

1323
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: Didn't think. I just didn't come to me to check in.

1324
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 2: So here we are. It was my most expensive mistake ever.

1325
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: Did it cost me money, No, it cost me. It

1326
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 2: cost me zero dollars. Really cost me ten hours at

1327
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 2: the airport and just a motion baggage.

1328
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: Really and you miss an awesome game game.

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01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 2: But then I look back and I think I'd probably

1330
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 2: be dead if I went. You know, it was just

1331
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 2: it was just a long day. Oh yeah, you would

1332
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 2: have died super high over It was super high. It

1333
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 2: was at all night. It was an all night er.

1334
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 2: I was already exhausted. Yeah, just I just had a

1335
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 2: child like minutes earlier. It wasn't minutes earlier. But anyway,

1336
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 2: I'd still be alive and I and I regret it

1337
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: to this day. I just should have gone to Buffalo,

1338
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 2: which would have been horrendous driving from Buffalo. It's not

1339
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:53,439
Speaker 2: a bad drive. Actually cool story. Anybody else, what would

1340
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: you consider one of your most expensive mistakes ever? League

1341
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 2: got one?

1342
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 4: Well, mine's actually the same in the sense it's not

1343
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 4: a financial era, it's a life error I made not

1344
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 4: going to the two thousand and six World Cup in Germany.

1345
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 4: Australia made it through to the second round. We should

1346
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 4: We should have beaten the champions Italy in the first

1347
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 4: knockout stage penalty Toddy knocks it in a bit of

1348
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 4: a tough call. Australia could have gone on and won

1349
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 4: the World Cup. They didn't, but they did come back

1350
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 4: and they beat Japan. They were down one zero, came

1351
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 4: back and beat them two to one. And then and

1352
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 4: then we made it through. We tied with Brazil in

1353
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 4: the second round in the second game, and then we

1354
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 4: beat Croatia in the third. I could have been there

1355
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 4: for it, and I was like, I'm going, I'm going,

1356
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 4: I'm going.

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01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 5: I just didn't go.

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01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 4: In the end, I can never go back now see

1359
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 4: Timmy Cahill banging a coupleouting, but we were.

1360
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 5: Down against Japan. The crowd was going wild.

1361
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: There was literally there's a bit of log day. I

1362
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: think I fell asleep.

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01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 5: Kangaroos climbing around.

1364
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 4: I was like, that could have been me, you know, yeah, he.

1365
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: Brought me back with Key Hill.

1366
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: Why didn't you go? I didn't say what this is?

1367
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 4: I know only about you said no to no see

1368
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,439
Speaker 4: because I was living with hot Dog a hot dog

1369
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 4: that was eight toes is also known as hot dog.

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01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 5: And well he polished off.

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01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 4: I think it was five hot dogs at the Blue

1372
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 4: Jays game one day in like half an hour.

1373
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: And then from that the guy with the toes.

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01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, eight toes and five dogs.

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01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 2: The ironic has four dogs.

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01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: It's like when you're going to like a barbecue and

1377
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: just like you've got the hot dogs, they only come

1378
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: and eat and the buns coming sick.

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01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he went, but he went.

1380
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 4: He went early like we couldn't for some reason, we

1381
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 4: couldn't coordinate our times, and he went, and then I

1382
01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 4: just didn't go, and I was like, I don't know,

1383
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 4: I'm so disappointed. I've got my I've got the double

1384
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 4: hands fee myself for that one, you know, like, why

1385
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 4: did you go?

1386
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 5: Man? What's wrong with you?

1387
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 4: But I think so. I think it was probably this.

1388
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 4: It was like if do I book a ticket for

1389
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 4: like a week and say to come back, or do

1390
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 4: I book it for like three weeks and hope Australia

1391
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 4: goes on and I think I saught? It was just like,

1392
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 4: all right, I'm just not going. They won't They probably

1393
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 4: won't get out of that group stage anyway, and they

1394
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 4: did well.

1395
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: How many hot dogs did hot dog eat at a

1396
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: soccer game?

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01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 5: At a soccer game?

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01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: What do you?

1399
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 5: I don't know.

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01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 2: I wasn't there with you.

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01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 5: A baseball game? Was the Blue Jays?

1402
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: No, that's not what I'm asking. Maybe I didn't fall asleep?

1403
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: What about were you just talking about that?

1404
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 5: You didn't go to the soccer?

1405
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: Hot dogs? Hot dog at the.

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01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 8: Soccer I don't know. I wasn't there with him. I

1407
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 8: didn't say, hey, how many dogs are you dropping out?

1408
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 8: That was like the hot that was the high water Bok.

1409
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 8: I was not getting more than five.

1410
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: I was taking crazy.

1411
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 2: Germany.

1412
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, Germany, he's probably not putting down five of those.

1413
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 5: They had big, a thicker rematch, good.

1414
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 2: You're the bread first tray.

1415
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: Do you have any expensive mistakes to take us home here? Yeah,

1416
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: he was saying.

1417
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 6: One time I washed my phone in a washing machine

1418
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 6: that was broke. Oh yeah, I even tried putting it

1419
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 6: in rice after I went through the full cycle. Yeah,

1420
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 6: if I throw it in rice here for twenty minutes,

1421
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 6: it should be fine.

1422
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 3: Didn't work.

1423
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 6: But I made a semi expensive mistake yesterday when I

1424
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 6: went to public Yeah, not the most expensive. But I

1425
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 6: went to Publics and I went to the deli counter

1426
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 6: and I ordered a full foot long sub and what

1427
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 6: I received was four foot longs and they were some

1428
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 6: thick bush We're talking, I don't know a four inch

1429
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 6: diameter on these subs.

1430
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what was happening.

1431
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 6: I had to ask her to repeat every word she

1432
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 6: was saying. She asked me to repeat every word I

1433
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 6: was saying. So when I ordered my four foot on subs,

1434
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 6: she turned around, She's like, all right, I gotta get

1435
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 6: the bread ready.

1436
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, huh, now, that's interesting.

1437
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 6: That's interesting you say that because I see a lot

1438
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 6: of loaves right here. She comes back, she sets four out.

1439
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 6: I'm like, huh, okay, I guess you're just getting ready

1440
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 6: for the next people. I was like, yeah, I'm Italian.

1441
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 6: Do mean Italian? Yeah? Yeah, I do.

1442
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 3: Like you saw her.

1443
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: Putting whatever you were saying on all four of the subs.

1444
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 6: My first, uh, the first time I knew something was

1445
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 6: wrong was when she got out the large Mayo slatherer.

1446
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,959
Speaker 3: She slathered one up. I was like, nice, that's a lot.

1447
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 6: That's a lot, and then she just kept doing I'm like, huh,

1448
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 6: I guess you must have an order and for somebody

1449
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 6: else she's prepping.

1450
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:57,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what I would.

1451
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 6: And when she's like you want regular bores had me

1452
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 6: and I said bores head please.

1453
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 3: She slept.

1454
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 6: I was like uhh, but I couldn't stop her. I

1455
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 6: was like, ah, you already got out to meats. Once

1456
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 6: you see the meats come out, that was the problem.

1457
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 6: I was like, you probably can't put those meats back.

1458
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 6: I know somebody will eat these over the course of days.

1459
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: Well, this is the crazy part to me, because I

1460
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: asked you you had it paid off sun so even

1461
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: because there's like this confusion, you know, everybody's got masks on.

1462
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: That's great. I'm sure she can't hear you. You can't hear her. Whatever,

1463
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: she makes four subs, you only wanted one sub. I

1464
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: can't believe you just didn't go, okay, well, I'm only

1465
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,919
Speaker 1: taking buying one of those, and.

1466
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 6: You're like, I could have said that. I certainly could

1467
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 6: have said that, but skeets. As soon as I saw

1468
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 6: her putting the four slabs of meat down, and then

1469
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 6: I turned around and like, slowly but surely, the line

1470
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 6: is like just getting bigger and bigger as one man

1471
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 6: is making four identical Oh.

1472
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: I was holding up the line big time. I was like,

1473
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: I just got to take these. I got four subs.

1474
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 3: Now, I don't know what I'm going to do, but

1475
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 3: it ended up working out okay.

1476
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 6: Those four subs fed two families of four two meals yesterday.

1477
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 6: I felt like Jesus a little bit with the loaves

1478
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 6: and the fish. Just a few loaves and fish, but

1479
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 6: he fed five thousand people. I felt the same with

1480
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 6: my four public I even message you guys from the place.

1481
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 6: I was like, disaster order at Publics'll like Italian.

1482
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 4: Ship had a great clip in the you in the

1483
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 4: in our slack channel hit of the two runnies who

1484
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 4: do a great skit about that.

1485
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 5: It's called the full candles.

1486
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 4: He says it, full candles are full candles, and they

1487
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 4: just go on and on and on about full candles

1488
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 4: and full candles.

1489
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 5: It's great.

1490
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 4: It's all that stuff that tried to say. You watch it,

1491
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 4: you can love it.

1492
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, because I'm not getting what you're saying right now.

1493
01:07:55,600 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 2: Yuck is yum, yuck is yum. Yeah, are you saying

1494
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 2: fall candles?

1495
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 4: That's what I was gonna say at four candles, four candles,

1496
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 4: folk candles.

1497
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: It sounds identic.

1498
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's great.

1499
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 2: You could have three ronnies, you could have.

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01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:26,759
Speaker 1: Ro Okay, let's call it there. That was hopefully another

1501
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: classic edition of Beach Step and it's been a while.

1502
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: We got to do this a little often. Oh my god,

1503
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: your questions are so good. Get youself on all these

1504
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: crazy tangents. Email them in No Dunks at the Athletic

1505
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 1: dot Com, Tweet them in at No Dunk, Think, lead

1506
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: them in the YouTube comments wherever you want. Get your

1507
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: cues to us here at No Dunks. We'll be back

1508
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 1: tomorrow Thursday morning at TENNYM Eastern Live to break down

1509
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: all of tonight's games. So we'll see you then, Clipper bros.

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01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 5: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

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01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:54,520
Speaker 5: love you guys awesome.

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01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and leave a comment below and

1513
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 2: tell us how many hot dogs you've eaten in one

1514
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 2: hitting one game, the most hot.

1515
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 5: Dogs you've ever eaten.

1516
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,520
Speaker 2: I wonder if Kobe Yashi's watching.

1517
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 8: Only a soccer gameer soccer hot dogs or back of.

1518
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 2: My Baseball counts, baseball counts, Joey Chestnut? Did you do it?

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01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 2: How many?

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01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 5: How many? How many.

1521
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 2: Joey Chestnuts eating the most in the world.

1522
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: When you go to a baseball game in late September,

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01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: do you call hot dogs fall candles?